They're not somehow closer to "Ancient Greek" than the Greek of Greece. It's just a non-standardized dialect that evolved parallel to the varieties of Greece & Cyprus.
I'm from Türkiye and this is so very interesting. Black Sea folks should definitely keep the Pontic language alive and pass it to new generations. Kudos to young people who still speak it 👏👏👏 That history is too valuable and rich to go extinct.
I am very shocked and sad that these people are somehow afraid of talking in their native language and that there is almost no attempt made to protect Pontic Greek - I think that the younger generation is not even knowing a single word! They must teach them their identity it is nothing to be ashamed of! On the Aegean region of Turkey, for example in Ayvalık, you can here Greek music in Turkish owned shops and restaurants - but almost all of the Greeks had to leave the city due to the population exchange and the wars. This extreme nationalism and racism is a sickness 😢🇬🇷🇹🇷
@@ub3rfr3nzy94 I hope that you can visit Ayvali soon and see all the Greek heritage sites there 😊 you're always welcome 🙏 From Lesvos, there are daily cruises in the summer to Ayvali
@@borninthesnowynight2583 Mazide yaşanmış olan bir çok kötü hadise var - ama bir okadarda güzel şeylerde vardı. Neden bugün yaşayan insanlar eskilerin kötülüklerinin bedelini ödemeli, veya nefret neden hala devam etmeli? Nefret ve düşmanlık onca şeyı yakıp yıkmış ve mahvetmişken tekrar aynı şeyler yaşanmamalı. Hem ecdadlarının geldiği yerleri görmek istemeleri çok güzel bence, benim anne tarafından da muhacirler var göçmek zorunda kalan. Bizde gidip o yerleri görmek istiyoruz elbette. Hem insanlar onca asır birlikte yaşamışlar, Peygamber efendimiz sav.de aksini öğretmemiş. 😊 selamlar ve hayırlı bayramlar 🌹
@@TheVolkan928 Malesef hümanist bir dünya yok. 1821 yılında mora yarim arasında bir günde tam 40 bin insan 2 aylik bebeklere kadar işkence ettirilerek öldürüldü. Uydurma diye araştırdım bizzat o dönemde o bölgede yaşayan fransız ingiliz devlet görevlilerinin günlüklerinde yazışmalarında okudum. Öyle satırlar var ki Cengizhan bile o kadar zalim değildi. Yunan ordusu izmire çıktığında insanlarin 40 yillik komşularına yaptıklarını duyunca aklını yitirirsin camilere doldurulup canlı canlı.yakilan insanlar karnı dedilen hamile kadınlar....... Savaştan sonra yapacak bir şey kalmamıştı. Eğer onlar bu topraklarda Türkler yunanistanda yasamaya devam etseydi intikam hırsıyla yanan insanlar aklından geçiremeyeceğim şeyler yapardı. O sebeple Lozanda üzerinde en cok durulan olmazsa olmaz konulardan birisi mübadele idi. Gelelim bugüne toplumsal hafıza asla silinmez bunu eğitim sistemi de destekler. Yunanistanda okul kitaplarında oluşturulan Türk imajı tam bir dudağı yerde bir dudağı gökte kanla.beslenen bir canavar durumunda iken onlardaki kin bitmez. Bizde genelde bu durum derslerde hızla geçiştirilir mora katliamı desen kimse bilmez Osmanlı rus savaşında balkanlarda yapılan Türk soykırımı ve sürgünü desen kimse bilmez (Tüm balkanların nüfusunun yarısı Türk idi) Bugün sınırları kaldırdık herkes istediği yere yerleşsin desen cehaletin sadık efendisi emperyalizm boş durmaz 10 sene sonra ayni vido başa sarar.
My mother's side (from Zonguldak/Filyos) is known to have Greek ancestry tracing back all the way to Rum Mehmed Pasha. On my recent DNA test, I found out that I am 30% Greek (Cappadocia and Crimea according to gedmatch). Ever since I have started to do more research and got interested in my lost heritage.
Proud of my Pontian Greek ancestry (Trabzon from my father's side, Samsun from my mother's). As for the people living in Pontus today, there are lots of them that actually have Pontian Greek roots and I consider them as my siblings, we belong to the same race, even if they are Muslim. I hope and pray that someday things change and these people be able to express their cultural identity freely, without fear from the Turkish state oppression. Herkese selamlar. Şeretias. Bola ağapume sas.
Hello my brother.Greetings from mother land.I want to ask you if you know.Which (at the moment) turkish breed of dogs are from Pontos?Which of them is Greek?Maybe you know
It amazing that despite everything there are still people speaking this language. I come from a region of south of Italy that has been historically "greek", I took a DNA test and I'm 67% ethnically greek, but unfortunately in my area the language is lost: still few little communities exist.
Sei Calabrese della Bovesia e della Locride ( Rc)? Quindi parleresti del "griko". Ci sono interessanti video che illustrano i paesini in cui resiste tenacemente , addirittura hanno aperto corsi di lingua ( i punti di referenza sono i vecchi che la parlano ancora) e fatto gemellaggio con la Grecia. Li ho visti tempo fa. Anzi un'occasione per rivederli. Saluti da Napoli ( antica città greca, fondata da Cuma, pochi kilometri distante [.comune di Pozzuoli, zona dei Campi Flegrei] . Cuma , dove sotto l'accollo, si trova la grotta della famosa profetessa Sibilla Cumana, è la più antica città di fondazione greca in Europa Occidentale. Prima della colonizzazione della Sicilia , Calabria etc.❤❤
I am sending greetings to my greek race colleagues from Trabzon. Greece must protect our rights. We are Greeks from Pontus. You should increase your support to us more. It is very sad that the Pontusians living in Turkey are assimilating.
Greece is simply not a free state. Hasn't been for millenias, sadly enough. We too here in mainland Greece are no better, slowly rotting from the inside, straying away from our ancestors. I wish someday it will change and maybe, just maybe, the greek lands ( Ionia, Pontus, Cyprus, Northen Epirus etc ) will have strong bonds and be protected by mainland Greece or finally be made autonomous.
@@BeChannel1234 If you consider a filthy company of alien powers, in which every decisition must go through them first and then be executed, while also this same joke of a "state" is "ruled" not by people of the enslaved and slowly genocided nation, of course, but by men and women of, at least, questionable descendance, who do not under any circumstances care about the plethos, the mob, the uncultured crowd, these "foolish commoners", to be a free state, then indeed, my friend, you may be correct. Under those parametrs, Greece could be called an independent country. It is quite easy to deceive the imbeciles, either with empty and pompous words, or by means of pleasure and delegacy, or maybe with fear and anger. Last but not least, they use the delusion of certainty and "knowledge" on us. Today the demos has no sthenos.
All my ancestors come from Αργυρούπολη / Gümüşhane. Very proud of my Pontian Greek ancestry! I've been to Pontos 3 times, the most beautiful place I've ever visited.
@@yirmialt2960 Kocadal (Δέρενα) and Manastir. The ones from Kocadal (the original name was Δέρενα/ Deraina) moved from Derena to Abdurrahmanlı in Akdağmadeni.
@@olgaath1511 Dear Olga ... everbody say somethınk eversıde say somethınk please don t be enemy and don t be far ... tıme 2022 ... ... one day in Gümüşhane my car stoped ... ı looked to around ... was nt anybody ... but ı saw that ... 3 vılıage ... Armanıa Greek Azeri ... ... Greek s wanted wıth gerılla Armanıa ns wanted Fedai ... Turks Kurd s Arabıa ... ... vıllıage s stıll there ... and they waıt who love them ... Home only belong to lover ... ... don t be enemy ...
Hey your videos are interesting for me. I study English language in university and I wanna learn Greec language, so I have tried to tell all people we have the same cultural experiences. My hometown is şebinkarahisar which had many Pontus greeks I ll really continue lost language with master degree. Your videos are awesome thank you
I'll visit Şebinkarahisar this summer for having videos and İf I can I wan to find some people who speak Pontiaka (Romeika)... th-cam.com/play/PLkF8gG7wgb0DKmLxPyhfA1ESl2b1u4Jam.html
The home town of my family is also Sebinkarahisar. They named it Garasari. In a village in Northern Greece are settled a lot of Greek people who came from Sebinkarahisar in 1922-1924
So fascinating. My grandparents were from Amisos (now Samsun) in Pontus. I was always curious what was left of the community in Turkey. These videos give me a flavor of what it is like there today.
I was curious too. I learned a lot. Basically, identity formation, especially in Turkey over the last 1,000 years, is complicated and still an emotional topic
@@tom_traveler Apparently not all Greeks in Pontus spoke the Pontic dialect, even before the population exchange. My grandparents spoke Modern Greek and Turkish. My grandfather also spoke French having gone to a French Academy in Pontus. It apparently varied by community and education.
@@jack417k In the second half of the 19th century many international schools opened in the Pontus. Especially in Trabzon. About half a dozen French schools, a number of Italians schools, a Persian school, an American school... Most of the students were local Greeks, Armenians and Turks, all of whom could have attended one of the many schools of their own community. But just as today, international schools were seen as more prestigious. Not that most could afford it, probably... There were also a number of orphanages I believe. Oh and I forgot to mention one important aspect that may explain why your grandparents didn't speak Pontic. Greek schools of Pontus taught Modern Greek, not Pontic Greek! That is also the reason why the Pontic Greek of the muslims has remained more archaic, while that of christians has been moving closer to Modern Greek since even before the population exchange!
This language(dialect) is easily understandable For Greeks (non pontic speakers) Who lived in Central Greece (Rumeli) Village areas. Give an example : The Word -Γροικώ (ğrıko) = understand Is used in Central Greece and as I know also on Crete, Cyprus and maybe in Other areas (don't know)! The Word τερώ (tero) = looking or Look after or watching (modern greek: κοιτάζω or κοιτάω) , is using in Central Greece Village areas as -τηράω (tirao).... In modern greek the Word is only used as a combine Word : παρατηρώ. If you speak a local greek dialect and you Thinking a little about what you hear, you can understand, without having any grammatical knowing. Look, the language is speaking today in Greece (Television) is Not originally this what was speaking from our grandparents. This is the New athenian "Chinese" , but they call us derogatory, mountain Village people. Look, languages naturaly evolve and brings people toghether! It is weird that younger greek people cannot understand a dialect of Their own language but understand easily English(a strange language to us) If it goes Forward Like this, in a Few years people in Greece will speak a English Greek mixture language and later only the New creating (from linguistic "Experts") World language Very sad!!!! Look at big City-town-people in Greece Europe American Africa Asia today ... You See any difference in their "culture"? Me , No! They speaking about History ,but all they know is what they was taught in "Shool" People don't know when and how to sow and earn a 🍅 ...Eating only Hybrids and watching Hollywood movies. Look at younger people today, all they Thinking about is big Cars, Money(colored Papier), Sex and Rock&Roll. You See 50-60 yeas old people acting Like "Kids" Sorry, this is soooo sad!
@@olbiomoiros Οι λεξεις αυτες υπαρχουν στην Ποντιακη διαλεκτο αλλα εδω στην Ελλαδα εχουμε χασει την διαλεκτο μας γιατι δεν ειμαστε ολοι σε μια περιοχη εχουμε αναμειχθει με ολες τις ρατσες στην Ελλαδα πηγαμε στο σχολειο διαδαχθηκαμε την Νεοελληνικη γλωσσα και να σας πως και κατι που μου ελεγε η μαμα μου η οποια ζουσε σε χωριο της Μακεδονιας μεχρι που τελειωσε το Δημοτικο σχολειο. Στο χωριο μιλουσανε Ποντιακα και στο σπιτι αλλα στο Σχολειο δεν τους επιτρεπανε τωρα η Ποντιακη γλωσσα μπορει να σωθει μονο στην Μακεδονια που υπαρχει συμπαγης Ποντιακος πληθυσμος αυτα για να ξερουν οι νεωτεροι
There is no proof for you statement that these people are greeks, altough it would be very possible that a part of them are indeed ethnically greek. Greek language was obviously the dominant language in that area (We come from Surmene-Trabzon-Caykara), and even today, in our villlage people speak still Romeyka. Nevertheless, we should not forget that Pontus was a isolated, initial greek area which was later invaded by many other ethnicities such as Turks but also Armenians. Thereby, it is very difficult to mark all these people as Greek.
@@stealthman8666 My family is from Çaykara, and DNA tests show 40% Greek-South Italian. And our family history in the area goes back at least three centuries. So yeah, we are partly Greek.
@@tuiretuinen I'm from Izmir got %50 Greek %7 Southern Italian with following Turkic/Georgian. But no one speaks Romeika in my family, we know there are some Muslim Rums in a village Inner Anatolia at Yozgat where my grandfather is from were living and speaking but they immigrated to US New Jersey for economic reasons. What i heard it was very widely spoken in past, no one were call themselves Greek/Turk it was known as Rum(Muslim/Christian) these are the words of the elders. There were even Armenians but they have deported after burning a farm (by the Tashnaks), during Russo-Turk WW1 before the population exchanges between Turkish/Greek government. Old says the one's we know became enemy all sudden, nationalism idea made our people divided.
I got here after reading about Mithridates (many of them) the Pontic Empire, the Empire of Trebizond and Apolas Lermi. Such a fascinating variant of Ancient Greek. It must be preserved!
You should come to Rize too. I am from Pazar which we call Atina ( Athens) there are some Romeika speakers in Rize too. I am a pharmacist so because of my education I know some classic greek and latin and I can tell you that Rize Romeika is much more different than the Trabzon one I always think this is because maybe different Greek tribes settled the cities.
Are you talking about the mountain villages in the western part of Ikizdere district, which are dialectically more close to Çaykara? This video was recorded in Tonya I believe, which lies to the west of Trabzon and has a different dialect (Tom posted another video where he talks to Çaykarali's). Or are there other places in Rize province where Romeika is still spoken? This would be new to me. I am very much interested, because Vahit Tursun, creator of the Romeika-Turkish dictionary (he is from Çaykara) stated in interviews recently that he had difficulty finding Romeika speakers in Rize. Are there Romeika speakers still in Atina? I thought It had been 'Lazified' already in the early 19th century?
@@fallenstate5933 Greek used to be spoken all the way east to Pazar (Atina). During the 18th and 19th centuries, Greek language and remaining christians were persecuted by muslim "Turko-Laz" and other Caucasian groups. A kind of reverse Hellenization. If you are interested in the history of the area I recommend the book 'A Nation of Empire' by Michael Meeker.
@@i.k.8868 Laz people were Hellenized in the first place, you're correct in that one. Kartvelians didn't enjoy their own millet system and fell under either Greek or Armenian millets if they wanted to remain Christian so assimilated into these cultures over centuries, some preserved their culture just because they converted to Islam. Many Turks also adopted the identity of a "Laz" because the area was called "Lazistan" but they weren't really Laz and for sure didn't really speak the language. Pontic Greek language might have been spoken as a second language in Rize area, true, especially if we consider that Laz were integral part of Trebizond empire and they would speak the state language, but they would just switch from Greek to Turkish because of changing language of state and commerce, so no, Greek language was not persecuted, if any language was and is persecuted till this day, it is Laz language. East of Trebizond has always been historical Laz land and even west of Trebizond some Laz people still lived in rural areas.
When the Turks from Central Asia came to Anatolia 1071 ad. the population of Asia Minor (which was in his majority Greek, was 3.000.000 people). The Turks that invaded Asia Minor were only 400.000. So you can see that modern Turks are a mixture of Greeks (who assimilated with force to the tinting culture), some real central asiatic Turks and a majority of Greek/Turkish/Persian mixture of people.
Where do you get that number of 400.000? Turks kept migrating to anatolia as it got more Turkified and it became safer. "Turks are greek blah blah blah you people never shut up. It is the other way around. Since you are supposed to be white greeks and us the brown Turks, I expect you to be white. I've visited greece and travelled around it for 3 weeks, visited islands and remote villages and my friend you people are brown. I've seen it. Unlike you pulling out some bullshit out of your ass.
@@alsan2812 They are estimates, I've seen similar numbers before. But the Turkish settlers were a minority and mixed with the local Byzantine Greeks to form the Turks we have today. It is a myth that they pushed out and replaced the locals.
@@ub3rfr3nzy94 There’s no myth. The Turkic migration of Anatolia is a s real as it gets, these Pontic “Greeks” aren’t even genetically ancient Greek they’re Hellenized Caucasians deemed Greeks, Turks on the contrary carry 32% Medieval Turkic heritage, the Turkic migrations were enough to change the genetic profile of the region, Greek hag. The one and only myth is the Greek migration to Anatolia.
So very interesting. I’m American and bilingual in Spanish so some of the words in Greek are similar probably from common root words. I’m also of some Greek ancestry myself but so far back it doesn’t show in my DNA results. It is through both of my parents. We have been able to take it to the late Byzantine period and know the family was mostly from Anatolia originally from the Pontic region and Cappadocia. There is also quite a bit of Armenian and one line to Thebes in Greece. It’s all new to me as I didn’t grow up in the Greek culture and it was not really known by my family until our research led that direction.
So, when you talk about "Greek culture", Pontians and people of Greece have very different cultures. Like Brits and Americans, but separated by more centuries. There's a shared language, but that's it. Also, Pontians are natives of their area who were hellenized during Hellenistic, Roman, and East Roman Rule, and have no genetic connection to Peninsular/Ionian/Aegean Greeks. Again, think Brits and Americans. Lastly, the reason there are many shared words between Greek and Spanish is because Ancient Greek and Latin have borrowed heavily from each other, and Spanish is a modern variant of Latin. Additionally, in the Late Middle Ages and Early Modern period, Greek also adopted quite a few Venetian Italian words, many of which have cognates in Spanish, since both Spanish and Italian (and dialects) are descended from Latin.
I am really happy that Pontic culture is still somehow preserved after all the difficulties over centuries due to Turkish oppression that is still a problem.
talking about turkish oppression while the Turks in west Thrace till this day cant use the word turk as ethnicity and if they had left Greece to study or work abroad they were never ever allowed to come back.
@Rock John You live in a different reality. Turks in Greece are not oppressed. Moreover, at least Greece kept Turkish minority in the country as the treaty said and not expelled them. It is interesting to see how the Greek population in Constantinople went over the last decades and you will understand what I say.
@Rock John There are many unofficial ones. There is an official one as well named Votanikos mosque. Thus, your statement is not true. It is very funny that you insist about that, while Turkish government has turned Hagia Sophia, a holy Christian church, to a mosque. Don't you find this hypocritical?
Pontic Greek is a more true representation of the Greek language in its ancient form. Modern Greek has simplified it, whereas in its true form the word explains its meaning much more. Of course the Poniatiko language is only in basic form but it is still a closer offshoot to the orthodox Greek.
The power to assimilate into the mainstream national identity is difficult to resist. I believe such pressure also exists in Greece where speaking Pontic Greek was frown upon. Even these days modern youths prefer the urbanised Greek rather than their rural speech. As for the Griko community in Italy . Despite legislation to protect , it may not survive. In France minority langauges are almost extint like Occitan.
Όλοι οι πόντιοι στην Ελλάδα μιλούν τα ποντιακά και δεν υπάρχει καμία πίεση, που το είδες αυτο; οποίος νεοέλληνας διαβάσει η προσέξει ν ακούσει, θα τα καταλάβει.
I am Turkish but living in Germany and I somewhat understand the feeling of cultural pressure to assimilate. It's not as bad as in 1920's-2000 Turkey but I got a little glimpse on how it must have been. I think we really need to protect ALL our languages.
Σε καμία χώρα που φιλοξενεί κάποιες διαφορετικές εθνότητες δεν είναι ευχάριστο οι φιλοξενούμενοι να μην μιλούν την γλώσσα της !στην Γερμανία μετανάστες από την Τουρκία την Ελλάδα την Βουλγαρία την Ιταλία την Σερβία την Πολωνία για εργασία δεν ζούσαν εκεί από χιλιάδες χρόνια και να την κατακτήσουν ώστε να θεωρούνται καταπιεστές όταν ζητάνε να μιλάς την γλώσσα τους τουλάχιστον στην δημόσια ζωή σου!Μοιάζει λίγο με ασέβεια!είναι σαν να φιλοξενείς κάποιον στο σπίτι σου και αυτός μιλάει άλλη γλώσσα με σα σαυτό 8:32 με τους δικούς! Θυμάμαι τους Αλβανούς όταν ήρθαν στην Ελλάδα και έλεγαν στα παιδιά τους να μιλάνε Ελληνικά μεταξύ τους ακόμα και στον δρόμο από σεβασμό!μου το έχουν πει φίλοι μου Αλβανοί!μου έκανε φοβερή εντύπωση η ευγένεια τους!οι Γερμανοί δεν μιλάνε εύκολα ούτε Αγγλικά στη χώρα τους ακόμα και αν ξέρουν για να σε εξυπηρετήσουν!εκτός από σταθμούς και αεροδρόμια!
The World needs to know: 1. For millennia all coasts North, West and South, of what is modern Turkey, were populated by greek speaking people. From before Christ times (800 BC) up until the 20th century AD. 2. The Greek roots never unrooted. In classical times, they were there, in Roman times they were there, in Christian Roman Empire they were there, in Ottoman Empire they were there. 3. None of the above mentioned Empires ever planed to take a huge population of Greeks and send them somewhere else. Estimated numbers are about 20.000.000 4. For reasons that are not here discused, the Greek State lost a war with Turkey in 1922. 5. It was agreed that all muslims from Greece and same number of christians from Turkey would be exchanged. 6. Many Christians Greeks from Turkey to avoid been deported and lose everything they had, they simply changed religion and their names, so they could stay in their homeland. The number exchanged was about 1.000.000 from each side. Meaning that the Greek majority still lives in Turkey undercover. 7. You can change religion, name, even language. But you cannot change your DNA. 8. That is why many modern Turks are surprised after having a DNA test, witch uncovers the truth, even if said truth never was told them by their parents. Thanks for reading this.
Conversion of Pontic greeks to Islam did not occur during population exchange, rather around 17th century. The current DNA tests clearly show differences between population from Pontus and Anatolian Turks. In the majority of Trabzon, majority of the population does not have any Eurasian genetic material, whilst other regions in Turkey clearly shows a certain amount of Eurasian component in their admixture.
@@alsan2812 Apparently you: a) was not yet born/ alive in 1923 b) you don't know that conversion to islam is the fastest procedure in the world. You just say the sahada (no god but Allah and his prophet..... etc), and you are Muslim. Brother amongst brothers and nobody touches you. c) you don't have any family deported under the agreement as Christians or stayed as Muslims. d) Hundreds of Turks citizens travel to Greece to find their separated relatives (2nd and 3rd cousins) among Greek citizens. Their testimonies can be found on TH-cam, while most of them prefer not to publicize for obvious reasons. e) external characteristics of persons are not validating their ancestral origin in modern times. We don't measure noses ears or heads as scientists did in 1850. Today molecular biology and analysis give all the answers. Conclusion: Anything can be hidden or not discussed, but the blood tests.
@@cambaz3861 I buy one white chicken. After 10 years I have 40 white chickens and 10 brown. You are one person. A theory cannot be based one one person. Otherwise we would ask Emine who wants to be next president and save the money of the elections 😂😂😂
@@iggo45 you are sayin majority in your statement above that’s the reason why I replied. I know a large group of people doing those tests and it’s not like 100% but some have 10-15 % Greek genetics etc. it’s the same for modern Greeks they can have Turkish DNA due to long Occupation. I don’t mind all of this, but if you speaking from majority like above it’s simply not realistic
I am Sarakatsan and our dialect have many ancient Greek words f.e νογάω=νούς και άγω =καταλαβαίνω-αντιλαμβάνομαι=Ι understand. Άστε μας =άστε ημάς =πάμε=lets go e.t.c
you should have talked with either people from Macuka /Pondila or Tonia/Skantaranton th-cam.com/video/-SRHZYuwSE8/w-d-xo.html Έλα έλα λεγο σε Λεγο σε τίνος είσαι Με τ’εμεν λες και γελάς Με τ’ιναν στροντς κεισε Come come telling you Telling you of whose are you With me you say and laugh With whom in the bed sleeping Το ράσι χιονιετε Κρύουν ιλον λιενετε Το εμον η σεβταλιτσα’μ Σο χορον’ εβριετε On the hill has snowed The sun hit to melt it That My lovely of mine In circle dance turns Έρθα απαν σο ρασι Έτερεσα αενκε κα Παρακαλο σε κοριτς Ας καίμε σε σεν εμκε κα Arrived up on the hill That have looked down Begging you girl Ι Lets sleep down there Ε κόντεσα κοντεσα Τα τερτια’αμ αμον τ’εσα Να Πάρο σε και πάγο Είσαι πολα μηκρέσα E Sparrow Sparrow My sorrow much like you I ll take you and go You are much little Λαλι ο πλούτον λαλι Χενα και χιρα τα κλαδ απαν Ο ρεπις ας περ τιν ψσίχ´μ Σα άσπρος τον κερταν απαν Calling the Coocko calling Upon strange and dry branch May God take my soul as On white necked upwards Τ’εκει ποτάμ τ’αδα ποταμ Σιμες εν το χαμελετεν Κλεφτομεν έναν κοριτς Τον κάνανε μι λέιτεν Up there brook all over brook In the middle is the water mill We will steal a girl Of which noone mention Ηαεν κα το οσπιτοπον εκει κα η Θέμονα Εγο πολα αγαοπατεν εγιννε λει με ακα Which down small house of hers and the grass mass I love her that much and she calls me ‘brother’ senior Ψηλά ψηλά τσα τσοπα λευτοκαρη καντσοπα Εγο και με’τεγιννα να κομπονο τα κορτσοπα High high branch sticks and hazernut cuneisticks And with those I will combine the little girls Στιν Κεμεντσενς το καπάκ Αμον τον καρακαμπαν Τι σεβταλησι’μ το όνομαν Γραμμένουν ε εκει απαν On lyra that coverbox İs like the blackcatch Τhe name of my lover Written there upon Αψον το ξονον αψον Καψον τα χηλα καψον Ας τιν πορταν ανοιχτον Κ’ερχεμενονς τι μάνας καψον Spark the fire Sparkle Catch it with the Woods Let the door open Whoever not arrived catch it his moms Αποικεν η αεβταλιν με τα πράσα μαλαχτα Αντα κρουγο σε με πορταν ανοιχσο με γελαχδα Made for me my lovely the green veggies steamed When I knock on the door let me in with smilley
feels good to be able to understand the pontic more while reading it.it gives hope. hearing it and understanding is a hard step to take. thanks for the song.
@@newreast3904 thanoun sin anatolia exoume pola deve(camel) ato psema ouk en atora sin aitin /mentese exoun kai trogoun me ta sucukia. ta nomada. kai gia peksoun me ata to kuires (camel wrestling). omorfo to tragodi me pola xarismata. camel means- in fortune telling the kısmet and zenginloukia.
@@olgaath1511 Yeah and still support the nationalist movements of turkey, opening of Hagia Sofia as a mosque, … I personally know this because one side of my ancestry is Anatolian greek(Rum). What most greek people don’t understand is that most marriages between turks and greeks during the ottoman empire happened between a Turkish man and a Greek woman. So their children would most likely call themselves Turkish. In our traditions father’s lineage/side is more important and defines who you are. That’s the case for most Turkish people with Greek ancestry. Also it’s only natural if you consider that for example: when my ancestors came to western Anatolia (we lived in eastern Anatolia before the ottomans deported us because we sided with the Safavids) our tribe consisted of 8000/9000 man and about 4000/5000 women. This difference resulted in our great grandfathers marrying local women(mostly Rum). Learning the language was for most a necessity because the merchants and businesses were mostly real ethnic Rums. But after the population exchange there was no value in learning greek. My grandfather born in 1905 had lots of memories about the Rums. He was herding sheep owned by Rums when the greeks entered/captured the town. Rum people tried to hide the turks (including my grandparents) in their churches while the mainland greeks were searching the houses, they knew that the soldiers wouldn’t dare killing someone in a holy place. After some time our town was liberated and Mustafa Kemal was welcomed and in 1923 the population exchange was signed by both countries. Our Rum community gave their keys to their Turkish neighbors and said that they would come back in a few years, sadly that never happened. Last time someone visited from Greece was in the 1970’s. He came to visit his childhood home but the house was already owned by a exchanged turk. So he stayed over at his old neighbors place they welcomed him and showed him around the town and he still spoke perfect Turkish. But yeah even though we had a huge Rum population back in the days, you wouldn’t be able to tell us apart from any other Anatolian town now. Also there was just no interest in learning greek or keeping our “identity”. Most of our uncles had fought against the greek army during the independence war. Also mainland greek and Rum was not considered the same back then, the cultural difference between these two was huge. You get my point, DNA and cultural heritage/identity are two separate things and for most the later is more important.
@@bumin6451 I understand what you mean. You described the mentality of a janissary. That's unfortunately the case. Cause it's an oxymoron, you can't be a Rum (Eastern Roman) and Muslim. Turkification was inevitable in Anatolia. It's a very sad story, for sure. I'm glad though there are still speakers of Rumca in Anatolia. As regards their identity, that's something very personal. Culturally maybe - I'm afraid-they are Turkish. Cause they feel like this.
i Can not agree more with your statement. Especially languages that are close to ancient variants needs to be preserved for the next generations (such as Romeika-pontus greek which has a lot of similarities to old greek).
Την επόμενη φορά, αν μπορείς βάλε ποντιακούς υπότιτλους που σίγουρα οι νεοέλληνες και εσύ θα καταλάβετε σχεδόν τα πάντα. Μην ξεχνάμε πως η προφορά με τον γρήγορο λόγο δεν βοηθάει. Αούτο( αυτό) τα μαλλία μ έσπρισαν ( τα μαλλιά μου ασπρισαν). Πολύ συγκινητικό το τραγούδι και με το ( Παναγία μ ) αμέσως καταλαβαίνεις πως οι πρόγονοί του αναγκάστηκαν να γίνουν μουσουλμάνοι)
What is sad about this video no one is mentioning The guy didn’t feel comfortable speaking Greek in public Meanwhile in Greece all these people are running around speaking their language and the government is opening mosques for them As a Greek Half Pontian I find this disturbing
There's no ban or discrimination for speaking Pontic language in Northeast of Turkey, however they identify themselves now as Turks, that's why the guy did not want to speak Pontic in the video.
Al San. That's not true. I spoke to people who specifically told me they were afraid to be "written up" and asked me not to speak Greek with them in public. One man said the following: "This isn't Germany or the US. You have to be more cautious here." Unfortunately, there is discrimination, even though many Turks were hospitable and warm. I was also told "you're a tourist so people are nicer. But if you lived here, you would be made to feel that you're somehow different and experience discrimination." One of the kindest families I met invited me over for lunch. Their son had a Gray Wolf tattoo on his arm. If I lived in the Pontus region and had Greek roots, that would definitely make me feel uneasy.
bro wtf r u talking about u discriminated even pontic and anatolian greeks calling them “turks” in ur very own land. god knows how would u react to turkish speaking orthodoxes in greece
he doesn’t feel comfortable talking greek in trabzon because trabzon is one of the most conservative and nationalist places in turkey. he can talk it in istanbul and no one wouldn’t care about it
Its more disapointing that this guy is asking for not to be shown, and the cameraman tells him a lie and says its just a voice recording. See that first.
Pontic is definitely the hardest Greek dialect for a Standard Greek speaker to understand. Tsakonian too. Tom, you should try the Cretan dialect and the Cypriot dialect (especially an old person from the Paphos region).
Theres a lot of misunderstanding in the comments. Greek pontiacs in Turkey have retained MORE of the language and culture than the Pontiacs in Greece. They have assimilated into the Greek culture losing their own unique-ness. Atleast many regions and villages still speak it, my husband has a greek friend with turkish ancestry.. what about his culture. He’s got nothing but a turkish sounding last name. The comments are so stupid here. Many Turk Greeks are comfortable and are not discriminated against. Im a pontiac Turk, ive never had issues and im definitely not rare. Naturally, like any country with a school system, over time the dominant language takes over. Over time it becomes a native language.
I was working in Germany and the chef was Turkish and told me his from pontus and I speak him in Pontiac language but he was speaking only a few Pontiac words... He told me his mother speaking fluency Pontiac language.. I am Greek Pontiac and this guy that his mother speaking only Pontiac he was the biggest racist against Greeks... How funny is that? His mother was Pontiac Greek but he call his self turk because of his religion... Search your roots and don't stick with religion...
I hate to be a debbie downer / wokester but the man around 5:10 clearly says he does not wish to be on camera. He only gave consent for voice recording. It is a bit (!) unseemly to show his face despite his clear wishes against it.
It was the Greeks who committed terrible atrocities in the 19th century. The Turks have done nothing but humanity to the Greeks ! The Greeks, on the other hand, got a little stronger, and immediately began to massacre the Turks. Stop your lies !
Не знаю, кому как, а мне больно за соплеменников погибших от рук турецких солдат. Больно за тех, кого отуречили, хотя все молятся одному Богу. Что за люди были, так поступать с рядовыми гражданами???
Trabzon region is the most nationalist region of Turkey. Even though many of them have Greek roots they are nationalist. That's why people may hesitate to speak Greek in public. Greece also has extreme nationalist groups like Χρυσή Αυγή. But on the other hand you can speak freely other regions of Turkey. Probably most of the people don't understand what language you speak by except the Eagean or Thrace regions.
500K Georgian Pontians receiving Greek citizenship 10 years ago? No, that never happened. There was a wave of Soviet Pontian immigrants to Greece in the 1990s, and the number wasn't nearly that big.
Yea. Agreed. No idea where he came up with that figure. But certainly there were some Greeks (not half a million) from the former Soviet Union that repatriated after 1990.
@@tom_traveler Right, it's no where near that number. "Repatriate" is also a bit questionable, since they are natives of that region that were hellenized at some point, and have been culturally isolated from Greece & Cyprus for centuries, since the Seljuks arrived and cut them off from the Aegean/Peninsular Greeks. These folks in these videos were regarded as Turkish due to being Muslims. The Soviet ones were Christians, and accepted as "Greek", but experienced a culture shock in Greece.
@@konstantinoskalmanides8219 bro in the entire west Turkey they use the word Greek as an insult, just like in Greece some people use "albanian" or "gypsy".... So i dont know really ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ i make conclusions
I think there was some historical connection between Cypriot, Cappadocian and Pontic Greek. Also, many christian Pontian refugees settled in Cyprus after the first world war, and muslim Pontians were settled in Northern Cyprus in the 1970s, especially in the villages Davlos, Flamoudi and Trikomo in the east (where they still speak Greek).
Pws ginetai na milate pontiaka kai na min katalabainetai Ellinika?opws kai na exei einai parafwnia gia ta aftia mas...ama theleis na akouseis pontiaka ela stin Ellada..autoi pou emenan ekei twra einai edw!!
At 5:11, the man says ‘Çekme beni,’ meaning ‘Do not film me,’ clearly expressing his wish not to be recorded. The cameraman responds by falsely claiming they are only recording audio. Lying to interviewees is unethical. Moreover, it is disheartening to see speakers of an endangered language feeling uncomfortable using it in public. It is saddening that speaking Pontic Greek in Turkey remains a taboo even today.
Take it bro I did it I’m from Gumusane and guess what I got 87% Anatolian and 0% Asian. We are Anatolians our people have always been their but change of ideas have happened. End of the day we are still the same blood
There are 2 types of Black Sea greeks: 1) greek-speaking Romeas of Turkey and Crimea, 2) turkish-speaking Urums of Turkey and Crimea. Most of them were Turkish-speaking at home / in family, but Greek-speaking in the church (their lithurgy, tombstones and church inscriptions were in Greek). Crimean Urums speak Crimean Tatar, and Pontic Urums speak Azerbaijani Turkish.
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I am GreekAmerican, and I get goosebumps just listening to Pontic Greek with so many Ancient Greek terms.
Interesting how they pronounce je instead of kai similar to Cypriots.
@@savvageorge there is a Pontic connection to Cyprus
-idis is an incredibly popular suffix for last names there
They're not somehow closer to "Ancient Greek" than the Greek of Greece. It's just a non-standardized dialect that evolved parallel to the varieties of Greece & Cyprus.
I'm from Türkiye and this is so very interesting. Black Sea folks should definitely keep the Pontic language alive and pass it to new generations. Kudos to young people who still speak it 👏👏👏 That history is too valuable and rich to go extinct.
Wow. Turks kill the languages and then say keep it pass it down. Hypocrisy.
@@und3rcut535pola krima.
Neden öyle yapsınlar? Neredeyse Yunan bile yok.
Do you think Kurds should be able to keep their language alive?
@@newleft2254 they already do.
I am very shocked and sad that these people are somehow afraid of talking in their native language and that there is almost no attempt made to protect Pontic Greek - I think that the younger generation is not even knowing a single word! They must teach them their identity it is nothing to be ashamed of!
On the Aegean region of Turkey, for example in Ayvalık, you can here Greek music in Turkish owned shops and restaurants - but almost all of the Greeks had to leave the city due to the population exchange and the wars.
This extreme nationalism and racism is a sickness 😢🇬🇷🇹🇷
My family were from Ayvali but moved to Lesbos after the war. I will visit someday and see my great grandparents homes.
@@ub3rfr3nzy94 I hope that you can visit Ayvali soon and see all the Greek heritage sites there 😊 you're always welcome 🙏 From Lesvos, there are daily cruises in the summer to Ayvali
@@TheVolkan928 sümelanın boşaltılma sebebini oku önce sonra davet edersin
@@borninthesnowynight2583 Mazide yaşanmış olan bir çok kötü hadise var - ama bir okadarda güzel şeylerde vardı. Neden bugün yaşayan insanlar eskilerin kötülüklerinin bedelini ödemeli, veya nefret neden hala devam etmeli? Nefret ve düşmanlık onca şeyı yakıp yıkmış ve mahvetmişken tekrar aynı şeyler yaşanmamalı. Hem ecdadlarının geldiği yerleri görmek istemeleri çok güzel bence, benim anne tarafından da muhacirler var göçmek zorunda kalan. Bizde gidip o yerleri görmek istiyoruz elbette.
Hem insanlar onca asır birlikte yaşamışlar, Peygamber efendimiz sav.de aksini öğretmemiş. 😊 selamlar ve hayırlı bayramlar 🌹
@@TheVolkan928 Malesef hümanist bir dünya yok. 1821 yılında mora yarim arasında bir günde tam 40 bin insan 2 aylik bebeklere kadar işkence ettirilerek öldürüldü. Uydurma diye araştırdım bizzat o dönemde o bölgede yaşayan fransız ingiliz devlet görevlilerinin günlüklerinde yazışmalarında okudum. Öyle satırlar var ki Cengizhan bile o kadar zalim değildi. Yunan ordusu izmire çıktığında insanlarin 40 yillik komşularına yaptıklarını duyunca aklını yitirirsin camilere doldurulup canlı canlı.yakilan insanlar karnı dedilen hamile kadınlar....... Savaştan sonra yapacak bir şey kalmamıştı. Eğer onlar bu topraklarda Türkler yunanistanda yasamaya devam etseydi intikam hırsıyla yanan insanlar aklından geçiremeyeceğim şeyler yapardı. O sebeple Lozanda üzerinde en cok durulan olmazsa olmaz konulardan birisi mübadele idi. Gelelim bugüne toplumsal hafıza asla silinmez bunu eğitim sistemi de destekler. Yunanistanda okul kitaplarında oluşturulan Türk imajı tam bir dudağı yerde bir dudağı gökte kanla.beslenen bir canavar durumunda iken onlardaki kin bitmez. Bizde genelde bu durum derslerde hızla geçiştirilir mora katliamı desen kimse bilmez Osmanlı rus savaşında balkanlarda yapılan Türk soykırımı ve sürgünü desen kimse bilmez (Tüm balkanların nüfusunun yarısı Türk idi) Bugün sınırları kaldırdık herkes istediği yere yerleşsin desen cehaletin sadık efendisi emperyalizm boş durmaz 10 sene sonra ayni vido başa sarar.
My mother's side (from Zonguldak/Filyos) is known to have Greek ancestry tracing back all the way to Rum Mehmed Pasha. On my recent DNA test, I found out that I am 30% Greek (Cappadocia and Crimea according to gedmatch). Ever since I have started to do more research and got interested in my lost heritage.
And your father’s side?
My haritige sonucu yorum üzerine gedmatch daha doğru yüzde kaç Avrasya var gedmatchda ortalama
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The pontic came out of rum or eastern Roman empire?
Proud of my Pontian Greek ancestry (Trabzon from my father's side, Samsun from my mother's). As for the people living in Pontus today, there are lots of them that actually have Pontian Greek roots and I consider them as my siblings, we belong to the same race, even if they are Muslim. I hope and pray that someday things change and these people be able to express their cultural identity freely, without fear from the Turkish state oppression. Herkese selamlar. Şeretias. Bola ağapume sas.
Hello my brother.Greetings from mother land.I want to ask you if you know.Which (at the moment) turkish breed of dogs are from Pontos?Which of them is Greek?Maybe you know
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There are no greeks in Turkiye, we kcked them off before a couple centuries
@@tolisramos u wish. Soon we will take back our islands,Selanik and the rest of Trakya
It amazing that despite everything there are still people speaking this language. I come from a region of south of Italy that has been historically "greek", I took a DNA test and I'm 67% ethnically greek, but unfortunately in my area the language is lost: still few little communities exist.
There 's still Griko over there spoken, maybe you find people who still use it.
@@eetuerrenor5757 Maybe something made from our Governement about Greek language in your region I think so my dear
Sei Calabrese della Bovesia e della Locride ( Rc)? Quindi parleresti del "griko". Ci sono interessanti video che illustrano i paesini in cui resiste tenacemente , addirittura hanno aperto corsi di lingua ( i punti di referenza sono i vecchi che la parlano ancora) e fatto gemellaggio con la Grecia. Li ho visti tempo fa. Anzi un'occasione per rivederli. Saluti da Napoli ( antica città greca, fondata da Cuma, pochi kilometri distante [.comune di Pozzuoli, zona dei Campi Flegrei] . Cuma , dove sotto l'accollo, si trova la grotta della famosa profetessa Sibilla Cumana, è la più antica città di fondazione greca in Europa Occidentale. Prima della colonizzazione della Sicilia , Calabria etc.❤❤
E. C : Sotto l' Acropoli si trova la grotta
I am sending greetings to my greek race colleagues from Trabzon. Greece must protect our rights. We are Greeks from Pontus. You should increase your support to us more. It is very sad that the Pontusians living in Turkey are assimilating.
Χαίρε Αδερφέ. I greet you brother.
Greece is not powerful enough at the moment to protect Greeks from Turkey. Greek politicians try to find peace with Turkey but it’s not easy.
Greece is simply not a free state. Hasn't been for millenias, sadly enough. We too here in mainland Greece are no better, slowly rotting from the inside, straying away from our ancestors. I wish someday it will change and maybe, just maybe, the greek lands ( Ionia, Pontus, Cyprus, Northen Epirus etc ) will have strong bonds and be protected by mainland Greece or finally be made autonomous.
@@klidouxos Greece NOT a free state??
You are kidding, i assume, right?
@@BeChannel1234 If you consider a filthy company of alien powers, in which every decisition must go through them first and then be executed, while also this same joke of a "state" is "ruled" not by people of the enslaved and slowly genocided nation, of course, but by men and women of, at least, questionable descendance, who do not under any circumstances care about the plethos, the mob, the uncultured crowd, these "foolish commoners", to be a free state, then indeed, my friend, you may be correct. Under those parametrs, Greece could be called an independent country.
It is quite easy to deceive the imbeciles, either with empty and pompous words, or by means of pleasure and delegacy, or maybe with fear and anger. Last but not least, they use the delusion of certainty and "knowledge" on us.
Today the demos has no sthenos.
I really enjoyed this episode 👍 Thank you. I'm very proud of my Pontian roots🙏
All my ancestors come from Αργυρούπολη / Gümüşhane. Very proud of my Pontian Greek ancestry! I've been to Pontos 3 times, the most beautiful place I've ever visited.
Where from ... from Gümüşhane
@@yirmialt2960 Kocadal (Δέρενα) and Manastir. The ones from Kocadal (the original name was Δέρενα/ Deraina) moved from Derena to Abdurrahmanlı in Akdağmadeni.
@@olgaath1511 Dear Olga ... everbody say somethınk eversıde say somethınk please don t be enemy and don t be far ... tıme 2022 ... ... one day in Gümüşhane my car stoped ... ı looked to around ... was nt anybody ... but ı saw that ... 3 vılıage ... Armanıa Greek Azeri ... ... Greek s wanted wıth gerılla Armanıa ns wanted Fedai ... Turks Kurd s Arabıa ... ... vıllıage s stıll there ... and they waıt who love them ... Home only belong to lover ... ... don t be enemy ...
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@@olgaath1511 U look Syrian
Hey your videos are interesting for me. I study English language in university and I wanna learn Greec language, so I have tried to tell all people we have the same cultural experiences. My hometown is şebinkarahisar which had many Pontus greeks I ll really continue lost language with master degree. Your videos are awesome thank you
Thank you.
I'll visit Şebinkarahisar this summer for having videos and İf I can I wan to find some people who speak Pontiaka (Romeika)...
th-cam.com/play/PLkF8gG7wgb0DKmLxPyhfA1ESl2b1u4Jam.html
Κάντο αδερφέ μου.
The home town of my family is also Sebinkarahisar. They named it Garasari. In a village in Northern Greece are settled a lot of Greek people who came from Sebinkarahisar in 1922-1924
To understand the akcient "greek" language you must learn first albanian language...
Harika bır video olmuş. Πολύ συγκινήθηκα,να είστε καλα.
So fascinating. My grandparents were from Amisos (now Samsun) in Pontus. I was always curious what was left of the community in Turkey. These videos give me a flavor of what it is like there today.
I was curious too. I learned a lot. Basically, identity formation, especially in Turkey over the last 1,000 years, is complicated and still an emotional topic
@@tom_traveler Apparently not all Greeks in Pontus spoke the Pontic dialect, even before the population exchange. My grandparents spoke Modern Greek and Turkish. My grandfather also spoke French having gone to a French Academy in Pontus. It apparently varied by community and education.
@@jack417k In the second half of the 19th century many international schools opened in the Pontus. Especially in Trabzon. About half a dozen French schools, a number of Italians schools, a Persian school, an American school... Most of the students were local Greeks, Armenians and Turks, all of whom could have attended one of the many schools of their own community. But just as today, international schools were seen as more prestigious. Not that most could afford it, probably... There were also a number of orphanages I believe. Oh and I forgot to mention one important aspect that may explain why your grandparents didn't speak Pontic. Greek schools of Pontus taught Modern Greek, not Pontic Greek! That is also the reason why the Pontic Greek of the muslims has remained more archaic, while that of christians has been moving closer to Modern Greek since even before the population exchange!
@@jack417k Also my grandfather whos in this French Academy to in Trabezunta 👍
@C.🧿 Batter Georgian lady , but never Bulganoalpanojenizary brainwashed jopan how dreams she is a Turk heheee, your live is a fandasy story 😴💤💤💤💭💭💭💭💤
ΕΥΧΑΡΙΣΤΩ ΠΟΛΟΙ ...ΕΙΜΑΙ ΠΟΝΤΙΑ ΚΕ ΤΑ ΚΑΤΑΛΑΒΑ ΟΛΑ..(.TEMON I GLLOSA)(
ULA EGRIKO!!!!ROMEIKA (PONTIAKA)!!POSON POLA AGAPO' SAS!!🙋
very interesting video, glad there's people like you to capture these beautiful things in life that are often over looked
This language(dialect) is easily understandable For Greeks (non pontic speakers) Who lived in Central Greece (Rumeli) Village areas.
Give an example :
The Word -Γροικώ (ğrıko) = understand
Is used in Central Greece and as I know also on Crete, Cyprus and maybe in Other areas (don't know)!
The Word τερώ (tero) = looking or Look after or watching (modern greek: κοιτάζω or κοιτάω) , is using in Central Greece Village areas as -τηράω (tirao).... In modern greek the Word is only used as a combine Word : παρατηρώ.
If you speak a local greek dialect and you Thinking a little about what you hear, you can understand, without having any grammatical knowing.
Look, the language is speaking today in Greece (Television) is Not originally this what was speaking from our grandparents.
This is the New athenian "Chinese" , but they call us derogatory, mountain Village people.
Look, languages naturaly evolve and brings people toghether!
It is weird that younger greek people cannot understand a dialect of Their own language but understand easily English(a strange language to us)
If it goes Forward Like this, in a Few years people in Greece will speak a English Greek mixture language and later only the New creating (from linguistic "Experts") World language
Very sad!!!!
Look at big City-town-people in Greece Europe American Africa Asia today ... You See any difference in their "culture"? Me , No!
They speaking about History ,but all they know is what they was taught in "Shool"
People don't know when and how to sow and earn a 🍅 ...Eating only Hybrids and watching Hollywood movies.
Look at younger people today, all they Thinking about is big Cars, Money(colored Papier), Sex and Rock&Roll.
You See 50-60 yeas old people acting Like "Kids"
Sorry, this is soooo sad!
You are right .
Γροικω στα κυπριακά Γροιζω νόμιζα ότι μόνο Κύπρο το είχαμε
Here in Crete we speak the same
@@teoteog3984 και στην Κρήτην φίλε μου. Γρικώ σημαίνει καταλαβαίνω. Λαλούμεν το και στην Κύπρον και στην Κρήτη και οι Πόντιοι.
@@olbiomoiros Οι λεξεις αυτες υπαρχουν στην Ποντιακη διαλεκτο αλλα εδω στην Ελλαδα εχουμε χασει την διαλεκτο μας γιατι δεν ειμαστε ολοι σε μια περιοχη εχουμε αναμειχθει με ολες τις ρατσες στην Ελλαδα πηγαμε στο σχολειο διαδαχθηκαμε την Νεοελληνικη γλωσσα και να σας πως και κατι που μου ελεγε η μαμα μου η οποια ζουσε σε χωριο της Μακεδονιας μεχρι που τελειωσε το Δημοτικο σχολειο. Στο χωριο μιλουσανε Ποντιακα και στο σπιτι αλλα στο Σχολειο δεν τους επιτρεπανε τωρα η Ποντιακη γλωσσα μπορει να σωθει μονο στην Μακεδονια που υπαρχει συμπαγης Ποντιακος πληθυσμος αυτα για να ξερουν οι νεωτεροι
Ιτ's so amazing that these Greeks kept their language for thousands of years. Even when the ancient Greek territories were occupied by Turks.
There is no proof for you statement that these people are greeks, altough it would be very possible that a part of them are indeed ethnically greek. Greek language was obviously the dominant language in that area (We come from Surmene-Trabzon-Caykara), and even today, in our villlage people speak still Romeyka. Nevertheless, we should not forget that Pontus was a isolated, initial greek area which was later invaded by many other ethnicities such as Turks but also Armenians. Thereby, it is very difficult to mark all these people as Greek.
@@stealthman8666 My family is from Çaykara, and DNA tests show 40% Greek-South Italian. And our family history in the area goes back at least three centuries. So yeah, we are partly Greek.
@@i.k.8868 Partially. But that is the case for the majority of inhabitants of modern day Anatolia.
@@stealthman8666 %40 Greek dna in Pontic results is very high and means they're probably 100% Pontic Greek.
@@tuiretuinen I'm from Izmir got %50 Greek %7 Southern Italian with following Turkic/Georgian. But no one speaks Romeika in my family, we know there are some Muslim Rums in a village Inner Anatolia at Yozgat where my grandfather is from were living and speaking but they immigrated to US New Jersey for economic reasons. What i heard it was very widely spoken in past, no one were call themselves Greek/Turk it was known as Rum(Muslim/Christian) these are the words of the elders. There were even Armenians but they have deported after burning a farm (by the Tashnaks), during Russo-Turk WW1 before the population exchanges between Turkish/Greek government. Old says the one's we know became enemy all sudden, nationalism idea made our people divided.
I got here after reading about Mithridates (many of them) the Pontic Empire, the Empire of Trebizond and Apolas Lermi.
Such a fascinating variant of Ancient Greek. It must be preserved!
You should come to Rize too. I am from Pazar which we call Atina ( Athens) there are some Romeika speakers in Rize too. I am a pharmacist so because of my education I know some classic greek and latin and I can tell you that Rize Romeika is much more different than the Trabzon one I always think this is because maybe different Greek tribes settled the cities.
Are you talking about the mountain villages in the western part of Ikizdere district, which are dialectically more close to Çaykara? This video was recorded in Tonya I believe, which lies to the west of Trabzon and has a different dialect (Tom posted another video where he talks to Çaykarali's). Or are there other places in Rize province where Romeika is still spoken? This would be new to me. I am very much interested, because Vahit Tursun, creator of the Romeika-Turkish dictionary (he is from Çaykara) stated in interviews recently that he had difficulty finding Romeika speakers in Rize. Are there Romeika speakers still in Atina? I thought It had been 'Lazified' already in the early 19th century?
Where in Rize do they speak ? Which villages?
@@i.k.8868What do you mean by "Lazified"?
@@fallenstate5933 Greek used to be spoken all the way east to Pazar (Atina). During the 18th and 19th centuries, Greek language and remaining christians were persecuted by muslim "Turko-Laz" and other Caucasian groups. A kind of reverse Hellenization. If you are interested in the history of the area I recommend the book 'A Nation of Empire' by Michael Meeker.
@@i.k.8868 Laz people were Hellenized in the first place, you're correct in that one. Kartvelians didn't enjoy their own millet system and fell under either Greek or Armenian millets if they wanted to remain Christian so assimilated into these cultures over centuries, some preserved their culture just because they converted to Islam. Many Turks also adopted the identity of a "Laz" because the area was called "Lazistan" but they weren't really Laz and for sure didn't really speak the language. Pontic Greek language might have been spoken as a second language in Rize area, true, especially if we consider that Laz were integral part of Trebizond empire and they would speak the state language, but they would just switch from Greek to Turkish because of changing language of state and commerce, so no, Greek language was not persecuted, if any language was and is persecuted till this day, it is Laz language. East of Trebizond has always been historical Laz land and even west of Trebizond some Laz people still lived in rural areas.
When the Turks from Central Asia came to Anatolia 1071 ad. the population of Asia Minor (which was in his majority Greek, was 3.000.000 people). The Turks that invaded Asia Minor were only 400.000. So you can see that modern Turks are a mixture of Greeks (who assimilated with force to the tinting culture), some real central asiatic Turks and a majority of Greek/Turkish/Persian mixture of people.
@Aris Atrpet can you please write on Latin alphabet. Can’t read the kyrill
Where do you get that number of 400.000? Turks kept migrating to anatolia as it got more Turkified and it became safer. "Turks are greek blah blah blah you people never shut up. It is the other way around. Since you are supposed to be white greeks and us the brown Turks, I expect you to be white. I've visited greece and travelled around it for 3 weeks, visited islands and remote villages and my friend you people are brown. I've seen it. Unlike you pulling out some bullshit out of your ass.
where do you get these numbers from ?
@@alsan2812 They are estimates, I've seen similar numbers before. But the Turkish settlers were a minority and mixed with the local Byzantine Greeks to form the Turks we have today. It is a myth that they pushed out and replaced the locals.
@@ub3rfr3nzy94 There’s no myth. The Turkic migration of Anatolia is a s real as it gets, these Pontic “Greeks” aren’t even genetically ancient Greek they’re Hellenized Caucasians deemed Greeks, Turks on the contrary carry 32% Medieval Turkic heritage, the Turkic migrations were enough to change the genetic profile of the region, Greek hag. The one and only myth is the Greek migration to Anatolia.
Keep going pontus! God bless you! Na lelewo sas!
So very interesting. I’m American and bilingual in Spanish so some of the words in Greek are similar probably from common root words. I’m also of some Greek ancestry myself but so far back it doesn’t show in my DNA results. It is through both of my parents. We have been able to take it to the late Byzantine period and know the family was mostly from Anatolia originally from the Pontic region and Cappadocia. There is also quite a bit of Armenian and one line to Thebes in Greece. It’s all new to me as I didn’t grow up in the Greek culture and it was not really known by my family until our research led that direction.
Dna sonuçlarında görünmemesi normal. Çünkü siz Yunan değilsiniz. Helenleşmiş anadolu insanısınız
I’m trying to do research in my Greek ancestry, but I can only trace it back to the 1880s. I’d u have any resources I can use please help me
So, when you talk about "Greek culture", Pontians and people of Greece have very different cultures. Like Brits and Americans, but separated by more centuries. There's a shared language, but that's it. Also, Pontians are natives of their area who were hellenized during Hellenistic, Roman, and East Roman Rule, and have no genetic connection to Peninsular/Ionian/Aegean Greeks. Again, think Brits and Americans. Lastly, the reason there are many shared words between Greek and Spanish is because Ancient Greek and Latin have borrowed heavily from each other, and Spanish is a modern variant of Latin. Additionally, in the Late Middle Ages and Early Modern period, Greek also adopted quite a few Venetian Italian words, many of which have cognates in Spanish, since both Spanish and Italian (and dialects) are descended from Latin.
@@joeb5080 And there were many Greek settlements in the south of Spain.
You are doing a great job man! You have my respect!
Greetings to all the greek of Pontus. I understand you clearly, try to keep the language
My father from trabzon I am very proud I am Greek pondos 👍
Na mi foasten panta na lete imes pontoii!😊❤
This channel is nuts! Loving it!
Μπράβο Τομ πολύ καλή δουλειά
I loved watching this video. Very informative. Thank you.
Yaşasın Rum milletimiz Pontus memlekettimiz
Ωραίος.
@@katerinatsoliakou235 να ζήσει Ελληνισμός
My grandmother from Avdan and grandfather from Bafra. Dont forget above all we are humans.
heyy buddy i own a greco turkish friendship discord server if you want to join send me your account
Bafraaaaaaaaaaaa cityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy 55!!!!!!!
I just wish Greeks survived there with their language and their religion. Greeting from a Pontiac-Cretan Greek from Greece.
Must be come back to orthodox Christian
Check out recent BBC story on history of Greek speakers in Maripul
Our brothers from Pontus.
Σας ευχαριστούμε για αυτό το βίντεο!
I am really happy that Pontic culture is still somehow preserved after all the difficulties over centuries due to Turkish oppression that is still a problem.
talking about turkish oppression while the Turks in west Thrace till this day cant use the word turk as ethnicity and if they had left Greece to study or work abroad they were never ever allowed to come back.
@Rock John You live in a different reality. Turks in Greece are not oppressed. Moreover, at least Greece kept Turkish minority in the country as the treaty said and not expelled them. It is interesting to see how the Greek population in Constantinople went over the last decades and you will understand what I say.
@Rock John There are many unofficial ones. There is an official one as well named Votanikos mosque. Thus, your statement is not true.
It is very funny that you insist about that, while Turkish government has turned Hagia Sophia, a holy Christian church, to a mosque. Don't you find this hypocritical?
@Rock John Are you saying Turks commited the genocides because there is no mosque in Athens?
@Rock John first make hagia sophia cathedral again and then we will build a mosque
πολυ ωραιο βιντεο παντως
Η ελληνική ιστορία στην Τουρκία πρέπει να ξεκινα απ τα αρχαία χρόνια... κ όχι απ τα χριστιανικά
Esatto. Dal XII sec. a . C ! Da Napoli,Italia, antica città delka Magna Grecia [Megali Hellas]❤❤❤😊
5:04 The guy showed in the video doesnt approve you to take video , but he didnt denied to the voice recording.
❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏✝️🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
Bu kelimelerin kaydedilip bir sözlük oluşturulmalı.
Nice videos. Are you Greek, American? Because you speak Greek but you have accent. I am just curious 😁
Greek-American
@@tom_traveler wow i am impressed. Μπράβο. Πολύ ωραία βιντεο
Ευχαριστώ
Μπράβο ρε μάγκες ωραίο βίντεο συγχαρητήρια
Pontic Greeks has Turkfied contrary to popular belief that extinction.
MOST of Anatolia did
Pontic Greek is a more true representation of the Greek language in its ancient form. Modern Greek has simplified it, whereas in its true form the word explains its meaning much more. Of course the Poniatiko language is only in basic form but it is still a closer offshoot to the orthodox Greek.
Все мы, греки урумы, ромеи братья и сестры одного происхождение и крови должны любить и поддерживать друг друга ❤❤❤
Μπράβο!!!
Ο ΠΟΝΤΟΣ ΖΕΙ !!!
ΜΠΡΑΒΟ Ειναι σχετικα ευκολα να καταλαβεις ποντιακα αν ξερεις Ελληνικα.
🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
The power to assimilate into the mainstream national identity is difficult to resist. I believe such pressure also exists in Greece where speaking Pontic Greek was frown upon. Even these days modern youths prefer the urbanised Greek rather than their rural speech. As for the Griko community in Italy . Despite legislation to protect , it may not survive. In France minority langauges are almost extint like Occitan.
Όλοι οι πόντιοι στην Ελλάδα μιλούν τα ποντιακά και δεν υπάρχει καμία πίεση, που το είδες αυτο; οποίος νεοέλληνας διαβάσει η προσέξει ν ακούσει, θα τα καταλάβει.
I am Turkish but living in Germany and I somewhat understand the feeling of cultural pressure to assimilate. It's not as bad as in 1920's-2000 Turkey but I got a little glimpse on how it must have been. I think we really need to protect ALL our languages.
Σε καμία χώρα που φιλοξενεί κάποιες διαφορετικές εθνότητες δεν είναι ευχάριστο οι φιλοξενούμενοι να μην μιλούν την γλώσσα της !στην Γερμανία μετανάστες από την Τουρκία την Ελλάδα την Βουλγαρία την Ιταλία την Σερβία την Πολωνία για εργασία δεν ζούσαν εκεί από χιλιάδες χρόνια και να την κατακτήσουν ώστε να θεωρούνται καταπιεστές όταν ζητάνε να μιλάς την γλώσσα τους τουλάχιστον στην δημόσια ζωή σου!Μοιάζει λίγο με ασέβεια!είναι σαν να φιλοξενείς κάποιον στο σπίτι σου και αυτός μιλάει άλλη γλώσσα με σα σαυτό 8:32 με τους δικούς! Θυμάμαι τους Αλβανούς όταν ήρθαν στην Ελλάδα και έλεγαν στα παιδιά τους να μιλάνε Ελληνικά μεταξύ τους ακόμα και στον δρόμο από σεβασμό!μου το έχουν πει φίλοι μου Αλβανοί!μου έκανε φοβερή εντύπωση η ευγένεια τους!οι Γερμανοί δεν μιλάνε εύκολα ούτε Αγγλικά στη χώρα τους ακόμα και αν ξέρουν για να σε εξυπηρετήσουν!εκτός από σταθμούς και αεροδρόμια!
Πηγές που πήγες , πάρε έναν Πόντιο μαζί σου .....
Amazing
Glory to Greece 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷♥️♥️♥️
We are brothers.
Im from there. Here, some Turkish words are used mixed in Pontus.
The World needs to know:
1. For millennia all coasts North, West and South, of what is modern Turkey, were populated by greek speaking people. From before Christ times (800 BC) up until the 20th century AD.
2. The Greek roots never unrooted. In classical times, they were there, in Roman times they were there, in Christian Roman Empire they were there, in Ottoman Empire they were there.
3. None of the above mentioned Empires ever planed to take a huge population of Greeks and send them somewhere else. Estimated numbers are about 20.000.000
4. For reasons that are not here discused, the Greek State lost a war with Turkey in 1922.
5. It was agreed that all muslims from Greece and same number of christians from Turkey would be exchanged.
6. Many Christians Greeks from Turkey to avoid been deported and lose everything they had, they simply changed religion and their names, so they could stay in their homeland. The number exchanged was about 1.000.000 from each side. Meaning that the Greek majority still lives in Turkey undercover.
7. You can change religion, name, even language. But you cannot change your DNA.
8. That is why many modern Turks are surprised after having a DNA test, witch uncovers the truth, even if said truth never was told them by their parents.
Thanks for reading this.
Conversion of Pontic greeks to Islam did not occur during population exchange, rather around 17th century. The current DNA tests clearly show differences between population from Pontus and Anatolian Turks. In the majority of Trabzon, majority of the population does not have any Eurasian genetic material, whilst other regions in Turkey clearly shows a certain amount of Eurasian component in their admixture.
@@alsan2812 Apparently you:
a) was not yet born/ alive in 1923
b) you don't know that conversion to islam is the fastest procedure in the world. You just say the sahada (no god but Allah and his prophet..... etc), and you are Muslim. Brother amongst brothers and nobody touches you.
c) you don't have any family deported under the agreement as Christians or stayed as Muslims.
d) Hundreds of Turks citizens travel to Greece to find their separated relatives (2nd and 3rd cousins) among Greek citizens. Their testimonies can be found on TH-cam, while most of them prefer not to publicize for obvious reasons.
e) external characteristics of persons are not validating their ancestral origin in modern times. We don't measure noses ears or heads as scientists did in 1850. Today molecular biology and analysis give all the answers.
Conclusion: Anything can be hidden or not discussed, but the blood tests.
Both of my parents are from Rize and in my DNA test there was nothing Greek 🤷♀️ So I guess your theory might be wrong.
@@cambaz3861 I buy one white chicken. After 10 years I have 40 white chickens and 10 brown.
You are one person.
A theory cannot be based one one person.
Otherwise we would ask Emine who wants to be next president and save the money of the elections 😂😂😂
@@iggo45 you are sayin majority in your statement above that’s the reason why I replied. I know a large group of people doing those tests and it’s not like 100% but some have 10-15 % Greek genetics etc. it’s the same for modern Greeks they can have Turkish DNA due to long Occupation. I don’t mind all of this, but if you speaking from majority like above it’s simply not realistic
He said-isa les(ίσα λες),here it means -you said it correct,interesting,most Pontians would say-ortha les,sosta les(ορθά λες,σωστά λες)
Tom what is your origin?
Greek-American (from Kefalonia and Eupalio)
adam video kaydından korkuyor geçmişte ne yaşadıysa artık
θυμιζουν κυπριακα
Τα Ποντιακά Είναι Ομηρική Διάλεκτος για Αυτό και Μοιάζουν με τα Κυπριακά
Αρχαία ελληνικα ειναι οπως τα κρητικα και τα κυπραιικα
Εγώ πάντως καταλαβαίνω σχεδόν τα πάντα στα Κυπριακά και είμαι Ποντιακής καταγωγής!
I am Sarakatsan and our dialect have many ancient Greek words f.e νογάω=νούς και άγω =καταλαβαίνω-αντιλαμβάνομαι=Ι understand. Άστε μας =άστε ημάς =πάμε=lets go e.t.c
You are vllahos...çobani. You are not a greek.
@@egonvelaj4237kid wtf vlachs have nothing to do with Sarakatsan
you should have talked with either people from Macuka /Pondila or Tonia/Skantaranton
th-cam.com/video/-SRHZYuwSE8/w-d-xo.html
Έλα έλα λεγο σε
Λεγο σε τίνος είσαι
Με τ’εμεν λες και γελάς
Με τ’ιναν στροντς κεισε
Come come telling you
Telling you of whose are you
With me you say and laugh
With whom in the bed sleeping
Το ράσι χιονιετε
Κρύουν ιλον λιενετε
Το εμον η σεβταλιτσα’μ
Σο χορον’ εβριετε
On the hill has snowed
The sun hit to melt it
That My lovely of mine
In circle dance turns
Έρθα απαν σο ρασι
Έτερεσα αενκε κα
Παρακαλο σε κοριτς
Ας καίμε σε σεν εμκε κα
Arrived up on the hill
That have looked down
Begging you girl Ι
Lets sleep down there
Ε κόντεσα κοντεσα
Τα τερτια’αμ αμον τ’εσα
Να Πάρο σε και πάγο
Είσαι πολα μηκρέσα
E Sparrow Sparrow
My sorrow much like you
I ll take you and go
You are much little
Λαλι ο πλούτον λαλι
Χενα και χιρα τα κλαδ απαν
Ο ρεπις ας περ τιν ψσίχ´μ
Σα άσπρος τον κερταν απαν
Calling the Coocko calling
Upon strange and dry branch
May God take my soul as
On white necked upwards
Τ’εκει ποτάμ τ’αδα ποταμ
Σιμες εν το χαμελετεν
Κλεφτομεν έναν κοριτς
Τον κάνανε μι λέιτεν
Up there brook all over brook
In the middle is the water mill
We will steal a girl
Of which noone mention
Ηαεν κα το οσπιτοπον εκει κα η Θέμονα
Εγο πολα αγαοπατεν εγιννε λει με ακα
Which down small house of hers and the grass mass
I love her that much and she calls me ‘brother’ senior
Ψηλά ψηλά τσα τσοπα λευτοκαρη καντσοπα
Εγο και με’τεγιννα να κομπονο τα κορτσοπα
High high branch sticks and hazernut cuneisticks
And with those I will combine the little girls
Στιν Κεμεντσενς το καπάκ
Αμον τον καρακαμπαν
Τι σεβταλησι’μ το όνομαν
Γραμμένουν ε εκει απαν
On lyra that coverbox
İs like the blackcatch
Τhe name of my lover
Written there upon
Αψον το ξονον αψον
Καψον τα χηλα καψον
Ας τιν πορταν ανοιχτον
Κ’ερχεμενονς τι μάνας καψον
Spark the fire Sparkle
Catch it with the Woods
Let the door open
Whoever not arrived
catch it his moms
Αποικεν η αεβταλιν με τα πράσα μαλαχτα
Αντα κρουγο σε με πορταν ανοιχσο με γελαχδα
Made for me my lovely the green veggies steamed
When I knock on the door let me in with smilley
feels good to be able to understand the pontic more while reading it.it gives hope.
hearing it and understanding is a hard step to take.
thanks for the song.
@@newreast3904 parakalo se
@@KHAN-gd8qg nase kala.
@@newreast3904 th-cam.com/video/CaXnzJhZmh8/w-d-xo.html
@@newreast3904 thanoun sin anatolia exoume pola deve(camel) ato psema ouk en atora sin aitin /mentese exoun kai trogoun me ta sucukia. ta nomada. kai gia peksoun me ata to kuires (camel wrestling). omorfo to tragodi me pola xarismata. camel means- in fortune telling the kısmet and zenginloukia.
We love you
They look afraid to speak pontic
They lived in fear for centuries, Turks didn't want them to speak their dialect and openly talk about their Greek ancestry.
@@olgaath1511 couldn’t be further than the truth. They are literally the biggest supporters of Erdogan and his policies.
@@bumin6451 it's so sad, however what's really hopeful is that these people are now looking for their past and real identity.
@@olgaath1511 Yeah and still support the nationalist movements of turkey, opening of Hagia Sofia as a mosque, … I personally know this because one side of my ancestry is Anatolian greek(Rum). What most greek people don’t understand is that most marriages between turks and greeks during the ottoman empire happened between a Turkish man and a Greek woman. So their children would most likely call themselves Turkish. In our traditions father’s lineage/side is more important and defines who you are. That’s the case for most Turkish people with Greek ancestry. Also it’s only natural if you consider that for example: when my ancestors came to western Anatolia (we lived in eastern Anatolia before the ottomans deported us because we sided with the Safavids) our tribe consisted of 8000/9000 man and about 4000/5000 women. This difference resulted in our great grandfathers marrying local women(mostly Rum). Learning the language was for most a necessity because the merchants and businesses were mostly real ethnic Rums. But after the population exchange there was no value in learning greek. My grandfather born in 1905 had lots of memories about the Rums. He was herding sheep owned by Rums when the greeks entered/captured the town. Rum people tried to hide the turks (including my grandparents) in their churches while the mainland greeks were searching the houses, they knew that the soldiers wouldn’t dare killing someone in a holy place. After some time our town was liberated and Mustafa Kemal was welcomed and in 1923 the population exchange was signed by both countries. Our Rum community gave their keys to their Turkish neighbors and said that they would come back in a few years, sadly that never happened. Last time someone visited from Greece was in the 1970’s. He came to visit his childhood home but the house was already owned by a exchanged turk. So he stayed over at his old neighbors place they welcomed him and showed him around the town and he still spoke perfect Turkish. But yeah even though we had a huge Rum population back in the days, you wouldn’t be able to tell us apart from any other Anatolian town now. Also there was just no interest in learning greek or keeping our “identity”. Most of our uncles had fought against the greek army during the independence war. Also mainland greek and Rum was not considered the same back then, the cultural difference between these two was huge. You get my point, DNA and cultural heritage/identity are two separate things and for most the later is more important.
@@bumin6451 I understand what you mean. You described the mentality of a janissary. That's unfortunately the case. Cause it's an oxymoron, you can't be a Rum (Eastern Roman) and Muslim. Turkification was inevitable in Anatolia. It's a very sad story, for sure. I'm glad though there are still speakers of Rumca in Anatolia. As regards their identity, that's something very personal. Culturally maybe - I'm afraid-they are Turkish. Cause they feel like this.
The Cykaras’s dialect is very clean,it’s differ from other Pontian Greeks,but still very beautiful.
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Our entire global generation needs to do something to preserve or at least record every language that's bound to go extinct soon.
i Can not agree more with your statement. Especially languages that are close to ancient variants needs to be preserved for the next generations (such as Romeika-pontus greek which has a lot of similarities to old greek).
@@stealthman8666 Or Abyaneh Farsi which is close to middle-Persian
Την επόμενη φορά, αν μπορείς βάλε ποντιακούς υπότιτλους που σίγουρα οι νεοέλληνες και εσύ θα καταλάβετε σχεδόν τα πάντα. Μην ξεχνάμε πως η προφορά με τον γρήγορο λόγο δεν βοηθάει. Αούτο( αυτό)
τα μαλλία μ έσπρισαν ( τα μαλλιά μου ασπρισαν). Πολύ συγκινητικό το τραγούδι και με το ( Παναγία μ ) αμέσως καταλαβαίνεις πως οι πρόγονοί του αναγκάστηκαν να γίνουν μουσουλμάνοι)
εγώ μια χαρά τα κατάλαβα όλα
What is sad about this video no one is mentioning
The guy didn’t feel comfortable speaking Greek in public
Meanwhile in Greece all these people are running around speaking their language and the government is opening mosques for them
As a Greek Half Pontian I find this disturbing
There's no ban or discrimination for speaking Pontic language in Northeast of Turkey, however they identify themselves now as Turks, that's why the guy did not want to speak Pontic in the video.
Al San. That's not true. I spoke to people who specifically told me they were afraid to be "written up" and asked me not to speak Greek with them in public. One man said the following: "This isn't Germany or the US. You have to be more cautious here." Unfortunately, there is discrimination, even though many Turks were hospitable and warm. I was also told "you're a tourist so people are nicer. But if you lived here, you would be made to feel that you're somehow different and experience discrimination." One of the kindest families I met invited me over for lunch. Their son had a Gray Wolf tattoo on his arm. If I lived in the Pontus region and had Greek roots, that would definitely make me feel uneasy.
bro wtf r u talking about u discriminated even pontic and anatolian greeks calling them “turks” in ur very own land. god knows how would u react to turkish speaking orthodoxes in greece
he doesn’t feel comfortable talking greek in trabzon because trabzon is one of the most conservative and nationalist places in turkey. he can talk it in istanbul and no one wouldn’t care about it
Its more disapointing that this guy is asking for not to be shown, and the cameraman tells him a lie and says its just a voice recording. See that first.
Pontic is definitely the hardest Greek dialect for a Standard Greek speaker to understand. Tsakonian too.
Tom, you should try the Cretan dialect and the Cypriot dialect (especially an old person from the Paphos region).
Theres a lot of misunderstanding in the comments. Greek pontiacs in Turkey have retained MORE of the language and culture than the Pontiacs in Greece. They have assimilated into the Greek culture losing their own unique-ness. Atleast many regions and villages still speak it, my husband has a greek friend with turkish ancestry.. what about his culture. He’s got nothing but a turkish sounding last name. The comments are so stupid here. Many Turk Greeks are comfortable and are not discriminated against. Im a pontiac Turk, ive never had issues and im definitely not rare. Naturally, like any country with a school system, over time the dominant language takes over. Over time it becomes a native language.
Greek Americans should start buying properties there.
I was working in Germany and the chef was Turkish and told me his from pontus and I speak him in Pontiac language but he was speaking only a few Pontiac words... He told me his mother speaking fluency Pontiac language.. I am Greek Pontiac and this guy that his mother speaking only Pontiac he was the biggest racist against Greeks... How funny is that? His mother was Pontiac Greek but he call his self turk because of his religion... Search your roots and don't stick with religion...
Οτιο λεει οχι audim.Αυτι δηλαδη.Δυνατος ηλιος ειναι νεοελληνικη εκφραση.
I think the guy who t translate from English to TURKİSH is give a wrong translation he says sıcak which means hot I am not Turkish but I think that
I hate to be a debbie downer / wokester but the man around 5:10 clearly says he does not wish to be on camera. He only gave consent for voice recording. It is a bit (!) unseemly to show his face despite his clear wishes against it.
Φοβάται μην τον δουν και πάθει κακό ο άνθρωπος
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These same greeks suffered horrific atrocities at the hands of the turks in the early 20th century..never forget
It was the Greeks who committed terrible atrocities in the 19th century.
The Turks have done nothing but humanity to the Greeks !
The Greeks, on the other hand, got a little stronger, and immediately began to massacre the Turks.
Stop your lies !
Как нас много, пол Турции, и в Европе, и в России ❤за понтиских греков.
1:04 🇹🇷
BIJI KURDISTAN 🤫😉
@@GrecoByzantine1821 🤣🤣🖕
Не знаю, кому как, а мне больно за соплеменников погибших от рук турецких солдат.
Больно за тех, кого отуречили, хотя все молятся одному Богу.
Что за люди были, так поступать с рядовыми гражданами???
Are you sure it was done by the Turks?
I am half turkish half pontiac greek from trabzon, sadly i can t speak romeyka
Σημερα εβρασαμε! Μπραβο! Simera evrsaame! He is correct! HRONIA POLLA Simera this Panaghias!
It’s not safe to speak Greek in Turkey.
Trabzon region is the most nationalist region of Turkey. Even though many of them have Greek roots they are nationalist. That's why people may hesitate to speak Greek in public. Greece also has extreme nationalist groups like Χρυσή Αυγή. But on the other hand you can speak freely other regions of Turkey. Probably most of the people don't understand what language you speak by except the Eagean or Thrace regions.
@@scaglietti34 χρυσή αυγη isn't a thing today you must be living 10years in the past
they know they are real hellenistic root...but they do not like seem christian speaking Romeika..
Yunanistanda Türkçe konuşmak ölümcül !
@@karamigferhiç de bile. Yunanistan'a gidin ve kendiniz görün. Yunanlılar uygar bir halktır.
500K Georgian Pontians receiving Greek citizenship 10 years ago? No, that never happened. There was a wave of Soviet Pontian immigrants to Greece in the 1990s, and the number wasn't nearly that big.
Yea. Agreed. No idea where he came up with that figure. But certainly there were some Greeks (not half a million) from the former Soviet Union that repatriated after 1990.
@@tom_traveler Right, it's no where near that number. "Repatriate" is also a bit questionable, since they are natives of that region that were hellenized at some point, and have been culturally isolated from Greece & Cyprus for centuries, since the Seljuks arrived and cut them off from the Aegean/Peninsular Greeks. These folks in these videos were regarded as Turkish due to being Muslims. The Soviet ones were Christians, and accepted as "Greek", but experienced a culture shock in Greece.
Why did he feel uncomfortable speaking Greek in public?
I think its obvious...
@@Grikwithbow You think it’s still that bad? Are the Turks really that racist?
@@konstantinoskalmanides8219 YES that bad 💀
@@Grikwithbow If that is true, they’re monsters
@@konstantinoskalmanides8219 bro in the entire west Turkey they use the word Greek as an insult, just like in Greece some people use "albanian" or "gypsy".... So i dont know really ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ i make conclusions
Pontianak sounds like Greek Cypriot
Ετσι είναι, μοιάζουν
I think there was some historical connection between Cypriot, Cappadocian and Pontic Greek. Also, many christian Pontian refugees settled in Cyprus after the first world war, and muslim Pontians were settled in Northern Cyprus in the 1970s, especially in the villages Davlos, Flamoudi and Trikomo in the east (where they still speak Greek).
Pws ginetai na milate pontiaka kai na min katalabainetai Ellinika?opws kai na exei einai parafwnia gia ta aftia mas...ama theleis na akouseis pontiaka ela stin Ellada..autoi pou emenan ekei twra einai edw!!
Χάχα Χάχα Χάχα Χάχα Χάχα Χάχα έχει γέλιο και έχει πλάκα Χάχα 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🇬🇷🇹🇷
At 5:11, the man says ‘Çekme beni,’ meaning ‘Do not film me,’ clearly expressing his wish not to be recorded. The cameraman responds by falsely claiming they are only recording audio. Lying to interviewees is unethical. Moreover, it is disheartening to see speakers of an endangered language feeling uncomfortable using it in public. It is saddening that speaking Pontic Greek in Turkey remains a taboo even today.
He sings Theotokos 🥹
As a turk from trabzon i am afraid of taking a dna test
😂😂 don’t fear the truth
Take it bro I did it I’m from Gumusane and guess what I got 87% Anatolian and 0% Asian. We are Anatolians our people have always been their but change of ideas have happened. End of the day we are still the same blood
Well my roots are from Mersin and Hatay.. I still cluster with pontics through dna test 😏
@@b.g.9158 well you definitely have Yoruk and arap genetics
@@imortalis544 that is nonsense, I a mostly Anatolian according to the test
ELLINES not greitchland grrrr Greece Ellas ellinique en francais ellenic in english
I am from a Greece and i know that ….we are every wear and so turkey our fight we are here and exist
Osman is an Arabic name not Turkish
Turkified name, originally it was Uthman
@@bumin6451 Everything is turkified
@@geogeo2299 good thing isn’t it 😉
@@bumin6451 he meant copied by the turks duh
@@wankawanka3053 copied? those names are the names of the companions of the prophet Muhammed just like greeks use christian names we use muslim names.
That was Greece , history please > learning. Turkish is from Mongolia
Greeks are from Afrika 3 millions years ago and came to Europe.
Shopane
Karadeniz pontustur Yunanistan bizim anavatanimiz
He says dont record me, and you says no im not , this just record your voice,you lie him, he afraids to be recorded
Descendants of Mithridates Eupator
There are 2 types of Black Sea greeks: 1) greek-speaking Romeas of Turkey and Crimea, 2) turkish-speaking Urums of Turkey and Crimea. Most of them were Turkish-speaking at home / in family, but Greek-speaking in the church (their lithurgy, tombstones and church inscriptions were in Greek). Crimean Urums speak Crimean Tatar, and Pontic Urums speak Azerbaijani Turkish.