I bought the zx4rr. It’s a little more than sound. The quick shifter, screen, and potential once flashed make it more fun than a 180 degree parallel twin. 4K is a lot, but you get a really unique bike that’s a ton of fun.
I understand, but at that point why not just go for a 600? Sure it's a lot more power but it also has rider modes which would help especially as a beginner
A 600 is a big jump. I had one before, and it's great. But the 400 can scream down city streets without putting you in trouble. It's for sure a niche buy. But it's worth it to me.
Gotta agree. I upgraded from the z400 to the ZX-4RR. I got kinda lucky for mine, though. Coworker wanted my z400 and paid a good amount of cash for it. Turned it around to pay for my ZX-4RR and had some leftover.
It's restriced to 55bhp in North America due to the US noise regs according to Kawasaki. It wasn't their choice as everywhere else in the world it has the full 75bhp.
16,000 RPM and 75 horsepower with a flash is absolutely worth 4000 more. A bargain really. I'm a R6 owner and fanatic, And I super duper want that 400 inline four, The only Kawasaki around here is an old jet ski. 🤠
Lmao😂 It costs 2k or more to make 75hp on a zx4rr. Just spend that 2k for a zx6r that has 130hp, better brakes and better suspension right out factory. Zx4rr is a terrible buy
Watched pulls with both these bikes, full bolt on Ninja 400 (exhaust, intake, velocity stacks, dyno tune) and exhaust/tuned ZX4RR. The Ninja 400 in a roll took it off the throttle every time, and the ZX4RR didn’t reel it in until about 90 mph on both rolls. At those higher speeds the ZX4RR showed its high RPM/high speed strengths after its been unrestricted… the Ninja is overall extremely impressive for such an inexpensive platform!
I'm a returning rider after 30 years. My first bike was an FZR 600. Sweet bike back in the day. I chose the Ninja 400 because of the price point and because I need to relearn how to ride. Believe me, I compared the hell out of these two bikes, and I just could not see a reason to spend the extra cash plus the flash and the exhaust etc. I love my 400, it's awesome and perfect for me. More then likely I'll be trading it in for a bigger bike in a couple of years, or maybe I'll keep it. Only time will tell, but right now, I'm extremely happy with my decision. Oh, I got the black version as well. Ride safe! :)
torn between the two as a new rider, love the sound and electric startup on the zx4rr and currently could care less about the acceleration and whatnot. But the price difference is kind of wild...
So I’ve always been intoxicated by the 4-cylinder scream… but the deeper I dove into the details/dynamics that come with owning a 4-cylinder bike, the more I appreciate riding my Cbr500r on the streets of Detroit.
I have a store bought 900RS, bought the 4RR plan to get the hp’s come winter. Signed up for track day and though late in life will fulfill a bucket list item. And I do not really feel the 4RR needs much power added, but have not put it on the line against anything as yet either. A track day may show the need. To and fro to work it’s a fine commuter. As is the 900RS, just heavy and I do not want to drop it. Ones for fun the other, Let the good times roll!!!
Compared to parallel twins inline 4s sound really great and are super smooth down low but the lack of torque in the low/mid range is a pain in the ass indeed.
@@irishtrash5 I have a Z900RS cafe and a 2013 Monster 796 with mivv exhaust...best of both worlds lol Z900RS is smooth, refined, and gentlemanly; the Ducati is the opposite: unpredictable, bouncy, burns my legs and rowdy I do want to try out a Street Triple or a V4 next
This is coming from a new to the community, Daily Driver of a ZX4RR: The price point IS a deal breaker for most yes. And I understand that most people just getting into bikes are below my age, though I’m still in my 20s. Not everyone can afford it, but I lean towards the ZX4RR as a great beginner bike because it can be your one and done. Doing the math, I’d spend more money over time buying a bike I know I wouldn’t be 100% content with, and then upgrading to another bike later down the line. I personally didn’t like the sound of a dirt bike (lawnmower haha) so twin engines were not my first option. The ZX4R is smoother because of the 4 cylinders, and it’s beautiful because it’s heavier so you don’t get tossed around in the wind going highway speeds. Also, it’s nerfed for the American market because of regulations (sound and smog) not because Kawasaki decided it for the Shizz and Giggles. But you can pound through all the gears and still have fun, vs my guys on 600s that can’t go full beans before reaching even 4th gear. You learn to shift on more gears, you learn weight and resistance, if it scares you, ride in rain mode, then go to road and sport after. It’s a 400 so insurance was dirt cheap, and when you really become adept and you’re ready for more Power, you can flash and tune it, and you have ‘another’ bike. Kind of like 2 bikes in 1. It’s the best Daily one can have because there’s so much involved, but as a first time bike rider, this being my very first bike; It might be my last to be honest. It’s faster than you’d ever need (why want to go 180mph + ?), I can keep up with cruise meets very easily, it’s very ergonomic so you can ride for hours without tired arms or back, and it can be everything you want it to be. Has hooks on the bumper and frame so you literally can physically tie down backpacks/duffel bags for traveling or long journeys (something I’ve only ever seen one TH-camr talk about) What more could you want? The ZX4R is perfect because it’s fast enough for more than you’ll ever need, at mid triple digit speeds it’ll hesitate to let you know if that’s what you REALLY want to do, slow enough that you can bang 6 gears at 45 mph for a nice afternoon cruise, comfortable, and forgiving. The ZX4RR is perfect.
I'm thinking you are making very valid points here. Actually just the insurance alone will probably get you your original money back in the long run vs if you buy a 600cc or bigger bike.
@@Rx37Legacy Insurance is pricey... I'll probably self insure pretty soon just because its such a ripoff. I could chain 3x brand new Harley's (with 121 HP each) like to a chariot or something wild riding down the road and its still cheaper to insure that than my 600 sportbike!
It would be perfect maybe about 2k less. It’s not remotely marketable in the beginner bike class. It’s a niche machine that doesn’t really outperform a bike at half the cost. Most will not keep their first bike. This is evermore true in the US. I’ll use 2 points you make. Shifts are not dictated by the cylinder count. The comment about it shifts smoother because of it having 4 cylinders just isn’t true and is dependent on ton of mechanical factors. Gearing is a big one because the N400 enters its powerband at lower rpm. If you’ve ever ridden or drove any manual vehicle with lower gearing, you know what this means. It equates to a learning curve for smooth shifts. The term “short gears” comes to mind. The rr weighs barely nothing over the N400. It may feel more stable since it’s not gonna vibrate you put into the universe due to being an I4. I’ll concur that the upgrade to the bike itself may lend a hand in some but, not for double the price. I’ll say that due to its design it’s more city street able than many 600’s, as they can be appear guttless at low speeds and rpm. Which can make them a bore in low speed city areas
As an owner of a ZX4RR and a CBR500R plus 13 other bikes …. Mostly other peoples projects I have bought…. I completely agree with Yammie 😅 I love the ZX4RR and I will tune it one day but for now it good while the warranty is valid. She will pass my CBR500 like it’s standing still. 😅
I think we're missing the point of the ZX4RR. I will admit the American market de-tune is annoying and puts folks that love the concept, like me, on the defensive. BUT, to understand the bike you have to compare the twin 400 to the zx4RR properly tuned at ~75hp. It's a perfect jump from my current CBR500R on my way to something more. I'm in my mid 30s and just getting into riding the past few years. I really want a 4 cyl RR type bike, but I don't want a 115hp 600cc race replica after my simple 500 twin. The ZX4RR's I-4 engine is a perfect step on the way to I-4 600cc's for us that want to take our progression slowly. I used to look at bikes like this offered overseas and I was always curious. I think other riders like me exist in the US more and more.
I would say ur overthinking it. The zx6 will make less torque than the 500 throughout the rev range of the 500, but then it will start to grow power all the way out and it will keep u excited for a while, where i think the 4rr will b underwhelming after a few miles. U need to ride it hard to keep up w the 500 whereas w the 6r u dont. And when the 6 starts to excite ur butterflies u just close the throttle a little and ull b right as rain. But its ur choice, ride smart stay safe
I'm not missing the point, but these "journalists" really hate this bike. Btw drinking game over how many times this guy retracts and extends his phallus.
Honestly yeah, what I really want to eventually get it something like a bike equivalent of an S2000. Something that isn't necessary insanely powerful, but has a fun, high revving engine, and takes corners really well and generally is sporty
@@dankblissey6162 I can see that comparison. I went from an Integra GS-R to a 240SX with a too-big for me turbo. That jump in power/skill is why I'm a bit careful now that I'm older. I could've wrecked or gotten hurt. I still have my cbr500R and decided I wanted to finish my 10K mile goal before I make a decision. I have a track day event coming up later in the summer. I'd rather just get seat time in the bike I have. I'm just not as quick at this as driving. Maybe I'll never go bigger, and I'm okay with that.
It isn't just about beginner riders and/or track days. I have been riding for over 20 years. In my jurisdiction, mandatory insurance on anything over 400 cc is stupid expensive (even if it's an A2 compliant rebel or something - doesn't matter - a Rebel 500 will cost the same to insure as a GSXR750, but a ZX4RR will cost the same as a 150 cc scooter). So I am riding a z400 (same bike as the ninja 400, less fairings). I love that little bike, and it gives up nothing to the larger bikes when we're out in the twisties. It's just a great bonus that It's already paid for itself vs what I used to pay to insure my VFR. But the extra power, ride modes, etc. of the ZX4RR calls to me - I have a deposit on a 2024. Sucks that you have to get 'em flashed to get the power it's supposed to have, but at least that option is available..
Ninja 400 is the best choice for most riders and those who would appreciate the RR probably already know that's what they want! I keep hoping my favorite Chinese Motorcycle company Kove will start selling Bikes here which would give us a 70hp 4 cylinder supersport that weighs closer to and costs about the same as the Ninja but if we can't even get Honda Hornets here I'm not going to hold my breath.
@Fortnine did a video that very well explains why the ZX4RR is tuned how it is for the north american market. Boils down to tailpipe emissions and noise regulations. If it is tuned up the bigger explosions at the same insane frequency mean a higher internal engine temp that ends up producing more bad emissions and (because bigger boom) more noise. I love how it sounds stock and really doubt the "need" for more power but I'm just a freak that likes small bikes anyway
I’ve had a 400 for 3 years now. At first I wanted more power coming from a CBR 600 that my buddy crashed. Honestly Yeah sure it’s cool to go fast in a straight line but I found what’s even better is being able to twist the throttle on this little 400 and throw it around like a toy which is what it is. My riding has improved I’ve learned how to lean and hug the tank with my leg. For 6k it’s the better package. Why spend 10k on something that’s so similar to the 4 but not as much fun? At that point might as well go the extra 2 for 600.
Thinking back 30 years or so most definitely was the golden age of small capacity sports bikes, but I have to admit the choice is much better now for the more practical small sporty bikes.
I'm doing a return to motorcycles after several years. My Ninja 400 makes me IMPOSSIBLY happy. Yes, it lacks power (which you wouldn't really be getting with the RR either, not without that flash anyway...), but the thing is FUN to ride around! Very very light and agile, comfortable position, the sound has nothing on a bike with a good pipe... but to be honest, it's not bad, at WOT above 8000 it sounds pretty nice actually. Also the gearing makes it super fun, you can accelerate like a madman in first and second... and you're still at legal-ish speeds. If you were to just gun the first on a 1000 SS, you'd kill somebody XD I'm sure the RR is even more fun... but to be honest, the Ninja 400 is ENOUGH. If the price difference was slim, I'd say go for the RR. But given this price tag... I might get a Ninja 650 instead of the 400RR. The registration cost of a 650 is more though... I'd hesitate... In any case, I'm very happy with the Ninja 400. It's not out of the equation that I might put a lighter and breathier exhaust on it at some point to shed a few pounds and maybe gain a couple HPs.
I got a 2015 ninja ex300. I just bought it 2 months ago with only 900 miles on it. I already put 1,000 miles on it!! Happened so fast. Love the 300. I live in Massachusetts so its a lot of city driving. The 300 for city riding is perfect for me. Im very happy with it.
Wifes bike is the ninja 400 boight used for 4500 no miles. Extremely happy with it. Great noises, and from 8-12k rpms it shoots. My xsr700 78hp with mods is about 400 lbs and i still enjoy her 360lb 400cc non tuned
Totally agree, bro. Simply didn't get any excitement riding the ZX-4R on a test on a track. I simply don't know for whom this bike is for. Beginners that never rode any bike before are crazy and thinking this rides like even the ZX-10R don't - that's crazy! Experienced riders that already got some torque addiction will find nothing on a ZX-4R. But... even though I've never rode a Ninja 400, I've rode the Z-400. Man, what a bike. Loved it. So the 2 cil 400cc and now 500cc Kawa platform really has what one motorcycle lover really looks for on a motorcycle. You nailed it! Best from Brazil, bro. Congrats on your work on this great TH-cam channel.
I am an experienced rider, I think a zx4rr would be an awesome bike. I like smaller displacement bikes because you get to use all the power on a regular basis, zx4rr seems like the ultimate version of that. My only complaint without ever riding it is weight, that bike should weigh well under 400lbs. 75hp at 16k RPM and 360lbs sounds like a machine that would motivate me to spend 10k.
It's ridiculously cheap these bikes in USA... almost unbelievable. You could buy them with a month's salary with ease. In my country you'd need about 3 months of work to buy the 400. The ZX would be about 6 months salary. I say this considering an average salary equivalent in both countries.
Yammie they will know the difference. That sound is amazing! I have a Z400 and I do agree at high revs it sounds nice, BUT that 4cyl. sound is amazing! I just don’t want the big power 4cyl.
The zx 4r is one of the few 4 cylinders sportsbikes that you can ride daily because of the ergos. The ducati supersport is another option, but costlier.
I've ridden many bikes, but when I reviewed the Ninja 400 last year, it simply felt right. I liked it even more than the BMW M 1,000 R and that's because it fit me better. That's what matters more than anything, a bike you feel comfortable on. I've never been a "sport bike" guy, but after experiencing the Ninja 400, I'd love to own one for those days where you want to mount a bike that matches your energy level.
Awesome vid, I know this is silly but next time put the name of the motorcycles on the correct side. On the board the zx4rr is on the left and ninja 400 on the right but the bikes are parked on opposite sides. Just a small thing but would be less confusing for those who cant tell them appart. sick vid!
Another excellent analysis. You really show the little differences between these two beautiful bikes. Your informations and impressions are really useful and are, for me, references for making a good choice between these two bikes. "Always in the green! Thanks a lot!
Flashing the ZX4RR to get the full 75hp out of it would void the warranty though, wouldn't it? Also, the frame on the ZX4RR being steel really increased the weight of it. Should've made it aluminum. Hope you can reply to my comment though, would like to hear your thoughts. Thanks man.
I have been riding for many years. And i have test ridden many bikes including the Ninja 400. Which i really liked. But then only three months ago i bought a 2017 Ducati 939 Supersport with only 2159 km on it for a good price. and i really love it. But in certain situations i love a smaller and lighter bike. Also a bike i can park somewhere without worrying as much about it. And just three days ago i came across a 2020 Ninja 400 for sale. It was first registered in Nov 2021. And looked like new with 288 km on it. At a really good price. And i couldnt resist buying it. On the smaller twisties it is just a joy to ride. And i am no beginner. I love both of my bikes. The Ninja 400 is a really nice bike. It doesnt have much low end power. But has no problem getting up to speed on the small canyons. And you can wip it around and have tons of fun on it.
2 important things: 1) the weight: are you confident to do slow traffic moves in the heavier RR? 2) the cheaper bike doesn’t have TRACTION CONTROL that you forgot to mention, means less safe for beginners. So the choice is tough. Maybe 1 more: the RR is more future proof, so you end up losing less money!
Australia $15k zx4rr 40th $18k zx6r 40th $10300 500 40th. This is what mine cost and on x2 500 add $2300 delivery from 2 different states as none in mine)
In my opinion it makes no sense to buy the ZX4RR unless you just want to waste your money and look cool. The ninja 400 is such a superior and versatile motorcycle that comes at such a great value/price. I don't know of much motorcycles that can give you the value, performance, and ergonomics as the ninja 400. I bought mine last year brand new for less than $6K after taxes and registration, you can't beat that. The thing about this motorcycle is it can be used in so many different ways. It can be a starter bike or a performance racer. It can be a commuter to work or fun yet exciting work horse. I've mainly used mine for commuting and it hasn't failed or given me any issues yet. It just makes no sense to buy the ZX4RR at that price point, there are far better motorcycles at a better price point. You can pretty much buy two ninja 400s for the price of the ZX4RR.
I disagree ….getting the 4RR is the way to go …learn on it then get it flash after… no need to upgrade.. the perfect motorcycle.. flash cost let’s say $400 To upgrade to a new motorcycle let’s say $12,000 Ninja 400 is like $6,000 So yes 4RR for me
zx4rr is just a meme bike. It will maybe be collectable some day, but I just don't understand why I wouldn't get a 600 instead if I wanted a screaming i4. Hell I wouldn't be shocked if the 400 was faster or if not as fast around the track...
I have owned both bikes(financed) and honestly the ZX-4RR is way better of a choice. If you're new to riding you can put it in Rain Mode so the power is just like the Ninja 400 and it'll be more comfortable for the rider to learn on. my point is that you have way more room to grow with the ZX-4RR with more power potential and tech. It's worth the money. I think @yammienoob is biased against the price point, financing both bikes is very possible with or without credit.
For a pro's point of view, its a waste of money. But I think ZX4RR is a better biginner bike. Of course as a pro in racetrack, they don't need ABS, TCS and other stuff that ZX4RR offers. But why not pick a bike with more safety if you can afford it specially if you're goin to use it as a daily bike.
Rode a Ninja 400, I would agree it is a Great beginner bike, but for someone who is used to a super sport bike, it felt like a big moped you can shift, in my humble opinion.
There is nothing on the zx4rr that can justify the price difference. even with dbruntz1 saying its more fun. you can get a better bigger cc bike for that price. if you want a 400 then just get the cfmoto 450 ss versus the ninja 400, 450 ss wins
I just can't see why I would buy a ZX4RR when it's price point is on par with bikes that are just objectively better. For instance, a Triumph Street Triple R, Yamaha MT-09/XSR900, Aprilia Tuono 660, and Suzuki GSX-8S costs about the same (give or take 1k), and they are a vastly better bike in every metric aside from the subjectives like looks and "soul".
@@kenfromhawaii1138 explain to me how the ZX4RR is better than any of the bikes listed besides looks or feel. I'll give you a freebie. There's a decent case that it's more reliable.
@@ultimatemassive9501the things you listed are 100+ horse power, often you can't even use that power and it will often sit there unused. Imho the US version of the zx4rr is not worth it, in Europe it makes much more sense. The zx6r is back here but costs 13799 euro vs 10799 euro for the 77hp zx4rr. It's a good balance between power and being able to use it compared to limiting yourself to 25% throttle
@potatoo_69 I see your point, but if usable power is a concern, you might as well spend significantly less and get the Ninja 400. I own a Street Triple 765, and its power is very usable. It will get you in trouble quickly if you aren't responsible though.
@@ultimatemassive9501 Yeah the ninja 400 is a better starter bike, I currently own a Ninja 400 and might be upgrading to a zx4rr because it has all the upgrades I seek in a bike whilst not deviating from the thing that I love about the ninja platform. My friend has the triple 675 r and has indeed crashed due to irresponsible throttle behavior which is a problem with the faster bikes. It requires a ton more skill and discipline but eventually you will grow into it and learn to drive 100hp+ beasts, the zx4rr with the full 77/80hp is a good upgrade bike in-between if you have the money for it. But in its current US state again its not worth it, the zx6r is so close in price and you can just use a different driving mode if you are less skilled.
Why do you remind me of Tyler from SecureTeam10 channel ?? I knew you looked familar haha but yes I want Ninja 500 or now the ZX4RR but I will only have $3k to put down. The day is getting sooner and sooner and I'm excited !!!
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I love the zx4rr but not the price might as well spend the extra 3k n get the 636. Zx4rr on the track though dominates over the 636s n the 1000s in the corners and on switch back sections. In the straights the zx4rr is nimble but unlike a 636 or 1000 it lacks on the power band in the top end where the 636s and 1000s can power through the straights and out of turns quicker. Also depends on the rider aswell everyone rides differently and has there own style when riding that suits them.
might as well just get a zx6r and put it in low power mode, that would be about the same hp as the flashed zx4. Not to mention parts are gonna be easier to get and cheaper for a zx6.
Not even close. The low power mode on the 636 basically just flatlines the power above 10 000 rpm. You still get the same pull from 0-9000 rpm, maybe a touch lazier throttle response. The 636 will still pull like a litre bike compared to the 4r even in rain mode;
@@kenfromhawaii1138 Is the ZX10 nearly identical price? No... I spent less on my new 6r than yam did for his 4rr. I repeat, I spent LESS (and I'm in a super corrupt state where finding anything even at MSRP is a shocker). It also has more suspension adjustment on the front (3 settings instead of just 1), bigger front disks, and a few other nice things. I went from 15 HP 250cc (had it since I was 14, which is when I had my license) to the 6r. Put it in low power for a few weeks, and you're golden. It really softens the throttle and makes it easier for smooth low speeds. Its roughly 87 HP max when its in low power, but it feels really tame (in high power with TC it can get rowdy, and optimal speed for power wheelies in 2nd gear seems to be about 65-70 mph and it hovers the front wheel up past 90 mph without a sweat). If the ZX10r was the same price, I would have just bought that. I've only got 2500 miles on my new 6r, but I do see that I'll probably want even more later on (around here the cops don't even bother chasing if they see you cruising along at 120-140 mph, and the roads are SOOO nice that you can maintain that speed on the sweeping curves and almost start using the sides of the tires but I think there's a decent amount of lean left in it but that's just so buttery smooth going to work or getting some breakfast, and that engine loves to scream even pegged in 6th, when its safe of course).
@@jakegarrett8109 I understand your sentiment getting excited on your 600. See, I already owned a bunch of 600s. 20 years ago. I've been there, done all that already. Owned over 30 motorcycles in my life. Eventually you care less about speed, and more about fun. The ZX-4RR is just as fun as the 1000cc bikes I've ridden in the past on both street and track. For me, price is irrelevant. I want what I want, and I love my ZX-4RR.
Guys when you hear a zx4rr on that flash with a exhaust you’ll know why tf North America was like oh hell na that shit will have the dead dancing thriller
i think Ninja 400 are for beginner rider or someone who were on budget to have only one cheap bike do it all. and ZX4RR are for people who already habe bigger faster bike in the garage like big adventure or touring and want someting small not so fast but freaking loud and fun for street or track.
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Do your giveaways go to the uk too?
I bought the zx4rr. It’s a little more than sound. The quick shifter, screen, and potential once flashed make it more fun than a 180 degree parallel twin. 4K is a lot, but you get a really unique bike that’s a ton of fun.
I understand, but at that point why not just go for a 600? Sure it's a lot more power but it also has rider modes which would help especially as a beginner
A 600 is a big jump. I had one before, and it's great. But the 400 can scream down city streets without putting you in trouble. It's for sure a niche buy. But it's worth it to me.
It's a unique bike but ye definitely paying for it. Bought a new XSR 900 instead. Same otd price. The 400 was actually a little more 😂
It comes down to, play in gears 4,5,6; or 1,2,3. Everybody gets to choose. Either way works. Should I ever get a 600, it would be just a track bike.
Gotta agree. I upgraded from the z400 to the ZX-4RR. I got kinda lucky for mine, though. Coworker wanted my z400 and paid a good amount of cash for it. Turned it around to pay for my ZX-4RR and had some leftover.
Me: "I have never wanted a comparison of these two bikes."
Proceeds to watch the whole video.
This. So much this. I don’t know why, but Yamm’s breakdowns hit all my data buttons.
It's restriced to 55bhp in North America due to the US noise regs according to Kawasaki. It wasn't their choice as everywhere else in the world it has the full 75bhp.
16,000 RPM and 75 horsepower with a flash is absolutely worth 4000 more. A bargain really. I'm a R6 owner and fanatic, And I super duper want that 400 inline four, The only Kawasaki around here is an old jet ski. 🤠
Hahaha you remember the 250/300 inJetSki
Lmao😂 It costs 2k or more to make 75hp on a zx4rr. Just spend that 2k for a zx6r that has 130hp, better brakes and better suspension right out factory.
Zx4rr is a terrible buy
Watched pulls with both these bikes, full bolt on Ninja 400 (exhaust, intake, velocity stacks, dyno tune) and exhaust/tuned ZX4RR. The Ninja 400 in a roll took it off the throttle every time, and the ZX4RR didn’t reel it in until about 90 mph on both rolls. At those higher speeds the ZX4RR showed its high RPM/high speed strengths after its been unrestricted… the Ninja is overall extremely impressive for such an inexpensive platform!
I'm a returning rider after 30 years. My first bike was an FZR 600. Sweet bike back in the day. I chose the Ninja 400 because of the price point and because I need to relearn how to ride. Believe me, I compared the hell out of these two bikes, and I just could not see a reason to spend the extra cash plus the flash and the exhaust etc. I love my 400, it's awesome and perfect for me. More then likely I'll be trading it in for a bigger bike in a couple of years, or maybe I'll keep it. Only time will tell, but right now, I'm extremely happy with my decision. Oh, I got the black version as well. Ride safe! :)
DOPE!!!! I'm thinking of getting one!!!
torn between the two as a new rider, love the sound and electric startup on the zx4rr and currently could care less about the acceleration and whatnot. But the price difference is kind of wild...
So I’ve always been intoxicated by the 4-cylinder scream… but the deeper I dove into the details/dynamics that come with owning a 4-cylinder bike, the more I appreciate riding my Cbr500r on the streets of Detroit.
I have the Z900 RS from Yam and after 8 months in LA and multiple 1000+ mile rides.... I still love the sound, but I also want a v-twin now...
I have a store bought 900RS, bought the 4RR plan to get the hp’s come winter. Signed up for track day and though late in life will fulfill a bucket list item. And I do not really feel the 4RR needs much power added, but have not put it on the line against anything as yet either. A track day may show the need. To and fro to work it’s a fine commuter. As is the 900RS, just heavy and I do not want to drop it. Ones for fun the other, Let the good times roll!!!
Getting my first bike (GXSR750) this spring and idk anyone who rides in this area(Shelby Township) I’m down to ride if you are brother just lmk
Compared to parallel twins inline 4s sound really great and are super smooth down low but the lack of torque in the low/mid range is a pain in the ass indeed.
@@irishtrash5 I have a Z900RS cafe and a 2013 Monster 796 with mivv exhaust...best of both worlds lol
Z900RS is smooth, refined, and gentlemanly; the Ducati is the opposite: unpredictable, bouncy, burns my legs and rowdy
I do want to try out a Street Triple or a V4 next
This is coming from a new to the community, Daily Driver of a ZX4RR:
The price point IS a deal breaker for most yes. And I understand that most people just getting into bikes are below my age, though I’m still in my 20s. Not everyone can afford it, but I lean towards the ZX4RR as a great beginner bike because it can be your one and done.
Doing the math, I’d spend more money over time buying a bike I know I wouldn’t be 100% content with, and then upgrading to another bike later down the line.
I personally didn’t like the sound of a dirt bike (lawnmower haha) so twin engines were not my first option.
The ZX4R is smoother because of the 4 cylinders, and it’s beautiful because it’s heavier so you don’t get tossed around in the wind going highway speeds. Also, it’s nerfed for the American market because of regulations (sound and smog) not because Kawasaki decided it for the Shizz and Giggles.
But you can pound through all the gears and still have fun, vs my guys on 600s that can’t go full beans before reaching even 4th gear.
You learn to shift on more gears, you learn weight and resistance, if it scares you, ride in rain mode, then go to road and sport after.
It’s a 400 so insurance was dirt cheap, and when you really become adept and you’re ready for more Power, you can flash and tune it, and you have ‘another’ bike. Kind of like 2 bikes in 1.
It’s the best Daily one can have because there’s so much involved, but as a first time bike rider, this being my very first bike; It might be my last to be honest. It’s faster than you’d ever need (why want to go 180mph + ?), I can keep up with cruise meets very easily, it’s very ergonomic so you can ride for hours without tired arms or back, and it can be everything you want it to be. Has hooks on the bumper and frame so you literally can physically tie down backpacks/duffel bags for traveling or long journeys (something I’ve only ever seen one TH-camr talk about)
What more could you want?
The ZX4R is perfect because it’s fast enough for more than you’ll ever need, at mid triple digit speeds it’ll hesitate to let you know if that’s what you REALLY want to do, slow enough that you can bang 6 gears at 45 mph for a nice afternoon cruise, comfortable, and forgiving.
The ZX4RR is perfect.
I'm thinking you are making very valid points here. Actually just the insurance alone will probably get you your original money back in the long run vs if you buy a 600cc or bigger bike.
@@Rx37Legacy Insurance is pricey... I'll probably self insure pretty soon just because its such a ripoff. I could chain 3x brand new Harley's (with 121 HP each) like to a chariot or something wild riding down the road and its still cheaper to insure that than my 600 sportbike!
Excellent write-up. My thoughts exactly.
I love to take a look at one when they get here (Norway) and compare it to my Ninja 400.
It would be perfect maybe about 2k less. It’s not remotely marketable in the beginner bike class. It’s a niche machine that doesn’t really outperform a bike at half the cost. Most will not keep their first bike. This is evermore true in the US.
I’ll use 2 points you make.
Shifts are not dictated by the cylinder count. The comment about it shifts smoother because of it having 4 cylinders just isn’t true and is dependent on ton of mechanical factors. Gearing is a big one because the N400 enters its powerband at lower rpm. If you’ve ever ridden or drove any manual vehicle with lower gearing, you know what this means. It equates to a learning curve for smooth shifts. The term “short gears” comes to mind.
The rr weighs barely nothing over the N400. It may feel more stable since it’s not gonna vibrate you put into the universe due to being an I4. I’ll concur that the upgrade to the bike itself may lend a hand in some but, not for double the price.
I’ll say that due to its design it’s more city street able than many 600’s, as they can be appear guttless at low speeds and rpm. Which can make them a bore in low speed city areas
I bought my first bike last week. Gently used Ninja 400 KRT w/ ABS. Yammy nails it with his description and recommendation for first timers like me.
As an owner of a ZX4RR and a CBR500R plus 13 other bikes …. Mostly other peoples projects I have bought…. I completely agree with Yammie 😅 I love the ZX4RR and I will tune it one day but for now it good while the warranty is valid. She will pass my CBR500 like it’s standing still. 😅
I think we're missing the point of the ZX4RR. I will admit the American market de-tune is annoying and puts folks that love the concept, like me, on the defensive. BUT, to understand the bike you have to compare the twin 400 to the zx4RR properly tuned at ~75hp. It's a perfect jump from my current CBR500R on my way to something more. I'm in my mid 30s and just getting into riding the past few years. I really want a 4 cyl RR type bike, but I don't want a 115hp 600cc race replica after my simple 500 twin. The ZX4RR's I-4 engine is a perfect step on the way to I-4 600cc's for us that want to take our progression slowly. I used to look at bikes like this offered overseas and I was always curious. I think other riders like me exist in the US more and more.
With throttle control the 4RR will pull plenty well enough, want more, shift down and work your way back through the gears
I would say ur overthinking it. The zx6 will make less torque than the 500 throughout the rev range of the 500, but then it will start to grow power all the way out and it will keep u excited for a while, where i think the 4rr will b underwhelming after a few miles. U need to ride it hard to keep up w the 500 whereas w the 6r u dont. And when the 6 starts to excite ur butterflies u just close the throttle a little and ull b right as rain. But its ur choice, ride smart stay safe
I'm not missing the point, but these "journalists" really hate this bike. Btw drinking game over how many times this guy retracts and extends his phallus.
Honestly yeah, what I really want to eventually get it something like a bike equivalent of an S2000. Something that isn't necessary insanely powerful, but has a fun, high revving engine, and takes corners really well and generally is sporty
@@dankblissey6162 I can see that comparison. I went from an Integra GS-R to a 240SX with a too-big for me turbo. That jump in power/skill is why I'm a bit careful now that I'm older. I could've wrecked or gotten hurt. I still have my cbr500R and decided I wanted to finish my 10K mile goal before I make a decision. I have a track day event coming up later in the summer. I'd rather just get seat time in the bike I have. I'm just not as quick at this as driving. Maybe I'll never go bigger, and I'm okay with that.
It isn't just about beginner riders and/or track days. I have been riding for over 20 years. In my jurisdiction, mandatory insurance on anything over 400 cc is stupid expensive (even if it's an A2 compliant rebel or something - doesn't matter - a Rebel 500 will cost the same to insure as a GSXR750, but a ZX4RR will cost the same as a 150 cc scooter). So I am riding a z400 (same bike as the ninja 400, less fairings). I love that little bike, and it gives up nothing to the larger bikes when we're out in the twisties. It's just a great bonus that It's already paid for itself vs what I used to pay to insure my VFR. But the extra power, ride modes, etc. of the ZX4RR calls to me - I have a deposit on a 2024. Sucks that you have to get 'em flashed to get the power it's supposed to have, but at least that option is available..
you have one life whatre you gonna spend it worrying about insurance
Ninja 400 is the best choice for most riders and those who would appreciate the RR probably already know that's what they want! I keep hoping my favorite Chinese Motorcycle company Kove will start selling Bikes here which would give us a 70hp 4 cylinder supersport that weighs closer to and costs about the same as the Ninja but if we can't even get Honda Hornets here I'm not going to hold my breath.
Cfmoto makes pretty decent sport bikes actually.
Thanks for your consistently balanced, wise and informed perspectives on motorbikes. A beacon of clarity.
@Fortnine did a video that very well explains why the ZX4RR is tuned how it is for the north american market. Boils down to tailpipe emissions and noise regulations. If it is tuned up the bigger explosions at the same insane frequency mean a higher internal engine temp that ends up producing more bad emissions and (because bigger boom) more noise. I love how it sounds stock and really doubt the "need" for more power but I'm just a freak that likes small bikes anyway
I’ve had a 400 for 3 years now. At first I wanted more power coming from a CBR 600 that my buddy crashed. Honestly Yeah sure it’s cool to go fast in a straight line but I found what’s even better is being able to twist the throttle on this little 400 and throw it around like a toy which is what it is. My riding has improved I’ve learned how to lean and hug the tank with my leg. For 6k it’s the better package. Why spend 10k on something that’s so similar to the 4 but not as much fun? At that point might as well go the extra 2 for 600.
Yammie, there’s no way you put the 400 on the left, but your list has the ZX4RR on the left 😂 consistency!
Thinking back 30 years or so most definitely was the golden age of small capacity sports bikes, but I have to admit the choice is much better now for the more practical small sporty bikes.
I'm doing a return to motorcycles after several years. My Ninja 400 makes me IMPOSSIBLY happy. Yes, it lacks power (which you wouldn't really be getting with the RR either, not without that flash anyway...), but the thing is FUN to ride around! Very very light and agile, comfortable position, the sound has nothing on a bike with a good pipe... but to be honest, it's not bad, at WOT above 8000 it sounds pretty nice actually. Also the gearing makes it super fun, you can accelerate like a madman in first and second... and you're still at legal-ish speeds. If you were to just gun the first on a 1000 SS, you'd kill somebody XD
I'm sure the RR is even more fun... but to be honest, the Ninja 400 is ENOUGH. If the price difference was slim, I'd say go for the RR. But given this price tag... I might get a Ninja 650 instead of the 400RR. The registration cost of a 650 is more though... I'd hesitate... In any case, I'm very happy with the Ninja 400. It's not out of the equation that I might put a lighter and breathier exhaust on it at some point to shed a few pounds and maybe gain a couple HPs.
You'd hear the difference several blocks away. Main 2 things why you'd get the zx4rr. Power and sound.
It would be cool if you compared the zx4rr to the 650 since they are in a similar price point.
zx4rr is much more expensive than the Ninja 650
My neighbors will know I own a motorcycle with the ninja 400 but my neighbor's neighbor will know I own a motorcycle with the ZX4R ;)
Nice bike quote
I got a 2015 ninja ex300. I just bought it 2 months ago with only 900 miles on it. I already put 1,000 miles on it!! Happened so fast. Love the 300. I live in Massachusetts so its a lot of city driving. The 300 for city riding is perfect for me. Im very happy with it.
Wifes bike is the ninja 400 boight used for 4500 no miles. Extremely happy with it. Great noises, and from 8-12k rpms it shoots. My xsr700 78hp with mods is about 400 lbs and i still enjoy her 360lb 400cc non tuned
Amazing content as always. Brilliant video. Thank you for this, Yammie 🙏🏽
Totally agree, bro. Simply didn't get any excitement riding the ZX-4R on a test on a track. I simply don't know for whom this bike is for. Beginners that never rode any bike before are crazy and thinking this rides like even the ZX-10R don't - that's crazy! Experienced riders that already got some torque addiction will find nothing on a ZX-4R. But... even though I've never rode a Ninja 400, I've rode the Z-400. Man, what a bike. Loved it. So the 2 cil 400cc and now 500cc Kawa platform really has what one motorcycle lover really looks for on a motorcycle. You nailed it! Best from Brazil, bro. Congrats on your work on this great TH-cam channel.
I love watching these videos even though I'm a cruiser guy and don't know the first thing about sport bikes.
same even though yammie doesnt acknowledge that kawasaki is better than yamaha
@@M16xDr0pSh0tz I ride a Fury, and I love my bike to death. Little biased towards Honda.
I am an experienced rider, I think a zx4rr would be an awesome bike. I like smaller displacement bikes because you get to use all the power on a regular basis, zx4rr seems like the ultimate version of that. My only complaint without ever riding it is weight, that bike should weigh well under 400lbs. 75hp at 16k RPM and 360lbs sounds like a machine that would motivate me to spend 10k.
I love that Yam is reviewing two Kawis whilst wearing a Yamaha Champions Riding School t-shirt!!
It's ridiculously cheap these bikes in USA... almost unbelievable. You could buy them with a month's salary with ease. In my country you'd need about 3 months of work to buy the 400. The ZX would be about 6 months salary. I say this considering an average salary equivalent in both countries.
Yammie they will know the difference. That sound is amazing! I have a Z400 and I do agree at high revs it sounds nice, BUT that 4cyl. sound is amazing! I just don’t want the big power 4cyl.
The zx 4r is one of the few 4 cylinders sportsbikes that you can ride daily because of the ergos. The ducati supersport is another option, but costlier.
I needed this, been wrestling for a few months. The ultimate sellimg point for me is the KQS.
I've ridden many bikes, but when I reviewed the Ninja 400 last year, it simply felt right. I liked it even more than the BMW M 1,000 R and that's because it fit me better. That's what matters more than anything, a bike you feel comfortable on. I've never been a "sport bike" guy, but after experiencing the Ninja 400, I'd love to own one for those days where you want to mount a bike that matches your energy level.
Awesome vid, I know this is silly but next time put the name of the motorcycles on the correct side. On the board the zx4rr is on the left and ninja 400 on the right but the bikes are parked on opposite sides. Just a small thing but would be less confusing for those who cant tell them appart. sick vid!
Another excellent analysis. You really show the little differences between these two beautiful bikes. Your informations and impressions are really useful and are, for me, references for making a good choice between these two bikes. "Always in the green! Thanks a lot!
I see the market for the 400 but not the rr. At that price point buying a 600 is a better option.
Is anyone shocked he hated the zx4rr? Anyone at all. I am not shocked a bit 😬👍🏻
Flashing the ZX4RR to get the full 75hp out of it would void the warranty though, wouldn't it? Also, the frame on the ZX4RR being steel really increased the weight of it. Should've made it aluminum. Hope you can reply to my comment though, would like to hear your thoughts. Thanks man.
Yes it would void. Any telling you that you can just flash it back and they won't know is full of shit. They'll know
Sheesh that RR! Is nice
You’d know the difference between the two from blocks away, loooong before you actually saw it Yam😂
I have been riding for many years. And i have test ridden many bikes including the Ninja 400. Which i really liked. But then only three months ago i bought a 2017 Ducati 939 Supersport with only 2159 km on it for a good price. and i really love it. But in certain situations i love a smaller and lighter bike. Also a bike i can park somewhere without worrying as much about it. And just three days ago i came across a 2020 Ninja 400 for sale. It was first registered in Nov 2021. And looked like new with 288 km on it. At a really good price. And i couldnt resist buying it. On the smaller twisties it is just a joy to ride. And i am no beginner. I love both of my bikes. The Ninja 400 is a really nice bike. It doesnt have much low end power. But has no problem getting up to speed on the small canyons. And you can wip it around and have tons of fun on it.
Im all in for that 4 cylinder sound. I wished the zx4rr was sold in Argentina's market
The more I look at it the slight difference I think I like the look of the 400 a little bit more.
2 important things: 1) the weight: are you confident to do slow traffic moves in the heavier RR? 2) the cheaper bike doesn’t have TRACTION CONTROL that you forgot to mention, means less safe for beginners. So the choice is tough. Maybe 1 more: the RR is more future proof, so you end up losing less money!
Man I want one. I don’t do my motorcycle course until July 28 and 29 then I’ll be licensed and ready
Ninja 400 vs CF 450 ! Next
Australia $15k zx4rr 40th $18k zx6r 40th $10300 500 40th. This is what mine cost and on x2 500 add $2300 delivery from 2 different states as none in mine)
In Australia zx4rr is fully unlocked. What a beast 💪
Zx4rr more expensive and needs extra expense of being flashed and new exhaust out of the box! Wtf
Defund the EPA, arrest the leadership of CARB. If nothing is done then eventually "you will own nothing and you will be happy"
Ya that 9k price tag is basically a lie. I’ll assume all 4rr owners have deep pockets and wipe their ass with silk.
Cottonelle actually
Up the 🇬🇧
@@dbruntz1 😂
Man I cant wait to get the 400 in all white
Thats surprisingly a lot heavier than the old ZXR400 which was 360lb
In my opinion it makes no sense to buy the ZX4RR unless you just want to waste your money and look cool. The ninja 400 is such a superior and versatile motorcycle that comes at such a great value/price. I don't know of much motorcycles that can give you the value, performance, and ergonomics as the ninja 400. I bought mine last year brand new for less than $6K after taxes and registration, you can't beat that. The thing about this motorcycle is it can be used in so many different ways. It can be a starter bike or a performance racer. It can be a commuter to work or fun yet exciting work horse. I've mainly used mine for commuting and it hasn't failed or given me any issues yet. It just makes no sense to buy the ZX4RR at that price point, there are far better motorcycles at a better price point. You can pretty much buy two ninja 400s for the price of the ZX4RR.
I disagree ….getting the 4RR is the way to go …learn on it then get it flash after… no need to upgrade.. the perfect motorcycle.. flash cost let’s say $400
To upgrade to a new motorcycle let’s say $12,000
Ninja 400 is like $6,000
So yes 4RR for me
$400 extra to void the factory warranty
zx4rr is just a meme bike. It will maybe be collectable some day, but I just don't understand why I wouldn't get a 600 instead if I wanted a screaming i4. Hell I wouldn't be shocked if the 400 was faster or if not as fast around the track...
600s are a dime a dozen. The ZX-4RR is way more special, even if it isn't any faster.
Reviewing the ninjas while wearing a Yamaha shirt 😂🔥🔥
I have owned both bikes(financed) and honestly the ZX-4RR is way better of a choice. If you're new to riding you can put it in Rain Mode so the power is just like the Ninja 400 and it'll be more comfortable for the rider to learn on. my point is that you have way more room to grow with the ZX-4RR with more power potential and tech. It's worth the money. I think @yammienoob is biased against the price point, financing both bikes is very possible with or without credit.
The ZX4RR definitely does diversify the 300cc class. I’m really intrigued and I just gotta know what it’s about.
For a pro's point of view, its a waste of money. But I think ZX4RR is a better biginner bike. Of course as a pro in racetrack, they don't need ABS, TCS and other stuff that ZX4RR offers. But why not pick a bike with more safety if you can afford it specially if you're goin to use it as a daily bike.
Disappointed that the ZX4RR only has 55hp (not a fond of flashing) while it is heavier and more expensive the 400 and costs almost twice.
Peeps be like buying a $15k bike and flashing it doesn't void warranty. Ya, it's $15k ($9k msrp + markup + tt fees)
What would you buy for a daily bike the new Aprilia 440 or the zx4?
The only point of small displacement bikes is light weight for better handling. Better off with a 600 than the ZX4RR?
Another ZX4RR video and we have a comparison 😅 but they are as different as they are similar 😅
The use of Bespoke is strong with this one.
zx4rr with a flash tune is a great track bike to master handling
Dave Moss was impressed so that says something. He has a video of the ride on his channel.
I think the bike he used was not flashed.
Rode a Ninja 400, I would agree it is a Great beginner bike, but for someone who is used to a super sport bike, it felt like a big moped you can shift, in my humble opinion.
Papa yammie im sure you’re working on it but could we please get a review of the 2024 ZX6R 636. I’m really looking into that bike. Thank you!
There is nothing on the zx4rr that can justify the price difference. even with dbruntz1 saying its more fun. you can get a better bigger cc bike for that price. if you want a 400 then just get the cfmoto 450 ss versus the ninja 400, 450 ss wins
I’d like to see actual wet weights vs manufacturers’s weights.
The ZX4RRR.RR,R is the bet 250 on the market. The 400 is a great little bike.
I got a 650 as my first bike last week
The ZX-4RR is the one to get. Thank me later.
Again thank you for comparimg them
If the 400rr was 20lbs lighter and a grand cheaper i would have one.
Hoping to see the new 2024 zx6r on your channel
Yammie, you would have a lot more respect for the guy on the ZX4RR. You know it. Don't lie.
"If they both wizzed by...."
Yeah, Mr. YN doesn't Love Kawi like we do XD
Wish we could join in your promotions here in the Philippines 😅 Love your reviews, Ride safe always😀👍
Unable to grade any of them but my fantasy is too take any ninja to a long ride one in my life
Can someone explain why ABS is suggesting no ABS? Track bikes don't need ABS?
Yammie noob clearly hates the zx4rr
Honesty I’d rather have the ninja 400. The ZX4 just doesn’t make sense to me.
I just can't see why I would buy a ZX4RR when it's price point is on par with bikes that are just objectively better. For instance, a Triumph Street Triple R, Yamaha MT-09/XSR900, Aprilia Tuono 660, and Suzuki GSX-8S costs about the same (give or take 1k), and they are a vastly better bike in every metric aside from the subjectives like looks and "soul".
"Better" is a subjective tern. I'd rather have the ZX-4RR than any of those bikes you mentioned.
@@kenfromhawaii1138 explain to me how the ZX4RR is better than any of the bikes listed besides looks or feel. I'll give you a freebie. There's a decent case that it's more reliable.
@@ultimatemassive9501the things you listed are 100+ horse power, often you can't even use that power and it will often sit there unused. Imho the US version of the zx4rr is not worth it, in Europe it makes much more sense. The zx6r is back here but costs 13799 euro vs 10799 euro for the 77hp zx4rr. It's a good balance between power and being able to use it compared to limiting yourself to 25% throttle
@potatoo_69 I see your point, but if usable power is a concern, you might as well spend significantly less and get the Ninja 400. I own a Street Triple 765, and its power is very usable. It will get you in trouble quickly if you aren't responsible though.
@@ultimatemassive9501 Yeah the ninja 400 is a better starter bike, I currently own a Ninja 400 and might be upgrading to a zx4rr because it has all the upgrades I seek in a bike whilst not deviating from the thing that I love about the ninja platform.
My friend has the triple 675 r and has indeed crashed due to irresponsible throttle behavior which is a problem with the faster bikes. It requires a ton more skill and discipline but eventually you will grow into it and learn to drive 100hp+ beasts, the zx4rr with the full 77/80hp is a good upgrade bike in-between if you have the money for it. But in its current US state again its not worth it, the zx6r is so close in price and you can just use a different driving mode if you are less skilled.
Why do you remind me of Tyler from SecureTeam10 channel ?? I knew you looked familar haha but yes I want Ninja 500 or now the ZX4RR but I will only have $3k to put down. The day is getting sooner and sooner and I'm excited !!!
Hi Yamie. I have been following you since my college Days. Being An Indian the only available Playform I could have stretched my Money Self earning I do an RC 390 2022 for 9 Months now when I came across your reviews!! You have lots of Indian Fans too. As an admirer of your Experience and connection with Bikes I do request you extend Giveaways in India too. Thanks for your contents and keep revving your success. ❤
I love the zx4rr but not the price might as well spend the extra 3k n get the 636. Zx4rr on the track though dominates over the 636s n the 1000s in the corners and on switch back sections. In the straights the zx4rr is nimble but unlike a 636 or 1000 it lacks on the power band in the top end where the 636s and 1000s can power through the straights and out of turns quicker. Also depends on the rider aswell everyone rides differently and has there own style when riding that suits them.
thanks for the video
If you need to ask why the zx4rr over the ninja 400. Then you should get the ninja 400.
Exactly!
i love the zzr my son wants one, that's the market for 16-year-old because want a parallel twin or one a superbike and sound
Wait I see you at Harris Hill right now. How did this video just come out. 😮😅😮
Another reason why I won't upgrade anything is my 2yr unlimited mileage Kawasaki warranty (I can thrash all day long without worrying literally)
might as well just get a zx6r and put it in low power mode, that would be about the same hp as the flashed zx4. Not to mention parts are gonna be easier to get and cheaper for a zx6.
Might as well get a ZX10 if we're playing that game
Not even close. The low power mode on the 636 basically just flatlines the power above 10 000 rpm. You still get the same pull from 0-9000 rpm, maybe a touch lazier throttle response.
The 636 will still pull like a litre bike compared to the 4r even in rain mode;
@@Stratocasterhead51 Why not just buy an R1 at that point? People who want the ZX-4RR aren't buying it because of the power.
@@kenfromhawaii1138 Is the ZX10 nearly identical price? No... I spent less on my new 6r than yam did for his 4rr. I repeat, I spent LESS (and I'm in a super corrupt state where finding anything even at MSRP is a shocker). It also has more suspension adjustment on the front (3 settings instead of just 1), bigger front disks, and a few other nice things.
I went from 15 HP 250cc (had it since I was 14, which is when I had my license) to the 6r. Put it in low power for a few weeks, and you're golden. It really softens the throttle and makes it easier for smooth low speeds. Its roughly 87 HP max when its in low power, but it feels really tame (in high power with TC it can get rowdy, and optimal speed for power wheelies in 2nd gear seems to be about 65-70 mph and it hovers the front wheel up past 90 mph without a sweat).
If the ZX10r was the same price, I would have just bought that. I've only got 2500 miles on my new 6r, but I do see that I'll probably want even more later on (around here the cops don't even bother chasing if they see you cruising along at 120-140 mph, and the roads are SOOO nice that you can maintain that speed on the sweeping curves and almost start using the sides of the tires but I think there's a decent amount of lean left in it but that's just so buttery smooth going to work or getting some breakfast, and that engine loves to scream even pegged in 6th, when its safe of course).
@@jakegarrett8109 I understand your sentiment getting excited on your 600. See, I already owned a bunch of 600s. 20 years ago. I've been there, done all that already. Owned over 30 motorcycles in my life. Eventually you care less about speed, and more about fun. The ZX-4RR is just as fun as the 1000cc bikes I've ridden in the past on both street and track. For me, price is irrelevant. I want what I want, and I love my ZX-4RR.
in Asia, it is not restricted. It has 79hp max and costs only $9000
It would be nice to see those 2 bikes vs the cf Moto 450 ss on track
You should do a 4rr vs 636 😂
Your the Best and One and Only yammienoob
Guys when you hear a zx4rr on that flash with a exhaust you’ll know why tf North America was like oh hell na that shit will have the dead dancing thriller
I made the correct choice 😎 Thanks 🍠
i think Ninja 400 are for beginner rider or someone who were on budget to have only one cheap bike do it all. and ZX4RR are for people who already habe bigger faster bike in the garage like big adventure or touring and want someting small not so fast but freaking loud and fun for street or track.