Similarities Between Greek and Sicilian
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 พ.ค. 2024
- In this video, we compare some of the common words between Sicilian (sicilianu) and Greek (ελληνικά) with Gaia, representing Sicilian, and Athina, as the Greek speaker.
The Greek history in Sicily goes back to the 8th century BCE when the first Greek colonies were founded in eastern Sicily as the Chalcidian Greeks founded Zancle, Naxos, Leontinoi and Katane. The Corinthians founded Syracuse and the Megareans Megara Hyblaea, while the Cretans and Rhodians founded Gela.
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Greek (ελληνικά) is an independent branch of the Indo-European family of languages with a written record of over 3,000 years, easily making it the oldest documented Indo-European language. The Greek alphabet, originating from the Phoenician script, was the basis of numerous other scripts, such as Latin, Cyrillic, Coptic, Gothic, and Armenian. The Greek language has virtually impacted other languages in every corner of the world, being an important component of Western civilization, the Christian religion, and the language of some of the fundamental texts of science, astronomy, and mathematics. The Greek language today holds official status in Greece and Cyprus, and is recognized as a minority language in Albania, Armenia, Hungary, Italy, Romania, and Ukraine.
Sicilian is a Romance language primarily spoken on the Italian island of Sicily. - บันเทิง
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I like that the Sicilian girl's name is Gaia (=Γαία in Greek), which means Earth... And nobody noticed that
@parisalexandrou7478 Nobody noticed that!!!... Well, ok! And how do you know that smart ass??? Are you in our heads???
Το πρωτο πραγμα που μου εκανε εντυπωση
@@aigleroyal3941 I see you are ready for a fight... Chill out Rambo! I noticed that nobody had commented on that (not even the Greek girl in the video) and that's why I said it... If you noticed first, GOOD FOR YOU!
Do you think we're all stupid? 😂
@@parisalexandrou7478
I noticed couple of guys commenting 1-2 days before you with better comment than yours👍
Magna Grecia
Both are Goddesses name . Athena & Gaia
YES THE MOTHER OF CRONOS IS GAIA AND ATHINA THE Daughter OF ZEUS-ZHNAS .FATHER OF ZEUS CRONOS.
Gaia is Titan ,Athena is a God
@@pansr.5144 What is Titan ? How different than a God as Ancient Greek epics ?
@@alexandrosmarinis3704 wow. High time the Greek, Romans own their past. They should give respect to Athena & Gaia and others . All that Judo Christian culture Americans talk is essentially Greeko Roman. Middle Eastern faiths are not tolerant.
@@pansr.5144 TITAN IS FATHER OF GOD ZEUS AND MOTHER TITAN REA OF ZEUS BUT ZEUS IT WAS A GOD.
Mediterranean beauties...
I prefer Nordic ladies Nord babes
You prefer the blond bush 😂@@tlacorp.3813
🇬🇷🇮🇹magna grecia...for ever brothers.
Yes brother we are.
Πραγματικά πολύ εντυπωσιακό ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Ναι.
Για Σας! 😊
Καλημέρα!
Εγώ είμαι μεσσαπικο προσοπω (I'm a people from Salento) ☺️
We say "ceràsa" (cherry, in English) 🙂
P.S. I suggest the music-videoclip "Θούριος" (greek revolutionary anthem; published by Ingen in 2 version, short and full) and the greek-english movie "God Loves Caviar" (Ο Θεός Αγαπάει το Χαβιάρι, 2012).
Very nice!
I suggest to look the music-videoclip "Θούριος" [greek revolutionary anthem, posted by Ingen in TH-cam - 10:26 full version] and the greek movie "God loves caviar" ("Ο Θεός Αγαπάει το Χαβιάρι", 2012) in Dailymotion.
I like them very much. 😊
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The Sicilian girl looks so Greek it is insane. Before the video started I thought I was looking at 2 Greek girls.
una facia una razza
@@manitheman0806 Greek genes
she can be anything ranging from Persian to Arabic to amazigh to Turkish
It would be the opposite.
The Greeks left their seed in those areas.
I wrote that not only has Greek beaty but especially from my region Korinthia
Another word in Sicilian is "bucale" a glass pitcher to dispense water. I believe there is a similar word in Greek that means glass bottle.
The word is " bukali".
indeed. and we use "μποτιλια" (botiglia) for a larger container. Funny how neighbouring languages trade back and forth, huh?
But in this case (and not only) is the Greeks who took the word from the Italians! The correct word for the bottle in Greek is, Fiàli! Fi a li
Bokal in Serbian
@@krkmec43Is that not a glass (like in Russian)? 😅
In Cyprus till this day we use the word “Koroua” which means young girl !
Sicilians have half blood from ancient greeks.
they don't have turkish bIood
Don't bother.
TurcoBulgarians 🇲🇰 And TurkAlbanians 🇦🇱 monopolize turkism and feel proud 😂
@@supermavro6072Albanian troll spotted
@@hvar-pharosisland2268this guy is not Turk he is Albanian stop blaming Turkish for everything
@@hhjjhhjj-xn1kh
In Greece we call albanians as turkalbanians
I am Hungarian, and there were many Greek words that we write in Hungarian only with a different meaning.. for example: kóros, árpa, apó
greece is fake country to created by great powers before 18th century the greece name didn't exist on the map greek language is not more than 200 years old and is a church language and was used just in church greeks stolen the illyrian alphabet but forgote the language😁😁 we lived in greece for 30 years and we know verey well
Hogy vagy my friend
These are absolutely unrelated to the Greek words.
A fellow Hungarian.
Hello The Greek Alphabet is Not From the Phoenician this False Claim
Regards
Petros
Canada
God jab grek teket leres from fenikas teket word from Albania from English from Spanish meket1 languiches basdard German hoto meket grek in ROM don't exist grek grek is like gjipsi
A Greek word that's probably derived from Sicilian "picciridu" is "pitsirikos/πιτσιρίκος" and it also means young boy in modern Greek.
Just heard the song Pitsirika. 🎵
Two beautiful classical cultures with common roots 🥰
cherry = cereja
glue = cola
rope/chord = corda
harp = harpa
ghost = fantasma
rabbit/bunny = coelho
clock/watch = relógio
diamond = diamante
See how similiar the words in Portuguese are.
Greetings from Brazil.
cereza, fantasma, cola, conejo, reloj, frijol, arpa o harpa, diamante, cuerda
The full word of relogio in Greek is orologio meaning time-telling.
All of those words are latin words that in their turn decent from Greek words.To give you an example the cherry was cultivated in Kerasun.When kerasun was conquered that fruit which was unknown to rome was paraded in their triumph.They named it after the city it was produced.Kerasun is in modern day Turkey and due to the inability to pronounce it properly in the eastern language they call it Gerasun.So we got Kerasin which is the Greek,Cerasium which is the same just with a latin endfix and then we got cherry today in english.
Now a major important rule.C.C is the same as K everywhere but when it is in the end of the word.Then it is pronounced S.That medieval Greek.So basically Cerasun and Kerasun are the same.Problem is this rule was lost with words of different cities and countries but it still is true.Thats the reason in enlish their say Cooper(koper) which is a metal named in latin after Cyprus but they dont say Kyprus which is the corect one they say Saiprus.
Actually diamond in Greece is “athamas” (th is pronounced like English “the”) and plural (diamondS) is “athàmantes”.
It means: it can’t be tamed (because is too hard)
Thanks for such a video .I liked their presentation, their smiling faces like roses, lulia.
I am actually from Kashmir/ Ceshmir(Chesmir). Your grand grand Ancestors had migrated during wanderers and gatherers times firstly and later on Greek rule was established. I am working on the origin of our language. It has all the similarities with the Albanian language. Construction of sentences, articles, prepositions and all alphabet letters consonants and vowels which the Albanian language has.
All these words exist in our language with the same old greek. At the same time our language has Germanic words and sentence formats.
This video is really fascinating because it demonstrates the Greek history that is very ancient in Sicily actually going back to the foundation of the first Greek colonies around the mid 8th century BC. The Greeks of Sicily were known as Siceliotes. Over the following centuries many conflicts between the city-states occurred until around 276 BC Pyrrhus of Epirus managed to conquer the whole island except Carthaginian Lilybaeum. After the First Punic War in 241 BC the island was conquered by the Romans.
West Greece is South Epirus and is Albanian land currently under Greek occupation. Greeks are brainwashed orthodox Albanians.
Wat enchen grek psema golo gjipsi
@@Perparim-gp1efShqip eagle???😂
@@Perparim-gp1ef Bandit sheepshagger Shqipitard...
Is psema grek language is fek you ticket word from all word German hoto so sori no grek histori
Good to know about some of the common words between Sicilian and Greek
Southern Italians and Greeks have very similar DNA more similar than Southern Italian and Northern Italian
lot of city in the south were founded by greeks like napoli
Great video. Gaia (Miss Earth) totally looks like a classic greek beauty. Love Sicilian people, very much like us. Btw i am a greek from german diaspora.
The Greek lady definitely knows the word “Kori” in Greek written as Κόρη meaning “daughter” but historically suggesting a young woman. So yes, Greeks still use the root of the word koros.
Some other words that are
Interesting to note are.
“ammuttare” (to drown) from Greek “ἀποπνίγω” (apopnigo),
“stidda” (field) from Greek “στίβα” (stiva), and “pidocchi” (lice) from Greek “πούσι” (pousi).
Are these koine ?
Actually, Greeks still use the word "Kouros" to refer to a good looking young man, and it still survives in the word "kourion" (barber shop for men) and "kourazome" (κουράζομαι = I get tired from hard work, as only young men work) . In fact, scratch every modern Greek word and you will find that it is actually timeless in origin and "semasiological" (semantic) context.
@@SadLilith--- interesting. In Greek, the word “Kori” also means girl but it is more often used to refer to one’s daughter nowadays, instead of θυγατήρ (thygater) which literally means daughter.
The relation between Kurdish and Greek is either a common language ancestry or Greek influence during the Hellenistic times subsequent to Alexander’s conquests.
Semasiological? Would that be "semantic? " 😮
@@troiscarottes Yes, "semantic". The word semantic is Greek from sēmantikos "significant," from sēmainein "to show by sign, signify, point out, indicate by a sign," from sēma "sign, mark, token; omen, etc.
As a greek, I prefer to use the word "semasiological" although it has not been borrowed into english in this form. It is more accurate amongst Greek linguists since the derivative "semasia" refers to the "meaning" of a word, whereas "semantic" (semantikos) denotes importance/significance, so semantic is actually wrong in its literal usage. Be it as it may, I am sorry for the confusion due to my overcorrection. (Thanks to your question I clarified it in parentheses)
However, I am impressed that you related the word to what I meant.
The two words actually have different roots. κοῦρος comes from *κόρϝος and the Indo-European word for "to grow", just like κόρος/κόρεσμος.
κουράζομαι from κουρά, κορμός, κείρω from the Indo-European root for "to cut"/"to sheer".
@@enyalios316 there is no such language as “Indo-European”, for the latter is a theory propounded to explain similarities.
The fact remains that Greek seems to be the only language where these supposed “Indo-European” roots are found in so many derivatives, signifying that Greek may very well be the prime root.
And you are right about kourein meaning to sheer/cut. We still use it in this meaning both to name barber shops ( as κουρείον) and the sheering of sheep ( as κουρά). Κουράδα is also a candidate 😊..
Ergo, as previously mentioned, it is quite possible that “Hellenic” is the mother dubbed as “Indo-European” , the influence of the former expanded from Europe to India.
In Portuguese:
cirasa / κεράσι (kerási) = cereja
fantasimu / φάντασμα (fántasma) = fantasma
codda / κόλλα (kólla) = cola
cunigghiu / κουνέλι (kounéli) = coelho
raloggiu / ρολόι (rolói) = relógio
arpa / άρπα (árpa) = harpa
Most portugesse words are easily indedified from Greeks.i use to make fun by trying to understand portugesse.❤❤
I had a Portuguese friend and she hosted me in her home at Lisboa. We were speaking in English and one day she said: I don't know how to say this word in English. Say it in Portuguese I said just for fun and I was surprised when she said the word and it was a Greek one! This happened many time in the following days. The Mediterannean languages have many common words. The Portuguese, Spanish, French and Italian languages have many Greek words but also the Greek language have many Italian, Spanish/Portuguese and French words. Since we have the same culture too I wish one day we could establish a federation and live together.
Languages are the evidence of our history. They speak for us
Antik dönemde Güney İtalya Büyük Yunanistan olarak adlandırılmıştır.
A person from Modern Anatolia that actually knows History! Wow, Im impressed my friend! 👍🏻
@@SpartanLeonidas1821 Μου λέτε παρακαλώ πώς μεταφράζω τα σχόλια; ευχαριστώ 🙂
@@lenag9099 Ti ennoeis? Den exei kato apo to sxolio epilogi gia metafrasi? Etsi to ekana ego..🤷🏻♂️
@@lenag9099 Pantos, o filos Anatolitis eipe pos oi Ellhnes eixan oloi tin Kato Italia pou tin Onomazan Megali Ellada, Magna Graecia! 😃👍🏻
@@SpartanLeonidas1821 Δεν έχει και δεν ξέρω γιατί 🤔
You can see in youtube:
1) ( The History of the Greeks)
2) (Ancient Greek Cities in Italy - Magna Graecia)
3) (What the Calabrian Greek sounds like)
4) (Griko language)
5) (History of Sicily, ancient period)
6) (History Of Greek Colonies In Sicily)
7) (History of the Byzantine / Eastern Roman Empire)
*** You can see in wikipedia if you whrite (Magna Graecia).
Magna Graecia is a real thing but Wikipedia is not a good source
what ancient greeks are you say gypsy anatolian greek before 18th century greece didn't exist on map england france brought peoples from north africa some brought russia from asia and created the fake greece
Like Greece, the poorest parts of Italy are mainly Greek. It was not until the Romans, Etruscans and more took this inspiration and created a new modern empire and Europe to make Italy what it is today.
@tlacorp.3813 The poorest part of Ancient Italy was the Greek city states? Are you sniffing bath salts or what my guy?
Thank you from the video! I loved it as, according to MyHeritage, I am 88% Greek/southern Italian :)
Where you from bro
@@leonidas1093 Corfu, Greece
Interesting. Both sides of my family are from the same town on the north coast of Sicily and in my DNA other than mostly southern Italy, there's a good amount of Cypriot.
MyHeritage us full of sh... There is no suchthing Greek DN
@@supermavro6072 geneticists have have a different view on that matter, mate!
Being from the province of Reggio Calabria, we share many words with the sicilian dialect. Also here in Calabria as well as in Salento (Puglia) there are minorities of greek speaking communities. They speak a variant of greek, not the modern one.
Do they identify with the greek ethnicity of theyre just linguistic minorities?
@@Victor-je9bm they're a linguistic minority. They identify themselves as italians but with the greek language as part of their heritage.
@@Athena-97 how sure are you about this? Do they use the greek or the Italian flag in their communities?
@@Victor-je9bm In one of the villages they have both, but the greek flag is more to show how much they feel connected to their brothers in Greece. They even have some signs both in italian, modern greek and calabrian greek.
Η γλώσσα δεν είναι το μόνα πράγμα που καθορίζει την εθνικότητα.
Loved this 💕 As for the first Greek word for a young boy (koros), in Cypriot Greek we still use its feminine form -- Kori -- to address girls we're friends with. Only in the vocative form, but yes, ever so frequently!
Well done, all of you. It was fun to play along and find out new nuggets of information :)
In modern Greek kori (the feminine of koros/kouros) is used and it means daughter.
@ArniPara can you help me here?
what does the name Calogero means ?, don’t know if I wrote it correctly
@@julio-iz3sk Calogeros (καλόγερος) in Greek means monk. It is a compound word - calos = good and geros = old man
@@DemetriosKongas thanks, I understood it as "my old man”, but thanks for teaching me.
@@julio-iz3sk Actually, there's an expression in modern Greek, cale mou (this is the vocative of calos + the adverb for my) which means my dear.
In some calabrian villages and in the sicilian city of Messina there are people who speaks old greek
I am Basilicata, and we have a lot of similar words like Siciliano and Calabrese... Definitely more similar to Griko than to Mangiapolent/Franco.
Edit: I meant to write "Greek accent", not "Griko"... (the other words is what we call northern Italian dialect/people... In American it means maybe like, "Corn-fed Frenchies"?... It's ok, I like to eat polenta too, no hate. ❤️)
The Griko language is unique!❤. It has many ancient greek words. Keep it . With love from Greece ❤
E strano pero oggi in Grecia si dice ''spiti'' per dire casa, che proviene dal latino ''Hospitium''. Per dire la porta noi diciamo ''porta'' come in Italiano.
@@Chloe-hu9tf you're right, it is, but I meant to write "Greek", not "Griko" (spelling error, 🥴)... I meant to say; "I can understand a Greek person speaking Italian more easily than I can, let's say, a "Genovese" or "Swiss-Italian"... But yes, you are correct about "Griko"; it is very unique, and only found in 2 or 3 places in southern Italy; I think maybe less than 500 people left who can speak it ... I've lived in America almost my entire life, so my Italian is really bad because everyone around who spoke it is dead by now, so after years, I've got it all confused with Spanish, and now I am a linguistic mess... I can't speak ANYTHING 100% correctly! 🤣
@@VasileiosNikolaidis SÌ! 😆... Usiamo parole diverse per alcune cose correlate, come dici tu, "porta" e , sono la stessa cosa, ma "casa" e , diverso... "melanzane" e , molto vicini allo stesso, ma "zucchine" e ? 🤔🤌
In French or English you don't make any sense. 😅
Fasolia is also beans in Arabic! In standard Arabic we’d add an additional “a” to the word. And can be pronounced as Fasoliaa’ .
Great video!
We borrowed that word from Arabic
@@supermavro6072No Arabic borrowed from Greek
fayots in French, faggioli in italian
@@supermavro6072Nope! It’s of Hellenic Origin! 😃
Btw, you are bulgarian so you are turkic basically…👍🏻
@@supermavro6072 Back to your cave turkalbanian
4:40 Makari = ancient Greek wish for hope.
Noun Makarios means joyful, happy.
Makaroni comes from this word, they ate it and fell happy
Makaria it was in ancient Greece a food from pasta Macaroni and it comes from the word Makarios of course like you said
The Land or Islands of Macaron or Makaron (also Elysian Fields) is the place where the priced and heroic dead go according to ancient Greek mythology and folklore. So, the pastry products are connected to that, what was probably being offered in funerals. The french macaron is also of the same origins.
Makaroni doesn't exists in Italy, it' s maccheroni in italian and maccarruna in sicilian. But we have "macàri" in sicilian and "magari" in italian, which means the same thing of greek
@@emanueletardino8545 Macaroni Maccheroni is the same word
@@emanueletardino8545
Interesting.
I thought Makaroni was the italian version of the Greek Makarios
Sicilian girl Gaia:
Gaia (Γαία) is an ancient Greek goddess' name for Earth
Funny it's still used outside Greece but in Greece is very rear
Gaia can also derive from the Latin "gaudere" meaning "to rejoice", therefore Gaia, happy
@@67claudius
Well , perhaps is a coincidence.
Gaia is the ancient Greek Goddess for earth.
Hence,
Geography comes = Gaia+ grapho= earth+ write
Very rare in Greece? Γεωλογία, γεωγραφία, γαιοκτήμονας, Γη, εξωγήινος, γεωμορφολογία, γεωμετρία etc etc
Γαία (Gaia) is still used in Greek in its diminutive form of Γη (Ge) to refer both to land and the planet.
Modern Greek is a direct, unbroken continuum of Ancient Greek, albeit evolved and often simplified.
@@alexisgateley230
All these are derivatives.
I'm talking about the fenale name Gaia
Lu grecu desi â nuiautri siciliani un gran patrimoniu linguisticu.
Very educational, as always! ❤️🙏🏼
This was wonderful, for those who don’t know ,part of Sicily was inhabited by the Greeks in ancient times until the Romans incorporated the island into the empire ,so Sicilians have a some Greek in them
They also have article in them as well, and north African, and Spanish, and northern European. Whats your point.
Italy is a Greek colony, so it makes sense that they have many similarities
And the people are much nicer, and have a great sense of humor.
Also we are the same peoples because Italians are from Etruscans who was Greek tribes from Troji.
@@Gkogkas 👍
Italy was never a Greek colony, but Greek was Italian colony in roman times and recently by mossolini
@@supermavro6072 Go back to your cave and read some history idiot
Sicily was a Greek colony in ancient times.
Ofcourse there are similarities.
We are the same people literally.
There are a lot of Greek language speaker places in Sicily even today.
well, no. Not the same people and not all of Sicily was Greek. But Greek had influenced the language for sure
@@didonegiuliano3547 Sicily was referred as Magna Grecia.
Big Greece.
Most of the cities were Greek colonies with Greek population.
Most of their ancestors were speaking Greek (or a dialect coming from the ancient Greek) until around 1930-1940 were Mussolini forbidden it.
But there are plenty of people there to this day that are speaking that dialect to this day.
A big number of Greek descendants are living in Sicily today.
NO sicilians are european, not anatoloroman turks like modern greeks
@@didonegiuliano3547 greek have very small influence in sicily also the greek immigrated to Sicily recently
@@supermavro6072 😂🤣😂🤣😂 Modern Turks are getting DNA tests that show then that they are Geeks.
The real Turks are a Mongolian tribe that has nothing to do with Greeks and European people.
Go have a DNA test and see if your grandma was integrated by a Greek man and you are Greek too mate.
Greeks are in this lands for 10.000 years AT LEAST.
Turks are just a sidenote in the books of human history.
In Spanish and Catalan we also say COLA for glue 😊
Κόρος με δύο διαφορετικές σημασιες.1. Εφαγα κατα κόρον (υπερβολικά) εξ ου και ο κορεσμος ΚΑΙ 2. Ειναι παλαιοτερη μοναδα ογκου για την μετρηση της χωρητικοτητας των πλοιων , ιση προς 2,86 τόνους
Καμια σχέση με αυτο που ήθελε να πει η Ελληνίδα το οποίο ήταν η λέξη κούρος για τον νεαρό άντρα και κόρη για την νεαρή γυναίκα.
I adore the way Athina speaks greek!! I have said this in every episode she's been in. It's just so beautiful!
It’s beautiful to see the old nations of the Mediterranean share so much language, history and heritage ❤️
Poor orthodox Turkoslav thinks he's Mediterranean. Delusional nationalist 😂
You can't go a day without thinking of Albanians 😂
@@southepirote7676 your the one on a Greek and Italian video ? If u want to be Greek or Italian do what your dad did and move to the country wait 20 years and get a passport 😂
@@MrPolinikis Who tf wannabe a Greek or Italian? Isn't it Greeks aka TurkoSlavs that are wannabe Italians? 🤣
@@southepirote7676 😂 you so want to be 😂 “oh look at us we are Albanian we are ancient peoples too “ 😂 😭
Bravo kores ❤
Sicilia e Grecia una volta parlavano il Greco antico. Sicilia oggi parla Italiano, una lingua che a noi suona troppo viccina al Greco. Grecia pure parla una lingua che proviene dalla lingua antica. Tutto cambia dice Heraclito, ''Τα παντα ρει'' Resta l'amicicia ed il calore umano.
Scusate per l'ortografia, ho dimenticato come si srive esato in Italiano, pero Io sento l' Italia come una seconda Patria.
Quello che tu dici non è del tutto vero. In Sicilia c'erano delle colonie greche dove si parlava l'antico greco appunto perché erano colonie con coloni di provenienza e di origine greca. Il popolo autoctono siciliano parlava il siculo, una lingua indoeuropea di tipo latino.
E certo che sicilia ed una parte della penisula sono parcialmente collonizate da Greci (non occupate) occupate sono state dai Latini) Il Greco ed Il Latino sono lingue Indoeuropee, pero questo 'di tipo Latino' che cosa e? e una sua invenzione?@@erigreca3297
Si Greci hanno collonizato Sicilia e gran parte dell' Italia, non le hano aggredite oppure conquistate come hanno fato i Romani secoli doppo. I popoli della Grecia e di Gran parte dell Italia erano di origine comune Indoeuropea. Quell 'di tipo Latino'
Cosa e? tua invenzione/@@erigreca3297
Eri e Suo nome? Da noi il nome Eri si usa nelle isole dell' Egeo per dire Ειρηνη= Irene, che significa 'Pace' Questo nome si trova intentico in Omero 3500 anni fa.
Da noi si sente bene, e un nome bellissimo.
@@erigreca3297
Risposta a) I greci hano colonizato, non hanno agreditto neppure conquistato, Cosa che hano fatto secoli doppo I Romani. Risposta b) Greci, Latini, Italiani, Celti ect hano avuto un passato commune come si vede dalla lingua. Pero quell’ ‘tipo Latino’ che cos’e? E una sua invenzione? @@erigreca3297
You two girls have carried out a spotless online conversation that two thousand years ago would be in greek-sicilian dialects! I am proud of you two! Also, I would like to praise the channel host and admin. If he will be interested in a video showing similarities between Latin and English or German, I would like to apply as Latin expert. Thank you to all!
no surprise as both Greece and Sicily were part of the Byzantine .meaning at one point they spoke a common language as we have English
Ηταν αποικία πολυ πριν το Βυζαντιο
The Sicilian's girl name "Gaia", the Greek word for "Earth" but pronounced slightly different, like the American "Yeah". But Gaia in Cosmogony symbolizes the material side of the Cosmos, unlike the Earth. Gaia, Eros and Chaos pre-existed the creation. Came out of the Cosmical Egg which in turn came out of nothing or Nyx (Night). The Chaos symbolizes the space of the Cosmos and the Eros (love), the moving force which unites, mutates and ultimately, transforms the "Pan" (The "everything", the SymPan/The Cosmos/The Universe we see). The Greek's girl name, Athina... Well, both girls couldn't have more Greek names. Well done! I love pre-Christian names. Two of my Greek ex-girls were named "Artemis" and "Daphne".
So interesting, thank you all!
most Roman words are Greek, due to the interface of these nations-- therefore there is great overlap between Greek and any Italian dialect, no surprises there.
not most for sure
Both girls look Greek!
Una faccia, una razza 😂
Albanian
Ancient Illyrian people were related to us, the current Albanian people, especially the Muslim groups, have been imported into Illyrian territories by the Ottoman sultans to break down the unity of christian populations, who were the Illyrian roman catholics and the byzantine orthodox Greeks . Under communism, some communities merged, but most retain their ethnic groups. The Muslims originated somewhere in central Asia, near the Alban river, and were imported as settlers by the current sultan ruling at that time. Illyrian people still look very northern European, Greeks living in Albania descending from the Byzantines look very Greek, and then there are the mixed people who have a little Illyrian, a little Greek, a lot of Asian excetera....
Nobody gives a flying fuark about Albania ,Albanians are the most insecure people in the world with deep inferiority complex
@@athinam.4593do you Albanians even have a life ? You all post the same chit
Guys just a quick question for any linguists. Are these words from Doric or mostly from koine Greek ?
Koros, is of course still used in modern times in Greek, in Greece as koritsi=young girl, and in Cyprus, kore=young girl (vocative), or korua=young girl (nominative)
Thank you for this
Amazing video. The history connecting the two is very rich and nice to see it demonstrated. Thank you all!
Sicilian (Ragusa): Racina = Uva = Grapes. Greek: Retsina = Vino = Wine. Saludos desde la Repu'blica Argentina
@@GorgeousGeorge97 ok
@@GorgeousGeorge97 ok
We use Κορη = Kori in Greek to this day which is the female form of Koros = Kouros, in the ancient. And in parts of Greece, like Crete we use Kopelli for young boys which has the same meaning. Lassa= Laskere.
Just a note on the 1st topic "koros"(κόρος)- "kouros"(κούρος) is the male form of ancient AND modern Greek for female "kori"(κόρη), which actually is "girl" in English. Just to make things more interesting in complication, in modern Greek it's common to refer girls in neutral form "koritsi"(κορίτσι). Noteworthy in modern Greek the word for boy is only in neutral form: "agori"(αγόρι). Please feel free to comment on that. Thank you.
Girls they are same...because they had same descent! Greek descent!!
Many kisses Dimitrios from Greece!! 🇬🇷
greater greece. some remote villages still speak a greek dialect that other sicilians dont understand
Greater Greek ultranationalist circus 😂
that only applies for Calabria, not Sicily
what dialect ?
@@southepirote7676We are coming for Northern Epirus again! Buy Pampers turkalbanian…😃
@@supermavro6072You speak bulgarian which is originally t0RKic! 🤣
Such an interesting video
I really enjoyed this. I was particularly struck by the relation between "carusu" and "κόρος".
0:54 While it's true we no longer say "κόρος" we do still use its Ionic version "κούρος" to refer to the pre-classical era statues and we also use frequently its female counterpart "κόρη" (daughter) and its diminutive form "κορίτσι" (girl).
Very nice 😊
Many Greek words brought to Sicily and are still also used in Griko dialect in Sicily .
I have always found griko so fascinating !
Great video.
Very,very interesting.
How many similarities have languages witch at the first look have no relation.
Nice work keep it up.
Amo il bel paese.....αγαπώ και την Ελλάδα μου....
In Sardinian language (and its own dialects):
Carusu/koros /young boy : pitzinnu, piseddu, piciocu (so we use different words, Sardinian ones came from latin pisinnus and pisellus, piciocu cognates with sicilian picciottu, or italian piccino, picciolo, through the root *pic, also see Spanish pequeño)
Cirasa/kerasi/cherry: kerasia/ceraxia (conservative dialects preserved velar k, the innovative ones lose it)
Agnuni/gonia/corner: àngulu, cantu (so no relationships with greek)
Macari/makari/maybe, perhaps: mancari, mancai
Fantasimu/fantasma/phantom: pantama (f>p)
Codda/colla/glue: colla (codda in a *naughty* word in Sardinian 😅, but in southern Sardinian we use also podda for glue, that comes from pollen but means gluten, as in English glue < gluten)
Cunigghiu/kouneli/rabbit : cunillu (but prob. through Iberian languages)
Raloggiu/roloi/clock: (ar)rellogiu (as above, prob. Iberian)
Fasola/fasolia/bean: fasolu
*BONUS* , Sardinian words derived from or cognated with Greek
Theracu: slave or servant
🇬🇷 θεραπεύω, 🇬🇧 therapist
And
Therachia: slavery, subjection
🇬🇷 θεραπεία
tzimia : cause (of something bad)
🇬🇷 ζημία : damage, loss
Cama: heat
🇬🇷 καῦμα
Prob. though latin cauma
(Ego) casco: I yawn
anc. 🇬🇷 χάσκω
prob. from latin
🇷🇴 a căsca
Colostri : holly
anc. 🇬🇷 κήλαστρος
see also basque gorosti, Sicilian alastra, probably it's a paleo mediterranean word.
Piticu : small (debated etymology)
🇬🇷 πίθηκος : monkey
basque pitika : kid goat
🇷🇴 pitic : dwarf
Cavuru/a: crab
🇬🇷 καβούρας
Kondake: a Sardinian medieval document
biz. 🇬🇷 κοντάκιον : stick
(where the parchment scroll was wound)
Ghiani: black animal coat
🇬🇷 κυανός : dark blue
Cucumeu: owl
anc. 🇬🇷 κικυμίς
prob. through latin cicuma
and
Cucubaju: owl
🇬🇷 κουκουβάγια
Paristoria: anecdote, legend, lore
🇬🇷 πɑρɑ ιστορία
Tzipa: peel, film
🇬🇷 τσίπα
Apeomai : to wish a mishap to someone
🇬🇷 απεύχομαι : to wish to not happen
Lepa: heavy knife
🇬🇷 λεπίς: blade
There are some other words in Sardinian dictionary referring to a Greek etymology, but since those are transliterated (prob. badly), I can't find them in Greek dictionaries.
If some greek person will read this, could you tell me if these are true?
Caracanzu: 'glebionis coronaria' , it's supposed to be related to kalakanzi (??
Therica: a rolled cake, therikos(?)
Fantasma or phantasma derives from the Greek phenomai meaning to appear. Phenomenon also derives from that verb.
Orologgio derives form the Greek orologion (ωρολόγιον) meaning time or hour telling.
interesting...the word "apeukhomai" that you wrote ,regarding you refer to the greek "απεύχομαι" ... it's a verb in first person singular form and would mean "to wish something to not happen (usually something bad to not happen)" ... pretty much the opposite
Spanish = English
Cereza = cherry
Angulo/Esquina = angle/corner
Fantasma = phantom
Cola/Pegamento/Cola = glue
Conejo = rabbit
Reloj = clock
@@andreaskyriakopoulos2976 thanks, it could be a semantic change, not so odd if compared to the other words above (κυάνεος > ghiani , the black or dark coat of an animal), any guesses about the other ones?
In Sardinian caracanzu is the popular name for the "glebionis coronaria" , a wild yellow chrysanthemum with a strong smell, Sardinian dictionary says this comes from (ancient?) greek "kalakanzi", have you ever heard something similar? Does it turn on a light bulb in your head?
Macari derives form the Greek adjective macarios (μακάριος) meaning blissful.
Actually the word Κòros in the form of Κούρος (Kùros) is used to define statues of young vigorous adolescens and has exactly the meaning of Sicilian Carusu. But its still used the female type of Kòros the Κόρη pronounced kòree in modern greek meaning young girl sometimes with the meaning of daughter
My goodness the Mediterranean must really have the elixir of beauty in its waters.
Many of the Sicilian words look like Byzantine Greek and not Ancient Greek. It’s not weird as Sicily was part of the Byzantine world first some centuries.
Ζούσαν Έλληνες στην νότιο Ιταλία και Σικελία ήταν ελληνικές αποικίες. Ο φιλόσοφος Αρχιμήδης ήταν από τις Συρακούσες.
@@dimitriosmentis4194 Οι αρχαίοι Έλληνες ζούσαν εκεί δυο χιλιετίες πριν. Οι Ρωμαίοι/Έλληνες του Βυζαντίου ζούσαν 1000 χρόνια πριν εκεί. Μάντεψε ποιος από τους δυο άφησε μεγαλύτερη γλωσσική επιρροή;
@@byzantinetalesβάλε χιλιάδες χιλιάδων έτη παλαιότερα..
Την ίδια γλώσσα μιλάμε με τους Γκρεκάνους, Έλληνες είναι !!!!
Δεν είναι αλήθεια. Έζησα μαζί τους για μήνες και στην Απουλία και στην Καλαβρία. Φυσικά αισθάνονται συνδεμένοι με τις ρίζες τους, αλλά είναι Ιταλοί που θέλουν να ζήσουν στην Ιταλία με ισονομία και ισοτιμία. Το ίδιο όπως και οι Έλληνες Εβραίοι Σεφαράντι. Αισθάνονται ότι οι ρίζες τους είναι στην Ισπανία, αλλά είναι Έλληνες. Το ίδιο κι ένας μετανάστης από οικογένεια που βρίσκεται 500 χρόνια στην Αμερική.
In french there are many words like that (fantôme=ghost; colle=glue; cerise=cherry…).
Gaia is a Greek word. It means Earth.
They are both nice.
Great video! Athina is so cute!
The word for clock is actually ωρολόγιον (pronounced as oroloyion) and its simplified modern form is ρολόι . The etymology of word ωρολόγιον is from the word ώρα (that has given the english word hour) and the suffix -λόγιον that denotes a machinery/apparatus to depict the first part of the word
Examples
ανεμολόγιον , ανεμος -> wind , the apparatus to show the winds
ημερολόγιον , ημέρα is day , so ημερολόγιον shows the days, it is the calendar.
The cecilia island is more close to Cyprus island! In both islands we use many ancient Greek words!
Many similarities between Sicilianu and Greek language. Also I would say that Sicilianu is more similar to Espanol than to Italiano. Grazie pi lu video, Salutamu!
Sicilian definitely has borrowed words from other languages like Greek, Arabic, Spanish, and French.
not many similarity, stop exaggerating
@@supermavro6072You are Bulgarian so technically t0RKic! 😂
Blame the lombards and the goths for that :P
@@supermavro6072🦧🦧🦧
carusu is probably not related to koros, but rather from the Latin adjective carus.
Oh that's interesting. What does it mean?
@@Goldenskies__ carus means 'dear'
This is correct.
@@Philoglossos thank you
@@Philoglossos and from that latin word is the english word "caress" maybe? Edit : yes the english caress is from there, I checked it online.
same blood south italy with hellas.
NO
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Founded by Greek colonists of Magna Graecia in the 8th century BC, Messina was originally called Zancle (Greek: Ζάγκλη), from the Greek ζάγκλον meaning "scythe" because of the shape of its natural harbour (though a legend attributes the name to King Zanclus). A comune of its Metropolitan City, located at the southern entrance of the Strait of Messina, is to this day called 'Scaletta Zanclea'. Solinus wrote that the city of Metauros was established by people from Zancle.[9]
In the early 5th century BC Anaxilas of Rhegium renamed it Messene (Μεσσήνη) in honour of the Greek city Messene (See also List of traditional Greek place names). Later, Micythus was the ruler of Rhegium and Zancle, and he also founded the city of Pyxus.[10] The city was sacked in 397 BC by the Carthaginians and then reconquered by Dionysius I of Syracuse.
a tract of around 30 kilometres of beaches of Messina
the Feluca, a typical boat used by the fishermen of Messina to hunt swordfish
In 288 BC the Mamertines seized the city by treachery, killing all the men and taking the women as their wives. The city became a base from which they ravaged the countryside, leading to a conflict with the expanding regional empire of Syracuse. Hiero II, tyrant of Syracuse, defeated the Mamertines near Mylae on the Longanus River and besieged Messina. Carthage assisted the Mamertines because of a long-standing conflict with Syracuse over dominance in Sicily. When Hiero attacked a second time in 264 BC, the Mamertines petitioned the Roman Republic for an alliance, hoping for more reliable protection. Although initially reluctant to assist lest it encourage other mercenary groups to mutiny, Rome was unwilling to see Carthaginian power spread further over Sicily and encroach on Italy. Rome, therefore, entered into an alliance with the Mamertines. In 264 BC, Roman troops were deployed to Sicily, the first time a Roman army acted outside the Italian Peninsula. At the end of the First Punic War it was a free city allied with Rome. In Roman times Messina, then known as Messana, had an important pharos (lighthouse). Messana was the base of Sextus Pompeius, during his war against Octavian.[citation needed]
After the fall of the Western Roman Empire the city was successively ruled by Goths from 476, then by the Byzantine Empire in 535, by the Arabs in 842, and in 1061 by the Norman brothers Robert Guiscard and Roger Guiscard (later count Roger I of Sicily). In 1189 the English King Richard I ("The Lionheart") stopped at Messina en route to the Holy Land for the Third Crusade and briefly occupied the city after a dispute over the dowry of his sister, who had been married to William the Good, King of Sicily. In 1345 Orlando d'Aragona, the illegitimate son of Frederick II of Sicily was the strategos of Messina.[citation needed]
In 1347 Messina was one of the first points of entry for the black death into Western Europe. Genoese galleys travelling from the infected city of Kaffa carried plague into the Messina ports. Kaffa had been infected via Asian trade routes and the siege of Kaffa from infected Mongol armies led by Janibeg; it was a departure point for many Italian merchants who fled the city to Sicily. Contemporary accounts from Messina tell of the arrival of "Death Ships" from the East, which floated to shore with all the passengers on board already dead or dying of plague. Plague-infected rats probably also came aboard these ships. The black death ravaged Messina and rapidly spread northward into mainland Italy from Sicily in the following few months.[citation needed]
@@alexandrosmarinis3704don’t bother respond to dumb Albanian kids lol
ωραιο ειναι μαθενεις = its goos i learn. my friend thanks for video you are very good
One is named after a Greek titan the other after a Greek goddess
In the Ionian islands, the end of a loaf of bread would be aggoni (αγγωνή)
Please mske a video comparing Sicilian and Spanish. Im very curious how they compare
pretty cool about Koros/Kuros meaning boy, in the Kurdish dialect I speak boy/son is Kur. Btw Bahador, the description of this video is a bit wrong, you got armenian mixed into it!
The Greek forgot the word “kordoni” which means thin, small string and is clearly linked to “corda”.
Χορδή is the ancient Greek word that generates all those modern words.
I once saw a Sicilian character in a TV show called Cicco Di Cicco.
In Cyprus we use the same 'cc' sound. The largest monastery on the island is spelled Kykkos but pronounced Ciccos
Oh, my God. 80% similarities in romanian language from both these languages. Cireasă, colț, fantsmă, clei, orologiu, fasole, harpă, diamant, antracit, Nu mai lăsa coarda.
Greetings from Romania.
In Italiano si dice 'magari' per dire 'spero che'. In Italiano si dice 'macheroni' per dire pasta da manggiare. Pero non si sa che tutte e due parole provengono dal Greco. Per esempio '' Οι Μακαρες Θεοι'' = 'I Makares Thei. Che significa '' I beati Dei''
Macari in siciliano però significa "Anche/pure" , Gaia si è dimenticata di specificarlo. Esempio: Veni macari iddu= Viene anche lui.
Please make a similarity between the Kalhori Kurdish dialect and the Sorani Kurdish dialect❤️
😂😂😂😂 just for you and 4 more people maximum
Sicilians born in other countries and have a Sicilian background don’t understand their Greek roots and I meet them and tell them Greeks and southern Italians are related and they laugh at my face. Why do I love southern Italy so much that I never been to that part of the world. My parents are Greek and I’m born in Australia and I feel love for a country I haven’t been too. I feel drawn to Calabrian people allot as well.. I vibe with them here in Australia. I been to Greece a few times.
1:52 koros (young boy) is used in modern Greek but in the female version: Kori (young girl - daughter)
All the east Sicily have greek roots they are 100% Greeks from Magna grecia
Salutate Manga Grecia
I am from Friuli region in North-East Italy, I've heard many times use in local language the word "roloi" for clock.
Words with the dd- in SIcilian generally use ll- in Italian, so kolla in Greek is closer to the Italian colla
But the Romans named the locals of Greece (Hellas) “Greeks”
Normally the Greek man (Greco) is called “Ellin” but the Romans named all the Ellines by the name of a group of them called ΓΡΑΊΟΙ (Grèi)
In Norway (and maybe not only) Greece is still called “Hellas”
PRETTY MEDITERANIAN GIRLS ,
(CORES- KΟΡΕΣ) , FROM SICILY AND CRETE.
ΚΑΛΗΝΥΧΤΑ ΑΠΟ ΚΡΗΤΗ.
Our languages are so close!
So grateful to understand each other.
It's amazing that so many Greek words are spread/used all over the world!!!!!
What does it mean?????? And "they" are so eager to put aside, to "forget" it!!!!! Why?????
Love from Thessaloniki!!!!
*Magna Graecia 🇬🇷🤝🏼🇮🇹*