As a physician, I find it hard enough to deal with the differences between male, female, younger and older patients. I can't imagine how vets manage to treat different SPECIES. Unreal!
As a GP veterinary nurse, it's honestly just a way of life. It's a lot to learn and I am continually learning new things about various species, but we don't really think about it. When I'm on the dog side of the building, I put on my canine medicine cap, and on the cat side I put on my feline medicine cap. 😅 I work in predominantly small animal, so it's mostly just the two. Then again, I have also anesthetized an African bullfrog, taken rads on a guinea pig, placed a jugular IV catheter in a calf, and performed CPR on a mini pig. All at the same clinic. When it gets wild is when you start considering diagnostic imaging, anesthesia, surgery, and dentistry all going on under the same roof. Most GPs don't have the luxury of a board certified specialist in house, so you have to be competent in pretty much every aspect of medicine at once. (And most meds are filled in house, so no pharmacist available to help.) My GP is sort of the extreme, but we do orthopedic surgery and some neurosurgical procedures in house, as well as our own CT interpretations. I'm pretty sure we have a nephrectomy coming up as well. Also have to tell you that you have not lived until you've been involved in a C-section on a canine patient. My biggest litter to date has been nine (which honestly isn't even impressive) and it is mass chaos trying to get 9 puppies to breathe at the same time while the only DVM in the building is scrubbed into surgery and trying to stuff 2 feet of uterine horns back into the abdominal incision.
@@superjello3979 wow! Big ups to you! I was a biology major when my (previous) boyfriend's Golden Retriever went into labor and his dad called me to come deliver the pups. I grabbed scissors, dental floss and towels and hyperventated right along with Momma as she birthed healthy pups...my biggest fear was losing one. I did freak out when a few came out in intact sacs! Momma didn't break them, so I did. It was definitely unforgettable, even though about 25 years ago now.
For me, dealing with the human aspect is by far the worst part of being a vet. Watching animals suffer due to the owner's greed, stupidity, and often noncompliance is disheartening. The flat out verbal abuse from clients had gotten exponentially worse over the past 2 years. It's gotten so bad that clinics in my area are sending out letters stating that if they can't speak to staff with respect then they're business isn't welcome. Also, so often a client comes in, says do every diagnostic/ treatment available. Then it comes time to check out and they say "I don't get paid until next week. I only have $25." People don't do this for any other service- why do they think it's ok at a vet? You don't stand in line, have the cashier ring up your groceries, then say I'll have pay you later!!!
Also in vet med- it's been terrible. The first 6 months to a year, people were super nice bc we were "essential". Now we're in hell. I see a lot of people trying to vet hop so they can find someone who won't enforce curbside service. If the first words out of a potential new client's mouth are "ARE YOU LETTING PEOPLE COME INSIDE" I will likely tell you we're not accepting new clients...
As someone who also works in vet med, this strikes home. The verbal abuse has taken a toll, along with burnout. In my area, many veterinary practices have lost doctors and staff due to burnout and stress. Even our emergency veterinary practices cannot run the same way they used to. Things have been tough. I sympathize with you.
I am currently going to school to be a nurse in pediatrics.. I just wanted to say thank you so much to every one of you. All the vets I've met have taken great care of my kitty when I'd bring her in for her shots and or concerns (I'm and very protective pet owner) and no matter how much a visit is you all do such an amazing job and I love my little fur baby. Thank you so much.
No way... all my this time in my environment people saids that in USA (I'm from MX) Veterinarians have a better status, but now I can see that we are exposeded exactly the same way. somebody sayid mi yesterday that day by day, less people want to work as an small animal vet, is that really?
As a human nurse and dog mom, I have to agree. I constantly apologize to our vet and his staff because my boy just hates to go there. He is definitely muzzled, though, and has been professionally trained, but after getting his temp taken, his manners kinds go.
and don't let me start with hematology, in Vet, I have to remember and recognised at least 9 species of different blood cells. There is also difference between breeds.
My husband was a third generation medic. He worked on an ambulance during college. His brother was killed in a car accident. He didn’t cry. He took an elder cat who had tachycardia to the vet. When he came home without the cat he insisted I leave with him. He drove to a parking lot, sat in the car and nearly cried, obviously traumatized.
My dog is a rescue who was shot through the brain as a puppy, (before we even knew he existed,) A veterinary college took him in and nursed him to health over the span of a year, and took him from a coma, to a paralyzed dog, to a fully happy but partially blind puppy! He suffered with seizures for three years once I adopted him, but hasn’t had one single seizure in the last 18 months. Thank you to veterinarians and veterinary specialists for all they do. Nobody can even tell my dog is disabled, and his quality of life is just like any other puppy around. God bless you for all you do! I couldn’t imagine life without my doggy! Miracle workers!!
Veterinarian here! My sister has one year left of med school, and I can totally see us doing something like this in the future. We're both very supportive of each other, and it was fun to see that in your relationship, too!
I love this! I have been a specialty veterinary technician for over 16 years now and the amount of scrutiny and disregard we go under is so hard. we still are not treated as medical professionals by most of the community. Yay for vet med education.
Prech! 15+ yrs LVT. Mainly surgey. Went from er tech, to surgey, head sx tech. Surgey tech supervisor, to surgery/specialty tech supervisor. I moved and now I'm happily just a plan ol er tech lol 😆 😅 (I might be a little out of practice on a few things for on er floor lol)
i get so upset when I hear people talking about how vets are trying to scam people out of money because they don’t want to spend the money on their pets…vets really REALLY need to be paid more…it’s insane that it costs so much to go to vet school but you get paid a fraction of an MD. It truly is a labor of love…i dropped out of pre-vet because I couldn’t handle it, I truly appreciate everything you all do.
I’m a certified veterinary technician and though my focus is emergency and critical care, I have a soft spot for neuro after I had a post op hemilaminectomy beagle patient that I ended up adopting. Went from being unable to control his back legs or bladder to running. Was wagging his little tail when he woke up from anesthesia. Thank you veterinary neurosurgeons! ❤️
Fellow CVT here! I have a cat I adopted with Horner's syndrome and bilateral nystagmus following head trauma (HBC). It definitely makes you appreciate neuro. Much respect to you in ECC work. I work in a weirdly specialized GP and it feels like I somehow stumble onto the majority of the emergent cases that come in and it is intense. Props to anyone who can do that for a living.
I've had dozens of dogs over my long life, and thus have turned to many veterinarians for help along the way. They have without exception been warm, kind, and highly skilled people. (I'm afraid that I can't say the same about all docs for humans.) Perhaps veterinary medicine attracts only those who are motivated primarily by compassion and intellectual curiosity? Point is, people in DVM Cellini's profession have brought tremendous aid and comfort to my little guys and myself, and they've done it for comparatively modest returns. So much respect and appreciation!
Vets certainly aren’t in it for the money. They are so whip-smart to be able to practice what they do, and so compassionate and loving towards animals they’re bit by, clawed at, and urinated on daily. They are criminally underpaid.
As a vet nurse, I assure you I'm in this field for the compassion and intellectual curiosity. I have 2 degrees, am licensed, and have 2 additional certifications (Fear Free and Pet Nutrition Coach), and I made $30k last year. I'd say the associate vets I work with made, at most, double that. We are definitely not in this for the money.
@@liv0003Those websites don't really reflect reality. I google the average salary in Australia, for vets and trust me it's NOT reality. Here in Australia many websites say that the average new grad vet salary is 80k-95k+. This is NOT true. The reality is more like 40k-65k. Now compare that to the 300k+ it costs to go through vet school here (or more if you took several years at uni to get into vet school).A senior GP vet would be lucky to earn up to 100k a year. Considering we are professionals that are trained to do everything from dentistry, surgery, radiology, ultrasonography, histopathology, etc... we are criminally underpaid. Also, when a dog gets a blood test, we often call you, the client with results. This won't or rarely happens in human med. You cannot call to speak to a human doctor. You have to pay for a separate consult to get your blood results back. And apparently WE are the expensive ones.
Being a full time VT myself, I would agree with your brother on the aspects of getting pooped on, peed on, vomited on, scratched to hell, and bit on a regular basis. I have the scars to prove it and so do all of the Vets I work with, as well as the other techs. It’s a rather physically and emotionally taxing job to not get paid for what the value is of helping and saving animal lives. Unfortunately I feel that until we begin to honor animal life, as we do that of humans, the pay out is not going to change. Hopefully it will some day! But one cannot sustain themselves and potentially others on an annual income of less than 30K and have good quality of life in the states, unfortunately. Rant aside, great video! Thanks for the perspective.
Yeah, I definitely agree. This is difficult though. The extra money has to come from somewhere. Where? I kind of think insurance companies, but then that's just another pain in the ass on the vet clinic staff has to deal with
Bro Dr Cellini- you confirm much of what I’ve heard about the veterinary path. Sure wish DVM benefits matched the value of a DVM, because your vocation stands alone in serving the truly vulnerable and voiceless.
I found this both interesting and entertaining. I am a UCDavis graduate from the School of Veterinary Medicine (1994) and one thing that you might mention is that after our 4th year in clinical rotations, we can begin practice immediately and are not required to complete a residency program as are human physicians. I think this debate between the two disciplines will go on in perpetuity. I like to joke with MDs, “how many species do you work on?”
I’m a general practice veterinarian and agree with a lot of points in this video. I advise anyone wanting to become a veterinarian to only consider it if they will have considerable financial help from family members (100k plus). If not, prepare to never pay off your student loans or buy a home/raise children. If you shared the salary differences (including benefits provided by your employer), I bet the differences would be pretty shocking. I also completely empathize for the DVM brother- communicating with pet owners can be very emotionally difficult, especially as a neurologist who deals with dogs in dire situations like paralysis and uncontrollable seizures.
I'm in school to be a CVT. My grandma keeps insisting vets make a ton of money (because she thinks I should be one) I keep putting her in her place...easily half a million in debt for maybe 100k salary. Can you call her and tell her I'm right?? 😂
My dog once got knocked by a car and was paralysed. He was dragging his feet around. The vet gave him something and in about 2 weeks, he was walking again. He had peed on the vet. I've never loved a person more than I loved that vet.
I actually love this brother dynamic, this was so fun! Do more videos together! Did your parents strongly encourage med school for everyone? Or did you all just happen to like this field?
Definitely harder to get into vet school than med school in parts of Canada. We have only a few vet schools and what school you're allowed to go to depends on what province you're a resident of. My province has 1-2 seats a year. Ultimately those odds are what made me fully give up on wanting to be a vet. It was my final straw after acknowledging the issues with other things like the lower income, the "only in it for the money" comments, seeing the neglect, and more. So much respect for my dogs vets!
I graduated medical school 1983. I’ve also rescued 56 dogs in my life. I’m almost always the only person in the rescue group that has any sort of healthcare training so I get all the sick dogs. This means I have spent a lot of time in veterinary offices. Veterinarian that I have seen the most often in the last 35 years is Dr. G. One day, out of the blue, Dr. G said to me, “do you know veterinarians have higher IQs then do medical doctors.“ I was surprised by his statement. If anyone would’ve asked me, I would’ve guessed that the IQ was about the same for MDs and DVMs. I asked him how he had come to that conclusion. He said that they were fewer veterinary school so it’s obviously harder to get to that school. Dr. G had previously told me he had a hard time with the statistics course in his veterinary school. After I heard his statement I wasn’t surprised that he had a hard time with statistics. How hard it is to obtain a position is dependent on how many people apply for that position. What matters is how many people apply relative to the number of positions. Many more people apply to medical school than veterinary school. So just a number of positions in the vet school or med school is not an indication of how hard it is to get in. When I had time I looked it up. Both veterinarians and MDs, on the average have an IQ two standard deviations above the normal mean. That is A score on the Weschler adult intelligence scale (WAIS) of about 132. I don’t really understand why people have to decide which profession is morally superior. I would say both MDs and DVMs are probably morally superior to many professions but I don’t see how you could decide we are whether DVM or an MD is morally superior to each other.
My Radiologist, discovered that there is unwanted, uninvited breast cancer in me. It's so small that the Surgeon was surprised he found it. And, it saved my life surely. Thank God for Radiologist. ♡♡♡♡♡♡♡
Mixed animal veterinarian here. Love the video! Glad that TH-cam brought this in my recommended feed. I work on primarily cats and dogs, along with cattle, sheep, goats, and horses. I will say as an add-on that doesn't get much attention, vets who work with farm/large animals tend to have the most demanding physical strains. I work in a general practice with 3 other vets at least 20-30 years older than me. All of them worked with large animals throughout their careers and all of them either have bad shoulders, bad knees, or a bad back. Now I am the only one taking care of all of our big patients. As much as I do enjoy going out on farm calls, it's a reality I will have to look forward to in my future. Large animal vets in general are much more difficult to come by and are in such high demand.
As a vet student whow I'll likely go into small animal GP, I have so much respect for your largies and mixed animal vets! It's not easy for sure, so dangerous and so challenging. I love largies, but I don't think I could ever do the stuff you guys do. Keep up the great work!
You both seem so kind and are obviously so incredibly bright! Wonderful brother bond! That's some successful genetic material! My dad went to Penn Vet and practiced for over 30 years.
Great respect for your brother! Two of my Dachshunds had neck surgeries by a neurosurgeon. It was offered by a local general vet, but they weren’t specialized in this, worth the extra travel time, and money. Animals need specials like humans.
@@silmuffin86 that vet office was putting their hands into lots of areas where they shouldn’t have been placing them. They ran a 24 hour emergency vet hospital as well, I waited an extra hour for my dog to taken in at other emergency clinic because I don’t trust them, even though he was a true emergency was taken back right as soon as we walk in.
Mike is such a nice younger brother, Jim is such a funny and protective older brother. Mike takes all Jim’s troll like a champ, Jim makes fun of Mike so naturally. This troll will last for life happily.
I had no idea your brother was a veterinarian! I've been waiting for a video like this, where a human physician and veterinarian compare their jobs, etc. And funny thing is, I'm on my neuro rotation right now! Thanks for doing this video!
I have DVM degree and whoa I agree on what your brother said. Vet practitioner deserve more for what they do. Long hours of working with little pay, not to mention the emotional burden. Due to this I don't work as practitioner and instead work in veterinary pharmaceutical. I just can't deal with all of that... So kudos to all veterinarian! Ofcourse the upside of it, is really rewarding. Seeing a patient that almost dying to be healthy again is just amazing, but being frustated at untreatable case is also devastating... I know we should just focus on what we can do, but for me the emotional burden is just too much :")
So true! I have a few questions though. Do you have to have a DVM degree to get into Veterinary Pharmaceutical? What's that field like and also do you think the pay is good?
@@breanamarksman5759 it depends on the jobdesk. Because I'm resposible for research and registration of veterinary drugs therefore it need DVM degree. Some technical service/sales position in veterinary pharmaceuticals also need DVM degree. For my position as regulatory affairs the payment is quite decent, but the real upside of it is ofcourse fixed working hours unlike vet practitioner
I never realized until now that one physician has patients who can not speak,as in "tell you where it hurts" etc..Also, how PROUD the parents must be raising and witnessing their children become Doctors. That had to be financially a huge endeavor! Thank you Doctors for caring for humans and animals-without you the human race would be extinguished
As a veterinarian from México, I could said that is exactly the same sad story. Even the physician brother seems to be much cheerful, but obviusly it could be not directly associated. My parents are veterinarians as well and my grand dad is a phisicyan and sometimes I claim "why did nobody warn me about?"
As a veterinary internist I agree with your take on myth of “vet school is harder to get into than med school” - totally agree in reality med school is likely more competitive. Thanks for touching on that
When I was a 4th year at Oregon State one of our medicine residents was on food stamps to support their family. Not shaming food stamps, just an example of how challenging residency programs are financially. The number of hours our large animal residents were on call was just unbelievable.
@@edz6388 That’s all I do not know much about. I do know that we had interns and residents with work visas. I would assume, you would find the school you are interested at doing a residency at And have to apply.
@@DogDocLou thank you very much, that's very helpful to me. I know that residents have a payment about 30k/y, but a do t know if that's true for every single speciality.
This right here is a video I would have loved as a pre-vet in high school and college! i was very torn between the two! I've been watching your channel forever and now i've been watching DVM Cellini since he started! love you guys, very inspirational for us!
@@delightdelirium1 I don't see how an accurate conclusion could be reached without some epidemiologist input if you wanted to compare how well each system saves lives or results in healthy outcomes.
I absolutely loved seeing you and your brother interact like this!!!! I had already been following DVM Cellini anyway but it is nice to see you together sometimes!!!!
Vet tech here, the hardest cases for me are the abuse/neglect cases and the financial limitation ones. It wrecks me every time we have a patient that we COULD save, but cannot due to financial concerns. There's something that feels incredibly wrong to me with regards to euthanising (for example) a foreign body dog whose owners can't afford surgery and medication , etc etc.
@@crowsong8097 This would have been us IF my cat was not insured. She dislocated her ankle in way that absolutely needed surgery to fuse it. Because she's insured it was promptly done and now she is totally fine. She can run, sprint, jump, grap and do everything. If you watch her long enough you realise one paw doesn't fold all the way inwards but apart from that you'd never know. But it would never have healed naturally, I saw the x-ray and the bones were miles apart.
I'm a CVT and currently in nursing school. People always ask why I made the switch. Its so hard to explain how heartbreaking the veterinary field can be. You stay in it for so long because you love to help the patients, but the industry as a whole is controlled by fortune 500 companies that make it impossible to be sustainable. I wish the clients understood that we in no way get any type of kickbacks and in fact are paid so poorly that we often have second jobs.
This was interesting to me as I was a vet tech for 7 years and became a medical assistant in 2014. I found dealing with insurance in human medicine complex. I also enjoyed the perks from drug reps in veterinary medicine better as they had less restrictions. I wore more hats as a vet tech that I would not be allowed to do in human medicine without schooling and certification for these different roles.
I am a RN, critical care. Dealing with sick people is bad…pooped on, peed on, puked on, bitten, etc. But I could never work with sick animals. I would be crying all day. My hat is off to the vet techs and vets. ❤️ 🐾🐾
I'm a veterinarian whose undergrad degree is in political science and nearly had a minor in film study, so... some of us are crazy and go the complete opposite way like that!
Just an added note, 2 vet schools (Missouri and Mississippi State) have a program where classes are sped up (8 weeks long and go through June) so that the 3rd and 4th years are doing clinical rotations. It's so much better than 3 and 1 at all the other schools. Also internships/residencies are not a requirement, you can graduate and go into practice making a wide range of money depending on where you are, but cost of living pretty much evens everything out.
As someone who’s trying to decide between med school (with an interest for intervention radiology) and vet school, I really enjoyed that video, it felt both could be my future self hahah!
You should follow your passion. That’s what I told my son, who is graduating this May from his Veterinarian program at St. George University. He took the GRE and majored in biology and biochemistry and had a good GPA, but not perfect, thus an island school. He has GI bill, loans, a wife and two kids as well as a hella lot motivation. He will intern in Mississippi soon. Good show docs
Tell your son "hello" from a SGUDVM grad. What a great college on a great island! BTW high or low GPA does not mean that someone has to go to an island school. There are buckets full of applicants to each of the Vet Colleges in the USA every year. After years of applying to those colleges, I tried two island colleges. Got accepted into both. I believe that I choose to attend the better of the two.
I have two special needs dogs, and having learned how vets are often treated and compensated makes me so sad. Pet owners need to be kinder, more patient, and not expect services beyond their budgetary constraints. Many vets can't offer payment plans because they get burned so often, and it severely cuts into their already shallow bottom line. My dogs are both seen at least once a month and I've made a concerted effort to bring in the occasional gift basket (not big, just something) for the entire staff - their jobs are difficult, and if I can brighten their day just a tiny bit, I feel so much better about taking up their valuable time.
I clicked on this so fast! I’m a veterinary nurse and I work for the neurologist… I love what I do every day, also much harder than human medicine 😉 (PS veterinary staff are waaaayyy underpaid)
You brother could always try to work out a collaboration with the youtube channel "vet ranch" were they help rescue animals get the medical help that they need.
Once when I was a medical technician (human), I worked for a group of pulmonologists. I was a clic X-ray tech, but I wasn't certified. I only took lung Xrays. Well during that time I had taken my 15 pound terrier mix to the emergency vet because he ate a pin cushion that was full of pins and needles. Somehow he didn't swallow any pin nor needles. I was given his Xrays and told to follow up with my regular vet. (The dog lived to be 17 years old and passed away 2021 just before Christmas. He had a grand mal sezure then had a vestibular problem, he didn't recover.) But anyway, I had a funny idea at the time to take his Xray to work. He was a young dog back then. So I hung his film under the light and left it there and didn't say anything. It was not marked like patient films, but it was next to the more serious ones. I took about an hour before I saw one of the specialis staring at it trying to figure out that "something just isn't right" feeling you get. The clinic didn't treat pediatric patients, besides something wasn't even human. I let the puzzled doctors know what I was upto and everyone got a laugh once they realized that the mystery patient was my dog.
And yeah that is amazing. Doing a veterinary neurology residency that teaches you BOTH medicine and surgery. I think in the old days that human neurologists also did neurosurgery. But NOT ANYMORE.
Yes I loved this and let's see more like it.Since I have such respect for Doctors of both people and dogs this was fascinating. I will look forward to catching more of your videos,Happy New Doctor's!
The DVM who headed my technician program originally majored in Russian Language, taught English to Japanese business men in Japan. Came back to the states and applied for veterinary school.
I think being a vet is more difficult as your patients cannot articulate how they feel. Cats for example are very good at masking pain, and avoiding situations where that weakness can be seen. I as a cat mum know my cat well, but he has never been one to tolerate petting. He is an old boy now at 12, and although I became concerned because he was no longer hunting and I felt in my gut something was wrong that was the only notable symptom. My vet then had to check him over (he is regularly seen), examine him and rule out a plethora of could bes. My cat was eating and drinking as usual, jumping up to his favourite places and everything else, the only change was his sport of choice which was to hunt. He has arthritic hips for which he is now treated, and he is back to hunting and dumping the headless prizes at my feet at least once a week now, down from his usual 3-4 times a week. He is a domesticated feral with a dislike for most other people but he has trained his human well.
I had to take both the VCAT and the GRE General and Biology when they were comparing them in 1991. Graduated from Illinois in 1995 with $54,000 debt… paid off in 4 years luckily. The VCAT was like an English comprehension exam / biology / physics exam. GRE was harder. Loved your video, enjoyed your discussions! I would not want to have another job, whenever I have a vacation I miss it. I am a general practitioner and surgeon. But I don’t miss some of the owners. Love curbside service.
Alright dr cellini’s brother is quite possibly my new favorite person to watch. Ps when he said “I don’t talk salary numbers on TH-cam” …..you actually do lol
Okok but as a CVT experiencing the same, I need to agree with DVM Cellini here. The description of going to battle is NOT an exaggeration lol. I think human Dr Cellini should shadow his brother one day 😌 and let him see the Techs work too! Bc enough times a tech's work(actually handling the fractious patients +/- skills) can cross over into vet's. It'd be an interesting episode.
I brought one of my cats to the vet since he was sick, they gave him some fluids and he was as good as new. It reminded me of why I wanted to become a vet in the first place. It was amazing.
So just a note , I graduated with a bachelor of fine arts had a great career in fashion design but I've always wanted to be a vet. I worked at hospitals through out college , took my pre-requisites while still working my full-time 9-5 and I got into vet school. So you can most definitely get in with your BFA . ( P.S. Sorry if my english writing is bad , its not my first language )
Greetings to bith of You, especially the vet brother. As a DVM in Uruguay we deal with pretty much the same things, except that here the education (whole vet school and the other carrers also) are public, free of cost!!
When I applied to vet school, there were 500 applicants for 85 positions. I had med school as my back up if I didn't get into vet school. Thank goodness I got in. It's hard enough dealing with people as a vet!
You two are very funny together..what about bro #3...the only time we've met him was in Hawaii, I believe. I commend your Mom who I'm sure encouraged you from day one, and also ensured you both saw an orthodontist as children....good on you Mom!! I'm sure we'd all love to hear from your wives too. Ps, dear, little 🐝 is one lucky, little girl.💕
I am an ordained minister. Education consists of an undergraduate degree, Seminary which is on average 4 to 5 years. Includes 3 years of Greek and two years if Hebrew. Then if you want further education which I did, it may mean 2 to 4 mire years depending on the Doctor of Ministry or the Ph.d track. Most ministers is between 63 and 120k per year.
A former colleague of mine, a DVM/MD , working “human” emergency medicine, had a patient get angry because he wouldn’t prescribe a narcotic for her. She left with a few choice words, finishing by stating “you’re not fit to care for a dog”! His response “oh contrare ma’am” !!
As a physician, I find it hard enough to deal with the differences between male, female, younger and older patients. I can't imagine how vets manage to treat different SPECIES. Unreal!
yeah that's crazyyy...Imagine being half time physician and half time veterinary tho. that has to be the rarest combo on planet Earth.
We learn 23 in school!
As a GP veterinary nurse, it's honestly just a way of life. It's a lot to learn and I am continually learning new things about various species, but we don't really think about it. When I'm on the dog side of the building, I put on my canine medicine cap, and on the cat side I put on my feline medicine cap. 😅 I work in predominantly small animal, so it's mostly just the two. Then again, I have also anesthetized an African bullfrog, taken rads on a guinea pig, placed a jugular IV catheter in a calf, and performed CPR on a mini pig. All at the same clinic.
When it gets wild is when you start considering diagnostic imaging, anesthesia, surgery, and dentistry all going on under the same roof. Most GPs don't have the luxury of a board certified specialist in house, so you have to be competent in pretty much every aspect of medicine at once. (And most meds are filled in house, so no pharmacist available to help.) My GP is sort of the extreme, but we do orthopedic surgery and some neurosurgical procedures in house, as well as our own CT interpretations. I'm pretty sure we have a nephrectomy coming up as well.
Also have to tell you that you have not lived until you've been involved in a C-section on a canine patient. My biggest litter to date has been nine (which honestly isn't even impressive) and it is mass chaos trying to get 9 puppies to breathe at the same time while the only DVM in the building is scrubbed into surgery and trying to stuff 2 feet of uterine horns back into the abdominal incision.
@@superjello3979 wow! Big ups to you! I was a biology major when my (previous) boyfriend's Golden Retriever went into labor and his dad called me to come deliver the pups. I grabbed scissors, dental floss and towels and hyperventated right along with Momma as she birthed healthy pups...my biggest fear was losing one. I did freak out when a few came out in intact sacs! Momma didn't break them, so I did. It was definitely unforgettable, even though about 25 years ago now.
@Laughingathwrld Only if you're delusional.
For me, dealing with the human aspect is by far the worst part of being a vet. Watching animals suffer due to the owner's greed, stupidity, and often noncompliance is disheartening. The flat out verbal abuse from clients had gotten exponentially worse over the past 2 years. It's gotten so bad that clinics in my area are sending out letters stating that if they can't speak to staff with respect then they're business isn't welcome.
Also, so often a client comes in, says do every diagnostic/ treatment available. Then it comes time to check out and they say "I don't get paid until next week. I only have $25." People don't do this for any other service- why do they think it's ok at a vet? You don't stand in line, have the cashier ring up your groceries, then say I'll have pay you later!!!
Also in vet med- it's been terrible. The first 6 months to a year, people were super nice bc we were "essential". Now we're in hell. I see a lot of people trying to vet hop so they can find someone who won't enforce curbside service. If the first words out of a potential new client's mouth are "ARE YOU LETTING PEOPLE COME INSIDE" I will likely tell you we're not accepting new clients...
As someone who also works in vet med, this strikes home. The verbal abuse has taken a toll, along with burnout. In my area, many veterinary practices have lost doctors and staff due to burnout and stress. Even our emergency veterinary practices cannot run the same way they used to. Things have been tough. I sympathize with you.
I am currently going to school to be a nurse in pediatrics.. I just wanted to say thank you so much to every one of you. All the vets I've met have taken great care of my kitty when I'd bring her in for her shots and or concerns (I'm and very protective pet owner) and no matter how much a visit is you all do such an amazing job and I love my little fur baby. Thank you so much.
No way... all my this time in my environment people saids that in USA (I'm from MX) Veterinarians have a better status, but now I can see that we are exposeded exactly the same way. somebody sayid mi yesterday that day by day, less people want to work as an small animal vet, is that really?
You're very right
Dealing with patients and their owners takes a special skill as does parenting. My cheers goes to vet Dr. Cellini.
This is facts
As a human nurse and dog mom, I have to agree. I constantly apologize to our vet and his staff because my boy just hates to go there. He is definitely muzzled, though, and has been professionally trained, but after getting his temp taken, his manners kinds go.
and don't let me start with hematology, in Vet, I have to remember and recognised at least 9 species of different blood cells. There is also difference between breeds.
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My husband was a third generation medic. He worked on an ambulance during college. His brother was killed in a car accident. He didn’t cry. He took an elder cat who had tachycardia to the vet. When he came home without the cat he insisted I leave with him. He drove to a parking lot, sat in the car and nearly cried, obviously traumatized.
Our planet needs to appreciate Veterinarians more! They're skilled and amazing!
My dog is a rescue who was shot through the brain as a puppy, (before we even knew he existed,) A veterinary college took him in and nursed him to health over the span of a year, and took him from a coma, to a paralyzed dog, to a fully happy but partially blind puppy!
He suffered with seizures for three years once I adopted him, but hasn’t had one single seizure in the last 18 months. Thank you to veterinarians and veterinary specialists for all they do. Nobody can even tell my dog is disabled, and his quality of life is just like any other puppy around. God bless you for all you do! I couldn’t imagine life without my doggy! Miracle workers!!
Veterinarian here! My sister has one year left of med school, and I can totally see us doing something like this in the future. We're both very supportive of each other, and it was fun to see that in your relationship, too!
how is being a veterinarian?
LOVED having your brother on, would love to see more of you two together. Such a smart family!
Thanks so much. Glad you enjoyed it!
I love this! I have been a specialty veterinary technician for over 16 years now and the amount of scrutiny and disregard we go under is so hard. we still are not treated as medical professionals by most of the community. Yay for vet med education.
Prech! 15+ yrs LVT. Mainly surgey. Went from er tech, to surgey, head sx tech. Surgey tech supervisor, to surgery/specialty tech supervisor. I moved and now I'm happily just a plan ol er tech lol 😆 😅 (I might be a little out of practice on a few things for on er floor lol)
i get so upset when I hear people talking about how vets are trying to scam people out of money because they don’t want to spend the money on their pets…vets really REALLY need to be paid more…it’s insane that it costs so much to go to vet school but you get paid a fraction of an MD. It truly is a labor of love…i dropped out of pre-vet because I couldn’t handle it, I truly appreciate everything you all do.
I’m a certified veterinary technician and though my focus is emergency and critical care, I have a soft spot for neuro after I had a post op hemilaminectomy beagle patient that I ended up adopting. Went from being unable to control his back legs or bladder to running. Was wagging his little tail when he woke up from anesthesia. Thank you veterinary neurosurgeons! ❤️
Fellow CVT here! I have a cat I adopted with Horner's syndrome and bilateral nystagmus following head trauma (HBC). It definitely makes you appreciate neuro.
Much respect to you in ECC work. I work in a weirdly specialized GP and it feels like I somehow stumble onto the majority of the emergent cases that come in and it is intense. Props to anyone who can do that for a living.
Dr. vet Cellini god bless you for dedicating your life to helping animals. You are appreciated beyond measure
I just subscribed to your channel 🙏🙏🐼🐼
@@alanna4148 thank you!
I agree.
I've had dozens of dogs over my long life, and thus have turned to many veterinarians for help along the way. They have without exception been warm, kind, and highly skilled people. (I'm afraid that I can't say the same about all docs for humans.) Perhaps veterinary medicine attracts only those who are motivated primarily by compassion and intellectual curiosity? Point is, people in DVM Cellini's profession have brought tremendous aid and comfort to my little guys and myself, and they've done it for comparatively modest returns. So much respect and appreciation!
Vets certainly aren’t in it for the money. They are so whip-smart to be able to practice what they do, and so compassionate and loving towards animals they’re bit by, clawed at, and urinated on daily.
They are criminally underpaid.
As a vet nurse, I assure you I'm in this field for the compassion and intellectual curiosity. I have 2 degrees, am licensed, and have 2 additional certifications (Fear Free and Pet Nutrition Coach), and I made $30k last year. I'd say the associate vets I work with made, at most, double that. We are definitely not in this for the money.
@@Fortune_44 actually if you check out the average salary for a veterinarian is $113,590 per year in the United States. Not bad in my opinion
Absolutely
@@liv0003Those websites don't really reflect reality. I google the average salary in Australia, for vets and trust me it's NOT reality. Here in Australia many websites say that the average new grad vet salary is 80k-95k+. This is NOT true. The reality is more like 40k-65k. Now compare that to the 300k+ it costs to go through vet school here (or more if you took several years at uni to get into vet school).A senior GP vet would be lucky to earn up to 100k a year. Considering we are professionals that are trained to do everything from dentistry, surgery, radiology, ultrasonography, histopathology, etc... we are criminally underpaid.
Also, when a dog gets a blood test, we often call you, the client with results. This won't or rarely happens in human med. You cannot call to speak to a human doctor. You have to pay for a separate consult to get your blood results back. And apparently WE are the expensive ones.
Being a full time VT myself, I would agree with your brother on the aspects of getting pooped on, peed on, vomited on, scratched to hell, and bit on a regular basis. I have the scars to prove it and so do all of the Vets I work with, as well as the other techs. It’s a rather physically and emotionally taxing job to not get paid for what the value is of helping and saving animal lives. Unfortunately I feel that until we begin to honor animal life, as we do that of humans, the pay out is not going to change. Hopefully it will some day! But one cannot sustain themselves and potentially others on an annual income of less than 30K and have good quality of life in the states, unfortunately.
Rant aside, great video! Thanks for the perspective.
thank you!
Amen! I want to keep doing my job, I do enjoy it, but I can’t survive. 😔
Also a tech and I couldn't agree more !
This. Second year vet and I've already started accumulating scars from work placements.
Yeah, I definitely agree. This is difficult though. The extra money has to come from somewhere. Where? I kind of think insurance companies, but then that's just another pain in the ass on the vet clinic staff has to deal with
Bro Dr Cellini- you confirm much of what I’ve heard about the veterinary path.
Sure wish DVM benefits matched the value of a DVM, because your vocation stands alone in serving the truly vulnerable and voiceless.
thanks nancy
couldn't agree more!
As a vet, thank you both for this clarifying discussion! So many important points made!! Good humor, too. 👏. Also 👍Not One More Vet 🙏
Could you explain me what is behind of that phrase (not one more vet)?
Find the page on FB. It is a movement to support the mental health of veterinarians, to lessen the incidence of suicide in the profession.
Jim is so hilarious, he can tell joke with an absolute straight face, love him!
I found this both interesting and entertaining. I am a UCDavis graduate from the School of Veterinary Medicine (1994) and one thing that you might mention is that after our 4th year in clinical rotations, we can begin practice immediately and are not required to complete a residency program as are human physicians. I think this debate between the two disciplines will go on in perpetuity. I like to joke with MDs, “how many species do you work on?”
Real doctors treat more than one species! 😁👍 lol my favorite saying throughout my vet career
How do I get into UC Davis?
Good deal! I'm from Benicia & all my pets went to Steven Krome. I believe he bought a practice in Walnut Creek. Wonderful fellow!
I’m a general practice veterinarian and agree with a lot of points in this video. I advise anyone wanting to become a veterinarian to only consider it if they will have considerable financial help from family members (100k plus). If not, prepare to never pay off your student loans or buy a home/raise children. If you shared the salary differences (including benefits provided by your employer), I bet the differences would be pretty shocking.
I also completely empathize for the DVM brother- communicating with pet owners can be very emotionally difficult, especially as a neurologist who deals with dogs in dire situations like paralysis and uncontrollable seizures.
I'm in school to be a CVT. My grandma keeps insisting vets make a ton of money (because she thinks I should be one) I keep putting her in her place...easily half a million in debt for maybe 100k salary. Can you call her and tell her I'm right?? 😂
My dog once got knocked by a car and was paralysed. He was dragging his feet around. The vet gave him something and in about 2 weeks, he was walking again. He had peed on the vet. I've never loved a person more than I loved that vet.
Driving Audi's vs subarus is a very accurate representation between the difference of vet vs human med
I actually love this brother dynamic, this was so fun! Do more videos together! Did your parents strongly encourage med school for everyone? Or did you all just happen to like this field?
Definitely harder to get into vet school than med school in parts of Canada. We have only a few vet schools and what school you're allowed to go to depends on what province you're a resident of. My province has 1-2 seats a year. Ultimately those odds are what made me fully give up on wanting to be a vet. It was my final straw after acknowledging the issues with other things like the lower income, the "only in it for the money" comments, seeing the neglect, and more. So much respect for my dogs vets!
I graduated medical school 1983. I’ve also rescued 56 dogs in my life. I’m almost always the only person in the rescue group that has any sort of healthcare training so I get all the sick dogs.
This means I have spent a lot of time in veterinary offices.
Veterinarian that I have seen the most often in the last 35 years is Dr. G.
One day, out of the blue, Dr. G said to me, “do you know veterinarians have higher IQs then do medical doctors.“
I was surprised by his statement. If anyone would’ve asked me, I would’ve guessed that the IQ was about the same for MDs and DVMs.
I asked him how he had come to that conclusion. He said that they were fewer veterinary school so it’s obviously harder to get to that school.
Dr. G had previously told me he had a hard time with the statistics course in his veterinary school. After I heard his statement I wasn’t surprised that he had a hard time with statistics.
How hard it is to obtain a position is dependent on how many people apply for that position.
What matters is how many people apply relative to the number of positions.
Many more people apply to medical school than veterinary school.
So just a number of positions in the vet school or med school is not an indication of how hard it is to get in.
When I had time I looked it up. Both veterinarians and MDs, on the average have an IQ two standard deviations above the normal mean. That is A score on the Weschler adult intelligence scale (WAIS) of about 132.
I don’t really understand why people have to decide which profession is morally superior. I would say both MDs and DVMs are probably morally superior to many professions but I don’t see how you could decide we are whether DVM or an MD is morally superior to each other.
My Radiologist, discovered that there is unwanted, uninvited breast cancer in me. It's so small that the Surgeon was surprised he found it. And, it saved my life surely. Thank God for Radiologist. ♡♡♡♡♡♡♡
Mixed animal veterinarian here. Love the video! Glad that TH-cam brought this in my recommended feed. I work on primarily cats and dogs, along with cattle, sheep, goats, and horses. I will say as an add-on that doesn't get much attention, vets who work with farm/large animals tend to have the most demanding physical strains.
I work in a general practice with 3 other vets at least 20-30 years older than me. All of them worked with large animals throughout their careers and all of them either have bad shoulders, bad knees, or a bad back. Now I am the only one taking care of all of our big patients. As much as I do enjoy going out on farm calls, it's a reality I will have to look forward to in my future. Large animal vets in general are much more difficult to come by and are in such high demand.
As a vet student whow I'll likely go into small animal GP, I have so much respect for your largies and mixed animal vets! It's not easy for sure, so dangerous and so challenging. I love largies, but I don't think I could ever do the stuff you guys do. Keep up the great work!
Then solving a dystocia must be painful to them😅😅😅
Two of my favorite TH-camrs in one video!! Love both of you and ya all are hysterical together.
Ayyye. Glad you like it!
This was hilarious!!! I hope you did a few more vlogs while together. DVM Cellini I hope you will do more vlogs on your channel.
We will. Don’t you worry!
You both seem so kind and are obviously so incredibly bright! Wonderful brother bond! That's some successful genetic material! My dad went to Penn Vet and practiced for over 30 years.
Love that
Great respect for your brother! Two of my Dachshunds had neck surgeries by a neurosurgeon. It was offered by a local general vet, but they weren’t specialized in this, worth the extra travel time, and money. Animals need specials like humans.
I've never heard of a GP vet doing neurosurgery :O ortho maybe, neuro never :O
@@silmuffin86 that vet office was putting their hands into lots of areas where they shouldn’t have been placing them. They ran a 24 hour emergency vet hospital as well, I waited an extra hour for my dog to taken in at other emergency clinic because I don’t trust them, even though he was a true emergency was taken back right as soon as we walk in.
Mike is such a nice younger brother, Jim is such a funny and protective older brother. Mike takes all Jim’s troll like a champ, Jim makes fun of Mike so naturally. This troll will last for life happily.
I had no idea your brother was a veterinarian! I've been waiting for a video like this, where a human physician and veterinarian compare their jobs, etc. And funny thing is, I'm on my neuro rotation right now! Thanks for doing this video!
I have DVM degree and whoa I agree on what your brother said. Vet practitioner deserve more for what they do. Long hours of working with little pay, not to mention the emotional burden. Due to this I don't work as practitioner and instead work in veterinary pharmaceutical. I just can't deal with all of that... So kudos to all veterinarian! Ofcourse the upside of it, is really rewarding. Seeing a patient that almost dying to be healthy again is just amazing, but being frustated at untreatable case is also devastating... I know we should just focus on what we can do, but for me the emotional burden is just too much :")
So true! I have a few questions though. Do you have to have a DVM degree to get into Veterinary Pharmaceutical? What's that field like and also do you think the pay is good?
@@breanamarksman5759 it depends on the jobdesk. Because I'm resposible for research and registration of veterinary drugs therefore it need DVM degree. Some technical service/sales position in veterinary pharmaceuticals also need DVM degree. For my position as regulatory affairs the payment is quite decent, but the real upside of it is ofcourse fixed working hours unlike vet practitioner
I never realized until now that one physician has patients who can not speak,as in "tell you where it hurts" etc..Also, how PROUD the parents must be raising and witnessing their children become Doctors. That had to be financially a huge endeavor! Thank you Doctors for caring for humans and animals-without you the human race would be extinguished
As a veterinarian from México, I could said that is exactly the same sad story. Even the physician brother seems to be much cheerful, but obviusly it could be not directly associated. My parents are veterinarians as well and my grand dad is a phisicyan and sometimes I claim "why did nobody warn me about?"
As a veterinary internist I agree with your take on myth of “vet school is harder to get into than med school” - totally agree in reality med school is likely more competitive. Thanks for touching on that
When I was a 4th year at Oregon State one of our medicine residents was on food stamps to support their family.
Not shaming food stamps, just an example of how challenging residency programs are financially.
The number of hours our large animal residents were on call was just unbelievable.
would you be able to talk me something about how is to do a residency program in USA as a foreing?
@@edz6388 That’s all I do not know much about. I do know that we had interns and residents with work visas. I would assume, you would find the school you are interested at doing a residency at And have to apply.
@@DogDocLou thank you very much, that's very helpful to me. I know that residents have a payment about 30k/y, but a do t know if that's true for every single speciality.
Good, awesome for Veterinarian. Very genius❤❤
Loved this video! I was recently accepted to CVM program and I loved hearing the comparison between human and vet med.
This right here is a video I would have loved as a pre-vet in high school and college! i was very torn between the two! I've been watching your channel forever and now i've been watching DVM Cellini since he started! love you guys, very inspirational for us!
As a Veterinary Technician I'd like to know the differences in support staff and how critical they are to both Human and Veterinary Medicine.
Oooh, that would be a great video. Get an ER nurse v ER tech, and then general practice nurse v small animal tech.
@@delightdelirium1 I don't see how an accurate conclusion could be reached without some epidemiologist input if you wanted to compare how well each system saves lives or results in healthy outcomes.
I would love these answers, I feel life vet nurses do so much more than human
I absolutely loved seeing you and your brother interact like this!!!! I had already been following DVM Cellini anyway but it is nice to see you together sometimes!!!!
I love watching you two together. The love is so visible. Do more of them!!!
This is cute. I love when human doctors and veterinarians get together instead of trying to separate themselves.
Most awaited video ❤️❤️❤️
Wait no longer!
I love the brother dynamic! Your guys are so funny. I know you’re busy, but I’d love more videos together!
Vet tech here, the statement about the cases where theres not much we can do really hits hard, especially regarding inbreeding.
tell me about it
Vet tech here, the hardest cases for me are the abuse/neglect cases and the financial limitation ones. It wrecks me every time we have a patient that we COULD save, but cannot due to financial concerns. There's something that feels incredibly wrong to me with regards to euthanising (for example) a foreign body dog whose owners can't afford surgery and medication , etc etc.
Genetics and financing
@@crowsong8097 This would have been us IF my cat was not insured. She dislocated her ankle in way that absolutely needed surgery to fuse it. Because she's insured it was promptly done and now she is totally fine. She can run, sprint, jump, grap and do everything. If you watch her long enough you realise one paw doesn't fold all the way inwards but apart from that you'd never know. But it would never have healed naturally, I saw the x-ray and the bones were miles apart.
I love the interaction between you and your brother and I love this video,hope to see more videos with you guys.
The interventional cardiologist I scribe for, his bachelor's was in computer science!
Omg the brother dynamic is hilarious 😂
I'm a CVT and currently in nursing school. People always ask why I made the switch. Its so hard to explain how heartbreaking the veterinary field can be. You stay in it for so long because you love to help the patients, but the industry as a whole is controlled by fortune 500 companies that make it impossible to be sustainable. I wish the clients understood that we in no way get any type of kickbacks and in fact are paid so poorly that we often have second jobs.
Just got accepted into veterinary school so this is highly entertaining to see!!
Leave. Seriously , you will never be happy
Congratulations! 😊
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This was interesting to me as I was a vet tech for 7 years and became a medical assistant in 2014. I found dealing with insurance in human medicine complex. I also enjoyed the perks from drug reps in veterinary medicine better as they had less restrictions. I wore more hats as a vet tech that I would not be allowed to do in human medicine without schooling and certification for these different roles.
Love this video!!!
I am a RN, critical care. Dealing with sick people is bad…pooped on, peed on, puked on, bitten, etc. But I could never work with sick animals. I would be crying all day. My hat is off to the vet techs and vets. ❤️ 🐾🐾
I'm a veterinarian whose undergrad degree is in political science and nearly had a minor in film study, so... some of us are crazy and go the complete opposite way like that!
I did a literature degree and now in vet school, it's harder for me for sure though.
So fun to see and hear you two answer questions…excellent info!
The collab we’ve all been waiting for
Just an added note, 2 vet schools (Missouri and Mississippi State) have a program where classes are sped up (8 weeks long and go through June) so that the 3rd and 4th years are doing clinical rotations. It's so much better than 3 and 1 at all the other schools. Also internships/residencies are not a requirement, you can graduate and go into practice making a wide range of money depending on where you are, but cost of living pretty much evens everything out.
Very interesting comparison, also I love the banter between brothers!
Such fun dynamic these brothers have. Enjoyed watching our doc brothers 😊
Your brother has a good sense of humour! On another note, I admire vets, it would be a tough gig I imagine.
As someone who’s trying to decide between med school (with an interest for intervention radiology) and vet school, I really enjoyed that video, it felt both could be my future self hahah!
You should follow your passion. That’s what I told my son, who is graduating this May from his Veterinarian program at St. George University. He took the GRE and majored in biology and biochemistry and had a good GPA, but not perfect, thus an island school. He has GI bill, loans, a wife and two kids as well as a hella lot motivation. He will intern in Mississippi soon. Good show docs
Tell your son "hello" from a SGUDVM grad. What a great college on a great island! BTW high or low GPA does not mean that someone has to go to an island school. There are buckets full of applicants to each of the Vet Colleges in the USA every year. After years of applying to those colleges, I tried two island colleges. Got accepted into both. I believe that I choose to attend the better of the two.
I am also a veterinarian student ...
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I send greetings for you both great Doctors . Thank you 👍
I want to thank you both for being there for man and beast. Loving this channel ❤ 😍 Smiling as I listen here.
I have two special needs dogs, and having learned how vets are often treated and compensated makes me so sad. Pet owners need to be kinder, more patient, and not expect services beyond their budgetary constraints. Many vets can't offer payment plans because they get burned so often, and it severely cuts into their already shallow bottom line.
My dogs are both seen at least once a month and I've made a concerted effort to bring in the occasional gift basket (not big, just something) for the entire staff - their jobs are difficult, and if I can brighten their day just a tiny bit, I feel so much better about taking up their valuable time.
Love these brothers...they're definitely a vibe.
I clicked on this so fast! I’m a veterinary nurse and I work for the neurologist… I love what I do every day, also much harder than human medicine 😉 (PS veterinary staff are waaaayyy underpaid)
You brother could always try to work out a collaboration with the youtube channel "vet ranch" were they help rescue animals get the medical help that they need.
Would love to
As a retired MD gastroenterologist, getting bit, pooped or peed on, vomited on, bled on are not limited to veterinarians!!
Lol
I was gearing up to argue that most vets experience it more frequently than MDs, but then I re-read gastroenterologist. I'll let you have this one! Ha
Once when I was a medical technician (human), I worked for a group of pulmonologists. I was a clic X-ray tech, but I wasn't certified. I only took lung Xrays.
Well during that time I had taken my 15 pound terrier mix to the emergency vet because he ate a pin cushion that was full of pins and needles. Somehow he didn't swallow any pin nor needles. I was given his Xrays and told to follow up with my regular vet. (The dog lived to be 17 years old and passed away 2021 just before Christmas. He had a grand mal sezure then had a vestibular problem, he didn't recover.)
But anyway, I had a funny idea at the time to take his Xray to work. He was a young dog back then.
So I hung his film under the light and left it there and didn't say anything. It was not marked like patient films, but it was next to the more serious ones. I took about an hour before I saw one of the specialis staring at it trying to figure out that "something just isn't right" feeling you get.
The clinic didn't treat pediatric patients, besides something wasn't even human. I let the puzzled doctors know what I was upto and everyone got a laugh once they realized that the mystery patient was my dog.
To cute to sweet to funny to smart ...more with your brother...parents so proud.
And yeah that is amazing. Doing a veterinary neurology residency that teaches you BOTH medicine and surgery. I think in the old days that human neurologists also did neurosurgery. But NOT ANYMORE.
Yes I loved this and let's see more like it.Since I have such respect for Doctors of both people and dogs this was fascinating. I will look forward to catching more of your videos,Happy New Doctor's!
The DVM who headed my technician program originally majored in Russian Language, taught English to Japanese business men in Japan. Came back to the states and applied for veterinary school.
As an emergency nurse I find these fascinating ❤️🥸🐈🏨💒☮️✝️✡️🕢🇺🇸🇮🇱
Always great to hear from the Cellini brothers !!!
I think being a vet is more difficult as your patients cannot articulate how they feel. Cats for example are very good at masking pain, and avoiding situations where that weakness can be seen. I as a cat mum know my cat well, but he has never been one to tolerate petting. He is an old boy now at 12, and although I became concerned because he was no longer hunting and I felt in my gut something was wrong that was the only notable symptom. My vet then had to check him over (he is regularly seen), examine him and rule out a plethora of could bes. My cat was eating and drinking as usual, jumping up to his favourite places and everything else, the only change was his sport of choice which was to hunt. He has arthritic hips for which he is now treated, and he is back to hunting and dumping the headless prizes at my feet at least once a week now, down from his usual 3-4 times a week. He is a domesticated feral with a dislike for most other people but he has trained his human well.
Yay! I'm from Dominica where Ross University was, and used to work at St.Georges in Grenada. Thanks for the shout out
Besides the topic- I love the interaction between brothers. It's so entertaining I don't know how..
I'm a first year at University of Georgia's vet school, and I majored in music in undergrad! You really can major in anything you want :)
I had to take both the VCAT and the GRE General and Biology when they were comparing them in 1991. Graduated from Illinois in 1995 with $54,000 debt… paid off in 4 years luckily. The VCAT was like an English comprehension exam / biology / physics exam. GRE was harder. Loved your video, enjoyed your discussions! I would not want to have another job, whenever I have a vacation I miss it. I am a general practitioner and surgeon. But I don’t miss some of the owners. Love curbside service.
Alright dr cellini’s brother is quite possibly my new favorite person to watch. Ps when he said “I don’t talk salary numbers on TH-cam” …..you actually do lol
😂 I know right
@@DVMCellini oh my gosh. I’m fan girling. Shoutout from stl!!
POSITIVE OUTCOME videos - a must!!!! Haha
vet Cellini is the best Cellini.
Okok but as a CVT experiencing the same, I need to agree with DVM Cellini here. The description of going to battle is NOT an exaggeration lol. I think human Dr Cellini should shadow his brother one day 😌 and let him see the Techs work too! Bc enough times a tech's work(actually handling the fractious patients +/- skills) can cross over into vet's. It'd be an interesting episode.
I brought one of my cats to the vet since he was sick, they gave him some fluids and he was as good as new. It reminded me of why I wanted to become a vet in the first place. It was amazing.
I would love to see the outcomes and in general more of you together, it was really entertaining! All the best for you 2 ^^
Please more good outcomes! I wish we had Dr. Jim in our lives before Iris’s injury !
Loved this video!! Thanks 🙏🏼 to you both for your gifts that help many!!
ONLY $120,000 for vet school (and including some cost from undergrad)? I wish... *cries in 2022 vet school tuition*
Lol I’ll be at the $250k mark.
So just a note , I graduated with a bachelor of fine arts had a great career in fashion design but I've always wanted to be a vet. I worked at hospitals through out college , took my pre-requisites while still working my full-time 9-5 and I got into vet school. So you can most definitely get in with your BFA . ( P.S. Sorry if my english writing is bad , its not my first language )
You’re english is good, better than my Spanish (which is my first language 😭)
I was making more at the front desk of our ER practice than our interns. I tried to be kind to them as much as I could.
Greetings to bith of You, especially the vet brother.
As a DVM in Uruguay we deal with pretty much the same things, except that here the education (whole vet school and the other carrers also) are public, free of cost!!
When I applied to vet school, there were 500 applicants for 85 positions. I had med school as my back up if I didn't get into vet school. Thank goodness I got in. It's hard enough dealing with people as a vet!
As someone contemplating veterinary medicine, this is helpful
You two are very funny together..what about bro #3...the only time we've met him was in Hawaii, I believe.
I commend your Mom who I'm sure encouraged you from day one, and also ensured you both saw an orthodontist as children....good on you Mom!!
I'm sure we'd all love to hear from your wives too.
Ps, dear, little 🐝 is one lucky, little girl.💕
I am an ordained minister. Education consists of an undergraduate degree, Seminary which is on average 4 to 5 years. Includes 3 years of Greek and two years if Hebrew. Then if you want further education which I did, it may mean 2 to 4 mire years depending on the Doctor of Ministry or the Ph.d track. Most ministers is between 63 and 120k per year.
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing!
And with great benefits, at least in my denomination.
A former colleague of mine, a DVM/MD , working “human” emergency medicine, had a patient get angry because he wouldn’t prescribe a narcotic for her.
She left with a few choice words, finishing by stating “you’re not fit to care for a dog”! His response “oh contrare ma’am” !!
Great vlog! 🥰 Please show more videos DVM Cellini!