After goofing with an Ally X at best buy, realized how much I think I would enjoy trackpads. So ultimately I still have no fucking idea which one I want.
Dude I hear you. Seriously. I’ve personally been going through a crisis with all these handhelds. I owned them all. Sold than all, bought some back again. (I know not everyone has money to blow) but somehow I am currently sitting with a Steam Deck OLED and a ROG Ally X. I got the OLED Deck because it’s comfortable hell to hold and that OLED screen is a god send. I got the Ally X because performance, better battery, more RAM. I just go back and forth with them because I want them both to be one device. Ideally, I just want a badass gaming handheld PC with a bigger OLED screen and I can’t have that right now. I’m scattered brain.
I dont like the steam deck joy con so for now the x wins for me. My lovely cousin owns a base steam deck and i got to try it out didnt like it and it felt uncomfortable
@MackDaddyVic lol I'm glad I'm not the only one taking that approach. Bought both Legion and Ally X to put them head to head. I generally gravitate to bigger screens and more bang for buck. But the Ally just feels perfect to hold. I would still love an Oled Deck though.
Depends what you want from the device tbh. Personally I want the power and performance and battery life, I can do all the things i would wanna do easier on the ally x
that, and valve have confirmed that the steam OS is coming to the likes of the Ally and legion go, so is there a point to really buying a steam deck. plus we already have big picture mode.
@@Krilium but does that really matter when you have the limitations of Linux. That’s like saying I’ve got a super car with amazing tires, but I always use 76 octane fuel in it.
Sold my Steam Deck and got the Ally X. Performance is so much better now, not having to butcher the graphics as much anymore, to get higher framerates. Dualboot with Windows and Steam OS is best of both worlds. I just didn't want to stay locked to Steam, and having to mess with games that didn't work properly (or at all) on the Deck. And I love having VRR on this thing.
@@hendrawardihad the oled switch and oled steam deck. No it’s not that noticeable. Ally screen is 1080p so it has better pixel density than Steam deck. And the colors on the Ally is great. Oled and hdr is nice but it’s really just even brighter colors and the blacks are fully black but idk going back and forth between the 2 and it’s not like no super next gen thing. Now if OLED 1080p hdr VRR 120hz 7-8.8 inch screen come out, NOW WE TALKING‼️‼️
@@hendrawardiNo not at all. I own both device and the LCD screen in the Ally X is beautiful. Very crisp resolution and colors. And the 120hz VRR refresh rate is just OD. All your games will look silky smooth running on the device.
I did the same with mines. I’ve installed all my games that run on steam good on the Bazzite partition, and all the games that don’t, and my emulators on the windows partition. Only thing I’m hoping for soon is an Easier way to dual boot into both OS’s. Similar to what I had on the steam deck with a GUI menu. Other that I’m enjoying the hell outta the Ally X. Haven’t even touched my $2500 rig in 3 weeks 😅.
I bought the X on a whim and planned to keep my OLED because its was my first foray into PC gaming. After 2 days the writing was on the wall and I decided to sell my OLED. No regrets. This is now my primary gaming device and laptop, emulation system and "other things" LOL
Hope you had better luck with your ally then I did within a week the a button started sticking a little bit then it started getting stick drift in the left stick then it quit registering left and right inputs and now the right stick has stick drift and I've probably used the thing less then 100 hours bought an oled it'll be here in a few days hopefully it's better
Remember that soon the ALLYX will potentially run steam OS resulting in a more powerful deck. Bazzite works well currently so it’s a nice in between with dual boot.
That is correct and good point to say and soon the steam os will be available to install straight from Steam and as soon as they release everybody will use it especially for the fast wake up mode during gaming
@@Paulo-i9h Dual booting and just having the option? SteamOS is clearly a much better experience for just browsing games. If you need to use Windows you can just setup a separate partition and boot into it
So I started off with a Backbone. Got tired of the lag and having to have my pc on all the time in case I felt like playing at some point. My brother encouraged me to join him as a stream deck owner. The Ally X had just come out, after doing research and finding out that the steam deck wasn't windows based the answer was clear. The main game I play is diablo 4 and though it's on steam now, it wasn't back when I bought it.
You forgot one thing: You can switch to desktop on the Steam Deck and navigating the desktop is LEAGUES better than on the Ally. Those trackpads have haptic feedback depending on what you're doing and using your thumb to move the mouse is arguably easier than using an actual laptop trackpad.
Does it matter when you’re running a limited os tho? You can have the best trackpads in the business but the fact that it runs on Linux kills all the usefulness you just gained. I love my steam deck but it’s just a pain to deal with. Hell modding a game can be a pain sometimes because most of the better mod managers don’t have Linux support.
If you already have a relatively powerful pc, i'd recommend just getting the steam deck oled. You get the better screen but you can also make up for the lag in performance by streaming from your pc with Moonlight
moonlight does have a remote feature but it takes some setup You have to port forward on your pc And a few other things I was basically doing this from my home pc while on the road to a galaxy s24 ultra with a controller grip
@@ElectroLM10 else for easier setup. Just subscrive to a Geforce Now service. You then now don't have to have a really good PC to play games as RTX 4080 performance. You just need a good internet connection for your SD OLED.
The asus is now $500, bought mine for sale for $400 from a buddy, and it really is better than my steamdeck not by a lot, but you do notice a graphical and framerate difference
I hate these kind of videos. It going to vary from user to user. If you use game pass or have a lot of games that won't play on Linux, rog ally x. If all your games are on stream, get the steam deck.
I would also add another category for Ally X - people who have the money to spend and want a more powerful machine. Especially since now there are easy ways to just install steam deck os on the ally x but still be able to boot into windows for those games.
Exactly, I have a pc that cost me almost 3000€ and that can run all aaa games without problems in 4K. Why am I going to spend almost 899€ on an Ally X? A pack with a PS5 and a PS Portal is still cheaper than an Ally X. The price of a Steam Deck is also absurd, but much more reasonable than the price of an Ally. People are spending money on handhelds that are quickly becoming obsolete, which are just slightly improved versions of previous releases and and we are getting closer to the new launches of GPUs(RDNA4) from AMD. Wouldn't it be better to wait for the new generation of handhelds than buy new toys?
As someone with little to no interest in new AAA games or online shooters I got the Deck and I couldn't be happier. Performance in older games and indies is already maxed out with the Deck OLED so more power doesn't matter when you're playing old games or 2D indies. Also you get better screen and more streamlined user interface.
As a steam deck owner. Not all old games run great on the deck. Linux gets in the way. It’s great when the game is 100% verified by steam but when it comes to games that aren’t supported by steam or like most older games aren’t mapped well you need to put a lot of your own work into those games to have them work well on the deck.
Love the Aly X, love that it has the best battery life. No limitations on downloading games. But i just love the feel of the steamdeck. The Aly X feels less comfortable to hold for me.
I personally like playing older gen games or even newer indie games on a handheld. If there’s a new AAA game release I’m most likely gonna go with a console experience. I think for majority of people the Steamdeck OLED is the better choice. Save the 250 bucks
@@TheAlexkokonas call of duty is the biggest selling game ever year and majority of pc gamers play on windows. More people play Fortnite, call of duty, madden, destiny 2, overwatch 2 etc than they do indie games and old 360 games.
Returned the Asus Ally X for the 2nd time. The first Asus Ally X had a bad shoulder button. The 2nd Asus Ally X has alot of issues with armory crate and 3rd party launchers. If I connect my Asus Ally X to my monitor or TV, it doesn't work properly. You require a mouse and/or keyboard. It's very buggy overall. Sometimes I required restarting the system in order to get it to function properly.
@@WarAlex16 Windows is fine on handhelds. It would stand for some better optimization. But really if you treat it like a windows PC, alot of the issues are easy to configure and fix
Until it has trackpads its pointless, at least for me... I play a lot of older games, that only work well on steam deck because of the trackpads. 3ds emulation. Any sims game. RTS games as a whole. And many more older games, if the rog Ally x had oled and trackpads i might generally consider it.
Yeah, the lack of trackpads has prevented me from squeezing the trigger. I'm holding off on buying a handheld for now. With my luck I'll spend $800 on the ROG Ally X & then they'll announce the new ROG Ally 2 with better hardware & trackpads for the same price.
I use the Deck for Sims, the trackpad is GOD TIER! Also it's weird the Ally uses Win11 but the options for mouse movement are a touchscreen or joystick, none of which are intuitive. Desktop navigation on the Steam Deck is SO MUCH BETTER! It's the first handheld desktop device I've had that actually has comfortable, non-annoying mouse movement.
The steam deck OLED he has is the limited edition one. That one sells for 800 plus which is not worth considering the performance compared to the ally x
I bought the Ally X a week and a half ago it was my first handheld pc and yesterday I returned it. It was terrible, armory crate and the command center kept glitching, it was always freezing overall just a terrible experience. I actually ordered the Steam Deck 1TB OLED today which I honestly should’ve done from the beginning
Same, the menus froze a lot, the embedded controller kept swapping inputs, and the games I wanted to play were just unstable, and I got quite a bit of experience. With performance optimization, it never made it there, imo. I contacted support, and it was very quick to get my return. My buddie has a steam deck oled dual boot, and the frametimes are much more stable and don't fluctuate like my rog ally x did.
i haven't tried the ally x, but I did hop straight into the steam deck oled and I've been very happy with it as most of my library ends up being either indie or not very taxing games. the steam verified system could use some work though, maybe community voting
On 2d games or cartoonish games OLED 800p deck is ok but on 3d graphical games you will notice the difference between 800p vs 1080p. Sharper and crisper image will always looks better on demanding high graphical AAA 3d games its not even close. 800p will always look pixelated when comparing side by side with a 1080p which is why I don't know why some people say deck has better screen. Play ratchet and clank rift apart compare them side by side the difference is night and day. ROG ally with that 1080p screen with 120hz and VRR which makes the overall gameplay smooth and that AMD fluid motion is always gonna be better. If you got the money by all means get the ally x.
Yeah it’s weird to me as well. I feel people want to justify why having an inferior device is better. Now don’t get me wrong I still love my OG and OLED steam decks. But in way shape or form are either of them better than the Ally X. Also the fact that everyone says the steam deck just works and there’s no tinkering is full of it. I spent just as much time getting things to work on the deck as within windows. Also trying to explain to friends and family that are not tech savvy about proton was a nightmare. Bottom line is both the steam deck are underpowered. And I understand that was their goal to make a decent enough device that could okay pc games at a cheaper price tag than with Ayaneo and the like of these other Chinese windows pc handhelds were priced at. But once Asus released a device with even better specs than those device at the $700 price tags I knew it was over. Those device had costed over $1200, which was insane.
This was about the best comparison video I’ve ever seen. I have the z1 extreme ally,and bought a 140 w power bank (anker 737) to go with it, so I’ll stay put. Love the ally though.
Hoping to get some advice…. I currently have the SD LCD version and LOVE it, but am looking to upgrade. Should I keep my existing SD and just pick up the ALLY X? Or get the OLED version SD?
I’d either wait for gen 2 devices or just get the SD OLED if you can sell your SD LCD. The Ally X would be a sidegrade - an upgrade in some areas but also a significant downgrade in others. The Deck OLED on the other hand would be an unquestionable upgrade unless your eyes are super sensitive to PWM flicker.
I upgraded from the lcd steam deck to the Lenovo legion go and honestly I don’t think I could go back to that little 7” screen . And the difference in performance is crazy , especially on games with unreal engine 5 the steam deck really struggles to even play them . Perfect example is lords of the fallen 2023 looks like shit and has to be capped at 30 fps on steam deck. But on legion go it looks so good with fsr 3 and frame gen and you can bump it up to 900p or 1000p and still get 40-50 fps.
The Ally X also has VRR and really good speakers but unfortunately there are already numerous reports on QC issues like stuck or squeaky buttons. BTW, Jedi Survivor works just fine on the Deck.
Some misinformation here. The Steam Deck OLED has a different processor from the original. In terms of raw power, it isn't necessarily more powerful, but it is more power efficient, allowing it to run better at low TDPs. And it is kinda unfair to knock points off the Ally for having a Windows desktop when Armory Crate exists. Especially considering the Deck also has a desktop.
If you're a AAA gamer who wants better performance, I recommend the ROG Ally X. But if you want a good handheld PC that costs the price of a PS4, go for the Steam Deck.
This depends on what kind of games you play on your device. If you are mostly on 2d and lite 3d games or emulators like me, steam deck is way better and easier to use. But for modern and heavy games, rog Ally x is better because of better hardware.
I'm pretty much an indie gamer, but as an indie gamer, I sometimes enjoy cheats too, and at the same time some indie games needs to have trackpads. HOWEVER some indie games are available outside of Steam itself?? Holy cow, they both are truly not making this easier for me.
Big questions for me is which ones can i mod Skyrim/Fallout/Starfield with Nexus Mods and Nolvus and also which ones could i use Splashtop Remote desktop? That way, i could possibly just play on my laptop but from the handheld.
I've had the rog ally x and few weeks now in that time I can honestly say the device is amazing but it has its flaws within that few weeks it's blue screened and I've had to reinstall windows to get it functional again. And just yesterday it's developed a squeaky left trigger and its had minimal use
@@airjohnpro yeah me too. But I had Regular ROG Ally, and it was really nice. But I love OLED screen, trackpads, ergonomy of SD OLED. And Valve support is amazing. I had LeGO and it was the worst...Useless, noisy, piece of garbage.
I dont mind windows dont see whats the problem with windows. I have LCD steam deck and I love it. Putting it to sleep in the middle of the game is great. But Id trade it for a stronger device, if only it had 4 buttons and trackpads. It is a deal breaker. I dont know why they dont put at least one track pad and 4 buttons on the back??
Im fortunate enough to have both. The Oled will always be my baby. But oled doesn't matter when the games look blurry because of the hardware. The Ally X shames it on every game ive tried so far. The only problem with the X is I can't figure out how to hibernate/sleep with it on a consistent basis. Any suggestions?
God of War should probably be played on something stronger like the Ally X. It's a graphically demanding game and there's a lot of pretty stuff to look at. I'd imagine SD wouldn't give you the best experience with it.
You're compatibility point is a little silly, if you've actually been using the steam deck you should know there are an incredible number of ways to install things on the Steam deck, and even more recently we've gotten the non-steam game launcher plug-in so you don't even have to do any desktop mode tweaking to get these launchers running. The literal only thing that I haven't been able to get going on Steam deck so far is installing games from game pass.... I can play them on cloud gaming however and I can stream from my Xbox and my PS, and every pc-based launcher out there works perfectly on the steam deck as well as all of the games for them. Compatibility rating for the steam deck on its games is BS, and most "partially compatible" games work perfectly
@@stevehall364 "Incredible number of ways to install things on a steam deck" how can you say that then talk about streaming games in the same sentence?? The steam deck has horrible compatibility so what are you on about
4:31 Why complain about the W11 desktop when even you yourself mention you don't need to use it and there's a specific game launcher? That should not be used as a negative.
One think I want to do is also use the handheld as a mobile computer to do work which would require windows, leaning to the Ally but wondering if dual booting windoows works
Number one problem with this machine(steam deck) is anti cheat system isn't supported on it which stops games like GTA v online working and battlefield 2042 and call of duty modern warfare 3
The base steamdeck experience is fantastic but if your not remotely familiar with Linux its a real pain point, many games require some tinkering or work arounds to run on deck so it will be something most will have to deal with at some point and for the average person thats gonna feel inconvenient and quickly become very annoying
Idk guys, u mean trying to justify a 800$ purchase almost 1000$ is crazy for a handheld but honestly I have a steam deck LCD right now and I’m leaning more towards to steam deck OLED just because of the ease of use, all of the uses when I was on the original rog ally were so bad, paying 600$ for a device that has screen and heating issues especially with the SD card but dam the ROG ally x looks so dam fine and I honestly don’t know guys ?
yep, Ally looks like an lazy way to make a product. Valve created proton, created new OS, designed new device with comfortable usage and keep support all of that, and made it relatively cheap. Asus? Create the launcher app and sold already exist OS with gamepad elements. No optimization, no additional stuff, just nothing at all. And put noticibly higher price tag . Dislike.
@@DrakonR eh no it’s not, it already has bazzite and we don’t wanna install all these extra things man, we are parents and are busy most of the time, we just want it to work no extra steps 👍
What if the game I want to play is not on stream, like honkai star rail or the last of us 2,let say there not on steam app, how can I play them if I can only afford the steam deck oled???
Obviously Steam Deck, you'll appreciate the sleep mode, you can just pause a game and put it to sleep and wake it up later to resume your game (and don't ever install windows on it because it constantly wakes up your steam deck)
That's really cool, but how make it keep downloading the game in a sleep mode if I need to? I need to watch my console and wake it up from time to time, that's painful.
Isnt big screen mode kinda just the steam deck launcher so any complaints about things being hard to navigate atlest on steam should be fairly the same. then the xbox app is easy to navigate with a remote so it should be fine on the rogally
I've had the original steam deck since launch and I found it frustrating with most of the games I do play not working well/at all thanks to the Linux OS.
I'm leaning into the ROG Ally X. I want to be able to access Game Pass & my Xbox library. As well as Steam Library, Emulation & full Windows 11. The extra power, full 1080p screen with 120hz & VRR makes it well worth the extra money. If only it had those damn trackpads though.
I understand the games not working but i also have some older games that crash on my pc and cant be played that i can play ony steam deck fine. My tvs are oled and so isy monitor. Oled is hard to go bacl from. Id love to have ally x internals in a steamdeck OLED lol
I think ROC is using a cruddy display & I don’t know why anyone would praise it. In terms of colors nits brightness saturation however you want to call, it’s dull. The legion go , meanwhile, has the brightest highest saturated most vibrant LED display I’ve ever seen. b/c the display is so meh w/ ROC, I would between these options purchase a Steam OLED & just install windows on it. Neither of these devices would ever top my list tho.
I was playing Forza horizon 5 on my ally x the other day . I was playing at high settings 1080p and was getting 60 plus fps. This was at the 17 watt mode too. Steam deck just doesn't have the performance the ally does.
Steam Deck main aim is not high performance, it's battery life, ease of use (like you can pause a game, put it to sleep and wake it up to play it instantly without having to close & open the game each time). Things that any windows handheld couldn't do because the problem with windows handheld they could be awaken constantly by notifications
@@leewalker23 Ally x gets better battery life. I had both. Also the steam deck is not always easy to use. Some games require workarounds like installing different protons etc.
@@coolmodee never encountered games that require it (hopefully not). Wish windows handheld would fix the issue of the constant wake because of the notifications (other than having to switch off the notifications entirely).
@@paulsegrue5133 I hope you're not dumb enough to realize there're also many other reasons that would awake your windows device. I had similar issue with my laptop and no, it isn't just notifications
The amount of Steam Deck cope in the comments that are trying to justify why it's not bad that the Steam Deck is inferior is genuinely the funniest thing I've seen all day.
Sorry for sounding dumb and lazy, but can someone just give me a tl;dw of this? For context, all of my games are on Steam. I play some good ol' emulation games on my PC too, but tbh I just want something that I can take with me when I'm not at home and play my Steam games on. Sucks when I'm at a hotel or something and can't play PC games lol
Honestly the steam deck OLED works just fine, its very easy to use, its literally steam in console form, once you boot it up, everything is there, your library, your profile, everything. Going into desktop mode is very simple also, its not like windows where it has thousands of apps and programs that you will probably never use and have to go through a painstaking process to try and uninstall clogging up the system. I use emudeck as well which will appear next to your steam library once you have it installed. Thats my opinion anyway.
@@lechistanskiswit320 You can play most games at comparable settings to the Ally X if you stick with native resolutions on both. Keep in mind that while being like 50% faster, the Asus has almost twice as many pixels to push. Besides, the Deck just works. I’m not sure you’ll be able to say the same about the Asus after using it for a couple of weeks or months…
![BEST Gaming Handheld in 2024!? [Steam Deck OLED | Ally X | Legion Go | Claw]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/czoKrKcgHaY/mqdefault.jpg)
After goofing with an Ally X at best buy, realized how much I think I would enjoy trackpads. So ultimately I still have no fucking idea which one I want.
Dude I hear you. Seriously. I’ve personally been going through a crisis with all these handhelds. I owned them all. Sold than all, bought some back again. (I know not everyone has money to blow) but somehow I am currently sitting with a Steam Deck OLED and a ROG Ally X. I got the OLED Deck because it’s comfortable hell to hold and that OLED screen is a god send. I got the Ally X because performance, better battery, more RAM. I just go back and forth with them because I want them both to be one device. Ideally, I just want a badass gaming handheld PC with a bigger OLED screen and I can’t have that right now. I’m scattered brain.
I dont like the steam deck joy con so for now the x wins for me. My lovely cousin owns a base steam deck and i got to try it out didnt like it and it felt uncomfortable
@MackDaddyVic lol I'm glad I'm not the only one taking that approach. Bought both Legion and Ally X to put them head to head. I generally gravitate to bigger screens and more bang for buck. But the Ally just feels perfect to hold. I would still love an Oled Deck though.
@@MackDaddyVic Sounds like you should install Bazzite on your Ally X and you get best of both worlds
Legion go
If the Rog Ally X had track pads and an AMOLED display I would have bought it yesterday.
Depends what you want from the device tbh.
Personally I want the power and performance and battery life, I can do all the things i would wanna do easier on the ally x
yeaah cause with the OG Ally we can argue the batter life while setting performance aside but now Ally X won both category
that, and valve have confirmed that the steam OS is coming to the likes of the Ally and legion go, so is there a point to really buying a steam deck. plus we already have big picture mode.
Except mouse movement on desktop mode. The trackpads on the Steam Deck are elite for navigating the desktop
@@Krilium but does that really matter when you have the limitations of Linux. That’s like saying I’ve got a super car with amazing tires, but I always use 76 octane fuel in it.
Sold my Steam Deck and got the Ally X.
Performance is so much better now, not having to butcher the graphics as much anymore, to get higher framerates. Dualboot with Windows and Steam OS is best of both worlds. I just didn't want to stay locked to Steam, and having to mess with games that didn't work properly (or at all) on the Deck. And I love having VRR on this thing.
how you finding the dual boot on the ally x
Is the lack of oled noticeable
@@hendrawardihad the oled switch and oled steam deck. No it’s not that noticeable. Ally screen is 1080p so it has better pixel density than Steam deck. And the colors on the Ally is great. Oled and hdr is nice but it’s really just even brighter colors and the blacks are fully black but idk going back and forth between the 2 and it’s not like no super next gen thing.
Now if OLED 1080p hdr VRR 120hz 7-8.8 inch screen come out, NOW WE TALKING‼️‼️
@@hendrawardiNo not at all. I own both device and the LCD screen in the Ally X is beautiful. Very crisp resolution and colors. And the 120hz VRR refresh rate is just OD. All your games will look silky smooth running on the device.
I did the same with mines. I’ve installed all my games that run on steam good on the Bazzite partition, and all the games that don’t, and my emulators on the windows partition. Only thing I’m hoping for soon is an Easier way to dual boot into both OS’s. Similar to what I had on the steam deck with a GUI menu. Other that I’m enjoying the hell outta the Ally X. Haven’t even touched my $2500 rig in 3 weeks 😅.
I bought the X on a whim and planned to keep my OLED because its was my first foray into PC gaming. After 2 days the writing was on the wall and I decided to sell my OLED. No regrets. This is now my primary gaming device and laptop, emulation system and "other things" LOL
So you watch porn on it?
Loll , the hub ? 👀
@@SWOTHDRA 😂
wash your hands after
Hope you had better luck with your ally then I did within a week the a button started sticking a little bit then it started getting stick drift in the left stick then it quit registering left and right inputs and now the right stick has stick drift and I've probably used the thing less then 100 hours bought an oled it'll be here in a few days hopefully it's better
Remember that soon the ALLYX will potentially run steam OS resulting in a more powerful deck. Bazzite works well currently so it’s a nice in between with dual boot.
That is correct and good point to say and soon the steam os will be available to install straight from Steam and as soon as they release everybody will use it especially for the fast wake up mode during gaming
Why would you want steam OS? IT limits your ability to play games outside of steam. So many games arent verified or just straight up dont run.
And be limited to the awful Linux compatibility
@@Paulo-i9h Dual booting and just having the option? SteamOS is clearly a much better experience for just browsing games. If you need to use Windows you can just setup a separate partition and boot into it
@@thatnerdgui3496Dual booting not an option for you?
So I started off with a Backbone. Got tired of the lag and having to have my pc on all the time in case I felt like playing at some point. My brother encouraged me to join him as a stream deck owner. The Ally X had just come out, after doing research and finding out that the steam deck wasn't windows based the answer was clear. The main game I play is diablo 4 and though it's on steam now, it wasn't back when I bought it.
Don’t worry it doesn’t really run well of the deck. You’re probably having a better experience.
You forgot one thing: You can switch to desktop on the Steam Deck and navigating the desktop is LEAGUES better than on the Ally. Those trackpads have haptic feedback depending on what you're doing and using your thumb to move the mouse is arguably easier than using an actual laptop trackpad.
Does it matter when you’re running a limited os tho? You can have the best trackpads in the business but the fact that it runs on Linux kills all the usefulness you just gained. I love my steam deck but it’s just a pain to deal with. Hell modding a game can be a pain sometimes because most of the better mod managers don’t have Linux support.
@@IIDEADBIRDII this tbh. Also, typing this from my Ally X 🤣
If you already have a relatively powerful pc, i'd recommend just getting the steam deck oled. You get the better screen but you can also make up for the lag in performance by streaming from your pc with Moonlight
Can you stream your pc to the Steam deck oled with Moonlight away from home?
moonlight does have a remote feature but it takes some setup
You have to port forward on your pc
And a few other things I was basically doing this from my home pc while on the road to a galaxy s24 ultra with a controller grip
@@xUndecidedGaming Nice, thank you for the help appreciate it
@@ElectroLM10 else for easier setup. Just subscrive to a Geforce Now service. You then now don't have to have a really good PC to play games as RTX 4080 performance. You just need a good internet connection for your SD OLED.
@@RavenDuran231 Thanks I will try that out and see if my internet is good enough
The asus is now $500, bought mine for sale for $400 from a buddy, and it really is better than my steamdeck not by a lot, but you do notice a graphical and framerate difference
That's the original ROG Ally. Not the ROG Ally X.
I hate these kind of videos. It going to vary from user to user. If you use game pass or have a lot of games that won't play on Linux, rog ally x. If all your games are on stream, get the steam deck.
But steam deck is showing its age now and can’t do newer aaa steam games like the ally can.
4 real
I would also add another category for Ally X - people who have the money to spend and want a more powerful machine. Especially since now there are easy ways to just install steam deck os on the ally x but still be able to boot into windows for those games.
This is actually a good argument. Also, if budget is not a concern, then I think going for Ally X is good.
Exactly, I have a pc that cost me almost 3000€ and that can run all aaa games without problems in 4K. Why am I going to spend almost 899€ on an Ally X? A pack with a PS5 and a PS Portal is still cheaper than an Ally X.
The price of a Steam Deck is also absurd, but much more reasonable than the price of an Ally. People are spending money on handhelds that are quickly becoming obsolete, which are just slightly improved versions of previous releases and and we are getting closer to the new launches of GPUs(RDNA4) from AMD. Wouldn't it be better to wait for the new generation of handhelds than buy new toys?
As someone with little to no interest in new AAA games or online shooters I got the Deck and I couldn't be happier. Performance in older games and indies is already maxed out with the Deck OLED so more power doesn't matter when you're playing old games or 2D indies. Also you get better screen and more streamlined user interface.
As a steam deck owner. Not all old games run great on the deck. Linux gets in the way. It’s great when the game is 100% verified by steam but when it comes to games that aren’t supported by steam or like most older games aren’t mapped well you need to put a lot of your own work into those games to have them work well on the deck.
Finally a video that helped me make a decision. Other dudes just make it harder to choose . Cheers Fowler!!
I'm looking at my Best Buy cart right now with the Ally X
You gonna get it?
Gonna get my OLED Steam Deck tomorrow but I hope you enjoy that Ally!
I bought it don't regret it one bit coming from steam deck. Deck is better optimized but this feels like my desktop in handheld mode
@@bloodofdepanta just got it and a 4 tb ssd to dual boot.
Get it!
I just ordered my steam deck Wednesday and it will be here in the morning. Cheers boys!
Love the Aly X, love that it has the best battery life. No limitations on downloading games. But i just love the feel of the steamdeck. The Aly X feels less comfortable to hold for me.
I personally like playing older gen games or even newer indie games on a handheld. If there’s a new AAA game release I’m most likely gonna go with a console experience. I think for majority of people the Steamdeck OLED is the better choice. Save the 250 bucks
@@TheAlexkokonas call of duty is the biggest selling game ever year and majority of pc gamers play on windows. More people play Fortnite, call of duty, madden, destiny 2, overwatch 2 etc than they do indie games and old 360 games.
Here in the UK the ROG ALLY X costs £320 more than the SteamDeck OLED 512 GB.
Returned the Asus Ally X for the 2nd time. The first Asus Ally X had a bad shoulder button. The 2nd Asus Ally X has alot of issues with armory crate and 3rd party launchers. If I connect my Asus Ally X to my monitor or TV, it doesn't work properly. You require a mouse and/or keyboard. It's very buggy overall. Sometimes I required restarting the system in order to get it to function properly.
Sound like a you problem
@SWOTHDRA why you triggered. Just admit windows 11 isn't great for handhelds lol
@@WarAlex16 Windows is fine on handhelds. It would stand for some better optimization. But really if you treat it like a windows PC, alot of the issues are easy to configure and fix
@@WarAlex16 How is windows not good for handhelds? Have had my Ally for over a year and no issues 😂
@@WarAlex16 Your first mistake was buying this offbrand chinese crap, your second is being computer illiterate, third is just being an a*shole.
Until it has trackpads its pointless, at least for me...
I play a lot of older games, that only work well on steam deck because of the trackpads.
3ds emulation.
Any sims game.
RTS games as a whole.
And many more older games, if the rog Ally x had oled and trackpads i might generally consider it.
Yeah, the lack of trackpads has prevented me from squeezing the trigger. I'm holding off on buying a handheld for now. With my luck I'll spend $800 on the ROG Ally X & then they'll announce the new ROG Ally 2 with better hardware & trackpads for the same price.
I agree!
I use the Deck for Sims, the trackpad is GOD TIER! Also it's weird the Ally uses Win11 but the options for mouse movement are a touchscreen or joystick, none of which are intuitive. Desktop navigation on the Steam Deck is SO MUCH BETTER! It's the first handheld desktop device I've had that actually has comfortable, non-annoying mouse movement.
Yeah that’s what holds me back on any other handhelds. Until you use trackpads they won’t understand how useful it is
Definitely getting the OLED Steam Deck
The steam deck OLED he has is the limited edition one. That one sells for 800 plus which is not worth considering the performance compared to the ally x
I bought the Ally X a week and a half ago it was my first handheld pc and yesterday I returned it. It was terrible, armory crate and the command center kept glitching, it was always freezing overall just a terrible experience. I actually ordered the Steam Deck 1TB OLED today which I honestly should’ve done from the beginning
Could've just turned it into a Linux machine with bazzite
I’ve had mine for about a week now and had the total opposite experience. Don’t regret buying it one bit
Ordering my 1TB OLED tomorrow morning!
@@smartl4dhad my Ally x for 3 weeks & I absolutely love it!
Same, the menus froze a lot, the embedded controller kept swapping inputs, and the games I wanted to play were just unstable, and I got quite a bit of experience. With performance optimization, it never made it there, imo. I contacted support, and it was very quick to get my return. My buddie has a steam deck oled dual boot, and the frametimes are much more stable and don't fluctuate like my rog ally x did.
i haven't tried the ally x, but I did hop straight into the steam deck oled and I've been very happy with it as most of my library ends up being either indie or not very taxing games. the steam verified system could use some work though, maybe community voting
On 2d games or cartoonish games OLED 800p deck is ok but on 3d graphical games you will notice the difference between 800p vs 1080p. Sharper and crisper image will always looks better on demanding high graphical AAA 3d games its not even close. 800p will always look pixelated when comparing side by side with a 1080p which is why I don't know why some people say deck has better screen. Play ratchet and clank rift apart compare them side by side the difference is night and day. ROG ally with that 1080p screen with 120hz and VRR which makes the overall gameplay smooth and that AMD fluid motion is always gonna be better. If you got the money by all means get the ally x.
Yeah it’s weird to me as well. I feel people want to justify why having an inferior device is better. Now don’t get me wrong I still love my OG and OLED steam decks. But in way shape or form are either of them better than the Ally X. Also the fact that everyone says the steam deck just works and there’s no tinkering is full of it. I spent just as much time getting things to work on the deck as within windows. Also trying to explain to friends and family that are not tech savvy about proton was a nightmare. Bottom line is both the steam deck are underpowered. And I understand that was their goal to make a decent enough device that could okay pc games at a cheaper price tag than with Ayaneo and the like of these other Chinese windows pc handhelds were priced at. But once Asus released a device with even better specs than those device at the $700 price tags I knew it was over. Those device had costed over $1200, which was insane.
I'm going with the Ally X solely based on the stick placement. Xbox layout is just peak
I have the high-end Ryzen Z1 Extreme edition of the original ROG Ally and I love it!
thanks for a great video! I'm going with an Ally X.
Thank God I sold the deck and bought rog Ally x, can play my all librarry games
steam deck oled limited edition looks so cool compared to the regular stock one, wished they kept making them
The screen is horrible tho
@@SWOTHDRA Wdym?
This was about the best comparison video I’ve ever seen. I have the z1 extreme ally,and bought a 140 w power bank (anker 737) to go with it, so I’ll stay put. Love the ally though.
Hoping to get some advice….
I currently have the SD LCD version and LOVE it, but am looking to upgrade. Should I keep my existing SD and just pick up the ALLY X? Or get the OLED version SD?
@@Jglover32 sell the steam deck and just keep the x.
My advice is that you should keep your SD LCD, until the release of a new version or generation of handhelds, maybe a SD 2 or an Ally 2.
Sell the LCD and upgrade to the OLED, you won't regret it
I’d either wait for gen 2 devices or just get the SD OLED if you can sell your SD LCD. The Ally X would be a sidegrade - an upgrade in some areas but also a significant downgrade in others. The Deck OLED on the other hand would be an unquestionable upgrade unless your eyes are super sensitive to PWM flicker.
I upgraded from the lcd steam deck to the Lenovo legion go and honestly I don’t think I could go back to that little 7” screen . And the difference in performance is crazy , especially on games with unreal engine 5 the steam deck really struggles to even play them . Perfect example is lords of the fallen 2023 looks like shit and has to be capped at 30 fps on steam deck. But on legion go it looks so good with fsr 3 and frame gen and you can bump it up to 900p or 1000p and still get 40-50 fps.
The Ally X also has VRR and really good speakers but unfortunately there are already numerous reports on QC issues like stuck or squeaky buttons. BTW, Jedi Survivor works just fine on the Deck.
Some misinformation here. The Steam Deck OLED has a different processor from the original. In terms of raw power, it isn't necessarily more powerful, but it is more power efficient, allowing it to run better at low TDPs. And it is kinda unfair to knock points off the Ally for having a Windows desktop when Armory Crate exists. Especially considering the Deck also has a desktop.
If you're a AAA gamer who wants better performance, I recommend the ROG Ally X.
But if you want a good handheld PC that costs the price of a PS4, go for the Steam Deck.
Should i go for for the asus rog ally x or steam deck oled i wanna play cod and eafc 25
Steam Deck is the best. I need the Oled Limited Edition! Valve should send me one because I buy a lot of games every month
Silly question but would you be able to run emulators on either of these handhelds pretty well?? Definitely torn between these two 😩
The steam deck is def where it's at if you want to run emulators it's absolutely amazing and simple
I love my steam decks emulation ability, got some old gamecube, dreamcast and playstation/ps2 games on there that i used to love as a kid
Question: if someone said they’d buy you either one (so price isn’t a variable) which one would you pick?
Ally X
(Considering compatibility)
Ally x no doubt
SD OLED. No VRR, worse battery life, resolution, speakers, game compatibility and performance, comparable cooling noise but way better UX, sleep function, build quality, ergonomics, trackpads, support, contrast, colors, HDR, pixel response.
This depends on what kind of games you play on your device. If you are mostly on 2d and lite 3d games or emulators like me, steam deck is way better and easier to use. But for modern and heavy games, rog Ally x is better because of better hardware.
I'm pretty much an indie gamer, but as an indie gamer, I sometimes enjoy cheats too, and at the same time some indie games needs to have trackpads. HOWEVER some indie games are available outside of Steam itself??
Holy cow, they both are truly not making this easier for me.
Big questions for me is which ones can i mod Skyrim/Fallout/Starfield with Nexus Mods and Nolvus and also which ones could i use Splashtop Remote desktop? That way, i could possibly just play on my laptop but from the handheld.
Point is, if you want the best handheld, get the Rog Ally X.
Depends on budget too
I will always pick the Steam Deck OLED
Yup
I've had the rog ally x and few weeks now in that time I can honestly say the device is amazing but it has its flaws within that few weeks it's blue screened and I've had to reinstall windows to get it functional again. And just yesterday it's developed a squeaky left trigger and its had minimal use
@@airjohnpro yeah me too. But I had Regular ROG Ally, and it was really nice. But I love OLED screen, trackpads, ergonomy of SD OLED. And Valve support is amazing. I had LeGO and it was the worst...Useless, noisy, piece of garbage.
I dont mind windows dont see whats the problem with windows.
I have LCD steam deck and I love it. Putting it to sleep in the middle of the game is great.
But Id trade it for a stronger device, if only it had 4 buttons and trackpads. It is a deal breaker.
I dont know why they dont put at least one track pad and 4 buttons on the back??
I’m really not sure on which one to get
Where in the hell can we buy these handhelds in Europe??
We should talk about Bazzite....
Why people can't use steam big picture mode? It's crazy
I’m thinking of grabbing a steam deck oled only because of how much I despise a-symmetrical thumbsticks
I went ally x… like it so far. Only play GTA V and so far it runs freaking smoothly. I did some tweaks, and no complaints so far
Get both... Done
Im fortunate enough to have both. The Oled will always be my baby. But oled doesn't matter when the games look blurry because of the hardware. The Ally X shames it on every game ive tried so far. The only problem with the X is I can't figure out how to hibernate/sleep with it on a consistent basis. Any suggestions?
Tell Microsoft if you find the solution for hibernate/sleep. You will be a huge help to every Windows user on this planet.
Windows never sleeps because its too busy running bloatware in the background, forcing pointless updates and harvesting users data
I have both and prefer the oled unless I need gamepass or more power.
Had both device but because i like modding my games, i usually use the ally more. Sold the deck to my brother.
you can run windows on the steamdeck (and android if you want). Dual booting is very easy with it. You can also run them through Proton or WINE.
Sooo I wanna play god of war 2018 which one is better?
Both performs very well, no miss in this case.
@@felippedias5446 okay I think I will go with asus because it has EA,epic games and steam
God of War should probably be played on something stronger like the Ally X. It's a graphically demanding game and there's a lot of pretty stuff to look at. I'd imagine SD wouldn't give you the best experience with it.
@@lexkek5625 okay thx good to know
Hey everyone can I just sign in and have all my games on the asus Rog ally and steam deck?
I really hope they release an OLED version of the rog ally x
You're compatibility point is a little silly, if you've actually been using the steam deck you should know there are an incredible number of ways to install things on the Steam deck, and even more recently we've gotten the non-steam game launcher plug-in so you don't even have to do any desktop mode tweaking to get these launchers running. The literal only thing that I haven't been able to get going on Steam deck so far is installing games from game pass.... I can play them on cloud gaming however and I can stream from my Xbox and my PS, and every pc-based launcher out there works perfectly on the steam deck as well as all of the games for them. Compatibility rating for the steam deck on its games is BS, and most "partially compatible" games work perfectly
I call bs
@@REDACTED__007 Call BS on what?
@@stevehall364 "Incredible number of ways to install things on a steam deck" how can you say that then talk about streaming games in the same sentence?? The steam deck has horrible compatibility so what are you on about
@@stevehall364 The compatibility rating was perfectly fine
4:31 Why complain about the W11 desktop when even you yourself mention you don't need to use it and there's a specific game launcher? That should not be used as a negative.
Steam deck oled is the winner
One think I want to do is also use the handheld as a mobile computer to do work which would require windows, leaning to the Ally but wondering if dual booting windoows works
Guess it depends on what type of work exactly but linux has its own version of office tools which work pretty well
Number one problem with this machine(steam deck) is anti cheat system isn't supported on it which stops games like GTA v online working and battlefield 2042 and call of duty modern warfare 3
Nothing of value has been lost..
How do I play my Xbox games offline on the ally X?
The base steamdeck experience is fantastic but if your not remotely familiar with Linux its a real pain point, many games require some tinkering or work arounds to run on deck so it will be something most will have to deal with at some point and for the average person thats gonna feel inconvenient and quickly become very annoying
I live in my campervan, with no Internet, just 4g on my phone, can you play the ally x without Internet?
is this a bot?
im assuming the handfeel can be fixed with som ergonomic grips for the ally x
Idk guys, u mean trying to justify a 800$ purchase almost 1000$ is crazy for a handheld but honestly I have a steam deck LCD right now and I’m leaning more towards to steam deck OLED just because of the ease of use, all of the uses when I was on the original rog ally were so bad, paying 600$ for a device that has screen and heating issues especially with the SD card but dam the ROG ally x looks so dam fine and I honestly don’t know guys ?
yep, Ally looks like an lazy way to make a product. Valve created proton, created new OS, designed new device with comfortable usage and keep support all of that, and made it relatively cheap. Asus? Create the launcher app and sold already exist OS with gamepad elements. No optimization, no additional stuff, just nothing at all. And put noticibly higher price tag .
Dislike.
Ally x is a no brainer if SteamOS releases.
@@DrakonR eh no it’s not, it already has bazzite and we don’t wanna install all these extra things man, we are parents and are busy most of the time, we just want it to work no extra steps 👍
@@jacobpino2756 win 11 doesn't work without extra steps. Try again.
what if your Playstation studio games are on steam. Would the steam deck be best or rog ally x?
im here at 102k subs see you when you are the best of the best :)
What if the game I want to play is not on stream, like honkai star rail or the last of us 2,let say there not on steam app, how can I play them if I can only afford the steam deck oled???
Obviously Steam Deck, you'll appreciate the sleep mode, you can just pause a game and put it to sleep and wake it up later to resume your game (and don't ever install windows on it because it constantly wakes up your steam deck)
That's really cool, but how make it keep downloading the game in a sleep mode if I need to? I need to watch my console and wake it up from time to time, that's painful.
@@vladyslavstadnyk2762 when i download games, i put it on charger to prevent it going to sleep.
If SD Oled can do the same thing as the Rog ally, then the Price will probably be the deciding factor
There is an option to turn off the LEDs on the analog controls on the Rog Ally
So... no mention of the Ally's VRR..?
Isnt big screen mode kinda just the steam deck launcher so any complaints about things being hard to navigate atlest on steam should be fairly the same. then the xbox app is easy to navigate with a remote so it should be fine on the rogally
I've had the original steam deck since launch and I found it frustrating with most of the games I do play not working well/at all thanks to the Linux OS.
Steam Deck OLED. All. Day.
Get the Ally X, the steam desk is a pain in the arse to get working right.
Said nobody ever.
I'm leaning into the ROG Ally X. I want to be able to access Game Pass & my Xbox library. As well as Steam Library, Emulation & full Windows 11. The extra power, full 1080p screen with 120hz & VRR makes it well worth the extra money. If only it had those damn trackpads though.
I understand the games not working but i also have some older games that crash on my pc and cant be played that i can play ony steam deck fine. My tvs are oled and so isy monitor. Oled is hard to go bacl from. Id love to have ally x internals in a steamdeck OLED lol
I got a steam deck oled but I really want the rog ally x because I can play call of dudy
I think ROC is using a cruddy display & I don’t know why anyone would praise it. In terms of colors nits brightness saturation however you want to call, it’s dull. The legion go , meanwhile, has the brightest highest saturated most vibrant LED display I’ve ever seen. b/c the display is so meh w/ ROC, I would between these options purchase a Steam OLED & just install windows on it. Neither of these devices would ever top my list tho.
Seth does tech, too? Lol
Yeah I was surprised…. Where his Yeezys at
Which one runs madden online the best?
i’m getting Ally X
Weird, most channels say the Ally X ergonomics are much better than the Steam Deck.
I need the trackpads, so I'm sticking with my OLED.
I was playing Forza horizon 5 on my ally x the other day . I was playing at high settings 1080p and was getting 60 plus fps. This was at the 17 watt mode too. Steam deck just doesn't have the performance the ally does.
Steam Deck main aim is not high performance, it's battery life, ease of use (like you can pause a game, put it to sleep and wake it up to play it instantly without having to close & open the game each time). Things that any windows handheld couldn't do because the problem with windows handheld they could be awaken constantly by notifications
@@leewalker23 Ally x gets better battery life. I had both. Also the steam deck is not always easy to use. Some games require workarounds like installing different protons etc.
@@coolmodee never encountered games that require it (hopefully not). Wish windows handheld would fix the issue of the constant wake because of the notifications (other than having to switch off the notifications entirely).
@@leewalker23Is turning off notifications such a big deal.
@@paulsegrue5133 I hope you're not dumb enough to realize there're also many other reasons that would awake your windows device. I had similar issue with my laptop and no, it isn't just notifications
The amount of Steam Deck cope in the comments that are trying to justify why it's not bad that the Steam Deck is inferior is genuinely the funniest thing I've seen all day.
Ally X is the best handheld at the moment
SD Oled > ROG Ally OG
ROG Ally X > Steam Oled
Watching from an ally x.. Returning it tomorrow
I’m returning mine today 😆 Too many problems..
@@UnrealNeal what problems are you experiencing?
I have a SD OLED. I like it. I play it. I have no complaints.
Steam Deck OLED FTW here.
14:08 Cap,games look waaay better on the oled display,no matter how good the ips panel used is,it will never be as good as an oled screen
Such an exaggeration
Sorry for sounding dumb and lazy, but can someone just give me a tl;dw of this? For context, all of my games are on Steam. I play some good ol' emulation games on my PC too, but tbh I just want something that I can take with me when I'm not at home and play my Steam games on. Sucks when I'm at a hotel or something and can't play PC games lol
Honestly the steam deck OLED works just fine, its very easy to use, its literally steam in console form, once you boot it up, everything is there, your library, your profile, everything. Going into desktop mode is very simple also, its not like windows where it has thousands of apps and programs that you will probably never use and have to go through a painstaking process to try and uninstall clogging up the system. I use emudeck as well which will appear next to your steam library once you have it installed. Thats my opinion anyway.
if you want the best and can afford it ally x if not get SD oled and be happy either way
You gotta advertise this channel more
I got an OLED 512 GB for 420 Bucks
Simple answer Rog ally x you should buy
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Yup. SD is an overpriced pos.
700 bucks for 1Tb version of handheld to Play 2d emulatora. How nad is this?
@@lechistanskiswit320 that's why everyone recommends and buys the deck and only 10 people buy others lol
@@lechistanskiswit320 You can play most games at comparable settings to the Ally X if you stick with native resolutions on both. Keep in mind that while being like 50% faster, the Asus has almost twice as many pixels to push. Besides, the Deck just works. I’m not sure you’ll be able to say the same about the Asus after using it for a couple of weeks or months…
SD Oled all the way! 👍👍❤️