Not when you live in a country where that's the preferred transmission. Or live in an area where everyone surprisingly knows how to use one despite owning an automatic.
Same. I’ll never buy new and I’ve saved a boatload doing so. No one wants my 2007 Ram. 😂 That said the resale value is probably worth more than I paid given the prices of vehicles these days.
@@johnadona3014 This really isn’t a bad idea if the mileage is low enough. Cost me $2000 to fix the rust on my truck and it looks new again. Rams are notorious for early rusting, I don’t recommend one.😔 I reckon it would cost more for his Honda van to fix though, but sometimes it is worth it.
And the fact François-Philippe Champagne thinks banning the Flipper Zero will stop this issue and not auto makers actually spending money on innovation. 😂
But, we can’t have people running around the country with a device capable of turning people’s TVs on and off! It’s unheard of. Can you imagine the havoc that could be caused if someone had a device capable of turning off any TV? And it’s not like there aren’t tons of more powerful and more capable devices out there that could be used- nope, just the flipper. The one true villain is a terrifying little device disguised as a toy of all things and it needs to be banned! Lol. Dude is so ridiculously uninformed it’s actually terrifying… and, I’d like to know where people are getting genuine flippers for “$50-$100.” I’d like to stock up…
everyone buy one for all your friends and family. its a harmless pen-testing tool, more akin to a toy and cant be used so easily. cars have been stolen and sold abroad for decades. flipper was more or less just released...
Kind of funny how the cars that were easy to steal 10-15 years ago are a much safer bet now, because you actually have to physically break the ignition etc, and that’s work!
Huh?!?! 10-15 years ago... They came out with "CODED KEYS" These were also easily defeated. I was a car thief for 15 years and I can tell you how any make and model is stolen. A car with a KEY you need to physically break the lock sometimes unplugg connectors chabge the cars computer.
@@biggestmvp1nothing is guaranteed BUT thieves will probably go for those easy to steal,making safety features like removing wheel, passwords are probably good protections. Soooo. I got my ,kid (who thought could do anything with cars) But the darn electronics were so complicated, he had problems
The fact that the hacker drives an early 2000s Lotus Elise with the only computer in that car probably being the ECU; one of the most analog car an enthusiast could buy. Smart man.
@@thaik56 It depends on the make and model, but it certainly takes more time and is more visible than most thieves want. Those types of thieves like to target places where owners leave cars unattended for hours or days.
"a key like we used too?" All that's ever been needed is the know-how and the tools. It's always been easy to steal cars. The more money that's in it, the more you see it on the news.
It is a matter of time and skill. A vehicle that requires a physical key for ignition takes time and mechanical skill to steal without triggering the anti-theft alarm. A vehicle with an accessible and mimicable FOB, plus a push button start, and wildly available tools to do just that, will be more efficient to steal.
A guy tried this recently, and the police said they couldn't do anything while the car was sitting in the railyard. The railyard police in Canada is corrupt and has their own jurisdiction. The guy that had the tag in his car watched as his car sat, and then ended up in like Dubai or something crazy.
Avoid buying the top five most stolen makes in Canada: Acura/Honda, Lexus/Toyota, Jeep/Dodge, Land Rover and Ford. Next, use a steering wheel club lock. And if you can, stick to older vehicles with physical, metal ignition keys - you can still get nice VWs, Nissan, Subarus, GM and others from 2018 or so thus equipped. This will decrease the odds of your car being stolen. Bonus points if you drive a manual transmission. For example, no one in Africa wants your 2017 Mitsubishi RVR with 2wd and manual shift.
My last car was stolen twice, and not again, once I got a $50 'The Club'. It's not elegant, and I hear people complain that it's ineffective, but I see it as one more hassle that the next guy isn't using. And I keep my passenger compartment visibly empty, as recommended by cops, the last time I literally--cautiously, letting them go, because I'm not going to get whacked for a Honda--confronted thieves attempting to steal it (pre-Club).
They all thought I was cheap to not replace my dying battery and constantly use my portable booster everytime I wanted to use it...if only my car was worth stealing...
"Car makers are working on it". Are they? First, it costs them a lot of money to develop new anti-theft systems (not worth it for them). Second, if the stolen car is a lease or a finance, which it almost always is going to be, since it has full coverage, the car manufacturer gets paid out by the insurance company and the owner ends up buying another new vehicle. Win-win for the car manufacturer.
Sounds very true, now they will spend years developing it like they've done already, some savvy kid will come by and out smart them. Meanwhile there are x number of cars up to this date still out there.
"not worth it for them" Which is precisely why it should be mandated then. Government absolutely has the ability to impose regulations which would slow thefts significantly by enforcing manufacturers to secure vehicles far better than they are right now. Its failure and passing the buck from top to bottom - big shocker.
In many cases they are required to continue the lease in another vehicle. See the Toronto man who had 3 Lexus RX350's stolen and Lexus wouldn't let him out of his lease. Sold the same guy 3 cars and all he wanted was to borrow 1.
I was an installer for under the MPIC immobilizer program for 6 years. Honestly the more tech you add, the easier it is. I have a 72 Mustang with some anitheft stuff I added and Honestly would say it works better lol. I've jhad the car since I was 16 and I'm 50 now. I know how to bypass lots of stuff, i don't tell people how, but here's what these people don't tell you. The idea of theft deterrents is to deter and add time needed to take the item, not to make it impossible to steal. Ask the manufacturer or the trainer's. When I took my course, they all said it was to make it more difficult, but not to say impossible and hopefully the thieves move on to an easier target, so that would be the next car, now is that car your car, probably lol. Thieves are opportunist and look for the easiest score. Don't leave anything in your vehicle.
A base model sub compact with a manual transmission is a good deterrent. Even the theif can drive manual, it's not worth stealing, even when it's new. But you can't get those anymore either.
People don't seem to realize that it was impossible to steal the cars from 15-20 years ago. All of the new "technology" put into cars was done simply to revive the auto theft industry and keep police employed. Auto theft ended in the early 2000's and now it's back again..... because the government needed to have it back again.
Thank You for the Tutorial! 😍 1. No need to go to LA for a tutorial. Y'all should have came to South Shore Montreal or Brampton. 2. Honda CRVs are the top stolen cars in Canada right now. People keep buying them. Honda isn't doing much to stop this (>2023 have patched this). 3. Push to Start SUVs are the easiest. A TAG sticker is an easy deterrent. So is an age of >10 years and a manual transmission. 4. The risk/reward ratio is favourable, as the cops target law abiding citizens who do 120 kmh instead of 119, gamble with the parking signs, and forget their doors unlocked. The penalties aren't severe enough for theives who usually a) One Picks the Lock and leaves the car unlocked b) Another comes and plugs in the OBDII port a tablet running a legitimate entreprise account c) another steals the plate of a matching car d) the car is used for crime jobs where the actual owner is held liable (like that Mall Drive) e) after the crime, the car gets burned, or stripped for parts f) A Quebec car arrives in Nigeria. We need the police to start doing their job again!
Manufacturers should give owners the ability to turn doors and hatches into a manual mode where you have to put something in the door to open it. Ya know...like a key?!!!
If they can't ship out, it's useless to steal... The question is, why it's such easy to ship so many cars out of the Montreal.... Border service can easily scan those container and question that...
End to end organized crime IMO. Insiders at the ports. CBSA's incompotence doesn't help. They're the same foolish government department that brought us ArriveScam. If they run the port as well as they ran that project, then no wonder there is an express lane for stolen vehicles at the port of Montreal.
@@blikpils Yes easy to break in, but much harder to start. It is well know that cars with a mechanical key combined with an immobilizer (pretty much every cars without keyless option that are still running on the roads) are the hardest to steal.
Journeymen mechanic here, the old cars you can literally steal, with a good thief, in less than 2 minites. The key simply moved a geared rail with contacts that will operate all power functions on your ignition, there were some models starting from the 90s to the 2000s that had a specific resistor figure that had to be seen, key pass, so even though the ignition lock would turn, the immobilizer would not allow the car to start.
Funny thing is, if car manufacturers wanted, they could make cars alot harder to steal. It's easy money for them every time a car gets stolen it gets replaced
I dont think so -- I wont by another car that is being targeted again over and over - I will look at another brand. So its in their interest to add more deterents to not lose customers. Cheers
Carmakers could stop this instantly, but they won't because they're the ones making billions of dollars off of all these cars that have to be sold to replace the stolen ones. What a great idea for the car company.
If you buy a car and it get's stolen repeatedy, are you going to buy another one? Probably not. If insurance rates on a car go up obscenely because that car is always getting stolen, is that going to make that a desirable car to buy? Probably not. Does it make sense for automakers to make their cars easy to steal in order to get more people buying them? Probably not. The problem isn't the cars or the manufacturers. It's the people stealing the cars.
So why are there no inspections of these containers??? How could customs not notice vehicles with Ontario plates going overseas?? Something tells me this could be an inside job. 🤔
Of course it's an inside job. It's for the same reason that Service Ontario employees were caught giving out illegal services or how Iranian oligarchs and Libyan war criminals get Canadian citizenship under dubious circumstances.
I still remember my dad removing some part from the engine when our car was going to be left alone for a while. Good luck with thieves trying to start it. 😄
simple solutions de-pin the 2 can bus wires running to the OBD port and run a hidden gas pedal disconnect switch! You can even buy programs to disable your remote unlock feature.
Im a developer and i can easy make type of signal that can not be hacked/recorded with usecase, some old cars have old methods to sending signals between car and keys thats why they can be hacked, but nowdays we can make it more secure
We need stronger laws. You steal a car 3 years in prison. (Even under age) You steal another… 6. Another …. 12. You break into a home or use a gun or knife…. Much more time.
The two main thing people need to do is: a) Start hitting the unlock button (not trust the keyless system), and make sure to look to the car's flashers to confirm it was actually locked; and b) Foil a shoe box with aluminum foil, both on the inside and out, and place your car's key fob inside that shoe box whenever you arrive home, in order for the RF (Radio Frequency) signal to not propagate, and be expanded by criminals, in order to fly off with your car from your driveway. Please, be more careful. This way, we all can (a) be safer and less stressed, and (b) bring the insurance premiums down to everyone.
The locksmith requires access to the car's OBD2 port to reprogram the PATS. Therefore, you need to break in the vehicle to access & have a key fob. Plus it doesn't take 5 secs to reprogram via the scan tool. The first hacker is more potent as it can code grab and replicate however you need to press the key fob to activate
I park my 2004 accord with a manual transmission in my driveway and leave the doors unlocked so nobody smashes a window to look for goods. Moved about 8 years ago and can't keep it in the garage and it's been fine. I live in a rural area so less people around which helps a lot.
I've got a 1990 Mitsub. wagon. Never lock it. Had it 17 years, come July. Never broken down. Have done serious travelling in Oz, from Cairns to Hobart. Can do 140 ks with a full load on board for passing. Cruises at 110ks no dramas; like it's not even trying @ 2000 rpm. Still get the same economy I did in '07. 12 lts per 100ks around town. 9.5 on a trip. Wait for this: the head has never been off since I've owned it. Doesn't blow smoke. Uses about 200mls of oil every two or three months. Not an oil leak to be seen. Keep your new 'jelly bean' cars; I'm not the slightest bit interested! Paid $400 for it. $7K in maintainence in 17 years. Go figure?!
Not only is it easy, but you don't even get punished in Trudeau's Canada. We are focusing on making cars harder to break into instead of correcting the actual criminal behaviour. You know, to actually deter them.
Motor vehicle theft is similar to theft over $5,000 in that it carries with it a similar penalty. Someone who steals a motor vehicle, is guilty of an indictable offence and is liable to a maximum of 10 years imprisonment.
There should be class action suits agains Automakers. May be Insurance providers too. Its good business for automakers as victims will have to purchase another car. Insurance providers increase premiums to maintain profits. Consumers are the ones who lose big time as the 1-2 year old car has depreciated. 5 years minimum for stealing a car, 10 years for car jacking. 1 year additional per car, (if you are the brains of the activity you get 5+ number of cars). If car thefts are reduced, automanufacturers and Insurance Providers should foot the bill for prisons.
around here its usually highschoolers that take a car for a joy ride then leave it somewhere not too far away and the owner gets it back a few days later. I think the lower barrier to entry actually made it so the cars wind up returned in better condition. When my neighbor's kia got stolen the police told him "its because its a kia." and it was found a mile away a few days later. Now near the city generic white cargo vans get stolen and they do not return, but the rudimentary models they target usually have roll up windows
There needs to be a way to sync your car to your phone allowing you to put your car in "sleep mode" which means if the car is turned on, or detected to be in motion, your phone gets alerted and you can have the option to shut it down.. or if the car goes out of range of your cell phone during this setting being on, it shuts down automatically. Could also get phone alerts if your car door is opened, etc. I'm sure this technology could exist after seeing all this other technology.. it seems like such an easy solution.
Retired police officer here... The auto industry can easily prevent car theft but have absolutely no incentive to do so. Every car stolen and wrecked or shipped off shore is another car that will be purchased to replace it. Win-win for the automotive sector and that's the way it is. It's not right but that's the way it is. Legislation to force the auto industry to prevent theft is a possible solution.
I drive old cars that run just fine but aren’t worth stealing to ship around the world, and I keep an AirTag in each of them with the speaker disabled so I’ve got a good chance of recovery if one does go missing
With automotive theft rising like this, these automakers should start putting vastly more resources into theft prevention, and lay off bells and whistles that consumers are not necessarily asking for... 😬
Good. People need to walk. Cars are unaliving (youtube newspeak) Canadians and Health Canada refuses to acknowledge it or label motor vehicles appropriately.
I make sure my Uniformed and Armed driver always stays with my Bentley, when I go do my weekly shop at Target. For other journeys , I take my 5 year old Tesla - because thieves know it probably only has 10 miles battery range on it.
If your car is stolen, you need to get a new one. So why would the manufacturers be interested in reducing thefts when it boosts their sales? No idea - but maybe that explains why the "issue" has not been solved yet.
because Liberals do nothing to stop it, and thiefts get no sentences or not much for that crime. , because Liberal release them or let them make their time at home, where they just cross the door and still can steal cars and come back home lol .....funny isnt ? no ,... Liberals are so much inclusive they even include Criminals
the only way to stop this is to work with other countries... telling them any car ship to those countries should be verify by those port for any possible stolen cars.. another way is to set up a base in those countries then get every vehicle ship down there with their Vn for any possible stolen cars... best advice. lastly anyone buying vehicle from any dealers in those countries has to verify history about the car before buying and when you are registering any vehicle at the motor vehicle the agency has to verify the car for possible stolen before issuing plate.. trust me thats another way of creating employment in those countries...
What is wrong with a good old manual key? Sure unlock the far with a fob but just have one of those lip out keys built into the fob. I see little to no benefit of a push to start.
That was the advice I got when I parked in an underground parkade in Vancouver. Windows down, doors unlocked, glove compartment open and empty, not even loose change in the cup holder. “Go ahead, look around, nothing to steal”.
if you drive an old truck no one wants to steal that your basically invisible on the road. no one would care or give you a second glace ever. that is the best deterrent.
People (every insurance policy holders) pay for stolen cars via insurance. When insurance companies have more revenue government makes more tax money. When a vehicle is stolen another car is purchased, again tax is collected. Another car sold for the auto makers. No incentives for them to do anything. We are paying and crying.
After looking at videos like this, I have no plans to buy new. My car is 12 years old and still runs great. Auto makers needs to do something about this. Otherwise, more vehicles will be stolen and shipped overseas.
I used to hear of guys who would pay someone to steal their car for the insurance money. Today it is the opposite. I want MY CAR I don't want the money ( you will never get the same vehicle you have right now) Never. God forbid you hurt anyone who is actually stealing your vehicle. YOU will be going to jail/ and probably get no bail And get beaten up while you are in jail. Everything today in Justin's world is upside down. There is a reason for that. But not today/ not here.
This car stealing is getting very bad specially in Toronto area, i think some of it is scam and somehow done by the owners of the cars, to get money from insurance companies, what government should do is way bigger punishment for the thieves, not only they have to go to jail , also pay big fine money after their time. Another way to deal with this is car makers make a code( starting, or entering to car code) that is very complicated for them to find out, the driver finger print, eye or touch contact, or something( is build in the car , but the driver set it up, after buying the car) , no car can be sale without have such a thing! You also need to have better control on shipping places, in Canada they are three major ports that they ship the cars out, Montreal, Vancouver, Halifax,( i say Montreal could be the top one, it is near Toronto) put more control there, that's where the cars ship to outside of Canada .
We needed to bring back some Old Fashion Key Operated Door Opening / Locking / Engine Start / Off Mechanism to combat the easily fooled Electronic Lock / Ignition Systems we have nowadays to combat AI Powered car thieves! Old Fashion Steering-Wheel Locks can slow down car thieves! 🕯🌍
Rusted quarter panels and a manual transmission are reliable deterrents.
🏳🌈 stickers help also
Not when you live in a country where that's the preferred transmission. Or live in an area where everyone surprisingly knows how to use one despite owning an automatic.
Agreed. Nobody steals a beater unless the keys are in it and if they did, it’s just a beater.
😂😂
As an owner of a rusty manual car with crank windows I concur
Not a lot of things make me feel good about driving a 20 year old rust bucket Honda minivan.. But this video and the auto theft crisis does.
So glad too! Lol, my car is 30 years old...not rust bucket yet.
Same. I’ll never buy new and I’ve saved a boatload doing so. No one wants my 2007 Ram. 😂 That said the resale value is probably worth more than I paid given the prices of vehicles these days.
Love my 15 yo car. Without onstar.
maybe fix the rust?
@@johnadona3014 This really isn’t a bad idea if the mileage is low enough. Cost me $2000 to fix the rust on my truck and it looks new again. Rams are notorious for early rusting, I don’t recommend one.😔 I reckon it would cost more for his Honda van to fix though, but sometimes it is worth it.
And the fact François-Philippe Champagne thinks banning the Flipper Zero will stop this issue and not auto makers actually spending money on innovation. 😂
But, we can’t have people running around the country with a device capable of turning people’s TVs on and off! It’s unheard of. Can you imagine the havoc that could be caused if someone had a device capable of turning off any TV? And it’s not like there aren’t tons of more powerful and more capable devices out there that could be used- nope, just the flipper. The one true villain is a terrifying little device disguised as a toy of all things and it needs to be banned! Lol. Dude is so ridiculously uninformed it’s actually terrifying… and, I’d like to know where people are getting genuine flippers for “$50-$100.” I’d like to stock up…
That guy is a doofus.
Never heard of the Flipper Zero. Neat. I'm going to have to get one.
Its the only thing they know how to do. Just look at gun control....
everyone buy one for all your friends and family. its a harmless pen-testing tool, more akin to a toy and cant be used so easily. cars have been stolen and sold abroad for decades. flipper was more or less just released...
Kind of funny how the cars that were easy to steal 10-15 years ago are a much safer bet now, because you actually have to physically break the ignition etc, and that’s work!
Huh?!?! 10-15 years ago...
They came out with "CODED KEYS"
These were also easily defeated.
I was a car thief for 15 years and I can tell you how any make and model is stolen.
A car with a KEY you need to physically break the lock sometimes unplugg connectors chabge the cars computer.
@@Spyderz-xo9rz what's your recommendation to prevent car theft in the current era? Something guaranteed no matter where your car is parked.
@@biggestmvp1 flub with the OBD port on the older cars so you can't plug anything in easily or so it just doesn't work.
@@biggestmvp1nothing is guaranteed BUT thieves will probably go for those easy to steal,making safety features like removing wheel, passwords are probably good protections. Soooo. I got my ,kid (who thought could do anything with cars) But the darn electronics were so complicated, he had problems
@@biggestmvp1 Armed guard.
The fact that the hacker drives an early 2000s Lotus Elise with the only computer in that car probably being the ECU; one of the most analog car an enthusiast could buy. Smart man.
Early cars are even easier to get into and steal, all you need is to picklock the door, get in and rewire a few cables
@@SMGJohn Early 2000s already have immobilizer, you can't start them by just splicing some wires.
@@thaik56 It depends on the make and model, but it certainly takes more time and is more visible than most thieves want. Those types of thieves like to target places where owners leave cars unattended for hours or days.
@@946towguy2 you're right. Not all makes incorporate Immobilizers from the same year let alone incorporate it at all.
@@946towguy2 IDK based on some of the footage they were taking cars right off the driveway.
There was a perfectly flat white wall to the right of the van to project on, but I guess using the van is cool.
That immersion though
edited ... projector standing flat at the floor
Vans don't even get stolen that much might get an old beater van lmao
Whats wrong with just using a key like we used too?
I guess you can hot wire a car but you gotta damage the steering column. Wireless hack is easier and no damage. And the trend right now.
"a key like we used too?"
All that's ever been needed is the know-how and the tools. It's always been easy to steal cars. The more money that's in it, the more you see it on the news.
It is a matter of time and skill. A vehicle that requires a physical key for ignition takes time and mechanical skill to steal without triggering the anti-theft alarm. A vehicle with an accessible and mimicable FOB, plus a push button start, and wildly available tools to do just that, will be more efficient to steal.
It's like buying a safe for personal use but so easy for anyone to break in. Then no one wants it, and the company is held liable.
YOU'RE RIGHT ITS CALLED COMMON SENCE .. GO BACK TO THE PHYSICAL KEY.....GET RID OF THIS PUSH BUTTON START
That’s why I have a tracker, the min I find my car is stolen, I’m coming for u.
Dont go to jail when you find them LOL
@@GlobalCorpIncorporated what do you mean?
because if you do anything physical to even stop the thief your going to jail too, besides you following your car out of country ? @@jeffgroves4533
A guy tried this recently, and the police said they couldn't do anything while the car was sitting in the railyard. The railyard police in Canada is corrupt and has their own jurisdiction.
The guy that had the tag in his car watched as his car sat, and then ended up in like Dubai or something crazy.
all the tracker is gonna do is show you the journey across the atlantic. its at the ports and mid ocean by the time you find out.
Mr. Bean's sturdy hasp and padlock on the door is looking better all the time.
I’m so glad I have a rusted up beater. Don’t have to worry about it being stolen because nobody would want it 🤣
That's the way to do it. Car costs more to ship overseas then its actually worth.
I drive a 1994 escort wagon, it looks like hell
Man wish we had our old beater regret giving it back 😭
Avoid buying the top five most stolen makes in Canada: Acura/Honda, Lexus/Toyota, Jeep/Dodge, Land Rover and Ford. Next, use a steering wheel club lock. And if you can, stick to older vehicles with physical, metal ignition keys - you can still get nice VWs, Nissan, Subarus, GM and others from 2018 or so thus equipped. This will decrease the odds of your car being stolen. Bonus points if you drive a manual transmission. For example, no one in Africa wants your 2017 Mitsubishi RVR with 2wd and manual shift.
I've had 3 Subaru. Never had mine stolen since I got it.
We need those steering wheel locks from the 2000s again.
they just cut the steering wheel and remove the lock...
These locks? th-cam.com/video/goJ9nsrt6Sw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1jXnGQa0DK4PLuDp&t=165
In the 1990s I had an ignition immobilizer in the form of a keypad. Punch in a code before starting the car.
Actually whatever slows them down, they move to the next car most of the time@@MuiKaHo
My last car was stolen twice, and not again, once I got a $50 'The Club'. It's not elegant, and I hear people complain that it's ineffective, but I see it as one more hassle that the next guy isn't using. And I keep my passenger compartment visibly empty, as recommended by cops, the last time I literally--cautiously, letting them go, because I'm not going to get whacked for a Honda--confronted thieves attempting to steal it (pre-Club).
They all thought I was cheap to not replace my dying battery and constantly use my portable booster everytime I wanted to use it...if only my car was worth stealing...
My 1979 standard Monte Carlo never stolen. Broken into 3 times couldn't figure out the shifting lol.
"Car makers are working on it". Are they?
First, it costs them a lot of money to develop new anti-theft systems (not worth it for them). Second, if the stolen car is a lease or a finance, which it almost always is going to be, since it has full coverage, the car manufacturer gets paid out by the insurance company and the owner ends up buying another new vehicle. Win-win for the car manufacturer.
People would definitely buy new cars with better anti-theft systems over ones without though, especially now
Sounds very true, now they will spend years developing it like they've done already, some savvy kid will come by and out smart them. Meanwhile there are x number of cars up to this date still out there.
"not worth it for them"
Which is precisely why it should be mandated then. Government absolutely has the ability to impose regulations which would slow thefts significantly by enforcing manufacturers to secure vehicles far better than they are right now. Its failure and passing the buck from top to bottom - big shocker.
In many cases they are required to continue the lease in another vehicle. See the Toronto man who had 3 Lexus RX350's stolen and Lexus wouldn't let him out of his lease. Sold the same guy 3 cars and all he wanted was to borrow 1.
its a racket
Excellent story, it was very informative, I would like to have watched a follow up video on how to prevent such thefts.
I love Market Place DIY videos
I was an installer for under the MPIC immobilizer program for 6 years. Honestly the more tech you add, the easier it is. I have a 72 Mustang with some anitheft stuff I added and Honestly would say it works better lol. I've jhad the car since I was 16 and I'm 50 now. I know how to bypass lots of stuff, i don't tell people how, but here's what these people don't tell you. The idea of theft deterrents is to deter and add time needed to take the item, not to make it impossible to steal. Ask the manufacturer or the trainer's. When I took my course, they all said it was to make it more difficult, but not to say impossible and hopefully the thieves move on to an easier target, so that would be the next car, now is that car your car, probably lol. Thieves are opportunist and look for the easiest score. Don't leave anything in your vehicle.
Lock them up because because when behind bars they don't steal. On the other hand car manufacturers could revert back to the keys
You kidding? The liberals caused this situation by letting these crooks out the same day....
Hot-wiring has been a thing for decades. A pro can go in empty-handed and be gone with the car in under a minute.
@@CarFreeSegnitz will still need lock picking tools for the steering wheel. With the keyless amateurs have it easy
A base model sub compact with a manual transmission is a good deterrent. Even the theif can drive manual, it's not worth stealing, even when it's new. But you can't get those anymore either.
People don't seem to realize that it was impossible to steal the cars from 15-20 years ago.
All of the new "technology" put into cars was done simply to revive the auto theft industry and keep police employed.
Auto theft ended in the early 2000's and now it's back again..... because the government needed to have it back again.
Thank You for the Tutorial! 😍
1. No need to go to LA for a tutorial. Y'all should have came to South Shore Montreal or Brampton.
2. Honda CRVs are the top stolen cars in Canada right now. People keep buying them. Honda isn't doing much to stop this (>2023 have patched this).
3. Push to Start SUVs are the easiest. A TAG sticker is an easy deterrent. So is an age of >10 years and a manual transmission.
4. The risk/reward ratio is favourable, as the cops target law abiding citizens who do 120 kmh instead of 119, gamble with the parking signs, and forget their doors unlocked. The penalties aren't severe enough for theives who usually a) One Picks the Lock and leaves the car unlocked b) Another comes and plugs in the OBDII port a tablet running a legitimate entreprise account c) another steals the plate of a matching car d) the car is used for crime jobs where the actual owner is held liable (like that Mall Drive) e) after the crime, the car gets burned, or stripped for parts f) A Quebec car arrives in Nigeria.
We need the police to start doing their job again!
Manufacturers should give owners the ability to turn doors and hatches into a manual mode where you have to put something in the door to open it. Ya know...like a key?!!!
If they can't ship out, it's useless to steal... The question is, why it's such easy to ship so many cars out of the Montreal.... Border service can easily scan those container and question that...
End to end organized crime IMO. Insiders at the ports. CBSA's incompotence doesn't help. They're the same foolish government department that brought us ArriveScam. If they run the port as well as they ran that project, then no wonder there is an express lane for stolen vehicles at the port of Montreal.
@@jptrainor So what I'm hearing after reading your comment is basically, blame the federal government. I concur.
@@TeaBurn CBSA is a disaster, that's for sure. And they run the ports. So yes.
So glad I have a old school turn key car
I remember when cars required these things called keys to open and start them
And it was just as easy to break in.
uh, back then it was just as bad. thieves adapt.
@@blikpils so why there is more now ? we now just have more bad people ? :p
@@blikpils Yes easy to break in, but much harder to start. It is well know that cars with a mechanical key combined with an immobilizer (pretty much every cars without keyless option that are still running on the roads) are the hardest to steal.
Journeymen mechanic here, the old cars you can literally steal, with a good thief, in less than 2 minites. The key simply moved a geared rail with contacts that will operate all power functions on your ignition, there were some models starting from the 90s to the 2000s that had a specific resistor figure that had to be seen, key pass, so even though the ignition lock would turn, the immobilizer would not allow the car to start.
Funny thing is, if car manufacturers wanted, they could make cars alot harder to steal. It's easy money for them every time a car gets stolen it gets replaced
Security costs $. Those costs get passed on to the consumer already paying inflated prices.
@@johnbrooks4965 You know what else cost $ paying higher insurance, the only winner is the manufacturer.
I dont think so -- I wont by another car that is being targeted again over and over - I will look at another brand. So its in their interest to add more deterents to not lose customers.
Cheers
Or we could just keep car thieves in jail for a decade or so and stop releasing them.
@@shawngordon4960 that's a really good idea
Carmakers could stop this instantly, but they won't because they're the ones making billions of dollars off of all these cars that have to be sold to replace the stolen ones. What a great idea for the car company.
If you buy a car and it get's stolen repeatedy, are you going to buy another one? Probably not. If insurance rates on a car go up obscenely because that car is always getting stolen, is that going to make that a desirable car to buy? Probably not.
Does it make sense for automakers to make their cars easy to steal in order to get more people buying them? Probably not.
The problem isn't the cars or the manufacturers. It's the people stealing the cars.
So why are there no inspections of these containers??? How could customs not notice vehicles with Ontario plates going overseas?? Something tells me this could be an inside job. 🤔
Of course it's an inside job. It's for the same reason that Service Ontario employees were caught giving out illegal services or how Iranian oligarchs and Libyan war criminals get Canadian citizenship under dubious circumstances.
I still remember my dad removing some part from the engine when our car was going to be left alone for a while. Good luck with thieves trying to start it. 😄
I still do that with my 2021 truck. It can still be done if you know what to pull out.
Thank you for showing us how to do it... now to go on the web and find the equipment...
Auto manufacturers should take greater responsibility in making cars theft proof. Club installed (key side down) may be a cheap deterrent.
Why do we need a key fob? Why don't we go back to a KEY that one uses to open & close the door & that starts the F'n car? What am I missing here?
Pop a fuse for ignition or fuel pump and take it with you
Thank you Justin.
simple solutions de-pin the 2 can bus wires running to the OBD port and run a hidden gas pedal disconnect switch! You can even buy programs to disable your remote unlock feature.
Well thanks for letting everyone know.
How about an update on this story.
Love cbc Marketplace.
Im a developer and i can easy make type of signal that can not be hacked/recorded with usecase, some old cars have old methods to sending signals between car and keys thats why they can be hacked, but nowdays we can make it more secure
We need stronger laws. You steal a car 3 years in prison. (Even under age) You steal another… 6. Another …. 12. You break into a home or use a gun or knife…. Much more time.
I think car makers have to make detachable micro chip to disable car functions, all electronic & motor functions.
Real smart !!! Now you’ve just shown thieves how to steal a car 😂‼️😡even provided info on where to get merchandise!!!! 🤬😡😂hilarious ❗️❗️❗️
I assume most newer vehicles' locker systems are similar, why car thefts are soaring in Canada recently?
Luckily I have an electric car. Less stolen 😪
The two main thing people need to do is:
a) Start hitting the unlock button (not trust the keyless system), and make sure to look to the car's flashers to confirm it was actually locked; and
b) Foil a shoe box with aluminum foil, both on the inside and out, and place your car's key fob inside that shoe box whenever you arrive home, in order for the RF (Radio Frequency) signal to not propagate, and be expanded by criminals, in order to fly off with your car from your driveway.
Please, be more careful.
This way, we all can (a) be safer and less stressed, and (b) bring the insurance premiums down to everyone.
The locksmith requires access to the car's OBD2 port to reprogram the PATS. Therefore, you need to break in the vehicle to access & have a key fob. Plus it doesn't take 5 secs to reprogram via the scan tool. The first hacker is more potent as it can code grab and replicate however you need to press the key fob to activate
I park my 2004 accord with a manual transmission in my driveway and leave the doors unlocked so nobody smashes a window to look for goods. Moved about 8 years ago and can't keep it in the garage and it's been fine. I live in a rural area so less people around which helps a lot.
Marketplace is one of the best
well said Bernie much love and respect
I'm just grateful they showed me how to steal cars
Nigeria and Ghana are ultimate destination and Dubai is new destination for all those stolen cars.
I've got a 1990 Mitsub. wagon. Never lock it. Had it 17 years, come July. Never broken down. Have done serious travelling in Oz, from Cairns to Hobart.
Can do 140 ks with a full load on board for passing. Cruises at 110ks no dramas; like it's not even trying @ 2000 rpm. Still get the same economy I did in '07. 12 lts per 100ks around town. 9.5 on a trip.
Wait for this: the head has never been off since I've owned it. Doesn't blow smoke. Uses about 200mls of oil every two or three months. Not an oil leak to be seen.
Keep your new 'jelly bean' cars; I'm not the slightest bit interested!
Paid $400 for it. $7K in maintainence in 17 years.
Go figure?!
Not only is it easy, but you don't even get punished in Trudeau's Canada. We are focusing on making cars harder to break into instead of correcting the actual criminal behaviour. You know, to actually deter them.
Motor vehicle theft is similar to theft over $5,000 in that it carries with it a similar penalty. Someone who steals a motor vehicle, is guilty of an indictable offence and is liable to a maximum of 10 years imprisonment.
How do they even get out of the port?
the port (OBD2 reader) is easily accessible from under the wheel. its supposed to be easy to access for many reasons so its never blocked off
There should be class action suits agains Automakers. May be Insurance providers too. Its good business for automakers as victims will have to purchase another car. Insurance providers increase premiums to maintain profits. Consumers are the ones who lose big time as the 1-2 year old car has depreciated.
5 years minimum for stealing a car, 10 years for car jacking. 1 year additional per car, (if you are the brains of the activity you get 5+ number of cars). If car thefts are reduced, automanufacturers and Insurance Providers should foot the bill for prisons.
Parked behind 6 ft fence, 2 German shepherds roaming the yard, motion lights and cameras, GPS and a sketchy gun owner...
Come and get it!
thanks
around here its usually highschoolers that take a car for a joy ride then leave it somewhere not too far away and the owner gets it back a few days later. I think the lower barrier to entry actually made it so the cars wind up returned in better condition. When my neighbor's kia got stolen the police told him "its because its a kia." and it was found a mile away a few days later. Now near the city generic white cargo vans get stolen and they do not return, but the rudimentary models they target usually have roll up windows
There needs to be a way to sync your car to your phone allowing you to put your car in "sleep mode" which means if the car is turned on, or detected to be in motion, your phone gets alerted and you can have the option to shut it down.. or if the car goes out of range of your cell phone during this setting being on, it shuts down automatically. Could also get phone alerts if your car door is opened, etc. I'm sure this technology could exist after seeing all this other technology.. it seems like such an easy solution.
Terrible for owners of the types of cars frequently stolen. My car is not one of those types.
A hidden battery to starter cutoff switch that would take a thief too long to find is the answer. No juice no go.
Retired police officer here... The auto industry can easily prevent car theft but have absolutely no incentive to do so. Every car stolen and wrecked or shipped off shore is another car that will be purchased to replace it. Win-win for the automotive sector and that's the way it is. It's not right but that's the way it is. Legislation to force the auto industry to prevent theft is a possible solution.
why that policemen could not get stolen car from that container? It is ongoing crime.
Time to go back to the old key in the ignition fail safe. Throw in a couple of strategically placed battery cut off switches for good measure.
This video is almost 5 years old lmao
GMC Vats keys were the most secure, and those came out in the 90s.
Sami is an absolute legend
I drive old cars that run just fine but aren’t worth stealing to ship around the world, and I keep an AirTag in each of them with the speaker disabled so I’ve got a good chance of recovery if one does go missing
This is such a HUGE fn dangerous crime. It must be stopped NOW. NO more delays
sammys clips is ooold
Without a doubt in my mind it's the foreign managers of the dealerships who are doing this they take the cars right from customer addresses.
With automotive theft rising like this, these automakers should start putting vastly more resources into theft prevention, and lay off bells and whistles that consumers are not necessarily asking for... 😬
Makes me glad Tesla have pin to drive until they figure out how to bypass that.
Good. People need to walk. Cars are unaliving (youtube newspeak) Canadians and Health Canada refuses to acknowledge it or label motor vehicles appropriately.
pin or biometric to start (or 2FA on your phone if you are in a real sketchy area)
Excellent thread. I have a headache. I'm getting horse
I make sure my Uniformed and Armed driver always stays with my Bentley, when I go do my weekly shop at Target.
For other journeys , I take my 5 year old Tesla - because thieves know it probably only has 10 miles battery range on it.
I always thought that the immobiliser could be deleted by plugging in the diagnostics.
If your car is stolen, you need to get a new one. So why would the manufacturers be interested in reducing thefts when it boosts their sales? No idea - but maybe that explains why the "issue" has not been solved yet.
This is an old report. But Samy Kamkar is the GOAT
Sure, just demonstrate how easy it is to commit grand theft auto, nice work CBC.
Pull the fuel pump relay fuse out of the fuse box under the hood. Bring it inside. Problem solved for driveaway theft.
Do something now!!! This is crazy!! Stiffer penalties!!!
Flipper zero dose it all without this dude
I notice the more this makes the news the more cars get stolen.
because Liberals do nothing to stop it, and thiefts get no sentences or not much for that crime. , because Liberal release them or let them make their time at home, where they just cross the door and still can steal cars and come back home lol .....funny isnt ? no ,... Liberals are so much inclusive they even include Criminals
the only way to stop this is to work with other countries... telling them any car ship to those countries should be verify by those port for any possible stolen cars.. another way is to set up a base in those countries then get every vehicle ship down there with their Vn for any possible stolen cars... best advice. lastly anyone buying vehicle from any dealers in those countries has to verify history about the car before buying and when you are registering any vehicle at the motor vehicle the agency has to verify the car for possible stolen before issuing plate.. trust me thats another way of creating employment in those countries...
Its almost to a point that the automakers are in on it. The more cars that are stolen, the more they can sell.
What is wrong with a good old manual key? Sure unlock the far with a fob but just have one of those lip out keys built into the fob. I see little to no benefit of a push to start.
This why I leave my doors & trunk unlocked and windows down at the at the mall.
That was the advice I got when I parked in an underground parkade in Vancouver. Windows down, doors unlocked, glove compartment open and empty, not even loose change in the cup holder. “Go ahead, look around, nothing to steal”.
Car thefts have soared in the past year, as have auto manufacturer's profits. I wonder if there is a connection?
Install an ignition disable. So easy to do.
if you drive an old truck no one wants to steal that your basically invisible on the road. no one would care or give you a second glace ever. that is the best deterrent.
People (every insurance policy holders) pay for stolen cars via insurance. When insurance companies have more revenue government makes more tax money. When a vehicle is stolen another car is purchased, again tax is collected. Another car sold for the auto makers. No incentives for them to do anything. We are paying and crying.
You can just look up images of the arrests for vehicle theft in Peel Region where auto theft is the highest and find a clear pattern.
After looking at videos like this, I have no plans to buy new. My car is 12 years old and still runs great. Auto makers needs to do something about this. Otherwise, more vehicles will be stolen and shipped overseas.
I used to hear of guys who would pay someone to steal their car for the insurance money.
Today it is the opposite. I want MY CAR I don't want the money ( you will never get the same vehicle you have right now) Never.
God forbid you hurt anyone who is actually stealing your vehicle. YOU will be going to jail/ and probably get no bail
And get beaten up while you are in jail.
Everything today in Justin's world is upside down.
There is a reason for that. But not today/ not here.
This car stealing is getting very bad specially in Toronto area, i think some of it is scam and somehow done by the owners of the cars, to get money from insurance companies, what government should do is way bigger punishment for the thieves, not only they have to go to jail , also pay big fine money after their time.
Another way to deal with this is car makers make a code( starting, or entering to car code) that is very complicated for them to find out, the driver finger print, eye or touch contact, or something( is build in the car , but the driver set it up, after buying the car) , no car can be sale without have such a thing!
You also need to have better control on shipping places, in Canada they are three major ports that they ship the cars out, Montreal, Vancouver, Halifax,( i say Montreal could be the top one, it is near Toronto) put more control there, that's where the cars ship to outside of Canada .
When there are no penalties, crime skyrockets.
Perhaps we need to go back to using regular keys.
We needed to bring back some Old Fashion Key Operated Door Opening / Locking / Engine Start / Off Mechanism to combat the easily fooled Electronic Lock / Ignition Systems we have nowadays to combat AI Powered car thieves! Old Fashion Steering-Wheel Locks can slow down car thieves! 🕯🌍
I am liking my manual transmission car with a key more than ever now.
Reinstate the chipped immobilizer keys as the original standard for 2 factor authentication for cars. Mandate it
That last car was stolen on my 20th birthday!