Let's Be Mad About eShop Closures One More Time

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  • @ArloStuff
    @ArloStuff  ปีที่แล้ว +170

    PINNED COMMENT WOWZA
    Go to buyraycon.com/arlo for 15% off sitewide! Brought to you by Raycon.

    • @jackjensensplaythroughsrev49
      @jackjensensplaythroughsrev49 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sup

    • @-aexc-
      @-aexc- ปีที่แล้ว

      my comment about Raycons seems to be deleted. just look for any review of them by someone who hasn't been paid by them

    • @Sonic101_
      @Sonic101_ ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Who cares about the Eshop closing. Just pirate

    • @leeartlee915
      @leeartlee915 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The hShop is your friend Arlo. That 3DS store is AMAZING.

    • @WolfmanArt
      @WolfmanArt ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Does Nintendo plan to bring GameCube games to the Switch? There's a ton a games from that console era I never got to try!

  • @wolfybuilder
    @wolfybuilder ปีที่แล้ว +1529

    You know Nintendo's gone too far when Arlo unironically talks about """piracy""", without the whole "I'd NEVER tell you to do that!" bit

    • @sboinkthelegday3892
      @sboinkthelegday3892 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was an inbred tier take. You've been moralizing on it so long you've forgotten to PRESERVE another crucial part of English language.
      Piracy is NOT a problem with "accessing" content you've already started treating like socialized public proprety, like you own THE RIGHT to buy it. If somebody owns land, and shuts down a theme park on that land, they are NOT obligated morally or otherwise to "preserve" your inane fantsies of Woodstock being anything but nostalgic garbage.
      You taking the liberty to TRESPASS there, is against the core concept of PROPERTY in the form of that land. And PIRACY is spitting on the OWNER'S right to NOT sell you something that isn't YOURS; it's THEIRS. Your NOSTALGIA is not ownership, it's socialism to pretend otherwise, and THAT IS WHY it was termed as "piracy", in lack of a better word. To AT LEAST put a name on the concept.
      But you don't even have the concept. You're not legally literate in a common man's standard, and you're not fit to vote on these issues by a common man's standard. But, whose voting? These outcries exist exclusively to enact mob justice and ignore the rational reasoning. People just emotionally refused to understand WHY there is such a thing as NOT forcing people to sell away their property, IN THE FIRST PLACE. Because you're feeling ENTITLED to buying it, by force if necessary, you'd just ignore the facts that go against such entitlement. And that IS socilaism, that is bog standrd socialism, the kind fo a degree like "as long as you can SEE a house existing you get by law to busk in it". The state that allows piracy is a state that ALREADY socialized that property. The state that snidely illegalizes it and refuses to enforce that legislation anyway, is a CORRUPT socialist state, to boot.

    • @Draezeth
      @Draezeth ปีที่แล้ว +160

      It's not piracy if there's no way to buy it!

    • @TurboPikachu
      @TurboPikachu ปีที่แล้ว +98

      @@Draezeth I mean, copyright-wise, it still _is_ piracy, which is really scummy on Nintendo’s part as the publisher, because they still have the legal right to sue ppl who pirate games even if said games are no longer legally obtainable, all while the actual developers who want more people to play the games they spent years of their life working on are having to watch all that time and effort of theirs essentially be put away into Nintendo’s vault

    • @happyspaceinvader508
      @happyspaceinvader508 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@TurboPikachu That might be the law in your country, but it’s certainly not a worldwide law. Thus far, I think they’ve only successfully sued people in the USA, and in those cases it was the people supplying pirated rooms, not the people downloading them.
      EDIT: In fact, I’m not sure Nintendo have ever even sued anyone… just threatened them with a lawsuit if they didn’t shut their website down.

    • @sonicmeerkat
      @sonicmeerkat ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@TurboPikachu copyright is for distribution not owning the product hence, copy right.

  • @peterporker7822
    @peterporker7822 ปีที่แล้ว +710

    I just wanna say, props to Capcom for lowering the price of their games so much on the Eshop closure. I bought so many of their games for such a cheap price

    • @willwunsche6940
      @willwunsche6940 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Same they got some my money and me to very soon try some of their franchises I probably wouldn't have otherwise. If I like them I will probably play more of their games in the future

    • @Antasma1
      @Antasma1 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Why were they the only ones to do this?! I had to buy Xenoblade Chronicles X for full price

    • @SuperThobal
      @SuperThobal ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Yeah... except they skipped us in Europe. Actually made me more frustrated at them because a friend of mine has been waiting for a sale for YEARS while the sales in the US kept on going, giving me a slimmer of hope each time. Would have loved to throw my money in their face for pretty much every discounted game but I'm not paying top dollar when I know they are practically giving the games away elsewhere. Emulation it is.

    • @s.bregnest2857
      @s.bregnest2857 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      $3 for every Monster Hunter game was a steal.
      I also got SF4, which I’m surprised was apparently a 3DS launch title.

    • @skeletonliar101
      @skeletonliar101 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@SuperThobal Similar situation for me and a few friends, but with Sega/Atlus games. They had deep discounts in Europe for the past week or so, but not in the US. It was really frustrating to see them on sale, but not in our region.

  • @blabbitybla2780
    @blabbitybla2780 ปีที่แล้ว +458

    Huge respect for zoning right into the pirating aspect of this topic, too many people dance around this out of fear Nintendo will put them on the naughty list

    • @ImTheMan0fSteel
      @ImTheMan0fSteel ปีที่แล้ว

      As they SHOULD. And I reported the video for that reason.
      Someone telling you they don't want to sell you something, is not a license to STEAL. It still makes you an immoral, dead beat loser who thinks they are entitled to video games. Get a job.

    • @tomatoprincess2709
      @tomatoprincess2709 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Lol i think he's already on the nintendo naughty list considering he no longer says "product provides by nintendo" in his reviews xD so that gives hik the freedom to say what he wants

  • @JsYTA
    @JsYTA ปีที่แล้ว +187

    2 decades of dual screen gaming now a product of its era.

  • @Oslith
    @Oslith ปีที่แล้ว +1634

    “You can’t steal an item from a store that doesn’t sell that item.” Is a brilliant way to put it. I’m using that from now on.

    • @HotelMari0Maker
      @HotelMari0Maker ปีที่แล้ว +79

      Arlo is truly the Socrates of our time.

    • @Trashley652
      @Trashley652 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      At first i was like fuck yeah good point! But then I was like well... I mean... you can steal a cash register...

    • @BB-pn2qv
      @BB-pn2qv ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is well said.

    • @BigGoronSword
      @BigGoronSword ปีที่แล้ว +56

      *Goes to a store*
      Guy: Do you sell cars?
      Employee: No
      Guy: "You can't steal an item from a store that doesn't sell that item"
      Arlo: That's not what I meant, and you know it!

    • @xsshow1115
      @xsshow1115 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      So, when a store switches its clothing from summer to winter season product... is it then okay to walk into the stockroom and steal the summer outfit you want? Ha ha ha

  • @DanGamingFan2846
    @DanGamingFan2846 ปีที่แล้ว +726

    Rest in piece 3DS/WiiU eshop bag guy. You and your great, games may be gone, but you will never be forgotten.

    • @watershipup7101
      @watershipup7101 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yeah, never forget the dat Nintendo screwed up. Again.

    • @ananon5771
      @ananon5771 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      its not gone, homebrew says hi

    • @Water_Me_Loan_64_YT
      @Water_Me_Loan_64_YT ปีที่แล้ว +15

      His name is Colin the eShop Bag.

    • @TheRibottoStudios
      @TheRibottoStudios ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I'm really gonna miss that sound when you download a game and all those lil blocks go in the bag....It was oddly comforting.

    • @Racecarlock
      @Racecarlock ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes, gone but not forgotten. Whoever we were talking about.

  • @DaGhostToastRoast
    @DaGhostToastRoast ปีที่แล้ว +324

    It’s even worse that they have embraced subscription services and that we have to pay endlessly into a service now that could go away at any time just to play the classic games.

    • @ThomastheDankEngine8900
      @ThomastheDankEngine8900 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Nintendo: “you will own nothing, and you will be happy.”
      Furukawa simps: “yes master!”
      Anyone defending Furukawa’s garbage business decisions is not a Nintendo fan, they hate the company as much as Furukawa does and is a simp for him.

    • @mr.awesome6011
      @mr.awesome6011 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      It would sting less if all of the games that were on 3DS and WiiU virtual consoles were on NSO but they're not. Not even close.

    • @radaf4429
      @radaf4429 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You don't have to pay, literally no one is forcing you

    • @InkyMuste
      @InkyMuste ปีที่แล้ว +39

      I absolutely loathe these subscription services, how I wish they would just give us the option to buy older games individually again, it just feels like they're taking away all control from us.

    • @DaGhostToastRoast
      @DaGhostToastRoast ปีที่แล้ว

      @@radaf4429 My want to play n64 games on switch is forcing me. Well I could try to hack my switch but I’m not good at that and might break it.

  • @Gokujyo
    @Gokujyo ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Holy cow, Arlo talking about "piracy" and mentioning the "3DS is easy to hack" meme. This is great, thank you. You're absolutely right! Well done.

  • @MrViperHiggins
    @MrViperHiggins ปีที่แล้ว +737

    Couldnt agree more man it sucks to see game preservation taking such a dive

    • @Neucher
      @Neucher ปีที่แล้ว +35

      hshop to the rescue

    • @animalxing8697
      @animalxing8697 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Completionist and company downloaded the entire library of both

    • @Tacom4ster
      @Tacom4ster ปีที่แล้ว +17

      This is why we need to end capitalism

    • @twistedkarma9574
      @twistedkarma9574 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      ​@@Tacom4ster and how exactly would that help in the future? Please explain.

    • @thelastdragon5551
      @thelastdragon5551 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Tacom4ster Because they didn’t want to support old hardware? 😂

  • @thespeedyyoshi
    @thespeedyyoshi ปีที่แล้ว +555

    That part of “pirating” from a store that doesn’t exist is a REALLY good point XD.
    You really can’t “pirate” a game from a service where you no longer can get the game

    • @lasercraft32
      @lasercraft32 ปีที่แล้ว +123

      Nintendo isn't gonna like it (they never do) but if they care so much maybe they should actually sell their own games. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @DS9TREK
      @DS9TREK ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Morally you're correct but legally not so much

    • @thelastdragon5551
      @thelastdragon5551 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lasercraft32 What do you even mean by that?

    • @Buglin_Burger7878
      @Buglin_Burger7878 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      @@DS9TREK Then that is a failure of a law and the law should be reworked legally speaking.

    • @lasercraft32
      @lasercraft32 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@thelastdragon5551 Nintendo doesn't like when people pirate their games, even if there's no other way to play it.

  • @creativealias85
    @creativealias85 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    hey yo arlo i hope u see this comment cause like i really feel like shouting out ur mega skills with puppeteering. like i know its pretty much an unspoken rule to not bring up the fact that youre a dude behind the puppet, but honestly part of what makes that so easy is the fact that your skills are so ridiculously good. you put so much effort into making the puppet express in realistic and believable ways, and it seriously brings to mind the stories of how muppet set workers would mic kermit puppets instead of voice actors because they would forget that it wasn't just kermit delivering the lines. ive never been into puppeteering but ive got major respect for the clear reverence youve got for your art form. keep on keepin on my man, youre a master of your craft!

  • @bloodeagle6458
    @bloodeagle6458 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    In an era when you can save everything
    They erase everything😢😢

  • @DarkTyyp
    @DarkTyyp ปีที่แล้ว +473

    Seeing Arlo mad about this brings a smile to my face.
    WHY THEY GOTTA MASSACRE MY BOI THE ESHOP LIKE THAT

    • @legocreator768
      @legocreator768 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      now we have no reason not to use hShop :3

    • @diccchocolate416
      @diccchocolate416 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@legocreator768i love one piece

  • @sageoffire3964
    @sageoffire3964 ปีที่แล้ว +254

    I LITERALLY just typed in "eShop closure", and then got the notification for this video. The definition of literally PERFECT timing.

  • @justsomesimplenuclearbirbs4313
    @justsomesimplenuclearbirbs4313 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Fans were so distraught about the 3DS eShop shutdown that one person gave the idea to include the 3DS eShop Bag in their fangames. So much so that the next update for CTGP-7 will have the little fella as an alternate character to race as.
    We've also got the music, SFXs and some of the graphics used in the 3DS eShop (including the eShop Bag him/herself, kinda going for a NiGHTS situation here) archived on both The VG Resource and here on TH-cam.
    The eShop's legacy *will* live on. Regardless if Nintendo actually cares or not.

  • @matthewLkidder
    @matthewLkidder ปีที่แล้ว +325

    An Eshop closes, gives moral liberty to pirate

    • @LM-nb7rj
      @LM-nb7rj ปีที่แล้ว +51

      YARRR, HOIST THE BLACK FLAG AND PREPARE TO SET SAIL! 🏴‍☠

    • @megaman37456
      @megaman37456 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      My friends you will always remember this as they day you almost caugh- *falls off cliff into the water*

    • @joaop5033
      @joaop5033 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was a pirate way before it was cool

  • @just_a_turtle_chad
    @just_a_turtle_chad ปีที่แล้ว +238

    And this is why we have independent uploaders, who maintain the survival of these games through unofficial mean, to ensure that the games remain accessible. Kudos to them!

    • @ianeons9278
      @ianeons9278 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are the new Justin Y

    • @comp.lex4
      @comp.lex4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pirates obtain the media
      Archivists maintain the media
      Librarians distribute the media
      A blurry ecosystem of digital historians, all operating just beyond the slimy reaches of the Nintendo legal department (or any other copyright lawyers, really.) Kill the stigma, because without these people, lost media would be an epidemic

  • @LinkRammer
    @LinkRammer ปีที่แล้ว +382

    On the upside, it is now perfectly morally acceptable for me to emulate any wii u or 3ds eshop game! Nice job, Nintendo.

    • @TheMoris
      @TheMoris ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Noooooo please don't do this to the poor starving indie devs at Nintendo! They MIGHT remaster some of the games for a newer system some (unknown) time in the future, so piracy is still super immoral

    • @Reyalty
      @Reyalty ปีที่แล้ว +37

      ah but you see; it always was. it is always morally acceptable and, in fact, is morally correct to pirate games

    • @mojo3320
      @mojo3320 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@Reyalty Very true, especially when it comes to Nintendo and delisted games! It's always ethical especially when they fucked us over with the handling of the eShop closing

    • @blackearl7891
      @blackearl7891 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Ehh its not moral. But I also don't care. Not going to make some mental gymnastics to pretend it's moral. It's not but at the same time I also don't care for the moral aspect.

    • @TheDapperDragon
      @TheDapperDragon ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ​@@blackearl7891 it actually is when you can't get it in any legal way.
      That's the entire reason for nintendo selling emulators. Because then, they can use that as a legal method to play the game.

  • @MineWiz117
    @MineWiz117 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I modded my 3ds a few days ago and it's one of the best decisions I've made. I have access to every digital only game, I can play a lot of JRPGs that are like $100+ on the aftermarket, and I can even play every GBA and DS games right from the home menu. You can even do some amazing stuff like get custom themes for the home screen or play fan translations and rom hacks. Considering this, it was crazy for me to see all of the people rushing out to get all of these digital games. They're literally giving Nintendo money to screw them over. Modding is the way to go.

    • @JohnkyTonkbadonkadonk
      @JohnkyTonkbadonkadonk ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would have given them more money if the games I were interested in went on sale at all in the last year of the eShop. But no, Monster Hunter and Ace Attorney is all there really was, time after time. I bought one or two games on my unmodded 3ds so there's shown interest in specific series in hopes developers will see there is interest n their games and choose to port, remaster, or just make new games in said series, but yeah, overall cfw 3ds is the way to go though. Being able to patch region exclusive games to have english, such as Dragon Warrior Monsters Terrys Wonderland, or Iru and Luca's Marvelous Mysterious Key, is amazing. I would have no way to enjoy these games otherwise..

  • @scoobydoo23320
    @scoobydoo23320 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    The shift in opinion on privacy is not just because of Nintendo. Lots of streaming shows never get physical release now. And many are platform exclusives. So if that company decides to remove the show they only way to watch it is illegally.
    This has happened to Infinity Train season 3 and 4. They were HBO max exclusives that never got dvd release and got pulled from the platform.

  • @linklegend7536
    @linklegend7536 ปีที่แล้ว +214

    This whole eshop situation single handedly pushed me into modding my 3ds and wiiu. Never did ANYTHING with modding and had no expierence at all but it really is "surprisingly easy" the memes are not lying LOL

    • @KanesTheName
      @KanesTheName ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Exactly the same for me! Recently modded it so I didn't have to miss out on the eShop Ace Attorney games. Was quite intimidating at first but it's pretty much just a case of putting some folders and files on the SD card LOL

    • @idontwantahandlethough
      @idontwantahandlethough ปีที่แล้ว +22

      *Wii U USB Helper* isn't the most optimal way to do things, but it's _alarmingly_ easy. If you are wondering if you can do it, you can! Even your grandma probably could tbh.

    • @Rhubarb120
      @Rhubarb120 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Definitely. It didn't even take me an hour to mod my 3ds. It is super easy.

    • @Ross516
      @Ross516 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I've done nothing but quote the surprisingly easy memes since I hacked my 3ds because they *really* aren't wrong!

    • @reddawn1873
      @reddawn1873 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same

  • @EliasCullen
    @EliasCullen ปีที่แล้ว +125

    I don't think I've ever seen such a widespread emotional response to a store closing. Very interesting

    • @DS9TREK
      @DS9TREK ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Wasn't the response to PS3 closing stronger? That's why Sony changed course and kept it open

    • @amesstarline5482
      @amesstarline5482 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ​@@DS9TREK Considering how seemingly unpopular the Wii U is, it's more surprising.

    • @CruxisAngel954
      @CruxisAngel954 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Ppl were pretty upset with the original Wii store closing. I’ll give PlayStation fans massive props since they made Sony do a complete 180 on their decision. The PS3 store outlived the Wii, 3DS, and WiiU

    • @corruptedplayer
      @corruptedplayer ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@amesstarline5482 if it would just have been the wiiu shop the reaction would be less. the 3DS was really popular and that reaction is appropriate

    • @willwunsche6940
      @willwunsche6940 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@CruxisAngel954With the Wii at least people had the Wii U to buy if they really wanted to but it still really sucked to lose the channels and experience. With the PS3 I think that people were more upset since it's a "real" home console with full online functionality that still beats the Switch they probably have it in their basement tv and don't like the idea of it losing it versus the Wii where most people who​ own one got all the digital software and games they wanted long ago besides VirtualC and maintaining online (but that company collapsed so you can't blame Nintendo for that specific thing)

  • @maestrogeicho
    @maestrogeicho ปีที่แล้ว +91

    "you can't steal an item from a store that doesn't sell that item" is the best analogy I've heard for ethical piracy

  • @OneMaskedNinja
    @OneMaskedNinja ปีที่แล้ว +116

    "You can't steal an item from a store that doesn't sell that item." Thank you Mr. Arlo for a great new quote that perfectly encapsulates my stance on emulation.

  • @t.fernbach602
    @t.fernbach602 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    The problem is that Nintendo doesn't offer any alternative for 95% of games on those eShops. Give us an option to download those games on the Switch's eShop and we're golden.

    • @firenze6478
      @firenze6478 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Or its only for rent on the horrible NSO

    • @Antasma1
      @Antasma1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Even if you like their Netflix styled classic library, what about games that came even later they’re not covering?

  • @TheOstrichOrginization
    @TheOstrichOrginization ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I like how you talked about tracking down old games and having to track them down. When we found out that 3DS eshop was closing, I wanted to get a copy of Luigi’s Mansion 1. But I didn’t wanna pay 60 dollars for it off of ebay. So I was sad and cried myself to sleep. But then a few weeks ago, I went to GameStop because I needed a new Xbox controller. Then I saw they had Luigi’s mansion 1 for 15 bucks. I was so happy

    • @bracedgod4505
      @bracedgod4505 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or an Xbox controller with an emulator hehehe

  • @metaldiceman
    @metaldiceman ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Arlo's rage is so contagious. I love it.

  • @happymask8042
    @happymask8042 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "You can't steal an item from a store that doesn't sell that item." - Arlo

  • @danyx855
    @danyx855 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    My brain subconsciously conviced itself the puppet is the real Arlo whenever I don't actively think about it lol

    • @DS9TREK
      @DS9TREK ปีที่แล้ว +13

      What puppet?🤔

    • @ZoruaMaster
      @ZoruaMaster ปีที่แล้ว +16

      What you mean? He's a friendly blue monster.

    • @halcyonacoustic7366
      @halcyonacoustic7366 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I've met arlo at a con. I met arlo the man. I do not remember what he looks like lol.

    • @littlefiddlesticks
      @littlefiddlesticks ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Theres a puppet?

  • @AshyMuted
    @AshyMuted ปีที่แล้ว +57

    At least we got a wave of cool art of the 3DS eShop bag guy.

  • @rustyshackleford234
    @rustyshackleford234 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    RIP 3DS Nintendo E-shop 2011-2023
    You where my childhood 😔

  • @darrenmacqueen9884
    @darrenmacqueen9884 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Two things I hope Nintendo does going forward:
    1. They need to keep the same storefront on all their consoles from now on like Sony and Microsoft do. Sony didn't need to close their old stores because it's all one store. You can still buy stuff on the PS3 store to this day.
    2. The next console should be a hybrid model like the current Switch, but allow for the the handheld model to communicate with the dock wirelessly, enabling for dual screen options with the TV. This will allow DS, 3DS, and Wii U games that use the dual screen to still be played. And they can make new dual screen games if they want. And then I hope they just stick with that model going forward. No new weird gimmicks.
    Edit:
    A third thing I hope for is backwards compatibility with the Switch like what Sony is doing now and Microsoft has been doing all along. Keeping the same storefront would make it easier, so hopefully Nintendo can finally learn from their competition.

    • @littlefiddlesticks
      @littlefiddlesticks ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If they follow your hopes for the new system, i would be such a happy nerd!

    • @Valcuda
      @Valcuda ปีที่แล้ว

      That's what I thought Nintendo was doing, when they made the Swotch eShop!

    • @Wiki1184
      @Wiki1184 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s what I’d want to. I feel pretty secure knowing the 360’s store is probably going to last as long as Microsoft is still making consoles.

  • @Mike_Dubo
    @Mike_Dubo ปีที่แล้ว +28

    13:22 Not to mention, can you actually call it stealing, if the resource in question is fundamentally infinite? These games aren't really physical pieces that require materials to make in order to keep selling (game cartridges being an exception), they're bits of data that can be copied time after time.

    • @Shnarfbird
      @Shnarfbird ปีที่แล้ว

      It was about opportunity cost or something

  • @Oso-Gaming
    @Oso-Gaming ปีที่แล้ว +19

    So ends the reign of Arlo. After suggesting he would download ROMs he didn't already purchase, the blue monster was taken out by Nintendo DMCA Snipers... it was great while it lasted.

  • @BQuanchi
    @BQuanchi ปีที่แล้ว +14

    One thing about this, and timing, is that the Dolphin emulator is being listed on Steam (which sounds crazy for an emulator). Also Nintendo has this weird habit of re-releasing legacy content, but for a limited time. Like for the 3D Mario All Stars game and the English version of the first NES Fire Emblem game. I can only hope Nintendo makes a effort to revamp digital (and purchasable) versions of their older content.

  • @Draezeth
    @Draezeth ปีที่แล้ว +12

    THANK YOU! If there is no official way to buy something.... IT ISN'T PIRACY!

  • @NikingTheViking
    @NikingTheViking ปีที่แล้ว +43

    It's really sad how many games are actually being lost because of this, some of these games never had a physical release so they will probably be lost to time. 😔

    • @MadMaxxed1224
      @MadMaxxed1224 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Every single 3DS and Wii U game has been preserved for quite a while, nothing is lost to time

    • @almightygod87
      @almightygod87 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MadMaxxed1224 Ya that and all the indie games are already on every other console/PC

  • @michaelnelson1127
    @michaelnelson1127 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Putting mourning and emulation aside, it’s good to see a fellow Picross 3D enthusiast. I’ve completed all 4 files on it 100%, and I’ve even erased a file once or twice to go through it again. As for Round 2, I did download it last year, and it’s still pretty fun.

  • @davidford5575
    @davidford5575 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Its bad, I’d rather it be open, but the silver lining for me personally was that this pushed me to play some games that I kept putting off. (Namely all the laytons, the gamecube Zelda remakes, and spirit tracks)

  • @Sting_ray
    @Sting_ray ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Here’s the problem tho, these eShops ARENT going away, not really. As of right now, you can still download games that you have already purchased. All the games are still there, the servers are still up. All that REALLY happened is Nintendo removed the privilege for us to GIVE THEM MONEY. That’s it.
    Sure, the servers will go down one day, and then no one will be able to download games anymore, but until then the games just float there in cyberspace taunting us.

    • @greengreens6347
      @greengreens6347 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn't the Wii still up?

    • @Sting_ray
      @Sting_ray ปีที่แล้ว

      @@greengreens6347 it appears you can re-download still on the Wii Shop Channel. So those servers are still up too. Same situation.

  • @ade1174
    @ade1174 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have almost 300 games downloaded on my 3DS and over 200 on my Wii U. They were great systems.

  • @graftical
    @graftical ปีที่แล้ว +7

    In my opinion, I feel like it's too soon for the 3DS, rather than the Wii U. Usually between shop closures, it occurs around 5-7 years after said console had been discontinued. The DS and Wii got discontinued in 2012 and it's shops closed in 2017 and 2019, respectively. The Wii U got discontinued in 2016, and it's shops lasted until 2023, around the same amount of time as the Wii's. The 3DS got discontinued in September 2020, and it's shops closes less than 3 years after the fact. I get the 3DS lasted longer out of all of them, but it's ridiculous how short the 3DS's eShop lasted after the console stopped being produced.

  • @meisterwu8922
    @meisterwu8922 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's not just the eShops that were closed.
    Virtual Console has now officially died aswell.

  • @theViceth
    @theViceth ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I see a fellow enjoyer of putting hats and glasses on any item one can get their hands on.
    I approve, Arlo.

  • @jeremysart
    @jeremysart ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Oh, Nintendo is giving us other options alright, and for once, I finally went to the dark side and I’ve never been happier. CFW & HShop on my 3DS just day one has been incredible.

  • @benjaminmajeski140
    @benjaminmajeski140 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    it seems like an easy solution to this would be to provide download codes on the nintendo website, and then have e-shop be download codes only.

    • @TheDavidish
      @TheDavidish ปีที่แล้ว

      That would work with the compliances that made them shut it down, but that would make too much sense for Nintendo. That would also be too consumer friendly for them

    • @youtube_bat3811
      @youtube_bat3811 ปีที่แล้ว

      exactly the same idea as mine

  • @SintasSays
    @SintasSays ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The original 3DS eshop theme gets me so nostalgic that I almost want to cry

  • @web2871
    @web2871 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I gotta say, the puppeteering has gotten really good!

  • @MooglesandNoponForever
    @MooglesandNoponForever ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Buckle up me hearties! Dolphin, Cemu, and Hshop shall still give us that wonderful horizon!

  • @gamer3ed484
    @gamer3ed484 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m too lazy to look up the exact quote, but I’m always reminded of that old Gabe Newell saying.
    Piracy is an issue of proper services not being provided. If old games were being sold for a fair price in an easily accessible way, the overwhelming majority of people would go for that option over piracy and emulation.

  • @tatsumitwi348
    @tatsumitwi348 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Emulation is the digital equivalent of archeology at this point.

  • @RedMage8BT
    @RedMage8BT ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The pirate eshops still work, it seems

  • @ExploDjinn
    @ExploDjinn ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Waited until the last minute, because that's the only way I operate, but I managed to download everything I wanted from the e-Shop. That said, I imagine something that I missed will be brought to my attention at some point, so I'm really glad I have an extra 3DS just sitting around that I can, uh, do stuff with. Like look at.

  • @shadowscrawl7959
    @shadowscrawl7959 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hitting all the points on the issue! It's very sad :(

  • @abcdefgee
    @abcdefgee ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't believe you and you literally went to the moon to film that short advertisement!

  • @ianeons9278
    @ianeons9278 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “The Wii U has a very sleek modern design out the box but a few sessions later it’s right up finger print avenue”
    - Scott the Woz

  • @edwheezer6231
    @edwheezer6231 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Dang, that section on piracy was really thought provoking. "You can't steal an item from a store that doesn't sell that item." That's... so true, actually. It'll be fascinating to see if the public perception of "piracy" starts to change as more and more stuff shuts down.
    The Switch eShop is LOADED with small exclusives, and quality of the games be darned, the majority of those will vanish permanently once the shop closes. And what happens then? Will Nintendo really expect everyone to buy and download all of the good games before the shop closes? And if so, will we really wade through hundreds of thousands of games on a laggy storefront with no review system just to find the games we want while also having to worry about storage space?
    Or will we just pirate any we learn about after the fact?
    I'm not quite sure yet, but... it will be interesting.

    • @Boulder7685
      @Boulder7685 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So long as people don’t get the idea in their head that “well this won’t be available in the store forever so it’s fine to pirate it now” I think it’s a fine stance.
      It’s one thing to either wait out the Switch’s entire eShop lifespan and then go and download the games sold for free, it’s another thing entirely to do it while you can still buy the game you intend to play on said hardware but choose to download it for free instead.
      And I can’t imagine that anyone would reasonably argue that it’s justified for them to download a game like Octopath Traveler for their Switch after the Switch’s shop is closed while they could instead be buying it legally somewhere else like Steam. I could accept someone buying it on Steam and then downloading it to their Switch in that case, but then at least some dues were being paid, even in a roundabout manner.
      And to bat aside potential responses, I chose Octopath because it’s a game where I’ve never heard any controversy around its developmental or publishing practices such as another case I know of like Nier; Automata with its excessively buggy launch state, or a game like FO: 76 with its horrible bugs combined with a predatory and unnecessary microtransaction system. Those have their own discussions, I felt like Octopath sits in a comfy place to use as a case study or case example or whatever.

  • @Bransbow
    @Bransbow ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Just watching the intro, would you consider making a compilation video of all the Arlos' adventures throughout the multiverse?

  • @evedigga
    @evedigga ปีที่แล้ว

    Arlo thanks for the video....I subscribed when I saw that metroid on the desk!

  • @megamocha2334
    @megamocha2334 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am really really really hoping we’ll soon get to see an “Arlo is blown away by everything his modded 3DS can do and how amazing it is” video

  • @Soumein
    @Soumein ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have to admit that even though I have 0 interest in NSO, if I did have it, I would probably try some of them. Hope some of them can make a comeback, either through NSO, the shop, or preferably both.

  • @KingRidley
    @KingRidley ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Arlo nailed it about emulating games at the end.
    I've got my steam deck and PC. I'm going to download roms of these games I've paid for (some I've paid for multiple times). I'm going to establish a nice little permanent library for myself for my DS and 3DS, because I can't pay for those games anymore. Even though I honestly would, if I could.
    Also because increasing the resolution of those games makes them look incredible, holy cow.

  • @GhostGirlBlues
    @GhostGirlBlues ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i loved kirby's epic yarn, but i didn't even know kirby's extra epic yarn existed until now

  • @TurnaboutAdam
    @TurnaboutAdam ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So… Arlos are able to breathe in space? This is insane lore.

    • @mr.awesome6011
      @mr.awesome6011 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's been in space plenty of times during Pikmin and Metroid videos

  • @LillyP-xs5qe
    @LillyP-xs5qe ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I modded my new3DS, and I can confirm, it's very easy and safe, follow the guides carefully

  • @joshuakolton9955
    @joshuakolton9955 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    That's the big thing that frustrates me about Nintendo: they don't seem to care about people wanting to play their older games. They just memory hole them and say too bad you're gonna have to find what you're looking for on eBay.

  • @goatmagnum
    @goatmagnum ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This just makes me want more Arlo videos where he interacts with stuff.
    Something about him dusting off the Wii U gamepad was oddly nice to watch.
    Then again. I'm just a fan of puppetry.

  • @richardmagel4247
    @richardmagel4247 ปีที่แล้ว

    Arlo. The only channel whose ad read I don’t skip.

  • @JETEP3
    @JETEP3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    9:00 Nintendo gave you the opportunity to care. They gave you 10+ years to care. They gave you platforms to support and try out.
    You all were pushing the Wii U and 3DS out the door on MULTIPLE occasions before and during the Switch. Why should they speak on a past system when all their focus is on the current system?
    Does it stink that the shops closed? Yes. But giving the impression that Nintendo should say something on this beyond the year-long notice that the stores were closing? Nope. Can't go along with that.

  • @ethanmcentyre2294
    @ethanmcentyre2294 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Let's all rage one final time to deter the impending sadness soon to wash over us

  • @CrasherLIX
    @CrasherLIX ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hopefully they integrate all the eshop systems together so that they can be supported simultaniously. Also, second screen for switch 2.

    • @bobpotato1231
      @bobpotato1231 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      switch 2 dont need a second screen to run DS games. Just have it stream to the dock, like a reverse Wii U. There you go, dual screens. It would only require either a cheap receiver added to the dock or a separately sold $10 dongle.

    • @CrasherLIX
      @CrasherLIX ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bobpotato1231 That is actually what I was thinking of. I was thinking more of a dock that actually has its own componenents that can power up the switch 2 when docked, and run games by itself (maybe). Then you do the streaming thing. But that would make those type of games be specific to docked gameplay. Maybe a optional screen accesory could be used for on the go, or even a way to use your phone as a second screen

  • @KaelTheAdventurer
    @KaelTheAdventurer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "You *can't* steal an item from a store that *doesn't* sell that item; it's not possible."
    ~Arlo, 13:21
    Easily my favorite quote of the video, will definitely be using that going forward.

  • @MiniBeas
    @MiniBeas ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It could be classified as abandonware and I know The Completionist downloaded all the games and is donating them to video game archive.

  • @timcroft9223
    @timcroft9223 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    aww, that's a shame, the option to extend the seafaring metaphor was there "it's not piracy, its salvage"
    good video, like always

  • @beaa4942
    @beaa4942 ปีที่แล้ว

    out of topic here but it's amazing how you are able to make that puppet feel totally alive, the moment you cover up the wii u was so natural (min 12:13) jajajaja

  • @suicunesolsan
    @suicunesolsan ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This bothered me quite a bit more than I thought. I perused the eShop one last time and discovered Radiant Historia had a demo. I downloaded it and played it. Decided to try to buy in the last hour. Couldn't figure out how to add funds. Then it was too late.

    • @MadMaxxed1224
      @MadMaxxed1224 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Time to mod 🥳

    • @shanelawrence7438
      @shanelawrence7438 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      GET THE GAME GET THE GAME GET THE GAME, PLEASE, I BEG OF YOU. GET IT OFF EBAY IF YOU MUST. GET, THE, GAME.

  • @ToxikDnB544
    @ToxikDnB544 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Arlo: “I’m gonna have to pirate it!”
    Everyone else: “first time?”

  • @deltalord6969
    @deltalord6969 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    R.i.P to all the people who didnt download pokebank before it closed

    • @however-i-disagree
      @however-i-disagree ปีที่แล้ว

      and RIP to the ones who didn't realize you had to download poketransporter separately

    • @blue-ki5ip
      @blue-ki5ip ปีที่แล้ว +12

      modding your 3ds is always on the table

    • @Klonoahedgehog
      @Klonoahedgehog ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Righteous 2k The thing that lets you transfer pokemon from the old 3DS/DS Pokemon games to the Switch ones.
      Not that it matters since some Pokemon cant go to the Switch games to begin with due to dexit.

    • @digidrveKJ
      @digidrveKJ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Klonoahedgehog yeah but having a living dex and also having a large space to keep your mons is nice but even then most people keep shinies and and main Pokémon on the game they got them on

    • @CruxisAngel954
      @CruxisAngel954 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Klonoahedgehog this. Dexit basically made all your Pokémon hostage on home. You’ll never have a single game where you can safely transfer all your Pokémon. Gamefreak found a dirty way to make you a subscriber for life

  • @therealtony5
    @therealtony5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They’re just doing the Disney strategy like closing, and opening the vault over and over so that way they can cash in each time the vault opens like look at that little Mario collection that released for a limited time for a couple of months like I think it was last year or the year before for the switch and then they just stopped a perfect example of opening the vault and then shortly after closing it.

    • @TheLarkaanimation
      @TheLarkaanimation ปีที่แล้ว

      At this point, Microsoft is doing a better job at game preservation than Nintendo. Not only are they making Xbox 360 games backwards compatible with Xbox X/S, but also original Xbox games as well. Just pop in a physical copy, and the system will install the compatible version. When your physical game breaks, just buy the digital version. Nothing about Kinect yet. Looks like that died in 2017.

  • @generalcjg
    @generalcjg ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:30 It's ironic, Nintendo tried to shutdown Another Metroid 2 Remake because they were making their own Metroid 2 remake and didn't want the free Metroid 2 remake to overshadow their official remake, so they blocked AM2R's creator from uploading and updating his fanmade remake; now fastforward to today, and Nintendo's own Metroid 2 remake (Metroid: Samus Returns) is no longer being updated and sold on any official capacity, and is stuck on the Nintendo 3DS.
    So much for Nintendo trying to take down AM2R in favor of them selling Metroid: Samus Returns.

  • @imperatorcaesar754
    @imperatorcaesar754 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "If they refuse to let you buy, then piracy you shall try" - Captain Oogway

  • @DoMorrMusic
    @DoMorrMusic ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Jirard is a chad for buying every single eshop game.

  • @Sponsie1000
    @Sponsie1000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    l'm glad arlo spoke at lengths about emulating 3ds games, because it really Does just make sense to do in this scenario. There's still a demand for those games but nintendo explicitly told us they dont want to be part of that market anymore, leaving us with emulation as the most viable option.
    Even if they get mad/sad about us emulating, maybe it'll get them to not take down the online stores in the future,, thats on them not on us. It kinda feels like how workers can only benefit from breaking through the "dont discuss salaries with co-workers" taboo, if we have options to empower ourselves as consumers we should embrace those with open arms!

  • @rufust33333333333333
    @rufust33333333333333 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Arlo don’t forget that Nintendo also just closed the dsi shop too

  • @child8669
    @child8669 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    that's why you need to mod your 3ds

  • @Mastergamer44
    @Mastergamer44 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    People seem to forget that these are the last Virtual Console systems and that when the Switch dies out all your subscription based games will be lost and will never be able to be bought legally again since you'll always be in some sort of subscription base system just to play old games, Nintendo has made sure that this is how they want to preserve their old legacy games, not by buying them for yourself but instead through a means of a money based system with preservation being handled by them and choosing what gets to be put into said system.

    • @ulawan5
      @ulawan5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      With a subscription we don't OWN anything, and the right to use it becomes a privilege they can take away at any time, it's horrifying and dystopian when you look at the model in the grand scheme
      (edit: spelling)

  • @SebsFinTechChannel
    @SebsFinTechChannel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is that game at 16:12? I know i saw the trailer for it a while ago and wanted to get it but now I've completely forgotten what it was called!

  • @Under_Sky_Third_Gaia
    @Under_Sky_Third_Gaia ปีที่แล้ว

    This video sure helps with the space madness.

  • @TheNuts1225
    @TheNuts1225 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The thing about emulation is that emulators are a pain in the butt to use a lot of the time (especially when you get into disc based consoles) and sometimes they don't work properly or you'll have to use different settings for each game you play. So, I feel like most people want to play on official hardware, it's Nintendo that doesn't.

    • @greengreens6347
      @greengreens6347 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wanna find good emulators and roms that arent viruses.

    • @lpnp9477
      @lpnp9477 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is this you telling us you haven't used an emulator in 15 years without telling us you haven't used and emulator in 15 years

    • @TheNuts1225
      @TheNuts1225 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lpnp9477 i have and they suck. Especially ds and ps1 emulators.

    • @acronym.4328
      @acronym.4328 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@TheNuts1225 My brother in Christ, *Duckstation.*

  • @staroutofspace4986
    @staroutofspace4986 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think the argument that it's difficult to maintain the legacy digital stores loses a lot of its weight when we remember that Sony was successfuly bullied into keeping up the PS3 store and Microsoft has never once announced plans to shutter the 360 store. To be fair, those storefronts have games that can download to modern consoles.

    • @zjzr08
      @zjzr08 ปีที่แล้ว

      I keep on thinking surely they can upgrade to newer architectures and update the store apps too to patch security issues right?

  • @oldoutlet6946
    @oldoutlet6946 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's so weird to think that the DS era is now officially dead. I grew up with DS, DS Lite, DSi, and 3DS. I even still play on my 3DS XL sometimes and it feels like yesterday when I first got it and tried Face Raiders or watched Bear Shark on 3DS Video.
    By the time I get kids, those will be their first game consoles. Dead or not.

  • @awesomeocelot7475
    @awesomeocelot7475 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The 3DS eshop shutting down feels even worse then the Wii U one since the 3DS was only discontinued less then 3 years ago….

  • @patknack7368
    @patknack7368 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel that there could have been a happy medium. Any third party games for the systems going away is understandable since there are licensing fees and all that. But, if they're going to have servers to allow you redownload games, why can't they all their first party games to continue being sold on their website that can be updated and have it connect to your systems to download. That would have been better than everything disappearing. However, I'm also not a part of the game industry, so maybe that wasn't possible for some reason.

  • @LuprinaWolf
    @LuprinaWolf ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am surprised to see Arlo's wii u dusty. That's the best way to play pikmin 3, right there

  • @cal7447
    @cal7447 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Side tangent and I'm sorry but that angry Arlo in the thumbnail looks SO DAMN CUTE for some reason. Those brows. The jaws. Everything. It's so cute I kind of wish he'd get angry more often

  • @lexan6264
    @lexan6264 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ooo, he had a sick day. I was wondering what happen. 2 weeks without Arlo is a lot. I'm so happy his back ❤

    • @ultimatebreak827
      @ultimatebreak827 ปีที่แล้ว

      me too I love when he uploads multiple times a week!

  • @notcarbuncle1493
    @notcarbuncle1493 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Never seen arlo look this mad

  • @FrostyTheClown
    @FrostyTheClown ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Don't worry. There will always be a way to access these games from people who actually care about preserving them. The 3DS (and its games) will never die, no thanks to Nintendo.

  • @tonycliftonLV69
    @tonycliftonLV69 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Captain Arlo bravely sails the seven seas!!!