@@elfzknn Yani Arte'den bekliyorum daha profesyonel olmalarini. Kaldiki Arte'nin türkiyeye karsi iyi niyetli olup olmadigindan genel olarak pek emin degilim.
@@Traumstunde Türk düşmanı bunlar zaten bizi canavar gibi göstermeye çalışıyorlar. Bilerek çeviri hatası bile yapmışlar. Bütün Türk düşmanları da yorumlarda zevkten salyaları akmış
As a Turk I’ve read the translation in disbelief. 3:23 on this part he’s saying in Turkish “şu anda memnunuz” which means “we’re content right now” or “we are fine right now” WHICH WAS TRANSLATED AS “There has been so much tragedies” !? And then he proceeds to say “but of course everyone left” with a giggle at the end. Many efforts to make us look bad.
That was wrong, but they don't really have to try to make Turks look bad, the entire documentary makes the point that Turkish nationalism has been disastrous and doesn't seem like it's going to end any time soon
Betweeen 1912 - 1923 there was war, followed by a population exchange, during war civillians (on both sides) suffer. But what is unforgiveable is that during the following century, during peacetime, the majority of the Christians and later the Jewish population was squeezed out, not through massacres, but through a heavyhanded bureaucracy that economically ruined many families (Varlik Vergisisi in 1942), Istanbul Pogroms (1955) and 101 other means.
Some interesting information: "Roum" comes from the Greek word "Romaios", which means "Roman". This is because the "Byzantine Empire" was, in fact, the Roman Empire in the east. Contrary to popular belief, Rome did not fall in the fifth century but survived until the conquest of Constantinople by the Ottomans in 1453.
Byzantine empire had nothing to do with Rome. Confirmed by the fact that the Roman Empire of the west NEVER came to the rescue during the siege of Constantinople by the Ottoman savages. Only mercenaries came who got paid and not the official Roman army. Which could've easily surround the jannisary savages and destroyed them. In fact thePope had made arrangements with the Ottomans not to interfere. LATINO POUTANES ALWAYS GREEK HATERS! THROUGHOUT THE AGES!
Rome did not end with the fall of Constantinople but went on as a moslem empire. The Ottoman sultans considered themselves as Roman emperors= Sultan of Rome was one of their titles. If one accepts a christian Rome, Why not a moslem one? If one accepts a greek speaking eastern rome, why not a turkish speaking one? The problem lies with western christian historians who were not able to accept orthodoxy or islam. But the greek speaking greeks of the Ottoman empire considered themselves as Roumi- Romans till the end. The core of the problem is that gradually, following the centuries, most of the Roumis adopted Islam and gradually became turkish speaking . If, todays turkish population is 90 millions , the population of Greece is around 10-12 millions. Guess why?
There are a few reasons why the Ottomans are not considered the continuation of Rome. First, the Ottomans were an exterior force that conquered the Roman state. Second, the Ottomans had their own unique culture. They did not use Roman law; their political culture operated quite differently; their language was of Central Asian origin; and their religion, Islam, was born outside the bounds of the empire. Finally, perhaps the most compelling reason why the Ottomans are not considered a continuation of Rome is that they reduced the native Roman population to second class citizens. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not claiming that there is no relation between the Ottoman Empire and Rome, but the connection between the two is not particularly strong.
@@rosskourtis9602 Hi, history student here. The Byzantines no longer had "Roman" traditions by the 15th century. They had been nothing like what Rome was. The Ottomans claimed the title by conquest, since they were controlling "Roman" land. Hence why the "Sultanate of Rûm (Rome)" also called themselves roman.
@@ergungeyikdagi3392 some education of roman history wouldnt hurt you. sto spreading turkish propaganda. there are no Roman ottomans. You came from far east
The guy in the 3:27 literally says "We're glad now" in Turkish. But the translation is "There's been so much tragedy". Greek and Turkish people are brothers. False media and post truth won't manage to ruin this again, I hope. Sending warmest greetings from Turkey to Greece. ı hope we'll stay strong and with solidarity against this lamest, cringest propoganda shit. And for my part, as a half Greek, I'm deeply sorry about the past. But If we may forgive each other, we'll built a way better future!
greeks are balkan, turks come out majority middle eastern in dna test. I dont know why but you turks have a hate mania and an admiration mania with the greeks which greeks dont understand. Greeks actually dont occupy themselves at all with you... Greeks say italians are una facia una racca aka same face same race... not turks... and you arent . turks are more closely related to caucasus and middle east nations not greeks. You only have a small land border with greece . I cant understand why you think you are the same with us...
I was going to write the same. Looks like he being happy is not enough drama to translate. Relax, this doesnt mean I dont acknowledge there was a lot of tragedy. Arte classifies this video as a documentary. If it was a drama then okay but if you call it a documentary then it is biased as they have not documented (translated) an important part.
The hate between them will never stop, it's not easy to forget the past . Religion and beliefs are different so no way these two countries can be friends or live together peacefully.
The greeks of turkey are referred to as Rum(Romans) amongst the muslims as always, the Greeks of the west are referred to as Yunan (Ionians) now; taken from Persia who referred to all Greeks as "Ionian" Greeks Yunan
We call Greeks from Greece yunan and we call Greeks in north turkey rums even tho most rum people in Turkey don’t even know that rum is linked to Greek heritage Greeks from west turkey are callled gocmen (immigrant) they mostly have selanik ancestry
Dear @@Alaryil Hellenes, Greeks, Yunans are some of the many ethnonyms of the Greeks. Ottomans had no idea who the Greeks were and I doubt they were even familiar with the concept of nationality. Every christian in the territories were occupying, was a... Rum, not only the Greeks! When the Greek revolution started the Rums of Syria had to explain to the Ottomans that they were 'Rums' but no Yunans, in order to avoid punishment... :(
Little error in the documentary : The turkish military operation for the capture of Northern Cyprus took place in 1974. By that time, most of the greek minority was already forced to leave Turkey.
True Mr. Kavak: the confusion arose because of the terrible events in Cyprus in December 1963. Turkish nationalists became very angry with the Greeks so in 1964 they forced all Istanbullu Greeks who were not Turkish citizens to leave. This is why there were fewer Greeks left by 1974.
@@efstratiosfilis2290 You don't know the facts From the second world war, the Greeks were sent to labor battalions in Anatolia They were almost all exterminated. Also in 1955 there was also a great massacre of Greeks. In general, the Turks genocided the Greeks for over 500 years. Millions of victims, unique in world history.
Most Greeks left Turkey after the pogroms of 1955 . Turks say "it is happy the one who calls themselves a Turk and miserable anyone who is not a Turk and not a Tourist in Turkey. Turks cannot psychologically deal with minorities. Look what they have done to Kurds and more recently to Arabs.
@efstratiosfilis2290 you are very very wrong the Greeks of Konstantinouloli left on September 7 ... because a turkish thug went to mustafa kemal's home in Thessaloniki and ""planted" alarm clock preventing that is a bomb... the national turkish radio broadcast gave the fake news ...the turks of Konstantinoupoli went crazy and started burning all prominent Greek bussiness killing old people.... that was the reason which the Greeks left your God forsaken country and still you never panished for crimes and genocides you committed against humanity..... i hope you all live 2 hundred years but with tremendous and unbarable pain!!!!!vermin.....
A funny story. In my homeland Trabzon - Çaykara, a small town in the Blacks region where there are no Christians left, almost everybody knows and speaks Romeika. A Black Sea version of Pontic Greek. For the replacement of the Greek residents of the island of Imbros (Gökçeada) the government had a great idea, to move hundreds of Muslim families to the island at the beginning of the 1970s. My own uncle was also among those with his family. He lived there and died there. Here is the story. Right at the beginning of this Muslim migration, there are still no community places for them to gather and chat. Therefore they go to the cafeterias of the local Greek residents to spend time. One night, my father visiting his bigger brother, joins them while they sit in one of those cafeterias. One of the members of the new immigrants (not known to be very much intelligent) speaks to his fellow men in Greek and says that "Lets speak Romeika so that these guy won't understand what we are talking about". He interestingly thinks not speaking Turkish will hide what he is talking about, but never having an idea he has moved into the Greek population. This sentence is heard clear and loud by all the people in the cafeteria including the Greeks and one of the elder talks in return again in Greek saying "This guy is a big donkey". My father still tells us this story after 50 years and we listen to the story with tears in our eyes, laughing out loud.
Biz Türkler topraklarımızda can vermiş ve bizim toprağımızda yatan yabancı askerlere bile bizim oğlumuz ve evlatlarımız diyecek kadar mertiz, bu topraklarda yaşayan her etnik grup bizim canımız ve kanımızdır .
Let all foreigners read about the pogrom of the Turks against the Greeks of Constantinople in 1955, September 6. The Turks forced the Greeks to change their surnames by putting the suffix oglou. The Greeks had a very difficult time in Turkey. Oppression, pain, death . in 1924 there were 400,000-500,000 Greeks in Constantinople alone and today it is 3000-4000. That says it all.
Yes we can’t say that the Turks had a very difficult time in Greece, because most of them were massacred earlier between 1800-1922. So you harvest what you sow.
@user-sf4ps3si7m you anatollian gypsies did worst..The genocide against the native Albanians of northern Greece...like the Cams..killed and raped ...burnt their houses and the rest who survived got expelled to turkey in population exchange...the ones who remained had to change their names and religion...you ain't bull shiting no one because the reality is difrent ...
@@krbn80 Poor occupiers am I right! I'm sure if hypotheticaly Greece occupies all of Turkey tomorrow you'll be very hesitant to rise up against them following your argument, or are you a hypocrite?
@@PotDylan First of all, I am not Turkish in origin. I just lived there, studied them, and admire things about them. I have enough empathy (and also professional expertise) to see how blatantly there is an ongoing propaganda and demonization against Turks. Most of the comments under this video are extremely one sided. Greeks are not aware they are made to hate Turks only because they survived the Turkish rule for almost 1000 years, but they actually didn’t survive the Roman rule. Can you imagine what Carians, Pisidians or native Cypriots would have to say, if they survived the persecutions of the Roman church? So, instead of blaming the “Roman occupation” which wiped out all identities of the region, Greeks choose to blame the “Turk occupation” that allowed them to exist even longer than the whole Orthodox rule. So it seems to be a fault on their side, right? Because Greeks don’t remember how they were Greekified 1500 years ago, but they remember how they were NOT Turkified in the last 1000. But of course, “remember” is not in the literal means. What we remember or not remember about history, is only determined by the authorities. We “remember” what they want us to know, and most of the time they want us to know either more or less than what actually happened.
@@krbn80 I won't even read this..not pushing any narrative myself just defending my land and history when people say bullshit. If you occupy someone you don't get to call it genocide or ask for empathy from the occupied when they rise up...keep to yourself and you won't have any problems with Greece invading you. Also I couldn't care less where you're from all I care about is that you present my history accurately or shut your mouth if you don't have the right knowledge and mindset to talk about it.
The most important thing to remember is that it all used to be Greek at one point Orthodox Christian and tolerance now it's Turkish with no tolerance they made recently the whole Hagia Sophia a mosque not to mention that turkeys in the northern part of Cyprus since 1974
The same for you. Whole Greece was a province of Ottoman Empire for 400 years. Hundreds of mosques were build in Greece wich only few survived till today and thousands of Turks had to leave whole balkans after the Ottoman empire collapsed. You still deny the ethnical roots of the Turks in western Thrace and call them "Muslim greeks", wich is bullshit. Not to mention your try of ethnical cleaning of turkish cypriots after 1960 by EOKA B. terrorists for to realize your fascist dream of "ENOSIS".
@@ILTERIS630 Really?? which ones?... By the British invaders perhaps?? Certainly not by Greeks.. they were the underdog.. remember the Crusader knights that ruled Cyprus for years before the Brits?? Your knowledge of Cypriot history is abysmal..
While Greece honoured her signature in the Treaty of Lausanne of 1923 and kept alive and safe the turks who live inside the Greek territory, the Greeks of Turkey were mαssacred by the thousands and now left around 400 to 500 people.
@@GokhanGursel-eu1xm wtf are you talking about if a greek isnt turk he wont call himself a turk wtf are u saying most greeks got next to no turkic dna what are u on about mate
@@mrsilver3176 Greece does not even want the Turks of Western Thrace to be called Turks, they are Muslim Greeks! If those people call themselves Turks, they are Turks, what do you care about DNA?
The irony of French media producing a documentary for Rums. Even though the French, the British and the Russians were the ones who sowed the seeds of discord between the Rums and the Ottomans. Painting the image that they want to paint. A prime example of the quote: The history is written by the victors. P.S. It is Rums, not Roums. From the turkish Rum Millet. That translates to "The Roman Nation".
Haven't you heard about the hundreds of revolts before the French, British, and Russians would even consider of ''sowing the seeds''? Haven't you heard about the rise of nationalism in like all the countries in the world?
Oh, how can all forgot that it's French, English and Russian are made genocide of Rumei people, French, English and Russian destroy Trebizond Empire and conquered Constantinople, Nikea, Prussa, Smyrna, Magnesia, Sinop, Amasia, Samsounta, Trapezounta, Panderma and many other Rum cities, turn holy churches into mosques etc. Bingo, it was English, German and Russian! Thank you for the truth, i'm only sad about many grandparents that were forced to leave their homeland by ottomans and my relatives that were slaughtered by ottomans, that they can't hear the truth about who exactly was the cause of all their troubles!
So what? That was two hundred years ago. The fact remains that Anatolia has been ethnically cleansed from its Greek inhabitants by Turkish ultra-nationalism in the last 200 years, and I'm saying this as someone who is half-Turkish. I love Turkey, I love its natural richness, I love its cuisine and Turkish hospitality, but we won't grow wiser by ignoring and denying our past wrong-doings.
My parent's was born in Tayfour no to far from kalipoly , I was visited with my Father 20 years ago , he says to me the turkish people have nothing to this village looks worst than before the Greek people left, it was for me very painful to see it. My Father cry many time and till we left.
@@koordrozita7236 How is that any different from all Anatolians, Cypriots and Hellens converted to Christianity? (or the rest of Europe and South America for that matter.) You think it was nice when Pagans were hunted and burnt by the churches, but when people convert to another religion, it is devilry now? If Anatolians, Phoenicians, Egyptians, Mesopotamians were not invaded and destroyed by Hellens and Persians, they would probably start using electricity by the time we call “the Dark Ages”.
Great documentary despite mistakes in translations and some misinformation. I hope French broadcasts also "dare" to prepare something on how they subordinated and nearly eliminated the Britannique - Basque - Burgundy and Provence cultures along with others in its territory. I am sure France will be a more democratic country when it also acknowledges its genocides in its colonial territories. The experiments they did on Algerians. The way they made Haitians suffer. etc.
Collective memory is something invaluable and sacred, not only for us Greeks, but humanity as a whole. It is only a matter of time, until the official restoration of historical truth and justice, in memory of those countless innocent victims - souls, that were lost in sorrow, pain, complete silence and in the shadows (specially women, children and the elderly). It is a matter of ethics and morality. Far beyond ethnicities, races and religions. Not a matter of hatred and revenge, primarily a matter of memory and justice. IAGS has already passed a relative resolution, recognizing the extermination and deportation of the Christian people as Genocide. The notable book “The Thirty-Year Genocide: Turkey’s Destruction of Its Christian Minorities, 1894-1924”, is another step towards the restoration of historical truth.
One thing I noticed about the earlier part of the video where the Greeks who live on the island were interviewed is that the man said “but currently, we are quite happy” (living here”…the subtitles refused to reflect that.
Does that make up for all the crimes committed against them ? You only emphasised on this part which might be true or they are afraid to say the truth due to more backlash. Anything to say about the injustices these people suffered ?
@@Gatar47858 First things first: respectfully, Greeks were not helpless victims, are you not aware of the massacres the greeeks carried out During the decline and dissolution of the Ottoman Empire? Muslim and Jewish inhabitants (including Turks, Kurds, Albanians, Bosniaks, Circassians, Serb Muslims, Greek Muslims, Muslim Roma, Pomaks) living in Muslim-minority territories previously under Ottoman control often found themselves persecuted after borders were re-drawn. These populations were subject to genocide, expropriation, massacres, religious persecution, mass rape, and ethnic cleansing. Albanians who were persecuted, expelled and massacred, they still reflect upon the atrocities 80 years on. you should have a read of “Massacres during the Greek War of Independence” - The Greek Massacres of Turks, Albanians and other Muslims (and Jews). And perhaps a paper from 1990 published by International Human Rights Watch - “DESTROYING ETHNIC IDENTITY: THE TURKS OF GREECE” regarding the human rights violations and persecution of Turkish minorities who still live in Greece. Where ethnic Turks are not allowed to rebuild their places of worship/communities, in Turkey, orthodox churches are taken care of beautifully, Greeks are not stripped of their Turkish nationality/citizenship, like Turks and non-Greeks are in Greece for no reason/and in violation of laws.
@@Gatar47858 what do you mean by “more blacklash”? Did you not watch the video? Greeks don’t receive backlash in modern day Turkey. Just like one of the men stated, they would never go back to live in Greece, I’m not sure where your sheltered perspective comes from, it’s almost like you view Turkey in the same light as North Korea, where people would be persecuted or killed due to their dissatisfaction with the gov/human rights etc.
@@Gatar47858 lastly, (hypothetically) if they were “afraid” to say the truth or not, the fact of the matter is, it’s very calculated, misleading, one-sided, and divisive for the broadcaster to leave that part out. …it leaves ignorant/uninformed viewers none the wiser.
Its funny how the turks back in 1955 kicked out the 150.000 greeks living in constantinople, but in greece we have the same amount of turks living and working in greece, enjoying the same rights as the locals.The greeks of constantinople lost their houses, jobs everything and were never compensated for their losses.
Greece literally builded its first mosque(if you call that a mosque tho) in 2021 😂. Wow. Like they are considered as muslim minority not Turkish. And even though there is a declsrstion from european human rights court to recognize Turkish minority. It has been 16 years and no action from greece. Yeah thanks. Not to mention all the Turks killed in 1821. Like in Morea... you guys the aggressor but somehowbyou turn out to be victim.
@@jackholler3572 I am really sorry that we were occupied by the Ottoman empire from the 1350s until 1831 against our will, and had to pay 3x (sometimes even more) taxes more than the taxes that muslim people in the Ottoman empire had to pay to the Sultan of the Ottoman empire. I am very sorry that every one of the ~300 attempts to regain our independence from the Ottoman empire was drowned in its own blood. I am sorry that the Ottoman empire forcefully systematically took the children of revolutionary greek people away from their parents, brought them to Turkey, and made soldiers out of the,. We were clearly selfish and we have always been the aggressor and play the victim! I assure your majesty that we will not do it again. Please accept our apologies! 😁
@@jorgepeters7474 Yeah last time I checked you guys attacked Turkey. After ww1. Oh sorry that we just msde a popluation exchenage with greece. I dont understand how you became the victim when literally Turks were also expelled from greece but no one is saying forced migration 🤣. However Turks in morea genocided by greeks. Sorry that we did not do the same like you do. Your religious and nationalistic riot against ottoman empire is not an act of heroism. Just a pathetic backward riot with ethnic cleansing motivations. Nothing more. We are now seeing its result. A state who exists with only anti Turkish propaganda
@@tomorrowneverdies567 Non-muslims were paying 2.5% more than the muslims 🤦♂️ In other words, muslims went to wars, and if they survived, they returned home and started working. Those war veterans paid 2.5% “muslim” tax. And the non-muslims who never went to wars, got married, founded/inherited their businesses, and built their heritage, paid 5% “gayrimuslim” tax. Also, Turkish army made a coup in 1960, to take that “Nato-ally” Prime Minister down. They court-martialed him, and then HANGED him for his crimes, primarily the ‘55 pogrom. Now can you please tell me what Greece did to the responsibles of the hundreds thousands of muslims massacred in Greece during 1800s? Or, have Greeks even been condemning the culprits behind the terrorist militant organization EOKA-B, who massacred and persecuted Turkish Cypriots for 10 years, attempted assassinations to Makarios (the Archbishop and President of Cyprus), perpetrated the ‘74 COUP in Republic of Cyprus and caused the division, also assassinated the US ambassador Rodger P. Davies and his secretary in Cyprus in 1974? Or you commemorate them as heroes?
@@krbn80 " Non-muslims were paying 2.5% more than the muslims " - I do not believe that all non-muslim people everywhere in the Ot.empire payed the same taxes. But I can tell you from what I have read, that at least occasionally, people in Greece (non-muslim) payed huge taxes. "And the non-muslims who never went to wars, got married, founded/inherited their businesses, and built their heritage, paid 5% “gayrimuslim” tax." - I am sorry, but this does not take into account what I said above, and also many other things, such as the fact that a turkish person could lawfully order a greek or other non-muslim person to carry them on their backs (as they did), and many other injustices towards the non-muslim populations. What massacres of "hundreds of thousands" did Greece do during the 19th century exactly? Evidence? "Or, have Greeks even been condemning the culprits behind the terrorist militant organization EOKA-B" - of course I do. "Or you commemorate them as heroes?" - I do not even know what they did. The point of my previous comment was to demonstrate to the person above, that greek people at least between the 14th and 19th centuries can hardly be considered as aggressors, as they were under a brutal and tyranical occupying regime of the Ot.empire. I never claimed that greek people are saints, and that they have never killed other people. For example emperor Basil II poke the eyes of the remaining bulgarian soldiers after they lost a battle in the year 1025, and sent them back to their king in Bulgaria, who killed himself when he saw them. Or, the famous massacre of Tripolitsa (modern day Tripoli, Peloponese, Greece), in September 1821, where muslim (turkish?) and all of its jish population was massacred by the rebelious greek forces (totally ~6k to 12k people), even children and old people and women, some of which were burnt alive in their houses. However, please notice that such events do not simply happen because the perpetrators are "bad people". The turkish, jish and greek people there knew each other for ~40 years. And they (apparently) were so badly treated all their lives, so horribly, that they wanted to kill these people. Please do not misunderstand me. I would never justify unnecessary violent actions. Today, turkish and greek people have the best relations. But as you see, this was not the case between the 14th and 19th centuries, under these circumstances, where people had different rights and obligations, and different identities. TR ❤GR
Turkey is no exception. Look at the Christian communities in all muslim countries. Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan... A history of constant persecution...
Lebanon is almost 50 percent Christian. Maybe more as there is not an accurate account recently Christians have actually been treated with great respect untill the west funded groups like ISIS, Al shabab, Al nusra, al quida, the taliban, HTS..... I could go on. But from the Iotola of Iran, to Alshabab in Africa. Persocution of Christians would not be happening without the geopolitical greed of our leaders. Also NATO is the worst enemy of orthodoxy and has resulted in millions dead. From Georgia to Serbia, to putting Ukraine against Russia. Additionally, who is bombing churches in the holy land...? Muslims or Israel...? It's isreal
Nope. Syria is 7% Christian and many escaped Turkey due to the persecution of Christians and Armenians in the early twentieth century by the Young Turks. There is a church in every corner when you walk in any major Syrian city.
@@gabriels6795 Lebanon used to be more than 50% Christians but Muslims took over the Government and all the local elections and slowly pushing Christians aside and out of any control of the country.
@@alexa3322 Cry about it we had 17 empire no country on earth had it We are the reason Chına made great wall we split rome we destroyed eastern rome Pope begged us to not burn rome we didnt atleast maybe you should pray we didnt do that we could have changed your language like France and UK did to others or asimilate we didnt Western countryies must shut up always when they talk to us their war crimes nothing beside us
Greeks are known as the destroyers of anatolian civilizations. Troy is the great example of this. Turks hate greeks armenians and french. This is true.
The number of Greeks living in the Asiatic portion of the Ottoman Empire (Asia Minor) in the early part of the 20th century was approximately 1.780.000. The official ottoman statistics of 1910 had the figure at 1.777.146. According to Katherine Elizabeth Flemming, in 1919-1922 the Greeks in Smyrna numbered 150.000, forming just under half of the population, outnumbering the Turks by a ratio of two to one. Alongside Greeks and Turks, there were sizeable Armenian, Jewish, and Levantine communities in the city. Constantinople numbered 260.000 citizens of Greek origin. The rest were scattered in urban centres of Cappadocia, Bithynia and the Pontic region. Note that these people were native in these lands with a heritage of millenniums. Only 1.200.000 civilians made it to mainland Greece. The rest were exterminated in what is registered as the “Greek genocide”.
The invasion of Greek land in 1453 was nothing short of a tragedy! Ayia Sophia in Istanbul is sacred and should be returned to its rightful owners. Turkey needs to step up and do what is morally right. It’s that simple. 🇬🇷 🇹🇷
What about the total destruction of anatolian civilizations like troy and hittites. They were massacred because they were not Greeks. I hope one day you will learn about your real ancestors.
@@hakan_ozen But please enlighten me. When and how did the Hitites fell? Give me some of your sources since you are an expert on the subject. I really wanna learn mate.
@@artetvdocumentary you have to delete this is fakenews .. reupload the truth with correct Translation this is illegal .. greeks are fine people but you are haters with bad Intention .shame on you
Turkey is a Master in ethnic cleansing ... Actually it is also fair to say that there is no thriving minority (christian or not) in a muslim majority country
Your greeks are also very good in it. Thousands of Turks had to leave whole Greece after Ottoman empire collapsed. Dont forget your try of ethnical cleaning in Cyprus by EOKA B. terrorists
@@kikistefanidou3371 I know how painful it is to eradicate a whole culture, language, traditions, and people from the lands they have lived for centuries. I share the pain of the Greek and the whole Rum millet that had to leave their homeland in the early XX century. As I also can empathize with the pain of my fellow Macedonians who were either expelled from their homeland in modern northern Greece or aggressively assimilated.
Turkish speaking Greeks, what a shame, after the disappearance of millions of Greeks from Asia Minor with a presence in these lands for 5,000 years..shame.
They live in a terrorist state. They have to do it ,so they can survive,work, make art . The teacher propably is forced to participate to the turkish celebration. They have a lot of courage to speak about greek minority and work to keep the herirage alive. They are brave
@@georgek7510 5000 years ago, indo-european tribes were chasing rabbits in the steppes. Anatolian Romans were the Anatolian natives who were assimilated by the Roman church after 300CE. So, just like how they were forced to speak Roman language, they can switch to another one. Neither are their ancestral language anyway.
@@krbn80 Way before Rome was important, the ancient Greeks made collonies in most Anatolian coasts. Have you ever visited a turkish museum? These Greeks in Anatolia who later became part of the Byzantine empire are way older than you think
@@TMPOUZI Occupying Lydian and Carian coasts makes them important? :) To me, it sounds more like they first arrived as the unwanted refugees in today’s Europe. The ones that your soldiers mow down at the beaches. Hellens become important gradually after 500BCE, and that went on until Rome. Most of the earlier developments were coming from the Carians, Lydians, Lycians, Troyans, (and Phoenicians). Such as the Milesian school… The civilization was spreading from Anatolia, not Greece. That’s why the Ionians progressed earlier, Hellenistic architecture started there, and then it spreaded to Greece. Similarly that’s why the Persians, Macedons, Romans, they all focused on Anatolia, not Greece.
Will there be a future episode of Turkish minority living in Greece? What struggles and pains they've had? And I want the same biased translation like on 3:27 here please. The guy says 'we're happy now' and the translation says "there's been lots of tragedies"😂 please also do it on the Turkish minorities episode ...
@@dzevadbayraktar322 Serbs don't have Turkish genes even Muslims from Bosnia and Raska don't have Turkish genes. Some Turks have Serbian genes since many Serb kids were kidnapped to become Yannichars and they had families in Turkey. Such example is Mehmet Pasha Sokoli and Omer Pasha Latas and many others.
@@dzevadbayraktar322 Serbs might have Turk, Armenian and Greek genes because of turks kidnapped Serbs, Armenian and Greek children and slaved young girls.
there are some parts in subtitles that was translated incorrectly or so on purpose. There were so much tragedies on both sides and in 1974 Turkish government didn't invade northern Cyprus but saved thousands of Turkish lives and protected their rights to live on the island rather than having a mindset that we had to conquer all the land there and it must belong to Turks.
Nothing is forgotten. Everything is recorded and registered as the “Istanbul pogrom”. One notable article over the criminal operations orchestrated against the Greek people of Constantinople is by Aykan Erdemir, 7th September 2016; "The Turkish Kristallnacht" (Politico Europe).
Average nationalist like you say that turkeys lands belong to the greeks like what the hell are we supposed to do go back to central asia or something?
@@Traurigzwz-cw4vx What the heck are you talking my friend? Am I a liar? Have you ever read some history about Asia Minor? These areas are Greeker than Greece itself hahaha. If you do not like facs, go sleep my friend. We will return, we buried our Fathers and Mothers in Pontos...you have no right to stop us. As simple as that. You can call my Nationalist, what ever you like. At the end, the barbaric disg us ting liars hypo c rats are you. Who the heck are you haha? We are Children Asia Minor, you are from mongolia. Besides, no one talk about war hahaha? We will return, you like or not. We continue.
@@Traurigzwz-cw4vx You can go whereever you like. Yes Mongolia sounds good haha we will not stop you. What do you excpect to tell you ? Give freedom to the Kurds, Armenians, give freedom to Greeks. We can begin with this...be human and then we can see.
We do never forget 6 milion european muslim at 1912 declared nationless people with the aim of complete deletion by christiansfor nobody remember them. later killed and exiled from europe, greece, balkans, their lands, villages to Anatolia and caused all the bad things. the biggeet genocide of history.
Nothing to take seriously, subtitles include things that not said by interviwees, and of course lots of information without any context. typical cheap,mediocre european propaganda product. i realy would not want to make "what-aboutism" but a good benchmark is that when greece gained independence, and doing that with mass killing the Turks in todays greece, other Rums continiued to live as they were as members of the empire in İstanbul and Anadolu. when İstanbul and Anadolu was occupied by the allies and greece, many Rums cheered and welcomed them. Not a single rational human being in the world would expect peace and comfort among communities after that. To summerise, Minorities like rums and armenians etc. in Türkiye failed the honour test when the Turks were weak and likely to lose everything, as communities as whole, did not act as 'Neighbours'. Ultimately Turks survived against all odds and traitors' act did not pay off.
My Brother, can you define who is a Turk? Are you a Mongol? When the Turkish race came into the picture, how many years ago? Do you know how old is the Greek race? When the Mongols came the Greeks were already there? You mentioned about Greek independence. Let me give you this example: I come to your hose I take everything you have, I take your children, I steal you land your farm, I make you my slave. What do you think - Do you want to reclaim what was taken from you? At what cost do you want to gain your independence? You talk about Istanbul, was Hagia Sophia there prior to the Turks? Do you know what Istanbul mean? Istan - to Bul/Poli - City. At that time there was no other city like Constantinople you needed mot to say the name - you only needed to say "I am going to the City" Brother have you done a DNA test to see how much of Greek blood is in you?
You understand how contradicting everything you wrote is, right?? You literally say Greeks "massacred" Turks in their war of independence. So you admit they were enslaved for centuries but "oh bad slaves, they killed people to get their freedom and their land back, how dare they?" 🤡
This video is really inaccurate and weird with translation errors. Fact: the population exchange of Greeks in Turks against Turks in Greece was formally proposed by the Greek Prime Minister Venizelos: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_exchange_between_Greece_and_Turkey Also, from treatment of the Greek orphanage in the island to other bits that scream "every Turk is evil", there is a political reason regarding reciprocity between Greece and Turkey. Greek government is doing the same in their country for Turks.
Look, I hate to say it because it could be hurtful to people especially if the turkish government finds it distasteful that the bonds between Greeks and turks was usually with turks of the Greek persuasion that turned turk usually by some sort of forceful persuasion... Not with the rare turcik people if there were any to be found.
@@tomorrowneverdies567bu Yunanlar Türk halkının İslam'a geçip Turklesen Rumlar olduğunu söylüyor.Bu tarz evlilikler oldu,fakat çocuklar babaları gibi Türk büyüdüler .Benim soyumdada var Ama ben Türküm net..Bunlar anlamak istemiyor .
ben ingiliz im, turklere yapilan dunyaca haksizliklardan bahsettim, 37 yildir Turkiye de yim , sizlerin ne kadar tolere ettiginizi yazdim , izmir de neler yaptiklarini yazdim, beni silmisler, herkes TURK DUSMANI DEGIL DOSTUM.
As a Turk, i would suggest you look for another translator. French-English part is pretty well, actually, but that isn't the case for Turkish-English. These lands belong both Turks and Greeks since they've lived together for centuries. I hope the Turkish government doesn't try to eradicate this nearly forgotten customs. The country is already filled with migrants all over the world. And these are the real people who belong to this country rather than those who couldn't even understand Turkish at all, imho. Shame as the economic crisis deepens, the rate of childbirth dwindles. There won't be many Turks left in the end. It's the same with West. They are losing against the sheer numbers. So do we... Well, no one is going to live forever.
You entered I n n.syria n.iraq stealing Native's homes and killing them. Who should be shame? Stop invasions genocides racistic crimes and stealing all INDIGENOUS races and your neighbors. Enough with U
Roum, or Rum, means Romans. The ancestors of all Greeks living today called themselves Romans for almost two millennia. There was never a people calling themselves "Byzantine". There was a Roman Empire in the East whose people called themselves Romans (Romaioi, Romioi) and their nation Romania (land of the Romans). Remnants of these people exist not only in Turkey but in all of the Middle East.
@AKRITAS365 Because the eastern Roman empire was a Greek part and the western part was a Roman one. Roman's always helped the turks against the Greeks . Even today Italy (if we suppose they are the descendants of Roman's) support turkey and Albania against the Greeks. It is all time the same scenario.
@@ΙωάννηςΕλ turks believe they're all alone in this, and everyone's against them... whenas greeks were always the ones left alone in all conflicts, tricked into the lion's cage...
As an ancient Indo-European neighbor of Greeks and Armenians) I wish that Anatolia would go back to its IE roots, and we would once again be neighbors❤Love from Persia/Iran ❤ 🇮🇷❤️🇬🇷 😮❤🇦🇲
Sen kimsin götü boklu iranlı. Ben Türkiyenin İrana sinir kenti olan Vanda yaşıyorum. Burada her türlü özgürlüğü buluyorsunuz İranda yaşayamadığıniz yapamadığınız her şeyi Türkiye de yapıyorsunuz. Kadinlariniz burada fahişelik yapiyor. Türkiye size kapiyi açıyor ama halen daha burayı kötülüyorsun. Pislik köpek. Türkiye laik bir ülke isteyen dinini istediği gibi yaşıyor. isteyen de dinsizliğini istediği yaşıyor. Türkiye de olan özgürlükler sizin ülkenizde olmadığı için Türkiyeyi köpek gibi kıskanıyorsun değil mi doğruyu söyle. Klasik Müslüman kıskançlığı. En ornek Müslüman ben olayım. Diğer ülkeler hep arap ülkeleri gibi zayıf ve baskıcı olsun ya da kendi ülkeniz gibi molla rejimi ile yönetilsin istiyorsunuz değil mi ? Aşağılık pislikler
@@ragadu0847tarihimizi bile çalmaya çalışıyor bu aptallar ne beklersin ki Türkiye’nin bunları sınır dışı etmesi lazım akıllansınlar en büyük Türk düşmanıdır bu İranlılar liderlerinin cesedini bile türkiye buldu türkiye olmasa onu da yapamayacaklardı biz çok vicdanlıyız bunlara karşı gerçekten
true, being descendants of big ancient civilizations, I always feel very close to my Persian colleagues. Even my neighbors are from Iran and they are the best neighbors ever!
A lot of the subtitles are very wrong, some even seem to be written wrongly on purpose, possibly as part of an anti-Turkish rhetoric. Still, greetings from a Greek Orthodox in Turkey
These are not the last Greeks in Turkey. There are no last Greeks in Turkey because most of the inhabitants of Turkey are Greeks who were forcibly converted to Islam so as not to be slaughtered. There are 35-40 million Greeks in Turkey, and 30-35 million Kurds. The rest are Armenians, Assyrians, Persians and Jews. The real Mongolian Turks are not more than 5 million.
@@Pyrrhic537 The Greeks even in Greece when the Ottomans were here did not mix with them and because of that they had an awareness of their glorious past which made them look down on the Ottomans, but mainly because of religion. The Greeks of today's Turkey are all crypto-Christians and they only marry crypto-Christians. A DNA test solves many such problems and that is why it is prohibited in Turkey, because the Turkish state wants to present the Turks as a nation.
So many twists and turns in your tale to find a way to insult Turks. Still not creative enough though. How many Turks in Greece live by your logic? After hundreds of years many Greeks have Turkish DNA too. Be a big boy and accept it. Because once you do that lasting peace will follow. I wish more Greeks were able to return to their homeland as well as Turks back to Greece. Maybe possible sometime this century.
Most Christian and European nations really don’t care. They’re willing to support anyone for the right price. It’s a really important part of GREEK history.
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Greeks and Turks have lived together for centuries. The majority of Turkish people do not have any hatred towards Greeks. Some politically instigated groups are trying to create hatred between these two neighbors through their rhetoric and by distorting what is being said, as your channel does. They may not have genetic commonalities, but they have many common cultures and traditions. This situation exists all over the world; some groups feed on polarization and hostility. But that doesn't stop me from reminding you that journalism must be done impartially and with integrity.
And you watced just a small part. All Turkey is Greek. All monuments ,ancients and byzantines, the most beaurifulls neoclassik houses are greeks. There is no end
True, the Greeks suffered greatly from the Turks. Consider that in Constaninople in 1924 there were 500,000 Greeks and today there are 3,000. Read a little about the pogrom that the Turks did to the Greeks of Constantinople in 1955, September 6.
Iam a half Greek half Georgian in Samsun turkey but my nationality is Turkish if someone asks me where Iam from I just say Turkish my grandparents can speak laz georgian dialect and rumeika but they didn’t even know where the language belonged to😂 they always tought it was a village language only spoken in their village .old Turkish genarations are ignorant they don’t care about their ethnicity or about the monuments around them and their history. I know allot of rums who will get angry when you call them anything else than Turk I know allot of Armenians who pretend to be Kurdish and laz acting like they are Balkan descent , its so weird turkey is one big mixed soup and no one has normal and true information about their past only stupid village stories, old people keep their mouth shut or they tell a made up story,but recently I see something even weirder new genarations bragging about the country where their grandparents migrated from like it’s a flex😂 meanwhile their grandparents where deported from that place for being Muslim but they don’t even know that part we lack of knowledge even when a big ass monument is located in our front yard almost Turks will not give a f about it
My grandmother always told me that her parents would go the the church at Sunday and to the mosk at Friday they would eat wild pork while reading the Koran everyday, that’s how word turkey was in the past and still is and the ironic part is that the biggest erdogan supporters in the country are Pontic Greeks,gypsy Romani’s and Georgians/Circassians
@@Alaryilright my family are circassians from turkey they support erdogan, and the have no idea who the circassians are 😂, I hope turkey will be multi culture again
My best friend is a very patriotic Turk of Laz descent. They are brothers to us. His father had me as a guest when I came to Turkey & later I went to his mother's funeral. That lady loved me like I was one of her children!
İlk siz Türklere gösterin sonra biz size gösteririz yorumlara göre Türklere saygınız yok Türklerin size saygı göstermesini beklemeyin saygı karşılıklıdır
@@levantenee ne dediğim belli yorumları okursan Yunanlıların Türkler hakkında söylediklerini anlarsın gelmiş birde saygı bekliyor adam bu yorumu yazdığına göre okuma yazman yok Lan
Turkey invaded Cyprus in 1974 not 1964. Some translations of Greek were off but very nice and informative documentary , the work done overall is amazing . Thank you.
😂. And archeologists are discovering new things all the time, we are also descended from Şaka people and they've discovered DNA in eastern Anatolia to that effect.
I clicked on this video out of curiosity, but the editorial style disappointed me. The one-sidedness of this video just disgusted me. No one mentions the atrocities committed against the Turks. All the suffering in the history of this land is mutual. When the Greek state invaded the Anatolia in 1919, the Ottoman Greeks supported them. The Turks saw their Greek neighbours wearing Greek uniforms and going to slaughter Turks. When the Greek army failed in Anatolia, the Ottoman Greeks set their own lands on fire and fled to Greece. In addition, millions of Turks living in the Balkans were either slaughtered or forced to flee to Anatolia; as their mosques were destroyed. Turks do not tell these stories again and again, and hold grudges against the Balkan nations. Because the nationalist spirit of the time led to such actions for both sides. Being a whiny does not benefit anyone. The effort to portray Turks as monsters is the work of westerners, especially those who overly sanctify ancient Greece and ancient Rome. The Greeks, sadly, always allow the westerners to make them dream of nostalgia. As a secular Turk, I have no problem with my Greek brothers and sisters. But this kind of documentaries always reminds me: no matter how much you want to be a secular, peaceful and humanist Turkish citizen, in the eyes of westerners you are always a barbaric Turk. Anyway, so be it... I think the biggest weapon of us Turks is that we don't care about unjustified bad things said about us. ''Peace at home, peace in the world''
Who where the Turks in Balkan? You mean the Albanians, who where oppressed both by th Greeks and the Turkish. Still to this day neither Greece or Turkey does not recognise the Albanian community that used to live or still lives in their territory.
Yes, I am alway struck by how no one mentions the mass slaughter and ethnic cleansing of Turks by the Greek nationalists encouraged by the British, only to be betrayed by the British.
Why don't you mention 5 years before 1919 that when Greek army landed in Izmir where Greeks were the more tha half majority, Turks has already began systematic ethnic cleansing Greeks from1913. You Turks massacred 1.5 million Armenians in 1915 alone, massacred one million Greeks from1913 to 1921. It was Turks who set Izmir on fire. Witnesses even saw Turks pouring oil on Greek civilians who didnt escap and setting them on fire. It was old practice of Turks to destroy Greek villages by fire. In 1913, Turks burned down several Greek villages in Pontus region of Black Sea.
Greek-populated Imbros was supposed to be self-governing per the Lausanne Treaty, but of course the Turks didn't honor that, either, resulting in the importation of mainland Turks as well as the creation of an open-air prison in the 1960s. The prisoners that terrorized, raped and murdered Greek islanders while the Turkish government appropriate properties, forcing many to flee to Greece.
According to Lausanne Treaty Western Thrace was also accepted as self governing region. As it was not realized bu Greek Authirities Turkey took the same action
Nase kala patrioti mou pou zis stin omorfi Elliniki Smyrny tin TOTE, den ksero pos eine tora efxome nase kala kai o theos na sas prostatevei apo kakous anthropous.
Kardesim izmirin antik anadolu dilindeki ilk adi Eismyr dir. Smyrna bunun yunanca bozmasidir. Bizi Binlerce yildir yunan yapamadilar. Yakisiyormu sana hic. Nerde truva ruhu hani, asimile olmayi red eden canakkale ruhun
@@SerdarOktay-ig9zs facts!! try George Horton Asa Jennings and yr Ziya Gökalp "the principles of turkish " mentor to yr paw, nice guy that paw of yrs a criminal teacher to adolph
its sad but its a very complex story. Turks in Greece had to leave after world war 1 , no Turk left in Crete, and there are some Turkish villages left in Greece but they are not allowed to call themselves as Turks, Muslim minority they are called, i dont know now but you could not visits the villages without getting authorisation of Greek State.
For the Palestine-Israeli wars, Koç Holding moved away from the heroin production business at the Divan Hotel. Their arms trade helped a lot with the Ottoman heirs around the world.
Greeks originated in helas not anatolia the only advantage the Greeks had over turks is they arrived before turks and they only settled in costal areas in significant numbers.
I'm Turkish. I have a Greek friend Stelyo who lives in Athens. He is an average Greek nationalist. We met online but that didn't stop us from loving each other. We talked a lot about history and culture and one day we both decided to take a DNA test. The result was that I was 44% Western Anatolian, 19% Albanian, 37% Greek, while my friend Stelyo, a Greek nationalist, was only 40% Greek. The rest was all Anatolia and Mesopotamia. I don't know if we are brothers, but we are definitely cousins.
The translation is full of errors. There are many parts untranslated or mistranslated. Please correct. This is a disservice to Greek interviewees in the video and what they actually express regarding shared memory and culture…
Ottoman empire was occupied by French and British in world war 1 , after that it was never the same, Thanks god Thesaloniki born Ataturk founded Modern Turkish Republic.
My family is from Western Türkiye and a DNA test showed that my families heritage is divided mainly into 4 regions: Iran, Anatolia, Greece and Italy. 😊
Bu senin atalarının problemi Seyit, tepemizdeki terör örgütünü destekleyen Fransızların bariz propaganda amaçlı çektiği belgeselde Türk olmadığını devşirme olduğunu söylemekten çekinmiyorsun, ilginç...
@@John-r6c1k you ain't no Lebanese..youre a zionist gypsie who lives in Lebanon and you think you're Lebanese...hppe that the zionists F..your gypsie mother and sister's
@@apostolosmisailidis8187 The invasion of Cyprus was a result of the coup and annexation by Greece. If the Greek Junta did not try to annex whole Republic of Cyprus, there would be no Turkish invasion and division. But if there was no Turkish invasion, there would be no Republic of Cyprus today, because it would still be annexed by Greece, and many Cypriots from both communities would be dead or oppressed till today, as they had been since 1963. Stop manipulating history as you see fit, and first accept your own nation’s faults before blaming the others.
In greece,the greek gouverment dont recognize the Turks!!they say(greek gouverment)that they are greek who convert to islam!!so ARTE,just be once CORRECT!!!if you(ARTE)are a journalist,look in greece and Turkiye,and tell me how many mosque are open in greece and how many churchs in Turkiye??? Because greece is EU member,that doesnt mean that you dont have to be honest!!
same goes for turkey, we are referred as türk by laws. we carry turkish passports, in our constitution every national is a türk so its kinda stupid that you wrote that...
@@MIKRASIATISSA tell me how many mosque are in athens??ore in all greece???how many churchs are open in Turkiye??please dont be greek nationalist and just be honest!!
@@myway2843 Greece has more than 300 active mosques in Thrace for the religious needs of the officially recognized Muslim minority living there. There are muhtars, mayors and even governors who are Turks. I'm being objective, you aren't. & that actually breaks my heart because you're also my people.
The United Nations divided Cyprus in 1964 due to violence from Greek Cypriots, particularly those supported by Greece and the EOKA organization. However, despite the establishment of the Green Line (a no-man's zone separating Greek and Turkish communities), attacks continued. As a result, Turkish troops invaded the northern part of the island 10 years later, in 1974. Turks have always been seen as second-class citizens in the eyes of many Greek Cypriots, where the Greeks are considered the masters and the Turks the servants. Because of this, there is no going back, as the Greeks will never fully accept the Turks, despite the fact that they have lived on the island for 500 years. So tragedy at both sides. not only Greeks
A monumental tragedy for the region and (even most of them do not see it) for Turkey themselves. Turks allowed and in many cases gladly joined the organized pogroms of their government against Greeks. They can find some redemption by lifting all the restrictions imposed to the Greek minority even today and to provide incentives for the community to survive and grow again. But I am afraid that is exactly what they do not want to see happening
The arrivals of turks in anatolia and levant, nearly 1000 years ago due to the "bankrupted" romania, was a humanitarian disaster for the greeks and the civilization. Now the region instead of beeing part of the greko-roman civilization is a country of the most despotic mindset, defined in the language and religion.
The fact that Turkish people started doing all these ancestry DNA tests and the results are showing Greek DNA by 30% up to 70% in some cases, is enough to show what has been going on the region the last thousands of years. Christians who were forced to become Muslims and were gradually Turkified, in order to turn against their own people and push them out of the region. Greeks have been living in these lands for thousands of years, since Homer, and were all brutally exterminated or fell victims of ethnic cleansing, alongside the Armenians who suffered the worst Genocide. And Turkey is not able to recognize anything, even though the Armenian Genocide has been accepted around the world.
@@Traurigzwz-cw4vx You are right, there is no exclusive ''Greek'' or ''Turkish'' DNA. But let me put it this way, the DNA of most Turkish people is much more similar to that of the ancient Greeks (a connection that modern Greeks have as well) than to that of the ancient Turkic people.
@st-craftbeats8374 Artık kesin sesinizi yeter ya. Güzel bir ülkeniz var, yapacak başka işiniz yok gibi hala Türkler deyip duruyorsunuz. Şu nefretinize bir son verin artık. Gelin Türkiye'yi ziyaret edin, biz sizden nefret etmiyoruz. Ama bizi rahat bırakın artık.
Trop bien...je viens de passer 5 semaines en Turquie et en Chypre...et effectivement le plan ignoble avant et depuis la république c'est de laisser à l'abandon tout ce qui n'est pas clairement turc... n'importe l'origine et quand on parle de l'Antiquité il n'y jamais un rapport avec la population autochtone de jadis... sympa de voir les efforts que quelques uns font à part de l'histoire et la politique actuelle. Très bonne émission !
Be a good person, be a good neighbor, be a good friend. Greeks and Turks have many common cultural traditions, food, music and our look alike are generally the same. Nationalism is a poison and it will destroy our human feelings.! With ❤ and respect for all Greek neighbors
Yunanlıların yaptığı yorumları görmedin sanırım Türkiye onlarınmış Türkler soykırımcıymış kendileri asıl Türklere soykırım yaptı komik bizim atalarımız bu topraklar için canını verdi Yunanlılara yedirmem ülkemi
The Americans in the middle of the politics they practice are capturing our politicians. The biggest example today is Ukraine. I hope we don't make the mistakes of Ukraine. Peace neighbor.🤝
@@TheodoreIosifidis-gx4qb my family are rumeika speakers from Samsun most of those people don’t know that rumeika is a Greek dialect they think it’s a Caucasian or made up village language only spoken in their village. also many of them will get angry if you call them Greek old genarations know about their heritage but they simply don’t care and are ignorant those Muslims Pontic Greeks in turkey are the biggest erdogan supporters of the whole country they have weird traditions like shooting with guns in the air for no reason and are very stubborn sarcastic people
@@Alaryil visited last year and loved it and I didn’t leave Matsouka/trabzon it seems everyone knew what I was and knew that we were the same. I assume they love erdogan because he is one of them also it’s safer to be more nationalist that everyone else when your the one who’s different
@TheodoreIosifidis-gx4qb They are all janissaries fully knowing of their hellenic ancestry and dna yet they are still fanatic Greek haters! which confirms what brainwashing can do to one's mind!!!
@@CezeriElKurdi my understanding is that Kurds were also involved in the genocide against Pontos Greeks and Armenians. Do you know if that is true from your grandparents?
@@alexa3322 that's not true because my grandparents were alsın genocided. .if that was Right why turkey at least is not giving lands of victims to their grandchild's?
@@alexa3322 Turks don’t admit to the massacres they committed against the Kurds or Armenins as well.. For the period when at least 1.5 million Armenians were killed, they say, 'We did not t do anything... they migrated and died along the way.' Do you believe that, for example?
@@CezeriElKurdi I am glad it wasn’t . We love our brother Kurds even if we don’t have same religion. We feel your pain. You are proud and ancient native people of the region that suffered and still are a lot.
I spent almost 8 years working in Istanbul from the early 2000s. Although I would regard the Turks (then) as some of the friendliest people on earth, they did try to hide their nationalistic and xenophobic tendencies. Although they do have many skeletons in their closets (the Armenians and Greeks, notably), they are quick to criticise Israel and the USA. A Turk will criticise the UK for the once mighty British Empire and its attendant results, forgetting that the Ottoman Empire also colonised nations and forcibly converted many to Islam, among other things.
There's a difference between understanding that your country might have colonized most of the world, therefore not blaming anyone else for their genocides and discarding the idea that your country had likely genocided on other people, therefore blaming Turkey for its "supposed" genocide
Yes this is true. It's all good until you bring up a ''difficult'' subject. The difference is that in Greece they teach about the massacres against the Turks in Tripolitsa and other places and they tell you it's a horrible event. While in Turkey, children are taught that there were no genocides, and that the Turkish people never did any harm to anyone.
is your greek friends tell you how to kill 2 million turks and muslims? or armnians how do they revolt with the help of russia and killed housands of pople??? xenophobic tendencies behaviour is not in vain . there are traumas lies behind this . think about that.
Turks like real Muslims, when the Greeks were strong and owned the economic activities of Constantinople, they did the pogroms. Now that a thousand Greeks live there, they play the card of respecting minorities...
I don't think Turks are "real Muslims". I would add that they never were..... They only play the Islam card. The Arabs don't like them. They see them with suspicion and mistrust, and they have plenty of reasons. Just look at Gaza right now. The oil that Israel uses comes from Azerbaijan, a turkic country, and travels through Turkey, another turkic country. Meanwhile Erdogan cries on camera. At the same time, Turkey occupies Syria, a real Muslim country, and is messing around with Libya, another real Muslim country.
@@OstasHs It is simple ! The numbers! After Lozan document between Turkey and Greece in Greece from 10.000 Muslims today in Greece we have 120.000 Muslims.In turkey in Istanbul from 500.000 Greeks we have 3000. Why?
@@K.I.O.5555 I think I misinterpreted your statements in the first place. In your original statement when you stated "they play the card of respecting minorities..." by "they", do you mean the Turks?
in turkiye there are rum schools, and they can speak but if we want we can change their language like frenchs did or russians did or british did... like leave this propaganda we tired of this.
omg, stop believing yourself into that, that's what this documentary aims. this documentary never mentioned the positive developments between greece and turkey since early 2000s. no one is scared to speak what language they have, maybe just the kurds are the ones that are afraid. you can hear and see greek in pera(beyoğlu) and islands of istanbul. also agia stefanos(yeşilköy). if you would like to come here I'd love to give a tour of beautiful old greek neighbourhoods, schools, churches and islands.
@@beickus most probably you've just seen the historical peninsula(worst for me) and got scammed by some people like all the tourists. Why do I care anyways
There is no turkish civilization. Turks only expanded their lands by oppressing others. They didnt offer something to humanity. Only wars ans pain and islam
you really should be more informed about ottoman empire's politics on religious minorities, before nationalism came over. what you wrote is very hurtful and rude. it's been a long time and we commemorate it every september.
Most repopulated Macedonia after WW1 and many/most Bulgarians left but that’s all in the past and we all have to just leave things as they are now. My father’s family left Kostur region for Bulgaria and it’s a very beautiful area but they made good in Plovdiv. I’m in USA and after so many years of hatred, Bulgarians and Greeks especially the young are great friends now and it’s better that way. Hopefully it lasts for as many years as the hatred and that was a thousand or more…all people have suffered in the Balkans. My father’s village no longer exists, only the bell tower of the Bulgarian church remains. Took me a lifetime to forgive and forget…
You forget slavovulgare that Macedonia is undisputed Hellenic land .You deny the fact that you were invaders and not indegenous to Macedonia. You occupied Macedonia by military collaboration with turkey and Russia during the st Stefano treaty when all Macedonia was allocated to Bulgaria. The name of the city is Kastoria not kostur! Or solun for Thessaloniki!! Changing the original Macedonian names into slavobulgarian names proves you are Macedonian NOTHING!
@@akritas365Since when are you indigenous to Macedonia? Modern Greeks came from same place as Slavs. Macedonia repopulated by Greeks from Turkey. Greeks are not a homogeneous people either. Are Cypriots the same as you? If Greeks are so civil and united, explain to everyone why you killed more of each other in the civil war after ww2 than the number of Greeks that the Germans killed. Are you so arrogant that people can’t use their own language and names? The Greeks in USA may now call themselves Tom or Thomas and not Antanas or Constantine is now Gus? Dimitrios is Jim? Stavros is Sam? You may be Greek but seem more like a Gypsy…
Bulgarians turned against greeks , massakrdd a lot of them, wanted to conquer Macedonia and Thessaloniki, greek aria and city from ancients times. Even turk passa who signed for Thessaloniki to be greek again , he told to the bulgars, that "...we took the city from greeks, we give it back to greeks "
@@sofiatsinari2122 since when do you believe a Turkish Passa? The fact is during the Ottoman occupation Macedonia was populated by different peoples. An international area of different peoples living in their own cities and Towns. Salonica was mostly Jewish that the Turks welcomed from Spain when they were forced to leave. Where are they now? Macedonia was similar to Switzerland except not an independent country and what was wrong with that. Greece was a tiny country before the Balkan Wars, why? Don’t tell me about 2,000 years ago.,You are not the same people and ancient Greeks were also different tribes constantly fighting. Ever hear of Athenians vs Spartans and their ongoing wars?
@@akritas365 It is you who forget that the greek people inhabiting the greek part of Macedonia today, are the descendants of the settlers (I repeat: settlers, once again, settlers) who were brought by the greek governments from Asia Minor and the region of Pontus of the Black Sea in the years 1912-1923, to resettle the area, because of the defeat of Bulgaria in the second balkan war of 1913, and the exchanges of populations with Turkey and Bulgaria of those years. They are therefore not descendants of the ancient Macedonians. I repeat for you: the greek people living in greek Macedonia, are settlers from Anatolia, and have no genetic relationship to ancient Macedonians. So just like slavic Macedonians of North Macedonia, they have absolutely no genetic connection to ancient Macedonians. You can therefore either call both "Macedonia", or you must stop calling greek Macedonia "Macedonia". I have chosen to call both North Macedonia, and greek Macedonia with that name. So next time 1. be more knowledgeable about history, and 2. be more polite to people who have done you no harm. Greetings from Athens, Greece. I am 100.00% greek in case you wonder.
@@TurquazCannabiz Hmm...but the Altai region is not in turkish hands. I mean ..if nobody can stop you, you could at least "liberate" your ancestral homeland.
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Türkiye or Turkiye ...... Arte is unprofessional
@@Traumstundesence tek sıkıntı bu mu
@@elfzknn Yani Arte'den bekliyorum daha profesyonel olmalarini. Kaldiki Arte'nin türkiyeye karsi iyi niyetli olup olmadigindan genel olarak pek emin degilim.
@@Traumstunde Türk düşmanı bunlar zaten bizi canavar gibi göstermeye çalışıyorlar. Bilerek çeviri hatası bile yapmışlar. Bütün Türk düşmanları da yorumlarda zevkten salyaları akmış
You should watch out Gemans Racist System!!! And the killing in Israel!!! Türkiye is a beautiful country!!! 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
As a Turk I’ve read the translation in disbelief. 3:23 on this part he’s saying in Turkish “şu anda memnunuz” which means “we’re content right now” or “we are fine right now” WHICH WAS TRANSLATED AS “There has been so much tragedies” !? And then he proceeds to say “but of course everyone left” with a giggle at the end. Many efforts to make us look bad.
tipik batı propagandası bizi canavarlaştırmak. Asıl insanlara zulmeden batı oysaki
That was wrong, but they don't really have to try to make Turks look bad, the entire documentary makes the point that Turkish nationalism has been disastrous and doesn't seem like it's going to end any time soon
This is true.
Betweeen 1912 - 1923 there was war, followed by a population exchange, during war civillians (on both sides) suffer. But what is unforgiveable is that during the following century, during peacetime, the majority of the Christians and later the Jewish population was squeezed out, not through massacres, but through a heavyhanded bureaucracy that economically ruined many families (Varlik Vergisisi in 1942), Istanbul Pogroms (1955) and 101 other means.
@@jean-zq2wgThere is nothing to your business here. Turkey, as the name suggests, is the country of Turks. It is quite normal to love our nation
Some interesting information:
"Roum" comes from the Greek word "Romaios", which means "Roman". This is because the "Byzantine Empire" was, in fact, the Roman Empire in the east. Contrary to popular belief, Rome did not fall in the fifth century but survived until the conquest of Constantinople by the Ottomans in 1453.
Byzantine empire had nothing to do with Rome.
Confirmed by the fact that the Roman Empire of the west NEVER came to the rescue during the siege of Constantinople by the Ottoman savages.
Only mercenaries came who got paid and not the official Roman army.
Which could've easily surround the jannisary savages and destroyed them.
In fact thePope had made arrangements with the Ottomans not to interfere.
LATINO POUTANES ALWAYS GREEK HATERS! THROUGHOUT THE AGES!
Rome did not end with the fall of Constantinople but went on as a moslem empire. The Ottoman sultans considered themselves as Roman emperors= Sultan of Rome was one of their titles. If one accepts a christian Rome, Why not a moslem one? If one accepts a greek speaking eastern rome, why not a turkish speaking one? The problem lies with western christian historians who were not able to accept orthodoxy or islam. But the greek speaking greeks of the Ottoman empire considered themselves as Roumi- Romans till the end. The core of the problem is that gradually, following the centuries, most of the Roumis adopted Islam and gradually became turkish speaking . If, todays turkish population is 90 millions , the population of Greece is around 10-12 millions. Guess why?
There are a few reasons why the Ottomans are not considered the continuation of Rome. First, the Ottomans were an exterior force that conquered the Roman state. Second, the Ottomans had their own unique culture. They did not use Roman law; their political culture operated quite differently; their language was of Central Asian origin; and their religion, Islam, was born outside the bounds of the empire. Finally, perhaps the most compelling reason why the Ottomans are not considered a continuation of Rome is that they reduced the native Roman population to second class citizens.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not claiming that there is no relation between the Ottoman Empire and Rome, but the connection between the two is not particularly strong.
@@rosskourtis9602 Hi, history student here. The Byzantines no longer had "Roman" traditions by the 15th century. They had been nothing like what Rome was. The Ottomans claimed the title by conquest, since they were controlling "Roman" land. Hence why the "Sultanate of Rûm (Rome)" also called themselves roman.
@@ergungeyikdagi3392 some education of roman history wouldnt hurt you. sto spreading turkish propaganda. there are no Roman ottomans. You came from far east
Did you deliberately mistranslate the places where they speak in Turkish?
Subtitles for turkish speaking parts are all over the place. 90% of the translation is wrong, also misleading in a comical way.
Typical western propaganda channel
The guy in the 3:27 literally says "We're glad now" in Turkish. But the translation is "There's been so much tragedy". Greek and Turkish people are brothers. False media and post truth won't manage to ruin this again, I hope. Sending warmest greetings from Turkey to Greece. ı hope we'll stay strong and with solidarity against this lamest, cringest propoganda shit. And for my part, as a half Greek, I'm deeply sorry about the past. But If we may forgive each other, we'll built a way better future!
greeks are balkan, turks come out majority middle eastern in dna test. I dont know why but you turks have a hate mania and an admiration mania with the greeks which greeks dont understand. Greeks actually dont occupy themselves at all with you... Greeks say italians are una facia una racca aka same face same race... not turks... and you arent . turks are more closely related to caucasus and middle east nations not greeks. You only have a small land border with greece . I cant understand why you think you are the same with us...
ARTE is not false media. When from 2.000.000 there remain 2.000 one must question himself.
I was going to write the same. Looks like he being happy is not enough drama to translate. Relax, this doesnt mean I dont acknowledge there was a lot of tragedy. Arte classifies this video as a documentary. If it was a drama then okay but if you call it a documentary then it is biased as they have not documented (translated) an important part.
There will never be peace for as long as someone like erdogan continues his aggressive rhetoric
The hate between them will never stop, it's not easy to forget the past .
Religion and beliefs are different so no way these two countries can be friends or live together peacefully.
The greeks of turkey are referred to as Rum(Romans) amongst the muslims as always, the Greeks of the west are referred to as Yunan (Ionians) now; taken from Persia who referred to all Greeks as "Ionian" Greeks Yunan
We call Greeks from Greece yunan and we call Greeks in north turkey rums even tho most rum people in Turkey don’t even know that rum is linked to Greek heritage Greeks from west turkey are callled gocmen (immigrant) they mostly have selanik ancestry
Yunan is not a Persian but an Arabic word meaning Ionian.
@@AlaryilRum people definitely know they're linked to Greece but consciously disassociate themselves from that country
Dear @@Alaryil Hellenes, Greeks, Yunans are some of the many ethnonyms of the Greeks. Ottomans had no idea who the Greeks were and I doubt they were even familiar with the concept of nationality. Every christian in the territories were occupying, was a... Rum, not only the Greeks!
When the Greek revolution started the Rums of Syria had to explain to the Ottomans that they were 'Rums' but no Yunans, in order to avoid punishment... :(
Mehmet II who conquered Constantinople spoke Greek alongside Turkish, Arabic and Persian. He declared himself the Caesar of Rum.
Little error in the documentary : The turkish military operation for the capture of Northern Cyprus took place in 1974. By that time, most of the greek minority was already forced to leave Turkey.
True Mr. Kavak: the confusion arose because of the terrible events in Cyprus in December 1963. Turkish nationalists became very angry with the Greeks so in 1964 they forced all Istanbullu Greeks who were not Turkish citizens to leave. This is why there were fewer Greeks left by 1974.
@@efstratiosfilis2290 oh i see, i will look up the events in 1963. Thanks for the infos. 🙏
@@efstratiosfilis2290 You don't know the facts
From the second world war, the Greeks were sent to labor battalions in Anatolia
They were almost all exterminated.
Also in 1955 there was also a great massacre of Greeks.
In general, the Turks genocided the Greeks for over 500 years. Millions of victims, unique in world history.
Most Greeks left Turkey after the pogroms of 1955 . Turks say "it is happy the one who calls themselves a Turk and miserable anyone who is not a Turk and not a Tourist in Turkey. Turks cannot psychologically deal with minorities. Look what they have done to Kurds and more recently to Arabs.
@efstratiosfilis2290 you are very very wrong the Greeks of Konstantinouloli left on September 7 ... because a turkish thug went to mustafa kemal's home in Thessaloniki and ""planted" alarm clock preventing that is a bomb... the national turkish radio broadcast gave the fake news ...the turks of Konstantinoupoli went crazy and started burning all prominent Greek bussiness killing old people.... that was the reason which the Greeks left your God forsaken country and still you never panished for crimes and genocides you committed against humanity..... i hope you all live 2 hundred years but with tremendous and unbarable pain!!!!!vermin.....
Video Arte niyetli hazırlanmış!
Bu sırtlanlardan iyi niyet beklemek enayiliktir.
A funny story. In my homeland Trabzon - Çaykara, a small town in the Blacks region where there are no Christians left, almost everybody knows and speaks Romeika. A Black Sea version of Pontic Greek.
For the replacement of the Greek residents of the island of Imbros (Gökçeada) the government had a great idea, to move hundreds of Muslim families to the island at the beginning of the 1970s. My own uncle was also among those with his family. He lived there and died there.
Here is the story. Right at the beginning of this Muslim migration, there are still no community places for them to gather and chat. Therefore they go to the cafeterias of the local Greek residents to spend time.
One night, my father visiting his bigger brother, joins them while they sit in one of those cafeterias. One of the members of the new immigrants (not known to be very much intelligent) speaks to his fellow men in Greek and says that "Lets speak Romeika so that these guy won't understand what we are talking about". He interestingly thinks not speaking Turkish will hide what he is talking about, but never having an idea he has moved into the Greek population.
This sentence is heard clear and loud by all the people in the cafeteria including the Greeks and one of the elder talks in return again in Greek saying "This guy is a big donkey".
My father still tells us this story after 50 years and we listen to the story with tears in our eyes, laughing out loud.
Biz Türkler topraklarımızda can vermiş ve bizim toprağımızda yatan yabancı askerlere bile bizim oğlumuz ve evlatlarımız diyecek kadar mertiz, bu topraklarda yaşayan her etnik grup bizim canımız ve kanımızdır .
keşke çoğunluk sen gibi düşünse ama düşünmüyorlar.
*justice for greeks, armenians, kurds...*
Let all foreigners read about the pogrom of the Turks against the Greeks of Constantinople in 1955, September 6.
The Turks forced the Greeks to change their surnames by putting the suffix oglou. The Greeks had a very difficult time in Turkey. Oppression, pain, death .
in 1924 there were 400,000-500,000 Greeks in Constantinople alone and today it is 3000-4000. That says it all.
Yes we can’t say that the Turks had a very difficult time in Greece, because most of them were massacred earlier between 1800-1922. So you harvest what you sow.
@user-sf4ps3si7m you anatollian gypsies did worst..The genocide against the native Albanians of northern Greece...like the Cams..killed and raped ...burnt their houses and the rest who survived got expelled to turkey in population exchange...the ones who remained had to change their names and religion...you ain't bull shiting no one because the reality is difrent ...
@@krbn80 Poor occupiers am I right! I'm sure if hypotheticaly Greece occupies all of Turkey tomorrow you'll be very hesitant to rise up against them following your argument, or are you a hypocrite?
@@PotDylan First of all, I am not Turkish in origin. I just lived there, studied them, and admire things about them. I have enough empathy (and also professional expertise) to see how blatantly there is an ongoing propaganda and demonization against Turks.
Most of the comments under this video are extremely one sided. Greeks are not aware they are made to hate Turks only because they survived the Turkish rule for almost 1000 years, but they actually didn’t survive the Roman rule.
Can you imagine what Carians, Pisidians or native Cypriots would have to say, if they survived the persecutions of the Roman church?
So, instead of blaming the “Roman occupation” which wiped out all identities of the region, Greeks choose to blame the “Turk occupation” that allowed them to exist even longer than the whole Orthodox rule.
So it seems to be a fault on their side, right? Because Greeks don’t remember how they were Greekified 1500 years ago, but they remember how they were NOT Turkified in the last 1000.
But of course, “remember” is not in the literal means. What we remember or not remember about history, is only determined by the authorities.
We “remember” what they want us to know, and most of the time they want us to know either more or less than what actually happened.
@@krbn80 I won't even read this..not pushing any narrative myself just defending my land and history when people say bullshit. If you occupy someone you don't get to call it genocide or ask for empathy from the occupied when they rise up...keep to yourself and you won't have any problems with Greece invading you. Also I couldn't care less where you're from all I care about is that you present my history accurately or shut your mouth if you don't have the right knowledge and mindset to talk about it.
2.000 Greco-Romans left, to remind us of Byzantium's unmatched and everlasting glory.
Rofl
Ottomans protect that greeks stop lies
@@giannisgiannopoulos791 The glory that was ended by the Latins in 1204?
@@krbn80 Pretty much
@@krbn80 there is no such thing as latins. wtf, who u try to teach what? you should first learn urself
The most important thing to remember is that it all used to be Greek at one point Orthodox Christian and tolerance now it's Turkish with no tolerance they made recently the whole Hagia Sophia a mosque not to mention that turkeys in the northern part of Cyprus since 1974
The same for you. Whole Greece was a province of Ottoman Empire for 400 years. Hundreds of mosques were build in Greece wich only few survived till today and thousands of Turks had to leave whole balkans after the Ottoman empire collapsed. You still deny the ethnical roots of the Turks in western Thrace and call them "Muslim greeks", wich is bullshit. Not to mention your try of ethnical cleaning of turkish cypriots after 1960 by EOKA B. terrorists for to realize your fascist dream of "ENOSIS".
There are no words, it’s a tragedy!
Can you also talk about the massacres committed against the Turks in Cyprus?
Name some
Nothing comes close to what turkey did@@ILTERIS630
@@ILTERIS630 Really?? which ones?... By the British invaders perhaps?? Certainly not by Greeks.. they were the underdog.. remember the Crusader knights that ruled Cyprus for years before the Brits?? Your knowledge of Cypriot history is abysmal..
While Greece honoured her signature in the Treaty of Lausanne of 1923 and kept alive and safe the turks who live inside the Greek territory, the Greeks of Turkey were mαssacred by the thousands and now left around 400 to 500 people.
600k turks how they die ?
Yes, I'm sure it was. By the way, according to Greek authorities, there are no Turks in Greece, because Greeks do not want to be called Turks.
@@okhanuludag When and where?
@@GokhanGursel-eu1xm wtf are you talking about if a greek isnt turk he wont call himself a turk wtf are u saying most greeks got next to no turkic dna what are u on about mate
@@mrsilver3176 Greece does not even want the Turks of Western Thrace to be called Turks, they are Muslim Greeks! If those people call themselves Turks, they are Turks, what do you care about DNA?
The irony of French media producing a documentary for Rums. Even though the French, the British and the Russians were the ones who sowed the seeds of discord between the Rums and the Ottomans. Painting the image that they want to paint. A prime example of the quote: The history is written by the victors.
P.S. It is Rums, not Roums. From the turkish Rum Millet. That translates to "The Roman Nation".
Haven't you heard about the hundreds of revolts before the French, British, and Russians would even consider of ''sowing the seeds''? Haven't you heard about the rise of nationalism in like all the countries in the world?
Oh, how can all forgot that it's French, English and Russian are made genocide of Rumei people, French, English and Russian destroy Trebizond Empire and conquered Constantinople, Nikea, Prussa, Smyrna, Magnesia, Sinop, Amasia, Samsounta, Trapezounta, Panderma and many other Rum cities, turn holy churches into mosques etc. Bingo, it was English, German and Russian! Thank you for the truth, i'm only sad about many grandparents that were forced to leave their homeland by ottomans and my relatives that were slaughtered by ottomans, that they can't hear the truth about who exactly was the cause of all their troubles!
PERFECT COMMENT!
So what? That was two hundred years ago. The fact remains that Anatolia has been ethnically cleansed from its Greek inhabitants by Turkish ultra-nationalism in the last 200 years, and I'm saying this as someone who is half-Turkish.
I love Turkey, I love its natural richness, I love its cuisine and Turkish hospitality, but we won't grow wiser by ignoring and denying our past wrong-doings.
Turk alert.
The last Greeks of Anatolia and Konstantinopolis who are not in denial! There are millions of Greeks Converted to Islam just like Damat Ibrahim Pasha!
NOPE SLAVE OTTOMANS RULED YOU PİGS WHY TOLERATE MU ANCETOR TO YOU
My parent's was born in Tayfour no to far from kalipoly , I was visited with my Father 20 years ago , he says to me the turkish people have nothing to this village looks worst than before the Greek people left, it was for me very painful to see it. My Father cry many time and till we left.
@@koordrozita7236 How is that any different from all Anatolians, Cypriots and Hellens converted to Christianity? (or the rest of Europe and South America for that matter.)
You think it was nice when Pagans were hunted and burnt by the churches, but when people convert to another religion, it is devilry now?
If Anatolians, Phoenicians, Egyptians, Mesopotamians were not invaded and destroyed by Hellens and Persians, they would probably start using electricity by the time we call “the Dark Ages”.
@@koordrozita7236 Where is Constantinopolis?? Did you mean Istanbul??
@@nacirizagolu741 Where is "Yunanistan"? Did you mean Greece?
Where is "Turkiye"? Did you mean Turkey?
Great documentary despite mistakes in translations and some misinformation. I hope French broadcasts also "dare" to prepare something on how they subordinated and nearly eliminated the Britannique - Basque - Burgundy and Provence cultures along with others in its territory. I am sure France will be a more democratic country when it also acknowledges its genocides in its colonial territories. The experiments they did on Algerians. The way they made Haitians suffer. etc.
Collective memory is something invaluable and sacred, not only for us Greeks, but humanity as a whole.
It is only a matter of time, until the official restoration of historical truth and justice, in memory of those countless innocent victims - souls, that were lost in sorrow, pain, complete silence and in the shadows (specially women, children and the elderly). It is a matter of ethics and morality. Far beyond ethnicities, races and religions. Not a matter of hatred and revenge, primarily a matter of memory and justice.
IAGS has already passed a relative resolution, recognizing the extermination and deportation of the Christian people as Genocide. The notable book “The Thirty-Year Genocide: Turkey’s Destruction of Its Christian Minorities, 1894-1924”, is another step towards the restoration of historical truth.
One thing I noticed about the earlier part of the video where the Greeks who live on the island were interviewed is that the man said “but currently, we are quite happy” (living here”…the subtitles refused to reflect that.
Does that make up for all the crimes committed against them ? You only emphasised on this part which might be true or they are afraid to say the truth due to more backlash. Anything to say about the injustices these people suffered ?
@@Gatar47858 First things first: respectfully, Greeks were not helpless victims, are you not aware of the massacres the greeeks carried out During the decline and dissolution of the Ottoman Empire? Muslim and Jewish inhabitants (including Turks, Kurds, Albanians, Bosniaks, Circassians, Serb Muslims, Greek Muslims, Muslim Roma, Pomaks) living in Muslim-minority territories previously under Ottoman control often found themselves persecuted after borders were re-drawn. These populations were subject to genocide, expropriation, massacres, religious persecution, mass rape, and ethnic cleansing.
Albanians who were persecuted, expelled and massacred, they still reflect upon the atrocities 80 years on.
you should have a read of “Massacres during the Greek War of Independence” - The Greek Massacres of Turks, Albanians and other Muslims (and Jews).
And perhaps a paper from 1990 published by International Human Rights Watch - “DESTROYING ETHNIC IDENTITY: THE TURKS OF GREECE” regarding the human rights violations and persecution of Turkish minorities who still live in Greece.
Where ethnic Turks are not allowed to rebuild their places of worship/communities, in Turkey, orthodox churches are taken care of beautifully, Greeks are not stripped of their Turkish nationality/citizenship, like Turks and non-Greeks are in Greece for no reason/and in violation of laws.
@@Gatar47858 what do you mean by “more blacklash”? Did you not watch the video? Greeks don’t receive backlash in modern day Turkey.
Just like one of the men stated, they would never go back to live in Greece, I’m not sure where your sheltered perspective comes from, it’s almost like you view Turkey in the same light as North Korea, where people would be persecuted or killed due to their dissatisfaction with the gov/human rights etc.
@@Gatar47858 lastly, (hypothetically) if they were “afraid” to say the truth or not, the fact of the matter is, it’s very calculated, misleading, one-sided, and divisive for the broadcaster to leave that part out. …it leaves ignorant/uninformed viewers none the wiser.
That's the only thing you can say about the video?
Its funny how the turks back in 1955 kicked out the 150.000 greeks living in constantinople, but in greece we have the same amount of turks living and working in greece, enjoying the same rights as the locals.The greeks of constantinople lost their houses, jobs everything and were never compensated for their losses.
Greece literally builded its first mosque(if you call that a mosque tho) in 2021 😂. Wow. Like they are considered as muslim minority not Turkish. And even though there is a declsrstion from european human rights court to recognize Turkish minority. It has been 16 years and no action from greece. Yeah thanks. Not to mention all the Turks killed in 1821. Like in Morea... you guys the aggressor but somehowbyou turn out to be victim.
@@jackholler3572
I am really sorry that we were occupied by the Ottoman empire from the 1350s until 1831 against our will, and had to pay 3x (sometimes even more) taxes more than the taxes that muslim people in the Ottoman empire had to pay to the Sultan of the Ottoman empire. I am very sorry that every one of the ~300 attempts to regain our independence from the Ottoman empire was drowned in its own blood. I am sorry that the Ottoman empire forcefully systematically took the children of revolutionary greek people away from their parents, brought them to Turkey, and made soldiers out of the,. We were clearly selfish and we have always been the aggressor and play the victim! I assure your majesty that we will not do it again. Please accept our apologies! 😁
@@jorgepeters7474 Yeah last time I checked you guys attacked Turkey. After ww1. Oh sorry that we just msde a popluation exchenage with greece. I dont understand how you became the victim when literally Turks were also expelled from greece but no one is saying forced migration 🤣. However Turks in morea genocided by greeks. Sorry that we did not do the same like you do. Your religious and nationalistic riot against ottoman empire is not an act of heroism. Just a pathetic backward riot with ethnic cleansing motivations. Nothing more. We are now seeing its result. A state who exists with only anti Turkish propaganda
@@tomorrowneverdies567 Non-muslims were paying 2.5% more than the muslims 🤦♂️
In other words, muslims went to wars, and if they survived, they returned home and started working. Those war veterans paid 2.5% “muslim” tax. And the non-muslims who never went to wars, got married, founded/inherited their businesses, and built their heritage, paid 5% “gayrimuslim” tax.
Also, Turkish army made a coup in 1960, to take that “Nato-ally” Prime Minister down. They court-martialed him, and then HANGED him for his crimes, primarily the ‘55 pogrom.
Now can you please tell me what Greece did to the responsibles of the hundreds thousands of muslims massacred in Greece during 1800s?
Or, have Greeks even been condemning the culprits behind the terrorist militant organization EOKA-B, who massacred and persecuted Turkish Cypriots for 10 years, attempted assassinations to Makarios (the Archbishop and President of Cyprus), perpetrated the ‘74 COUP in Republic of Cyprus and caused the division, also assassinated the US ambassador Rodger P. Davies and his secretary in Cyprus in 1974?
Or you commemorate them as heroes?
@@krbn80
" Non-muslims were paying 2.5% more than the muslims " - I do not believe that all non-muslim people everywhere in the Ot.empire payed the same taxes. But I can tell you from what I have read, that at least occasionally, people in Greece (non-muslim) payed huge taxes.
"And the non-muslims who never went to wars, got married, founded/inherited their businesses, and built their heritage, paid 5% “gayrimuslim” tax." - I am sorry, but this does not take into account what I said above, and also many other things, such as the fact that a turkish person could lawfully order a greek or other non-muslim person to carry them on their backs (as they did), and many other injustices towards the non-muslim populations.
What massacres of "hundreds of thousands" did Greece do during the 19th century exactly? Evidence?
"Or, have Greeks even been condemning the culprits behind the terrorist militant organization EOKA-B" - of course I do.
"Or you commemorate them as heroes?" - I do not even know what they did.
The point of my previous comment was to demonstrate to the person above, that greek people at least between the 14th and 19th centuries can hardly be considered as aggressors, as they were under a brutal and tyranical occupying regime of the Ot.empire.
I never claimed that greek people are saints, and that they have never killed other people. For example emperor Basil II poke the eyes of the remaining bulgarian soldiers after they lost a battle in the year 1025, and sent them back to their king in Bulgaria, who killed himself when he saw them. Or, the famous massacre of Tripolitsa (modern day Tripoli, Peloponese, Greece), in September 1821, where muslim (turkish?) and all of its jish population was massacred by the rebelious greek forces (totally ~6k to 12k people), even children and old people and women, some of which were burnt alive in their houses.
However, please notice that such events do not simply happen because the perpetrators are "bad people". The turkish, jish and greek people there knew each other for ~40 years. And they (apparently) were so badly treated all their lives, so horribly, that they wanted to kill these people. Please do not misunderstand me. I would never justify unnecessary violent actions.
Today, turkish and greek people have the best relations. But as you see, this was not the case between the 14th and 19th centuries, under these circumstances, where people had different rights and obligations, and different identities.
TR ❤GR
Turkey is no exception. Look at the Christian communities in all muslim countries. Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan... A history of constant persecution...
Lebanon is almost 50 percent Christian. Maybe more as there is not an accurate account recently Christians have actually been treated with great respect untill the west funded groups like ISIS, Al shabab, Al nusra, al quida, the taliban, HTS..... I could go on. But from the Iotola of Iran, to Alshabab in Africa. Persocution of Christians would not be happening without the geopolitical greed of our leaders.
Also NATO is the worst enemy of orthodoxy and has resulted in millions dead. From Georgia to Serbia, to putting Ukraine against Russia. Additionally, who is bombing churches in the holy land...? Muslims or Israel...? It's isreal
Nope. Syria is 7% Christian and many escaped Turkey due to the persecution of Christians and Armenians in the early twentieth century by the Young Turks. There is a church in every corner when you walk in any major Syrian city.
@@gabriels6795 Lebanon used to be more than 50% Christians but Muslims took over the Government and all the local elections and slowly pushing Christians aside and out of any control of the country.
Turkey's history is easily confused with a criminal record.
@@JonLondrezos someone said nations have history but Turkey a criminal record. I agree.
@@JonLondrezos The. Last. Aya. Sofia. 🙏. No. Shamn. Perdogan. Praying. In. a. Cristian. Place. In. A. Koran. This. Is. Haram. Laz. Crepto. Gangster.
@@alexa3322 Cry about it we had 17 empire no country on earth had it We are the reason Chına made great wall we split rome we destroyed eastern rome Pope begged us to not burn rome we didnt atleast maybe you should pray we didnt do that we could have changed your language like France and UK did to others or asimilate we didnt Western countryies must shut up always when they talk to us their war crimes nothing beside us
Greeks are known as the destroyers of anatolian civilizations. Troy is the great example of this. Turks hate greeks armenians and french. This is true.
What the french and british did to the world is way worse. The europeans were barabarians and the whole world knows 😂
The number of Greeks living in the Asiatic portion of the Ottoman Empire (Asia Minor) in the early part of the 20th century was approximately 1.780.000. The official ottoman statistics of 1910 had the figure at 1.777.146.
According to Katherine Elizabeth Flemming, in 1919-1922 the Greeks in Smyrna numbered 150.000, forming just under half of the population, outnumbering the Turks by a ratio of two to one. Alongside Greeks and Turks, there were sizeable Armenian, Jewish, and Levantine communities in the city.
Constantinople numbered 260.000 citizens of Greek origin. The rest were scattered in urban centres of Cappadocia, Bithynia and the Pontic region.
Note that these people were native in these lands with a heritage of millenniums. Only 1.200.000 civilians made it to mainland Greece. The rest were exterminated in what is registered as the “Greek genocide”.
typical greek lies . you greks terminatd 2 millionmuslims in anATOLIA crete and mainland greece . shame on your genocidal behaviour
The courage of Roum like Niko, Stelyo and Ana Maria is an inspiration.
Rest in peace to thousands of greeks and other ethnicities that got exterminated by turks
Amen🙏
@@atillaozturk7075olm soy adından da mı utanmiyorsun kahpe niye amen diyorsun
Hayalleri İstanbul olanın sonu topraktır.
Hayalleri İstanbul olanın sonu topraktır.
What Happened to Turks in Crete, Mainland Greece? any idea?
The invasion of Greek land in 1453 was nothing short of a tragedy! Ayia Sophia in Istanbul is sacred and should be returned to its rightful owners. Turkey needs to step up and do what is morally right. It’s that simple. 🇬🇷 🇹🇷
@@angelwings3128 You expect Turkey to do what is morally right you? You shall grow old and still expecting...
Турков боятся Америка Европа и вся Азия.
What about the total destruction of anatolian civilizations like troy and hittites. They were massacred because they were not Greeks. I hope one day you will learn about your real ancestors.
@@hakan_ozen But please enlighten me. When and how did the Hitites fell? Give me some of your sources since you are an expert on the subject. I really wanna learn mate.
However they didn't destroy the church.
Subtitles 50 percent wrong. Yall call yourselves a journalist. 😂
Thanks for your comment, we're looking into this
@@artetvdocumentary you have to delete this is fakenews .. reupload the truth with correct Translation this is illegal .. greeks are fine people but you are haters with bad Intention .shame on you
Eşek gibi biliyorlar dostum. Bakacağız falan filan...
Free Cyprus🇬🇷🇨🇾
✝️🙏🏻
Make Cyprus Ottoman again
@@TurquazCannabiz I say let the indigenous people to decide. That is always the best choice.
Her biji Kurdistan.
@@CaptainHarlock-kv4zt hahaha cope harder mountain goat
@@TurquazCannabiz aradan bir tek CUMHURİYET çocuğu çıkmadı
Turkey is a Master in ethnic cleansing ...
Actually it is also fair to say that there is no thriving minority (christian or not) in a muslim majority country
Your greeks are also very good in it. Thousands of Turks had to leave whole Greece after Ottoman empire collapsed. Dont forget your try of ethnical cleaning in Cyprus by EOKA B. terrorists
@@andreasmitropoulos Would you then also agree that Greece conducted ethnic cleansing of ethnic Macedonians in Greece in the first half of XX century?
Macedonians are Greeks end with this story @@AntonioMihajlov you are slavs
@@kikistefanidou3371 I know how painful it is to eradicate a whole culture, language, traditions, and people from the lands they have lived for centuries. I share the pain of the Greek and the whole Rum millet that had to leave their homeland in the early XX century. As I also can empathize with the pain of my fellow Macedonians who were either expelled from their homeland in modern northern Greece or aggressively assimilated.
@@AntonioMihajlov Friend I have nothing with slavs , but when they saying we are Macedonians then they are Hellenes .
Turkish speaking Greeks, what a shame, after the disappearance of millions of Greeks from Asia Minor with a presence in these lands for 5,000 years..shame.
They live in a terrorist state. They have to do it ,so they can survive,work, make art . The teacher propably is forced to participate to the turkish celebration. They have a lot of courage to speak about greek minority and work to keep the herirage alive. They are brave
As a greek person, I couldn't care less.
But have you looked at the demographics of Germany? There are ~400,000 greek people there. No good..
@@georgek7510 5000 years ago, indo-european tribes were chasing rabbits in the steppes. Anatolian Romans were the Anatolian natives who were assimilated by the Roman church after 300CE. So, just like how they were forced to speak Roman language, they can switch to another one. Neither are their ancestral language anyway.
@@krbn80 Way before Rome was important, the ancient Greeks made collonies in most Anatolian coasts. Have you ever visited a turkish museum? These Greeks in Anatolia who later became part of the Byzantine empire are way older than you think
@@TMPOUZI Occupying Lydian and Carian coasts makes them important? :) To me, it sounds more like they first arrived as the unwanted refugees in today’s Europe. The ones that your soldiers mow down at the beaches.
Hellens become important gradually after 500BCE, and that went on until Rome. Most of the earlier developments were coming from the Carians, Lydians, Lycians, Troyans, (and Phoenicians). Such as the Milesian school… The civilization was spreading from Anatolia, not Greece. That’s why the Ionians progressed earlier, Hellenistic architecture started there, and then it spreaded to Greece. Similarly that’s why the Persians, Macedons, Romans, they all focused on Anatolia, not Greece.
I love istanbul❤❤from U. K
Will there be a future episode of Turkish minority living in Greece? What struggles and pains they've had? And I want the same biased translation like on 3:27 here please. The guy says 'we're happy now' and the translation says "there's been lots of tragedies"😂 please also do it on the Turkish minorities episode ...
Love to my Greek brothers and sisters from Serbia.
@@pointgreece4331 🇬🇷💙🇷🇸
Brother countries
@@dzevadbayraktar322 Serbs don't have Turkish genes even Muslims from Bosnia and Raska don't have Turkish genes. Some Turks have Serbian genes since many Serb kids were kidnapped to become Yannichars and they had families in Turkey. Such example is Mehmet Pasha Sokoli and Omer Pasha Latas and many others.
Turkish imperia 😎
@@dzevadbayraktar322 Serbs might have Turk, Armenian and Greek genes because of turks kidnapped Serbs, Armenian and Greek children and slaved young girls.
there are some parts in subtitles that was translated incorrectly or so on purpose. There were so much tragedies on both sides and in 1974 Turkish government didn't invade northern Cyprus but saved thousands of Turkish lives and protected their rights to live on the island rather than having a mindset that we had to conquer all the land there and it must belong to Turks.
even nowadays people dont know about the progrom against the greeks of constantinople in 1955 and its crazy
Nothing is forgotten. Everything is recorded and registered as the “Istanbul pogrom”. One notable article over the criminal operations orchestrated against the Greek people of Constantinople is by Aykan Erdemir, 7th September 2016; "The Turkish Kristallnacht" (Politico Europe).
Erdemir, Aykan (7 September 2016). "The Turkish Kristallnacht". Politico Europe.
Nothing is forgotten, even less forgiven..
Long live Greek East Thrace and Greek Asia Minor 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
These areas are occupied...as simple as that.
We will return.
Average nationalist like you say that turkeys lands belong to the greeks like what the hell are we supposed to do go back to central asia or something?
@@Traurigzwz-cw4vx What the heck are you talking my friend? Am I a liar? Have you ever read some history about Asia Minor? These areas are Greeker than Greece itself hahaha. If you do not like facs, go sleep my friend. We will return, we buried our Fathers and Mothers in Pontos...you have no right to stop us. As simple as that. You can call my Nationalist, what ever you like. At the end, the barbaric disg us ting liars hypo c rats are you. Who the heck are you haha? We are Children Asia Minor, you are from mongolia. Besides, no one talk about war hahaha? We will return, you like or not.
We continue.
@@Traurigzwz-cw4vx You can go whereever you like. Yes Mongolia sounds good haha we will not stop you. What do you excpect to tell you ? Give freedom to the Kurds, Armenians, give freedom to Greeks. We can begin with this...be human and then we can see.
@@Traurigzwz-cw4vx youtube son of mutah, why you delete comments?
@@FearTheNorth damn are you that racist? i can't believe some people like you still exists on earth
Never Forget 🇬🇷🇨🇾🇦🇲
Never forget the genocide of dinosaurs in BC 1.000.000 (all killed by Enver Trexpasha)
We do never forget 6 milion european muslim at 1912 declared nationless people with the aim of complete deletion by christiansfor nobody remember them. later killed and exiled from europe, greece, balkans, their lands, villages to Anatolia and caused all the bad things. the biggeet genocide of history.
Nothing to take seriously, subtitles include things that not said by interviwees, and of course lots of information without any context. typical cheap,mediocre european propaganda product.
i realy would not want to make "what-aboutism" but a good benchmark is that when greece gained independence, and doing that with mass killing the Turks in todays greece, other Rums continiued to live as they were as members of the empire in İstanbul and Anadolu.
when İstanbul and Anadolu was occupied by the allies and greece, many Rums cheered and welcomed them. Not a single rational human being in the world would expect peace and comfort among communities after that.
To summerise, Minorities like rums and armenians etc. in Türkiye failed the honour test when the Turks were weak and likely to lose everything, as communities as whole, did not act as 'Neighbours'. Ultimately Turks survived against all odds and traitors' act did not pay off.
My Brother, can you define who is a Turk? Are you a Mongol? When the Turkish race came into the picture, how many years ago? Do you know how old is the Greek race? When the Mongols came the Greeks were already there? You mentioned about Greek independence. Let me give you this example: I come to your hose I take everything you have, I take your children, I steal you land your farm, I make you my slave. What do you think - Do you want to reclaim what was taken from you? At what cost do you want to gain your independence?
You talk about Istanbul, was Hagia Sophia there prior to the Turks? Do you know what Istanbul mean? Istan - to Bul/Poli - City. At that time there was no other city like Constantinople you needed mot to say the name - you only needed to say "I am going to the City" Brother have you done a DNA test to see how much of Greek blood is in you?
You understand how contradicting everything you wrote is, right?? You literally say Greeks "massacred" Turks in their war of independence. So you admit they were enslaved for centuries but "oh bad slaves, they killed people to get their freedom and their land back, how dare they?" 🤡
This video is really inaccurate and weird with translation errors. Fact: the population exchange of Greeks in Turks against Turks in Greece was formally proposed by the Greek Prime Minister Venizelos: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_exchange_between_Greece_and_Turkey
Also, from treatment of the Greek orphanage in the island to other bits that scream "every Turk is evil", there is a political reason regarding reciprocity between Greece and Turkey. Greek government is doing the same in their country for Turks.
The entire world must be united, under one God a God of forgiveness and love.
Look, I hate to say it because it could be hurtful to people especially if the turkish government finds it distasteful that the bonds between Greeks and turks was usually with turks of the Greek persuasion that turned turk usually by some sort of forceful persuasion... Not with the rare turcik people if there were any to be found.
What is "Turks of the greek persuasion"?
@@tomorrowneverdies567bu Yunanlar Türk halkının İslam'a geçip Turklesen Rumlar olduğunu söylüyor.Bu tarz evlilikler oldu,fakat çocuklar babaları gibi Türk büyüdüler .Benim soyumdada var Ama ben Türküm net..Bunlar anlamak istemiyor .
Ne kadar Türk düsmani varsa bu videonun altinda toplanmis😂
it urur, kervan yurur. Birak havlasinlar.
Herkes tercüme yanlış diyor , yanıltıcı diyor , eleştiriyor Türk düşmanlarını nerede gördün
ben ingiliz im, turklere yapilan dunyaca haksizliklardan bahsettim, 37 yildir Turkiye de yim , sizlerin ne kadar tolere ettiginizi yazdim , izmir de neler yaptiklarini yazdim, beni silmisler, herkes TURK DUSMANI DEGIL DOSTUM.
@@johnmoon4802Ülkemiz adina teşekkürler🙏
Sende yunansın bu arada Kokekin bu sadece Türkiye cumhuriyeti içinde Türksun ırkın Yunan
As a Turk, i would suggest you look for another translator. French-English part is pretty well, actually, but that isn't the case for Turkish-English.
These lands belong both Turks and Greeks since they've lived together for centuries. I hope the Turkish government doesn't try to eradicate this nearly forgotten customs.
The country is already filled with migrants all over the world. And these are the real people who belong to this country rather than those who couldn't even understand Turkish at all, imho. Shame as the economic crisis deepens, the rate of childbirth dwindles. There won't be many Turks left in the end. It's the same with West. They are losing against the sheer numbers. So do we...
Well, no one is going to live forever.
You entered I n n.syria n.iraq stealing Native's homes and killing them. Who should be shame? Stop invasions genocides racistic crimes and stealing all INDIGENOUS races and your neighbors. Enough with U
Roum, or Rum, means Romans. The ancestors of all Greeks living today called themselves Romans for almost two millennia. There was never a people calling themselves "Byzantine". There was a Roman Empire in the East whose people called themselves Romans (Romaioi, Romioi) and their nation Romania (land of the Romans). Remnants of these people exist not only in Turkey but in all of the Middle East.
If they were Romans why didn't the western Roman Empire came to the rescue of Constantinople?
@@akritas365 in 1453 there was to western roman empire....the west fall in 476.
@AKRITAS365 Because the eastern Roman empire was a Greek part and the western part was a Roman one. Roman's always helped the turks against the Greeks . Even today Italy (if we suppose they are the descendants of Roman's) support turkey and Albania against the Greeks. It is all time the same scenario.
@@ΙωάννηςΕλ turks believe they're all alone in this, and everyone's against them... whenas greeks were always the ones left alone in all conflicts, tricked into the lion's cage...
@@MIKRASIATISSA True 👍
It would be interesting to watch about the Turkish community in Greece.
You mean the Muslim community of Greek Thrace?
@@geogeo2299 yes
@@andreinovikau6236 There's a ton of content about them on YT. Just put something like "Pomak" in the bar and hit search.
@andreinovikau6236 the Greek Muslims of Greek Thrace have all the benefits that the rest Greeks and europeans have.
@@geogeo2299 what about Turkish speaking Muslim community?
Thats why European countries must not give money and arms to Turkey..
Lol there is no need. Turkey is able to produce all arms itself nowadays
@@TurquazCannabiz 🤣
Play with yourself maria
@@TurquazCannabiz By starving millions of poor Turks
@@theo9952 better than greece we dont owe more than 410 billion euros like greece
As an ancient Indo-European neighbor of Greeks and Armenians) I wish that Anatolia would go back to its IE roots, and we would once again be neighbors❤Love from Persia/Iran ❤ 🇮🇷❤️🇬🇷 😮❤🇦🇲
@@Light_spot_ 🇬🇷💙🇮🇷💙🇦🇲
@@ΙωάννηςΕλ❤️🇮🇷🇦🇲🇬🇷❤️
Sen kimsin götü boklu iranlı. Ben Türkiyenin İrana sinir kenti olan Vanda yaşıyorum. Burada her türlü özgürlüğü buluyorsunuz İranda yaşayamadığıniz yapamadığınız her şeyi Türkiye de yapıyorsunuz. Kadinlariniz burada fahişelik yapiyor. Türkiye size kapiyi açıyor ama halen daha burayı kötülüyorsun. Pislik köpek. Türkiye laik bir ülke isteyen dinini istediği gibi yaşıyor. isteyen de dinsizliğini istediği yaşıyor. Türkiye de olan özgürlükler sizin ülkenizde olmadığı için Türkiyeyi köpek gibi kıskanıyorsun değil mi doğruyu söyle. Klasik Müslüman kıskançlığı. En ornek Müslüman ben olayım. Diğer ülkeler hep arap ülkeleri gibi zayıf ve baskıcı olsun ya da kendi ülkeniz gibi molla rejimi ile yönetilsin istiyorsunuz değil mi ? Aşağılık pislikler
@@ragadu0847tarihimizi bile çalmaya çalışıyor bu aptallar ne beklersin ki Türkiye’nin bunları sınır dışı etmesi lazım akıllansınlar en büyük Türk düşmanıdır bu İranlılar liderlerinin cesedini bile türkiye buldu türkiye olmasa onu da yapamayacaklardı biz çok vicdanlıyız bunlara karşı gerçekten
true, being descendants of big ancient civilizations, I always feel very close to my Persian colleagues. Even my neighbors are from Iran and they are the best neighbors ever!
A lot of the subtitles are very wrong, some even seem to be written wrongly on purpose, possibly as part of an anti-Turkish rhetoric. Still, greetings from a Greek Orthodox in Turkey
they didnt show richest greeks in turkiye...they live better thab turks trust me i have many friends from greek community
If you compare Turks in Greece,number turkish Greeks is not important only 200 people.
These are not the last Greeks in Turkey. There are no last Greeks in Turkey because most of the inhabitants of Turkey are Greeks who were forcibly converted to Islam so as not to be slaughtered. There are 35-40 million Greeks in Turkey, and 30-35 million Kurds. The rest are Armenians, Assyrians, Persians and Jews. The real Mongolian Turks are not more than 5 million.
Not sure that their knowledge of it is going to change them now, they are so damn brainwashed with hatred.
But surely alot of mixing took place so even someone who looks a bit Mongolian might have Greek dna too?
@@Pyrrhic537 The Greeks even in Greece when the Ottomans were here did not mix with them and because of that they had an awareness of their glorious past which made them look down on the Ottomans, but mainly because of religion. The Greeks of today's Turkey are all crypto-Christians and they only marry crypto-Christians. A DNA test solves many such problems and that is why it is prohibited in Turkey, because the Turkish state wants to present the Turks as a nation.
So many twists and turns in your tale to find a way to insult Turks. Still not creative enough though. How many Turks in Greece live by your logic? After hundreds of years many Greeks have Turkish DNA too. Be a big boy and accept it. Because once you do that lasting peace will follow. I wish more Greeks were able to return to their homeland as well as Turks back to Greece. Maybe possible sometime this century.
john you are really drinking a lot, that's so harmful for your health..
Super topic. Extremely interesting part of the world, very important to Christian and European history
Most Christian and European nations really don’t care. They’re willing to support anyone for the right price. It’s a really important part of GREEK history.
Greeks and Turks have lived together for centuries. The majority of Turkish people do not have any hatred towards Greeks. Some politically instigated groups are trying to create hatred between these two neighbors through their rhetoric and by distorting what is being said, as your channel does. They may not have genetic commonalities, but they have many common cultures and traditions. This situation exists all over the world; some groups feed on polarization and hostility. But that doesn't stop me from reminding you that journalism must be done impartially and with integrity.
Kaybettiklerimiz ve geride kalan avuç kadar insan....
Very sadnesses history of Greece people in turkay
Also try to learn very very sadness history of Turkish people in greece..
And you watced just a small part. All Turkey is Greek. All monuments ,ancients and byzantines, the most beaurifulls neoclassik houses are greeks. There is no end
True, the Greeks suffered greatly from the Turks. Consider that in Constaninople in 1924 there were 500,000 Greeks and today there are 3,000. Read a little about the pogrom that the Turks did to the Greeks of Constantinople in 1955, September 6.
@@sofiatsinari2122 Of course! Everything is Greek
Greeks suffered a lot from ottomans. It was a he'll for Greeks 😢
Iam a half Greek half Georgian in Samsun turkey but my nationality is Turkish if someone asks me where Iam from I just say Turkish my grandparents can speak laz georgian dialect and rumeika but they didn’t even know where the language belonged to😂 they always tought it was a village language only spoken in their village .old Turkish genarations are ignorant they don’t care about their ethnicity or about the monuments around them and their history. I know allot of rums who will get angry when you call them anything else than Turk I know allot of Armenians who pretend to be Kurdish and laz acting like they are Balkan descent , its so weird turkey is one big mixed soup and no one has normal and true information about their past only stupid village stories, old people keep their mouth shut or they tell a made up story,but recently I see something even weirder new genarations bragging about the country where their grandparents migrated from like it’s a flex😂 meanwhile their grandparents where deported from that place for being Muslim but they don’t even know that part we lack of knowledge even when a big ass monument is located in our front yard almost Turks will not give a f about it
My grandmother always told me that her parents would go the the church at Sunday and to the mosk at Friday they would eat wild pork while reading the Koran everyday, that’s how word turkey was in the past and still is and the ironic part is that the biggest erdogan supporters in the country are Pontic Greeks,gypsy Romani’s and Georgians/Circassians
@@Alaryilright my family are circassians from turkey they support erdogan, and the have no idea who the circassians are 😂, I hope turkey will be multi culture again
My best friend is a very patriotic Turk of Laz descent. They are brothers to us. His father had me as a guest when I came to Turkey & later I went to his mother's funeral. That lady loved me like I was one of her children!
Kanka hangi köy samsunda?
Köy demişim sorry, ilçe
Respect Greeks
İlk siz Türklere gösterin sonra biz size gösteririz yorumlara göre Türklere saygınız yok Türklerin size saygı göstermesini beklemeyin saygı karşılıklıdır
Dangalak..saygıyı sizdenmi öğreneceğiz.
@@Hayat-l3vne diyon lan 😂
@@levantenee ne dediğim belli yorumları okursan Yunanlıların Türkler hakkında söylediklerini anlarsın gelmiş birde saygı bekliyor adam bu yorumu yazdığına göre okuma yazman yok Lan
People who demand respect should first learn to give it.
Turkey invaded Cyprus in 1974 not 1964.
Some translations of Greek were off but very nice and informative documentary , the work done overall is amazing . Thank you.
They started their crimes against Cypriots many years ago. Even i 1964 attacked many Cypriots villages with chemical weapons
propaganda
Twenty-five million Greeks live there. Soon you will see it..!!
@Ata.turk2 30 million kurds in your fabricated nation state. remember when you were scared to even leave your houses? ottoman leftovers :)
Where are they live,can you show me?
No🤘 ne mutlu türküm diyene🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
see a doc.
nope, italy was coming...;>
We are Troyan peoples modern Turks (Trak-Trakia) and we came back our motherland! You know it but you are don't want say it...
😂. And archeologists are discovering new things all the time, we are also descended from Şaka people and they've discovered DNA in eastern Anatolia to that effect.
@@tvaddict7441 which archeologists?? Who don't love Turks??
@@JusticeForKhojalyGenocide are you responding to the right person?
@@reefjosey1947 düşün neden Türkler hep anadoluya geri dönmek istediler? Bunu onlara hep büyükleri söyledi
I clicked on this video out of curiosity, but the editorial style disappointed me. The one-sidedness of this video just disgusted me. No one mentions the atrocities committed against the Turks. All the suffering in the history of this land is mutual. When the Greek state invaded the Anatolia in 1919, the Ottoman Greeks supported them. The Turks saw their Greek neighbours wearing Greek uniforms and going to slaughter Turks. When the Greek army failed in Anatolia, the Ottoman Greeks set their own lands on fire and fled to Greece. In addition, millions of Turks living in the Balkans were either slaughtered or forced to flee to Anatolia; as their mosques were destroyed. Turks do not tell these stories again and again, and hold grudges against the Balkan nations. Because the nationalist spirit of the time led to such actions for both sides. Being a whiny does not benefit anyone. The effort to portray Turks as monsters is the work of westerners, especially those who overly sanctify ancient Greece and ancient Rome. The Greeks, sadly, always allow the westerners to make them dream of nostalgia. As a secular Turk, I have no problem with my Greek brothers and sisters. But this kind of documentaries always reminds me: no matter how much you want to be a secular, peaceful and humanist Turkish citizen, in the eyes of westerners you are always a barbaric Turk. Anyway, so be it... I think the biggest weapon of us Turks is that we don't care about unjustified bad things said about us. ''Peace at home, peace in the world''
Who where the Turks in Balkan?
You mean the Albanians, who where oppressed both by th Greeks and the Turkish.
Still to this day neither Greece or Turkey does not recognise the Albanian community that used to live or still lives in their territory.
Why is bro trying to join in on the conversation
Shut up @@aschannel2009
Yes, I am alway struck by how no one mentions the mass slaughter and ethnic cleansing of Turks by the Greek nationalists encouraged by the British, only to be betrayed by the British.
Why don't you mention 5 years before 1919 that when Greek army landed in Izmir where Greeks were the more tha half majority, Turks has already began systematic ethnic cleansing Greeks from1913. You Turks massacred 1.5 million Armenians in 1915 alone, massacred one million Greeks from1913 to 1921. It was Turks who set Izmir on fire. Witnesses even saw Turks pouring oil on Greek civilians who didnt escap and setting them on fire. It was old practice of Turks to destroy Greek villages by fire. In 1913, Turks burned down several Greek villages in Pontus region of Black Sea.
All you greek ppl are awesome, pls stay strong among them..
no
Merak etme bizim aramızda güvendeler zaten kimsenin zarar verme gibi bir düşüncesi dahi olamaz türkleri çok yanlış tanıtıyorsunuz 😊
Greeks and Turks living in peace
Greek-populated Imbros was supposed to be self-governing per the Lausanne Treaty, but of course the Turks didn't honor that, either, resulting in the importation of mainland Turks as well as the creation of an open-air prison in the 1960s. The prisoners that terrorized, raped and murdered Greek islanders while the Turkish government appropriate properties, forcing many to flee to Greece.
@@Paulynyc Yes, it was called "eritme programisi". The Turks are very resourceful in terrorizing civilians.
According to Lausanne Treaty Western Thrace was also accepted as self governing region. As it was not realized bu Greek Authirities Turkey took the same action
@@SerkanC-c8l One more conspiracy theory of yours. You can check it by yourself and if you find the exact article I will be here .
@@SerkanC-c8l How come all of you are lying so shamelessly?
@@CaptainHarlock-kv4zt You don't need to insult. Türkiye is not the only one violating Lausanne. But the way you talk is so rude
Chairetismoús apó ti Smýrni ❤
Nase kala patrioti mou pou zis stin omorfi Elliniki Smyrny tin TOTE, den ksero pos eine tora efxome nase kala kai o theos na sas prostatevei apo kakous anthropous.
Kardesim izmirin antik anadolu dilindeki ilk adi Eismyr dir. Smyrna bunun yunanca bozmasidir. Bizi Binlerce yildir yunan yapamadilar. Yakisiyormu sana hic. Nerde truva ruhu hani, asimile olmayi red eden canakkale ruhun
Interesting documentary. May be you should also do a program about Turkey's many crypto-Christians
Herşey hepimiz için daha güzel olacak .
Olmasin!
Altai mountains never change
@@nezperce2767 prejudice
@@SerdarOktay-ig9zs facts!! try George Horton Asa Jennings and yr Ziya Gökalp "the principles of turkish " mentor to yr paw, nice guy that paw of yrs a criminal teacher to adolph
Πολύ πιθανό. Χαιρετισμούς απο την Ελλάδα TR ❤GR
its sad but its a very complex story. Turks in Greece had to leave after world war 1 , no Turk left in Crete, and there are some Turkish villages left in Greece but they are not allowed to call themselves as Turks, Muslim minority they are called, i dont know now but you could not visits the villages without getting authorisation of Greek State.
For the Palestine-Israeli wars, Koç Holding moved away from the heroin production business at the Divan Hotel. Their arms trade helped a lot with the Ottoman heirs around the world.
Turkey IS ALL GREECE whether turks like it OR NOT
Proof for that claim of yours ?
@@SoWhy-hk8rg - it’s in the history books. Year 1453. Know your history!
@@angelwings3128 what? That year was the year that Turks captured Constantinople what does it have to do with his claim?
Explain how Van or Hakkari is Greece
Greeks originated in helas not anatolia the only advantage the Greeks had over turks is they arrived before turks and they only settled in costal areas in significant numbers.
I'm Turkish. I have a Greek friend Stelyo who lives in Athens. He is an average Greek nationalist. We met online but that didn't stop us from loving each other. We talked a lot about history and culture and one day we both decided to take a DNA test. The result was that I was 44% Western Anatolian, 19% Albanian, 37% Greek, while my friend Stelyo, a Greek nationalist, was only 40% Greek. The rest was all Anatolia and Mesopotamia. I don't know if we are brothers, but we are definitely cousins.
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Another one...
The translation is full of errors. There are many parts untranslated or mistranslated. Please correct. This is a disservice to Greek interviewees in the video and what they actually express regarding shared memory and culture…
Ottoman empire was occupied by French and British in world war 1 , after that it was never the same, Thanks god Thesaloniki born Ataturk founded Modern Turkish Republic.
My family is from Western Türkiye and a DNA test showed that my families heritage is divided mainly into 4 regions: Iran, Anatolia, Greece and Italy. 😊
Your family not all the families sir. We are 75% Greeks abd Myceneans descendants says the DNA un Thousands hundreds ppl here
Very interesting! Greerings
Bu senin atalarının problemi Seyit, tepemizdeki terör örgütünü destekleyen Fransızların bariz propaganda amaçlı çektiği belgeselde Türk olmadığını devşirme olduğunu söylemekten çekinmiyorsun, ilginç...
That's the result of kidnaping those children and slaving young girls in Pasha's Harems.
Another imbecile who took MyHeritage results seriously...
1964 ??? the invasion in Cyprus was in 1974 .
We Lebanese love our neighbor Cyprus so dearly. We hope that it will soon free itself from illegal Turkish occupation. 🇱🇧❤🇨🇾
@@John-r6c1k you ain't no Lebanese..youre a zionist gypsie who lives in Lebanon and you think you're Lebanese...hppe that the zionists F..your gypsie mother and sister's
@@apostolosmisailidis8187 The invasion of Cyprus was a result of the coup and annexation by Greece. If the Greek Junta did not try to annex whole Republic of Cyprus, there would be no Turkish invasion and division. But if there was no Turkish invasion, there would be no Republic of Cyprus today, because it would still be annexed by Greece, and many Cypriots from both communities would be dead or oppressed till today, as they had been since 1963. Stop manipulating history as you see fit, and first accept your own nation’s faults before blaming the others.
@@John-r6c1k And we hope Lebanon is freed soon from the Israeli aggression.
@user-mf4pr8td3b hahaha..what a fool..the only neighbour you have is the zionist state of Israel who is F .your sister....remember that
In greece,the greek gouverment dont recognize the Turks!!they say(greek gouverment)that they are greek who convert to islam!!so ARTE,just be once CORRECT!!!if you(ARTE)are a journalist,look in greece and Turkiye,and tell me how many mosque are open in greece and how many churchs in Turkiye???
Because greece is EU member,that doesnt mean that you dont have to be honest!!
same goes for turkey, we are referred as türk by laws. we carry turkish passports, in our constitution every national is a türk so its kinda stupid that you wrote that...
@@MIKRASIATISSA tell me how many mosque are in athens??ore in all greece???how many churchs are open in Turkiye??please dont be greek nationalist and just be honest!!
@@myway2843 Greece has more than 300 active mosques in Thrace for the religious needs of the officially recognized Muslim minority living there. There are muhtars, mayors and even governors who are Turks. I'm being objective, you aren't. & that actually breaks my heart because you're also my people.
@@MIKRASIATISSA you are HARD LYING!!ltell me a coue of mosques that are NOW ACTIVE???
@@MIKRASIATISSA yeah sure
The United Nations divided Cyprus in 1964 due to violence from Greek Cypriots, particularly those supported by Greece and the EOKA organization. However, despite the establishment of the Green Line (a no-man's zone separating Greek and Turkish communities), attacks continued. As a result, Turkish troops invaded the northern part of the island 10 years later, in 1974. Turks have always been seen as second-class citizens in the eyes of many Greek Cypriots, where the Greeks are considered the masters and the Turks the servants. Because of this, there is no going back, as the Greeks will never fully accept the Turks, despite the fact that they have lived on the island for 500 years. So tragedy at both sides. not only Greeks
A monumental tragedy for the region and (even most of them do not see it) for Turkey themselves. Turks allowed and in many cases gladly joined the organized pogroms of their government against Greeks. They can find some redemption by lifting all the restrictions imposed to the Greek minority even today and to provide incentives for the community to survive and grow again. But I am afraid that is exactly what they do not want to see happening
O sürevden atalarımızın emeklerini neden boşa çıkaralım ? Bizim yunan azınlığa gereksinimimiz yok. Gelmelerini ya da büyümelerini de istemeyiz.
Redemption is for mistakes.
@@shadowsofsunsow3657 and for human beings
The arrivals of turks in anatolia and levant, nearly 1000 years ago due to the "bankrupted" romania, was a humanitarian disaster for the greeks and the civilization. Now the region instead of beeing part of the greko-roman civilization is a country of the most despotic mindset, defined in the language and religion.
The fact that Turkish people started doing all these ancestry DNA tests and the results are showing Greek DNA by 30% up to 70% in some cases, is enough to show what has been going on the region the last thousands of years. Christians who were forced to become Muslims and were gradually Turkified, in order to turn against their own people and push them out of the region.
Greeks have been living in these lands for thousands of years, since Homer, and were all brutally exterminated or fell victims of ethnic cleansing, alongside the Armenians who suffered the worst Genocide.
And Turkey is not able to recognize anything, even though the Armenian Genocide has been accepted around the world.
Congratulations, talking so empty and nonsense is also an achievement.
Lol. Turkish soldiers walked around greece for about 700 years. Guess who is your daddy now.
There is no such thing as ''greek dna'' or ''turkish dna'' if we are soooo ''mixed'' then you are the same
@@Traurigzwz-cw4vx You are right, there is no exclusive ''Greek'' or ''Turkish'' DNA. But let me put it this way, the DNA of most Turkish people is much more similar to that of the ancient Greeks (a connection that modern Greeks have as well) than to that of the ancient Turkic people.
@st-craftbeats8374 Artık kesin sesinizi yeter ya. Güzel bir ülkeniz var, yapacak başka işiniz yok gibi hala Türkler deyip duruyorsunuz. Şu nefretinize bir son verin artık. Gelin Türkiye'yi ziyaret edin, biz sizden nefret etmiyoruz. Ama bizi rahat bırakın artık.
Trop bien...je viens de passer 5 semaines en Turquie et en Chypre...et effectivement le plan ignoble avant et depuis la république c'est de laisser à l'abandon tout ce qui n'est pas clairement turc... n'importe l'origine et quand on parle de l'Antiquité il n'y jamais un rapport avec la population autochtone de jadis... sympa de voir les efforts que quelques uns font à part de l'histoire et la politique actuelle. Très bonne émission !
Nice video!
Be a good person, be a good neighbor, be a good friend. Greeks and Turks have many common cultural traditions, food, music and our look alike are generally the same.
Nationalism is a poison and it will destroy our human feelings.!
With ❤ and respect for all Greek neighbors
Yunanlıların yaptığı yorumları görmedin sanırım Türkiye onlarınmış Türkler soykırımcıymış kendileri asıl Türklere soykırım yaptı komik bizim atalarımız bu topraklar için canını verdi Yunanlılara yedirmem ülkemi
As a Turk, I love Greeks and I'm currently learning Greek! I always dreamt having Greek neighbours. Αγαπάμε τους Ρωμιοί και τους Έλληνες🇬🇷❤🇹🇷
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Komşumuz değil onlar bizim özellikle bu yorumları gördükten sonra hiçbir şeyimiz olamaz onlar bizim
Onlar bizim hakkımızda neler diyorlar siz daha aynı devam edin. Türkün Azerbaycandan başka kardeşi de komşusu da yoktur, bu böyle bilinsin
No they are our enemy!
The Americans in the middle of the politics they practice are capturing our politicians. The biggest example today is Ukraine. I hope we don't make the mistakes of Ukraine. Peace neighbor.🤝
I was hoping you’d talk about all the romeika speakers on Black Sea coast.
@@TheodoreIosifidis-gx4qb my family are rumeika speakers from Samsun most of those people don’t know that rumeika is a Greek dialect they think it’s a Caucasian or made up village language only spoken in their village. also many of them will get angry if you call them Greek old genarations know about their heritage but they simply don’t care and are ignorant those Muslims Pontic Greeks in turkey are the biggest erdogan supporters of the whole country they have weird traditions like shooting with guns in the air for no reason and are very stubborn sarcastic people
@@Alaryil visited last year and loved it and I didn’t leave Matsouka/trabzon it seems everyone knew what I was and knew that we were the same. I assume they love erdogan because he is one of them also it’s safer to be more nationalist that everyone else when your the one who’s different
@TheodoreIosifidis-gx4qb
They are all janissaries fully knowing of their hellenic ancestry and dna yet they are still fanatic Greek haters! which confirms what brainwashing can do to one's mind!!!
@@TheodoreIosifidis-gx4qb You didn't mention about the Greek PONTOS , they Kingdom and their Language, and most beautiful Music. File Ellina.
There is no one speaking that language in that area anymore.
cok begendim viedoyu, umarim devami gelir mükemmeldi👍
tüm savaşların en fazla kaybedeni, kaybeden tarafta olanlar ve tarafsız olanlar olmuştur, bu kaçınılmaz varoluş kanunu kimin tarafından yazıldı ?
I am as a Greek origin from Istanbul (Material Side) and I can say very easily some negative comments (under this Video) are Just hypocrite.
As a Kurd i send my warm greetings for Greeks . We understand you very well and we feel your sorrows
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@@CezeriElKurdi my understanding is that Kurds were also involved in the genocide against Pontos Greeks and Armenians. Do you know if that is true from your grandparents?
@@alexa3322 that's not true because my grandparents were alsın genocided. .if that was Right why turkey at least is not giving lands of victims to their grandchild's?
@@alexa3322 Turks don’t admit to the massacres they committed against the Kurds or Armenins as well.. For the period when at least 1.5 million Armenians were killed, they say, 'We did not t do anything... they migrated and died along the way.' Do you believe that, for example?
@@CezeriElKurdi I am glad it wasn’t . We love our brother Kurds even if we don’t have same religion. We feel your pain. You are proud and ancient native people of the region that suffered and still are a lot.
I spent almost 8 years working in Istanbul from the early 2000s. Although I would regard the Turks (then) as some of the friendliest people on earth, they did try to hide their nationalistic and xenophobic tendencies. Although they do have many skeletons in their closets (the Armenians and Greeks, notably), they are quick to criticise Israel and the USA. A Turk will criticise the UK for the once mighty British Empire and its attendant results, forgetting that the Ottoman Empire also colonised nations and forcibly converted many to Islam, among other things.
There's a difference between understanding that your country might have colonized most of the world, therefore not blaming anyone else for their genocides and discarding the idea that your country had likely genocided on other people, therefore blaming Turkey for its "supposed" genocide
Yes this is true. It's all good until you bring up a ''difficult'' subject. The difference is that in Greece they teach about the massacres against the Turks in Tripolitsa and other places and they tell you it's a horrible event. While in Turkey, children are taught that there were no genocides, and that the Turkish people never did any harm to anyone.
is your greek friends tell you how to kill 2 million turks and muslims? or armnians how do they revolt with the help of russia and killed housands of pople??? xenophobic tendencies behaviour is not in vain . there are traumas lies behind this . think about that.
@@st-craftbeats8374yeah sure is greece genocide turks in anatolia crete and mainland greece? i dont think so you just fabricate A HISTORY
Turks like real Muslims, when the Greeks were strong and owned the economic activities of Constantinople, they did the pogroms. Now that a thousand Greeks live there, they play the card of respecting minorities...
I don't think Turks are "real Muslims". I would add that they never were..... They only play the Islam card.
The Arabs don't like them. They see them with suspicion and mistrust, and they have plenty of reasons.
Just look at Gaza right now. The oil that Israel uses comes from Azerbaijan, a turkic country, and travels through Turkey, another turkic country. Meanwhile Erdogan cries on camera.
At the same time, Turkey occupies Syria, a real Muslim country, and is messing around with Libya, another real Muslim country.
@@eisvo21 Could you kindly provide more details about the accusations you are making?
@@OstasHs It is simple ! The numbers! After Lozan document between Turkey and Greece in Greece from 10.000 Muslims today in Greece we have 120.000 Muslims.In turkey in Istanbul from 500.000 Greeks we have 3000. Why?
@@K.I.O.5555 I think I misinterpreted your statements in the first place. In your original statement when you stated "they play the card of respecting minorities..." by "they", do you mean the Turks?
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These people are so terrorized they are even afraid to speak greek...
in turkiye there are rum schools, and they can speak but if we want we can change their language like frenchs did or russians did or british did... like leave this propaganda we tired of this.
omg, stop believing yourself into that, that's what this documentary aims. this documentary never mentioned the positive developments between greece and turkey since early 2000s. no one is scared to speak what language they have, maybe just the kurds are the ones that are afraid. you can hear and see greek in pera(beyoğlu) and islands of istanbul. also agia stefanos(yeşilköy). if you would like to come here I'd love to give a tour of beautiful old greek neighbourhoods, schools, churches and islands.
@@egeyazgan3948 i have come and got sick of what i saw
@@beickus most probably you've just seen the historical peninsula(worst for me) and got scammed by some people like all the tourists. Why do I care anyways
Bullshit as always. Cut the crap.
As being a Turkish, i love the Greek nation and their culture. Istanbul wouldnt be Istanbul without them.
I want she an documentary about the history of turkey special when the turks came from central asia in anatolia
5:12 ..... a photo just explain what is Turkish civilization for the minorities
There is no turkish civilization.
Turks only expanded their lands by oppressing others. They didnt offer something to humanity. Only wars ans pain and islam
you really should be more informed about ottoman empire's politics on religious minorities, before nationalism came over. what you wrote is very hurtful and rude. it's been a long time and we commemorate it every september.
@egeyazgan3948 another Turkish citizen that complain for all the other, except his bloody past.Stay on the line for your visa..
@@egeyazgan3948dumbass whitewashes a feudal sharia caliphate in 2024.
Most repopulated Macedonia after WW1 and many/most Bulgarians left but that’s all in the past and we all have to just leave things as they are now. My father’s family left Kostur region for Bulgaria and it’s a very beautiful area but they made good in Plovdiv. I’m in USA and after so many years of hatred, Bulgarians and Greeks especially the young are great friends now and it’s better that way. Hopefully it lasts for as many years as the hatred and that was a thousand or more…all people have suffered in the Balkans. My father’s village no longer exists, only the bell tower of the Bulgarian church remains. Took me a lifetime to forgive and forget…
You forget slavovulgare that Macedonia is undisputed Hellenic land .You deny the fact that you were invaders and not indegenous to Macedonia.
You occupied Macedonia by military collaboration with turkey and Russia during the st Stefano treaty when all Macedonia was allocated to Bulgaria.
The name of the city is Kastoria not kostur! Or solun for Thessaloniki!!
Changing the original Macedonian names into slavobulgarian names proves you are Macedonian NOTHING!
@@akritas365Since when are you indigenous to Macedonia? Modern Greeks came from same place as Slavs. Macedonia repopulated by Greeks from Turkey. Greeks are not a homogeneous people either. Are Cypriots the same as you? If Greeks are so civil and united, explain to everyone why you killed more of each other in the civil war after ww2 than the number of Greeks that the Germans killed. Are you so arrogant that people can’t use their own language and names? The Greeks in USA may now call themselves Tom or Thomas and not Antanas or Constantine is now Gus? Dimitrios is Jim? Stavros is Sam? You may be Greek but seem more like a Gypsy…
Bulgarians turned against greeks , massakrdd a lot of them, wanted to conquer Macedonia and Thessaloniki, greek aria and city from ancients times. Even turk passa who signed for Thessaloniki to be greek again , he told to the bulgars, that "...we took the city from greeks, we give it back to greeks "
@@sofiatsinari2122 since when do you believe a Turkish Passa? The fact is during the Ottoman occupation Macedonia was populated by different peoples. An international area of different peoples living in their own cities and Towns. Salonica was mostly Jewish that the Turks welcomed from Spain when they were forced to leave. Where are they now? Macedonia was similar to Switzerland except not an independent country and what was wrong with that. Greece was a tiny country before the Balkan Wars, why? Don’t tell me about 2,000 years ago.,You are not the same people and ancient Greeks were also different tribes constantly fighting. Ever hear of Athenians vs Spartans and their ongoing wars?
@@akritas365
It is you who forget that the greek people inhabiting the greek part of Macedonia today, are the descendants of the settlers (I repeat: settlers, once again, settlers) who were brought by the greek governments from Asia Minor and the region of Pontus of the Black Sea in the years 1912-1923, to resettle the area, because of the defeat of Bulgaria in the second balkan war of 1913, and the exchanges of populations with Turkey and Bulgaria of those years. They are therefore not descendants of the ancient Macedonians.
I repeat for you: the greek people living in greek Macedonia, are settlers from Anatolia, and have no genetic relationship to ancient Macedonians.
So just like slavic Macedonians of North Macedonia, they have absolutely no genetic connection to ancient Macedonians.
You can therefore either call both "Macedonia", or you must stop calling greek Macedonia "Macedonia". I have chosen to call both North Macedonia, and greek Macedonia with that name.
So next time 1. be more knowledgeable about history, and 2. be more polite to people who have done you no harm.
Greetings from Athens, Greece.
I am 100.00% greek in case you wonder.
Do the Turks not actually feel homesick for Mongolia?
No cuz Turks are genetically speaking Armenian, Greek and Persians...
@@homerosmolinero131 hahahaha all yenicer
@@LeonderProfi-q1kwe Turks are everywhere. The whole world is our home and nobody can stop us
@@TurquazCannabiz Hmm...but the Altai region is not in turkish hands. I mean ..if nobody can stop you, you could at least "liberate" your ancestral homeland.
@@CaptainHarlock-kv4zt one day we will kid, don’t worry
English subtitles for the Turkish parts are wrong. Please check :)
There are Greeks living in Turkey who came from Greece to work or study. There should be more than 3,000 Greeks in Turkey.