@@kathrynharmerfox1865 he says it himself, there is actually no us, we are not who we think we are, we are not who we feel we are , we are not our bodies, essentially we are infinite beings existing within seals… anything psychological is up for interpretation to varying degrees… nothing is as it seems in this world yet we can create all sorts of belief structures and find patterns everywhere yet never perceive what it actually true. Check out Donald Hoffman or a realty bender like myself.
The female who gave birth to me used to have sex in front of me and her other children. She didn’t care. She was as loud as posible. Never felt shame. That made me disgusted of her, I could never kiss her or hug that woman. We once confronted her, told her how violent that was and she felt no regrets, her reply was: I was having sex with my boyfriend, nothing wrong with that because he was my boyfriend not a stranger. It was disturbing to all of us being in the same room listening to that all night and waking up to go school after that. The next day she didn’t shower and have a smile on her face all day. Her spirit felt light. A total psychopath. I’m now 10 years free of that devil female and never once have ever missed that piece of shit.
That was a form of sexual abuse. I’m so sorry this happened you. I can’t imagine the sexual trauma and trauma that caused. Congratulations on 10 years! 🫶🏻❤️🌷
so it's so traumatic. I heard my parents making out in bed several times and it was disgusting. I am very sorry that you watched this and heard it openly from your mother. my mother is also a narcissist.
My mother used to be loud during sex as well when I was a kid.. To stop it I would send the cat in then the terrier dog Hillary turn the dog would run under the bed and bark.! 😂
@@alejandrabonita8355 I’m so sorry 😞. We would have never dare. She was extremely violent. We used to get punish with light cables and any object on her way. We were always bruce all over.
Incredible description of the narcissist as a black hole, with the false self being a plug-in with the internal objects swirling around right outside of it. The effects on the intimate partner are so well described in his videos. When I left a long-term relationship with one, I went to Alanon and spoke about how I felt like somehow I had disappeared. And I thought it was all my fault that I disappeared. When I initially wanted him back after being discarded, I actually apologized to him for having disappeared. That sickens me now. He died a few months ago, and my fantasies about what the relationship used to be died as well. Unfortunately, when I think about him, I mostly feel revulsion. I know I should have compassion for the fact that somebody ruined him when he was young. Maybe someday I will get there. Yes, I have codependent tendencies, but I had never felt like I had had the life sucked out of me before. And the professor describes perfectly in another video What happens to the covert narcissist when he drinks. His false self changed from seeming vulnerable, to being arrogant, obnoxious, and entitled. The grandiosity which was always there became glaring and more emotionally violent. So grateful Sam has chosen to use his intellect for a higher purpose. I also find his accent and choice of words melodic and beautiful, even when speaking about such stark topics.
Every video of yours is an eye opener to a world I never knew existed. It's great that you can laugh and share these terrible facts so consistently. Your videos are an immense help Professor. Thank you for all your efforts in helping us understand what a dangerous person the Narcissist is.
Thank you Professor Vaknin. As usual more informative and educational content. All in all, all contents are very much aligned with no controversy , more like organized on the same continuum. On the other hand, Ms. Eve is very well educated on the subject. That made the discussion go more in depth and interesting.
We as humans like people who will tell us what we want to hear. A true person does not claim innocent but they know who they are and would not make others feel bad for the life they choose.
Always great to listen to Sam and this conversation with Eve was really good (been listening since 2013) i learned soo much, such valuable knowledge, and very reckognisible with my experiences.
OMG "i dont love your father, you're my real love" and i could not STAND the woman who bought and scape goated me called me "her reason for living" if i offed my self id be doomed to a hex worse then the life i was living, to be born again and bought into their home. The only escape was to survive- to Renter en Soi- reenter the self- my favorite Japanese band (because i would listen to foreign music so i could hear my feelings and not be judged for nor being -her- child )i literally had to become an alien in the house as a child to get the courage to escape fully ASAP as an adult. Im 33 and she is still finding her way into my credit score. My ultimate "sucess" was social suic- I've moved 6 hours away so i cant be tempted because i always knew she would financially abuse me because she wouldof returned me to Nordstrom if she could so she made me foot HER ego's bill. I did not want art college. I saw what was going on. I wanted out of her oppressive House.
What a lovely talk I enjoy Sams content more and more as I dive deep into this psychology stuff after meeting a borderline female and becoming entangled with her haha.
I was transsexual back in the late 90s early 2k, and pretty much we were mostly unified. There wasn't all this fragmentation of different communities and infighting that we have to today since activism started and caused these problems (and worse). Am still generally supportive, but dislike some of what I see these days. This video helped make so much sense of that. Great discussion! Thanks!
Love Your videos - and i really empatize with Your vision on topic:D - and have to say - Eve is very beauty looking woman. :D And people also hav to be carefully esp when they put others needs above theirs owns, they tend to give much investemnts but sometimes forget about that self needs are same important as others and have right to treat own needs on the same level as others and the other way also.
"Pregnant women" was not incorrect in the way Sam was using the term. The fact that a publisher insisted he change it is symptomatic of the very trouble these two were discussing. Language must be considered in its context, and with logic. I have downloaded a copy of Society of the Spectacle. Thank you.
Ohhhh dear . I need help . My current husband is a narcissist . Overt . I was married to a covert for 20 years . 6 children later .. now this overt is driving me nuts . It’s allll about him . I’m exhausted . He won’t work . I was alone for several years before this one and was happy .. what did I do ?? Ohh my land .. heeellppppp
Does anyone know the name of the book Vaknin refers to at 1hr23mins in which sounds something like 'Society Unexpected'? A relevant book doesn't come up when I try googling that name
Professor Vaknin, out of your wisdom, could you please comment on the fact that the behaviors and reactions of narcissists are so formulaic, almost caricatural? Followers of your channel all recognize the patterns to the tee, but you talk about millions on people from all over the world and all walks of life.
@@samvaknin Hm, yes. But one would think the relationship between the tumor cell and its surroundings is more complex and varied in the human context...
I really want to know what happened when the cam turned off lol. Good talk and lots to look forward too as always :) right I'm off to watch porn and tell twitter how to be healthy. cheers guys
hmmmm If I'm in Las Vagas and I have to bet on the definition of the word woman I think I'm going to go with what the multilingual medical doctor/doctor of psychology/ every thing else says. Eve just because you can converse with Santa about presents doesn't mean you should think that you can argue with Santa about presents. You're outta your league.
I have a hard time understanding Vaknin's insistence on his emptiness and nothingness. He clearly has a level of intelligence, has clear well considered points of view and a great deal of knowledge, has self awareness and even self awareness of such, as detailed by his example and seems to have a good conscience, so surely he assembles this very real self internally and therefore recognises himself as an 'entity'. Or is it that intellectually he can do this but there is a disconnect between that and his emotional state? Is it not just normal to feel pretty much 'empty' without external feedback? If you don't have interactions with others then you are just you alone, yes with experiences and knowledge etc but without any form of stimulation, discussion or comparison with anyone it may as well mean you are nothing. We are social animals and all of our identities are based on our relationships with others are they not? Or am I totally incorrect and am missing the point? Or am I too a narcissist and just feel like the sense of not being anything without others is normal because I am one haha. I find it interesting that Vaknin mentions the limited usefulness of labelling mental conditions, Jung said the same... It definitely seems to me, from personal experience, and from listening to others, both just people and psychologists etc, that people switch psychological states sometimes regularly, sometimes due to external stimulus whether that be just average daily activities or extreme trauma, or even by choice in order to fulfill a job role... I personally think it potentially dangerous and counterproductive to label a person as having any one single psychological condition. The very act of having been labelled will cause a person to act differently, to either want to change themselves to combat their condition or on the other hand to use their condition as an excuse for behaviour. But I'm no psychologist and have had no formal education in the subject so maybe I should look it up. Back to Vaknin... Does he not fit into a new category since realising his condition and taking on his mission and meaningful purpose? Is he still a narcissist really or is he just a man that has learned from past mistakes, that has had some trauma and has found a safe noble purpose, where he knows he won't get hurt the same way again? What would that be called? Is he now more like a borderline? One thing's for sure, we're tricky critters aren't we.
Just from the topic about woman , biological woman and all this . This language is introduced to little kids , and then we wonder why we will need psychotherapy. Our kids will need Vankin therapy on a daily bases . One day all this will backfire .
Every time you discuss these topics, you open the door to understanding just a little wider.
It’s pure rabbit hole in there though, none of this is truth per se.
@@ryansoulcraft2339 What is your level of expertise Ryan, on what study and observation do you base this comment?
@@kathrynharmerfox1865 he says it himself, there is actually no us, we are not who we think we are, we are not who we feel we are , we are not our bodies, essentially we are infinite beings existing within seals… anything psychological is up for interpretation to varying degrees… nothing is as it seems in this world yet we can create all sorts of belief structures and find patterns everywhere yet never perceive what it actually true. Check out Donald Hoffman or a realty bender like myself.
The BRILLIANT Professor Vaknin!!!!
Probably the most impressive and worth listening to interviews online.
The female who gave birth to me used to have sex in front of me and her other children. She didn’t care. She was as loud as posible. Never felt shame. That made me disgusted of her, I could never kiss her or hug that woman. We once confronted her, told her how violent that was and she felt no regrets, her reply was: I was having sex with my boyfriend, nothing wrong with that because he was my boyfriend not a stranger. It was disturbing to all of us being in the same room listening to that all night and waking up to go school after that. The next day she didn’t shower and have a smile on her face all day. Her spirit felt light. A total psychopath. I’m now 10 years free of that devil female and never once have ever missed that piece of shit.
That was a form of sexual abuse. I’m so sorry this happened you. I can’t imagine the sexual trauma and trauma that caused. Congratulations on 10 years! 🫶🏻❤️🌷
so it's so traumatic. I heard my parents making out in bed several times and it was disgusting.
I am very sorry that you watched this and heard it openly from your mother. my mother is also a narcissist.
wow thats pretty traumatic hope you fully recovered mate.
My mother used to be loud during sex as well when I was a kid.. To stop it I would send the cat in then the terrier dog Hillary turn the dog would run under the bed and bark.! 😂
@@alejandrabonita8355 I’m so sorry 😞. We would have never dare. She was extremely violent. We used to get punish with light cables and any object on her way. We were always bruce all over.
Incredible description of the narcissist as a black hole, with the false self being a plug-in with the internal objects swirling around right outside of it. The effects on the intimate partner are so well described in his videos. When I left a long-term relationship with one, I went to Alanon and spoke about how I felt like somehow I had disappeared. And I thought it was all my fault that I disappeared. When I initially wanted him back after being discarded, I actually apologized to him for having disappeared. That sickens me now. He died a few months ago, and my fantasies about what the relationship used to be died as well. Unfortunately, when I think about him, I mostly feel revulsion. I know I should have compassion for the fact that somebody ruined him when he was young. Maybe someday I will get there. Yes, I have codependent tendencies, but I had never felt like I had had the life sucked out of me before. And the professor describes perfectly in another video What happens to the covert narcissist when he drinks. His false self changed from seeming vulnerable, to being arrogant, obnoxious, and entitled. The grandiosity which was always there became glaring and more emotionally violent. So grateful Sam has chosen to use his intellect for a higher purpose. I also find his accent and choice of words melodic and beautiful, even when speaking about such stark topics.
This was excellent, and a great discourse between Eve and Sam. Informative, professional but also informal - really enjoyed it.
Professor Vaknin, thank you.
TH-cam asked me what I think about your comment and I answered that it's relatable and shows appreciation. TH-cam is waching you. 🙂 Now you know.
Every video of yours is an eye opener to a world I never knew existed. It's great that you can laugh and share these terrible facts so consistently. Your videos are an immense help Professor. Thank you for all your efforts in helping us understand what a dangerous person the Narcissist is.
This guy is good..
Thank you Professor Vaknin. As usual more informative and educational content. All in all, all contents are very much aligned with no controversy , more like organized on the same continuum. On the other hand, Ms. Eve is very well educated on the subject. That made the discussion go more in depth and interesting.
Really liked this in depth interview with Eve and many aspects you discuss, thank you.
We as humans like people who will tell us what we want to hear. A true person does not claim innocent but they know who they are and would not make others feel bad for the life they choose.
Yessssssss I so Enjoy the Professor's VOICE!!!
I have dated two narcissist in my life it's soul destroying !
Always great to listen to Sam and this conversation with Eve was really good (been listening since 2013) i learned soo much, such valuable knowledge, and very reckognisible with my experiences.
Phenomenal discussion. I took copious notes as always.
OMG "i dont love your father, you're my real love" and i could not STAND the woman who bought and scape goated me called me "her reason for living" if i offed my self id be doomed to a hex worse then the life i was living, to be born again and bought into their home. The only escape was to survive- to Renter en Soi- reenter the self- my favorite Japanese band (because i would listen to foreign music so i could hear my feelings and not be judged for nor being -her- child )i literally had to become an alien in the house as a child to get the courage to escape fully ASAP as an adult. Im 33 and she is still finding her way into my credit score. My ultimate "sucess" was social suic- I've moved 6 hours away so i cant be tempted because i always knew she would financially abuse me because she wouldof returned me to Nordstrom if she could so she made me foot HER ego's bill. I did not want art college. I saw what was going on. I wanted out of her oppressive House.
Excellent, thank you
I am still looking for Eve Tawfic
Thank you
Sam looks like the older brother of Charlie Sheen when he takes off his glasses.
What a lovely talk I enjoy Sams content more and more as I dive deep into this psychology stuff after meeting a borderline female and becoming entangled with her haha.
She is gorgeous 😍
Yes for sure!
Not a professional look, though.
@@Albatrosspro1 Does not NEED to, but would maybe fit her better...
In any case, we should focus on the content, I think 😉
Eye opening material
I LOVE that Association
The Narcissist, the Fuhrer!!!!!!!!!
I was transsexual back in the late 90s early 2k, and pretty much we were mostly unified. There wasn't all this fragmentation of different communities and infighting that we have to today since activism started and caused these problems (and worse). Am still generally supportive, but dislike some of what I see these days. This video helped make so much sense of that. Great discussion! Thanks!
Quite interesting! But I am super curious what would be defined as healthy because it seems like everything has a degree of pathology to it.
Thank You, both ! Such a reach and vaste dialog! Eye opening on various levels .
I think in fact was with a phycopath and I still love him even though he destroyed me ego wise I think I’m bpd
Dear Prof. Vaknin will we still be able to watch your videos here on TH-cam or will they be taken down? Best wishes!
If there are no additional bogus copyright strikes, I should be able to regain my channel soon.
@@samvaknin Dear Prof. Vaknin, thank you for your reply. I hope it will be resolved soon. Best wishes!
Love Your videos - and i really empatize with Your vision on topic:D - and have to say - Eve is very beauty looking woman. :D
And people also hav to be carefully esp when they put others needs above theirs owns, they tend to give much investemnts but sometimes forget about that self needs are same important as others and have right to treat own needs on the same level as others and the other way also.
"Pregnant women" was not incorrect in the way Sam was using the term. The fact that a publisher insisted he change it is symptomatic of the very trouble these two were discussing. Language must be considered in its context, and with logic.
I have downloaded a copy of Society of the Spectacle. Thank you.
So wise
Ohhhh dear . I need help . My current husband is a narcissist . Overt . I was married to a covert for 20 years . 6 children later .. now this overt is driving me nuts . It’s allll about him . I’m exhausted . He won’t work . I was alone for several years before this one and was happy .. what did I do ?? Ohh my land .. heeellppppp
I have so many questions for both interviewer and guest. Where may I email or send and audio file of my questions? Thank you! Thank you.
"there is very little you can do about it"
Does anyone know the name of the book Vaknin refers to at 1hr23mins in which sounds something like 'Society Unexpected'? A relevant book doesn't come up when I try googling that name
Society of the Spectacle.
Professor Vaknin, out of your wisdom, could you please comment on the fact that the behaviors and reactions of narcissists are so formulaic, almost caricatural? Followers of your channel all recognize the patterns to the tee, but you talk about millions on people from all over the world and all walks of life.
Cancer is the same in every cancer patient.
@@samvaknin Hm, yes. But one would think the relationship between the tumor cell and its surroundings is more complex and varied in the human context...
@@alliegreenwold2631 One would think wrongly.
Wow!!
I really want to know what happened when the cam turned off lol. Good talk and lots to look forward too as always :) right I'm off to watch porn and tell twitter how to be healthy. cheers guys
hmmmm If I'm in Las Vagas and I have to bet on the definition of the word woman I think I'm going to go with what the multilingual medical doctor/doctor of psychology/ every thing else says. Eve just because you can converse with Santa about presents doesn't mean you should think that you can argue with Santa about presents. You're outta your league.
I have a hard time understanding Vaknin's insistence on his emptiness and nothingness. He clearly has a level of intelligence, has clear well considered points of view and a great deal of knowledge, has self awareness and even self awareness of such, as detailed by his example and seems to have a good conscience, so surely he assembles this very real self internally and therefore recognises himself as an 'entity'. Or is it that intellectually he can do this but there is a disconnect between that and his emotional state?
Is it not just normal to feel pretty much 'empty' without external feedback? If you don't have interactions with others then you are just you alone, yes with experiences and knowledge etc but without any form of stimulation, discussion or comparison with anyone it may as well mean you are nothing. We are social animals and all of our identities are based on our relationships with others are they not? Or am I totally incorrect and am missing the point? Or am I too a narcissist and just feel like the sense of not being anything without others is normal because I am one haha.
I find it interesting that Vaknin mentions the limited usefulness of labelling mental conditions, Jung said the same... It definitely seems to me, from personal experience, and from listening to others, both just people and psychologists etc, that people switch psychological states sometimes regularly, sometimes due to external stimulus whether that be just average daily activities or extreme trauma, or even by choice in order to fulfill a job role... I personally think it potentially dangerous and counterproductive to label a person as having any one single psychological condition. The very act of having been labelled will cause a person to act differently, to either want to change themselves to combat their condition or on the other hand to use their condition as an excuse for behaviour. But I'm no psychologist and have had no formal education in the subject so maybe I should look it up.
Back to Vaknin... Does he not fit into a new category since realising his condition and taking on his mission and meaningful purpose? Is he still a narcissist really or is he just a man that has learned from past mistakes, that has had some trauma and has found a safe noble purpose, where he knows he won't get hurt the same way again? What would that be called? Is he now more like a borderline?
One thing's for sure, we're tricky critters aren't we.
Great expression dr. Vaknin- "narcissists rape language", but I think that traditionally this was/is a domain of Gnostics ;)
@@SP-qi8ur in early Christianity gnostic movement was known for changing or giving new meaning to things, concepts etc.
Does Eve have a channel or Instagram???
You asking, for a friend?
@@user936 hehehe. I'm doing "research "
@@gripacademyaikidojiujitsu I had a friend who did that also. I heard he was disappointed.
Just from the topic about woman , biological woman and all this . This language is introduced to little kids , and then we wonder why we will need psychotherapy. Our kids will need Vankin therapy on a daily bases . One day all this will backfire .
Here am I again...
But are you, really 🤔