The Second Coming of Beta Content (Red Dead Redemption 2)

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ธ.ค. 2024
  • เกม

ความคิดเห็น • 230

  • @pasha_0791
    @pasha_0791 ปีที่แล้ว +850

    One theory I have is that Rockstar wanted Arthur and Co. go to New Austin through Mexico after Guarma, instead of directly going to Roanoke Ridge. However this would prove too ambitous for an already delayed game so they axed Mexico and froze New Austin in time.

    • @snxffys6436
      @snxffys6436 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      which begs the question where the hell did they even come from if john states he was never in new austin to bonnie in the first game? that means they weren’t originally down there so why not flee to new austin first

    • @SomeClassyToast
      @SomeClassyToast ปีที่แล้ว +55

      They would not go to New Austin, Arthur could travel to NA himself however it's just a free roam area, theres some 1899 stuff like 1899 armadillo being overrun with scarlet fever but everything was nearly the same as John

    • @pasha_0791
      @pasha_0791 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@snxffys6436 They came from somewhere called North Elizabeth iirc, north of Ambarino. The gang's plan was to escape to New Austin after the Blackwater Heist.

    • @themadtitan7603
      @themadtitan7603 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @pasha_0791 They were in the Northern Grizzlies before Blackwater. Arthur writes about how they were traveling the area shortly prior to Dutch learning about the ferry job. And it was where they ran into and recruited Charles, Lenny, Jenny, and Micah.

    • @pasha_0791
      @pasha_0791 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@themadtitan7603 Yeah not North Elizabeth, my bad.

  • @griffman3803
    @griffman3803 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    The barn in McFarlands Ranch not being present in 1907 should also be a clue for NA being rushed. It theoretically should be there because by the time of RDR1 (which takes only four years later in 1911) looks like its been there for much longer then four years.

    • @BonnieFan69
      @BonnieFan69  ปีที่แล้ว +76

      and bonnie mentions drew built the barn when she was "just a little girl". considering bonnie is in her mid twenties by rdr, yeah the dates dont add up

    • @khaledrehan822
      @khaledrehan822 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I remeber this guy who has his own head canon. Imagine that the guy looking after the place burnt it down or something on accident and rebuilt it before the family came back.

    • @oui2611
      @oui2611 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      McFartland? you mean McFarlane?

    • @oui2611
      @oui2611 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@BonnieFan69 I think what happened was the map got leaked, people complained there was no new austin and so they added it late in 2017. They didnt have time to finish the mine, to make the barn or to fully port mexico

  • @watermelon5159
    @watermelon5159 ปีที่แล้ว +385

    The Blackwater Robbery was never, at any point, intended to be shown. The story relies on it NOT being shown, because otherwise the true nature of Dutch would be obvious to everyone. There's no way to recover the trust of players who actually see Dutch murder an innocent mother, which is exactly why we follow the footsteps of Arthur and only ever "hear" about it. Chapter 1, on the other hand, was going to be much longer originally, but it was always set in the Grizzlies. We know this for definitive fact because of interviews post-release.
    To add, the Grizzlies actually weren't that much bigger. Most of what was there before still remains, for both West and East. What was actually lost to the map changes was Cumberland Forest, and the top side of Roanoke, which nearly all of both was cut. Which is honestly unfortunate, because keeping the Grizzlies East on the northern side of the map would've helped with the illusion of 5 States.

    • @musicalhistory4392
      @musicalhistory4392 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      The Grizzlies were planned to be a much larger area with a habitable town, that's why Tempest Rim is inaccessible in the final game despite being on the map.

    • @watermelon5159
      @watermelon5159 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@musicalhistory4392 Not really. Grizzlies West was significantly smaller while Grizzlies East seems to have only lost some of its edges, but for the most part most of it seems to exist still. Where are you getting the town info though?

    • @simonrockstream
      @simonrockstream ปีที่แล้ว +27

      No town was planned. It was Colters original location that was placed at Tempest Rim. Tempest Rim would be the tutorial/chapter 1 area, Adlers ranch was also moved around and actually still has old paths leading towards the Tempest Rim mountains. You can find pathways leading all around the Tempest mountains, probably leading to hunting areas with Charles, to the train, Adlers ranch etc etc. Before they were all moved to different locations. No the pathways lead nowhere. The whole Tempest mountain seems like it was moved to a different location. A lot of things seem to be moved around in the Grizlies to optimise the flow of chapter 1, it's why the Grizlies are so restricted. They butchered and moved around the locations so much that they had to restrict most of it in free roam. Lack of time as usual is the reason its left so baren and unused.@@musicalhistory4392

    • @ElPatron42069
      @ElPatron42069 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What interview??

    • @pshpsh5247
      @pshpsh5247 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Except yes it was as Roger Clark has stated that the whole thing was performance captured and recorded. It was apart of the cut prologue.

  • @FouN_Its_Me
    @FouN_Its_Me ปีที่แล้ว +110

    Man I wish they didn't cut the Grizzlies because I love the snow regions in this game

    • @TheBestinTheWorld_
      @TheBestinTheWorld_ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The snow part of the grizzlies was expanded, grizzlies east was cut down and moved south

  • @themadtitan7603
    @themadtitan7603 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    -They were in fact several versions of Guarma in development. There were multiple map concepts found; ones ranging from a small island to the one we got which is around the size of 2 New Austins. And there was supposed to be a little island off the coast of Guarma too which explains the one you pointed to.
    -There MIGHT have been a scrapped prologue originally, but I don't think it would've exceeded drafting stages. The 2016 leaked map even shows that Colter was always set as the intro area. And there hasn't been any strings or evidence in the files of a Blackwater opening. I think it's more likely that the Grizzlies chapter itself was longer. We know there was originally some more to it like Arthur's family, Isaac freezing to death and Eliza running away in grief.
    -I won't say RDR2's New Austin being built off RDR1's is entirely false. Sure, it wasn't just lifted from the original and upscaled, but a lot of textures and an inaccessible interiors were reused from the first game according to dataminers. Probably because they added it in last minute, like you said. Same with Mexico.
    Amazing video, man. I loved seeing your improve and refine the editing and information from the first part. And your commentary is very enjoyable imo.

    • @SomeClassyToast
      @SomeClassyToast ปีที่แล้ว +7

      textures were not reused at all, they were recreated however the areas are unfinished like the Armadillo bank interior and the lower half of Gaptooth Breach

    • @themadtitan7603
      @themadtitan7603 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @SomeClassyToast I did read a few times about there being resued assets in towns. But the source of information could've been wrong, and I don't recall exactly where, so I won't argue otherwise. I'll just take your word for it because you deem clearly knowledgeable about this arena. I've seen your posts about New Austin on the rdr subreddit.

    • @XElectrixcherryX
      @XElectrixcherryX ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@themadtitan7603 my guy, you are literally everywhere, I didn’t know the mad titan cared for human inventions such as games

    • @newmanboi3536
      @newmanboi3536 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Bruh you appear in every rdr2 video that I watch 😭, you always have good takes on rdr2 btw

    • @matthewlacey4198
      @matthewlacey4198 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jesus they were gonna freeze Arthur's son to death right at the start? Good god

  • @FeedTheSpeed
    @FeedTheSpeed 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    It's crazy that rockstar made guarma almost as big as the entire normal playable map only to give us just 1 tiny spot. Plus that other little island. You can tell they had bigger plans. The sad part is it sold well, they made tons of money and yet didn't go back to add dlc. These areas could've been fleshed out, add new side quests, anything but yet nothing

  • @gdragon4829
    @gdragon4829 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    gotta respect this guy for probably making this account name when he was younger and then sticking to it as he got older

    • @BonnieFan69
      @BonnieFan69  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      nah i made it when i was 15 about 2 years ago. id remove the 69 but it's "too iconic" to remove (not my words)

    • @hiyves9880
      @hiyves9880 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Corny

  • @JohnJimMilton
    @JohnJimMilton 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    At night, you can actually see Saint Denis from guarmas shore 😂

  • @BawlsMahoney
    @BawlsMahoney ปีที่แล้ว +77

    The fact that they basically modeled the entirety of Mexico from the first game raises a major question. Did Rockstar just rip the map from the first game, put it in the improved RAGE engine, and model the rest of the map on top of it? If not, why did they feel obligated to remake Mexico, with the soundtrack from rdr1, but not make it accessible? Makes me sad that they didn't do anything with Mexico, or New Austin in general. Would've been cool to see some shit going down in Mexico during Arthur's story.

    • @anthony-4756
      @anthony-4756 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      They were going to add Mexico to the game but ran out of time at the end

    • @magoochito
      @magoochito หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@anthony-4756 Let's be real, they shifted focus to GTA online and development of GTA VI. Unfortunately, RDR2 was a testing ground and a token of appeasement for fans awaiting a sequel to RDR. Arguably the best game of all time stifled by it's creators in chase of further economical success.

  • @lepersonnage371
    @lepersonnage371 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    6:40 rdr2 needed to have more of that kind of actual subtle ambient like in rdr1, instead of the same 3-4 songs repeating

    • @themadtitan7603
      @themadtitan7603 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      100% agreed.

    • @Assassino275
      @Assassino275 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Fr, one of the things it definitely lacked

  • @DamianVriens
    @DamianVriens ปีที่แล้ว +81

    I was in Mexico RDR2 2 Days ago, And what was very cool, There were also Town sounds in the game, You could hear dogs and horse sounds when you´re in a town

    • @Assassino275
      @Assassino275 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How did your trip go?

    • @newmanboi3536
      @newmanboi3536 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yup I notice, also, there is squares of different textures to the environment of Mexico. I think those squares are where the houses and buildings are supposed to be

  • @NamelessPlayerOfficial
    @NamelessPlayerOfficial 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    It actually makes sense for Arthur to be locked out of New Austin as he says that the whole gang was pushed from the West, what supports this is Sheriff Sam Freeman has lines calling out Arthur when he sees him, clearly stating that the Van der Linde gang gained so much notoriety that all the western states got word of their escapades while they’re still relatively unknown in the east of the country.
    Still, I think including New Austin and making it only accessible for John makes it a good end-game reward for longtime fans of the game to have a little throwback, and seeing all the towns being familiar but vastly different, with Armadillo being nearly dead and Tumbleweed being full of noise and bustle.

    • @smerfdzikus2334
      @smerfdzikus2334 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’d love to see rdr3 about the gang beginnings set in New Austin and maybe another desert state.

  • @soylentlyso3219
    @soylentlyso3219 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    To this day I still think this game & story would have fared better if they hadn't had the Guarma chapter. Took so much time and resources from the main game, which resulted in really weird pacing/story decisions towards the end.

    • @sm0k3y56
      @sm0k3y56 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      The Guarma chapter felt so out of place. Would've took away nothing if Guarma was removed from the game. It'd make more sense if the gang took a boat all the way to thieves landing and had a chapter in New Austin. But Rockstar just got too ambitious for their own good.

    • @steveleopard6761
      @steveleopard6761 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@sm0k3y56I completely disagree, pulling away from the main game makes a sense of urgency to get back to the main story, putting all of the characters into a lot stress especially Dutch, making what happens in chapter 6 more believable

    • @anthony-4756
      @anthony-4756 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@sm0k3y56you don’t know what you’re talking about no offense

    • @magoochito
      @magoochito หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sm0k3y56 You should have written for the game, that plot sounds 1000 times better and they can still keep John from ever exploring Mexico.

    • @magoochito
      @magoochito หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@steveleopard6761 I disagree with you, this sense of "urgency" is because many players wanted nothing to do with the island. All I wanted to do was go back so I could enjoy free roam in a map I could invest time in. Guarma just seems like the absolute worst choice when a transition into New Austin, Tall Trees, Thieves Landing, etc would have made much more sense for the narrative. Bad from a gameplay sense, bad from a storytelling perspective. I cannot fathom being a Guarma apologist, especially when the content was neutered and the result was a lackluster on rails experience.

  • @ghst-rb3iz
    @ghst-rb3iz ปีที่แล้ว +145

    Its my favourite game of all time but the amount of cut content really makes me sad. I hope we all get the chance of seeing the full potential of this game in the future, or at least someone who worked on it tell us why so much was removed

    • @deathrager2404
      @deathrager2404 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      stupid kids ands their stupid hopes.

    • @bushandoj6487
      @bushandoj6487 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It was removed since rockstar and fans rushed production of rdr2 to get gta 6 released

    • @bushandoj6487
      @bushandoj6487 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      To add they most likely couldn’t fit it in the game and with all of this content and quality wouldn’t work on the Xbox one and PS4 only way all of this could work would be on pc and new gen

    • @Vaquero2o9
      @Vaquero2o9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@bushandoj6487gta 6 isn’t even out yet and is nowhere near finished based on the leaks

    • @bushandoj6487
      @bushandoj6487 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Vaquero2o9 i never said gta 6 is released when i use the word “released” i was using it as that’s rockstars goal to get gta 6 released

  • @syrsafox32
    @syrsafox32 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    An interesting thing in that avalanche is that there are bodies of dead horses.

    • @MrFusion
      @MrFusion ปีที่แล้ว +15

      My guess is that the opening mission was the gang being chased through the snow which served as the combat tutorial. The gang would be saved by a freak avalanche that wipes out the Pinkertons and they would then flee to Colter.

  • @carsoncrews
    @carsoncrews ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I always assumed that arthur went to mexico some time while john was inprisoned or something maybe after guarma and than they would have had to have snuck past blackwater getting back to saint denis and thats why in the trailer they're with sadie adler in blackwater riding away .. but at the time they felt that the story would be all over the place and they batched it

    • @officiallawguy3005
      @officiallawguy3005 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Avonte76I don’t think this is the same scene that the OP is talking about but there is a scene with Arthur in Blackwater tackling someone on the docks in one of the trailers videos, maybe that is what they were referring to?

  • @jacke_RS
    @jacke_RS ปีที่แล้ว +44

    if rdr2 was released 20 years ago there would be so many rumors and fake videos of arthur going to mexico

  • @Gage_The_Comrade_or_Something
    @Gage_The_Comrade_or_Something ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I just wanna mention this, but on the map you can find random out of place areas which have the text “Wanted Dead or Alive” labeled onto them; specifically under the “R” in Grizzlies East & on the East bank of the Lannahechee adjacent to Van Horn. If you compare the leaked maps from 2016-17 to the final in-game map, these spots where this text is shown roughly correspond to the old locations of Fort Wallace & Sisika, which is the reason why hovering over Ft. Wallace & Sisika themselves doesn’t show that text.
    This next bit is just hearsay I’ve heard from a guy I watch, but apparently there’s a sign underneath the map from a pre-release (2016; maybe 17) of RDR2 that indicates where Ft. Wallace & other places were at some point
    It’s actually really interesting how there are so many holdovers from the 2016-17 versions of RDR2

  • @Trackman71
    @Trackman71 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    I occasionally go to Mexico both in Online and in the Singeplayer just to explore around the areas that Iv visited so many times in the first game. My favorite area to visit in the first game was Mexico. The ambient music was amazing and overall I just liked the terrain, the buildings, and how lawless it was. Going around it in RDR2 just makes me feel empty seeing locations I know the exact areas to where they use to be. Hearing the ambient music and sometimes ambient noises (Dogs barking, and People chatting) occasionally lowkey kinda brings a tear to my eye. I have a lot of Nostalgia for the first game as I played it a lot throughout 2010-2011. It’s a shame we probably won’t be seeing a remastered Mexico in the RDR2 engine in a veeery long time or not at all.

    • @Gaminxr
      @Gaminxr ปีที่แล้ว

      how do you get there in online? do you use mods?

    • @Trackman71
      @Trackman71 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Gaminxr Wagon glitch. Haven’t done it in awhile though might be patched.

    • @PwnageSoldier
      @PwnageSoldier 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You should look out for the Mexico mod on PC, it's pretty much completely returning RDR1's Mexico; still in early access but super impressive where it's at, and the closest thing you'll get to a remaster.

    • @chancegaming487
      @chancegaming487 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Trackman71rockstar haven’t updated the game in 4 years

  • @BenDover-d9w
    @BenDover-d9w ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What grinds my gears is they add stuff like getting gator eggs that don’t even spawn but take the good stuff

  • @Waxyyy
    @Waxyyy ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I love to see you back at it 🤙🏼

  • @oui2611
    @oui2611 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    11:34 the missing textures confirm for me that new austin was really added last minute, the mine probably being one of the last things they worked on and left some of it unfinished

  • @ZoveXEdits
    @ZoveXEdits 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    0:15 I just realized this music is from PvZ 2. Love that franchise

  • @SomeClassyToast
    @SomeClassyToast ปีที่แล้ว +64

    New Austin is not stuck in 1899, It's Stuck in a bit of a mix, Cholera is for 1907 New Austin as 1899 was Scarlet fever, Sheriff freeman and the armadillo crier have unused 1907 versions of their outfits and theres a cut armadillo station clerk with both 1899 and 1907 outfits, Arthur could go to NA however the gang would not follow, arthur could go just as a free roam area

    • @themadtitan7603
      @themadtitan7603 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I agree. Stuck in between is more accurate imo. Because there's clearly 1907 elements like aged up store owners and the cholera in Armadillo instead of the Scarlet Fever, like you said, which is mentioned as the plague at the time in the main story newspapers.

  • @peterman2790
    @peterman2790 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    bros boat turned into a plane

  • @carsoncrews
    @carsoncrews ปีที่แล้ว +5

    TH-cam brought me back to you almost 1 year later

  • @kang_lee_
    @kang_lee_ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    loved both of ur dives into the cut content. would love to see u do more of this kind of content but for other games ur live commentary is hilarious!

  • @demspookz8732
    @demspookz8732 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Damn shame we didn’t get any Guarma content in Online. Would’ve been great if they added an option to sail to the island in free roam or at the very least have some missions take place there

  • @CopiousDoinksLLC
    @CopiousDoinksLLC ปีที่แล้ว +11

    As much as I love this video, it just reminds me how badly Rockstar failed by releasing RDR2 in the state it was in. There's so much obviously unfinished content. That's what happens when you have studio executives breathing down your neck, though.

  • @egyuddaniel3214
    @egyuddaniel3214 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Underrated chanel good editing

  • @plexyglass429
    @plexyglass429 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It actuallyakes zero sense for john to be in new austin (as it's his first time there in rdr1) but makes sense for arthur. Picture arthur on one of his "adventures" as ms grimshaw calls it, he goes to new austin by himself by sneaking through yhe great plains (as bringing the whole gang would be yoo obvious) and faffs around in new austin himself. In the epilogue john can in theory go there but its not cannon at all

    • @kindertak5396
      @kindertak5396 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This means many of the side missions (like the dinosaur bones one) are not canon

  • @nolanharris7282
    @nolanharris7282 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i heard the mexico soundtrack while fishing in the san luis river and it made me so happy

  • @hakijin
    @hakijin หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    An alternate prologue could have been the gang making its way through the west before the ferry job in blackwater up to the point it happened. From what I understood from arthurs journals is that he was off with hosea on a property scam when dutch, micah and some other were doing the ferry heist. So it would still leave what happened a mystery but we could have gotten some free roam in new austin and mexico as arthur before they had to flee.

  • @stevengoc4884
    @stevengoc4884 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mad funny just watched Exploring Unused Areas in Red Dead Redemption 2 and u just so happend to upload

  • @leandroisaac2000
    @leandroisaac2000 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    7:14 i was actually exploring the next to san luis river in gaptooth ridge and it started playing the same rdr1 mexico background ost. It hit me with so much nostalgia, Idk what i did to start playing it. I think it was when i started looking towards mexico and using binoculars to see it better, i'm on ps4 btw.

  • @LightOfReason7
    @LightOfReason7 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video and commentary, I wish you would make more about RDR2 but thanks for this one

  • @DraftyDaftyHubertOHare
    @DraftyDaftyHubertOHare ปีที่แล้ว +2

    PERFECT starting music.

  • @goofygoober2382
    @goofygoober2382 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    this video is depressing. the point of it not the actual video. the video is excellent

  • @alexanderdahlin1690
    @alexanderdahlin1690 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think it makes sense, that New Austin and Mexico were added late, and not meant to be in the game originally. Based on the original map leak but also story-wise since they never visit these places in the story and it would kinda break with the first game. I don't think they would add this because of players' outcry. Makes more sense to me to add this due to Red Dead Online and let players revisit their favorite places. This would be why it is stuck in time since online takes place in 1898 (?). Then they just decided to let players visit there in the epilogue as well since they already had the content. They probably wanted to let us do more but due to time, we got this empty version, which just added more questions. This would explain why there is audio for Arthur since they wanted this area to be available but locked it off due to the place being stuck in time and there was no point in making 2 versions of the place since no story takes place there. New Austin overall gives off this unfinished vibe and I kinda wish they would just have not bothered.
    I wonder if Mexico ever was meant to be explored or if the idea was to have the Mexican army stop you, kind of like in other rockstar titles where they block you off with police if you try and access certain areas too early. On the other hand, if I'm not misremembering there were fast travel references to cities in Mexico so perhaps this went through multiple iterations. Maybe the last idea was to just have it blocked off by the Mexican army but not even that did they have time for. Having a Mexico DLC for online maybe? But then they removed most of the references to Mexico which could mean that they killed off these plans. So many questions. Would love it if a dev just gave it to us so we could stop wondering.
    I don't know. Just ramblings. I think they should have spent more time in these areas or just cut them out. Mexico for online would have been cool. Overall, the whole New Austin area makes me depressed and it feels disrespectful to the first title.

    • @LevisH21
      @LevisH21 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      New Austin shouldn't have been in the game.
      it only serves as nostalgia for the players that have played the first game but it also makes no sense whatsoever because John mentions he has never been to New Austin before to Bonnie.
      anyways.
      what would have been more logical to do is to have an actual living town in Ambarino, in the snow.
      and I already have a plan. maybe Colter in the epilogue should have been repopulated with NPCs and basically have a saloon, gunsmith, general store, etc.
      once you reach the epilogue and finish the story with John, the game feels so damn empty of life and nothing interesting to do. especially in New Austin and Ambarino.
      even the Indian Wapiti Reservation is gone. Ambarino is basically empty. only wildlife.
      so yeah. Ambarino should have been much better developed with at least a living town.
      and don't have New Austin in the game. it was completely unnecessary and probably only in the game because Rockstar wanted to use it for RDR Online but also decided to include it in the singleplayer mode.

    • @chancegaming487
      @chancegaming487 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LevisH21free roaming is not canon

  • @darlingxluxii7977
    @darlingxluxii7977 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is awesome!! ❤❤❤ enjoyed your first video 😊❤

  • @vatoalvarez8253
    @vatoalvarez8253 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel so sad they cut so much from México, but that makes the moment when you cross the border in Rdr1 so much special

  • @joachim4145
    @joachim4145 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    at 3:40, after the cut, You can see the "go to location" icon typa cloud on the mini map flash. This further proves that Guarma was meant to be muuch bigger, such a shame.
    put the video in 0.25x speed and pause and unpause quickly and you'll see it

    • @BonnieFan69
      @BonnieFan69  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      holy shit i didnt even notice that. good eye

    • @joachim4145
      @joachim4145 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@BonnieFan69 haha thanks love your videos

  • @the-golden-duck
    @the-golden-duck ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Damn this is really good

    • @darlingxluxii7977
      @darlingxluxii7977 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah I never knew more cut stuff. Love this video!! ❤❤

  • @newmanboi3536
    @newmanboi3536 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Arthur was supposed to go to new Austin to show how the west was tamed. Hear me out, call me crazy, but think about it, the game starts saying how the west was mostly tamed. In magicians for sport, in high honor, Arthur says that the west ain't how he remembers, so, maybe, it makes sense to show us how everything was changing or has changed

  • @OscarThompson-gx1do
    @OscarThompson-gx1do ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hit us with the PvZ Wild West theme. Very nice
    🤙🤙🤙

  • @ricardorivas5955
    @ricardorivas5955 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    they spend to much time getting the horse poop and horse testicles right

  • @leodavis4242
    @leodavis4242 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    First off, I loved this video and it's predecessor
    Secondly, I definitely agree that there's basically fuck all to do in New Austin. I like going there because it fits that stereotypical 'wild west' theme, but I rarely go there because of the fact it feels like there isn't much to do there, except camp, stay in the hotel in tumbleweed, or take pictures/screenshots
    Lastly, regarding New Austin being locked to Arthur, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that just because the south half of West Elizabeth was locked? Like... you'd have to go through West Elizabeth to get to New Austin, so if West Elizabeth is locked, there's not much point (if any) making New Austin open to Arthur?

  • @mernyr
    @mernyr ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Be cool if rockstar would restore a lot of the beta content as story dlc… then again given the rdr remaster just being a resell, I doubt it would ever happen.

    • @MrTeton
      @MrTeton ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Too bad Rockstar won't do story DLCs anymore 😩

  • @Ausvwidabix2blorange
    @Ausvwidabix2blorange ปีที่แล้ว +17

    It’s quite easy to get to guarma from new austin, going through Mexico without mods. I would just look it up if I were you, but it’s a lot easier and faster than the Lemoyne method.

    • @vincentoconnor5640
      @vincentoconnor5640 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I just cross the top of the waterfall and make John pass out near a specific ledge

    • @Ausvwidabix2blorange
      @Ausvwidabix2blorange ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@vincentoconnor5640 yeah, that’s what I do, then you just gotta jump up on a certain ledge and walk for like 5 mins until you get to guarma

    • @vincentoconnor5640
      @vincentoconnor5640 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Ausvwidabix2blorange Yeah. I've also crossed by doing the bridge glitch but that's so imprecise it's not even worth it.

    • @Ausvwidabix2blorange
      @Ausvwidabix2blorange ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@vincentoconnor5640 it’s a lot easier than the glitch he was doing in the vid though

  • @RSAgility
    @RSAgility ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Rockstar's ambitious Projects...
    Guarma?
    Look at the size!!!!
    What were they thinking!??
    They could've focused on the main map more than Guarma and scrapped guarma, or saved it for like GTA6 or something...
    Imagine how big the main map could've been...
    Northern native lands and southern mexico lands, we could've had all that had they not spent time doing the guarma stuff.
    Which they then abandoned and only use for one short chapter...
    I say it was a terrible use of developer time and effort.
    But devs probably learned a lot and are now making GTA6 which is all tropical.
    Can't wait.

    • @ottifant64
      @ottifant64 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Same with the Grizzlies West redesign and northern Roanoke Ridge.

    • @weplo1597
      @weplo1597 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They shouldn't have added new austin since it was empty. They did cut places from west elizabeth though like manzanita post train station you can see it on 1.00 map, And i wish they did focus on John Marston's epilogue look and story. They should've gone with 2016 map with new hanover having yellow grass since it is actually more accurate since it takes place in wyoming

  • @OwenC08
    @OwenC08 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You need more subscribers, you’re great.

  • @Bobella3
    @Bobella3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey dude keep up the great work love the red dead videos

  • @therdrfanboi1899
    @therdrfanboi1899 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    plants vs zombies 2 wild west music?
    oh yeah this gonna be fire

  • @daanabbring5409
    @daanabbring5409 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The fact that this game that turns out was pretty rushed is still the single most impressive game there is to date just says something about Rockstar's quality. I hope GTA VI delivers, because they probably rushed RDR2 to get most of its devs back to work on GTA

    • @ThatOnePlatypusGuy
      @ThatOnePlatypusGuy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      RDR2 is not a rushed game. It only appears rushed because this is literally out of bounds. The amount of things you can experience from finding a wholly mammoth skeleton to a Vampire feasting in Saint Denis is crazy.

    • @ThatOnePlatypusGuy
      @ThatOnePlatypusGuy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Some things aren't made, such as Mexico. But that's because they put the gamers first. If it put in Mexico, the game would have came out in 2020.

  • @AidoSML
    @AidoSML 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rockstar did try with new austin a lot in rdr online tho. A lot of things happen in New Austin or you can do in online

  • @delmoofy
    @delmoofy ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The pvz2 wild West soundtrack is amazing

  • @NoomEnihsDrop
    @NoomEnihsDrop 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    in RDR2 Javier seemed completely certain that he could NEVER return to Mexico.
    yet in RDR1 you would think he spent his whole entire life there.
    I feel like a mission in New Austin with a couple run ins with the Del Lobos and Javier would've really helped establish that part of the future.

  • @Manwithaplanderlinde
    @Manwithaplanderlinde 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yall ever get scared of one cougar/panther but you can still take on a pack of wolves or a grizzly. They freak me out

  • @jesterdewit478
    @jesterdewit478 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s creepy even in Mexico it has the soundtrack…..

  • @deltadxd
    @deltadxd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Actually they could add a prologue chapter as DLC and have you play as John and interact with Arthur since John was there during it

  • @Kaury3621
    @Kaury3621 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i wish the beta content someone made it into the final game

  • @outlaw4liife
    @outlaw4liife 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hope you make another version i found your videos so damn fun for some reason it gives weird feeling of ambiguity

  • @teorhus
    @teorhus ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Peak commentary

  • @jewelsvevo8153
    @jewelsvevo8153 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It would've been cool if R* made the RDR1 port an expansion to RDR2 instead where similarly to the Epilogue there's a time skip between the end of Epilogue 2 and when RDR1 starts and you continue on and play RDR1's story
    Would've given R* a chance to fully finish New Austin and Mexico

  • @User57655
    @User57655 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why is Guarma loaded onto the same 'map' as the rest of the game? You only ever access it via a cutscene which could have disguised loading of a new map, so there must be some technical reason why they load Guarma at the same time, any ideas what that would be?

    • @BonnieFan69
      @BonnieFan69  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      they did the same thing with north yankton in gta v. i wont pretend to know anything about development with the rage engine but honestly they probably just figure its easier than creating and loading an entire new map. also if red dead 2's starting load times are anything to go by, id imagine it would take a lot longer to load between guarma and the main map if they had done them seperate

  • @zaco21_
    @zaco21_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wish rockstar had the time to add all these cut features into the game, would’ve made it so much better

  • @plexyglass429
    @plexyglass429 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The chest model is straight from rdr1

  • @Henni_Hill
    @Henni_Hill 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Plants vs Zombies 2 music was so random

  • @ZacrsgameYT
    @ZacrsgameYT หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They need to make a rdr2 director's cut for new gen consoles.

  • @justsomeguy708
    @justsomeguy708 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:32 i i be vibing

  • @Kit_cohen
    @Kit_cohen หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When your showing off the grizzlies.. what theme was that?

    • @BonnieFan69
      @BonnieFan69  หลายเดือนก่อน

      the intro to the segment is the stranger mission passed theme from rdr1, and the music during it is from enter, pursued by a memory when you're being chased by the wolves.

  • @AnarchicKhajiit
    @AnarchicKhajiit ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It's worth mentioning that in Red Dead Redemption 1 John also mentions he's never been so far out west as New Austin, which is more proof that it was originally not intended to be in the game.

    • @BonnieFan69
      @BonnieFan69  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i was originally gonna use that as a point, but i couldnt find when he actually says it. if i remember he said it to bonnie during one of the early missions but im not completely sure

  • @Stupter1
    @Stupter1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    you deserver waaaaaaaaaaaaaaY more views

  • @rishitshah4338
    @rishitshah4338 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    5:17 Fucking hell is this
    2024 games have their entire map as big as this while Rockstar's there sitting, yeah let's just get this shit out the storyline, nothing big at all

  • @Jorja_47
    @Jorja_47 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    13:38 i noticed that the circle was gone like rockstar 🤣

  • @benhoughton4937
    @benhoughton4937 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had the Mexico theme play while I was in New Austin a little after the legendary catfish mission. Was it a glitch?

    • @BonnieFan69
      @BonnieFan69  ปีที่แล้ว

      it can also play when you ride along the bank of the san luis river im pretty sure, probably an overlapping of the zones or whatever

  • @DJspidey100
    @DJspidey100 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I don't mind that Arthur isn't able to go to New Austin, narratively there really isn't a reason to despite much of the gang's desire to flee west. I feel like that want is sort of a commentary in and of itself, how outlaws were able to better thrive westward whilst Dutch keeps everyone landlocked in the wrong areas.
    The problem here is where cynicism drips through. New Austin in RDR2 is left relatively unfinished in spite of some available side-content for John, sure, but its real purpose? To be repurposed and milked for content in Red Dead Online, which also takes place in 1899. There's many more nods to the future of RDR1 nestled there than even in the story. Which makes Rockstar essentially abandoning it all the more ironic.

    • @shady___1999
      @shady___1999 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      RDO takes place in 1895

    • @TheSultan1470
      @TheSultan1470 ปีที่แล้ว

      No

    • @PwnageSoldier
      @PwnageSoldier 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The issue though with this is NA is still stuck in it's bugged halfway state with 1899 stuff and 1907 stuff meshed together; NA is just clearly unfinished.

  • @jaymac7203
    @jaymac7203 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Maybe Mexico was added for the upcoming remake?

  • @djfmae4089
    @djfmae4089 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    how did people get access to the PS4 versions game files

  • @CaptPreston
    @CaptPreston ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I can't believe they abandoned RDR2 because they couldn't manage to sell enough Shark Cards, I mean, gold bars or whatever RDO had. They have all of New Austin and Mexico, hell even Guarma, to play with as DLC and RDO missions. Add an official Undead mode too, that footage you had looked pretty fun. They could totally revive RDO by doing that. Single player DLC's aren't dead either.

  • @Primonition
    @Primonition ปีที่แล้ว +1

    subbed just from the fact that ma man said to not sub if you expect the channel to only post rdr2 vids.

  • @andybarahona5571
    @andybarahona5571 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What´s the name of the horse you´re using in Mexico? I´ve never seen it before

    • @Gage_The_Comrade_or_Something
      @Gage_The_Comrade_or_Something ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m pretty sure that’s an uncommon variant of the Kentucky Saddler

    • @Jreaq
      @Jreaq 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Gage_The_Comrade_or_Something It’s the thoroughbred

    • @Gage_The_Comrade_or_Something
      @Gage_The_Comrade_or_Something 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JreaqNo that’s clearly a Buttermilk Buckskin Kentucky Saddler, I’ve seen hundreds of thoroughbreds & none of them have had a coat remotely similar

    • @Jreaq
      @Jreaq 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Gage_The_Comrade_or_Something I forgot to correct myself. Since BonnieFan himself said that it was a Saddler in another comment reply

  • @DeviousMan66
    @DeviousMan66 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just got pvz2 flashbacks

  • @Evil_Kanye
    @Evil_Kanye ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What mod is in the background when you were talking about new austin

    • @BonnieFan69
      @BonnieFan69  ปีที่แล้ว

      its part of rampage trainer in the minigames section, undead nightmare 2

    • @Evil_Kanye
      @Evil_Kanye ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BonnieFan69 ok nice 😎

  • @Nilon241
    @Nilon241 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice Arthur outfit for the Mexico part, whats the green shirt?

    • @BonnieFan69
      @BonnieFan69  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      its apart of whyems dlc

  • @zorpalod2346
    @zorpalod2346 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    yay

  • @MrBoomxl
    @MrBoomxl ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And in Red Dead Online they barely did anything with New Austin either. As someone who played RDR1 i love going to New Austin, but there's not much to do in Online either.

  • @RSAgility
    @RSAgility ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That also doesn't make sense to add lines of code to something players will never see or do.
    "I just rode into mexico in the game and the theme played"
    "Uhh what tf?"
    These areas should be devoid of any development to make the actual play areas the player will be using, run smoother.
    But I'm sure that has to be an Easter Egg for those who manage it, something simple to add by a dev on their spare time

  • @username_1985
    @username_1985 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    LENNNYYYYY!!!

  • @creightonthewanderer6373
    @creightonthewanderer6373 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If I had a nickel for every time Rockstar made you go to a shitty tropical island off the coast of the main map I’d have 2 nickels. Which isn’t a lot but seems lazy it happened twice.

  • @OniOai
    @OniOai ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Idea during rdr2 4 More chapters added + chapter 4 and 5 Lengthened Gaurma has more things
    The New Chapter 1: Mexico Is playable from Javier's Perspective while he is escaping (So they can use the mexico part) like gta 5 then you meet Dutch he helps you Then you play as somebody like Dutch or Hosea for a bit then chapter two starts: Dutch In the blackwater massacre and the events them moving into the grizzlies then chapter 3 Replaces chapter 1 you now play as Arthur and its pretty similar just chapter 4 Is longer and chapter 5 + More gaurma things

    • @cgijokerman5787
      @cgijokerman5787 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's a horrible idea and would screw with pacing so badly. Playing as so many characters. Also the game NOT showing Blackwater Massacre is IMPORTANT to the story and theme. Just like NOT showing John getting his scar. You meet the gang after the tipping point. You meet John after the tipping point.

  • @madmacaw6177
    @madmacaw6177 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    yay more

  • @vapecatt
    @vapecatt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If rockstar wanted to do a RDR2 remake, I'd be all for it. They could change up so of the story beats, add cut content even make the story change a bit.

  • @Femboy2012
    @Femboy2012 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They just should’ve dumped the honor system and make the game good

  • @m3rc3r97
    @m3rc3r97 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what horse was used while in mexico? looks cool

    • @BonnieFan69
      @BonnieFan69  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the buttermilk buckskin kentucky saddler

    • @m3rc3r97
      @m3rc3r97 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BonnieFan69 thanks i appreciate it

  • @Jorja_47
    @Jorja_47 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    no wonder the game takes so much storage 😂😂😂

  • @PwnageSoldier
    @PwnageSoldier 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Honestly, I wish NA and Mexico were completely cut from RDR2; they don't belong in the game as explorable territories and feel unfinished due to R* being unable to finish the provinces in time. It would've been honestly better off (or if R* gave the game more development time and didn't reveal it so early, then maybe we could've had a complete NA and Mexico)

  • @AlqhemyA
    @AlqhemyA ปีที่แล้ว +10

    No matter your race, religion, gender, or political beliefs, I think everyone can agree that RDR1 ambience is leagues above RDR2 ambience.

    • @LEONSKENNEDY91
      @LEONSKENNEDY91 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      damn really???
      I never played rdr1

    • @Trackman71
      @Trackman71 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I will die on this hill as well. The ambient soundtracks were waaaay better then RDR2. It really gave the vibe of the dying wild west. Going to different parts of the map actually felt really different. I know they tried this in RDR2 but it was way more impactful in RDR1.

  • @Carminin_Cider
    @Carminin_Cider ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If they would focus less on Gta online and more on Rdr2 this game would be the biggest masterpiece for the next 10 years

  • @deathbyslipknot
    @deathbyslipknot 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your animosity about New Austin is weird. While it is underutilized, the game is already stuffed to the brim with content and is actually a bit too long as it is imo. The epilogue is really pushing it. I was overjoyed when I discovered the Red Dead 1 map was in the game and I think it serves as just icing on the overall experience. The true tragedy of the unused content is Guarma, not New Austin.