The fact that Reinhardt's charge can be hooked and interrupted in many ways, but not Mauga's is embarrassing. The fully-armored, jet-propelled charge < half-naked running dude.
@@yaketsukuzu6478 He doesn't need his shield to be overpowered though. If you ask any Rein player what they find fun about the character, they will tell you it's when he swings his hammer.
If ramattra and mauga were released in overwatch they would be a nightmare combo in low ranks because mauga's ult+ ramattra ult= team wipe if all 6 enemy players are trapped with ram and mauga
I think you’re forgetting Mauga Zarya. Zarya can cleanse Mauga and she can also immediately regen her shield health with his Cardiac Overdrive. And they both compensate each others weakness. Zarya destroys characters weak against beam and Mauga against characters who give Zarya a hard time.
As a person who primarily plays rein, seeing nearly every other hero out preform him sucks to be the rein, cause no matter what you do you never win unless the enemy team is literally afk and then you might have a chance of winning and with mauga it makes this worse cause he tickles mauga cause of the lifesteal
Rein’s shield does stop mauga’s lifesteal, so if Rein is shielding a bastion mauga is screwed and must dip or die; no tank alone can really take on mauga
I got 21 hours on mauga so far with a 70%wr and a rein is genuinely one of the harder tanks to deal with. Mauga cannot counter pin on reaction(mauga’s wind up unlike rein’s can be charged), is a walking fridge and is gonna be moving at 3.5m/s strafing so basically impossible to not land the charge whenever you want and because rein’s faster then you it’s extremely easy to angle for a cliff or into your team. If mauga does actually counter pin he’s gonna go flying past into the enemy team before he can cancel. It’s impossible to miss a fire strike on him. Mauga’s 180dps on shield takes almost 8 seconds of nonstop shooting to break solo. If rein waits till he’s on fire to block and actually recharges shield sometimes shield should never break and mauga will never self heal and rein can completely shut out cardiac. Mauga has very little counter play to shatter. He can’t really jiggle peak and only overdrive predicting it can avoid it
mauga should have shots to burn decreased, dual wield spread decreased and damage majorly decreased, so hes no longer so absurdly strong against tanks and his passives more consistent against squishies. i think.
Unfortunately I thought hog won the mauga matchup, but after playing several games myself, it clearly isn't. Only when my team help me take out support then I can deal with him
@@davidnewhart2533yeah. Sigma honestly counters Mauga pretty good if played well. Zarya doesn't counter necessarily but she can also deal with him if played well. Dva depends if you have a good team to help you lol, cuz yeah u can defense matrix but if no one is helping then once matrix is out ur dead
yeah but once your cooldowns are gone the enemy DPS, who has definitely gone bastion, just shreds the shit out of you because you're all out of dick @@hooni2212
@@Alfred-hs9olok, but then why u playing rein on those maps. He’s much better in close corners maps like kings row. In maps with high ground ur much better off with dive or sig.
I had a lot of succes with Reinhardt vs Mauga but it is super tedious. You can only peak him with shield and have to rely on your team to shoot him, you might do almost no damage but you win by having 4 times his mitigation.
Since Rein is easy to play (but hard to master) Blizzard seems to use him to develop counter tanks. If you look at the new tanks (despite Junkerqueen) they're all built to destroy Rein. For example, the Orisa rework is clearly an archetype of a Rein counter. It's weird because you dont see this for Dva, Zarya or Sigma. OW2 is tought for classical maintank players...
The point of the video is to show Reinhardt can't do anything against Mauga and he really can't. I've also played Mauga against a few reins and they couldn't do anything
Im a hog main too but mauga is just so much fun. The fact that we finally have a tank that can deal with pharamercy no problem is so nice. just burn the two moths out of the sky lol
wait you said reaper is good against him? I never died to a reaper so far, I only kill them even when they are in my face. Maybe it's just a plat reaper problem.
Despite how easily Mauga can shred through shields akin to Bastion, bear in mind that he has to hit PLAYERS to trigger the life-steal from Cardiac Overdrive. Timing it correctly is paramount to winning key teamfights.
No. An unstoppable insta kill move is too strong. Mauga’s charge needs to be nerfed so it operates like every other charge move that collides where both get knocked down. Mauga is over buffed in that regard because Blizzard wants his debut strong.
@@GreenBro11I disagree that Mauga's charge needs to work like a normal charge. Because it's not like it's actually that strong to use in combat, it's not like a Reinhardt pin who will deal 240 dmg easily or a doomfist punch who will stun a full team. It's a pretty mediocre engagement tool already to the point good Maugas use it as a disengage tool. And it helps him disengage without getting shit on by characters like Ana.
@@hooni2212 He doesn't deserve an unstoppable peel/retreat ability. Can't duel Mauga so you go for his backline, he can peel and stun you. If you somehow get a competent Mauga crit, he can barrel away with high mitigation and can't be stopped.
@@skarloeythomas5172 he doesn't have a shield or anything to protect himself. The only thing he does have is the lifesteal ability which gets countered by things like Sigma, Zarya to deny him to gaining HP. And ofc, one Ana nade makes him die in a second because he doesn't have anything else. His unstoppable charge is the only thing he will have to be able to survive against those matchups, if he didn't had that then Ana would be even more oppressive against him.
I haven't played overwatch in over a year, and holy crap rein's kit just feel so dated. His stupid flame thing that travels slow as hell, and his charge that is basically suicide for him. Ppl say he's supposed to good at low ranks, well when i played he was literally trash lol. Reinhardt was just there to die. Now seeing this, it's like why is he even there? I don't care cuz i don't play anymore, but he's so bad i actually felt the need to comment.
And like why all the last tanks have like some of reinhardt kit? Like ram is a better version of rein meelee, and mauga pin is a way better version of rein pin. Why instead of making all this new tanks with reins abilities, you just buff those in reinhardt!!!!
Mauga does not counter rein nearly as much as hog counters him... i would even say that rammatra is a better rein counter than mauga... (just because of shield right click spam)
if reaper gets trapped then he can blossom. and since he moves alot when he ullts even tho hes trapped he may be hard to kill him and hey cyx last stream on yt i said reapers thick thighs destroy lives as a reference to one of your old ow1 vids. have a good day :)
@@ramenemu_4376 as a tank main I hard disagree. Mauga imo is the most fun tank they released so far, he can shit on Orisa which I LOVE. Not more brain dead Orisa players to annoy anyone. And being able to mow down players at close range feels awesome. Not to mention he has one of the best tank ults in the game right now, it feels like an ultimate.
@@hooni2212 And you can't be out-duelled, even with ultimates, unless you buy the battle pass and mirror him, making him boring. He has the best tank ult and damage potential against all other tanks. Boring.
@@skarloeythomas5172 that is so not true. Sigma can deal with Mauga quite easily. What is he gonna do? Shoot at your shield? Your vortex? You can just eat all of his damage and at that point he can't do anything else but run away. And running away doesn't win you games.
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The fact that Reinhardt's charge can be hooked and interrupted in many ways, but not Mauga's is embarrassing. The fully-armored, jet-propelled charge < half-naked running dude.
Yeahh Rein is way too nerfed
And Blizzard just said they think Rein is in a good place.
I truly don't understand how they think this.
Because he’s good in lower ranks
Which says it all they want him to be a low rank tank
@@mr.wilson1301 rein being busted in higher ranks would not be fun, you’d be shooting a shield 80% of the game.
@@yaketsukuzu6478
He doesn't need his shield to be overpowered though. If you ask any Rein player what they find fun about the character, they will tell you it's when he swings his hammer.
Nobody at Blizzard actually plays this game. That's how.
Every tank is reinhardts nightmare
Ehh not really
Every tank except like, Zarya, but that's only if you know how to deal with her.
@@tau-5794 ehh Junker queen can struggle
Every character is reinhardts worst nightmare
orisa, bastion, pharah, zen, mercy is cancer to deal with
If ramattra and mauga were released in overwatch they would be a nightmare combo in low ranks because mauga's ult+ ramattra ult= team wipe if all 6 enemy players are trapped with ram and mauga
Overwatch has been 5v5 for like more than a year
no need to state the obvious smartass@@rickytheraccoon6102
@@rickytheraccoon6102He’s talking about when overwatch was a 6 versus 6 game.
@@rickytheraccoon6102bud he’s talking about if they released in ow1
I think you’re forgetting Mauga Zarya. Zarya can cleanse Mauga and she can also immediately regen her shield health with his Cardiac Overdrive. And they both compensate each others weakness. Zarya destroys characters weak against beam and Mauga against characters who give Zarya a hard time.
Lovely how mauga just needs to hold both clicks to delete any tank in the game
I love how mauga pin gets the buff every rein mains wanted for rein pin for the last year😁
Remember when Brig was released in her horribly op state, this feels similar.
Nah, she could 1v6 a whole team with rally back then. Mauga tries to 1v5 and he just melts and explodes.
No, just no
This isn't even remotely as strong
Poor Rein. Bullied by Hamster Monkey Horsy Hog Ram Dva Mauga. The only tanks he might be good against are Zarya and the mad scientist.
As a person who primarily plays rein, seeing nearly every other hero out preform him sucks to be the rein, cause no matter what you do you never win unless the enemy team is literally afk and then you might have a chance of winning and with mauga it makes this worse cause he tickles mauga cause of the lifesteal
Rein’s shield does stop mauga’s lifesteal, so if Rein is shielding a bastion mauga is screwed and must dip or die; no tank alone can really take on mauga
I got 21 hours on mauga so far with a 70%wr and a rein is genuinely one of the harder tanks to deal with.
Mauga cannot counter pin on reaction(mauga’s wind up unlike rein’s can be charged), is a walking fridge and is gonna be moving at 3.5m/s strafing so basically impossible to not land the charge whenever you want and because rein’s faster then you it’s extremely easy to angle for a cliff or into your team. If mauga does actually counter pin he’s gonna go flying past into the enemy team before he can cancel.
It’s impossible to miss a fire strike on him.
Mauga’s 180dps on shield takes almost 8 seconds of nonstop shooting to break solo. If rein waits till he’s on fire to block and actually recharges shield sometimes shield should never break and mauga will never self heal and rein can completely shut out cardiac.
Mauga has very little counter play to shatter. He can’t really jiggle peak and only overdrive predicting it can avoid it
You need to get a life if you have 21 hours when he came out not too long ago plus other characters that you’ve been playing besides him
@@mrsalty8050 get off work hop on mauga
Mauga doesn’t need armor
He has the hitbox the size of a house, him having armor is fine.
dude has armor on his body you twit
mauga should have shots to burn decreased, dual wield spread decreased and damage majorly decreased, so hes no longer so absurdly strong against tanks and his passives more consistent against squishies. i think.
Unfortunately I thought hog won the mauga matchup, but after playing several games myself, it clearly isn't. Only when my team help me take out support then I can deal with him
Guy don’t you think maui is a bit too strong ?
Maybe cuz i main hog
Oh brother, Hog can't do a thing to Mauga. @@aldahry4573
They made a counter for rein when he isn't the problem 😂Comp is now my safe space 😢 not for long tho
A counter for orisa too, so… big W the horse is getting wrecked
Mauga counters every tank except Sigma and maybe DVA and Zarya.
@@davidnewhart2533yeah. Sigma honestly counters Mauga pretty good if played well. Zarya doesn't counter necessarily but she can also deal with him if played well.
Dva depends if you have a good team to help you lol, cuz yeah u can defense matrix but if no one is helping then once matrix is out ur dead
yeah but once your cooldowns are gone the enemy DPS, who has definitely gone bastion, just shreds the shit out of you because you're all out of dick @@hooni2212
Is there a tank that don't bully Reinhardt?
Zarya, DVA, Junker Queen, and Winston
@@davidnewhart2533i take everything but Dva, she hard bullies reinhardt in maps like dorado/paraiso/gibraltar etc
@@Alfred-hs9olok, but then why u playing rein on those maps. He’s much better in close corners maps like kings row. In maps with high ground ur much better off with dive or sig.
@@davidnewhart2533not Winston anymore, since his Electric gun pass through shield, and im not so sure for JQ
Reinhardt :)
I had a lot of succes with Reinhardt vs Mauga but it is super tedious. You can only peak him with shield and have to rely on your team to shoot him, you might do almost no damage but you win by having 4 times his mitigation.
Since Rein is easy to play (but hard to master) Blizzard seems to use him to develop counter tanks. If you look at the new tanks (despite Junkerqueen) they're all built to destroy Rein. For example, the Orisa rework is clearly an archetype of a Rein counter. It's weird because you dont see this for Dva, Zarya or Sigma. OW2 is tought for classical maintank players...
this guy just doesn’t die every. you are forced to play ana zen.
Had a rein solo shatter and pin me off the map. Like full on went off with me, mutliple times. Good times 😂
That comment you made in the end about Mauga........the most real thing i've heard!! You got my respect bro for keeping it real!
I feel so powerful but yet so squishy at the same time on Mauga
Who could have predicted a high level player would stomp low level players.....
Is that sarcasm?
@@davidtrueblood1863 Sorry, forgot it's a foreign concept on the internet
Where's the low level players?
The point of the video is to show Reinhardt can't do anything against Mauga and he really can't. I've also played Mauga against a few reins and they couldn't do anything
He's on his main so he's in quickplay with top 500 calibre enemies.
Thoughts on rein getting 100 armor for every 1000dmg blocked?
Really seems like Rienhardt and Junker Queen are terrible against Mauga.
And ball :'( the crit shot in ball mode op
Im a hog main too but mauga is just so much fun. The fact that we finally have a tank that can deal with pharamercy no problem is so nice. just burn the two moths out of the sky lol
Isnt it crazy how they buffed rein going into OW2, but his state in the meta has been worse compared to OW1 post-goats?
wait you said reaper is good against him? I never died to a reaper so far, I only kill them even when they are in my face. Maybe it's just a plat reaper problem.
They should rework him because he doesn't have 1v1 potential against other tanks
As a Reinhardt main, yeah you right. Wish he was good in higher lobbies.
Poor ball and rein 😢
If this new spawn shit wasn't in, a healer would have been alive for you at @9:30 😢
Despite how easily Mauga can shred through shields akin to Bastion, bear in mind that he has to hit PLAYERS to trigger the life-steal from Cardiac Overdrive. Timing it correctly is paramount to winning key teamfights.
I'm not watching this, but I do want to comment: Mauga is every tanks current nightmare lol. He's very overtuned.
blizzard heard mauga wasnt a complete rein counter so they buffed him so he would be
trust
He needs to have his gun OVERHEAT like Orisa
Reinhardt's charge needs to be unstoppable just like Mauga
No. An unstoppable insta kill move is too strong. Mauga’s charge needs to be nerfed so it operates like every other charge move that collides where both get knocked down. Mauga is over buffed in that regard because Blizzard wants his debut strong.
@@GreenBro11I disagree that Mauga's charge needs to work like a normal charge. Because it's not like it's actually that strong to use in combat, it's not like a Reinhardt pin who will deal 240 dmg easily or a doomfist punch who will stun a full team. It's a pretty mediocre engagement tool already to the point good Maugas use it as a disengage tool. And it helps him disengage without getting shit on by characters like Ana.
@@hooni2212 He doesn't deserve an unstoppable peel/retreat ability. Can't duel Mauga so you go for his backline, he can peel and stun you. If you somehow get a competent Mauga crit, he can barrel away with high mitigation and can't be stopped.
@@skarloeythomas5172 he doesn't have a shield or anything to protect himself. The only thing he does have is the lifesteal ability which gets countered by things like Sigma, Zarya to deny him to gaining HP.
And ofc, one Ana nade makes him die in a second because he doesn't have anything else. His unstoppable charge is the only thing he will have to be able to survive against those matchups, if he didn't had that then Ana would be even more oppressive against him.
@@hooni2212 Reinhardt's shield is a total joke
You pretty much have to bait him, shield, and then let your team kill him with a character like Bastion. If your DPS sucks you’re pretty much screwed.
11:12 first appearance of rein in the video
His ultimate is complete BS
rip rein mains
some of us are still around
I didn’t realize it was qp till a couple minutes In
I haven't played overwatch in over a year, and holy crap rein's kit just feel so dated. His stupid flame thing that travels slow as hell, and his charge that is basically suicide for him. Ppl say he's supposed to good at low ranks, well when i played he was literally trash lol. Reinhardt was just there to die. Now seeing this, it's like why is he even there? I don't care cuz i don't play anymore, but he's so bad i actually felt the need to comment.
Just nerf mauga fire rate and no headshot like bastion settle
what???
so he is usless
@@jakiii368 dude you make no sense, why would blizzard just make a new tank useless
Glory days are over all he is a charge pin go off map tank
why don't they just make it one gun at a time. would instantly make him less braindead.
And like why all the last tanks have like some of reinhardt kit? Like ram is a better version of rein meelee, and mauga pin is a way better version of rein pin. Why instead of making all this new tanks with reins abilities, you just buff those in reinhardt!!!!
Mauga does not counter rein nearly as much as hog counters him... i would even say that rammatra is a better rein counter than mauga... (just because of shield right click spam)
I low-key feel reaper needs a lil smthn.
Smoke grenades would be fun.
Could they just make it so Mauga does less damage to barriers maybe
Maybe if rein swings did 300 dmg hed be the second best tank😂
Meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow
This character is boring to play and watch
100% agree. Cyx should pick up doom instead.
mauga need a nerf like asap
What a joke hero
He's like hitscan rein
What? No.
Just buff rein already im sick of the power creep anyway fuck this whole "hes good in lower rank bs" smh lol doesnt make any sense lol
average
Mauga is boring
if reaper gets trapped then he can blossom. and since he moves alot when he ullts even tho hes trapped he may be hard to kill him
and hey cyx last stream on yt i said reapers thick thighs destroy lives as a reference to one of your old ow1 vids. have a good day :)
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jesus christ tank is so boring
As a tank main, disagree >:(
Tank isn't boring, Orissa/Mauga is boring. This is the most boring tank they've ever released.
@@ramenemu_4376 as a tank main I hard disagree.
Mauga imo is the most fun tank they released so far, he can shit on Orisa which I LOVE. Not more brain dead Orisa players to annoy anyone. And being able to mow down players at close range feels awesome.
Not to mention he has one of the best tank ults in the game right now, it feels like an ultimate.
@@hooni2212 And you can't be out-duelled, even with ultimates, unless you buy the battle pass and mirror him, making him boring. He has the best tank ult and damage potential against all other tanks. Boring.
@@skarloeythomas5172 that is so not true. Sigma can deal with Mauga quite easily. What is he gonna do? Shoot at your shield? Your vortex? You can just eat all of his damage and at that point he can't do anything else but run away. And running away doesn't win you games.
good, deserved. hope rein gets put in a worse position every patch
me2, shitty ass hero
Wdym rein meta was pretty good and balanced in ow1
He is the easiest tank to play around, I can't see what hero you play to think that he deserves this
@sebastiancavanaugh1266 this sounds like Unsaltedsalt...
Cardboard 4 player who doesn't know that if you back up you can get out of Reinhardt's hammer range AND shoot him at the same time.
Sombra kinda smacks Mauga also not just Ana and Zen