Thank you everyone for enjoying this latest video and for your comments, as always we couldn’t do this without the feedback and even my 3 always present thumbs downers.. thank you for watching!
I just wanted to thank you for the very detailed, professional insight into these little mysteries - watch dials :) My interest in watches has been gradually increasing in the past several years and have recently acquired a vintage 1960s Seiko The dial has deteriorated slightly, but its still very usable! Would it be possible to do a video on the most prominent designs over the decades? I know it is a very lengthy topic, but it is very interesting how dial sizes and watch cases have been increasing in size. Thank you once again
Great educational video. I am a new watch enthusiast and I like getting into the details about watches. One thing that I think would be interesting is to take your same discussion and discuss manufacturing costs of some of these different materials. I would not want you to share proprietary information, but it would be nice to pull back the curtain so we can have an idea when we see an enamel dial, we know what it costs to make versus a linen dial. Thanks for a great video, Michael.
Thanks Mike, this is one of the most interesting and educational videos on watches I have seen in quite some time. I really enjoyed it. That Lapis dial on the Rolex is stunning.
Best dail video on the hole of TH-cam superb job loved every second. Now I own several sunburst dails. How are those made do you make a part 2 of this video greets from the Netherlands
I am certain you have seen the Piaget dials from the 1970's through 1990's. The Lapis, Malachite, Mother of Pearl with diamonds and sometimes only with gold dot markers were truly breathtaking to see and appreciate the artistry. Also, EBEL did some wonderful dials back in the 1990's to the present in their collection of watches. Usually with diamond markers, especially when you think, just how did they achieve this? Amazing work.
I have been looking for quite some time for a watch with a mirror dial, like the ones on technical instruments like voltage and ampere meters. I still haven't found one.
Great, great video. Two-toned "art deco" dials are my favourite. Wonder what were They using for putting this extra satin finish for vintage dials. All the best!
While I was watching this wondering if there is any new kind of material for dials and finishes that haven't been tried yet? Maybe something crazy like a diamond or ruby or eve a jade stone that has been laser-cut paper-thin? I don't know just thinking out loud.
Big question of mine is vintage 1940s-1970s military matte black dials... like the typical vitnam era type 2 dial. how were they produced to get such a matte even black color? I imagine its some sort of oxide plating.
Carbon fiber in blue might be good. We have something in car word called fade paint job were two colors get spray next to and over each other to fade into each other.
What constitutes an "Exotic" dial? I got the general idea from context, but when I try to search a technical definition, all I get are Paul Newman Daytona results.
Interesting. Do very cheap watches sometimes do paper faces? And what is in my Longines Conquest blue dial quartz? It seems to my eye aluminum with some slight sunburst effect done by scraping the metal. Are the hands steel?
This is an excellent video and seems to be one of the only decent ones . Do you know any books on watch dial types / history in English? Le cadran looks great but believe is only in french.
Are there classes for people wanting to learn how to make Guilloche? I know they use a rose turning engine to make it, but assuming I (somehow) have access to a rose engine, I'd like to learn how to make my own Guilloche dials.
Thank you for that very educating video. I wish I could give more than one like. I really appreciate the knowledge of an actual watchmaker. Keep Mike coming, please. ;-)
I was so happy to hear him say that porcelain is one of his favorites. I get so sick of all the fancy stuff. That’s just my opinion don’t get me wrong…but It’s just been so overdone. I’ve actually owned a rose engine lathe and helped reproduce one also…. and don’t get me wrong they can do some incredible and beautiful things. that machine was probably one of the coolest historic artifacts that I’ve ever had in my laboratory. But timeless design wins out always. That doesn’t mean everyone has to agree, but a truly refined taste, someone that’s been around this shit for decades and seen all the fads, owned all the tools, and has tried everything… You will usually see them have the most classic of tastes and palette. Doesn’t mean you can’t like crazy fancy weird stuff too… But if you had to pick one to wear for the rest of your life… I would want a 57 Chevrolet of watches not some big Ferrari with rims and a subwoofer system and flames painted on the side. Hope that comparison isn’t too extreme 😂 By the way as somebody who’s sliced up dozens of bodies in my basement… Oh shit I didn’t mean that I meant as somebody who’s sliced up pounds and pounds of meteorright over the last decade and a half…. I’ve sliced up shit loads of meteoright over the last 2 decades, I think Rolex is slabbing the stuff up and leaving it thick enough so that they can grind it on an angle of the grain. Basically like cutting a 45° across woodgrain instead of looking at it straight on or straight from the side like you’re used to seeing it. And since he was talking about burls in the video… Meteorites are like the wooden burls of metals. They have no uniform grain… kind of goes every witch way in knots. But you can kind of get an idea for each piece and grind it so that you get the effect wanted.
sorry, but i really need to know ... why can't dials just be thicker? ok i understand when you're trying to make it really thinly transparent, or when you're repurposing a case designed for a thin metal dial, but it sounds like manufacturers are unnecessarily obsessed with thin dials. also, we have porcelain-coated metal, but i'm not aware of dials made of straight ceramic. but it seems like an ok material for the job. comments?
Hi. I need help build my first custom made watch. can i use 32mm dial to in 32.6mm dial size case. The dial size is 32mm and case require 32.6 - 33.9. if anyone have any ideas please let me know. Thank you
He doesn't seem to fully understand meteor dials. It's not a specific cut, or anything that Rolex does differently. It's just a specific meteor that they use. The inner structure is part of the meteor properties, not the way someone cuts it.
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Thank you everyone for enjoying this latest video and for your comments, as always we couldn’t do this without the feedback and even my 3 always present thumbs downers.. thank you for watching!
I just wanted to thank you for the very detailed, professional insight into these little mysteries - watch dials :)
My interest in watches has been gradually increasing in the past several years and have recently acquired a vintage 1960s Seiko
The dial has deteriorated slightly, but its still very usable!
Would it be possible to do a video on the most prominent designs over the decades? I know it is a very lengthy topic, but it is very interesting how dial sizes and watch cases have been increasing in size.
Thank you once again
Deeply cool, thanks
Very educational. Thanks for making this episode.
Great video no nonsense no messing around just solid info delivered by someone who clearly knows their stuff and is passionate about it.
Great educational video. I am a new watch enthusiast and I like getting into the details about watches. One thing that I think would be interesting is to take your same discussion and discuss manufacturing costs of some of these different materials. I would not want you to share proprietary information, but it would be nice to pull back the curtain so we can have an idea when we see an enamel dial, we know what it costs to make versus a linen dial. Thanks for a great video, Michael.
Thanks Mike, this is one of the most interesting and educational videos on watches I have seen in quite some time. I really enjoyed it. That Lapis dial on the Rolex is stunning.
Loved this video!! So much packed in
MM is a freaking stud!!!! I love listening to his narratives! Somebody get that man a bourbon, cigar, and easy chair! Next lesson please MM! 👍
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Best dail video on the hole of TH-cam superb job loved every second. Now I own several sunburst dails. How are those made do you make a part 2 of this video greets from the Netherlands
Wow. One of my favorite videos on materials and the process of applying them. Very cool. Thanks
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amazing video, captivating until the end.
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This is very helpful for explaining the cost of certain watches. Producing some of these dials mentioned I imagine require very high technology.
I am certain you have seen the Piaget dials from the 1970's through 1990's. The Lapis, Malachite, Mother of Pearl with diamonds and sometimes only with gold dot markers were truly breathtaking to see and appreciate the artistry. Also, EBEL did some wonderful dials back in the 1990's to the present in their collection of watches. Usually with diamond markers, especially when you think, just how did they achieve this? Amazing work.
Nice and professional information, I would like to make my own dial but not sure what to use still lot of confusion
Excellent, informative video. Very professionally done. Keep up the good work!
This is fascinating. I wish I was in the watch industry. Love any information I can get on them. Great video
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I have been looking for quite some time for a watch with a mirror dial, like the ones on technical instruments like voltage and ampere meters. I still haven't found one.
01:43 I wonder if Seiko has ever made skeleton watches with Hardlex? Because THAT is less brittle than sapphire.
Very well done and precise
You gotta get this guy on another episode oh my god!!!!!!!!!
You will definitely be seeing more of him in the future!
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Great, great video. Two-toned "art deco" dials are my favourite. Wonder what were They using for putting this extra satin finish for vintage dials. All the best!
Just watched your video and discovered that I have a watch with a porcelain dial, bought it some years ago 👍😁
While I was watching this wondering if there is any new kind of material for dials and finishes that haven't been tried yet? Maybe something crazy like a diamond or ruby or eve a jade stone that has been laser-cut paper-thin? I don't know just thinking out loud.
Great stuff, Mike. That laurent ferrier world time: my goodness the beauty.
Umm...that video was awesome! Informative, entertaining, keep them coming.
Great video. Enjoyed it very much. Educational and I like the way you go from technical to personal preference. Thank you!
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Awesome video. How are sunburst dials made?
Thank you , it was a very knowledgeable video 🙏
This is a brilliant video. Thx for dropping that knowledge on us.
Big question of mine is vintage 1940s-1970s military matte black dials... like the typical vitnam era type 2 dial. how were they produced to get such a matte even black color? I imagine its some sort of oxide plating.
Very good information. Is there a way to create dials as a DIY project for a simple watch for a crafter?
Carbon fiber in blue might be good. We have something in car word called fade paint job were two colors get spray next to and over each other to fade into each other.
What constitutes an "Exotic" dial? I got the general idea from context, but when I try to search a technical definition, all I get are Paul Newman Daytona results.
Shawn Richards The materials, meteorite for example, stone or MOP dials are unique by nature.
Super interesting. Excellent video!
Interesting. Do very cheap watches sometimes do paper faces? And what is in my Longines Conquest blue dial quartz? It seems to my eye aluminum with some slight sunburst effect done by scraping the metal.
Are the hands steel?
thank you for this very interesting youtube. i guess the only thing i personally missed was aventurine dials
Eric Gorter Never use scripts so it’s hard to include all the content running around in what’s left of my mind 🤯
This is an excellent video and seems to be one of the only decent ones . Do you know any books on watch dial types / history in English? Le cadran looks great but believe is only in french.
Excellent presentation, thank you very much. Subscribed.
Great video! Super interesting!! Thanks Mike
Very very interesting. Thank you!
Great episode Mike.
Thank you for the valuable information
The shipwreck coin is awesome! SR-71 titanium turkey feather dial is the coolest I’ve ever heard of.
I love enamel over guillochè! RGM will make you a custom pattern that you designed yourself.
Or you could go with flinque which combines both.
siniolchu I love the flinque dials from GO!
IMO Grand seiko makes a a very beautiful dials. I was hoping they were mentioned in this video.
Agreed and Seiko makes some ridiculously beautiful dials, for personal reasons as a Watchmaker I’m just not a huge fan.
@@michaelmichaels471 thanks for a very informative video. :)
Wow incredible video. Just trying to explore singer dials
Are there classes for people wanting to learn how to make Guilloche? I know they use a rose turning engine to make it, but assuming I (somehow) have access to a rose engine, I'd like to learn how to make my own Guilloche dials.
Thank you for that very educating video. I wish I could give more than one like. I really appreciate the knowledge of an actual watchmaker. Keep Mike coming, please. ;-)
oxysoxos Love doing these too, keep watching and we’ll keep making them!
Super great video, Cudos!!
Informative... I want a Laurent Ferrier! I want an enamel dial FP Journe!
I can’t thank you enough. Enjoyed it
I think the watches they make now will not change at all, ceramic... that is why people by vintage for the charm. Very intresting review, thanks
Tom Lucas That’s my thought as well, don’t know if it’s good or bad but what you see and buy now will look he same way in 15-20 years.
Wondering if I could send you a photo of my Seiko dial which is peeling (enamel?). I want to try to restore it. Thanks.
Love these videos! Thank you.
That was excellent! Thank you!
Make more of this videos very good
Is it possible to replace the watch hour indexes
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How do they paint the dials? Such as changing the colors of the whole dial or making gradient colors on the dial?
I'd like a meteorite dial Rolex.
Rolex Meteroid Dials are outstanding
You have a new subscriber, I am glad I found this.
Welcome to the channel! We are glad that you found us.
Very interesting Sensai 👍
Where I can order a custom dial in 14k gold?
I was so happy to hear him say that porcelain is one of his favorites. I get so sick of all the fancy stuff. That’s just my opinion don’t get me wrong…but It’s just been so overdone. I’ve actually owned a rose engine lathe and helped reproduce one also…. and don’t get me wrong they can do some incredible and beautiful things. that machine was probably one of the coolest historic artifacts that I’ve ever had in my laboratory.
But timeless design wins out always. That doesn’t mean everyone has to agree, but a truly refined taste, someone that’s been around this shit for decades and seen all the fads, owned all the tools, and has tried everything… You will usually see them have the most classic of tastes and palette. Doesn’t mean you can’t like crazy fancy weird stuff too… But if you had to pick one to wear for the rest of your life… I would want a 57 Chevrolet of watches not some big Ferrari with rims and a subwoofer system and flames painted on the side. Hope that comparison isn’t too extreme 😂
By the way as somebody who’s sliced up dozens of bodies in my basement… Oh shit I didn’t mean that I meant as somebody who’s sliced up pounds and pounds of meteorright over the last decade and a half….
I’ve sliced up shit loads of meteoright over the last 2 decades, I think Rolex is slabbing the stuff up and leaving it thick enough so that they can grind it on an angle of the grain. Basically like cutting a 45° across woodgrain instead of looking at it straight on or straight from the side like you’re used to seeing it. And since he was talking about burls in the video… Meteorites are like the wooden burls of metals. They have no uniform grain… kind of goes every witch way in knots. But you can kind of get an idea for each piece and grind it so that you get the effect wanted.
Where do you get your meteorites? That is so cool.
Awesome Video 👌
Excellent!!!
Why did this fella leave Watchbox?
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Excellent video!
Thank you
Liked, subscribed, shared. Only thing I can say is...awesome!
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Amazing video
sorry, but i really need to know ... why can't dials just be thicker? ok i understand when you're trying to make it really thinly transparent, or when you're repurposing a case designed for a thin metal dial, but it sounds like manufacturers are unnecessarily obsessed with thin dials. also, we have porcelain-coated metal, but i'm not aware of dials made of straight ceramic. but it seems like an ok material for the job. comments?
Nice, new knowledge!
Good!!! 👍 👍 👍
Thanks Mike, intersting.
My favourite dial, my great granddads English smiths deluxe gold from the 50’s
Talking about the dials and not mentioning Grand Seiko is a straight heresy!!
FANTASTIC
amazing vid
very nice infos.
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Incredible video. Very informative without being a list video. Subbed!
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Hi. I need help build my first custom made watch. can i use 32mm dial to in 32.6mm dial size case. The dial size is 32mm and case require 32.6 - 33.9. if anyone have any ideas please let me know. Thank you
This is the dad figure I never had 😂
Hanlin Xu That made me laugh, thank you?
Wow I am knocked over by your explanation of dials you are truly an artigiano,,forza ferrari e forza itala🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹👌👌👌👌👌👍👍👍👍🏎🏎🏎🏎🏎
What do you mean with sapphire getting cracked by being looked at?
It's hyperbole, to demonstrate it's very fragile, not to be taken literally.
This is Tom Cruise from Tropic Thunder change my mind.
This is Stanley Tucci from margin call, change my mind.
You guys are killing me, but I’m laughing all the way so please keep watching! MM
Can you hand paint a logo like Rolex on a dial.
What about sunburst or linen dials? How are those made?
What's the big deal about applied indices as a sign of some special effort -- when so many cheap dress watches use them so freely?
How i can make dial, i love watches and want to be a watch maker.
The master is talking.
Wait a minute! Are you actually telling me Meteorite dials are not made out of Meteorite!!!!???
0:30..."stamp these dials out"...he was talking about a machine to punch out the dail shape not stamping the hour mark on. Is noone review your video?
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4:53 This is just false
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He doesn't seem to fully understand meteor dials. It's not a specific cut, or anything that Rolex does differently. It's just a specific meteor that they use. The inner structure is part of the meteor properties, not the way someone cuts it.
Sounds like The voice of Ted and family Guy,
He is so sound
A shipwreck coin dial is possibly the most pretentious dial ever thought up of.
tim.herremans It’s actually stunning in person, but I’m also conflicted about altering it.