Are There Already Enough Zeldas? | Spicy Take Salad
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How posted three days ago
I won't read this man's name and I will not save 10% off my first purchase by using the code "arlo", I will buy it full price, what will this blue puppet even gonna do
How the fuck was this comment posted 3 days ago?
Hey Arlo, what's with the egg thing on your laptop?
No
It’s okay to have wrong opinions everyone. That’s the whole point of this series. Just recognize your opinions are wrong if they don’t line up exactly as mine
no
Literally 1984
@@bogonelle love your example of a wrong opinion!! :)
What if my opinion is objectively better and I think you are wrong and stupid and dumb and wrong?
@@NovaMaster375 all of them
That Smash take wasn't spicy because it was exotic, it was just a hard truth.
Quite so!
Do people actually just watch the trailers and then go on to not care about the game? While not every character ticketed my fancy so to say, the gameplay and representation of the character has always been the thing I cared about the most and the cinematics only helped the hype around them.
I mean, I haven't owned a Nintendo home console since the GameCube and haven't seriously played one since N64 and even I like to watch the Smash animations. They're cool!
@@firstwaddledee9182 While there are several people who enjoy playing the character, it's undeniable that a lot of people see treat smash like "Banjo is is smash!? What no way? Now lets beg until Sora gets in, and once he gets in we go for Geno. And once he gets in we beg for Dante. And..."
in other words twitter
@@firstwaddledee9182 I think for a lot of people there is a difference between wanting a character in the game and actually enjoying a fighter's playstyle. Byleth was not a character that players were strongly interested in getting, but actually playing as Byleth was enjoyable. Banjo meanwhile was a beloved character with a playstyle that many view as being slow and cumbersome.
I thought that the Sephiroth trailer was a lot of fun to watch, but I didn't feel a strong reason to play him.
I love how Arlo basically said "if frontiers was as good as Odyssey I would agree"
hahaha
I mean he’s not wrong
@@rootbourne4454 oh absolutely, Love frontiers but u cannot compare
Well, even people who love Frontiers kinda have to admit it's got that Sonic curse of having something wrong with it, despite its highs. Great bosses, some innovative gameplay, fantastic music, and it can be pretty sometimes... But lacking in visual variety, story falls apart near the end, and they didn't even have the budget to create a proper final boss.
DLC has the chance to elevate it further, but even though the base game is good, Odyssey is a more complete and polished experience.
He said Odyssey has a lot of variety, which is... what game did he play???
When it comes to Zelda companions, I've always liked Tatl. She's basically Navi with attitude. She doesn't interject as often with that "Hey! Listen!" thing, but she basically just reminds the player of what their main goal is after travelling back in time. Unlike Navi, she has motivation. She starts off as your bully, but becomes a reluctant ally once separated from her brother. Like Navi, she'll give descriptions of creatures targeted, but she often has this attitude like, "What? You don't know what a Deku Scrub is, you big dumb idiot?" I love it.
It's weird to me how Majora's Mask gets all kinds of love but Tatl almost never comes up when discussing the companions. Tatl was pretty good, even if she can be summarized as "sassy Navi"
When it comes to Zelda companions, I personally prefer Midna from Twilight Princess.
@@knightofarkronia9968 "Daring today, aren't we?"
@@KingsBard Eh, I like what I like.
@@knightofarkronia9968 - It's been a long time since I've played Twilight Princess. I remember being super hyped about it. It was a Zelda returning to the more realistic style of the N64 games, with familiar races and locations from before the flood wiped the slate clean for Wind Waker. Despite that, I haven't returned to the game. Maybe it's the Wolf Link gameplay, or the way the bloom hurts my eyes.
Whatever the case, I remember Midna being...fine. I didn't hate her like I did Fi, so there's that. She had more personality than previous aiming reticle companions, but that's pretty much all I remember.
The sight of Arlo fanning himself after a horrible hot-take brings a weird joy that cannot be replicated
Um,, huh? 😄
Hey Arlo. As a request, can you announce when these spicy take salads are happening on a youtube community post? It would be really helpful for people that want to participate but don't actively use twitter.
Or could potentially join in if they don't use twitter at all.
Especially given the way Twitter's going these days
@@pobbityboppity1110 like Twitter is going anywhere, the brainrot runs deep
My fav part of these video is how respectful Arlo is, even if he doesn’t agree with the spicy opinion!
Shame that can't be said of his subs or followers. Say something ''-ve'' about Breath of the Wild; a whole hive of toxic bees come out of his TH-cam Button. 🙄😂
WRONGZO!!!!!!!!
I’m glad someone is giving Spirit Tracks Zelda some love. It’s nice having a companion that’s great, AND a Zelda that has so Much character and personality on her own and doesn’t need a transformation into another character to achieve it.
Not to mention she’s in it prominently and isn’t a borderline McGuffin
Spirit Tracks Zelda is definitely my favourite of all the adventuring companions in Zelda games. She's a great character with a good arc, her dynamic with Link is absolutely adorable (and people say Skyward Sword has the best romance between Link and Zelda; they're wrong: Spirit Tracks did it first and did it far better), and, in terms of gameplay, she's by far the most useful adventuring companion any Link has ever had.
Obviously the best iteration of Zelda for sure
@@matthewmuir8884 Skyward Sword's "relationship" stuff is gross imo
@@matthewmuir8884 That version of Zelda was FAR better than the bitchy Zelda we have in botw who is voiced by someone well into their 30's (She's supposed to be a teenager)
Sometimes you forget how good a ventriloquist Arlo is. The puppet work is so damn good
What's a puppet?
This is puppetry, not ventriloquism.
@@Novarcharesk You can't see him? He's standing right there in front of the greenscreen next to Arlo... wearing green. He's an amazing ventriloquist, you literally don't even notice him!
All "what do you mean Arlo is right there" jokes aside(seriously can we just have one discussion about the actual person Arlo without every goddamn comment being this same joke?) there is a video out there of Arlo's actual appearance and he did not look like what I expected at all.
@@JJAB91 What do you mean?
My spicy take is that twitter should not be the only place you get your spicy takes from.
Kinda hard to find a better cesspool of salts and villiany then on twitter
@@baileypalmer103 Gab. Parler. Truthsocial.
@@KruelAidMan dunno about Gab, but the other two are literally just Twitter for people whose politics were too spicy for actual Twitter. To my understanding, Truth Social even lifted the UI wholesale and painted it red.
@@KruelAidMan social media is worthless.
@@Rot8erConeX "spicy"
Now THERE's a spicy take
Whenever Arlo uses the green screen I always think how cursed it may look if they were to set the chroma to blue. Floating eyes and a mouth that appears and disappears (kinda like that one boss in Link's Awakening!)
I can never have enough Zelda games. I don’t think I’d ever get bored.
You and me, we're built different.
They are often enough so different that they barely saturate the market with what they are doing, imo.
@@Nelsathis Not to mention, they only release a new one every several years. Sure, there are a lot of Zelda games by now, but that's only because the series has been going since the 80s. Every new Zelda feels like an event.
@@Nelsathis Exactly! I don't understand this take. This is an opinion you should have about Pokemon, not Zelda.
@Purple Lover C I think it's because this is the first time we've...well, *had* a very significant amount of new Zelda releases on *one* console.
Before, they were split between home and handheld. So while we ended up getting one every 1-3 years, they were often vastly different and on completely different hardware.
I mean, the 3DS, which has perhaps the most behind the Switch, only ever got five across it's entire life, discounting VC and Backwards Compatibility. And one of those was Tri-Force Heroes, so does that really count?
Meanwhile, the Switch has BOTW, LAR, SSHD, COH, HWDE, HWAOC, and TOTK is coming in two months.
That's seven, not counting things like NSO.
But if you put the Wii U and 3DS libraries together, you get eight, which is much more in line with the Switch's lineup.
I don't think the *frequency* of releases has changed much, if at all, but it feels like there's more because they're all in one place.
Paper Mario is one of the few N64 games that has aged very gracefully
I very much agree.
That and Bigfoot Bootcamp
It's hard to ignore nostalgia but I still think Ogre Battle 64 holds up really well. It's one of the few N64 games I still go back to every couple of years.
@@googleuser3163 I don't think that's an N64 game.
I played it for the first time when it came out on switch online and loved it and 100% it as being my second paper Mario game. I grew up on super paper Mario and playing another paper Mario felt completely different but was just as fun if not better
Arlo I think you should give us one of your own hot takes per episode
"Odyssey iS t3h bE$t MariO gaMe!1"
VERY much love this idea
"Pikmin is the best Nintendo IP of all time"!
Asking if there’s already enough Zelda is like saying aren’t there already too many video games that exist?
And the answer is yes
@@trapez77 needs to be at least...thrice as many _Custom Robo_ games
@@KruelAidMan LOL yes
I always forget that this isn’t just a regular video games news channel and also a fantastic display of puppetry and character creation. Arlo is great!
In my teens I played countless hours of a program called Zelda Classic where people made Zelda games using the first game as a foundation. And I still want more. So, I feel I can say I think there's room for more.
I cannot begin to tell you how much time I sunk into Zelda Classic in my early 20s. I even bought a cheap Logitech controller for my PC for the best experience. "The End of Time", in particular, was my favorite custom quest.
It's a shame Nintendo won't do another 2D Zelda in the style of the original, where we have to explore to progress. ZC filled that void wonderfully. If I still had a desktop PC, I'd still be playing ZC about once a week.
I love Zelda Classic!! My dad and I sunk so many hours into that when I was growing up. I have so many good memories of making and playing levels with him. I poured a lot of time and effort over those years into my own level. It's so close to being finished, I really need to start it up again.
I get that gameplay wise, Fi helped you a bit too much but I still love the idea behind her. Plus she has a cool design, one of the best theme in the franchise, her ending scene is the only scene to ever make me cry in a Zelda game and I loved playing as her in Hyrule Warriors.
Really? That scene made me _happy_
...Okay there's no good spoiler tags or anything here, so if you're still in the middle of playing Skyward Sword and you come across this comment, don't click read more!
This part here is literally just nonsense to try and make sure the "click more" thing happens to hide all the spoilery bits below. Is this enough yet? I dunno. I guess I'll keep typing nonsense.
Yeah okay. So I was happy when Fi finally left. Sucked that it was the end of the game and I couldn't really enjoy it, but still glad to be rid of her.
You want a scene from Skyward Sword that brings on some tears, how about the one where Link _finally_ reunites with Zelda, only for her to have to immediately seal herself away? That one didn't get you? It didn't make me full on cry but it did bring tears to my eyes.
I still wish that Fi would return even though that most likely won’t ever happen. I feel like she deserves a second chance with how annoying they ended up making her. I think the general consensus for her is being as bad if not worse than Navi, which really sucks because I loved her in Hyrule Warriors. She needs redemption.
While the interruptions were annoying, what actually makes Fi a pain to deal with is the way she talks. It's written in a very "this character is smart because we keep having her use big words and statistics" way, where she never actually says very much that's clever, but still talks down to the player. Combined with the frequency of interruptions I was happy to pretend she wasn't there most of the time. Through admittedly I never finished Skyward Sword.
@@mjc0961 hard disagree.
Hell no. At best, Fi is uncanny valley as hell. At worst, and more accurately: She's creepy as hell and just an awful design that's been shoe horned into the rest of the franchise.
Didn't even mention Tatl, a companion with actual personality and real story significance with actual stakes in the plot. Her development as a character and her ties to skull kid are fantastic. I will admit at the least that after Woodfall she does slowly begin to take a backseat (aside from specific sidequests) but I think that's just a testament to the team knowing how to not overstay her welcome compared to Navi. Also, her little bell is adorable.
I would say Sciela from Phantom Hourglass is this but better.
she barely had any screentime. wasted potential
On that last one, I can very much get behind giving Spirit Tracks Zelda all the love she deserves, because she's great, and one of my favorite Zeldas in the series, but I will not, WILL NOT, tolerate Midna slander in this house, my friend!
Justice for Midna!
The first 3 or 5 times I played Ocarina of Time, I actually went out of my way to trigger Navi notifications. I loved hearing her announce that stuff was going on, and I liked all the information she had for every enemy in the game.
You must be the kind of player to want to see every bit of dialogue in a game, even if it’s meaningless or unimportant. I'm the same way.
@@Chubby_Bub Actually, not at all. I normally only care about dialogue that's directly related to the main story. Like, I never do the side quests in Majora's Mask, and I don't talk to most NPCs in any game I play. It just somehow felt different when it came to Navi.
@@sharingheart13 but _Majora's Mask_ *IS* the sidequests...
@@KruelAidMan And yet I played through it multiple times, several hours each time, always ignoring almost all the side quests.
@@sharingheart13 fool actually bragging about not filling up their Bomber's Notebook
8:08 Linebeck was cool. He was funny and had some cool developments. Also, he is the only companion with such a catchy theme all to himself! Zelda is also the only companion in which you can controller her separately from the player and has her own moves and quirks that is involved in the gameplay, like a fear of mice for instance. She might be the best, but no one is acknowledging how neat Linebeck was.
hey aren't you the guy i saw on the luigi mansion video
Linebeck isn't really the companion in Phantom Hourglass, though. That would be Ciela. Linebeck mainly ferries you from island to island.
@@cubedmelons876 So did the King of Red Lions. At least Linebeck leaves his ship every now and again. Also... I think Ciela is kinda lame. I dunno. I liked her interactions with Linebeck and how she is perhaps the least annoying fair in the series, but there isn't much of anything to say about her. I do like the idea of 3 fairies representing power, wisdom, and courage, but it feels weirdly misplaced when there isn't much more of a thematic relevance to the game's story in a game where the triforce doesn't make an appearance. I like how she guides Link, that's a cool addition that works for a game like PH and is better than the generic sparkles that she was replaced with in ST.
@@Bananafrys Yup. I am an Arlo fan and comment every so often.
counterpoint: its thanks to linebeck hanging out with you that you have to deal with his annoying ex all the time. that alone brings his stock waaaaaay down
I was so ready for Odyssey to be my new favorite Mario game and it really came close, but ultimately I just think the courses fit Mario better than being stuck in the same open zone for 40 minutes and getting a lot of random moons. Make no mistake it's still a top tier game, but I just think Galaxy had the perfect mix of everything I want from Mario.
at least I finished galaxy. It has tight gameplay. Moon collecting was fun, cappy was sick. 60FPS was a bonus.
Sonic? I love the speed, love the open zone. But maybe I'm sick of open world games.
Actually maybe I don't like them- BOTW wasn't that good- its overhyped. Previous 3d zeldas (except skyward) were more enjoyable
I played galaxy for the first time with the switch release, so maybe it was just because of that, but I found it so underwhelming and boring. Couldn't bring myself to finish it, the level design was just so mediocre. Visually spectacular? Sure. But not fun whatsoever for me. Wish I could get into it.
Yeah odyssey is so far ahead of every other mario game. Galaxy was good and i enjoyed myself but..🤷♂️
Odyssey was the most disappointing Mario game I was so eagerly looking forward to. With only 15 levels to explore, with 3 or 4 being tiny and underwhelming, you can only do so much before getting tired of finding random moons for stupid things like climbing a tree. Mario ripped of Kirby’s copy ability and expects you to drool with nostalgia slobber the 100th time you’re forced to play as 8 bit Mario using an analog stick. I beat the game in less than 2 weeks and never felt compelled to play it again.
@@RobotacularRoBob Agreed plus best 100% reward and replayabity with Luigi being playable!
Nothing on N64 aged well graphically... but that is it. There are SO many fantastic games on there.
Super Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Goldeneye 007, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2, Pokemon Stadium, Banjo Kazooie & Tooie, Super Smash Bros, and quite a few more!
That may be but how did PS1 age worse? Those games make my eyes bleed yet I can stand N64 graphics.
Mario 64- by modern standards controls/motion is terrible which is bad for a platformer.
OoT- dungeons are all the same except shadow temple, all having similar designs with finding boss door early on and then looking for keys.
MM- nothing really for this one but some of the masks are bad and lots of the ideas aren’t fleshed out.
Goldeneye- controls bad again, which isn’t great for a multiplayer game.
Tony Hawk- on multiple consoles
Pokémon Stadium- don’t know enough
Banjo kazooie- don’t know that much but movement seems like mario 64 and music gets repetitive
Banjo tooie- many people have criticized this game already
Smash bros- nothing really for this one but the small roster would be unacceptable for a modern AAA fighting game.
I think Fi was a great companion that was just HORRIBLY implemented imo. She pesters so frigging much man, but her whole storyline with kinda learning to feel and stuff was really good and genuinely heartwarming for me. Also I REALLY like the fact that whenever the master sword is not cooperating (like breaking at an inopportune time in BOTW) you can be like “DANGIT FIE!” Having the master sword have its own personification is pretty cool.
That said Zelda from spirit tracks is EASILY the best companion. No question and it is not close
The Master Sword just becomes 'periodically unusable' but it's the _only_ weapon that doesn't actually 'break' in the whole game. Just mentioning it out on a side note.
Sad I know but meh hopefully Tears is better.
@@netweed09 sad?
@@oreomerchant6600 Well, not really now as Tears has proven to be a much needed improvement over Breath especially after Mr Aonuma's TotK gameplay presentation today.
@@netweed09 oh, ok. For some reason i just thought that you had seen the announcement and i was so confused 😂😂
@@oreomerchant6600 That's fine 👍 Tears is looking really Good. All I wanted is that 'extra special feeling' that a special game should give you. Breath gave Us the Open World Zelda yes but it was _so_ plain, so boring & the identikit shrines did not help at all. TotK's skyline looks interesting. Large chunks in the Sky, stuff to do and still so much We don't know. It finally has a visual _identity_ like Xenoblade.
The wrongzo! hammer is my favorite thing simply because of how much gusto you put into it
The we have enough Zelda take is such a wild take to me just because it probably has the most variety and consistent quality out of any series ever. If you pick up any random Zelda, it will be a good game that is very different from any other Zelda game. I can understand a take like "we have enough COD or FIFA" or other soulless franchises, but the developers obviously care about making something great.
Totally agree. Zelda is probably my favorite franchise, and while I’ve not played probably half of them (at least), I have played them all my life, and I’ve never felt burnt out with a new one. Every single one I’ve played has brought something different to the table. I’m on my third play through of BOTW.
Wrong on consistant quality. We go from highs like TP to craters like WW to substrata garbage that taints the entire franchise like SS.
It's all over the place.
I genuinely think Zelda 2 is almost the only Zelda that actually needs a remake.
The fact this is becoming a series makes me so happy
Nothing better than Arlo putting out a new video when you're already on an Arlo binge 🤩🤩
Such a rarity to be binging a creator and then *boom* new video from them 😋
Galaxy was such a grand experience that hasn't been replicated, specially when you compare its predecessors Sunshine (mind you I love Sunshine too) which was an adventure spanning an Island but then they took Mario to frigging Space! with an epic orchestral soundtrack the level design was great but the game has this whimsical atmosphere that kinda captures you and makes you wish you lived in one of those planetoids, and I'm not even mentioning the introduction of Rosalina because that's obvious, I can understand why Galaxy is many people's favorite.
Totally agree with this. I'd say Galaxy 2 is slightly better out of the two, but they're both incredible games at the end of the day
@DiabeticMan I wanted to like Sunshine. But it's way too frustrating and boring from my liking. But yeah. Galaxy 1 & 2 are far better.
Mario Sunshine was the last mario game I enjoyed. The atmosphere and locations were really memorable... unlike Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 which I regret playing through.
"they took Mario to frigging Space!" I never felt like I was in other world. None of the levels felt otherworldly, hell Mario Odyssey has far more otherworldly levels and that takes place on the planet Mario is from. The levels just look like pieces of the mushroom kingdom either in the sky or space, tiny little balls everywhere. Not a single level.
The games had two things going for it - the music and the fact it had a lot of boss fights. But even those things don't really matter because the last boss will just be bowser which is about as exciting as cleaning up your dogs poop at this point. They try so hard to make bowser a threat, like we are supposed to be afraid of this guy we have beaten over twenty times since we were children in the 80s.
Sorry, impossible. They make him giant in Galaxy 2 like that's supposed to be new and make a difference, even though they did the "giant bowser" thing better in yoshi's island.
They made a "cooler" version of the giant bowser in Bowser's fury where they actually changed his design, but it felt like fighting a goomba because there's nothing you can do to make bowser an exciting threat, not if they make him bigger than the planet, no matter how powerful they say he is, there's nothing they can do because all he is is a symbol of nintendos laziness.
That's why I don't play mario games anymore. If your main threat is not a threat then there is no excitement to be had. Shigeru Miyamoto didn't even want the story of Rosalina in there (seriously look it up), she would have just been some random space princess with no depth - he wants Mario games to be as insultingly as dumb as possible that's why he continues to make bowser the villain.
@Vaquix If u think Sunshine is better than Galaxy, than I'm sorry. But you are so wrong on so many levels. Sunshine is the worst 3D Mario game ever. Not only was it obnoxious, repetitive & tedious, but it's also very unpolished & buggy compared to other 3D Mario games. I do like the tropical aesthetic of Isle Delfeno. But even those looked incredibly bland due to all being beach and plain like levels and most of them suffer from it's horrible design choices. Only one that stood out to me was the amusement park. But even that one gets repetitive. The control's is also pretty janky & unresponsive at times and the game has annoying physics & collision platforming that felt like the game was doing it's fault and not me. The bosses weren't memorable to me as there pretty generic to fight and gets repetitive on fighting some of them 2 or 3 more times. And don't even get me started on the 100% completion & reward u get. Lastly, the story wasn't even that good either. The Piantas and other citizens of Isle Delfeno are the stupidest people I've seen. Shadow Mario & Mario are nothing alike, yet they still think Mario was the culprit that painted the entire island and Bowser telling his son that Peach was her mother when there clearly not the same species is all too ridiculous. The game was rushed. It was messed up & just poorly design of an game.
galaxy is boring ngl, sunshine & odyssey are more engaging in every way
In regards to the N64 one,
I grew up playing the DS remake of SM64 and didn't really understand the concept of graphical capabilities and limitations of older hardware, so when I first saw goofy-looking polygonal N64 Bowser in a video, I remember laughing about it with my brother. After playing both versions and learning more about the game's history and the overall video game industry, though, I've ended up enjoying the original a lot more. Even beyond what it represents, the controls are a lot tighter, it feels a lot less cluttered and more fun to run around in... It just offers a cleaner and simpler experience. Don't get me wrong, I still love the DS version and it will always hold a special place in my heart, but the point is that I was able to (at least somewhat) fully appreciate the original N64 classic even though I had no nostalgia for it.
All this to say that I don't agree with the fact that NOTHING on the N64 has aged well. I can't speak for a lot of the other games (including OOT and GoldenEye and such), but there's just so much to appreciate about Super Mario 64 even today. I mean, there's literally an entire website dedicated to playing and experiencing ROM ha---*ahem*, _modifications_ to the original. Clearly it's still doing something right, even looking beyond nostalgia.
With the Galaxy games being my entire childhood, I'll always prefer them over any new 3D Mario
I love this series
These videos are always a joy and i appreciate the amount of effort you put into them for us Arlo! ❤️
Man, just the minute I felt the need for new arlo content. Awesome
Yooo that first tweet was mine! Thanks for featuring it, I thought it was a pretty hot take. Great video!
0:04 I absolutely adore business Metroid! It's so adorable!
Arlo is just mad because I hear his voice when I read ezlo's dialogue
this is my favorite Arlo series right now, we should make 7 billion episodes. (Someone help Kane locked me in his basement)
The more these spicy takes come out the more I love these videos. Keep up the great work Arlo
One thing I will say, I’d like customisable Fairy companions kinda like what you get in the Warriors spin offs. Like you give them a different colour dress and you get some kinda passive buff.
Yeah, i do love that aspect. Gives a little lore to fairies too, beyond "ball of light + wings"
There can never be enough Zelda’s
There can never be enough of Zelda's what?
...OF ZELDA's WAT?!
[glares in F-Zero]
@@RedheadButNotReally - Nintendo: You can buy the Mario Kart 8 Deluxe's Booster Course Pass for only $24.99 today!
Or get it for free using the NSO+Expansion Pack subscription for $49.99!
Me: "If that's a selling point, then it's not 'free' anymore now is it?"
Nintendo: ... Shot him!
@@julianx2rl Zelda games, what else?🤨
@@RedheadButNotReally you act like Miyamoto wouldn't find an excuse not to do an _F-Zero_ even if there was no _Zelda_ for a decade
I love Fi. She can get a bit frustrating at times but I love how much of a role she plays in the story of Skyward Sword, which is probably the most story forward Zelda game.
Wrong on every level.
What role does she play besides being your GPS? You could remove her from the game completely without changing the plot in any significant way.
@@Christopher-md7tf she’s literally your sword. without fi the master sword doesn’t get made
@@yourehereforthatarentyou And that literally doesn't matter even one bit for the story. You could have Link find the sword and power it up through all those quests just like he does without Fi existing. She contributes zero to the actual plot.
@@Christopher-md7tf yeah that’s idiotic ngl. everything contributes nothing to the plot when you decide to remove it entirely and replace it with something else that effectively serves the same purpose
“zelda doesn’t even need to be in this game, link could just travel around hyrule looking for the flames to reforge the goddess sword, there’s no reason why he has to be looking for her at the same time, and we can just give ghirahim an entirely different way to resurrect demise that doesn’t require zelda, she serves no purpose”
realize how dumb that sounds
Zelda 2 REALLY need a successor. Same concepts taken to the modern day. A challenging, dark 2D sidescroller could be such a fun time.
I wish this series was taking off as well as other videos. This is so much fun! Maybe you can take the most fun takes/reactions from these videos and make into shorts?
Hey Arlo, have you ever considered buying an orangescreen to be your background rather than a greenscreen? Just wondering, I've been seeing you in front of a greenscreen for years and the greenscreen was chosen because it best contrasted the colour of a human, but you're a fuzzy blue monster, so I feel an orange screen would best contrast your blue fur!
I have literally hit play and I can already tell this is gonna be... SPICY.
In the early 2000s I played a little game called Zelda Classic which allowed people to make their own Zelda quests. As it started out as basically a PC port of Zelda 1, you were mostly limited to things in that game with only a handful of new items and enemies to work with. I'm pretty sure they added a lot more features and customizability and such later on, but at the time despite not being limited to NES style graphics the quests for the most part played like NES Zelda with its four directional movement that snaps you to an 8x8 grid when you change directions and other such limitations. Still, over the course of a couple of years I must have played dozens of quests, many of which did some really creative and memorable things. I still remember a puzzle in one dungeon where I had to light a torch that was out of reach of the candle. I had the book so my wand shots would make fire when they hit a target, but they would overshoot the torch and hit the wall. I had to sleep on that one, and had a eureka moment where I hit one of the keese in the room with my wand shot as it flew over the torch, lighting it and allowing me to progress. I played quests themed after other games, including Mega Man and Metroid. People got creative and used fire spitting statues and forcing enemies to spawn on certain tiles that were hidden under a layer of foreground graphics to make custom bosses with weak points. Sure, they were all stationary, but after defeating the weak point all walkable tiles would invisibly turn into stairs to warp you to another room, allowing them to create multiple "phases" within the limitations of the engine. There was some really creative stuff. I really want to go back and see what became of that game, and what quests people have made over the last 20 years. People made some crazy fun experiences while working in a mildly expanded version of the Zelda 1 engine that were often a blast to play 20 years ago, so I believe that the opportunity for new Zelda games without being held to such restrictions is definitely there. The series could end now, and it would have been a good run with a load of great games to play, but I believe that it can still grow and provide new meaningful experiences. When 3D Zelda started to feel like it was treading a bit too much of the old ground, Breath of the Wild came along and shook things up with a new style brimming with potential that has yet to be fully reached with it only really having the one dungeon that felt like a proper one. A Link Between Worlds reused the map from A Link to the Past, but by making most items available early on and adding the wall merge mechanic completely turned how you explored it on its head. Who knows what they will come up with next?
I always look forward to your videos Arlo. Hopefully you make one tomorrow about the new Zelda playthrough. Thanks for all the content I love your videos.
My Nintendo "hot" take: we need to boycott Pokemon. As a hardcore Pokemon fan since I was 6 (I'm 17 now, soon to be 18 in 2 months), and someone who wants to go into game design and development, the sheer amount of glitches in Scarlet and Violet hurt my trust in the Pokemon franchise. And when they announced DLC for it, didn't show any actual gameplay footage, and then released the Vivillon Pokemon Go connectivity that has reports of people losing access to Pokemon SV, I'm guessing it wasn't bug tested enough because Scarlet and Violet weren't bug tested properly...
It makes me mad. And now that the 3Ds has just closed closed, and along with it 33% or more of currently purchasable (via official Nintendo methods) Pokemon games...
Rest in peace 3Ds...
Thank you for the memories
You're right, asking for 120$ for two copies of an incomplete glitch ridden mess with crashing issues and a single save file from KIDS is disgusting.
This is how you get your entire save file corrupted and scam kids out of money.
@@Buglin_Burger7878 now that DLC is a thing, it's $180 in Sword and Shield, and $190 in Scarlet and Violet. Although Sun and Moon might as well be pair with Ultra Sun and Moon, so that gen was 40*4 or $160 with no DLC.
Also that paywall also affects competitive play. So that's dumb.
Maybe do what the western version of Yo-Kai Watch 3 did, make both versions 1 game. So you still incentivise trading while not needing to worry as much about buying a specific version if you aren't getting them all. And with online trading, and community codes, completing the Pokedex has never been easier. Only thing that could make it easier is if the game didn't lag, and breeding didn't suck in the current gen. I completed the Pokedex exactly a week after launch and got a Shiny Sprigatito via the Masuda Method. 110+ hours in game, and 5+ hours lost with it due to lag.
So yeah. I'm not buying the DLC. I was 1 of those kids who'd get suckered into buying the latest games until pre-Scarlet and Violet. Also I know I don't need to say sorry about this to anyone, but sorry for trying to defend the trees in Sword and Shield's wild area.
We don't need any more videogames. We got plenty.
Wooooooow!!! That is... That is a damn spicy take, so spicy it could burn an entire house!
They hated him because he told them the truth ☝
Okay we release MGS3 remake and stop.
Saying you think we have enough Zelda’s is like saying we have enough dogs in the world.
Yay!! Very happy this is turning out to be a series. I love hearing the hot takes and your thoughts on them
You should seriously do more of these this was so fun! Reminds me of Fantano’s “Let’s Argue” series.
We can be done with Zelda once they complete this weirdo timeline that they’ve written themselves into.
And hey, maybe TOTK will end it 🤷🏻♂️
Hopefully TOTK will be the last game like BOTW they make. I like the classic formula better.
I have to agree with Kane on the Galaxy > Odyssey take, while Odyssey is far from a bad game I personally had Galaxy hit that enjoyment factor exponentially greater than Odyssey did.
I think Galaxy feels like a more complete experience, ironically. Odyssey's structure leaves me kind of unsatisfied regardless of if I just play to beat it or I go for completion. Beating the game feels too easy, and completing it feels like a slog. Galaxy has way more meat to its Star missions, and the much smaller number of them makes each one more memorable. When I complete Galaxy, it really feels like I just traveled the whole universe on an epic quest, but when I complete Odyssey, it feels like I completed a list of chores.
These spicy takes are like waves of pure entropy and I'm lovin it!!
I was actively preparing to close the tab when that ending hit
kept me watching for those last few seconds
Yeah he got our watch time to the 10 minute mark
8:08 Love the Spirit Tracks representation. Zelda in that game is one of the best versions of her there's ever been
7:06 Arlo can laugh without moving any face muscles.
" no companion should ever pester the player" and yet I absolutely adore old medieval magical companions Caliburn and Grimoire Weiss from Sonic and the Black Knight and Nier Replicant respectively.
Still really loving this series! I love the way you approach it in general but your respect towards everyone's opinions regardless of their spice level is very refreshing. It's great that you do so without withholding your own opinions, while still giving thought and time to each spicy take you selected. Great stuff Arlo, and not always easy, esp on the internet.
Always an exciting time seeing these pop up
I respect Barry, but my hot take is the exact opposite of his. The farther away we get from the the release of Zelda games, the more overblown the companion complaints get. Not only are you replaying these games for likely the 15th time, but you already have a pre-disposition for any new Zeldas, even something like BOTW. They don't have an issue of giving them cool designs or personalities, they don't have an issue of stopping the players progress because most of their hints are optional, they usually ARE very story significant. The key issue is that as a long standing gamer you DON'T need then, and you are projecting the nuisance status onto them.
On top of that, Fi is great, and all of her issues are more tied to the games UX than her dialogue. For one the game doesn't remember what you've previously gathered between boots. The Wiimote can only play wirelessly, and your batteries will drain and die mid gameplay, you can complain about Fi telling you your batteries are dying, but they're GOING to die anyway, you're literally shooting the messenger. Lastly is Dowsing, its actually a cool mechanic but it makes Fi a constant force, and it makes since for story moments, but not when you loose a few to many hearts.
I guess what I'm really getting at is, we love partners like Goombella because its cool that they added dialogue for so many little details... no one appreciates Navi, and all because she has the courtesy to ask 'Hey?' instead of interrupting the player... that's just not fair. Try playing Megaman X7 and com back to me with your partner complaints.
Wow I was just listening to Jubilife city yesterday and hearing that as the background music in this video actually made me check if I had accidentally started playing the song on my laptop lol
Why did the goodbye crack me up the way that it did
I love your spicy salads, such a great idea put into action. I think you struck gold here, encouraging the use of opinions for fun and interesting discussion rather than division and opposition, is something a lot of the world needs right now.
When the one about no N64 games aging well came up and I immediately started thinking about how the Zelda games on the N64 feel absurdly similar to every 3D Zelda game that came after (from like a control perspective, how Link moves, attacks, interacts with the environment, the targeting system, etc.) which is really saying something about how they nailed it on the first try with 3D Zelda. Then of course how Banjo-Kazooie/Tooie are just masterful in so many different ways.
But then Arlo said Star Fox 64 and I was like "OOOOH!!!" Stopped me dead in my tracks! That game is the quintessential on-rails shooter to me! Minor improvements could be made with regards to sensitivity of the analog stick but like... everything just WORKS on that thing! And I will not hear a THING about how the retical should be aimed separate from flying the ship. The game was designed with that in mind and you, as a player, must "get good" by adapting and using what resources and abilities are given to you.
POINT IS!!! Star Fox 64 is stupidly, stop-you-in-your-tracks amazing.
Kane and Arlo fighting over Galaxy and Odyssey
Me shrugging whilst being a Sunshine enthusiast
@@jaretco6423 No, Super Mario Sunshine is better than Mario Galaxy and Odyssey put together but the Spaceworld version would've been cooler.
I feel like Navi hate basically went completely out the window when Skyward Sword came out lol
More spicy takes? Awesome, man. Perfect bonus to add to a good day.
I love these videos, please keep them going as long as they make sense to.
Fi is saved by 1) Her track being one of my favorites from the Zelda franchise, and 2) Her goodbye at the end actually working really well imo. I ended up being legit excited about her cameo in BotW, lol.
You're right, 6 greater signs is an unfair amount to describe how much greater Galaxy is to Odyssey. You'd need at least 12.
I'm going to have nightmares about Navi following me around in real life yelling "Hey!!!" every time I make a questionable decision or need to learn something.
This series is amazing! Thanks Arlo for continuously posting great content for us 😊!!!
So glad a new arlo video is out, I have been playing metroid prime and hearing phendrana depths really reminded me that I haven't watched arlo in a while
No we still need Link's Awakening 2 : The quest to save Marin from being trapped as a seagull forever !
238 days remaining till I (redacted) myself.
Zelda games are a tricky one. They're kind of like Star Wars at this point, in that they're legendary and we always want more of them, but at the same time any new additions to the franchise risk upsetting the delicate balance created by decades of lore, fan theorizing, expectations borne out of nostalgia, etc.
I've even heard it being said that with so many Star Wars TV shows, the franchise is starting to lose some of its mystery and becoming diluted, even if many of the newer shows are top-notch. But they very often insist on retreading on familiar territory rather than keeping closed chapters closed and creating new characters and stories that stand on their own merit.
The same could be said of Zelda games. We spend a lot of time with Link, Zelda, and Ganon, and throughout the years the series has risked becoming formulaic. That's one reason Breath Of The Wild felt so good, because it broke tradition and made everything fresh again, even if it did keep those three characters at the center once again. This has happened several times throughout the years, of course, but that's the most notable recent example for sure.
But how about getting a story that centers on a completely new Sheikah character, or a rogue Gerudo, with no mention of Link and Zelda at all? Or at the very least, we could make some of the side characters the main characters on their own spinoff game. How about a Sidon adventure set years in the future, or an Impa origin story? Maybe somebody else found the mask of Majora and now we can discover where all that evil came from.
Or even better, how about the development team gives the Zelda franchise some space and uses those resources and talent to create something completely new? A whole new story, a whole new universe, an entirely new character that we slowly learn to fall in love with, with a totally new gameplay style. There's nothing wrong with moving on to newer and different things every now and then. It's like all the Final Fantasy games we keep getting that keep changing up the formula but still insist on using the traditional spell names, summons, and recurring side characters as a justification to keep things in-universe. At what point does it become a completely different game that just stamps on the familiar brand for recognition but fails to be either faithful enough to tradition or new enough to be interesting?
On the other hand, if they ever decide to remake the 90's Zelda games with the Breath Of The Wild engine I'll be first in line to play that! :D
Ra-Ra-Rasputin... these are the kind of surprising jokes I love your videos for. Like the Christmas singing and stuff as well ^^
Yayyyyy 🎉
Your paper mario origami king review was suggested to me and I said "Arlo you haven't posted in a while" then tapped the channel icon and saw this to my surprise! Hope your resting well friend(s)! ❤
I thought Arlo said "when you are trying to avoid screaming" at first when talking about the lava lamps. I had to rewind and see that he said "avoid screens". I was like, man, Arlo's getting dark.
plz keep doing this, favorite series
Theres plenty of series I would say "We dont need any more of those" Gears of War or something where each game is pretty much identical, but Zeldas can be so radically different in settings and gameplay that it doesn't get old, that not wanting more of them is just nuts.
tatl is by far the best zelda companion ever, interesting complex backstory with her brother & skull kid, good character development, and she never annoys you. all of the story stuff with her is explicitly implied. genuinely underrated
Enough Zelda games? No way. I'm going to get a bit morbid here, but that's how I count the remainder of my life: how many Zelda games do I have left to play?
I'm counting 5 years between each one, give or take a year or two.. so, maybe 8-9. If I'm really lucky, eat healthy and all that, it could be 10+..
I enjoy these Spicy Take Salad episodes, keep em coming :)
On the Smash take: Speaking personally, as of Ultimate, the character intro cinematics became so impressive and loving that, yeah, they honestly are my favorite aspects of the new characters. That's not even shade on the game...a huge component of Smash is celebrating these characters and series, and the cinematics do that wonderfully. I'm not remotely ashamed of this.
On the 64: I think this kinda points to a bigger trend of a lot of gamers being really quick to refuse to engage with something that doesn't instantly click with them. And I get it: People's time and funds are limited, gaming is supposed to be fun, investing in something when it isn't immediately apparent that it will be enjoyable puts a big risk on that time, energy, and funds. But I see so many (usually older) games just dismissed because of "insert single outdated feature here", often by people who never gave it an honest chance. Virtual Consoles and eShops had me excited to explore a bunch of material from before my time, and not all of it was top-notch, but I found a ton of gems I'd never experienced before, and there seems to be a vocal opposition to that kind of curiosity, at least among the most visible of gaming social media. Again, people can do what they want with their time...I just find it a little sad.
Anyway, plenty of 64 stuff works very well within the system's limitations. F-Zero X, Diddy Kong Racing, Wave Race 64 (a lot of racers), the Banjos, Paper Mario, Star Fox 64, and the Zeldas are my personal highlights.
Played Banjo Kazooie for the first time on N64 a few years ago, so no nostalgia for it at all. It absolutely still holds up.
That was more wholesome than I was expecting.
Thank you for not overdoing the “wrongzo” gavel gag. It was funny, but we don’t need it every time. I also think this is a good pace for the spicy take salad videos.
GAH THESE NEED TO BE LONGER I LOVE THEM
I just realized his hand is looking at a laptop. How does he see? Does he have a separate screen that he looks at and syncs his hand movements with himself whenever he looks at the other screen?
Surprised we haven’t seen a Zelda game that changes the gameplay like Zelda 2 since that because there was a lot of cool elements and creative features that diverted regular tradition
I think a future spin off game could fit the bill unless they already exist but I would like to see one with modern Zelda style (my hot take)
It's actually an interesting discussion, should game franchises end? We have movies that go on and on with sequels, and people eventually go: "Another one?! Didn't they just conclude that story?", and yet for video games, we're always like "well the game was good, so OBVIOUSLY there should be a sequel!". It's a weird dichotomy, and I'm not sure why it exists (But I'll never stop wanting new 3d Mario games!).
9:18 I'd like to see a video of you ranking Zelda companions.
Ezlo's cool because he has a connection with Vaati. Remember Vaati, guys? He was one of the very few recurring villains aside from Ganon. _Nintendo_ doesn't seem to remember him, even though they had the _perfect_ opportunity to make the main villain from Age of Calamity a new version a Vaati, but nah. They forgot that he exists.
Sunshine >>>>>> Galaxy (Source: I've played and beat every main Mario platformer and then some).
Full list:
A tier: Odyssey, Sunshine, Mario64, Mario World, Mario World 2
B tier: Galaxy, Galaxy 2, Mario 3, Mario 2, Mario 3D World, New SMB WiiU
C tier: Mario Bros, Mario 3D Land, Mario Land, New SMB, New SMB Wii, New SMB 2, Mario Run
D tier: Mario Lost Levels, Mario Land 2
I might have missed a couple, but, if I did, they probably are lower on the list anyways. And I'm not going to include Mario Maker 1 & 2 because the game is only as good as the skill of the person who made it, so it doesn't feel like it belongs alongside the (mostly) well polished level design of your standard Nintendo Mario games.