Kawasaki Ninja 400 vs ZX4RR (Full Comparison)
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
1:32 Pricing
2:03 Engines
4:28 Weight
5:18 Seat Height & Ergonomics
6:56 Features Rundown
7:17 Brakes
7:50 Frames
8:23 Other Features
9:43 Yam's Opinion (Which to Get) - ตลก
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I bought the zx4rr. It’s a little more than sound. The quick shifter, screen, and potential once flashed make it more fun than a 180 degree parallel twin. 4K is a lot, but you get a really unique bike that’s a ton of fun.
I understand, but at that point why not just go for a 600? Sure it's a lot more power but it also has rider modes which would help especially as a beginner
A 600 is a big jump. I had one before, and it's great. But the 400 can scream down city streets without putting you in trouble. It's for sure a niche buy. But it's worth it to me.
It's a unique bike but ye definitely paying for it. Bought a new XSR 900 instead. Same otd price. The 400 was actually a little more 😂
It comes down to, play in gears 4,5,6; or 1,2,3. Everybody gets to choose. Either way works. Should I ever get a 600, it would be just a track bike.
Gotta agree. I upgraded from the z400 to the ZX-4RR. I got kinda lucky for mine, though. Coworker wanted my z400 and paid a good amount of cash for it. Turned it around to pay for my ZX-4RR and had some leftover.
Me: "I have never wanted a comparison of these two bikes."
Proceeds to watch the whole video.
This. So much this. I don’t know why, but Yamm’s breakdowns hit all my data buttons.
16,000 RPM and 75 horsepower with a flash is absolutely worth 4000 more. A bargain really. I'm a R6 owner and fanatic, And I super duper want that 400 inline four, The only Kawasaki around here is an old jet ski. 🤠
It's restriced to 55bhp in North America due to the US noise regs according to Kawasaki. It wasn't their choice as everywhere else in the world it has the full 75bhp.
Watched pulls with both these bikes, full bolt on Ninja 400 (exhaust, intake, velocity stacks, dyno tune) and exhaust/tuned ZX4RR. The Ninja 400 in a roll took it off the throttle every time, and the ZX4RR didn’t reel it in until about 90 mph on both rolls. At those higher speeds the ZX4RR showed its high RPM/high speed strengths after its been unrestricted… the Ninja is overall extremely impressive for such an inexpensive platform!
So I’ve always been intoxicated by the 4-cylinder scream… but the deeper I dove into the details/dynamics that come with owning a 4-cylinder bike, the more I appreciate riding my Cbr500r on the streets of Detroit.
I have the Z900 RS from Yam and after 8 months in LA and multiple 1000+ mile rides.... I still love the sound, but I also want a v-twin now...
I have a store bought 900RS, bought the 4RR plan to get the hp’s come winter. Signed up for track day and though late in life will fulfill a bucket list item. And I do not really feel the 4RR needs much power added, but have not put it on the line against anything as yet either. A track day may show the need. To and fro to work it’s a fine commuter. As is the 900RS, just heavy and I do not want to drop it. Ones for fun the other, Let the good times roll!!!
Getting my first bike (GXSR750) this spring and idk anyone who rides in this area(Shelby Township) I’m down to ride if you are brother just lmk
Compared to parallel twins inline 4s sound really great and are super smooth down low but the lack of torque in the low/mid range is a pain in the ass indeed.
@@irishtrash5 I have a Z900RS cafe and a 2013 Monster 796 with mivv exhaust...best of both worlds lol
Z900RS is smooth, refined, and gentlemanly; the Ducati is the opposite: unpredictable, bouncy, burns my legs and rowdy
I do want to try out a Street Triple or a V4 next
I'm a returning rider after 30 years. My first bike was an FZR 600. Sweet bike back in the day. I chose the Ninja 400 because of the price point and because I need to relearn how to ride. Believe me, I compared the hell out of these two bikes, and I just could not see a reason to spend the extra cash plus the flash and the exhaust etc. I love my 400, it's awesome and perfect for me. More then likely I'll be trading it in for a bigger bike in a couple of years, or maybe I'll keep it. Only time will tell, but right now, I'm extremely happy with my decision. Oh, I got the black version as well. Ride safe! :)
DOPE!!!! I'm thinking of getting one!!!
Amazing content as always. Brilliant video. Thank you for this, Yammie 🙏🏽
Ninja 400 is the best choice for most riders and those who would appreciate the RR probably already know that's what they want! I keep hoping my favorite Chinese Motorcycle company Kove will start selling Bikes here which would give us a 70hp 4 cylinder supersport that weighs closer to and costs about the same as the Ninja but if we can't even get Honda Hornets here I'm not going to hold my breath.
Cfmoto makes pretty decent sport bikes actually.
Thanks for your consistently balanced, wise and informed perspectives on motorbikes. A beacon of clarity.
This is coming from a new to the community, Daily Driver of a ZX4RR:
The price point IS a deal breaker for most yes. And I understand that most people just getting into bikes are below my age, though I’m still in my 20s. Not everyone can afford it, but I lean towards the ZX4RR as a great beginner bike because it can be your one and done.
Doing the math, I’d spend more money over time buying a bike I know I wouldn’t be 100% content with, and then upgrading to another bike later down the line.
I personally didn’t like the sound of a dirt bike (lawnmower haha) so twin engines were not my first option.
The ZX4R is smoother because of the 4 cylinders, and it’s beautiful because it’s heavier so you don’t get tossed around in the wind going highway speeds. Also, it’s nerfed for the American market because of regulations (sound and smog) not because Kawasaki decided it for the Shizz and Giggles.
But you can pound through all the gears and still have fun, vs my guys on 600s that can’t go full beans before reaching even 4th gear.
You learn to shift on more gears, you learn weight and resistance, if it scares you, ride in rain mode, then go to road and sport after.
It’s a 400 so insurance was dirt cheap, and when you really become adept and you’re ready for more Power, you can flash and tune it, and you have ‘another’ bike. Kind of like 2 bikes in 1.
It’s the best Daily one can have because there’s so much involved, but as a first time bike rider, this being my very first bike; It might be my last to be honest. It’s faster than you’d ever need (why want to go 180mph + ?), I can keep up with cruise meets very easily, it’s very ergonomic so you can ride for hours without tired arms or back, and it can be everything you want it to be. Has hooks on the bumper and frame so you literally can physically tie down backpacks/duffel bags for traveling or long journeys (something I’ve only ever seen one TH-camr talk about)
What more could you want?
The ZX4R is perfect because it’s fast enough for more than you’ll ever need, at mid triple digit speeds it’ll hesitate to let you know if that’s what you REALLY want to do, slow enough that you can bang 6 gears at 45 mph for a nice afternoon cruise, comfortable, and forgiving.
The ZX4RR is perfect.
I'm thinking you are making very valid points here. Actually just the insurance alone will probably get you your original money back in the long run vs if you buy a 600cc or bigger bike.
@@Rx37Legacy Insurance is pricey... I'll probably self insure pretty soon just because its such a ripoff. I could chain 3x brand new Harley's (with 121 HP each) like to a chariot or something wild riding down the road and its still cheaper to insure that than my 600 sportbike!
Excellent write-up. My thoughts exactly.
I love to take a look at one when they get here (Norway) and compare it to my Ninja 400.
Another excellent analysis. You really show the little differences between these two beautiful bikes. Your informations and impressions are really useful and are, for me, references for making a good choice between these two bikes. "Always in the green! Thanks a lot!
As an owner of a ZX4RR and a CBR500R plus 13 other bikes …. Mostly other peoples projects I have bought…. I completely agree with Yammie 😅 I love the ZX4RR and I will tune it one day but for now it good while the warranty is valid. She will pass my CBR500 like it’s standing still. 😅
My neighbors will know I own a motorcycle with the ninja 400 but my neighbor's neighbor will know I own a motorcycle with the ZX4R ;)
I bought my first bike last week. Gently used Ninja 400 KRT w/ ABS. Yammy nails it with his description and recommendation for first timers like me.
I think we're missing the point of the ZX4RR. I will admit the American market de-tune is annoying and puts folks that love the concept, like me, on the defensive. BUT, to understand the bike you have to compare the twin 400 to the zx4RR properly tuned at ~75hp. It's a perfect jump from my current CBR500R on my way to something more. I'm in my mid 30s and just getting into riding the past few years. I really want a 4 cyl RR type bike, but I don't want a 115hp 600cc race replica after my simple 500 twin. The ZX4RR's I-4 engine is a perfect step on the way to I-4 600cc's for us that want to take our progression slowly. I used to look at bikes like this offered overseas and I was always curious. I think other riders like me exist in the US more and more.
With throttle control the 4RR will pull plenty well enough, want more, shift down and work your way back through the gears
I would say ur overthinking it. The zx6 will make less torque than the 500 throughout the rev range of the 500, but then it will start to grow power all the way out and it will keep u excited for a while, where i think the 4rr will b underwhelming after a few miles. U need to ride it hard to keep up w the 500 whereas w the 6r u dont. And when the 6 starts to excite ur butterflies u just close the throttle a little and ull b right as rain. But its ur choice, ride smart stay safe
I'm not missing the point, but these "journalists" really hate this bike. Btw drinking game over how many times this guy retracts and extends his phallus.
Honestly yeah, what I really want to eventually get it something like a bike equivalent of an S2000. Something that isn't necessary insanely powerful, but has a fun, high revving engine, and takes corners really well and generally is sporty
@@dankblissey6162 I can see that comparison. I went from an Integra GS-R to a 240SX with a too-big for me turbo. That jump in power/skill is why I'm a bit careful now that I'm older. I could've wrecked or gotten hurt. I still have my cbr500R and decided I wanted to finish my 10K mile goal before I make a decision. I have a track day event coming up later in the summer. I'd rather just get seat time in the bike I have. I'm just not as quick at this as driving. Maybe I'll never go bigger, and I'm okay with that.
@Fortnine did a video that very well explains why the ZX4RR is tuned how it is for the north american market. Boils down to tailpipe emissions and noise regulations. If it is tuned up the bigger explosions at the same insane frequency mean a higher internal engine temp that ends up producing more bad emissions and (because bigger boom) more noise. I love how it sounds stock and really doubt the "need" for more power but I'm just a freak that likes small bikes anyway
Thinking back 30 years or so most definitely was the golden age of small capacity sports bikes, but I have to admit the choice is much better now for the more practical small sporty bikes.
Wifes bike is the ninja 400 boight used for 4500 no miles. Extremely happy with it. Great noises, and from 8-12k rpms it shoots. My xsr700 78hp with mods is about 400 lbs and i still enjoy her 360lb 400cc non tuned
It isn't just about beginner riders and/or track days. I have been riding for over 20 years. In my jurisdiction, mandatory insurance on anything over 400 cc is stupid expensive (even if it's an A2 compliant rebel or something - doesn't matter - a Rebel 500 will cost the same to insure as a GSXR750, but a ZX4RR will cost the same as a 150 cc scooter). So I am riding a z400 (same bike as the ninja 400, less fairings). I love that little bike, and it gives up nothing to the larger bikes when we're out in the twisties. It's just a great bonus that It's already paid for itself vs what I used to pay to insure my VFR. But the extra power, ride modes, etc. of the ZX4RR calls to me - I have a deposit on a 2024. Sucks that you have to get 'em flashed to get the power it's supposed to have, but at least that option is available..
you have one life whatre you gonna spend it worrying about insurance
I'm doing a return to motorcycles after several years. My Ninja 400 makes me IMPOSSIBLY happy. Yes, it lacks power (which you wouldn't really be getting with the RR either, not without that flash anyway...), but the thing is FUN to ride around! Very very light and agile, comfortable position, the sound has nothing on a bike with a good pipe... but to be honest, it's not bad, at WOT above 8000 it sounds pretty nice actually. Also the gearing makes it super fun, you can accelerate like a madman in first and second... and you're still at legal-ish speeds. If you were to just gun the first on a 1000 SS, you'd kill somebody XD
I'm sure the RR is even more fun... but to be honest, the Ninja 400 is ENOUGH. If the price difference was slim, I'd say go for the RR. But given this price tag... I might get a Ninja 650 instead of the 400RR. The registration cost of a 650 is more though... I'd hesitate... In any case, I'm very happy with the Ninja 400. It's not out of the equation that I might put a lighter and breathier exhaust on it at some point to shed a few pounds and maybe gain a couple HPs.
Again thank you for comparimg them
Yammie they will know the difference. That sound is amazing! I have a Z400 and I do agree at high revs it sounds nice, BUT that 4cyl. sound is amazing! I just don’t want the big power 4cyl.
Yammie, there’s no way you put the 400 on the left, but your list has the ZX4RR on the left 😂 consistency!
It would be cool if you compared the zx4rr to the 650 since they are in a similar price point.
zx4rr is much more expensive than the Ninja 650
I love watching these videos even though I'm a cruiser guy and don't know the first thing about sport bikes.
same even though yammie doesnt acknowledge that kawasaki is better than yamaha
@@M16xDr0pSh0tz I ride a Fury, and I love my bike to death. Little biased towards Honda.
I’ve had a 400 for 3 years now. At first I wanted more power coming from a CBR 600 that my buddy crashed. Honestly Yeah sure it’s cool to go fast in a straight line but I found what’s even better is being able to twist the throttle on this little 400 and throw it around like a toy which is what it is. My riding has improved I’ve learned how to lean and hug the tank with my leg. For 6k it’s the better package. Why spend 10k on something that’s so similar to the 4 but not as much fun? At that point might as well go the extra 2 for 600.
I have been riding for many years. And i have test ridden many bikes including the Ninja 400. Which i really liked. But then only three months ago i bought a 2017 Ducati 939 Supersport with only 2159 km on it for a good price. and i really love it. But in certain situations i love a smaller and lighter bike. Also a bike i can park somewhere without worrying as much about it. And just three days ago i came across a 2020 Ninja 400 for sale. It was first registered in Nov 2021. And looked like new with 288 km on it. At a really good price. And i couldnt resist buying it. On the smaller twisties it is just a joy to ride. And i am no beginner. I love both of my bikes. The Ninja 400 is a really nice bike. It doesnt have much low end power. But has no problem getting up to speed on the small canyons. And you can wip it around and have tons of fun on it.
I love that Yam is reviewing two Kawis whilst wearing a Yamaha Champions Riding School t-shirt!!
Honestly, the ZX-4RR is more comparable to kawasaki 650s when it comes to output at least. My brother and I ride together all the time. My ZX-4RR can finally keep up with his Z650. He loves riding my bike too.
Awesome vid, I know this is silly but next time put the name of the motorcycles on the correct side. On the board the zx4rr is on the left and ninja 400 on the right but the bikes are parked on opposite sides. Just a small thing but would be less confusing for those who cant tell them appart. sick vid!
Sheesh that RR! Is nice
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Your the Best and One and Only yammienoob
The zx 4r is one of the few 4 cylinders sportsbikes that you can ride daily because of the ergos. The ducati supersport is another option, but costlier.
I got a 2015 ninja ex300. I just bought it 2 months ago with only 900 miles on it. I already put 1,000 miles on it!! Happened so fast. Love the 300. I live in Massachusetts so its a lot of city driving. The 300 for city riding is perfect for me. Im very happy with it.
Papa yammie im sure you’re working on it but could we please get a review of the 2024 ZX6R 636. I’m really looking into that bike. Thank you!
You’d know the difference between the two from blocks away, loooong before you actually saw it Yam😂
It's ridiculously cheap these bikes in USA... almost unbelievable. You could buy them with a month's salary with ease. In my country you'd need about 3 months of work to buy the 400. The ZX would be about 6 months salary. I say this considering an average salary equivalent in both countries.
Is anyone shocked he hated the zx4rr? Anyone at all. I am not shocked a bit 😬👍🏻
I needed this, been wrestling for a few months. The ultimate sellimg point for me is the KQS.
Man I want one. I don’t do my motorcycle course until July 28 and 29 then I’ll be licensed and ready
What would you buy for a daily bike the new Aprilia 440 or the zx4?
You'd hear the difference several blocks away. Main 2 things why you'd get the zx4rr. Power and sound.
The more I look at it the slight difference I think I like the look of the 400 a little bit more.
Man I cant wait to get the 400 in all white
Im all in for that 4 cylinder sound. I wished the zx4rr was sold in Argentina's market
Ninja 400 vs CF 450 ! Next
I really want to see more videos on the cfmoto 450ss
Flashing the ZX4RR to get the full 75hp out of it would void the warranty though, wouldn't it? Also, the frame on the ZX4RR being steel really increased the weight of it. Should've made it aluminum. Hope you can reply to my comment though, would like to hear your thoughts. Thanks man.
Yes it would void. Any telling you that you can just flash it back and they won't know is full of shit. They'll know
I am an experienced rider, I think a zx4rr would be an awesome bike. I like smaller displacement bikes because you get to use all the power on a regular basis, zx4rr seems like the ultimate version of that. My only complaint without ever riding it is weight, that bike should weigh well under 400lbs. 75hp at 16k RPM and 360lbs sounds like a machine that would motivate me to spend 10k.
The only point of small displacement bikes is light weight for better handling. Better off with a 600 than the ZX4RR?
Had a feeling you would do this video lol
Wait I see you at Harris Hill right now. How did this video just come out. 😮😅😮
What's your height Yammie? pretty curious before buying the zx4rr since it is out of stock in any shop near me, would like to know
Reviewing the ninjas while wearing a Yamaha shirt 😂🔥🔥
I'm looking into getting a Ninja 400 next spring for fun and for my hour commute to work. It's mainly highway speeds 55-65 mph speed limits. Would it be better to get the zx4rr over the ninja 400 for a mainly highway commute or should I stick with the Ninja 400. P.s im a brand new rider still havent taking the course yet but planning on it soon.
Cool
I've ridden many bikes, but when I reviewed the Ninja 400 last year, it simply felt right. I liked it even more than the BMW M 1,000 R and that's because it fit me better. That's what matters more than anything, a bike you feel comfortable on. I've never been a "sport bike" guy, but after experiencing the Ninja 400, I'd love to own one for those days where you want to mount a bike that matches your energy level.
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Thats surprisingly a lot heavier than the old ZXR400 which was 360lb
It would be nice to see those 2 bikes vs the cf Moto 450 ss on track
The ZX4RR definitely does diversify the 300cc class. I’m really intrigued and I just gotta know what it’s about.
I’d like to see actual wet weights vs manufacturers’s weights.
I got a 650 as my first bike last week
Nice
@yammienoob do a detailed comparison between CFMOTO 450SR and Kawasaki Ninja 400 pleaseeeeee
You should do a 4rr vs 636 😂
The use of Bespoke is strong with this one.
zx4rr with a flash tune is a great track bike to master handling
Dave Moss was impressed so that says something. He has a video of the ride on his channel.
I think the bike he used was not flashed.
I'll just buy which either green is available first because right now zx4 is sold out and ninja 400 is only available in black. And I'm really confused by both if which to get. Should I save more money or should I get that screaming sound. it would take me at least 7 months to save 10k
Both of em are sick as fk
Hello, I am writing to ask for advice. I want to buy a motorcycle to go to work from one city to another for a distance of 90 miles (sometimes 120 miles because I work in different cities) on motorways with a speed limit of 70 miles. And I want to understand which bike suits me best for daily trips (5-6 days a week) for such a distance. The manufacturer doesn't matter.
Love the 400
Why do you remind me of Tyler from SecureTeam10 channel ?? I knew you looked familar haha but yes I want Ninja 500 or now the ZX4RR but I will only have $3k to put down. The day is getting sooner and sooner and I'm excited !!!
Exactly the video i was hoping for as soon as i seen you doing it i know id get the answers i wanted. I am a small guy at 5'3....i use to have have a ninja 400 and wondered if id be able to transition to this one. id put some soupys on it for sure but this bike would likely be at my height limit id think lol.... LOVE the 40th anniversary colour!! if i get a bike again that would be the one i want if ki could fit on er ok!
When will you choose who gets the ninja 400?
Big fan from Bangladesh bro❤️
Another ZX4RR video and we have a comparison 😅 but they are as different as they are similar 😅
"If they both wizzed by...."
Yeah, Mr. YN doesn't Love Kawi like we do XD
The H2 peeking from behind the ZX4RR at 3:25 👺👺👺
Thank you for being objective.
Why the hell did you put the ninja on the left and 4rr on the right but have it backwards on the white board?
I see the market for the 400 but not the rr. At that price point buying a 600 is a better option.
Yammie, put more tire options on your online store.
how tall are you? I'm 6'1, do you think 4RR seat height is high enough?
So between the R3, KTM 390 RC and Ninja 400 (and maybe CFMoto 450?) which would be best suited for a beginner rider?
Actually asking for a friend, to be able to discuss the options when he get into riding.
im going for the 2023 KTM RC 390 as my first bike.
Just buy my insurance company, the naked bike wins! Less down the line expense
Definitely the KTM or Ninja 400. I have a 23 ninja 400 and this thing is the perfect beginner bike, super lightweight, comfortable riding position IMO more than all those other options listed.
KTM has too many maintenance issues. My first was an R3, it's pretty and reliable. You are going to replace it anyways and everyone has a Ninja 400. After moving to big bikes the speed difference between an R3 and a Ninja 400 will be like people arguing about how much faster their cheap jdm car is than another while you drive a Ferrari. It's irrelevant.
I made the correct choice 😎 Thanks 🍠
I am between 400 and 500se. Ikik 500 is almost the same as 400, but I just like the look and with se I get some extra things, while the price is just 400-500 more than 400.
So Yam, klx300 dual sport or ninja 400
Do you have a shop located somewhere
Can someone explain why ABS is suggesting no ABS? Track bikes don't need ABS?
I’m looking to do my bike test and debating on these. I had 4 years experience on a125 Kmx
That KMX is one beautiful little devil.
@@zombiemachinery4868 I wish I never sold it
Yam you should compare the zx4rr to the rs660
Idk it may sound dumb but one big reason I might not get a zx4rr is because it looks so similar to a ninja 400 like too similar
how can recomment parallel twin instead of linkne 4 ?? ehat kind of review is this ?? ehat kind of recomendation is this ??
Unable to grade any of them but my fantasy is too take any ninja to a long ride one in my life
The ZX-4RR is the one to get. Thank me later.
Wouldn't a better comparison be the Yamaha XSR900 versus the Kawasaki ZX4RR? Same price, about, and so what do you get for your money?
Yamaha R7 is a better comparison. Price is (MSRP) $9,199 for the R7 and $9,699 for the ZX4RR. The ZX4RR has some nicer bits on it vs the R7, when both are tuned hp figures are very similar. R7 obviously has a major torque advantage, where I would assume the ZX4RR will do better at higher speeds once it’s wound to the pin. The XSR900 is $10,199, so the ZX4RR is priced right in between them…
@@sleeper.simulant7327 I'm curious which of those three bikes would get around racetracks faster.
Why not compare the Yamaha XSR900 against the Kawasaki Z900 instead? (apples to apples)
@@langhamp8912 I would presume the ZX4RR or the XSR 900. The ZX4RR has a better frame then the R7, the new XSR frame is superbike derived… also depends on the track.
i love the zzr my son wants one, that's the market for 16-year-old because want a parallel twin or one a superbike and sound