SMALL PRICE; BIG DEVASTATION: BOSS 6 Broadhead Test
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 พ.ย. 2022
- This is a test of the 6 blade Boss 6 by All Blade Archery.
(Pictured with VIP Archery Match Point & Extract Broadhead)
Here is summary of my 2022 Testing Procedure & Scoring w/ the scores of the Boss 6 posted in parenthesis as well.
Total Score: 54.13 = 5 Golden Arrows
1. Flight Forgiveness (20%, 14 pts)
This is not simply a test of how the heads fly out of my bow, as it was in the past. With a well tuned bow, properly built arrows & good form, almost every head flies well. That's why in the past most heads got a flight score of 9 or 10. But that doesn't help those who may not have perfectly tuned bows/arrows/good form. So now I am gauging Flight Forgiveness. This is based on how the head flies for me, how "sensitive" the flight is to imperfections, & the exposed surface area of the blades. The max score a Mech can receive is 20 & the max score a Fixed can receive is 16.
2. Cut Size (20%, 17 pts)
The more tissue being cut, the more lethal the head, all else equal. The entrance cut, total cut, & width of the cut (which is a crucial variable for bloodletting) are all scored:
The entrance cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" then that fraction is weighted to 7% of the score. (3" = 7 pts)
The max cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" as well, then that fraction is is weighted to 7% of the score. (3" = 7 pts)
The max cutting diameter is compared to a standard of 2.0", then that fraction is weighted to 6% of the score. (1"=3 pts)
3. Blades (20%, 3.8 pts)
Initial sharpness (9%, 1075 grams = 1/10 = .9 pts ) & Edge Retention (9%, +450 grams = 1/10= .9 pts) are measured using the Edge On Up Sharpness Tester. The pressure needed for a blade to cut thru a copolymer wire is measured in grams.
Edge Retention is the loss of sharpness after the head is shot in Penetration Test 1, thru 1/2" MDF and 2/3" rubber foam mat & Clear Ballistics FBI gel. For every 50 "grams" of sharpness lost, 1 point is deducted from 10.
What are some sharpness scores for common edges?
A butter knife takes 2000 grams of pressure to break the co polymer wire.
A new high end cutlery edge: ~ 375 grams of pressure.
A utility razor blade: 200 grams.
Based on the many broadheads I have tested, here is my scoring scale:
Out of the Box Sharpness:
0-200 gr: 10
201-300 gr 9
301-400 gr: 8
401-500 gr: 7
501-600 gr: 6
601-700 gr: 5
701-800 gr: 4
801-900 gr: 3
901-1000 gr: 2
1001-1100 gr: 1
1101+ gr: 0
Ease to resharpen or replace blades is judged & given 2% of the score.
(10/10= 2 pts (replace only)).
4. Penetration (20%, 13.88 pts)
There are 3 different penetration tests:
Pen Test 1: 1/2" MDF, 2/3" rubber foam mat, Clear Ballistics FBI gel. The depth of penetration is compared to a standard of 9" & weighted to 9% of the score. (7.25" & score 7.25)
Pen Test 2: Layered cardboard. The # of layers penetrated is compared to a standard of 70 layers & weighted to 9% of the score. (36 layers = 4.63 pts)
Angled Penetration Test: How effectively does the head penetrate 1/4" MDF covered by carpet at a 45 degree angle. This accounts for 2% of the score. (2/2pts)
5. Durability (20%, 4 pts)
Each head is shot thru 1/2" MDF 3 times. Its condition is then judged 1-10 & weighted to 12% of the score. (4 pts)
If a head survives that, it is then shot thru 22 ga steel plate 2 times. Its condition is then judged 1-10 & weighted to 5% of the score. (0/10 = 0 pts)
If a head survives that, it is then shot into concrete once. Its condition is then judged 1-10 & weighted to 3% of the score. (NA)
Steel plate & concrete are certainly not "realistic" mediums, but they do reveal the outer limits of a head's durability.
BONUS: Heads will be rewarded bonus points for special, intangible features such as: rotation, no O rings/clips for mechs, extra thickness, hole size, other unique designs, etc.
+1 extra large cut
+1 modularity-used w/any broadhead or field tip
+1 devastating tissue damage
Total Score: 55.68 = 5 Golden Arrows
Price: $3.33/head
In addition the Overall Numerical Score each head will also receive a LUSK GRADE in 0-10 Golden Arrows as follows:
90-10 =10 Golden Arrows
85-90 = 9 Golden Arrows
80-85 = 8 Golden Arrows
70-80 = 7 Golden Arrows
60-70 = 6 Golden Arrows
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This looks like a great idea for adding to a turkey style fixed broadhead to increase damage and slow the broadhead as it penetrates the bird. I think it would also make a great small game head with combined with either a field point or small broadhead. I dont think I'd trust it on deer as it may not work well if it hits a bone and its design will limit penetration
I agree
Came here to say the same thing.
Yeah, I hear ya. Remember, this is their crossbow model; they make ones with fewer blades for vertical bows, so they will penetrate more effectively.
I use them on frogs. They work great and the frog won't pull off on the retrieve.
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Looks like they accidentally came up with an awesome concept for a turkey broadhead haha, even with a penetration limiting broadhead on there would be killer. Thanks for the vid john!
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I would consider utilizing this head if I were stranded and starving and had my bow and one arrow missing a head, and in my desperation sat down and saw one of these heads laying on the ground. Providential!
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Man I love how you test all kinds of products, I agree with most comments. Looks like a great edition for a big expandable turkey head. Love your videos John.
Thank you Cole.
I have used them for about 4 years. I have shot 2 eight points and a nine point and a doe. Every shot was a pass thru exect for the 9 point. None ran more than 60 yards. Will continue to use them. Using a crossbow. Mike from Michigan
Good to hear! Thank you for sharing that experience.
What a fun test!
Thank you.
make those blades with a normal cutting pattern and I can see some usefulness. as for now, maybe for turkey? The accuracy is not really up to snuff for me though?
Yep. Good comment Chris.
looks like the adders I use for squirrel. I'll bet they're good for squirrels, but I wouldn't even think about throwing them at anything turkey-sized or larger.
Thanks for sharing that.
Not something I'd ever use but interesting.
Yep.
I would not feel right using for deer, maybe turkey.
Yeah, I understand that. Some people swear by them.
Ordered 2 packs. Always looking for bigger holes. Thanks for posting.
Good luck.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures Thank you. These are the heads I mentioned on a few of your other videos for making hybrids. I use a 405 fps crossbow and pair these with a 500 grain gold tip arrow. The end weight is 505-525 depending on what exact broadhead I pair it with and my lighted nocks. I think I should get good penetration with these seeing how as I usually get complete pass throughs with just a regular broadhead by itself. I'm only not had one pass through and that was because it hit the opposite side leg exiting and broke the doe's leg. She carried the arrow about 10 feet before dropping it and she only went 60 yards. Thank you for all your replies and for all the videos you make. It really helps the community. When talking with other hunters and friends, even committing on other TH-cam pages I often refer to your videos.
Fun stuff. That apple looked delicious.
Haha.
Neat. Turkey for sure. Might want to lay the apple down and shoot at the stem next time John? Cored indeed! My Best, Dozier
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Lose the serrations, beef up the blades, make it sharp.... then you might have something as an add-on collar. As it is, it's just a small game and turkey thing.
Good comment.
So wouldnt this grab on bone or potentially stop a pass thru
Yep...probably so. But it would do a significant amount of damage on the way.
Wouldn't want to shoot this thru a deer!
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I will probably be picking up some of these just for hunting small game
They’d do well on that for sure. I was impressed with them.
Gotta give them credit for creativity. However, for my own style of hunting,I don't see a match. But for people hunting raccoons ? I think they would kick ass.
Great test once again John. I'd have liked to see fresh ones thru the steel and another @ the concrete once it was determined the head couldn't hold up.
Gel penetration actually was decent @ 7.25. MDF ? About half what some of the top heads do. But again for a raccoon, ? Why not ? I see small game all over this.
Thanks again John, keep digging up these interesting heads. Much appreciated.
Thanks Mike :)
This concept but with sharper razor type blades maybe a little stronger, but I'm going to try some on coyotes and see what they do
I imagine they will do well on yotes.
Mr Lusk- The world would be super curious for you to test the solid 3 blade broadheads with and without the bevel change from the 344 sharpener to see if it makes a large difference or not. Keep up the amazing work!!!
send him some test blades and i’m sure he’ll do it 👍🏽
That's a good thought. I have sharpened them on vids before and shown the increased sharpness gained. But honestly, sharpness has less to do with depth of penetration than people think--especially with the test mediums I use. I've compared a razor sharp head to one I dulled with a file--like butter knife dull--and it still penetrated almost as well.
That being said, I do think it will make a difference in blood letting, as it cuts tissue more efficiently. I just don't have a test for that.
Man all these broadhead tests sure made it hard to pick one. I finally settled for the sevr titanium 2.0s. The 125s at approximately 390fps out of my crossbow should work REALLY well.
Sounds like a lethal setup. I wouldn't expect any issues at all
@@thwackTX you shoot sevrs?
Man, those are excellent heads.
I'm way ahead of you John. I came up with this idea 2 years ago. Wanted to find a way to slow down arrows after pass thru. I am using a crossbow and even the widest cut heads go through like butter and sail away up to 50 yds if shooting on level ground. I never followed thru and continued the test on a line animal.
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What field points do you use with the scoop in the tip?
I mention it in the video--they're from VIP.
I agree with Long Draw...turkey is about all this thing should be used for. I hope this company isn't marketing this for deer and other large game. It's defeating the whole purpose of a broadhead. I imagine the penetration is horrible on game.
I understand the concern. And I'm not advocating for them. But remember, this is the crossbow model. They make them with fewer blades for vertical bows as they get better penetration.
My only question is real penetration???? The saw teeth to me not only rips going through but I believe would get hung up????? I honestly would not have the heart to try this on any large animals unless you want to track maybe half the day? Turkey, rabbits etc. sure no problem. As always John thanks and God bless.....
Yep, that's a concern. Remember, these are the crossbow models; they make them with less blades for vertical bow set ups, and those will penetrate better.
Kinda cool idea
I'd try em
Thanks for watching
Would definitely like to see some test with your highest scoring fixed blad and highest scoring mechanical broadheads to see the difference. Also think the thorn crown be interesting to see tested with
He has a test with the thorn crown. And if you look in his lists he has them all rated
I know the sevr 1.5 is the top mechanical.
I did test the Thorn Crown. If you ever wonder if I've tested a head, just search on TH-cam: LUSK then the name of the head. It will come up. Like Thorn Crown Lusk, for example.
At the end of each year, I post an annual Year End Summary of all my tests and scores. I just finished this years and will post it in a few weeks.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I was asking if you could test the boss with them. Just woundering how they would do. I love watching your test
Stump shooting and small game sleeve. I would hesitate to use that on deer sized game or hogs. It is an interesting concept though .
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Would love to see you harvest a deer or hog with that head. They're considered barbed right?
They would be barbed, which is illegal in several states, but not most.
Have you ever tested Bone Broadheads?
I wanted to, but they went out of business during Covid--or at least paused their production.
I think I would flip that sucker 180* for squirrels.
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That would be hood for turkey hunting
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Looks like an awesome small game head, and that is a legit need for bow hunters, at least it is for me, I would not want to use a high $ big game broadhead to shot a rabbit or grouse (which I love to do). Also They look like the would resist ring buried in loose soil or grass , I hate loosing expensive arrows shooting g at a squirrel or some other small game, I like this one
Thanks for the comment.
Yup exactly. TURKEY.
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I think these would still be great for small game but I wouldn't use it on big game
Thanks for the comment.
For all the naysayers......I actually think this would work as good as a rage!
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So, I’m thinking I’m gonna pass on this one.
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I think it would blow thru a rib cage tearing up lung tissue..but yes one and done. If they can make it more durable then it b a seller...
Yep
I’d love to see what it does to an animal. But wouldn’t mind seeing one made for bows and not crossbows.
Thanks for the comment.
This & crossbreed elite & a fixed broadhead & u will have carnage 😆
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No turkey will survive that
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Maybe on turkey and smaller.
Yep. They make them with fewer blades for vertical bows and larger animals.
LOL! nope.
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I can't comment lol.... But I know a few guys, they love umm.
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Seems pretty gimmicky as far as big game goes! It would probably be great as a cost effective small game point, but I would steer clear of medium r large game.
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Any one who uses that on a deer should have there ass kicked not for big game
Some people really love em.
Turkey’s Beware
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What the hell even is that?
No thanks , looks like a bottle cap gone bad . Your testing standards are based on real world design needs to enable efficient/humane taking of game animals. It’s my opinion the reason it can’t be tested to your standards is it should not be used on game animals . It has possibilities but needs a lot of improvement before I would even give it a serious look.
"bottle cap gone bad" lol love it, actually I bet a bottle cap could be used to make something similar for small game
Thanks for sharing that :)
What do I think 🤔? Junk and a waste of time. It goes against everything Archery wise.
Some people swear by them :)
BOSS doesn’t seem as fitting as POS. 🤷♂️
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i sure hope no one uses those on medium to large game...for the animals sake. that is one that i think should be illegal to hunt with.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Yeah, that’s pretty dumb.
Some people swear by them.
Seems like a horrible idea......
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