Ferrari SF-23 - Aerodynamics Analysis and Initial Thoughts
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 มิ.ย. 2024
- At a first glance, the SF-23 may seem to basically be a carryover of last years Ferrari. However, once you start to dig deeper, you realise that so much of it has changed and there are some really interesting aero solutions!
00:00 Introduction
00:45 Front Wing
04:35 Front Suspension
04:55 Mid Floor
06:15 Secret Bypass Duct
12:00 Cooling and Sidepod
14:38 Halo Winglets
15:58 Floor Edge and Diffuser
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Kyle has obviously been up all night trying to get this video out from the sound of the crickets throughout the video 😂
bro looks tired
😅
LMAO I paused the video wondering how crickets or frogs are making noise where I am considering its -10c outside, and then realized what it was.
@@thecheesanator7980 I did exactly the same thing
@@BradPhilpot yes bradders nice to see you here too 😎👌🏾
I quite like the features that they've added for this year, will be interesting to see how it does!
9:10 quite a bit of background noise there
Love your detailed analysis for every car. Would like to see the Williams FW45 analysis next.
Hi Kyle please can you please, make a video about the most accessible CfD sofware that is accessible for people who dont have enough ressource as you did for the Cad software
Thank you for producing yet another excellent review of a 2023 car. I plan to watch the others soon.
One comment about your videos…I typically watch them using the TH-cam app on my AppleTV. When I try to use the UP arrow in order to Like the video, it instead displays the chapters, and there is an instruction that says Press up to view chapters. Other ‘chapterized’ videos do not show this same behavior, so it must be something that you do when you create them. If I can’t reach the Like button, I can’t Like the video.
@@namename3130 bruh shush who tf cares
the secret bypass duct is blowing my mind. Brilliant innovation
I saw the outlet for it during the launch! Was wondering where the air came from. Very sneaky!
As he was explaining it I couldn’t help but think that it could be this generation of cars’ big exploit. If what he said about it pulling up the chassis losses away from the floor is true, then I think it is absolutely genius stuff from Ferrari! I can’t wait to see how it works for them and if anyone else tries a copycat design as the season rolls on.
@@armadillolover99 I'm interested in Mercedes' concept, as I wonder if the vertical cooling inlet does that job of ingesting the dirty airflow
where is it
@@armadillolover99 I'm a Ferrari hardcore fan but I don't think it is such a big exploit from ferrari, I think it's a trick to obtain some airflow efficiency with a big sidepods design tho. I mean other cars as red bull has way smaller designs so they can't and probably wouldn't even needed that bypass inlet.
This way Ferrari can keep their sidepods philosophy without giving up on all the air penetration efficiency.
Even after the W14 intro, still think Ferrari has been the most innovative year over year. But, still haven’t seen the RB19 and all of these cars have a ways to go before Race 1.
Years over year, or literally just this year and last year
not really, mercedes and red bull i would say
I'm not fully convinced merc presented everything that's gonna be on the race car just yet. it looks oddly basic in some areas compared to last year.
@@kantina4765 yup, that's definitely not the car that'll pull up in Bahrain in a little over a week from now lol
@@VColossalV Year over year ie 2022 to 2023.
It will be exciting to hear your opinions on the W14 as well. The top 3 teams obviously have different philosophies. Both the ferrari and Mercedes are beautiful in their own ways and both seem like refinements to their chosen formulas. Here's hoping that improvements to this and the W14 make for a very exciting year.
While I like the black livery i just don’t find the W14 a Beauty, unlike the Ferrari.
I do like that the top 3 teams all go along with their own design philosophies
@@barneyklingenberg4078 well I thinks its mostly in the black livery as well but I find the W14 much more pleasing to the eye to last years. The minimalist pod design last year looked like an organic blob that was shrink wrapped. They improved the aesthetic of the side pod towards the floor and I can actually say it's pretty beautiful too.
I just hope that they have learned their lessons from last year's design and have a title contender on their hands.
So far from what I've seen the lookers from this grid would be the ferrari, the Mercedes and the Aston Martin.
And we haven't even seen the real RB19 car yet!
I love the w13 & w14 the concept Mercedes came up with is just crazy but Ferraris are just gorgeous looking it’s such a beautiful car
@@CHEGTO i Just hope it's fast too
I'm seriously looking forward to seeing how all these cars perform
From the front wing I feel like this is going to end up like 2019 honestly :D
@@MisoElEven sadly I wasn't paying attention to F1 in 2019
The gist was that everyone thought Ferrari would be really good, and merc ended up dominating
Can't wait for the(black)W14 aero breakdown...gonna be awesome
This right here is was makes F1 for me, there are a million series with fantastic competition on the track but none of them have competition between engineers at this level.
It's amazing just how non-intuitive Formula one aerodynamics is! These technical breakdowns are a real resource. I can't thank you enough giving us some ideas of what teams are trying to do
all of bluff body aero-hydro is like that
Discovered this channel last year, before the start of the 2022 season, and quickly subscribed. I follow aero analysis of F1 cars after their unveiling, so as to learn more about their intricacies, from experts who speak different languages (Italian, English, German, French). Although I respect just about all whom I consider to be well-prepared on the subject, Kyle is the most complete and detailed of them all. Always looking forward to your explanations and overviews, Kyle. Thank you very much for your hard work! Now on to the W14...
Especially as he understands the aero way better than most analyst as he did design some of them by himself and understands the aero thinking
After watching the W14 I think the Ferrari is thr best looking car this year. So aggressive and curvy
thank god for a good video about the new Ferrari. Scarb's was a low point last night
Exactly. At least the one who had experience in F1 has a lot of good thoughts.
Yeah I just watched it......not much difference according to him....he obviously was more interested in his video game.
@@mmazz30 he was like that probably because most teams almost copied redbull philosophy. Those teams who copied redbulls concept will probably have a hard time developing their car since it is not their original design. Everything including data analysis will be back to zero.
I don’t rate Scarbs tbh. He doesn’t have the experience Kyle has and the video itself was a few minutes long after a good couple minutes was spent on Windsor’s sponsor. Waste of time watching it tbh. He just trumpeted that Ferrari kept most of the stuff the same as last year. Honestly, I’d have more respect if he said he weren’t interested in covering Ferrari because he doesn’t like them than waste the viewers time with such a half arsed effort.
@@kwl189 It was half arsed wasn’t it. I even had to say to myself wtf is he on about.
Every other tech expert has even said that most of every F1 cars performance is from the floor design.
Everyone last year said Ferrari’s body design was no good…..just shows it’s in the floor that important.
Plus SF has the advantage of reducing its body size as the seasons go on.
Love hearing the crickets and currawongs in the background, sounds of the high country!
Great video Kyle.....Scarbs might need a few tips from you.
Thank you Lee and Rania, very informative and perfectly pitched show. Rania is such a breath of fresh air in her unfiltered and honest style of reporting; please keep doing your great and important work.
Absolutely love watching these, great job.
Thanks again Kyle... There's a lot of ppl talking on the car release fortnight we get but very few are able to do more than really say "that looks cool, should hopefully improve things" and of the few that can take strong educated guesses at what's really at play... You're videos are the ones I wait for... I appreciate this is a busy time for you, ☺️
love these insights, keep up the good work Kyle!
Man you are smashing em out! Cheers for all the content!
Youve been dishing these video out man, appreciate your hard work
Love these proper technical overviews.
Quick turnaround as always, great analysis 🙂
Love your vids, hope we'll get to see vids like this for in season updates as well👍
Love the insights your vids give, keep em coming
Sounds like you have a lot of crickets singing around you in this video. 😄
This is the most exciting car yet! Thanks for the analysis. I do not envy you with all the launches going on at the moment!
Isn't it lovely when people know what they talk about? Thank you Kyle!
These deep dives are great!
Kyles a robot man keep pumping these out they r great
Looked forward to this.
thank you so much for these videos. they're amazing
Really good analysis including some cool details that i haven't even noticed at first. Really curious how this design works out...
Kyle is amazing! You go dude.
Great work. Happy to see this channel active again. Are you going to be covering key updates during testing? I would love to see you put out shorter, but more frequent content
Came here before watching testing tomorrow. Interesting analyses.
I don't think I've ever seen anyone look as exhausted as Kyle does in this video. :O
Keep up the good work. You have heaps of knowledge
Thanks for all the insights!
This has become my favorite F1 analysis.
Great analysis!
What was the noise of cricket about? Lmao 😂 it continued for half of your video.
You analysis is excellent. Really insightful for an aero noob to here your insight! As a math guy I want to keep learning more! What was the main reason for you starting you own consulting business and leaving Mercedes?
these analyses are incredible, your attention to detail is astounding, and your deep knowledge is apparent. That bypass duct is fascinating. I wonder if it would be worth the drag hit to accelerate that flow inside the duct and use it to energize the boundary layer over the sidepod louvers. Any internal radiator would surely break up the large structures ingested by the duct, and condition the flow similar to the heat exchanger in a wind tunnel. I've never worked in the F1 space so I don't have a good understanding of the flow around any part of the car, and your assumption of cleaning up the flow around the top of the floor seems more reasonable, but I wonder if there are other secondary benefits.
Literally addicted to your content. And after the Mercedes launch this morning... cant wait for your W14 analysis
You're are unique on TH-cam, thanks a lot
Very interesting to see that both Ferrari “clients” (Alfa Romeo and Haas) have gone slightly different ways from Ferrari sidepods… Haas sports Red Bull like inlets but very similar sidepods geometry to Ferrari whereas Alfa Romeo is the opposite… they sport Ferrari inlets with Red Bull sidepods. It will be very interesting to see which hybrid sidepod will make the most out of the aero performance 🤔
fascinating stuff
Thank you!
Really interesting when you look closer at this car! Appreciate your work Kyle, now get some sleep man!
After making all of these comparisons it would be interesting to hear your opinion on who you think has done the best job or rather who you think will be the more competitive from the changes they have made...
It is gonna be hard to know since some teams are hiding their design. And by the time they hit the first race, there will be already a lot of changes
Impossible to know until they are on track. Mercedes thought they were much faster then porpoising happened. And he said many times it's also impossible to accurately study the flow of modern F1 cars without a wind tunnel or CFD
literally music to my ears
On the inlet/outlet over the mid-chassis, do you think the winglets above the cockpit are to assist with a negative-positive pressure system?
Can't wait for the real RB19 video!
cant wait for the black beast
That vent along side the cockpit will be interesting to watch in the rain or if they put some flow-vis into it.
Kyle da man
Crickets in the audio?
I don’t know heads or tails about the intricacies of aerodynamic surfaces but you make it quite interesting 😅
I was about to ask if you got enough sleep. After taking another look I'd now like to know if you get any sleep. Look after yourself man! I really hope you're OK.
Brilliant, thanks for your insightful analysis. My initial thought for the duct was to increase the effectiveness of the louvers by conducting or drawing the heat with faster air on top & directing it. Fascinating that you mention the location & it’s legality. Is it legal to cool the fuel cell?hmm
Ferrari will be the double champions this season!!! 🏎🏎🏎💪💪
Hi Kyle. Love the videos. Just saw the launch of the 2023 Mercedes. When looking at the Merc from the top it is very narrow especially compared to the wide side pods of the Ferrari. Please do a video comparing and contrasting the 2 different design philosophies. Thanks. Regards Mukund.
Yourself and Scarbs are a gift to F1 nerds
Scarbs is falling behind IMO,just look at his SF23 vid,I suggest you B Sport too
Love your breakdowns of the launch cars, but I miss your analysis during the year as the development battle rages. Would you consider doing periodic update videos during the season?
W14 up next!
Are there any considerations in the development process into following a car? How well stuff works when following the teammate for example
lol nice background , crickets :D
Is there an alarm or something in the background of the recording?
I saw some theories about the intake under the main inlet going straight through the sidepod (in a tunnel) and exiting out back near the suspension mount energizing the area around diffuser/beamwing. Possible?
Possible, but not plausible. There's a lot of stuff in between those two points. The way described here is both reasonable and has a benefit. To get this air past the fuel, motor and gearbox is probably an exercise in futility. Even if you manage it, all you get is dirty air.
What about the cutouts next to the intake? Where do those go?
The area below the brake ducts also looks like it has some new duct/arrangement from last time.
What is that sound in the back of your video? Drove me nuts.
When he said "maximizing squirt management" I had to do a double-take to make sure I was still watching a F1 video...
Maybe they added that slot under the nose, to give more flow downstream, since their suspension modification relative to the F1-75 creates more blockage to the floor.
If I can see well in the video you showed the F1 official raw cad model according to FIA rules. Is it possible to share this raw model ? because there is very hard to figour out this dimensions from the manual.
Hi Kyle,
In the last few years. I am so interested in tweaking airflow inside my Honda’s intake OEM airbox.
After many iterations, I got it quite effective judging by the acceleration of the car.
I would be happy to share it with you to analyze it.
Cheers
th-cam.com/video/wETURj1qjN0/w-d-xo.html
Here is my experiment about making diffuser for mini 4wd, which made the car not thrown away from the track with less weight ballast. I am very happy with any aerodynamic experiments
Vasseur is cooking
Oh that duct sounds so cheeky. Just the kind of stuff that you love to see the F1 engineers try to get away with :D
W14 aerodynamic analysis pleaseee
Not always agree with your aero explaination concept, but still nice information n detail analysis 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Kyle from your experience at Mercedes can you answer this? When other teams reveal their cars did Mercedes have anyone do this kind of analysis to see if they missed anything they could copy?
Not something at all related to automotive aerodynamic thing other than it’s aero dynamics. But could you do a video on vortex tubes? They take compressed air in the middle and put out hot air on one side and cold air on the other. This Old Tony did a video on them a while back, but they seem to work on black magic.
I though you might be able to shed some light on them.
That alarm sound in the background is only mildly annoying lol great video none the less
Get some sleep Kyle jeez!! And thanks for the brilliant analysis as always
Who do you think is the fastest after pre-season testing? I think rb sadly, than ferrrari❤ and after then AM
We all get are hopes up this time of year but, before long, many of our hopes are dashed. I'm going to guess Max is once again at the top of the tables even if his teammate is finishing behind another team. If the new RB is within the top three teams, and I think that's almost a given, then with Max at the wheel another championship is within reach. I hope Haas has a good year, I really like both their drivers and as an American I would like to see Haas place well and place well consistently. Sad that it didn't workout for Mick, I guess it was too much to expect Michael's son would be able to take a backmarker car onto the podium in his first year. Michael's brother was a great driver in his own right, but wasn't in Michael's league.
what is the porpouse of the hole under ferrari logo in the front wing?
Driver's cooling.
This looks like a champions car
Killer!
It's outside of your typical content, but I'd love to see a breakdown/roast of popular drifting aero devices. Big chassis mounted wings, roof spoilers, extraneous canards, raised bonnets
I'd like for F1, The Race or some of these other media outlets, etc., to invite you and discuss your analyses on their channels. I'd imagine AMG would be ok with this since you've been separated from their org for so long.
do you have your analysis on RB19?
Yeah it’s shit already released before by a disingenuous and misleading/fraudulent launch from Red Bull.
Could they claim that its for driver cooling? So they could just straightline it as it flows directly next to the driver
Ferrari is pushing hard on aero innovation and air fluid work to better clean them. They refined an already winning concept.
Watch out cause everyone else followed more or less the RB path (apart Mercedes) and there's no way that this Ferrari will be slow since it's an evolution and not a revolution. If Mercedes was able to make works it's phylosophy we could see a Ferrari and Merc faster from 0.5 sec and more, than all the others, RB included if they didn't stepped up the game with some genial solution as this one of Ferrari.
It will be an interesting season.
Great analysis as usual, many interesting points. Ferrari in effect have a dual side pod design with the traditional side pod and the Mercedes-esc smaller side pod lower down, perhaps this will increase cooling performance.
Overall, it seems that Ferrari have influences from Mercedes, namely, sliming the body, the front wing, and although they have increased the mass flow with the additional intake, it has geometric similarity with the Mercedes sided pod. Can't wait for the Mercedes analysis.
Love your videos and i hope you do more, but please feed the birds next time LOL
ok once you pointed out the cool duct thingy in the chassis region, i decided that the ferrari update is clever - because before you did this it looked stupid haha
Why stupid,brave solutions are most of the time good
I’m hearing crickets chirping in the video
i respect how he's managed to create a video like this whilst suffering with pink eye
love the video but there seems to be a high pitched beeping that begins at 6:50?
Crickets. Dude's been busy giving us this videos, let's appreciate it.
@@ziodres2212 I can appreciate and still make a suggestion. the end.
@@michaelmilne9204 Never said you couldn't.
@@ziodres2212 you inferred I was not appreciating it by making a suggestion, that's what I'm referring to. It's an assumption you made. You are correct that you said nothing about making suggestions. Or perhaps I misunderstand? Lets discuss.