Comments are indicating that people are really interested in questioning the foundations. That's good 👍. Whoever worked on this project, should be given due credit.
Why villanize Sh@ri@h? Ans : Because It's the best system in the world and Libralism can't compete with it. How to villanize Shariah? Ans : Create puppet terrorists and make them claim they are *Islamic* How to make people stay away from Shariah system? Ans : 1. Villanize and show Sh@ri@h is terrible and oppresive and brainwash people with this lies by news media and movies etc. 2. Show that secularism / liberalism is the best system. 3. Blame Islam for the failure of secular and liberal Musl!ms countries. (Even though the system in constitution was secularism instead of sh@ri@h.)
Quaid's Message to the Frontier Muslim Students Federation, June 18, 1945: "Pakistan not only means freedom and independence but the Muslim Ideology which has to be preserved, which has come to us as a precious gift and treasure and which we hope others will share with us."
My gratitude to you sir for presenting this enlightening and informative documentary to us. I appreciate and acknowledge your effort to put all this together, complete with subtitles and a beautifully done voiceover. Looking forward to more content. God bless.
Quaids Message to the Frontier Muslim Students Federation, June 18, 1945: "Pakistan not only means freedom and independence but the Muslim Ideology which has to be preserved, which has come to us as a precious gift and treasure and which we hope others will share with us."
I must congratulate this meticulously researched film by Umair Khan and Fatimah Javed. Even the voice of Ms. Fatima is so kind and respectful, it brings love and admiration for her. God Bless her. I am from Bangladesh and want peace and prosperity in Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh and they should look upon each other as friends and brothers and sisters of the same mother soil of India. This documentary shows very well that Mr. Jinnah was truly liberal, progressive, and a man of integrity. He was a great leader, Quaid-e- Azam. If Pakistanis followed his ideology, then Pakistan would not have been a hotbed for terrorism and a bankrupt nation as it is now. I hope Pakistanis watch this film and learn humanitarian values. May God Bless the soul of Mr. Jinnah. Amen.
Lmao😂, Pakistan is a secular country with democracy and liberal agenda. Pakistan is living by secualar system. And what did Pakistan get by this? Did they become superpower or something? And to save themselves, Seculars are trying to blame Islam for the failure of secular Pakistan, while Pakistan was never a Islamic state. Jinnah was a Secular Urdu Nationalist r@cist piece of sh!t, who used Islam to gain power and betray muslims of sub-continent.
Pristine. Well researched. Sir Taimur always inspires me with his intellect. Now, with this piece I've learned many new things which were even missed by Wolpert - wonderful.
Sir please make a series on European history.You already done Arab Israel series 👍which partially covers Cold war events but it would be very helpful if pre-Arab-israel conflicts (Napoleonic wars,World wars ) are covered Thanks
oh my God ... I don't know how can I explain my feelings for Jinnah! my Leader.... today I m going to say with tears in my eyes that I seriously not too much liked or admired Quaid e Azzam because of this kind of Pakistan but now I accept there is no any perfect leader like him..." actually I always see this country through the glasses of Secularism now I came to know that this land actually gained by him 4 the purpose of Secular Democratic state... Lots of Respect and Love 4 him.... Quaid e Azzam Zindabaad !✋ and lastly 4 uh Guys... ur work is Excellent keep it up.....
The point is, Jinnah never mentioned the word secular in any of his speeches, and mentioned the state being based on Islamic principles on several occasions. Regardless of what his intentions were, he's ended up creating a semi-theocratic democracy (or so he intended, until generals decided to jump in on statecrafting). And btw, upholding Jinnah as this sort of standard to aspire to is something I find really laughable within Pakistani liberal circles. Given that Kashmiri independence was undermined by Jinnah's invasion of Kashmir, and Balochistan was forcefully occupied by Pakistan. Bacha Khan - the only secular leader who encouraged his people to read and rid themselves off the shackles of blood feuds was deemed a traitor and since then the ANP and secular Pashtuns have been targeted by the Pakistani state. At the end of the day, you cannot deny that Jinnah himself was responsible for the mess we are in. Even Jinnah uttered these words on his death bed when he said, "Pakistan was the greatest mistake of my life". Just ask yourself, how can a state made to safeguard the interests of a religious group and their religion, ever become secular? The very basis of Pakistani nationhood is Islam. Take Islam out of Pakistan and you won't have a Pakistan. Such is not the case for historical regions like Iran, India, Punjab, Sindh, Balochistan etc. So the question of separating religion from state in a country whose entire reason to exist is religion, is pointless. Either you advocate for Pakistan, or like myself, secular nation states based on common language. Pakistan is done. And I say that as someone who is from there.
There are very few critical voices in the country who have the courage to call a spade a spade. Btw I would like to know the source where Jinnah said that Pakistan was his greatest mistake, out of curiosity. Do books published outside Pakistan mention this? They do mention that he was fond of his whiskey and pork and bacon, but in Pakistan these passages have been removed to give Jinnah an Islamic outlook.
While I agree on the fact that Jinnah never mentioned verbally that Pakistan was not associated with the religion, I’d like to disagree with this invasive remark, as well as the Indian doctrinaire that Baloch are apparently going through a national apartheid, because I’m a Baloch, and I, my relatives and my friends are very happy to be Pakistanis if I say so myself. In regards to Pashtuns, this nationalist movement actually sprung up from Afghanistan, not Pakistan. If you take a national poll to see how many Pashtuns would actually like independence and secularism, I can guarantee that the “for” notion would not proceed above 20% at max, for Pashtuns are some of Pro-Pakistani nationalists around. In regards to Kashmir, there wasn’t invasion by either side. The majority of the state wanted to join Pakistan, however, since the Maharaja was a Hindu, he chose independence. At first, it was all okay, until Pakistani dacoits and looters invaded Kashmir, all the while the Maharaja, out of a regard of acquiring security, signed the deal to India. During this period, both India and Pakistan invaded to claim what they believed to rightfully be theirs. Ever since, there’s been a nonstop battle between the two states. Thanks! - M
@@mul-el3657 I think despite how politically charged and heated these conversations are, it's always refreshing to read a well-written and mature reply, so thank you for that. Regarding the Baloch movement for justice as simply Indian doctrine is something I disagree with. While I do think that India has an interest in using Balochistan as their trump card, in case Pakistan talks about human rights violations in Kashmir, I would be careful about framing that as an Indian movement. The recent incidents in Hoshab, and the murders of Baloch human rights activists abroad have further fuelled resentment within Balochistan. This is evidenced by the recent protests in Gwadar, where people are chanting "death to Pakistan" and "long live Balochistan". Maulana Rehman said in one of his speeches that "FC is the biggest cancer in Balochistan". Recently, a video went viral where students at Quetta (I think) University celebrated the victory of Australia over Pakistan in the t20 series. Such resentment has not really existed on such a mass scale, or if it had, we were never exposed to it as much as we are now. Now, I'll be honest and I'll say: I do not know what the scale of this problem is! What I do know, is that there is a media blackout on Balochistan. While these protests were happening, the only news coming out of Balochistan was a kukkar fight in some village. People who have reported or written about Balochistan from the point of view of the Baloch have been either killed or attacked, or sent into exile. This tells me that the Paki establishment is very serious about keeping us in the dark about what's happening. And this makes me suspicious that actually the scale of the problem is probably far larger than any of us can imagine. I have no reason to doubt you are a Baloch, but I know a far larger number of Baloch who disagree with you entirely, and would rather die than call themselves Pakistani. Best, tc.
@@Literally-hw6jv Thank you for your reply. I don’t really have a lot of time for incredibly grammatical messaging, so I’ll simply debunk the claim of the so-called “Baloch Genocide.” See, Pakistan has five provinces: Punjab, Afghania, Kashmir, Sindh & Balochistan. In terms of our geography, we are located with hostile neighbours who surround our borders (i.e. India, Afghanistan, Pakistani Taliban, the Iranian Regime, ISIS-K) and then there’s Balochistan’s location. An undiscovered amount of petroleum, oil and diamonds reserved in a desert. In Pakistan, there exists a lot of military influence and operational demand in Balochistan due to it’s regional safety issues. These issues are present due to a man known as Mohsin Dawar, the founder of National Democratic Movement, a “sellout” party. In the “open secret” political system of Pakistan, there is a well known fact that this man is the one who has armed and provided TTP militants with arms and weapons. It’s rather comparable to Iraq, really. A nation that’s surrounded with so much hostility that it requires military support and arm at all times to maintain stability. Just to prove Baloch equality, we can, say point out Baloch actors: Feroze Khan, Waqar Baloch, Hafeez Lal or Emaad Irfani. While I agree on the previous atrocities committed by Pakistan such as the Bengal genocide that was carried out by a racist Sindhi (ZAB), this Baloch genocidal propaganda is simply not true. Hope you understand that this is not just my blind love for my country, as I will indeed always stand against what isn’t right. 🙏 😊
@@mul-el3657 No worries. Just to point out that I did not mention "genocide" anywhere. I only mentioned the Pakistan Army's murder and suppression of Baloch civilians. And, you haven't really "debunked" anything, you've just made claims. E.g. "Mohsin Dawar runs a sellout party" and "armed TTP militants". Mohsin Dawar's entire career has come out of criticising the Pakistan Army for supporting the Taliban and TTP. He does not make distinctions between good and bad Taliban like many in Pakistan do. Also, there's a reason why Pakistan's neighbours are hostile. Firstly, I wouldn't class Iran as "hostile". There are border issues, but largely Pakistan and Iran see eye to eye on more than Pakistan's more immediate neighbours. I don't support the Indian state for its actions in Kashmir, but looking at it objectively, Pakistan is the hostile neighbour to India more than vice versa. All Indo-Pak wars were started by Pakistan, and ended more or less in either defeat or status quo ante bellum. Kashmiri independence itself was undermined by Pakistan when Pakistan decided to send tribals across the border, making the Maharaja nervous and ask the Indians to come to his aid. I will concede though that Afghanistan did try to invoke Pashtun nationalist sentiments in Pakistan, and for that it has paid the price. However, Pakistan hasn't really made things easy for itself by choosing to ally with the Taliban. The Taliban are known in Afghanistan as staunch Pashtun nationalists, and have never accepted the Durand Line. So by allying itself with the Taliban, Pakistan has chosen Islamic fundamentalist Pashtun nationalists, over secular Pashtun nationalists. It would have made far more sense strategically to have allied with the government in Kabul from 2001 onwards, which unlike the communist regimes were less Pashtun centric and more "national". So, as unfortunate as Pakistan has been, it hasn't made things any better for itself.
I really Loved this, Sir, may you please recommend certain books that can help me see the Partition and pre partition politics on a much comprehensive scale..
This is the one of the most pristine of works, I have ever seen on Mr. Jinnah. I am from India, and loved this documentary. An amazingly well put together one. Truly, he was the most liberal man, the subcontinent has ever known; will ever know (unfortunately), for years to come. The way I see the first half of 20th century history of the subcontinent, as related to India and Pakistan; the core conflict between INC and Mr. Jinnah, was that of authority and liberty, respectively. The INCans (moderates/centrists) were Hamiltonian nationalists, whereas Mr. Jinnah was a Jeffersonian republican. The history of 20th c British India has some remarkable parallels with the early United States’ history. The making of the US constitution in 1787, the conflicts between federalists (nationalists/strong central government) and antifederalists (democratic-republicans/strong state governments) in the early American republic, are quite similar to that of the subcontinent’s history. Nehru and Patel were Hamiltonians, who prioritized in territoriality and centrality, over democratic process. Jinnah and his close allies, were Jeffersonians, who believed in Jeffersonian principles of wall of separation between church and state, democratization of ownership of property, republican form of governments, concurrent majorities, states’ rights and autonomy (not sovereignty), and so on. Jinnah was a Lockean just like Jefferson. Nehru and Co. were not. They were utilitarians, at best. The direct result of which, is what we see in India, today. Tyranny of some of the populous states states (cow belt) over others through aggressive take over of central legislature (parliament), on the basis of religion and religious fanaticism. The Hamiltonians (Nehru and Co) were the architect of the present day crisis in India. Absolute rule of parliament, parliamentary sovereignty, Supreme Court sovereignty, states’ subordinacy, unitary powers with residual powers vested in a central government- all recipes of despotism and dictatorship. Love live, Mr. Jinnah! A true liberal republican, through and through. A Jeffersonian.
You’ve put it very well. But still Jinnah had failed to create a perfect secular state with godless constitution ironically. In my opinion, it was because he ran out of much options due to abrupt changes in political atmosphere of India from 1940s.
@@nerdy4172 I dont think this was about him failing to do anything. The man was dying and hadn't got much time left. He left it to the people, and the democratic process, to take it from where he was leaving.
Very impressive analysis but it should also be mentioned that the Jinnah you're describing is the Jinnah of pre-pakistan movement. He held the leadership of the Pakistan-movement out of spite after sensing his apparent ideological divide with the Congress and totally gave up on his ideological principles. This is why what became Pakistan was ideologically totally in contrast to the philosophy of Locke and Jefferson. In a way, he ended up creating exactly what he was opposing and even a more radical form of it.
Previously I watched documentaries on Ghandhi and Nehru, which although, were captivating but had always portrayed Jinnah negatively and with contempt. This documentary is really the depiction of greatness of our Quaid, and can be regarded as a great work towards understanding the partition. Amazing,.......I am obliged to your efforts, keep it up. Such an interesting and genuine view of Jinnah's personality which needs to be viewed again and again.
48:37 it's ashame that never happened and its still not happening 😒 51:08 onwards, that is so true 56:03 indeed jinnah's reply to that completely fits in with the condition of today's Pakistan
Quaid e azam on islamic state ... Message to the Frontier Muslim Students Federation, June 18, 1945: "Pakistan not only means freedom and independence but the Muslim Ideology which has to be preserved, which has come to us as a precious gift and treasure and which we hope others will share with us."
This is why 1971 was a great feat for my country Bangladesh. My country was born on the basis of language and culture not religion and we became successful in sidelining oppressive Arab religion forever. It will never be able to play the central role in our politics no matter how much the mullahs try. Pakistan is stuck . It can't get out of the oppressive fist of the arabian Culture because it was born on the basis of it.
بہت خوب ۔ ماشاءاللہ ۔۔ مزہ آ گیا ۔۔ پاکستان کا مطلب کیا ؟؟ لا الہ الا اللہ ۔ جو لوگ کہتے ہیں ۔۔ اس بارہ میرا موقف اس کے خلاف ہے ۔ ایسا نعرہ یا تشریح پورے تحریک پاکستان میں نہیں ہے ۔
recently , parag Agarwal become the ceo of twitter, but he is not the first, google,microsoft,adobe,IBM etc have indian CEO , jinnah died after making pakistam , but nehru didn't , all the IIT's and major education institute in india were started by nehru , ISRO was started by nehru , and IIT bombay where parag Agarwal studied was also started by nehru , i don't want to brag about india , but want to highlight that politicians focusing on education and secular values can make a lot of change in coming years. wondering what could be the history of india and pakistan if jinnah didn't die, anyways good to see people in pakistan calling themselves pakistanis rather than Arabian or turkish .
One of great film I watched about Mr. Jinnah and different history of Pakistan. It helped to conclude that Jinnah was more enlightened, Indian, regionally local and sincere with Muslims not basis of Islam but Pakistani Muslim community.
Sir I will say only one line for you... آپ کی اس وطن اور دین کے لیے کی گئی خدمت کروڑوں پیشہ ور مولانا کی گزری ہوئی زندگی سے بہتر ہے... یہ ہوتی ہے تبلیغ اور یہ ہوتا ہے کسی قوم اور معاشرے کیلئے کی گئی دن رات کی محنت اللہ تعالیٰ آپ کو مزید علم اور شعور عطا فرمائے اور آپ کو آخرت میں کامیابی عطا فرمائے. آمین
Mr. M.A.Jinnah 🔥 The great leader and Freedom Fighter 💯 Doesn't matter he was religious or secular in believes (religious or anything else)the thing which matters is that he fought for the rights of suppressed nation in Sub-Continent
I appreciate the effort! Very good compilation of history. But i can feel there is alot of misinformation and the narrator was biased at many instances. You have included your personal views while telling historic incidents. History should not be biased.
Secularism is a state of mind and culture. Hindu mindset and culture is inherently secular. That is why we visit dargah’s, Shirdi Sai Baba is actually a Muslim, and we have no problem in participating in celebrating moharrum or even Eid. Muslims do not have the mindset as it is not encouraged from childhood. As kids, we never were told Gods of different religions were different, we learnt that from abrahamic faiths.
@@saadzaidi2202 Yes, that more tolerant period of Muslims has passed. Right now Pakistani mentality is to teach and ridicule Hindus in their textbooks from childhood. Most Muslims now are not even wishing others on their festivals, forget about celebrating other’s festival. Recently a Bangladeshi cricketer visited Durga pooja pandal in Calcutta, West Bengal when he was on a trip to India. Bangladeshi fundamentalists we’re after him and was under death threat and he had to apologize which itself is an insult to Hindus. But who can talk to Muslims?
@@saadzaidi2202 Yes, all want the same thing, but if the fundamentalists and non progressives get upper hand then the society slides. And the threshold is not very big number. You just need 2 or 3 percent of population to be stubbornly opinionated and willing to use physical harm, it is sufficient to scare everyone to go silent. Silence is enough for the virus to spread.
@@saadzaidi2202 You underestimate India’s depth of middle class, diverse goals of regional parties, and overestimate loudmouths. BJP and any other party it does not matter will be replaced. Right now on balance Modi is doing well if not on all fronts. There is a reason Kajrewal and Mamata Banerjee win, because Indian people are diverse. It might appear to an outsider that Modi won due to just single reason or agenda. But Indians know much better. Haryana and Punjab are gone for BJP. Rajasthan is with Congress. Bengal with TMC. Regional/linguistic states have different goals, even if BJP leaders form these states make loud noises and make it to headlines in media. Pakistan is not balanced because of Punjabis being a single largest group 60% of the country that dominates others, just sways the boat leg and right, steers without any clear path. India does not have that problem. Modi is only good until he can deliver.
I really appreciate your efforts. I am also not satisfied with the syllabus of Pak affairs that spreads extremism. Yet one thing that I want to correct is... It's not religion that needs criticism but the religious people. I hope you agree. Even the PM of today's Pakistan also uses the religion card.
Unfortunately our any leader of Pakistan didn't got jail or not got any harsh punishment or any harsh movement against Britishers and still we got the independencce it's is BCz of decolonisation
The Great calcutta Killings is being conveniently explained through class-based violence, law and order vacuum because of decolonization etc. A clean chit is also being given to the Muslim league government in bengal. However, Suhrawardy's vitriolic speech, call to Jehad post Friday prayers, calling a public holiday and assuring Muslim goondas that the police would look the other way if they agitate, are responsible for the initial break of violence. Neither is Jinnah's choice of wordings of having a pistol etc that drew on imagery of violence.
@@musicalife859 میں پاکستان میں پیدا ہوا، لیکن میں اپنے آپ کو پنجابی ہی سمجھتا ہوں، پاکستانی کبھی نہیں اپنے آپ کو کہونگا۔ پاکستان استحصال اور ظلم کا نام ہے۔
everytime jinnah try to show that he has the solidarity with Muslims and wants to have a separate state author: He did that or said that only for his political gains
ایف ایس سی میں پڑھنے والی بیٹی کے مطابق " ڈاکڑ تیمور کی جناح کے بارے ویڈیو دیکھ کر جناح کو بہترین انداز میں سمجھنے کا موقع ملا جو اب سے پہلے کبھی نہیں ملا تھا۔" شکریہ محترم
Taimur sir....Wo ek video bnaye , actually communism liberalism or secularism ko kaise critic karta h nd kyo match nhi karta h kya difference hai or kyo plz historical background kya h isme plz ya koi short reply den den mai bhut confused hoon isme , mujhe ye lagta tha ki liberalism to ho skta hai alag chiz h magar secularism to communism practice ma ek part hai....Plz explain and reply
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@@Taimur_Laal Glad to see your reply ❤️.. My point was that it doesn't matter what leaders were thinking 70 years ago. That was a different world. Important is what today's leaders think.
Yeah Gandhi was narrow minded have not only said he was Hindu first in fact he used to abuse him on regular basis because Jinna family converted to islam and he belong to same region as gandhi. So gandhi had lot of grudges against him. Jinna was and is greatest man on earth after Mohammad.
جناح جو بھی تھے لیکن اس سے کوئی فرق نہیں پڑتا یہ ایک نئی دنیا ہے اور اس کی نئی حقیقتیں ہیں ضروری نہیں جس بیس پر ملک بنایا گیا ہو اسے کنٹینیو کیا جاتا رہے اس کو تبدیل بھی کیا جاسکتا ہے جیسے امریکہ میں ہوا
Hi everyone, I a left wing student from India, looking to talk to Pakistani left wing student groups. Ummeed he ki aapas me seekh sakhenge aur ek doosre ki progressive politics ko behtar samajh sakenge. Does anyone know unions which I should reach out to? Any contact details would help immensly!
Sir,how could Mr Jinnah be secular as the sole spokesman of Pakistan. As everybody knows his lifestyle was not anywhere close to that of a devout muslim,but that does not make him secular.
All most every person in Pakistan inspired by Turkey and it is a truth that how much Turkey is desperate to join EU and Side line other Muslim issues in middle east ,even if Turkey joins EU it can not openly Support Palestine . Its not pointing out Turkey but it not only a secular sate but there are many in central Asia which are much more modernized keeping the core values of Islam and their Culture. Religious leaders will never know how to create job Market or Self sustaining economy. Bottom line: Dunia ka koe bhi mazhab kisi ka pethh nhi pal Sakhta. Sir you have done a Great Favor ☺️. Let these people sleep ,after another century these will still talk about what was good but lost 1300 Years ago.
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Comments are indicating that people are really interested in questioning the foundations. That's good 👍. Whoever worked on this project, should be given due credit.
Thank you.
@@MDUmairKh Good job if you contributed to this
Yeah its his project actually.
@@hashirmaxwell5086 I created it. Written, produced and directed by me. Mr. Rehman shared it for more views. He had decent following
Oh my God this is a whole documentary, great work, comment for the algorithm
I love this Dr. Rahman ! You are such a lovely person. Greetings from China
Real History of Pakistan and Jinnah Now I can defend my narrative more affectedly
Not at all. Plz read my comment above.
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Why villanize Sh@ri@h?
Ans : Because It's the best system in the world and Libralism can't compete with it.
How to villanize Shariah?
Ans : Create puppet terrorists and make them claim they are *Islamic*
How to make people stay away from Shariah system?
Ans :
1. Villanize and show Sh@ri@h is terrible and oppresive and brainwash people with this lies by news media and movies etc.
2. Show that secularism / liberalism is the best system.
3. Blame Islam for the failure of secular and liberal Musl!ms countries. (Even though the system in constitution was secularism instead of sh@ri@h.)
There is nothing "real" here. It's mostly intellectual masturbation by mixing in facts with fantasies.
Quaid's Message to the Frontier Muslim Students Federation, June 18, 1945:
"Pakistan not only means freedom and independence but the Muslim Ideology which has to be preserved, which has come to us as a precious gift and treasure and which we hope others will share with us."
My gratitude to you sir for presenting this enlightening and informative documentary to us. I appreciate and acknowledge your effort to put all this together, complete with subtitles and a beautifully done voiceover. Looking forward to more content. God bless.
Md umair did a great work and thank you sir for sharing on your platform.Every one in Pakistan should know who Jinnah really was!
Absolutely brilliant! Thank you very much for putting this out there. Must watch for everyone who calls himself or herself a Pakistani.
Exceptional piece of history, first time learning in a great detail of making of Pakistan. Thank you.
Excellent documentary, thank you for posting this on your channel!
Quaids Message to the Frontier Muslim Students Federation, June 18, 1945:
"Pakistan not only means freedom and independence but the Muslim Ideology which has to be preserved, which has come to us as a precious gift and treasure and which we hope others will share with us."
I must congratulate this meticulously researched film by Umair Khan and Fatimah Javed. Even the voice of Ms. Fatima is so kind and respectful, it brings love and admiration for her. God Bless her. I am from Bangladesh and want peace and prosperity in Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh and they should look upon each other as friends and brothers and sisters of the same mother soil of India. This documentary shows very well that Mr. Jinnah was truly liberal, progressive, and a man of integrity. He was a great leader, Quaid-e- Azam. If Pakistanis followed his ideology, then Pakistan would not have been a hotbed for terrorism and a bankrupt nation as it is now. I hope Pakistanis watch this film and learn humanitarian values. May God Bless the soul of Mr. Jinnah. Amen.
Lmao😂, Pakistan is a secular country with democracy and liberal agenda. Pakistan is living by secualar system. And what did Pakistan get by this? Did they become superpower or something? And to save themselves, Seculars are trying to blame Islam for the failure of secular Pakistan, while Pakistan was never a Islamic state. Jinnah was a Secular Urdu Nationalist r@cist piece of sh!t, who used Islam to gain power and betray muslims of sub-continent.
Pristine. Well researched. Sir Taimur always inspires me with his intellect. Now, with this piece I've learned many new things which were even missed by Wolpert - wonderful.
Amazing work, it is far better then a 2 hours movie, stay blessed
I was waiting For New Update from You 😊
thank you sir. you open our nation eyes .... i will share my family, friends and fellows
Sir please make a series on European history.You already done Arab Israel series 👍which partially covers Cold war events but it would be very helpful if pre-Arab-israel conflicts (Napoleonic wars,World wars ) are covered
Thanks
oh my God ... I don't know how can I explain my feelings for Jinnah! my Leader....
today I m going to say with tears in my eyes that I seriously not too much liked or admired Quaid e Azzam because of this kind of Pakistan but now I accept there is no any perfect leader like him..."
actually I always see this country through the glasses of Secularism now I came to know that this land actually gained by him 4 the purpose of Secular Democratic state...
Lots of Respect and Love 4 him.... Quaid e Azzam Zindabaad !✋
and lastly 4 uh Guys... ur work is Excellent keep it up.....
Behold to this channel for such kind of information.
Jinnah was an admirer of Kemal Ataturk and his secular policies for the rest of his life
The background music on this documentary is amazing.
The point is, Jinnah never mentioned the word secular in any of his speeches, and mentioned the state being based on Islamic principles on several occasions. Regardless of what his intentions were, he's ended up creating a semi-theocratic democracy (or so he intended, until generals decided to jump in on statecrafting). And btw, upholding Jinnah as this sort of standard to aspire to is something I find really laughable within Pakistani liberal circles. Given that Kashmiri independence was undermined by Jinnah's invasion of Kashmir, and Balochistan was forcefully occupied by Pakistan. Bacha Khan - the only secular leader who encouraged his people to read and rid themselves off the shackles of blood feuds was deemed a traitor and since then the ANP and secular Pashtuns have been targeted by the Pakistani state.
At the end of the day, you cannot deny that Jinnah himself was responsible for the mess we are in. Even Jinnah uttered these words on his death bed when he said, "Pakistan was the greatest mistake of my life".
Just ask yourself, how can a state made to safeguard the interests of a religious group and their religion, ever become secular? The very basis of Pakistani nationhood is Islam. Take Islam out of Pakistan and you won't have a Pakistan. Such is not the case for historical regions like Iran, India, Punjab, Sindh, Balochistan etc. So the question of separating religion from state in a country whose entire reason to exist is religion, is pointless. Either you advocate for Pakistan, or like myself, secular nation states based on common language. Pakistan is done. And I say that as someone who is from there.
There are very few critical voices in the country who have the courage to call a spade a spade.
Btw I would like to know the source where Jinnah said that Pakistan was his greatest mistake, out of curiosity.
Do books published outside Pakistan mention this? They do mention that he was fond of his whiskey and pork and bacon, but in Pakistan these passages have been removed to give Jinnah an Islamic outlook.
While I agree on the fact that Jinnah never mentioned verbally that Pakistan was not associated with the religion, I’d like to disagree with this invasive remark, as well as the Indian doctrinaire that Baloch are apparently going through a national apartheid, because I’m a Baloch, and I, my relatives and my friends are very happy to be Pakistanis if I say so myself. In regards to Pashtuns, this nationalist movement actually sprung up from Afghanistan, not Pakistan. If you take a national poll to see how many Pashtuns would actually like independence and secularism, I can guarantee that the “for” notion would not proceed above 20% at max, for Pashtuns are some of Pro-Pakistani nationalists around. In regards to Kashmir, there wasn’t invasion by either side. The majority of the state wanted to join Pakistan, however, since the Maharaja was a Hindu, he chose independence. At first, it was all okay, until Pakistani dacoits and looters invaded Kashmir, all the while the Maharaja, out of a regard of acquiring security, signed the deal to India. During this period, both India and Pakistan invaded to claim what they believed to rightfully be theirs. Ever since, there’s been a nonstop battle between the two states. Thanks! - M
@@mul-el3657 I think despite how politically charged and heated these conversations are, it's always refreshing to read a well-written and mature reply, so thank you for that.
Regarding the Baloch movement for justice as simply Indian doctrine is something I disagree with. While I do think that India has an interest in using Balochistan as their trump card, in case Pakistan talks about human rights violations in Kashmir, I would be careful about framing that as an Indian movement.
The recent incidents in Hoshab, and the murders of Baloch human rights activists abroad have further fuelled resentment within Balochistan. This is evidenced by the recent protests in Gwadar, where people are chanting "death to Pakistan" and "long live Balochistan". Maulana Rehman said in one of his speeches that "FC is the biggest cancer in Balochistan". Recently, a video went viral where students at Quetta (I think) University celebrated the victory of Australia over Pakistan in the t20 series. Such resentment has not really existed on such a mass scale, or if it had, we were never exposed to it as much as we are now.
Now, I'll be honest and I'll say: I do not know what the scale of this problem is! What I do know, is that there is a media blackout on Balochistan. While these protests were happening, the only news coming out of Balochistan was a kukkar fight in some village. People who have reported or written about Balochistan from the point of view of the Baloch have been either killed or attacked, or sent into exile. This tells me that the Paki establishment is very serious about keeping us in the dark about what's happening. And this makes me suspicious that actually the scale of the problem is probably far larger than any of us can imagine. I have no reason to doubt you are a Baloch, but I know a far larger number of Baloch who disagree with you entirely, and would rather die than call themselves Pakistani.
Best, tc.
@@Literally-hw6jv Thank you for your reply. I don’t really have a lot of time for incredibly grammatical messaging, so I’ll simply debunk the claim of the so-called “Baloch Genocide.” See, Pakistan has five provinces: Punjab, Afghania, Kashmir, Sindh & Balochistan. In terms of our geography, we are located with hostile neighbours who surround our borders (i.e. India, Afghanistan, Pakistani Taliban, the Iranian Regime, ISIS-K) and then there’s Balochistan’s location. An undiscovered amount of petroleum, oil and diamonds reserved in a desert. In Pakistan, there exists a lot of military influence and operational demand in Balochistan due to it’s regional safety issues. These issues are present due to a man known as Mohsin Dawar, the founder of National Democratic Movement, a “sellout” party. In the “open secret” political system of Pakistan, there is a well known fact that this man is the one who has armed and provided TTP militants with arms and weapons. It’s rather comparable to Iraq, really. A nation that’s surrounded with so much hostility that it requires military support and arm at all times to maintain stability. Just to prove Baloch equality, we can, say point out Baloch actors: Feroze Khan, Waqar Baloch, Hafeez Lal or Emaad Irfani. While I agree on the previous atrocities committed by Pakistan such as the Bengal genocide that was carried out by a racist Sindhi (ZAB), this Baloch genocidal propaganda is simply not true. Hope you understand that this is not just my blind love for my country, as I will indeed always stand against what isn’t right.
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@@mul-el3657 No worries. Just to point out that I did not mention "genocide" anywhere. I only mentioned the Pakistan Army's murder and suppression of Baloch civilians. And, you haven't really "debunked" anything, you've just made claims. E.g. "Mohsin Dawar runs a sellout party" and "armed TTP militants". Mohsin Dawar's entire career has come out of criticising the Pakistan Army for supporting the Taliban and TTP. He does not make distinctions between good and bad Taliban like many in Pakistan do.
Also, there's a reason why Pakistan's neighbours are hostile. Firstly, I wouldn't class Iran as "hostile". There are border issues, but largely Pakistan and Iran see eye to eye on more than Pakistan's more immediate neighbours. I don't support the Indian state for its actions in Kashmir, but looking at it objectively, Pakistan is the hostile neighbour to India more than vice versa. All Indo-Pak wars were started by Pakistan, and ended more or less in either defeat or status quo ante bellum. Kashmiri independence itself was undermined by Pakistan when Pakistan decided to send tribals across the border, making the Maharaja nervous and ask the Indians to come to his aid. I will concede though that Afghanistan did try to invoke Pashtun nationalist sentiments in Pakistan, and for that it has paid the price. However, Pakistan hasn't really made things easy for itself by choosing to ally with the Taliban. The Taliban are known in Afghanistan as staunch Pashtun nationalists, and have never accepted the Durand Line. So by allying itself with the Taliban, Pakistan has chosen Islamic fundamentalist Pashtun nationalists, over secular Pashtun nationalists. It would have made far more sense strategically to have allied with the government in Kabul from 2001 onwards, which unlike the communist regimes were less Pashtun centric and more "national". So, as unfortunate as Pakistan has been, it hasn't made things any better for itself.
I really Loved this, Sir, may you please recommend certain books that can help me see the Partition and pre partition politics on a much comprehensive scale..
I request you to Please print the total text in a shape of Booklet. Easy to read and as a reference too
This is the one of the most pristine of works, I have ever seen on Mr. Jinnah. I am from India, and loved this documentary. An amazingly well put together one. Truly, he was the most liberal man, the subcontinent has ever known; will ever know (unfortunately), for years to come.
The way I see the first half of 20th century history of the subcontinent, as related to India and Pakistan; the core conflict between INC and Mr. Jinnah, was that of authority and liberty, respectively. The INCans (moderates/centrists) were Hamiltonian nationalists, whereas Mr. Jinnah was a Jeffersonian republican. The history of 20th c British India has some remarkable parallels with the early United States’ history. The making of the US constitution in 1787, the conflicts between federalists (nationalists/strong central government) and antifederalists (democratic-republicans/strong state governments) in the early American republic, are quite similar to that of the subcontinent’s history.
Nehru and Patel were Hamiltonians, who prioritized in territoriality and centrality, over democratic process. Jinnah and his close allies, were Jeffersonians, who believed in Jeffersonian principles of wall of separation between church and state, democratization of ownership of property, republican form of governments, concurrent majorities, states’ rights and autonomy (not sovereignty), and so on.
Jinnah was a Lockean just like Jefferson. Nehru and Co. were not. They were utilitarians, at best. The direct result of which, is what we see in India, today. Tyranny of some of the populous states states (cow belt) over others through aggressive take over of central legislature (parliament), on the basis of religion and religious fanaticism. The Hamiltonians (Nehru and Co) were the architect of the present day crisis in India. Absolute rule of parliament, parliamentary sovereignty, Supreme Court sovereignty, states’ subordinacy, unitary powers with residual powers vested in a central government- all recipes of despotism and dictatorship.
Love live, Mr. Jinnah!
A true liberal republican, through and through.
A Jeffersonian.
*long live
You’ve put it very well. But still Jinnah had failed to create a perfect secular state with godless constitution ironically. In my opinion, it was because he ran out of much options due to abrupt changes in political atmosphere of India from 1940s.
@@nerdy4172 I dont think this was about him failing to do anything. The man was dying and hadn't got much time left. He left it to the people, and the democratic process, to take it from where he was leaving.
Very impressive analysis but it should also be mentioned that the Jinnah you're describing is the Jinnah of pre-pakistan movement. He held the leadership of the Pakistan-movement out of spite after sensing his apparent ideological divide with the Congress and totally gave up on his ideological principles. This is why what became Pakistan was ideologically totally in contrast to the philosophy of Locke and Jefferson. In a way, he ended up creating exactly what he was opposing and even a more radical form of it.
Yaa that's why you don't have East Pakistan with you(Pakistani Fake ID) now
We lost him too early, what a marvel men Jinnah was ❤️❤️.
A tragedy of cosmic proportions, almost made me cry. Kaash mera watan Jinnah k ideals ko pehchaan ley
"even in 1887 john bright showed/hinted the inclination to divide india" jinnah told beverky nichols in an interview
Why this documentary is so different from Dr Ishtiaq books and Explanations? Now who is correct??
Thank you for making this video we need more people like you God bless you
Sir kindly make a video on Bentham philosophy. Your lectures are amazing you clearing such difficult concepts so easily.
More power to you sir❤️
kindly add download option in your videos. Thanks
Previously I watched documentaries on Ghandhi and Nehru, which although, were captivating but had always portrayed Jinnah negatively and with contempt. This documentary is really the depiction of greatness of our Quaid, and can be regarded as a great work towards understanding the partition. Amazing,.......I am obliged to your efforts, keep it up. Such an interesting and genuine view of Jinnah's personality which needs to be viewed again and again.
48:37 it's ashame that never happened and its still not happening 😒
51:08 onwards, that is so true
56:03 indeed jinnah's reply to that completely fits in with the condition of today's Pakistan
Sir jee try to make precise and short videos on these topics so that everyone has time to listen and gain within short period of time.
Quaid e azam on islamic state ...
Message to the Frontier Muslim Students Federation, June 18, 1945:
"Pakistan not only means freedom and independence but the Muslim Ideology which has to be preserved, which has come to us as a precious gift and treasure and which we hope others will share with us."
Very Good Informative video But if you saying Quaid was shiya (ismaili) any evidence do you have?
Please make a video on orthodox,protestant and Catholic
ڈاکٹر صاحب کوئی اکانومی تے وی ویڈیو چاڑو۔ بہت برا ہال اے اجکل۔
Sir plz do a vedio on Iqbal and sir Syed as well .. thank you
plz share ur views on political and religious reforms in Saudi Arabia
1:49:47-1:50:04 should show/tell this to extremists of Pakistan
Eagerly waiting for new video
This is why 1971 was a great feat for my country Bangladesh. My country was born on the basis of language and culture not religion and we became successful in sidelining oppressive Arab religion forever. It will never be able to play the central role in our politics no matter how much the mullahs try. Pakistan is stuck . It can't get out of the oppressive fist of the arabian Culture because it was born on the basis of it.
Thank you so much. The most comprehensive history listen
بہت خوب ۔ ماشاءاللہ ۔۔
مزہ آ گیا ۔۔
پاکستان کا مطلب کیا ؟؟ لا الہ الا اللہ ۔
جو لوگ کہتے ہیں ۔۔
اس بارہ میرا موقف اس کے خلاف ہے ۔
ایسا نعرہ یا تشریح پورے تحریک پاکستان میں نہیں ہے ۔
After watching this my opinion is now bold and my respect for Quaid e Azam📈
recently , parag Agarwal become the ceo of twitter, but he is not the first, google,microsoft,adobe,IBM etc have indian CEO , jinnah died after making pakistam , but nehru didn't , all the IIT's and major education institute in india were started by nehru , ISRO was started by nehru , and IIT bombay where parag Agarwal studied was also started by nehru , i don't want to brag about india , but want to highlight that politicians focusing on education and secular values can make a lot of change in coming years. wondering what could be the history of india and pakistan if jinnah didn't die, anyways good to see people in pakistan calling themselves pakistanis rather than Arabian or turkish .
Congratulations Sir on 100k, upload a special 💯 k video ❤️❤️
One of great film I watched about Mr. Jinnah and different history of Pakistan.
It helped to conclude that Jinnah was more enlightened, Indian, regionally local and sincere with Muslims not basis of Islam but Pakistani Muslim community.
Sir I will say only one line for you...
آپ کی اس وطن اور دین کے لیے کی گئی خدمت کروڑوں پیشہ ور مولانا کی گزری ہوئی زندگی سے بہتر ہے...
یہ ہوتی ہے تبلیغ اور یہ ہوتا ہے کسی قوم اور معاشرے کیلئے کی گئی دن رات کی محنت اللہ تعالیٰ آپ کو مزید علم اور شعور عطا فرمائے اور آپ کو آخرت میں کامیابی عطا فرمائے. آمین
Mr. M.A.Jinnah 🔥
The great leader and Freedom Fighter 💯 Doesn't matter he was religious or secular in believes (religious or anything else)the thing which matters is that he fought for the rights of suppressed nation in Sub-Continent
@@soldierofislam1 TTP is still terrorist organisation.
I appreciate the effort! Very good compilation of history. But i can feel there is alot of misinformation and the narrator was biased at many instances. You have included your personal views while telling historic incidents. History should not be biased.
Awesome documentary but you should write this in textual form
The Real question is: Are Indian Citizens and Pakistani citizens secular??
Spoiler alert: they are not
Hey! Could you please list the citations for your documentary please.
Secularism is a state of mind and culture. Hindu mindset and culture is inherently secular. That is why we visit dargah’s, Shirdi Sai Baba is actually a Muslim, and we have no problem in participating in celebrating moharrum or even Eid. Muslims do not have the mindset as it is not encouraged from childhood. As kids, we never were told Gods of different religions were different, we learnt that from abrahamic faiths.
@@saadzaidi2202 Yes, that more tolerant period of Muslims has passed. Right now Pakistani mentality is to teach and ridicule Hindus in their textbooks from childhood. Most Muslims now are not even wishing others on their festivals, forget about celebrating other’s festival. Recently a Bangladeshi cricketer visited Durga pooja pandal in Calcutta, West Bengal when he was on a trip to India. Bangladeshi fundamentalists we’re after him and was under death threat and he had to apologize which itself is an insult to Hindus. But who can talk to Muslims?
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@@saadzaidi2202 Yes, all want the same thing, but if the fundamentalists and non progressives get upper hand then the society slides. And the threshold is not very big number. You just need 2 or 3 percent of population to be stubbornly opinionated and willing to use physical harm, it is sufficient to scare everyone to go silent. Silence is enough for the virus to spread.
@@saadzaidi2202 You underestimate India’s depth of middle class, diverse goals of regional parties, and overestimate loudmouths. BJP and any other party it does not matter will be replaced. Right now on balance Modi is doing well if not on all fronts. There is a reason Kajrewal and Mamata Banerjee win, because Indian people are diverse. It might appear to an outsider that Modi won due to just single reason or agenda. But Indians know much better. Haryana and Punjab are gone for BJP. Rajasthan is with Congress. Bengal with TMC. Regional/linguistic states have different goals, even if BJP leaders form these states make loud noises and make it to headlines in media. Pakistan is not balanced because of Punjabis being a single largest group 60% of the country that dominates others, just sways the boat leg and right, steers without any clear path. India does not have that problem. Modi is only good until he can deliver.
@@saadzaidi2202 there was nothing called muslim culture, every part of your so called muslim world got their culture from their pre religio society
Such a confusion and chaos, this is my Pakistan....
دل خون کے آنسوں روتا ہے
Sir, have u ever looked at yourself in the mirror and thought, oh i look like Z.A bhutto
No :)
@@Taimur_Laal Sir aisa bhi kiya dabbao tha Liaqat A Khan ke upar?
Hahahaha, I recently saw his picture and thought for a moment that he was Bilawal.
I really appreciate your efforts. I am also not satisfied with the syllabus of Pak affairs that spreads extremism. Yet one thing that I want to correct is... It's not religion that needs criticism but the religious people. I hope you agree. Even the PM of today's Pakistan also uses the religion card.
Yeah I like IK and I want him to come back but I do agree that even he uses the relegion card
Long time no see!!
Wo to khud apni zyaati zindagi ma seculer te lekin Hindustan ko thor kar nafrat ki aag lagayie
Muslims are so oppressed that I've heard that even in Jannah there are voices for a separate homeland to escape Allah's atrocities.
Unfortunately our any leader of Pakistan didn't got jail or not got any harsh punishment or any harsh movement against Britishers and still we got the independencce it's is BCz of decolonisation
Pakistani politicians did not, but Indian politicians including Nehru went to jail.
@@dollartreeshark6786 yes Indian leaders were utopian socialist
Sir i am waiting of your lecture on dark side of liberalism ,please share with us
Thankyou!
The Great calcutta Killings is being conveniently explained through class-based violence, law and order vacuum because of decolonization etc. A clean chit is also being given to the Muslim league government in bengal.
However, Suhrawardy's vitriolic speech, call to Jehad post Friday prayers, calling a public holiday and assuring Muslim goondas that the police would look the other way if they agitate, are responsible for the initial break of violence.
Neither is Jinnah's choice of wordings of having a pistol etc that drew on imagery of violence.
PAKISTAN WAS MEANT TO BE A MODERN AND SECULAR STATE WITH INGREDIENTS LIKE FREEDOM OF SPEECH, TOLERANCE AND ACCEPTANCE.
Molanas ruined the concept of Pakistan
@@comictube1831 The concept of Pakistan itself is flawed. Nothing to do with Mawlanas, they just take Pakistan to its logical conclusion.
@@Literally-hw6jv Ap Pakistani hai kia?
@@musicalife859 میں پاکستان میں پیدا ہوا، لیکن میں اپنے آپ کو پنجابی ہی سمجھتا ہوں، پاکستانی کبھی نہیں اپنے آپ کو کہونگا۔ پاکستان استحصال اور ظلم کا نام ہے۔
@@Literally-hw6jv so what do you want?? Independent Punjab??
such a good documentary, it needs to be shown in universities to let the people know about secularism
It was never secualr this is false how can it be secular
1:24:25 goosebumps
Quid e azam was our freedom leader,and he did his job, and we got a separate home land we are grateful to him
Sir kindly give all the references for this video
everytime jinnah try to show that he has the solidarity with Muslims and wants to have a separate state author: He did that or said that only for his political gains
Thanx You are A Good Teacher.
ایف ایس سی میں پڑھنے والی بیٹی کے مطابق " ڈاکڑ تیمور کی جناح کے بارے ویڈیو دیکھ کر جناح کو بہترین انداز میں سمجھنے کا موقع ملا جو اب سے پہلے کبھی نہیں ملا تھا۔" شکریہ محترم
Sir can you please provide the English transcript of this video?
Kindly mention the sources from where the data has been accessed. Thanks
Islamic Republic of Pakistan and Republic of India 🇮🇳🇵🇰
I want such explanatory stories on Marxism. Appreciate your efforts
Sir agar aap short clips banaye to logo ko b asani ho gi son, ny Samajnay ma or aap ki viewership bi increase ho gi
Taimur sir....Wo ek video bnaye , actually communism liberalism or secularism ko kaise critic karta h nd kyo match nhi karta h kya difference hai or kyo plz historical background kya h isme plz ya koi short reply den den mai bhut confused hoon isme , mujhe ye lagta tha ki liberalism to ho skta hai alag chiz h magar secularism to communism practice ma ek part hai....Plz explain and reply
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People: Was Jinnah a secular?
Me: Does it really matter?
Those who do not know history are condemned to repeat it.
@@Taimur_Laal Glad to see your reply ❤️..
My point was that it doesn't matter what leaders were thinking 70 years ago. That was a different world. Important is what today's leaders think.
@@Taimur_Laal The only lesson we learned from History is that no one learns from History.
I agree. Jinnah does not own Pakistan, it’s people do. So the real question is what do Pakistanis want?
@@dollartreeshark6786 a secular country rather than a theocracy
Master piece.
Sir ya vedio download nahi ho rahi
Mind blowing
Indians and Pakistanis must see it
To overcome the problems they are facing now
Jonah was a role model for subcontinent Muslim.
Plz tell all your references at the end of vedio or in description
a very informative session....
Taimur Sahab,,, falsafe pe to videos banaien plzzzzz
Yeah Gandhi was narrow minded have not only said he was Hindu first in fact he used to abuse him on regular basis because Jinna family converted to islam and he belong to same region as gandhi. So gandhi had lot of grudges against him. Jinna was and is greatest man on earth after Mohammad.
It is funny that Gandhi is hated by Hindutvas today.
Thats a great documentary
جناح جو بھی تھے لیکن اس سے کوئی فرق نہیں پڑتا یہ ایک نئی دنیا ہے اور اس کی نئی حقیقتیں ہیں ضروری نہیں جس بیس پر ملک بنایا گیا ہو اسے کنٹینیو کیا جاتا رہے اس کو تبدیل بھی کیا جاسکتا ہے جیسے امریکہ میں ہوا
Those who do not know history are condemned to repeat it.
Iam very much surprised after watching this video...
Hi everyone, I a left wing student from India, looking to talk to Pakistani left wing student groups. Ummeed he ki aapas me seekh sakhenge aur ek doosre ki progressive politics ko behtar samajh sakenge.
Does anyone know unions which I should reach out to? Any contact details would help immensly!
Can I get references of information in this video?
Thank you Dr. Taimur, for letting me experience the true history of my nation. Too much to bear at once :(
بہترین ویڈیو ہے مگر ڈاکڑ تیمور کی آواز میں ہوتی تو کہیں زیادہ ہر اثر ہوتی۔
This is not acceptable for me, but I haven't any fact to prove you wrong.
Nehru report was presented in Aug,1928.
Sir,how could Mr Jinnah be secular as the sole spokesman of Pakistan. As everybody knows his lifestyle was not anywhere close to that of a devout muslim,but that does not make him secular.
All most every person in Pakistan inspired by Turkey and it is a truth that how much Turkey is desperate to join EU and Side line other Muslim issues in middle east ,even if Turkey joins EU it can not openly Support Palestine . Its not pointing out Turkey but it not only a secular sate but there are many in central Asia which are much more modernized keeping the core values of Islam and their Culture. Religious leaders will never know how to create job Market or Self sustaining economy.
Bottom line: Dunia ka koe bhi mazhab kisi ka pethh nhi pal Sakhta.
Sir you have done a Great Favor ☺️.
Let these people sleep ,after another century these will still talk about what was good but lost 1300 Years ago.