I think they should let players play-experiment with their points freely like in League of Legends where you ellaborate an specific build for each time before game; something like the strategy pages now so that players vary the use of weapons without actually "losing" damage by trying new weapons
You really should check agility effect for the slashing type damage. Because there are more heavy armor heroes than medium/light armor heroes. So,more points in agility rather than strength seems not a bad idea for classes like poleaxe,glaive (classes with big damage per one hit/ability)
Im playing long sword and I just unlocked attribute points. System recommended me to go str I was like nope I go armor. Cuz obviously those minion hurt a lot and running off alone and trying to be a hero isn't as effective as commanding your troops, those guys shred. So unknowingly I made the right choice in attribute assignment.
I chose to go with heavy armor classes and use long sword and shield as my main and Pole-Axe as my alternate so I can do a strength armor build and call it good.
would you be able to do a Mid tier video soon for people who maybe just got their first 4 star troop and are looking to get into territory wars and said endgame? What are a few troops to aim for to be useful to your house in battle when everyone seems to have iron reapers and wing H calv?
Good point, that might actually make for a good video :) Normally good mid tier TW units will be stuff like imperial spear guard, fire archers/ prefecture archers, imperial pike guard, prefecture heavy cav & to some extent rattan rangers
Do note that as heavy armored user your not forced to play the meta role What I mean by that shortsword as tank for example same for longsword I play shortsword with a full strength build and I'm not using guardsman armour hut still got 1894 slash dmg and if I play the positioning game well I can easily take out opponents with my shield bash skill and centurion battle drill You don't need to meta to have alot if succes 😊 it's alot of fun to!
StoleMyCoconut I play longsword and glaive with a 90% armor and 10% strength layout. Glaive to buff my charging units if I play the attacker role and longsword if I play the shield role. The thing I’m most afraid of is a short-sword full str build. With the defense buff, one could stop my charging units stupidly easy and if I’m longsword, break my shield wall. Once their buff runs out, they can retreat and wait for another charge. It’s terrifying. Extra points for the ones that time their charge with their units, leading from the front.
@@MrCakedo I used to run a build like that but found it very unfun :P I like the shield throw ability (deals quite some damage to) Shield bash high dps and a uhhm hard to hit combo moe or less but you also go forward when using it in the animation which does make it easier to lend The stun goes very well with the ability above here And centurion battle drill which looks fun but ik not sure I am considering the massive aoe stun again but that only if the damage output is higher then battle drill I like to play against heroes 😉but good thing in this game there's so many opinions and many ways to make things viable The classic shortsword build felt quite boring even though I used it for quite a while and this feels much more fluent and interactive :P O by the ways like I have considered picking up longsword as a class you could also do a very good strength build I've seen :P
Very true, you can have a lot of fun trying different builds and i'd always recommend people experiment, was just trying to give the current more meta builds :)
I started as long bow player, but want to be able to play other things, mainly glaive/hammer for now. I went from max agi to 54 str 18 agi (3:1 ratio), this means I'm missing out on 324 piercing damage when playing bow (18*6=108 vs 72*6=432). I'm not sure how much the str helps with the armor penetration, but 324 piercing damage seems like an awful lot. Do you think this is feasible or should just roll a second character? I'd hate to grind the units all over again, in fact i just wont do that.
I think its possible to have a more flexible build as you have, yea you do lose a little damage but a decently crafted bow can make a lot of that back. And ultimately units end up becoming as if not more important than the hero anyway 😀
If I want to be the tankiest hero possible, what should I invest in? Armor or Toughness? Or 50/50 mixed? I play Longsword if that makes any difference?
expedition -> i use longsword ... .but i hardly change my armor set (im musket so use medium armorset for the +100 leadership) .... longsword and their heal is nice vs npc in exp.... thus i have spread my points a bit (but still mostly agil + little str + little arm -> to fill it to even numbers lol)
I maxed out almost every weapon and still using the same points as at the beginning of the game No real point of changing because its not that great of a diffrence. But still i watched the video See you on the battlefield EVO
I'm using spear and I've noticed the skills do more slashing and blunt than the piercing damage parts... I'm wondering if STR is the way to go. I was looking at Jaguar and Hurricanes edge that do some massive slashing damage. The only skills that agi really affects, are the ranged attack and ultimates.
I'd have to double check but assuming assasain has most of its damage type as slashing (if you check the unit skill's you'll be able to see) then i'd put all my points in strength for maximum damage :)
I run straight armor as a duel blade and it’s REALLY fun. I got tired of pole axes 1 buttoning me. So, I went straight armor, they 1 button me and I completely shit on them afterwards.
Mines are spred evenly because at first I thought that there would be a max level for each and every one of the abilities, I didn’t realize that it would only go up to 72
Hi Evo is me again. I am playing with Poleaxe and my attribute points are all like yours except agility 32. Any tips? And btw I sent you a friend request on conquers blade!
I used to play this game a lot. but playing it in steam is very horrible, the game is going too badly and I decided to quit because I couldn't migrate my account to the other server. If anyone knows something to solve the problem I would greatly appreciate it. I play pubg with 90 - 110 fps and conquerors with 35-50 fps
Generally speaking in my opinion AP doesn't play a huige factor on hero damage as most heros AP values already exceed the armor of things they are attacks, hence personally i'd be much more inclinded to put all points into hero damage (strength for slashing / agility for piercing). I wouldn't bother spliting strength and agility to get slashing damage and slashing AP but thats just my personal experience
Agreed. I tried once a 50/50 split between agility and strength build. Damage lacked considerably compared to a straight damage build. The only advantage was that I could use just about any weapon mediocrely.
I think they should let players play-experiment with their points freely like in League of Legends where you ellaborate an specific build for each time before game; something like the strategy pages now so that players vary the use of weapons without actually "losing" damage by trying new weapons
That would be kinda cool I agree :-)
You really should check agility effect for the slashing type damage. Because there are more heavy armor heroes than medium/light armor heroes. So,more points in agility rather than strength seems not a bad idea for classes like poleaxe,glaive (classes with big damage per one hit/ability)
Im playing long sword and I just unlocked attribute points. System recommended me to go str I was like nope I go armor. Cuz obviously those minion hurt a lot and running off alone and trying to be a hero isn't as effective as commanding your troops, those guys shred. So unknowingly I made the right choice in attribute assignment.
Nice job! Full armor certainly makes for a very nice and tanky longsword :)
I chose to go with heavy armor classes and use long sword and shield as my main and Pole-Axe as my alternate so I can do a strength armor build and call it good.
would you be able to do a Mid tier video soon for people who maybe just got their first 4 star troop and are looking to get into territory wars and said endgame? What are a few troops to aim for to be useful to your house in battle when everyone seems to have iron reapers and wing H calv?
Good point, that might actually make for a good video :) Normally good mid tier TW units will be stuff like imperial spear guard, fire archers/ prefecture archers, imperial pike guard, prefecture heavy cav & to some extent rattan rangers
the cb disc made a new channel for guides only, this and your beginners one would be cool there i think
I did see the guide channel, I was just concious about spamming my video links to much
I am pretty new to this game and I use the pole axe, I love the armor your guy has. How did you get it?
It was from the closed beta pre order pack, unfortunately not avaliable anymore :(
@@EvoLozGaming Ah. Well thank you for the response. Hopefully more attire with capes will be added in the future. :)
Do note that as heavy armored user your not forced to play the meta role
What I mean by that shortsword as tank for example same for longsword
I play shortsword with a full strength build and I'm not using guardsman armour hut still got 1894 slash dmg and if I play the positioning game well I can easily take out opponents with my shield bash skill and centurion battle drill
You don't need to meta to have alot if succes 😊 it's alot of fun to!
StoleMyCoconut I play longsword and glaive with a 90% armor and 10% strength layout. Glaive to buff my charging units if I play the attacker role and longsword if I play the shield role. The thing I’m most afraid of is a short-sword full str build. With the defense buff, one could stop my charging units stupidly easy and if I’m longsword, break my shield wall. Once their buff runs out, they can retreat and wait for another charge. It’s terrifying. Extra points for the ones that time their charge with their units, leading from the front.
@@MrCakedo I used to run a build like that but found it very unfun :P I like the shield throw ability (deals quite some damage to)
Shield bash high dps and a uhhm hard to hit combo moe or less but you also go forward when using it in the animation which does make it easier to lend
The stun goes very well with the ability above here
And centurion battle drill which looks fun but ik not sure I am considering the massive aoe stun again but that only if the damage output is higher then battle drill
I like to play against heroes 😉but good thing in this game there's so many opinions and many ways to make things viable
The classic shortsword build felt quite boring even though I used it for quite a while and this feels much more fluent and interactive :P
O by the ways like I have considered picking up longsword as a class you could also do a very good strength build I've seen :P
StoleMyCoconut ah I see. You play as warlord killer. I play as commander, so if you kill my units, I’m considerably weaker haha.
Very true, you can have a lot of fun trying different builds and i'd always recommend people experiment, was just trying to give the current more meta builds :)
@@EvoLozGaming I felt like adding this to the video :D since this can be useful :)
the gear seems to have more of an impact than attributes. plus like you said, this game is mostly about units, not heroes.
Any suggestions stats for glaive hero? And how can agility work on glaives
I started as long bow player, but want to be able to play other things, mainly glaive/hammer for now. I went from max agi to 54 str 18 agi (3:1 ratio), this means I'm missing out on 324 piercing damage when playing bow (18*6=108 vs 72*6=432). I'm not sure how much the str helps with the armor penetration, but 324 piercing damage seems like an awful lot. Do you think this is feasible or should just roll a second character? I'd hate to grind the units all over again, in fact i just wont do that.
I think its possible to have a more flexible build as you have, yea you do lose a little damage but a decently crafted bow can make a lot of that back. And ultimately units end up becoming as if not more important than the hero anyway 😀
If I want to be the tankiest hero possible, what should I invest in? Armor or Toughness? Or 50/50 mixed? I play Longsword if that makes any difference?
what would u recommend for a maul player main? I am thinking a division in Strength and Armor, but idk.
expedition -> i use longsword ... .but i hardly change my armor set (im musket so use medium armorset for the +100 leadership) .... longsword and their heal is nice vs npc in exp.... thus i have spread my points a bit (but still mostly agil + little str + little arm -> to fill it to even numbers lol)
I maxed out almost every weapon and still using the same points as at the beginning of the game
No real point of changing because its not that great of a diffrence.
But still i watched the video
See you on the battlefield EVO
I agree it's not a huge difference I think in the region of 5% benefit, particularly if you changes classes a lot it doesn't matter :)
Im planning to do that, so the spread out build works fine? 20str 20agi and 20 armor?
I'm using spear and I've noticed the skills do more slashing and blunt than the piercing damage parts... I'm wondering if STR is the way to go. I was looking at Jaguar and Hurricanes edge that do some massive slashing damage. The only skills that agi really affects, are the ranged attack and ultimates.
yeah good observation, if I remeber correct then yes many of the spear abilities are slashing in which case strength would be better then agility
@@EvoLozGaming cheers. I've mixed the stats, favoring str. I figured with weapon swapping, the str will help with others
Nah Agi for phocris and stab from horse back,
If you play all classes you do strength and agility 50/50 and armour and toughness 20/20.
as a glaive swinger (heavy armor) do you recommend all in armor then
How can I reset my points and start over?
You need to use a 'personal history' avaliable from the seasonal store with conquest tokens, the smuggler with silver or the cash shop for gold
Wait...how do u have 89 armor and 32 agility, I don't even have that many points
Toughness is the best for longsword?
I have an assassin and Idk what to do, wich attributes i have to? Stregth or agility
I'd have to double check but assuming assasain has most of its damage type as slashing (if you check the unit skill's you'll be able to see) then i'd put all my points in strength for maximum damage :)
I run straight armor as a duel blade and it’s REALLY fun. I got tired of pole axes 1 buttoning me. So, I went straight armor, they 1 button me and I completely shit on them afterwards.
how you can have 89 in armor and 32 in agility ._. if I want to make 89 in armor, i havent more points for other attributes xD
Oh it because my poleaxe got a +agility stat when I crafted it :)
Mines are spred evenly because at first I thought that there would be a max level for each and every one of the abilities, I didn’t realize that it would only go up to 72
you should get a few personal historys from quests you can use to reset you points if you wanted to :)
Hi Evo is me again. I am playing with Poleaxe and my attribute points are all like yours except agility 32. Any tips? And btw I sent you a friend request on conquers blade!
How I choose: Whatever gives my weapon the most damage
But how should i change the attributes points
You can use personal histories to reset attribute points
@@EvoLozGaming Sorry where i buy this "personal histories"? Thx
How is there full 72 points in armor and also more in agility?
I had a weapon that gave me some +points in agility
hmm. how comes you have more than 72 att points.
Because my weapon gives me +15 agility from where I crafted it :)
Can you reset the points?
Yes you'd need to use a 'personal history'
Still worth go armor more than strength?
That's the set up I currently still run in heavy armor. Although strength isnt necessarily bad :)
What skin is that you have on your character?
It's the templar skin, it was from the closed beta pre order packs, unfortunately no longer avaliable :(
Did he pay for all those updates? Cause my character is weak
No everyone gets the same amount of base attribute points to spend
I have the shortsword class, as I should have the attributes
I used to play this game a lot. but playing it in steam is very horrible, the game is going too badly and I decided to quit because I couldn't migrate my account to the other server. If anyone knows something to solve the problem I would greatly appreciate it. I play pubg with 90 - 110 fps and conquerors with 35-50 fps
I've heard of others having frame rate issues, unfortunately not heard of any easy soloution yet :(
You completely forgot armour penetration :( not impressed by this video
Generally speaking in my opinion AP doesn't play a huige factor on hero damage as most heros AP values already exceed the armor of things they are attacks, hence personally i'd be much more inclinded to put all points into hero damage (strength for slashing / agility for piercing). I wouldn't bother spliting strength and agility to get slashing damage and slashing AP but thats just my personal experience
Agreed. I tried once a 50/50 split between agility and strength build.
Damage lacked considerably compared to a straight damage build. The only advantage was that I could use just about any weapon mediocrely.