I like Sainz' comment best: “I’ve never been a fan of being concerned of one team dominating because if they’ve done such a good job, they deserve it. I mean I wish it was us, and then I would get really angry people telling us that we’re walking over Formula 1. Unfortunately, this is a cars sport more than the drivers, we know that makes more of a difference. Red Bull has a very strong line-up and what we know is that if a car is really good, all the other drivers cannot do much to stay in the fight. It is the nature of Formula 1 and we’ve seen it in the past, it is nothing new.”
Yup. If we had fights in 2014-2021, it was because Vettel and Max were vastly better drivers than really overrated Merc ones and could beat them in far worse cars (and in Vettel's case, also clown team who did everything to lose on strategy). Reminder that Rosberg was the only driver to ever by obliterated by Webber, yes, that Webber who was destroyed by Vettel in all years in F1 together, even when Vettel was in Toro Rosso and Webber in Red Bull...
@@KuK137 Explain why Ricciardo, an overrated driver who got kicked out of the sport this year, obliterated Vettel in 2014, and also beat Max in 2016-17. Leclerc obliterated Vettel in 2019-20 in the same "clown team".
@@NandoFIT-df8ly very easy actually. Vettel and Riciardo are drivers who can drive insanely well if a car is set up in a certain way. This is common, like we see with Hamilton. The "best of all time" was beaten by his new teammate, and this all had to do with Lewis not being able to adjust quickly to a new car. Ferrari had a difficult car when Vettel was having a tough time with it, Leclerc too but he adjusted faster. Daniel was great in RB, needed some time to get used to the slightly different Renault, but couldn't get used to the McLaren. It's because the car philosophy didn't suit his driving style. Verstappen destroyed his recent teammates regularly, mostly because the car was setup for his driving style, which not many others prefer. Not to discredit any driver that wins over their teammate, but the car has to suit the driver in order for the driver to perform to their fullest potential.
@@NandoFIT-df8ly it's all out there by the way. Questions like yours are covered very often by various TH-cam channels covering F1 or motorsports in general. Even drivers themselves provide this insight during pressmoments
@@zonorato that isnt really that bad of a way to be, in fact that would mean hamilton credits all of his success to the team. It would be worse if he says its all him when he wins
@@gamingnoah9807 I agree, in victory he is very appreciative of his team for sure. But when things go poorly he is very quick to call out the team for their mistakes
It's almost ridiculous how the RB19 can have so much downforce and top speed without letting it seem like there's a compromise between either. I'm a Merc fan but I have to give Newey and his team their flowers.
It's not super common but it's also not that weird, there have been many times that the best F1 car of that year has that very quality. Ross Brawn talked about one of his old Ferrari's being so good they would deliberately run a downforce setting low enough to make sure they were quicker in a straight line than their rivals at the time, whilst carrying enough downforce that they remained the fastest in the slow corners. He said it was all possible simply because they had the best downforce/drag ratio at the time. Basically they didn't try to run their car at it's optimum setting, they just made sure they were fastest in the speed trap and fastest in the slowest corner and had a balance the drivers liked, with that the car was always too quick and the drivers were always comfortable pushing it. As a counterpoint, I've heard David Coulthard talk about his Adrian Newey designed McLaren's from 1998/1999 and he talked about how they weren't his favorite F1 cars despite them being some of the best he ever had in his career (relative to the field) because to get the best from them their setups required "too much understeer" and he just didn't like that balance in his car. If he dialed it out, he have up too much performance. If Redbull have so much performance in their car, they might just be doing what Ross said Ferrari did, focusing on giving Max and Checo a balance they like as long as they have the top speed trap and fastest slow corner speeds.
@@launchsquid think the video highlights something more … the RB is not a trade off or ratio between slow and fast corners but they can get the best of both worlds by bleeding drag at speed (by stalling the rear beam and diffuser plus clever wing aero) but retaining downforce at lower speeds. That is remarkable.
It comes in eras, this seem to be RB era of dominance, previsouly it was Mercs, before it was RB again... But with the penalty RB has and the development potential on the AM i hope that the end of the seaosn will be tight.
Hamilton acting like him Rosberg and Bottas didn't routinely finish 40+ seconds ahead of everyone else. Hamilton got to enjoy that kind of an advantage for 5 years! (2014, 2015, 2016, 2019 and 2020). Verstappens had it for 2 races and hes already complaining.
Wasn't Hamilton amazed at the speed differential between his 2021 car and the rest of the field when he breeze past everyone as if they were standing still in Brazil?
@@korniliosjs we already know it's not the fastest car compared to the field of all time. The W05-W07 were far more dominant. RB only comes close to that when you compare RB directly to Merc
Didn't he dive down the inside? That's not exactly a straight-line speed difference... Edit: Okay, can now confirm that it had nothing to do with engines... The only pass made between Hamilton and Norris was on the brakes into turn 1.
@@oliverwatson6956 you did not see the gap at the begining of the straight it is not showed in this short video. As i saw it live it was crazy. Of course hamilton dived but he cut off like a 1 second gap and overtook norris on that straight. It’s not even a particularly long straight
What they’re able to achieve aerodynamically is actually ahead of its time, the fact that they’re already the most efficient car AND they found a huge DRS exploit just by adjusting their diffuser and beam wing design, other teams car barely get the rear end to work the way they want to and these guys are just innovating
Undisputable genius, but only when the engines aren't a factor, its a shame F1 became an aero series again, I thought it was the pinnacle of motorsport when the whole package mattered.
Yes even his peers say Newey is the best Aerodynamists of all the other teams. Old school who I believe still designs the majority of the car on an a drafting board like the good ole' days.
@@51bikerboy that comment shows you didn't take a proper look at those cars... Just yapping around and repeating the red bull narrative. This years AMR and last year's RB are vastly different cars. They have similarities in some corners but close to every car this year has that because RB had the best car last year.
Lewis: "I've never seen a car so fast..." My brother in Christ, you've won 7 world champion titles. Wow, a big reg change and someone won the wdc back to back. Almost as if someone did that before- Oh wait! It was you, Lewis!! When Mercedes showed such power and dominance, nobody bats an eye, but when it's Red Bull, you start questioning it??
Yup.. during the MS era,.. it was really Driver vs chief engineer (AN). Credit where its due. I cant see why lewis has to bitch over this. Without mercedes superiority when he chalked up his championships, he would also be just a bit above mediocre. In a proper dog fight race on equal machines, he isnt impressive.
I mean, it is true as Lewis has always been the one in the faster car. That MB was statistically faster and more dominant, everyone else was in his mirrors in slower cars. He’s never had to watch a car that fast
This is a very sensible take. And it’s not an insult towards Lewis, if anything it’s a compliment to his efforts saying he’s been at the front so long he’s not used to it. But the fact remains, he’s not used to being passed like that. The closest rival he had before now was Verstappen in 2021, and as far as top speed goes the RB16B and W12 were somewhat on par. He’ll get used to it. Maybe Merc will get back on top, maybe not. It’s the nature of F1, everyone drops off eventually
@@ChrisStoneinator read a bit about Adrian Newey before making statements. That guy built cars that made Prost, hakkinen, vettel etc multiple world champions
@@cereal-killer4455 You think I don't know that? The statement is still a patently absurd exaggeration and very disrespectful to the other extremely talented and well educated engineers in the paddock and the factories.
@@ChrisStoneinator the whole deal is that its an exaggeration. Hyperbolic in nature, you see? You don't have to stress yourself over semantics such as these. You're not even particularly good at them, or you'd have proofread your comment at the very least.
My favorite part of this is that Lewis said the Mercedes were NEVER that much faster, even in the hybrid era, meanwhile the silver arrows in the hybrid era were 4 SECONDS FASTER PER LAP than second place.
At least we got to see Hamilton and rosberg fighting, redbull need to put someone who can fight max in the other car. Checo is a legend, but he’s no match for max unfortunately
For a part of that era they were also running detuned lol. Note the reliability issues didn't start to creep in till Honda/RB caught up in 21 forcing them to run at full power.
Trying to steer away from the Hamilton beef apparently going on in the comment section here. Great video and explanation, makes me more appreciative of how well designed and functional the car is and how much work and design/engineering goes into it.
“I’ve never seen a car so fast” Because you were literally sitting in the fastest car for EIGHT straight years until now my friend. Surprise? If there is anyone to complain you should be the last one in the line, lucky bastard.
The wobbly background music was a nice touch. Sounded just as though you hadn't cleared the tape of a previous broadcast. More artistry like this please!
Newey and his team are amazing!! Also, if I understand you correctly, Red Bull is managing the down force increase to be less extreme so they they can actually gain higher overall speed by making the car a little bit less effective less draggy, less downforce at top speeds and doing that with the edge of the floor? Which in turn allows them to run a softer suspension and get rid of the porpoising as well. Thanks for the insight I really interesting video 👍👍👍👍
Remember Brazil 2021 when he drove past everyone as if he was overtaking lorries on the M25? It was hailed as “his greatest drive ever”. Good to see the Merc propaganda engine is still in full force. Completely ignoring his advantage for nearly a decade.
Lulu is right, he never saw a competitor car so fast as the 2022/2023 RBs, you know, he was in their position for almost a decade, he just stormed the field with the unlimited resources cars that Merc threw at the grid 😂😂😂
@@tuttutteddy8889 that overspent did about nothing, Merc shot themselves in the foot with bad design, and RB struck gold by having the one man that pioneered, over 30 years ago, the technology that F1 is using today. It was just a matter of putting the eggs in the right basket, which RB did very well, but we cannot say the same about merc, and as it seems, they didnt even put any egg in the basket at all, just sand ☠️
I'm a Lewis fan but 5 of his championships were purely based on his car being so OP, so consistent and simply faster. Fans forget that the cars have a bigger impact on results than drivers do.
Redbull looks to have a floor where the centre of pressure is quite rearward, i wonder if this is easier to stall with the change of ride height caused by the loss of downforce through opening the DRS, stalling the floor.
The amount of disrespect for the talent at these teams is unreal. I get a bit of shithousery is all good fun but no one ever pays real respect to the guys underneath Newey that really make a lot of this happen.
5:00 Does not stall the beam wing as much as reduce the effect of the beam wing. A stall would increase the drag, a reduction in effect reduces both the downforce and drag simultaneously.
I love how 'The Race' can publish a video in which 90% of it is about why the assumption on which the video is based actually is wrong or at least negligible. But instead of saying 'Oh nothing to see here, waste of time' they just put the wrong assumption in the title and post it anyway
what’s crazy is that the Merc isn’t even that bad, it’s the third (now 4th) fastest car on track imagine if Hamilton had to drive the McClaren, he would retire mid season
Lewis: Never seen a car so fast. How quick lewis forgets how fast he was in Brazil in 2021 when he was flying past everyone due to that engine and aero package.
Engine Yes .... Aero not so much. Merc was never good at aero exactly why they are suffering right now. They use to build 3-4 different concept cars for a season and picked the "Less draggy one" slapped on the +60 kw PU and left the rest of the field in dust. That and the fact that the Ferrari & Honda PU has played catch up until 2021 has gone out the window, and with the cost cap it sort of rubbed salt in the wounds.
Out of every F1 driver ever, someone complaining about an overpowered car, Hamilton should just keep his mouth shut. The guy drove probably 3 of the fastest 5 (by comparison to the field) cars in the last 30 years 😵💫
I would like to see a slight shake up in DRS. That being no DRS use for qualifying. It is an overtake assist feature, so let's allow it for overtaking only. Not sure exactly what it will change but it seems more initiative of the philosophy behind it at least.
Drag doesn’t scale linearly as you suggest in this video. It scales with the square of velocity. So the drag you have at 300kph is not just 3 times the drag at 100kph. It’s 9 times the drag.
The Drs flap should close when the cars are alongside each other that way we can actually have drivers trying to outbreak each other at the end of the straight
I wonder how much of Alpha Tauri’s budget they spent developing this for the Red Bull. Funny how a company that owns two teams is seeing a massive improvement for their primary team and drastic decline in their secondary team as soon as the cost cap really started to kick in. In a sport that takes everything to win sacrificing your other team is most definitely on the table.
A good car with a competent driver is very difficult to beat. A really good car with an excellent driver is damn near impossible to beat. It is what it is, Max is doing what he's supposed to do.
When Lewis was privileged in his life Even when had these dominant cars he had to fought against rosberg. What a privilege he had life is so easy to have a competitive teammate
slowest on straights yes, but they are very strong in the corners, you can have more downforce which causes more drag slower straights but stronger in the corners. Or you can have a low downforce so fast in the straights and slower in the corners
@VERY EVIL PERSON FROM ILLUMINATI The car didn't lose at all, they won the constructors championship. As long as you kept feeding it new engines every 3 races it was much faster then anything else on the field in a straight line.
@@TheCountess666 not even close. Red bull had the better straight speed in first half season and then matched mercedes until brazil but even in qatar and jeddah Lewis didnt used his brazil engine power
@@alexlacl8730 What are you talking about? Redbull was at the back of the field in terms of straight line speed the first half of the reason. Mercedies wasn't always at front but always ahead of red bull. The redbull 2021 car won in the corners.
@@TheCountess666 always ahead of red bull ? You just need to see the qualifying comparison made by f1 on the french gp. Rb also dominated mercedes in austria where the balance and speed straights count a lot.
This brings another debate... Isn't it time to reduce DRS efficiency, or maybe an alternate solution like a push to pass button, this DRS overtakes are getting way too easy
@@Euclides287 its funny that you say that because Alonso beat him in races and they equalled on points Its also even funnier when Alonso rinsed him 3 years after in an inferior car
@@bigmemer4398 It's funny you say that because Hamilton beat Alonso in 2007 and went on to win more races and championships. Fernando never recovered from that beating and never won a championship again. 🤷🏼♂️
"I've never seen a car so fast.".....the nineteen drivers passed by the Ham Sandwich at Interlagos in 2021...........while Sir Whines a lot races by in a car that won 8 constructors titles on the trot.
Good old Newey, the man’s a genius, used to love watching him in the garage when I worked listening to the drivers comments, then he’d write down these aeronautical equations on his pad, smile & call the factory, next thing the 3D printer in the garage would fire into life & build whatever, a lot cheeper than carbon, bolt it on the car, if it worked the facts would build it in carbon & fly it out! Amazing times.
The Red Bulls in this ground effect era just look fast. It’s purely coincidental but often in history the fastest cars have looked the sleekest and smoothest too. Newey is renowned for his aerodynamic genius so it’s no surprise really. As much as I don’t like Red Bull from an ethical standpoint they make a bloody fantastic racecar from time to time.
Its the fact that this new RB is still not as fast as the most dominant merc cars of the last 6 seasons compared to the rest of the field. So in reality, ham has seen a car that fast (actually faster) its just that he was in it and Bot wasnt fast enough to breeze past him
I like Sainz' comment best:
“I’ve never been a fan of being concerned of one team dominating because if they’ve done such a good job, they deserve it. I mean I wish it was us, and then I would get really angry people telling us that we’re walking over Formula 1. Unfortunately, this is a cars sport more than the drivers, we know that makes more of a difference. Red Bull has a very strong line-up and what we know is that if a car is really good, all the other drivers cannot do much to stay in the fight. It is the nature of Formula 1 and we’ve seen it in the past, it is nothing new.”
I think a lot of people (mostly newcomers to the sport) forget that aswell
Yup. If we had fights in 2014-2021, it was because Vettel and Max were vastly better drivers than really overrated Merc ones and could beat them in far worse cars (and in Vettel's case, also clown team who did everything to lose on strategy). Reminder that Rosberg was the only driver to ever by obliterated by Webber, yes, that Webber who was destroyed by Vettel in all years in F1 together, even when Vettel was in Toro Rosso and Webber in Red Bull...
@@KuK137 Explain why Ricciardo, an overrated driver who got kicked out of the sport this year, obliterated Vettel in 2014, and also beat Max in 2016-17. Leclerc obliterated Vettel in 2019-20 in the same "clown team".
@@NandoFIT-df8ly very easy actually. Vettel and Riciardo are drivers who can drive insanely well if a car is set up in a certain way. This is common, like we see with Hamilton. The "best of all time" was beaten by his new teammate, and this all had to do with Lewis not being able to adjust quickly to a new car. Ferrari had a difficult car when Vettel was having a tough time with it, Leclerc too but he adjusted faster. Daniel was great in RB, needed some time to get used to the slightly different Renault, but couldn't get used to the McLaren. It's because the car philosophy didn't suit his driving style. Verstappen destroyed his recent teammates regularly, mostly because the car was setup for his driving style, which not many others prefer. Not to discredit any driver that wins over their teammate, but the car has to suit the driver in order for the driver to perform to their fullest potential.
@@NandoFIT-df8ly it's all out there by the way. Questions like yours are covered very often by various TH-cam channels covering F1 or motorsports in general. Even drivers themselves provide this insight during pressmoments
"My team don't make mistakes" has very quickly turned into "how can we compete with that"
😂😂😂😂
Classic lh. Win as a team, lose beceuse of the team
Thats a good mantra though. Win as a team lose as a team 🤣
@@zonorato that isnt really that bad of a way to be, in fact that would mean hamilton credits all of his success to the team. It would be worse if he says its all him when he wins
@@gamingnoah9807 I agree, in victory he is very appreciative of his team for sure. But when things go poorly he is very quick to call out the team for their mistakes
It's almost ridiculous how the RB19 can have so much downforce and top speed without letting it seem like there's a compromise between either. I'm a Merc fan but I have to give Newey and his team their flowers.
It's not super common but it's also not that weird, there have been many times that the best F1 car of that year has that very quality.
Ross Brawn talked about one of his old Ferrari's being so good they would deliberately run a downforce setting low enough to make sure they were quicker in a straight line than their rivals at the time, whilst carrying enough downforce that they remained the fastest in the slow corners.
He said it was all possible simply because they had the best downforce/drag ratio at the time.
Basically they didn't try to run their car at it's optimum setting, they just made sure they were fastest in the speed trap and fastest in the slowest corner and had a balance the drivers liked, with that the car was always too quick and the drivers were always comfortable pushing it.
As a counterpoint, I've heard David Coulthard talk about his Adrian Newey designed McLaren's from 1998/1999 and he talked about how they weren't his favorite F1 cars despite them being some of the best he ever had in his career (relative to the field) because to get the best from them their setups required "too much understeer" and he just didn't like that balance in his car.
If he dialed it out, he have up too much performance.
If Redbull have so much performance in their car, they might just be doing what Ross said Ferrari did, focusing on giving Max and Checo a balance they like as long as they have the top speed trap and fastest slow corner speeds.
I respect you for saying that, not many merc fans that would give flowers where due
@@launchsquid think the video highlights something more … the RB is not a trade off or ratio between slow and fast corners but they can get the best of both worlds by bleeding drag at speed (by stalling the rear beam and diffuser plus clever wing aero) but retaining downforce at lower speeds. That is remarkable.
It comes in eras, this seem to be RB era of dominance, previsouly it was Mercs, before it was RB again... But with the penalty RB has and the development potential on the AM i hope that the end of the seaosn will be tight.
Not only that but the RB19 being able to run so low
"I have never seen a car this fast" said the bloke that has been sitting in exactly that for the better part of a decade.
And drove literally the fastest car ever when looking at lap times, W11. Also, it was just as dominant as RB19 is shaping up to be.
Exactly, you can't see another car that fast if you're the one driving it
Why are all of you completly misunderstanding his comment?
@@B__L racism. That's why.
They hate the man because of the colour of his skin.
End of...
@@B__L Because they’re bots - or humans with bot-like tendencies. Just ignore them; nuance is entirely lost for them and their kind.
Hamilton acting like he didn’t pass Vettel in 2014 with over 30kph speed difference without DRS
Yeah fr💀
Diff era.
Everyone knows about the engine advantage that year. The question for this year is that there's an engine freeze so the answer must be aerodynamic
tbf in 2014 the mercs were just fighting each other. Everyone else was chum meat
Hamilton acting like him Rosberg and Bottas didn't routinely finish 40+ seconds ahead of everyone else.
Hamilton got to enjoy that kind of an advantage for 5 years! (2014, 2015, 2016, 2019 and 2020). Verstappens had it for 2 races and hes already complaining.
Guys c'mon lewis is right ,how he could ever see a car that fast when for years there wasn't someone in front of him
My thoughts exactly
😂😂
It's ironic, right? If it's yes , i agree.
All the midfield team drivers snickering and saying to Hamilton:
"We accept you"
The W11 is the fastest F1 car in F1 history.
I've never seen a car I wasn't driving go so fast.
Lewis was just holding back so that he could blame the speed difference for his incompetence.
He is just a very toxic man only the Brits don't see it!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
ok so it was always the car, so what he says. Why now the driver does not get the credits.. i wonder
@@shadowracer789 because lulu fangirls have no brains. It was always the car.
@@shadowracer789 you put any midfielder in the fastest car and they will be getting podiums
Wasn't Hamilton amazed at the speed differential between his 2021 car and the rest of the field when he breeze past everyone as if they were standing still in Brazil?
No. They've called it Hammertime 🤣🤣🤣🤣...and now just hammered
no he wasnt. clearly.
that was tuned up engine and the rear "squat"
No that was all him apparently and heralded as one of the best drives ever according to British media looool.
Well, it was a brand new engine turned up to all hell - so probably not.
did he just forget that mercedes has a F0 car for like 8 years?
yes
Selective memory smh.
"But I was winning so there was nothing wrong about that"
Was thinking the same... that unmatched technicall knowhow newey brings really took a hoilday didnt it
Lewis has a notoriously poor memory
Lewis: Ive never seen a car so fast
W11: Am I a joke to you?
W11 was never known for top speed. You must be thinking about 2014-17 era. Or you're just another casual and Lewis is your daddy
@@fjuuuuuz the w11 was literally the most dominant car what are you talking about
@@fjuuuuuz remove 2017 as Ferrari matched them
@@Mow_Lester the w07 was more dominant, but the 88 McLaren was the most dominant ever.
@@Mow_Lester Not even remotely close to being “the most dominant car.”
Do yourself a favor and read about the 1988 season.
"I have never seen a car this fast", literally went 2.5s faster in 2020 quali lap than this year's pole.
I think he meant this much faster than the rest of the field, which we can only prove or disprove by the end of the season
@@korniliosjs we already know it's not the fastest car compared to the field of all time. The W05-W07 were far more dominant. RB only comes close to that when you compare RB directly to Merc
@@korniliosjs That's even less true than the original statement, 2014 was a fucking joke
@@valkeitos we don't know anything from 2/25(?) tracks where red bull finished 1-2 in both.
@@korniliosjs 2014 and 2016 come to mind
I still remember hamiltons pass on Norris in Brazil 21. That was an unbelievably huge speed difference of the same engine.
Didn't he dive down the inside? That's not exactly a straight-line speed difference...
Edit: Okay, can now confirm that it had nothing to do with engines... The only pass made between Hamilton and Norris was on the brakes into turn 1.
McLaren 2021 had renault engines right?
@@oliverwatson6956 you did not see the gap at the begining of the straight it is not showed in this short video. As i saw it live it was crazy. Of course hamilton dived but he cut off like a 1 second gap and overtook norris on that straight. It’s not even a particularly long straight
I've never seen a car as fast as the Mercedes 2014-2016, 2019-2020.
Neither have I and I've seen both races this season!
2019 was not a dominant car. Just a great car
Wym it like won every race the first half of the season
Still he fails ! No 8th title for old lulu
@@robertvanzant2653 still more successful than any other driver in f1 history
Red Bull really nailed their car design.
And gave, with Thanks to Honda, Verstappen in 2021 a car to compete with Mercedes under the old rules.
You really nailed this comment.
@@Atlas.Brooklyn I wanted to know what it feels like to say something Will Buxton would have said.
Adrian Newey is a wizard for sure. He probably gets an aerodynamic epiphany from someone sneezing into a tissue 🤧
What they’re able to achieve aerodynamically is actually ahead of its time, the fact that they’re already the most efficient car AND they found a huge DRS exploit just by adjusting their diffuser and beam wing design, other teams car barely get the rear end to work the way they want to and these guys are just innovating
Adrian Newey is by far the most influential and powerful person in F1. Genius. No contest.
Nikolas Tombazis and Pat Symonds wrote the rules though.
Undisputable genius, but only when the engines aren't a factor, its a shame F1 became an aero series again, I thought it was the pinnacle of motorsport when the whole package mattered.
@@Rambotato great sailent point, my guy. But we have to consider that building an engine takes more time, more funding and smarter staff.
Similar to "James won titles for Mercedes, Not Lewis" .
Yes even his peers say Newey is the best Aerodynamists of all the other teams. Old school who I believe still designs the majority of the car on an a drafting board like the good ole' days.
Make a video on why Aston is fast this year. The technical changes they made on the car
Just look at Red Bull.😅
@@51bikerboy won't tell you much. It's similar, but still very different, for example, having a cut in on top of sidepods in similar way to Ferrari.
@@51bikerboy 😆😅
@@gladdy6412 it’s similar but still very different 💀
@@51bikerboy that comment shows you didn't take a proper look at those cars... Just yapping around and repeating the red bull narrative. This years AMR and last year's RB are vastly different cars. They have similarities in some corners but close to every car this year has that because RB had the best car last year.
Lewis: "I've never seen a car so fast..."
My brother in Christ, you've won 7 world champion titles. Wow, a big reg change and someone won the wdc back to back. Almost as if someone did that before- Oh wait! It was you, Lewis!! When Mercedes showed such power and dominance, nobody bats an eye, but when it's Red Bull, you start questioning it??
Lol - ati "My brother in Christ" hehehe
u did't know? hamilton won those championships with a slow car. not the fastest one. hez that gud.
@@mvh996 The only season Hamilton wasn’t in the best car in Mercedes was 2013. 2014-2020
they had the best car.
Why people hate so much on RB
Is because how they were crying when Ferrari and merc were betting them
@@reltihfloda7419 not like this.definitely not like this.
Newey is a once in one hundred year genius. Seeing the details of his work never ceases to amaze me.
Chief designers don't design the whole car themselves ffs
@@ninjaed13 steve jobs was a genis he made the iphone in a cave!
@@Half_Finis It's James who won the titles for MB , not Lewis .
Yup.. during the MS era,.. it was really Driver vs chief engineer (AN). Credit where its due.
I cant see why lewis has to bitch over this. Without mercedes superiority when he chalked up his championships, he would also be just a bit above mediocre. In a proper dog fight race on equal machines, he isnt impressive.
I love how you guys break down and explain these videos for us fans who don’t have the technical expertise.
I mean, it is true as Lewis has always been the one in the faster car. That MB was statistically faster and more dominant, everyone else was in his mirrors in slower cars. He’s never had to watch a car that fast
This is a very sensible take.
And it’s not an insult towards Lewis, if anything it’s a compliment to his efforts saying he’s been at the front so long he’s not used to it.
But the fact remains, he’s not used to being passed like that. The closest rival he had before now was Verstappen in 2021, and as far as top speed goes the RB16B and W12 were somewhat on par.
He’ll get used to it. Maybe Merc will get back on top, maybe not. It’s the nature of F1, everyone drops off eventually
@@tyler_bt3326 It's more a complement to the ones that built the cars
@@arroe8386 the best drivers get the best seat, it’s definitely a compliment to Hamilton. Don’t be hater mate
@@ryanlane208 Meaning Perez is now a better driver than Leclerc, Hamilton, Russell, Alonso?
@@arroe8386 thats only because Max and his dad would not allow a top driver in the other seat.
Adrian Newey has forgotten more about aerodynamics than the rest of the field combined knows.
Very silly statement.
@@ChrisStoneinator read a bit about Adrian Newey before making statements. That guy built cars that made Prost, hakkinen, vettel etc multiple world champions
@@cereal-killer4455 You think I don't know that? The statement is still a patently absurd exaggeration and very disrespectful to the other extremely talented and well educated engineers in the paddock and the factories.
@@ChrisStoneinator the whole deal is that its an exaggeration. Hyperbolic in nature, you see? You don't have to stress yourself over semantics such as these. You're not even particularly good at them, or you'd have proofread your comment at the very least.
Forgotten? Autocorrect typo?
First double diffuser and now a triple drs
Soon quadriple ERS
@@NaplesFC 🤣🤣🤣
@@NaplesFC no soon double side pods and double undercuts
Double DAS coming soon.
Also Hamilton's double Standards💀
Well, RB changed their f*cking car 😂
Christian Horner is goated for that lmaooo
Horner gives fantastic advice
With money no one else had. :)
@@hotshtsr20 Nope😘
@@hotshtsr20 2021 was the season they overspent.
My favorite part of this is that Lewis said the Mercedes were NEVER that much faster, even in the hybrid era, meanwhile the silver arrows in the hybrid era were 4 SECONDS FASTER PER LAP than second place.
At least we got to see Hamilton and rosberg fighting, redbull need to put someone who can fight max in the other car. Checo is a legend, but he’s no match for max unfortunately
@@everydayirace Rosberg was an incredibly taleted driver, he's a massive tit in my opinion, but perez wouldn't come close
For a part of that era they were also running detuned lol.
Note the reliability issues didn't start to creep in till Honda/RB caught up in 21 forcing them to run at full power.
@@vaughnsigal4560 Why would RedBull want to do that?
@@everydayirace Rosberg would smoke Perez any day of the week dude what are you on?
34 kmph!!! Its almost like a bike breezing past you as you are standing. Insane
5:17 You can clearly see Red Bull's secret. It's that piece of clear tape that's holding the whole thing together.
There's a picture of a coconut in the systems of the steering wheel that, if deleted, stops the wheel from functioning.
😂
Hahaha!!
Lewis: "RB, AM & Russel dominance could bore fans"
I'd rather see Russell win a championship before Lewis got his 8th.
@@prozoomy The minute Russel looks like he’s going to overshadow Hamilton all will break loose, just like every previous team mate of Hamilton.
Trying to steer away from the Hamilton beef apparently going on in the comment section here. Great video and explanation, makes me more appreciative of how well designed and functional the car is and how much work and design/engineering goes into it.
Thanks for this video. This is the most informative video about how rear car aerodynamics works I've seen.
I like how most of the comments are on Hamilton’s comment and not the technical aspects of RB’s rear wing
“I’ve never seen a car so fast”
Because you were literally sitting in the fastest car for EIGHT straight years until now my friend. Surprise?
If there is anyone to complain you should be the last one in the line, lucky bastard.
The wobbly background music was a nice touch. Sounded just as though you hadn't cleared the tape of a previous broadcast. More artistry like this please!
The engineering behind these monster machines makes them feel like ground-bound fighter jets.
W
Newey and his team are amazing!!
Also, if I understand you correctly, Red Bull is managing the down force increase to be less extreme so they they can actually gain higher overall speed by making the car a little bit less effective less draggy, less downforce at top speeds and doing that with the edge of the floor? Which in turn allows them to run a softer suspension and get rid of the porpoising as well.
Thanks for the insight I really interesting video 👍👍👍👍
Remember Brazil 2021 when he drove past everyone as if he was overtaking lorries on the M25?
It was hailed as “his greatest drive ever”. Good to see the Merc propaganda engine is still in full force.
Completely ignoring his advantage for nearly a decade.
"...as if he was overtaking lorries on the M25" 🤣🤣🤣👍
“WTF’s going on? Only I’m allowed to have the fastest car. I’m the best” 😂
Interesting to see how the rest adapts. Especially whether AM can achieve the same!
This was really informative. Thanks, The Race.
The Race deserves plaudits for the amount of variation and information in all its videos. It deserves a much higher subscriber count.
Hamilton: _"I've never seen a car so fast..."_
Oh yeah, Lewis? Tell that to your Mercedes 2020 car.
Ok that’s the closest I’ve come to actually understanding what’s going on here
Lulu is right, he never saw a competitor car so fast as the 2022/2023 RBs, you know, he was in their position for almost a decade, he just stormed the field with the unlimited resources cars that Merc threw at the grid 😂😂😂
I don't think ferrari or RB had any limit on the resources either. But yeah merc did produce the fastest f1 car till date
Mer and Ferrari would spend the most with red bull spending a lot but not as much like 500m be 300m
@@jacobbrassard2776 I wonder how much this pace is down to rb overspend (if at all) tbh. We all know money is king
@@tuttutteddy8889 that overspent did about nothing, Merc shot themselves in the foot with bad design, and RB struck gold by having the one man that pioneered, over 30 years ago, the technology that F1 is using today.
It was just a matter of putting the eggs in the right basket, which RB did very well, but we cannot say the same about merc, and as it seems, they didnt even put any egg in the basket at all, just sand ☠️
Is lulu the new N word for Lewis now, seen a lot of gammon use that phrase 🤔
LH: "i have never seen a car so fast"
Hello my friend the Holy Grail "W11".. That won 13 out of 17 races
if rb win all their races your comment will age well
not like Mercedes or one of their drivers to distort facts to try and get an advantage.
Hamilton "I broke my back ,my back is broken,spinal."
The f1 community has become sooo toxic that on a video focusing on RedBull’s genius engineering feat, everyone is focused on drama
Agreed - I have come to hate F1 because of it.
I'm a Lewis fan but 5 of his championships were purely based on his car being so OP, so consistent and simply faster. Fans forget that the cars have a bigger impact on results than drivers do.
You got to take your hat off to Adrian Newey, he's a genius and designs some amazing cars
The true goat in F1
@@senseofthecommonman James is the true reason for Hamilton being a 7 time World champion.
Only the hat off? Are you sure? No anything else?
@@FormulaOnePassion feel free to take off what you want, but for me, hats off
Hamilton: my car is not the fastest one 😭😭😭
That's how everyone else felt about Mercedes for 7 years
Redbull looks to have a floor where the centre of pressure is quite rearward, i wonder if this is easier to stall with the change of ride height caused by the loss of downforce through opening the DRS, stalling the floor.
To really get a close to perfect analysis. You would need different drivers in different cars. This explanation is simple
red bull has a man who likes to draw cars Mercedes have 45 people who put math into a computer and it still doesnt work
The man who can see air
More like redbull has a man who's masters thesis is about ground effect cars
The amount of disrespect for the talent at these teams is unreal. I get a bit of shithousery is all good fun but no one ever pays real respect to the guys underneath Newey that really make a lot of this happen.
@Sidharth Tirkey "daddy chill" he's just making a comment.
@@Black_Gold_Saw Whose salary was submitted invisibly as well... :)
Newey is , no doubt , an aerodynamistist par excellence .
Just like Alonso said last year, he only knows how to drive in the front 😂
5:00 Does not stall the beam wing as much as reduce the effect of the beam wing. A stall would increase the drag, a reduction in effect reduces both the downforce and drag simultaneously.
Dont argue wıth Adrian Newey simply because he is genius ( Alain Prost )
I love how 'The Race' can publish a video in which 90% of it is about why the assumption on which the video is based actually is wrong or at least negligible. But instead of saying 'Oh nothing to see here, waste of time' they just put the wrong assumption in the title and post it anyway
LH is just trying to shine the light away from his car's lackluster straight-line speed and drag issues
what’s crazy is that the Merc isn’t even that bad, it’s the third (now 4th) fastest car on track
imagine if Hamilton had to drive the McClaren, he would retire mid season
Hamilton's brain:
When Red Bull wins, Red Bull is fast.
When Mercedes wins, Lewis is fast as hell.
As f1 fan we want merc to feel helpless for 10 years so they can understand what we feel in those 8 years
Lewis: Never seen a car so fast.
How quick lewis forgets how fast he was in Brazil in 2021 when he was flying past everyone due to that engine and aero package.
Exactly
Engine Yes .... Aero not so much. Merc was never good at aero exactly why they are suffering right now. They use to build 3-4 different concept cars for a season and picked the "Less draggy one" slapped on the +60 kw PU and left the rest of the field in dust. That and the fact that the Ferrari & Honda PU has played catch up until 2021 has gone out the window, and with the cost cap it sort of rubbed salt in the wounds.
Out of every F1 driver ever, someone complaining about an overpowered car, Hamilton should just keep his mouth shut. The guy drove probably 3 of the fastest 5 (by comparison to the field) cars in the last 30 years 😵💫
I would like to see a slight shake up in DRS. That being no DRS use for qualifying.
It is an overtake assist feature, so let's allow it for overtaking only. Not sure exactly what it will change but it seems more initiative of the philosophy behind it at least.
Drag doesn’t scale linearly as you suggest in this video. It scales with the square of velocity. So the drag you have at 300kph is not just 3 times the drag at 100kph. It’s 9 times the drag.
The Drs flap should close when the cars are alongside each other that way we can actually have drivers trying to outbreak each other at the end of the straight
What a fantastic explanation of what Red Bull are doing. cheers.
I wonder how much of Alpha Tauri’s budget they spent developing this for the Red Bull. Funny how a company that owns two teams is seeing a massive improvement for their primary team and drastic decline in their secondary team as soon as the cost cap really started to kick in. In a sport that takes everything to win sacrificing your other team is most definitely on the table.
I can watch these types of f1 stuff all day. Great video
RB19 is the beastttt
I was a Ferrari fan when I was younger and later had some kind of affinity for Mercedes, but Adrian Newey, dang, he's good!
Adrian newey is the fella I would want to have in my f1 team, if not I wouldn't even bother 👍 I wonder if mclaren would like Honda engine again
Eh, and then fuck up the car again and blame Honda for it. That seems the way they operate.
I mean what do you expect the guy literally wrote a book on how ground effect works in F1
"ive never seen a car so fast" says lewis hamilton, forgetting the last decade in the mercedes pulling 20 second gaps in only a few laps
such a typical lie and pretend by black person
How quickly did it go from "my team doesn't make mistakes" to "idiots didn't listen to me". Paraphrased of course.
"Bono my tyres are gone". Also, DRS will never disappear from F1.
I like DRS
@@diggernicks for me, DRS & drivers on mismatched wear Pirelli tyres has been terrible. Drivers overtaking the car in front before the braking zone.
Interesting concept of the dimmer switch in regards to how extra downforce at speed is managed. Neat video, thx!
A good car with a competent driver is very difficult to beat. A really good car with an excellent driver is damn near impossible to beat. It is what it is, Max is doing what he's supposed to do.
Being in a slow car will obviously make him think like this about every car.
Adrian Newey and his team. Genius.
Funny how quick Lewis forgets he dominated by 1 second a lap for years 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
If you forgot go watch Brazil 2021
Hammy is just crying as usual
It's clearly because of the Honda stickers, they add hp just like VTEC.
“I’ve never been been in a position where I wasn’t privileged anymore” 😱
-hamilton probably
When Lewis was privileged in his life
Even when had these dominant cars he had to fought against rosberg. What a privilege he had life is so easy to have a competitive teammate
Adrian Newey should work with the RAF in designing high performance fighter jets
It's funny, how 3 of 5 teams who is in top 5 are the slowest.
slowest on straights yes, but they are very strong in the corners, you can have more downforce which causes more drag slower straights but stronger in the corners. Or you can have a low downforce so fast in the straights and slower in the corners
@@lewismitchell3751 exactly. Its all relative. obviously BM is a new f1 fan.
Adrian Newey, you sir, are the aerodynamic genius
"I've never seen a car that fast" bros forgot his 2020 car
With the others words a Newy' s masterpiece. A living legend.
He’s never seen a car so fast? What about his 2020 and 2021 car?
@VERY EVIL PERSON FROM ILLUMINATI The car didn't lose at all, they won the constructors championship. As long as you kept feeding it new engines every 3 races it was much faster then anything else on the field in a straight line.
@@TheCountess666 not even close. Red bull had the better straight speed in first half season and then matched mercedes until brazil but even in qatar and jeddah Lewis didnt used his brazil engine power
2021 car was only fast really after they put that spicy ICE in it for Brazil on !!
@@alexlacl8730 What are you talking about? Redbull was at the back of the field in terms of straight line speed the first half of the reason. Mercedies wasn't always at front but always ahead of red bull.
The redbull 2021 car won in the corners.
@@TheCountess666 always ahead of red bull ? You just need to see the qualifying comparison made by f1 on the french gp. Rb also dominated mercedes in austria where the balance and speed straights count a lot.
That was called hammer time in the past and now the whole merc garage is hammered
This brings another debate... Isn't it time to reduce DRS efficiency, or maybe an alternate solution like a push to pass button, this DRS overtakes are getting way too easy
Ironic you choose the quote from the guy who drove the W11 and W05.
Now he knows how everyone else felt....championships come ten a penny when your car is in a class of its own...
Hamilton's tears make his car heavier, therefore slower.
That explains why Alonso was so much slower than Hamilton when they were driving the same car in 2007.
@@Euclides287 its funny that you say that because Alonso beat him in races and they equalled on points
Its also even funnier when Alonso rinsed him 3 years after in an inferior car
@@bigmemer4398 It's funny you say that because Hamilton beat Alonso in 2007 and went on to win more races and championships. Fernando never recovered from that beating and never won a championship again. 🤷🏼♂️
"I've never seen a car so fast.".....the nineteen drivers passed by the Ham Sandwich at Interlagos in 2021...........while Sir Whines a lot races by in a car that won 8 constructors titles on the trot.
I guess he forgot hes sat in one for 7years.
Good old Newey, the man’s a genius, used to love watching him in the garage when I worked listening to the drivers comments, then he’d write down these aeronautical equations on his pad, smile & call the factory, next thing the 3D printer in the garage would fire into life & build whatever, a lot cheeper than carbon, bolt it on the car, if it worked the facts would build it in carbon & fly it out!
Amazing times.
The Red Bulls in this ground effect era just look fast. It’s purely coincidental but often in history the fastest cars have looked the sleekest and smoothest too.
Newey is renowned for his aerodynamic genius so it’s no surprise really. As much as I don’t like Red Bull from an ethical standpoint they make a bloody fantastic racecar from time to time.
Merc wanna pull thier finger out then...
Thank you very much for this informative and unbiased video. I learned a lot about the DRS differences.
Its the fact that this new RB is still not as fast as the most dominant merc cars of the last 6 seasons compared to the rest of the field. So in reality, ham has seen a car that fast (actually faster) its just that he was in it and Bot wasnt fast enough to breeze past him