While tri color battles felt stacked against us (scissors), this is called a TESTfire for a reason. I honestly had a lot of fun with the splatfest and look forward towards the next.
As a Scissors player, I felt the same at first, til I realized most weapon sets I was playing with had some way to take out enemies in the center while practically still in spawn. at that point the game was camp center from range and ink all around me, and do a push near the end, after getting one team wiped. Kinda boring, but it took me from 0/3 in tri color matches to about 10/4 by the end of the splatfest. I do like it, if only to see how the meta will change over time, and to see how it plays out in other maps.
yeah. i was playing with my friends and we all got a ton of kills and 1000p+ constantly and we did a pretty good job of defending the signal, but we still only won like half the matches anyways. It was a good time but I hope the tricolor battles are a little more balanced next time around. and as you said, it was just testing for now :)
Important note, this one actually _wasn't_ called a Testfire, it was called a World Premier, which is notable as Splatoon 2 actually had *_BOTH_* a Testfire and a Global Premier, where the Testfire was a demo earlier in development to help them with balancing and server optimization for normal Turf war, and the Global Premier came close to when Splatoon 2 was ready to drop to build and gauge hype and _maybe_ as a distant 3rd priority, iron out any kinks in the Splatfest format going into it's release. This time around, based on the naming scheme and timing, it seems like their focus was on the latter
As a team paper member I can confirm, most of us went into the splatfest knowing we probably won't win. We didn't stand a chance against the Shiver and Big Man fans. Also Frye's forehead is the best Splatoon player, change my mind
When choosing what t-shirt to pick, my mind had a split second decision of "do I want to win or do I choose who I like the most"??? Picked up paper and went running towards Frye to show her my new splatfest gear.
I think tricolor is fine but I think it needs its own designed maps. It is really missing that special feeling that the shifty stations had, plus playing defendse on such a small space really sucked.
I feel like what they should do is that every 1-2 hours in the halftime they re-evaluate who is actually on top, like that not just one team has to defend throughout the whole halftime. It would add to the variety and fun for the teams while not being as much as a huge disadvantage to the team that ends up being first at the halftime. It could also add to the chaos and more balance out the rush of who gets first.
The Splatfest was overall pretty fun, but damn, I really shouldn't have picked scissors. Those tricolor matches were hell on earth for the defending teams.
Yeah you guys on scissors got the job of trying to figure out the defending role for the first time. I on the other hand was just like. I ride in on a shark and explode.
I was on team scissors, the ultra signals felt too strong to me tbh, once an enemy team gets one they've essentially locked down their own area and trying to take it is pointless. If the same team gets both, they even lock you out of the center area that's supposed to be yours. It really pressures you to stay in the middle and probably not ink enough turf to win Personally I think they should only appear temporarily instead of staying forever until someone gets them. It's basically like asking the defending team to keep a splat zone for the entirety of a game or you lose
was a team paper myself, and though i can mostly agree with the sentiment, it is still a turf war. If the signals are taken, defenders probably need to change strats to offense, trying to push back one or both teams. The signals are only super sprinklers, they can be outpaced, it is just a matter of not leaving them be to reclaim areas. I think another part of the problem was that attackers almost always had high ground, with the only real exception being direct pushes on the signal itself when every moving thing was in the down position. Maybe another map will work better, the question is simply how they will accommodate the third team.
And then even if you keep it... you STILL lose, because you can't do the turf covering needed to keep points. All my matches it never really felt like a 4v2v2(optional), because at all times there was immense pressure from both teams and so much going on it honestly never felt like they only had 2 people at a time. If you went to keep their ink at bay they'd end up in the middle somehow. If you tried to defend their spawns would surge outwards with ink like a plague and eventually overwhelm you. Being the leading team in this mode seems to just be a death sentence from this showcase and I don't really like that. Hopefully it was just a poor map, or hopefully the beacons get a rework because as a new player myself it'll be a big downer seeing such a hyped up event like a splatfest completely up to whether or not you're WINNING (with that being a detriment) by the time tricolor battles come in.
As someone on scissors: Tri-color was fun! However, it was... INCREDIBLY difficult. If you don't defend the ultra signal, you're at a permanent disadvantage. If you defend the ultra signal, the enemy teams get to have free reign over their own side and you can't do much about it. The only time I was winning tricolor games was when I could trust my team to 3v2v2 the enemy team and cover territory that they refused to grab, considering they were camping the middle. It felt like there were no right choices in how to play that mode. But most of the time it was nearly impossible to defend that thing anyways--- I rarely won tricolor matches, despite them being fun as hell. I feel like they definitely need to balance it more, since it just kinda makes the game feel like "Get in second place before tri-color, or die." Especially because the middle team gets flanked on both sides, and *any* victory counts as a W for both attackers, therefore leaving no incentive for the opposing teams to attack eachother to win. But also it WAS fun and I think the splatfest was fucking banger even though I lost! I definitely hope they can figure out the balance of the splatfest a bit more, but overall, t'was good experience as long as you ignore the people getting toxic online over not winning on their funny squid game.
These were my thoughts exactly considering... everything. You gotta admit there was toxicity between both scissors and rock though. It wasn't really just a scissors thing.
I saw a comment once on another video suggesting the defending and attacking teams should change each match so, instead of just Scissors defending each battle, Paper or Rock could be given the defense position (especially considering how Scissors was only winning by a 1% margin during half-time).
@@QueenLethargy updating defending team between each match would be a nice change, since the point is to have more of a back-and-forth rather than the clean sweeps some previous generation splatfests have been.
5:03 I was on Team Paper and this was basically my mentality throughout the whole thing, lol. I had a freaking blast during the Splatfest, win or lose, but I was genuinely surprised we weren't in the bottom at the end. I didn't go into this expecting to win much, but it seems like we managed to hold our own! :)
I was on team Scissors for Big Man, and didn't realize just how cruel other members were, I had a good team going, and experienced a large amount of sadness when we lost, because I thought I failed my king, Big Man.
scissors was still the correct team :) i feel like the splatfest was a terrible way for people to try out the new weapons for the first time, at least for the tri-stringer it kind of did a terrible job at inking turf and when the entire splatfest is just turf war.... not the best weapon to pick!
I was really hoping we could normal queue to test them. And there was no way of knowing if wed have a ditto match. I am super excited to see how stringer evolves in ranked specifically. The like delayed burst seems like it'll get dirty in select modes.
I actually got a lot out of the stringer with using it to zone and support without a full charge, got one really good match in gorge (the new splatlands map, I'm horrible with names) where I basically pressured people at the end of the match from advancing from their base from the center tower Sure I was almost always near the bottom of the points but I usually got a (relatively) respectable 500-700 on bad matches, and close to 800-900 on good ones, considering I was mainly focusing on support I'm happy with the results
From what I can tell, Aerospray actually was buffed in 3. There were several engagements where I stayed what I thought was safely out of range of the Aero but its buffed range (and maybe rng, I'm not sure) caught me by surprise. And Splatanas and Stringers are probably going to be _wild_ once competitive players get some more time to lab them out--neither seems particularly good for Turf.
@@leonidasrose2060 as someone who picked up the areospray for the first time during the test fire, I feel like I got an unholy amount of kills with the main weapon, even if it’s unreliable you can still be aggressive to the point of getting 8 kills with it by getting up in their face or getting assists (even though over half of the kills were by the special) It’s hilarious to me personally how someone like me (a person who used to flank with inkbrush) could play the aerospray with an aggressive playstyle comfortably
@@irritableblue1940 That's like my exact experience too, it's almost reminds me of Pyro in tf2 with the flank style encouraged by the brushes letting the aerospray shine if your positioning is on point... But then again who needs positioning when you can use the visor and just reefslide to victory.
I liked playing curling bomb launcher.. I mean aerospray in 2 and it just doesn't feel the same without the annoying special. The Jr both paints and kills better except it had a worse kit.
i rocked the splatana in the test fire and it was the first time ive ever been actually really good playing splatoon online and i got most turf inked over weapons that were designed to ink turf pretty often
Big Man going through EXACTLY what happened to Marina is hilarious! Pick the side you like not the idol I thought people would have learned after Marina lost all the first few splatfest
I have to say, adding a third choice for splatfests bring a new layer of strategy without adding anything unnecessary. There’s gonna be a lot of “enemy of my enemy” alliances from here on out
"I wanted to be the storm that is approaching but I felt more like a drizzle that's... standing by the road... looking... anxious" - vergil sparda (probably)
I feel the pain at 4:35, I completely relate to this, I just couldn't wrap my mind around the fact that Team Paper (I was Team Rock) absolutely *refused* to work with me when taking down Team Scissors, it felt like I was up against 6 players at once. Good thing it was a Test Fire, that way Nintendo can hopefully tweak these things
I thought it was a bit unfair for me and the other scissors, but since I spent the 12 hours in the training area only I only realized in the next few days how terrible team scissors acted. To those on the other teams affected by this, on behalf of team scissors, sorry. Also the aerospray is NOT TRASH I usually get ~850p with it
I get 1300p with it so it's not bad you're right, also why was team scissors acting like that? Because we had a one point lead? I see why rock is being toxic idiots now, but that's still no excuse for them. Telling people to kill themselves over a fricking game is crazy.
Really, yes. I missed the demo due to a misunderstanding on my part and afterwards finding out my team were being jerks about losing, only made losing feel worse (although I only voted) and finally, aerospray is not trash, it just seems some people don't know how to play it.
I was on Scissors and I found it kinda wild to learn we lost so hard. Personally I only got to play a few hours towards the end, but I won a large majority of my matches. Even the tri-color matches. So to learn we finished with 0 points was a surprise.
@@exocept1998 I agree. I feel like the spltfest results were just default options for the way points were given out, because there's no way that rock was more popular than scissors.
as part of the winning team (rock) I was surprised by that too, ye we were second at midpoint but figured tricolor splat woulda went the leaders way more often than not. and to be fair it might be that way once we're more accustomed to the whole game, sets and systems but it was surprisingly even'd out whilst playing. I saw all 3 teams win the tricolor at one point or another and it all really came down to how defensive a playstyle the lead team was running, if the two side teams with 2 members cant get the signals its surprisingly difficult to out coverage the team of 4...but if the team of 4 just camped the signal 1 good push from either of the side teams will result in 1 if not 2 signals to said pushing team. as for overall... I think the problem might have been they pulled Scisors teams from both pro and open, But tricolor ONLY counts as Open...got nothing to confirm that but its a theory
y'know, so was I Won most all my matches, learned the hard way tri color is WAY hard for the defenders, but still pulled off a few I thought with all the Big Man hype we would have at least gotten most popular Thank you for your service to Mr. Big Man, Bread Food, Deep Cut thanks you deeply But I think we can all agree on one thing At least paper lost (No offense to all my team paper pals out there, I got nothing against you 💜)
@@whachamacallit5864 nah my 7 year old was winning matches and getting medals all afternoon last Saturday. not even a child has any excuse for only getting 587p
3:07 the most unique connection issue I encountered is during Tricolor Turf War, I was Team Scissors and was defending the ultra signal with my teammates as usual, then suddenly, all of my teammates and the entirety of Team Rock had disconnected, the only people left was me and the entirety of Team Paper, I had gave up at that point and started a squid party with Team Paper since all three of us knew I won’t win, and we had partied until the end of the match.
I’ve got to say, I agree with you on that Aerospray. As an Aerospray player myself, I consider anything less than 700 points a disgrace, and anything under at least 850 a poor game. Seeing an Aerospray with only 500 points makes me think it’s called trash cannot instead of trash can.
the problem is tricolor matches require Scissors to have perfect synergy, but that isnt a requirement for the other teams. Plus the whole deal with them able ink scissors spawn but scissors can't even reach half of the other teams spawn.
This!! Scissors base was so small that by the time I actually made some decent coverage on the left/right side of the map I was on or died, there was already a bunch of blue and yellow because our spawn was so close to the center. I think tri-colors may get fixed though, as I saw the official JP Splatoon Twitter mentioning that they were gonna find a way to balance it.
I feel that’s going to be more of a map specific issue though. I’m not too used to the Turf version of the map used, but I feel like the spawn areas are usually closed off for Turf in that map. Other maps might be easier to invade enemy bases, but a bit of a handicap that I’d like to see included for the defending side is added platforms that make accessing enemy spawns more possible. Perhaps not all the time though, maybe more like a “Hey, you slipped up and lost the sprinklers. Not to worry, here’s bit of a helping hand”. Basically support from the winning side’s idol, as uh... dialogue from Big Man might have been nice to have during matches. Loved Tricolour as a whole though, might actually make me to want to play Turf Wars. ... even if it’s just during Splatfests...
Splatoon 3 tastes nice with salt. Though I also suggest trying Splatoon 3 with a side of pepper, really brings out the flavor. And have you ever tried adding crushed garlic on top? Sounds wierd, but I heavily recommend it.
As a scissors man I can say that the reason that everyone tries to defend the signal is that if someone takes it. Then you are DONE. I had a blast at the splatfest though.
Actually, I had a couple matches where my team (Paper) or team Rock got the Ultra Signals, and Scissors still won. You really gotta focus on still inking turf, yknow? There have also been matches where Team Rock got both the Ultra Signals and me and my partner won. You gotta ink- especially in the last 30 seconds. It's around that time when I usually decide to not go for the signal anymore
@@oranplan1630 yeah, the tactic me and a teammate used was, try to get the signal, and if we get one immediately go to ink turf. My teammate used dalies and I used the roller. We won all of our tri-color turf wars
I loved the splatfest! I managed to get to Paper Ruler +1 and definitely feel like I did what I could for my team. It’s unfortunate that we didn’t win but this definitely built hype for splatoon 3
Honestly it’s impressive paper got to second place, being at the biggest disadvantage with fewer players and being not made up of tryhards. It’s impressive they managed to get to second place.
@@Wolfkie I'm sure that scissors having so many players ended up lowering the average skill level to the point that paper was able to stand a chance with rock crushing scissors too.
@@SleepingEgg117 Used the Tri Slosher for practicality all of the splatfest and had a blast. (I used the N-ZAP for the first two or so matches before using the bucket for the rest of the splatfest) And when I mean the Tri Slosher, I mean only the Tri Slosher. The sub and special really don't synergise with it at all.
4:57 omg these "stereotypes" are too accurate :O a fellow paper talking here, I had the mindset of "yes we are gonna be last, but Im just gonna have a blast" Being not last was a surprise when the results came in
I love the idea that a civilization very different from our own is still drawing amogus beans that stretch across walls. The splatfest was cool too I guess. Gg's to Rock again!
I remember winning my first tricolor as scissors, I felt like a god standing amongst three other gods. Me and the team I was with went on a win streak, including ANOTHER tricolor, and said our farewells via a connection issue.
5:09 I felt like I was the only one (maybe 10 more people out there) who picked scissors bc I usually play scissors first and big man only happened to be the head of the team. If it was Frye then I'd still pick Scissors. Guess it's a bit of a rant but I have a mini crisis over splatfest teams. I take those ridiculous choices seriously lol
Me and my two homies on scissors humbly apologize for the more cringe scissors teammates, that being said I got two 100× battles for the big guy and a 12 win streak as well.
I went with scissors because I always start with scissors in rock, paper, scissors (easy tip to beat me)... Tricolor was frustrating as scissors because we couldn't opt out (unless you played the pro games, which we couldn't do if we were teamed up with friends). We also had no clue what was going on. ("What's the Ultra Signal? Why can't I use it? Can I destroy the one the enemy got?") I won a few matches, but I mostly chalk that up to the enemy teams having no idea what they were doing either lol.
i picked scissors because i had a match of madness roulette (imagine pico roulette but online) where we only picked scissors for 5 minutes straight we shouted the word scissors at eachother in the discord VC
@@plaant6677 I'm suddenly reminded of the time a group of us were playing rock paper scissors to decide who had to do something (I forget what). One guy threw paper, while the rest of us (like 5 or 6 people) threw scissors. The guy who lost accused the rest of us of cheating, but it's not like we had any way of knowing what he was going to throw; it was just a crazy coincidence.
While I was sad that paper lost, I was glad that we at least got second place! Btw, the reason I chose paper was because everybody chooses rock in roshambo, it’s a basic counter. EDIT: I just want to make it clear, it doesn’t mean that rock isn’t a good choice though; any strategy because extremely situational after the first round. Which is perfectly shown in this splatfest.
Being a scissors enjoyer I did way better in tricolor playing backline!! But it was worrisome that I’d accidentally be matched with people who could do the same if I wasn’t playing with viewers 😂 loved hearing your thoughts about the testfire and glad you enjoyed it!!
You have quite literally stated the problem with Tri-Color. It's quite obvious the mode was made for people who could successfully communicate with one another. It works well enough for streamers who can tell teammates watching the stream what needs to be done, but not so well for what I believe the majority of players to be: Randoms. If you can't communicate, you'll get roflstomped by the attackers. If all four players on the defense are in a discord call or something and have a game plan, you get to roflstomp the attackers.
Heavy felt amazing to play, and blaster felt good. The kit for blaster (only big bubbler) was the reason why I didn’t play it. It was bad, just that other weapons felt better to play because of their kits. Vblaster has auto bomb, which is good, it just need something, like crab, inkzooka, or maybe even wave breaker.
Honestly the fan base for each idol is so true. As being in team paper&Frye fan I think everyone agrees that we were happy just to be in the splatfest. And didn't expect to be in 2nd place after the results came out.
Trash can was lowkey the best weapon i played, i was winning around 80% of the games I played with it. if you run fast and use all the new mobility and high inking power to flank around and paint the ground behind the enemy team, it's a massive waste of time for them to chase you off, and your team gets a lot more space to pick them off along with hugely helping score in turf war. also totsugeki lets you suprise wipe all of them, which is very handy in tricolor and since it's the trash can, it charges very fast. still wont stop the people using it from perfect painting ant sized paint holes in your base I suppose. If you're not getting1200 points per match with it you're trash.
Hell yeah, Trash cans for life, you underestimate our power. Put special charge up on all your equipment and then go collect some kills with your constant dolphin of doom.
I used aerospray for practically all my tricolor battles. I found the fizzy bombs to ink tons of turf and snagging signals for paper was a breeze by waiting for an opportunity to shark kamikaze into the center.
I was scissors and it definitely took me a long time to realize we could split up and get into the enemy spawn. A combination of the map being reworked from one where that wasn't possible and the direct telling us specifically to guard the signal made it a pretty easy mistake imo. I'm also a little concerned by how insanely high the clout is for both winning teams when defender loses in tricolor. Not because it screwed us over though (that was mostly the direct) but because I'm not sure how paper was realistically supposed to come back after the first half of splatfest. I hope they'll balance that a little better in live, but over all. I think tricolor is a fun and challenging new mode that offers a lot to all three teams and I'm sorry if the greater scissors squad displayed a higher rate of toxicity than rock (not paper tho, I agree, they were all cinnamon rolls). As big man would say to them "ayyy!"
I'm gonna say this as a Rock person, but I think one of the ways you could design maps to most effectively use the Tricolor matchset is to slightly tweek the Spawners, mostly by changing the angle they're facing to emphasize "Ink the turf" portion for the Tricolors for the middle team. Or maybe less intuitively, allow shortcuts for the middle team to effectively reach the Ultra Signal, but not allow them to use the area as choke points (like using grates). However, I will admit I only had one true Tricolor experience, so I am definitely not enough to say what is this or what is that.
2:25 they aren’t weak it’s just that they are entirely new classes which naturally would come with a learning curve. So far the tri stringer does area denial and chip damage and the splatana just combos it’s two swings along with their sub and specials for an inky slaughtering. (Made me feel like the storm that was approaching)
1:44 I believe it actually takes _longer_ for most weapons to charge their specials in 3, and this was a deliberately change from splatoon 2 where special spam was a major problem at higher levels of play
I'm glad you're not obsessed with him like the others. I've been constantly annoyed by seeing that bullcrap go on. Maybe that obsession will die down soon enough.
I remember you playing with me, actually that was me with the splatana on the scoreboard at 2:15! I was using the splatana from the start of the Splatfest, so I at least had some practice, but I get the pains of using the new weapons when scoring was the most important thing. Thanks for some good matches though, Scott. Enjoyed playing with you!
I do not associate with most scissors supporters. I only joined for big man, and I refuse to be toxic, because big man wouldn’t want that. It was fun, and I’m glad that splatfests will be more neck-and-neck if the halftime is anything to go by. Plus there’s gonna be more splatfests down the road to do big man proud.
Tricolor matches are basically a catastrophe for whoever takes the early lead, the only way we (i was on scissors) won any matches was when i grouped up with my friends and we made a plan ahead of time.
I do heavily agree on the part about how the Splatfest teams got… a little aggressive online. I joined Scissors because I thought Big Man was funny and more importantly I wanted to play with friends. But it was the worst was going online and just seeing how chaotic and toxic it was, there was a fair bit of toxicity from both sides actually, and that doesn’t make me proud in the slightest. Really sucks that some people’s first impressions could be this. I fully believe that people will quiet down a little more in the future though. Super excited from Splatoon 3, I hope to see you cover it more in the future!
I can only hope that most of the horrible people will be weeded out eventually, either through time or through most people who played not even actually wanting to spend the $60 on the game
I think it's really unfair though and tricolor matches for the defending team since there's no way to disable their ink thing so they essentially have a permanent 20 ink that there's nothing you can do about if they hit the thing once
If you're playing right, the defending team still has a decent map advantage. easy access to the large center and the sprinkler only covers one half of the attacking team's side
I was on team scissors and I think we kinda just suffered a skill issue, I’m definitely not best on defence and I assume most people are better at offence. Though I think that they could make the rockets be on a timer, it’ll probably get better as more people learn how to play a good defence
@Bloo Berri In the end I don't think the problem is that it's impossible to win as Defense It's just really difficult and frustrating if you're a solo player
@@Ed-1749 I think more of the issue is that it was hard to get to the signal fast enough, and for some stupid reason dying while trying to cap it secretly decreased the capture time. Also everyone but siccors had a base and reefslider can break the map they picked.
Cool review. I hope the splatana can swing a bit faster personally, I kinda like the midrange slashes and they can be cool for comboing. But the normal swings just take years to kill.
The vertical slash is an insta kill up close an it charges in a second. I used the splatana all splatfest an by then end I was killing up to 5 people a match an 11 people tops in a match. It's a paintbrushes weapon an since I main paintbrush I found it really easy to ink turf an get kills.
Personally I was on team scissors and playing the test run was really fun and the tri color battles were fine just feels like the ultra signal need maybe minor nerfs but I think it was more frustrating how unreliable teammates and inconsistent they were but team rock was better so I might switch over to that one when it comes out
Unfortunately that always happens with splatfests. Consistently, they've always been reverse popularity contests. Where the most popular pick loses for the most part. Since those teams have the highest % of lower ranked players and will on average lose more matches than win. Tribattles just make the situation worse because the more popular team will often be the defending mid, and therefore lose more often because the odds are literally stacked against you. I had a blast playing, but man was it abundantly clear that I wasn't going to win that many matches as a scissors player.
@@PyraXadon Rock won the popularity, though. Though I guess maybe that's why Scissors won the first half, but if that's how it is, now we have a system that works on a reverse popularity scale for the first half and a regular popularity scale for the second half, which kind of just punishes your team for trying in the first 6 hours.
Yea, if team scissors wasn't defending the Sprinkler then it was basically a lost for the team but then it also created this camping games where the team has to always be in the middle. Often at times I leave to push forward and then we would have lost the sprinkler. They could definitely change it up to make less centre focus.
"i guess paper was there too" as a member of team paper I can confirm we kinda just stood in the background while rock and scissors went after each other's throat
The splatfest was honestly really great and the specials felt well balanced for once. However I have to disagree that tricolour is balanced, during most of the event I was playing in vcs with friends and we bodied in almost every tricolour we got into. However during part of the fest I was playing completely alone and defence became a nightmare. The mode is balanced just fine if you can communicate with your team, outside of that you end up with approaches being completely missed leading to a flanker killing a team mate and causing an inevitable downward spiral. If they made ultra signal a temporary thing rather than, if the attackers get them both they just win, it might be a bit more fair. It's hard to say though, seems like the kinda thing that will have to get tweaked between fest quite often. Congrats on the win anyway.
As a rock player I think tricolor is balanced but... Sturgeon shipyard was not, it allowed attackers to hop into enemy's spawns and there was no real place for team scissors to hide as they were being attacked from all sides. If the map was better (for instance a straight line where team scissors only worry's about the front and back and niether attacking team meets eachother until it reaches the middle) tricolor would have been balanced.
yeah i only ever won a single tricolor and it was by a percentage, maybe if there was a way to provide a tad bit more offense to the defender aside from gear loadouts it be a bit more enjoyable/reasonable? but as a comeback mechanic the way it stands now if one team gets two ultra signals its borderline impossible to win the match maybe if the signal lasted less.
@@thatonejester3387 I disagree. Even with a better map, the game mode relies too much on communication (eg teammates guarding approaches) which isn't feasible for a defence team of randoms, no matter how well you play someone can easily flank and kill you from behind if your teammates aren't guarding well or at all. Like I said, if the ultra signal wasn't permanent, it would make the game far more balanced in solo queues. (also as a side note, this is the same reason clam blitz is such a hated mode, the game is fun and well designed for league games, but playing it in ranked is aneurism inducing as you sit through teammates who are in S+ and yet still don't know how to aim clams or why I'm spamming this way when the have a super and I'm sitting next to the basket)
I honestly wasn't a fan of the specials, but then again I wasn't a fan of the S2 specials either until I got used to them. Still, I'm bummed that there wasn't any defensive type special like bubbler or ink armor. I loved the n-zap because its special could also just be used as a free reload, but activating and tossing down the drink stand AND having to swim up to it in order to get any benefit from it took so long that that strategy was basically out the window. Same with the 6 mini stingray laser thingy's that take soooo long to home in on someone. I'm surprised everyone thinks S3 feels faster than S2, since it's the exact opposite for me
As a person on team scissors who won over half of their tricolours the amount of effort we had to put in to not get fucking destroyed was immense. I don’t think the mode is well balanced because rock and paper could afford to make a few mistakes while with scissors you lost if you or your team made one. I just hope they nerf the ultra signal slightly and make scissors not have an aids spawn next splatfest.
There’s hope for the maps, I noticed some heavy sponge usage in the new maps. Edit: Also setting up for friends was a BREEZE. Despite the fact we’d be DC’ed from each other due to various reasons, the process was incredibly fast letting us jump right in quickly even with minor tech issues. I also love seeing your friends muck about the training stage as holos. Also made it a lot more clear when you were re-queuing with the same people. I’m excited for the future of Splatoon, and feverishly await the full release so I can grind that X-rank again! This time maybe with friends :)
My experience with the testfire was seeing all the level 4 people in the plaza, trying to join a match, not being able to, then a week later learning it was for only one day.
Yeah people are being salty, I think tri-colour was a bit too lopsided but I doubt we were gonna win either way because I saw way more rock fans than scissors fans.
as a rock member I will formally accept ur apology. tho u were not the ones being salty, and being a sour puss. So you have my respect and the title as giga chads. also team paper I apologize for our teams behavior too. In all good game for all
@Bloo Berri I'm actually open to Fyre's whole 5Head situation attraction wise, I've enjoyed some nice art of her but yeah there's no denying that Shiver is by far the most conventionally attractive of the 3, and the simp wars are certainly a thing with this series.
5:23 I can say that for all three. Rock was exactly the same as scissors , and paper...their calm about the actual competition but wine alot about people not likeing Frye that as a person who sorta likes Frye kinda wishes the character was used for something else. I've seen people obsessed with characters but this is the first time I've seen them demand others to love their favorite and not get called out on it.
Yeah, seeing the weird Big Man obsession has me feeling worried for how the fanbase will be going into Splatoon 3. Also, I honestly haven't seen that same weird behavior for team rock, other than people automatically calling Shiver "nonbinary" because they're so desperate for some stupid representation.
Agreed, as a Frye fan I hate how all I see of her from both haters and fans is the constant reducement of "haha big forehead" either positively or negatively from respected sides. Obviously, not everyone is like that, but the loudest is going to be the most seen. It feels like all of Deep Cut have been reduced to one single attribute and if you don't like that then "DNI, you're wrong IDIOT". With Shiver it's the whole "they are nonbinary and if you don't agree you're WRONG and PROBLEMATIC", with Big Man it's... honestly I'm not sure, I think it's his different design and name, people took that and became obsessed to a worrying degree, and Frye is "Big forehead". It's just kind of a shame because they're all good designs and characters but the demand for "inclusion" where it's not needed, scary stan behaviour and general shallowness is blocking all of the beauty out like a giant stain you can't wash out. I'm really in love with these characters and this game but these future splatfests are worrying me.
I may have been team rock but I was rooting for everyone. I didn't care who won I was just there for fun. I fought hard for team rock sure. But I woulda been just fine if paper or scissors won.
@@wintersong2266 As rock player. I apologize on behalf of my team. We're not all toxic. ... But I do absolutely agree with you. Paper was pretty chill. Except on the battlefield. Every time I fought paper they were MONSTERS! Absolutely destroyed me every time. Even when it was just 2 in tri color. I spent a lot of that trying to figure out why we're bothering to fight each other as well as scissors. But you do get more clout for your team if you get the thing in the middle. But the defending team definitely needs some sort of boost to make it even possible once the ultra signals have been snagged. Maybe a way to shut em down? Or a longer battle time? A boost to their ink tank idk SOMETHING. Cause if it continues like this. People aren't gonna want to win early on out of fear of becoming the defending team.
Honestly I think Rock looks the best and of the girls is pretty likely to be the new 'most people pick this one regardless of actual preference' but scissors looks pretty good and can maybe break up that dynamic.....meanwhile Paper looks like a abomination to me. If I can ever play the game maybe they'll turn me around on choices but....yeah.
Man picking scissors was aaawful. I did so cause most of my friends were on it, and I did pretty well I think, but lordy almighty were tricolor matches abysmal to deal with, especially with random people. The best part of it was the experience and getting to play for hours with my buds though, so I can't complain!
I never played a single Splatfest in Splatoon or Splatoon 2, I luckily played the Splatoon 3 one and I had fun the whole time I played the event even though I lose a bit of matches
Haven’t really used the aero spray since the original Splatoon, but I remember it being absolutely nuts back then - especially the one with the mines sub-weapon.
Friggin' love seeing you do splatoon content and having something this fresh and interesting is going to be fun to watch you have fun with! Hope to tune in and join a few customs sometime, love this game. Love your content!
As one of the rare civil scissors supporters, we may disagree on what is best in Rock Paper Scissors but if we set aside our differences… Arospray is trash
The jabs at team scissors were funny at first but the harder it got to tell if it was hyperbole the more it started to feel like i was in a cod lobby without the slurs.
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Tricolor being designed to give other teams an edge probably would’ve worked out better if the teams weren’t a single percentage apart from eachother
ye
it's like the blue shell in mario kart
rather than being a great equalizer, it just bodies those who got an early head start
@@Simon-xi7lb yeah but It they remove It i Wuled be more harder to recover
Omg your pfp
Me who used trash can the majority of the splatfest cause i was super out of practice: …ok
While tri color battles felt stacked against us (scissors), this is called a TESTfire for a reason. I honestly had a lot of fun with the splatfest and look forward towards the next.
it was stacked against you bc youre bad, coming from a scissors whose won them
I'm very much not sold on the tri-battle mode yet. I'm curious to see how it evolves
As a Scissors player, I felt the same at first, til I realized most weapon sets I was playing with had some way to take out enemies in the center while practically still in spawn.
at that point the game was camp center from range and ink all around me, and do a push near the end, after getting one team wiped.
Kinda boring, but it took me from 0/3 in tri color matches to about 10/4 by the end of the splatfest.
I do like it, if only to see how the meta will change over time, and to see how it plays out in other maps.
yeah. i was playing with my friends and we all got a ton of kills and 1000p+ constantly and we did a pretty good job of defending the signal, but we still only won like half the matches anyways. It was a good time but I hope the tricolor battles are a little more balanced next time around. and as you said, it was just testing for now :)
Important note, this one actually _wasn't_ called a Testfire, it was called a World Premier, which is notable as Splatoon 2 actually had *_BOTH_* a Testfire and a Global Premier, where the Testfire was a demo earlier in development to help them with balancing and server optimization for normal Turf war, and the Global Premier came close to when Splatoon 2 was ready to drop to build and gauge hype and _maybe_ as a distant 3rd priority, iron out any kinks in the Splatfest format going into it's release. This time around, based on the naming scheme and timing, it seems like their focus was on the latter
As a team paper member I can confirm, most of us went into the splatfest knowing we probably won't win. We didn't stand a chance against the Shiver and Big Man fans. Also Frye's forehead is the best Splatoon player, change my mind
Forget inking the turf, frye's forehead is the turf
I went in knowing I would get a single digit number of vs self
When choosing what t-shirt to pick, my mind had a split second decision of "do I want to win or do I choose who I like the most"??? Picked up paper and went running towards Frye to show her my new splatfest gear.
Paper Loyalists, Rock Supremists, and Scissors
I'm just here to answer honestly with my splatfest vote and have fun! I drew a nice origami dragon for the festival :D
I think tricolor is fine but I think it needs its own designed maps. It is really missing that special feeling that the shifty stations had, plus playing defendse on such a small space really sucked.
I feel like what they should do is that every 1-2 hours in the halftime they re-evaluate who is actually on top, like that not just one team has to defend throughout the whole halftime. It would add to the variety and fun for the teams while not being as much as a huge disadvantage to the team that ends up being first at the halftime. It could also add to the chaos and more balance out the rush of who gets first.
Truth
Since normal splatfests are usual 2 days long I'd say to bump up the time between changes to 3-4 hours. A great idea regardless
that is actually a really good idea
The Splatfest was overall pretty fun, but damn, I really shouldn't have picked scissors. Those tricolor matches were hell on earth for the defending teams.
Yeah, it was unfortunate. We’ll reclaim Big Man’s honor next time, I swear
Agreed
True it was some times chaos
Yeah you guys on scissors got the job of trying to figure out the defending role for the first time. I on the other hand was just like. I ride in on a shark and explode.
Ain't that kind of the point
I was on team scissors, the ultra signals felt too strong to me tbh, once an enemy team gets one they've essentially locked down their own area and trying to take it is pointless. If the same team gets both, they even lock you out of the center area that's supposed to be yours. It really pressures you to stay in the middle and probably not ink enough turf to win
Personally I think they should only appear temporarily instead of staying forever until someone gets them. It's basically like asking the defending team to keep a splat zone for the entirety of a game or you lose
was a team paper myself, and though i can mostly agree with the sentiment, it is still a turf war. If the signals are taken, defenders probably need to change strats to offense, trying to push back one or both teams. The signals are only super sprinklers, they can be outpaced, it is just a matter of not leaving them be to reclaim areas. I think another part of the problem was that attackers almost always had high ground, with the only real exception being direct pushes on the signal itself when every moving thing was in the down position. Maybe another map will work better, the question is simply how they will accommodate the third team.
And then even if you keep it... you STILL lose, because you can't do the turf covering needed to keep points. All my matches it never really felt like a 4v2v2(optional), because at all times there was immense pressure from both teams and so much going on it honestly never felt like they only had 2 people at a time.
If you went to keep their ink at bay they'd end up in the middle somehow. If you tried to defend their spawns would surge outwards with ink like a plague and eventually overwhelm you. Being the leading team in this mode seems to just be a death sentence from this showcase and I don't really like that. Hopefully it was just a poor map, or hopefully the beacons get a rework because as a new player myself it'll be a big downer seeing such a hyped up event like a splatfest completely up to whether or not you're WINNING (with that being a detriment) by the time tricolor battles come in.
@@cullenlatham2366 a yes just win what is basically a 4v6 thats easy
@@zx-dx719 "basically a 4v6" I don't think you math'd correctly.
@@bluelfsuma bud you do know that there are 2 US's
As someone on scissors: Tri-color was fun! However, it was... INCREDIBLY difficult. If you don't defend the ultra signal, you're at a permanent disadvantage. If you defend the ultra signal, the enemy teams get to have free reign over their own side and you can't do much about it. The only time I was winning tricolor games was when I could trust my team to 3v2v2 the enemy team and cover territory that they refused to grab, considering they were camping the middle. It felt like there were no right choices in how to play that mode.
But most of the time it was nearly impossible to defend that thing anyways--- I rarely won tricolor matches, despite them being fun as hell. I feel like they definitely need to balance it more, since it just kinda makes the game feel like "Get in second place before tri-color, or die." Especially because the middle team gets flanked on both sides, and *any* victory counts as a W for both attackers, therefore leaving no incentive for the opposing teams to attack eachother to win.
But also it WAS fun and I think the splatfest was fucking banger even though I lost! I definitely hope they can figure out the balance of the splatfest a bit more, but overall, t'was good experience as long as you ignore the people getting toxic online over not winning on their funny squid game.
These were my thoughts exactly considering... everything
These were my thoughts exactly considering... everything. You gotta admit there was toxicity between both scissors and rock though. It wasn't really just a scissors thing.
I saw a comment once on another video suggesting the defending and attacking teams should change each match so, instead of just Scissors defending each battle, Paper or Rock could be given the defense position (especially considering how Scissors was only winning by a 1% margin during half-time).
@@QueenLethargy updating defending team between each match would be a nice change, since the point is to have more of a back-and-forth rather than the clean sweeps some previous generation splatfests have been.
i agree with this, it was fun but way too hard
5:03
I was on Team Paper and this was basically my mentality throughout the whole thing, lol. I had a freaking blast during the Splatfest, win or lose, but I was genuinely surprised we weren't in the bottom at the end. I didn't go into this expecting to win much, but it seems like we managed to hold our own! :)
Meanwhile in Australia. Paper took the mad L, scissors came second and the universal truth of rock winning.
@@thenerfkid9228 as well as Asia as I understand.
I was on team Scissors for Big Man, and didn't realize just how cruel other members were, I had a good team going, and experienced a large amount of sadness when we lost, because I thought I failed my king, Big Man.
I felt the exact same, people are kinda cruel to big man supporters
Now I gotta “cut” to the chase here, I was a dumbass for choosing scissors, but who *DIDNT* choose for the biggest man of em all
scissors was still the correct team :) i feel like the splatfest was a terrible way for people to try out the new weapons for the first time, at least for the tri-stringer it kind of did a terrible job at inking turf and when the entire splatfest is just turf war.... not the best weapon to pick!
I was really hoping we could normal queue to test them. And there was no way of knowing if wed have a ditto match. I am super excited to see how stringer evolves in ranked specifically. The like delayed burst seems like it'll get dirty in select modes.
@@ScottFalco is think its gonna be dirty for tower. The hits plus leaving exploding darts will make staying on tower tricky.
I actually got a lot out of the stringer with using it to zone and support without a full charge, got one really good match in gorge (the new splatlands map, I'm horrible with names) where I basically pressured people at the end of the match from advancing from their base from the center tower
Sure I was almost always near the bottom of the points but I usually got a (relatively) respectable 500-700 on bad matches, and close to 800-900 on good ones, considering I was mainly focusing on support I'm happy with the results
Hey Hacker! I was also on team scissors! Good game :))
theres a hacker in the lobby!!!11!
From what I can tell, Aerospray actually was buffed in 3. There were several engagements where I stayed what I thought was safely out of range of the Aero but its buffed range (and maybe rng, I'm not sure) caught me by surprise. And Splatanas and Stringers are probably going to be _wild_ once competitive players get some more time to lab them out--neither seems particularly good for Turf.
Maybe, but early in both Splat 1 and 2 the aerosprays were considered OP. It seems like lag shenanigans make them really strong.
@@leonidasrose2060 as someone who picked up the areospray for the first time during the test fire, I feel like I got an unholy amount of kills with the main weapon, even if it’s unreliable you can still be aggressive to the point of getting 8 kills with it by getting up in their face or getting assists (even though over half of the kills were by the special)
It’s hilarious to me personally how someone like me (a person who used to flank with inkbrush) could play the aerospray with an aggressive playstyle comfortably
@@irritableblue1940 That's like my exact experience too, it's almost reminds me of Pyro in tf2 with the flank style encouraged by the brushes letting the aerospray shine if your positioning is on point...
But then again who needs positioning when you can use the visor and just reefslide to victory.
I liked playing curling bomb launcher.. I mean aerospray in 2 and it just doesn't feel the same without the annoying special. The Jr both paints and kills better except it had a worse kit.
i rocked the splatana in the test fire and it was the first time ive ever been actually really good playing splatoon online and i got most turf inked over weapons that were designed to ink turf pretty often
"Team Paper was there" is the most accurate description of what I as someone who played on Team Paper was doing.
True man I was team paper
i was slaying for team paper but that wasn't enough apparently
Rip Team Paper
Ha still had fun even if paper did not win. Still no regrets playing for the team
Paper pals 🤝
Scissors was an absolutely miserable time in part 2. They need to tweak this SO hard.
Big Man going through EXACTLY what happened to Marina is hilarious!
Pick the side you like not the idol I thought people would have learned after Marina lost all the first few splatfest
I did pick side but seeing this video and people hate on big man I'm now only choosing his side (and sometimes frye's side)
All the teams are equal so you had to choose based off idol
I have to say, adding a third choice for splatfests bring a new layer of strategy without adding anything unnecessary. There’s gonna be a lot of “enemy of my enemy” alliances from here on out
"I wanted to be the storm that is approaching but I felt more like a drizzle that's... standing by the road... looking... anxious"
- vergil sparda (probably)
I bet that's how he feels whenever he loses to the funny man
@@birrock4 the wacky woohoo pizza man
I on the other hand thought the splatana would make me feel like the thicc brazilian man that likes bloodshed
@@motivatedman9730 weakest brazilian male
You see vergil, what you lack... is this (pulls out the Trash Can)
Every day since the testfire wrapped up I've been dying to play the full release. Also seeing your art in the lobby was really cool.
I feel the pain at 4:35, I completely relate to this, I just couldn't wrap my mind around the fact that Team Paper (I was Team Rock) absolutely *refused* to work with me when taking down Team Scissors, it felt like I was up against 6 players at once. Good thing it was a Test Fire, that way Nintendo can hopefully tweak these things
I thought it was a bit unfair for me and the other scissors, but since I spent the 12 hours in the training area only I only realized in the next few days how terrible team scissors acted. To those on the other teams affected by this, on behalf of team scissors, sorry.
Also the aerospray is NOT TRASH I usually get ~850p with it
I get 1300p with it so it's not bad you're right, also why was team scissors acting like that? Because we had a one point lead? I see why rock is being toxic idiots now, but that's still no excuse for them. Telling people to kill themselves over a fricking game is crazy.
Really, yes. I missed the demo due to a misunderstanding on my part and afterwards finding out my team were being jerks about losing, only made losing feel worse (although I only voted) and finally, aerospray is not trash, it just seems some people don't know how to play it.
I was on Scissors and I found it kinda wild to learn we lost so hard. Personally I only got to play a few hours towards the end, but I won a large majority of my matches. Even the tri-color matches.
So to learn we finished with 0 points was a surprise.
@@exocept1998 I agree. I feel like the spltfest results were just default options for the way points were given out, because there's no way that rock was more popular than scissors.
as part of the winning team (rock) I was surprised by that too, ye we were second at midpoint but figured tricolor splat woulda went the leaders way more often than not. and to be fair it might be that way once we're more accustomed to the whole game, sets and systems but it was surprisingly even'd out whilst playing.
I saw all 3 teams win the tricolor at one point or another and it all really came down to how defensive a playstyle the lead team was running, if the two side teams with 2 members cant get the signals its surprisingly difficult to out coverage the team of 4...but if the team of 4 just camped the signal 1 good push from either of the side teams will result in 1 if not 2 signals to said pushing team.
as for overall... I think the problem might have been they pulled Scisors teams from both pro and open, But tricolor ONLY counts as Open...got nothing to confirm that but its a theory
y'know, so was I
Won most all my matches, learned the hard way tri color is WAY hard for the defenders, but still pulled off a few
I thought with all the Big Man hype we would have at least gotten most popular
Thank you for your service to Mr. Big Man, Bread Food, Deep Cut thanks you deeply
But I think we can all agree on one thing
At least paper lost
(No offense to all my team paper pals out there, I got nothing against you 💜)
@@USB_Cable 2nd place is better then last
@@thanoid2373 Who?
As a trash can main and enjoyer, i'm also confused by that 500 score
with that aside, can't wait to see more Scottt Splatoon 3 content! :D
Everyone on stream was baffled too. Like even if that was there first ever splatoon game idk man
I'm willing to believe that a literal child somehow managed to play the game at this point.
@@whachamacallit5864 nah my 7 year old was winning matches and getting medals all afternoon last Saturday. not even a child has any excuse for only getting 587p
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@@dinolandra I think Vinny would be the kind of person to score only 587p with an Aerospray.
That wasn’t just a side of salt; that was pouring the entire saltshaker, and then some.
Nah it was just dunking on team scissors
But ggs
Just a heads-up, I think you swapped your comma and your semicolon.
@@that1sprig I mean, yeah.
He poured the entire saltshaker on team scissors.
@@dumpingstirs1143 he left like one grain for Paper
3:07 the most unique connection issue I encountered is during Tricolor Turf War, I was Team Scissors and was defending the ultra signal with my teammates as usual, then suddenly, all of my teammates and the entirety of Team Rock had disconnected, the only people left was me and the entirety of Team Paper, I had gave up at that point and started a squid party with Team Paper since all three of us knew I won’t win, and we had partied until the end of the match.
I’ve got to say, I agree with you on that Aerospray. As an Aerospray player myself, I consider anything less than 700 points a disgrace, and anything under at least 850 a poor game. Seeing an Aerospray with only 500 points makes me think it’s called trash cannot instead of trash can.
the problem is tricolor matches require Scissors to have perfect synergy, but that isnt a requirement for the other teams. Plus the whole deal with them able ink scissors spawn but scissors can't even reach half of the other teams spawn.
This!! Scissors base was so small that by the time I actually made some decent coverage on the left/right side of the map I was on or died, there was already a bunch of blue and yellow because our spawn was so close to the center. I think tri-colors may get fixed though, as I saw the official JP Splatoon Twitter mentioning that they were gonna find a way to balance it.
Oh no it is a requirement for other teams, having a bad partner with a bad weapon is a death sentence basically which sucks in solo queue
I feel that’s going to be more of a map specific issue though. I’m not too used to the Turf version of the map used, but I feel like the spawn areas are usually closed off for Turf in that map. Other maps might be easier to invade enemy bases, but a bit of a handicap that I’d like to see included for the defending side is added platforms that make accessing enemy spawns more possible. Perhaps not all the time though, maybe more like a “Hey, you slipped up and lost the sprinklers. Not to worry, here’s bit of a helping hand”. Basically support from the winning side’s idol, as uh... dialogue from Big Man might have been nice to have during matches.
Loved Tricolour as a whole though, might actually make me to want to play Turf Wars. ... even if it’s just during Splatfests...
@@ampersanders i alternated between tricolour and turf during the fest bc i was on team paper.
Splatoon 3 tastes nice with salt. Though I also suggest trying Splatoon 3 with a side of pepper, really brings out the flavor. And have you ever tried adding crushed garlic on top? Sounds wierd, but I heavily recommend it.
Don’t forget a spritz of lemon juice.
@@redtexan7053 I mean, duh. It's practically inedible otherwise.
You know a couple of cayenne peppers actually goes pretty well with it
a few chilli flakes sprinkled on never hurts either
Old bay bro trust me
As a scissors man I can say that the reason that everyone tries to defend the signal is that if someone takes it. Then you are DONE. I had a blast at the splatfest though.
Actually, I had a couple matches where my team (Paper) or team Rock got the Ultra Signals, and Scissors still won. You really gotta focus on still inking turf, yknow? There have also been matches where Team Rock got both the Ultra Signals and me and my partner won. You gotta ink- especially in the last 30 seconds. It's around that time when I usually decide to not go for the signal anymore
@@oranplan1630 yeah, the tactic me and a teammate used was, try to get the signal, and if we get one immediately go to ink turf. My teammate used dalies and I used the roller. We won all of our tri-color turf wars
I loved the splatfest! I managed to get to Paper Ruler +1 and definitely feel like I did what I could for my team. It’s unfortunate that we didn’t win but this definitely built hype for splatoon 3
Honestly it’s impressive paper got to second place, being at the biggest disadvantage with fewer players and being not made up of tryhards. It’s impressive they managed to get to second place.
@@Wolfkie I'm sure that scissors having so many players ended up lowering the average skill level to the point that paper was able to stand a chance with rock crushing scissors too.
I managed to get Rock Ruler +1 on the last match before the splatfest ended in my region.
@@Gulliblepikmin Nice! What was the weapon you used most?
@@SleepingEgg117 Used the Tri Slosher for practicality all of the splatfest and had a blast.
(I used the N-ZAP for the first two or so matches before using the bucket for the rest of the splatfest)
And when I mean the Tri Slosher, I mean only the Tri Slosher. The sub and special really don't synergise with it at all.
4:57 omg these "stereotypes" are too accurate :O a fellow paper talking here, I had the mindset of "yes we are gonna be last, but Im just gonna have a blast"
Being not last was a surprise when the results came in
I love the idea that a civilization very different from our own is still drawing amogus beans that stretch across walls. The splatfest was cool too I guess. Gg's to Rock again!
"History repeats itself"
I remember winning my first tricolor as scissors, I felt like a god standing amongst three other gods. Me and the team I was with went on a win streak, including ANOTHER tricolor, and said our farewells via a connection issue.
Classic splatoon bonding right there
@@Peterphoskytos we even squidbagged in the lobby, all 4 of us
@@necrochasm7499 beautiful. Only had that with 1 person called sam, and the map rotation ended our bond 😔
Instantly recognized scotts art 😭
"oh there he is"
More like recognizing CC
5:09 I felt like I was the only one (maybe 10 more people out there) who picked scissors bc I usually play scissors first and big man only happened to be the head of the team. If it was Frye then I'd still pick Scissors.
Guess it's a bit of a rant but I have a mini crisis over splatfest teams. I take those ridiculous choices seriously lol
Me and my two homies on scissors humbly apologize for the more cringe scissors teammates, that being said I got two 100× battles for the big guy and a 12 win streak as well.
I went with scissors because I always start with scissors in rock, paper, scissors (easy tip to beat me)...
Tricolor was frustrating as scissors because we couldn't opt out (unless you played the pro games, which we couldn't do if we were teamed up with friends). We also had no clue what was going on. ("What's the Ultra Signal? Why can't I use it? Can I destroy the one the enemy got?") I won a few matches, but I mostly chalk that up to the enemy teams having no idea what they were doing either lol.
i picked scissors because i had a match of madness roulette (imagine pico roulette but online) where we only picked scissors for 5 minutes straight
we shouted the word scissors at eachother in the discord VC
@@plaant6677 I'm suddenly reminded of the time a group of us were playing rock paper scissors to decide who had to do something (I forget what). One guy threw paper, while the rest of us (like 5 or 6 people) threw scissors. The guy who lost accused the rest of us of cheating, but it's not like we had any way of knowing what he was going to throw; it was just a crazy coincidence.
While I was sad that paper lost, I was glad that we at least got second place!
Btw, the reason I chose paper was because everybody chooses rock in roshambo, it’s a basic counter.
EDIT: I just want to make it clear, it doesn’t mean that rock isn’t a good choice though; any strategy because extremely situational after the first round. Which is perfectly shown in this splatfest.
woooo, team paper!
I usually see people do scissors first in Rock Paper Scissors, so I always pick rock as a counter pick lol
@@bluerious5475 Hm, must be a regional thing then…
Being a scissors enjoyer I did way better in tricolor playing backline!! But it was worrisome that I’d accidentally be matched with people who could do the same if I wasn’t playing with viewers 😂 loved hearing your thoughts about the testfire and glad you enjoyed it!!
It’s the crazy American I saw advertising splatoon 3!
You have quite literally stated the problem with Tri-Color. It's quite obvious the mode was made for people who could successfully communicate with one another. It works well enough for streamers who can tell teammates watching the stream what needs to be done, but not so well for what I believe the majority of players to be: Randoms. If you can't communicate, you'll get roflstomped by the attackers. If all four players on the defense are in a discord call or something and have a game plan, you get to roflstomp the attackers.
Heavy felt amazing to play, and blaster felt good. The kit for blaster (only big bubbler) was the reason why I didn’t play it. It was bad, just that other weapons felt better to play because of their kits. Vblaster has auto bomb, which is good, it just need something, like crab, inkzooka, or maybe even wave breaker.
“Stop scissors at all costs” this was my exact mindset the whole splatfest!
Ay Ay Ay. (And what team were you on…?)
@@bigman6868 im sorry, i love you, youre amazing but shivers a queen
@@bigman6868 rock all day
@@bigman6868 I voted scissors at least.
@@catfloof ay (I’ll tell shiver that she has another one)
Honestly the fan base for each idol is so true. As being in team paper&Frye fan I think everyone agrees that we were happy just to be in the splatfest. And didn't expect to be in 2nd place after the results came out.
Trash can was lowkey the best weapon i played, i was winning around 80% of the games I played with it. if you run fast and use all the new mobility and high inking power to flank around and paint the ground behind the enemy team, it's a massive waste of time for them to chase you off, and your team gets a lot more space to pick them off along with hugely helping score in turf war. also totsugeki lets you suprise wipe all of them, which is very handy in tricolor and since it's the trash can, it charges very fast. still wont stop the people using it from perfect painting ant sized paint holes in your base I suppose. If you're not getting1200 points per match with it you're trash.
Fellow Guilty Gear enjoyer
Also yeah, aerospray actually has an offensive option now, pretty cool
Hell yeah, Trash cans for life, you underestimate our power. Put special charge up on all your equipment and then go collect some kills with your constant dolphin of doom.
Trash can supremacy!
Aerospray isn’t trash your just bad at the game lol, I like aerospray though
I used aerospray for practically all my tricolor battles. I found the fizzy bombs to ink tons of turf and snagging signals for paper was a breeze by waiting for an opportunity to shark kamikaze into the center.
I’m not crying! I just have a salt mine in my eyes!
In all seriousness good game everyone.
Despite tricolor frustrations as a Scissors enthusiast, it was incredibly fun.
Every content creator joined rock to bully little kids.... IT WAS GLORIOUS!
Nah I saw some join scissors
Failboat = little kid apparently?
But- fail army and big man-
Every one I watch joined scissors
i love bullying kids in tricolor
I feel like how Scott explained how each team was acting felt accurate because I was on paper and I really did not care if I won was just having fun
I was scissors and it definitely took me a long time to realize we could split up and get into the enemy spawn.
A combination of the map being reworked from one where that wasn't possible and the direct telling us specifically to guard the signal made it a pretty easy mistake imo. I'm also a little concerned by how insanely high the clout is for both winning teams when defender loses in tricolor.
Not because it screwed us over though (that was mostly the direct) but because I'm not sure how paper was realistically supposed to come back after the first half of splatfest.
I hope they'll balance that a little better in live, but over all. I think tricolor is a fun and challenging new mode that offers a lot to all three teams and I'm sorry if the greater scissors squad displayed a higher rate of toxicity than rock (not paper tho, I agree, they were all cinnamon rolls). As big man would say to them "ayyy!"
I'm gonna say this as a Rock person, but I think one of the ways you could design maps to most effectively use the Tricolor matchset is to slightly tweek the Spawners, mostly by changing the angle they're facing to emphasize "Ink the turf" portion for the Tricolors for the middle team. Or maybe less intuitively, allow shortcuts for the middle team to effectively reach the Ultra Signal, but not allow them to use the area as choke points (like using grates). However, I will admit I only had one true Tricolor experience, so I am definitely not enough to say what is this or what is that.
2:25 they aren’t weak it’s just that they are entirely new classes which naturally would come with a learning curve.
So far the tri stringer does area denial and chip damage and the splatana just combos it’s two swings along with their sub and specials for an inky slaughtering. (Made me feel like the storm that was approaching)
1:44 I believe it actually takes _longer_ for most weapons to charge their specials in 3, and this was a deliberately change from splatoon 2 where special spam was a major problem at higher levels of play
I chose Team Scissors and even I was sick of us by the end. Big Man deserves better.
same.
I'm glad you're not obsessed with him like the others. I've been constantly annoyed by seeing that bullcrap go on. Maybe that obsession will die down soon enough.
@@goldenninja9053 Hopefully yes.
I remember you playing with me, actually that was me with the splatana on the scoreboard at 2:15!
I was using the splatana from the start of the Splatfest, so I at least had some practice, but I get the pains of using the new weapons when scoring was the most important thing. Thanks for some good matches though, Scott. Enjoyed playing with you!
I do not associate with most scissors supporters. I only joined for big man, and I refuse to be toxic, because big man wouldn’t want that.
It was fun, and I’m glad that splatfests will be more neck-and-neck if the halftime is anything to go by. Plus there’s gonna be more splatfests down the road to do big man proud.
Tricolor matches are basically a catastrophe for whoever takes the early lead, the only way we (i was on scissors) won any matches was when i grouped up with my friends and we made a plan ahead of time.
I do heavily agree on the part about how the Splatfest teams got… a little aggressive online. I joined Scissors because I thought Big Man was funny and more importantly I wanted to play with friends. But it was the worst was going online and just seeing how chaotic and toxic it was, there was a fair bit of toxicity from both sides actually, and that doesn’t make me proud in the slightest. Really sucks that some people’s first impressions could be this.
I fully believe that people will quiet down a little more in the future though. Super excited from Splatoon 3, I hope to see you cover it more in the future!
I can only hope that most of the horrible people will be weeded out eventually, either through time or through most people who played not even actually wanting to spend the $60 on the game
I was on Team Scissors and though tricolor was extremely difficult, I still had so much fun. Can't wait to get the full game.
It's called the trash can because you need something to carry your garbage teammates in
You, sir, have made my day with that absurdly obscure Spider-Man puddle reference
I think it's really unfair though and tricolor matches for the defending team since there's no way to disable their ink thing so they essentially have a permanent 20 ink that there's nothing you can do about if they hit the thing once
If you're playing right, the defending team still has a decent map advantage. easy access to the large center and the sprinkler only covers one half of the attacking team's side
I was on team scissors and I think we kinda just suffered a skill issue, I’m definitely not best on defence and I assume most people are better at offence. Though I think that they could make the rockets be on a timer, it’ll probably get better as more people learn how to play a good defence
@Bloo Berri In the end I don't think the problem is that it's impossible to win as Defense
It's just really difficult and frustrating if you're a solo player
@@Ed-1749 I think more of the issue is that it was hard to get to the signal fast enough, and for some stupid reason dying while trying to cap it secretly decreased the capture time. Also everyone but siccors had a base and reefslider can break the map they picked.
Cool review. I hope the splatana can swing a bit faster personally, I kinda like the midrange slashes and they can be cool for comboing. But the normal swings just take years to kill.
"I wanted to be *THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING* but end up looking like *_the drizzle walking side by looking anxious_* "
The vertical slash is an insta kill up close an it charges in a second. I used the splatana all splatfest an by then end I was killing up to 5 people a match an 11 people tops in a match. It's a paintbrushes weapon an since I main paintbrush I found it really easy to ink turf an get kills.
I had a bit of a good time with close range but middle range puts the splatanna at its peak
I might just go back to maining the Aerospray out of spite now, it feels much more consistent like it did in Splatoon 1.
like 90% of that is that it has an offensive special geared towards quick team wipes now.
after this you have changed my veiws from big man supermecy to shiver supremcy
Team Scissors sacrificed themselves for the sake of the patch. Our defeat will make the game better for all players!
@Top Trunks you're welcome
And you know as well as I do that we can't control who complains about what on the internet. :o
4:46 as a paper fan i knew our chances were almost 0 but it was funny to bully the 90% of splatoon creators who chose scissors
Tricolor matches were some of the least fun I’ve ever had playing Splatoon if I’m being honest. Desperately hoping they get fixed soon.
It felt like it was team rock and paper going at eachothers throats whilst paper was just chilling back yelling "WORLDSTAR" the whole time
I love how when you go back to Splatoon 2 everyone said “Welcome Home, Cheater.”
I was literally SO thrilled when I saw the CC post in the plaza, and also hooray for another rock! 💕 Anyway, good takes, keep up the good work
Hope there’ll be a side of salt for the full game cuz this was great.
theres gonna be a LOT of salts for splatoon 3
@@ScottFalco as many salts as crying big man fans?
@@ScottFalco Can't wait for Clam Blitz
Saltoon 3
3:27 ultra instinct woomy
Personally I was on team scissors and playing the test run was really fun and the tri color battles were fine just feels like the ultra signal need maybe minor nerfs but I think it was more frustrating how unreliable teammates and inconsistent they were but team rock was better so I might switch over to that one when it comes out
Unfortunately that always happens with splatfests. Consistently, they've always been reverse popularity contests. Where the most popular pick loses for the most part. Since those teams have the highest % of lower ranked players and will on average lose more matches than win.
Tribattles just make the situation worse because the more popular team will often be the defending mid, and therefore lose more often because the odds are literally stacked against you. I had a blast playing, but man was it abundantly clear that I wasn't going to win that many matches as a scissors player.
@@PyraXadon Rock won the popularity, though. Though I guess maybe that's why Scissors won the first half, but if that's how it is, now we have a system that works on a reverse popularity scale for the first half and a regular popularity scale for the second half, which kind of just punishes your team for trying in the first 6 hours.
Each splatfest has different teams; they won't be redoing rock/paper/scissors.
Yea, if team scissors wasn't defending the Sprinkler then it was basically a lost for the team but then it also created this camping games where the team has to always be in the middle. Often at times I leave to push forward and then we would have lost the sprinkler. They could definitely change it up to make less centre focus.
@@Xane875 In short, splatfests are still not that balanced and might need more tweaking.
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"i guess paper was there too" as a member of team paper I can confirm we kinda just stood in the background while rock and scissors went after each other's throat
The splatfest was honestly really great and the specials felt well balanced for once. However I have to disagree that tricolour is balanced, during most of the event I was playing in vcs with friends and we bodied in almost every tricolour we got into. However during part of the fest I was playing completely alone and defence became a nightmare. The mode is balanced just fine if you can communicate with your team, outside of that you end up with approaches being completely missed leading to a flanker killing a team mate and causing an inevitable downward spiral. If they made ultra signal a temporary thing rather than, if the attackers get them both they just win, it might be a bit more fair. It's hard to say though, seems like the kinda thing that will have to get tweaked between fest quite often. Congrats on the win anyway.
As a rock player I think tricolor is balanced but... Sturgeon shipyard was not, it allowed attackers to hop into enemy's spawns and there was no real place for team scissors to hide as they were being attacked from all sides.
If the map was better (for instance a straight line where team scissors only worry's about the front and back and niether attacking team meets eachother until it reaches the middle) tricolor would have been balanced.
yeah i only ever won a single tricolor and it was by a percentage, maybe if there was a way to provide a tad bit more offense to the defender aside from gear loadouts it be a bit more enjoyable/reasonable? but as a comeback mechanic the way it stands now if one team gets two ultra signals its borderline impossible to win the match maybe if the signal lasted less.
@@thatonejester3387 yeah sturgeon was awful to experience
@@thatonejester3387 I disagree. Even with a better map, the game mode relies too much on communication (eg teammates guarding approaches) which isn't feasible for a defence team of randoms, no matter how well you play someone can easily flank and kill you from behind if your teammates aren't guarding well or at all. Like I said, if the ultra signal wasn't permanent, it would make the game far more balanced in solo queues. (also as a side note, this is the same reason clam blitz is such a hated mode, the game is fun and well designed for league games, but playing it in ranked is aneurism inducing as you sit through teammates who are in S+ and yet still don't know how to aim clams or why I'm spamming this way when the have a super and I'm sitting next to the basket)
I honestly wasn't a fan of the specials, but then again I wasn't a fan of the S2 specials either until I got used to them. Still, I'm bummed that there wasn't any defensive type special like bubbler or ink armor. I loved the n-zap because its special could also just be used as a free reload, but activating and tossing down the drink stand AND having to swim up to it in order to get any benefit from it took so long that that strategy was basically out the window. Same with the 6 mini stingray laser thingy's that take soooo long to home in on someone. I'm surprised everyone thinks S3 feels faster than S2, since it's the exact opposite for me
As a person on team scissors who won over half of their tricolours the amount of effort we had to put in to not get fucking destroyed was immense.
I don’t think the mode is well balanced because rock and paper could afford to make a few mistakes while with scissors you lost if you or your team made one.
I just hope they nerf the ultra signal slightly and make scissors not have an aids spawn next splatfest.
Big man is wholesome and pure justice, so I need to support him
There’s hope for the maps, I noticed some heavy sponge usage in the new maps.
Edit: Also setting up for friends was a BREEZE. Despite the fact we’d be DC’ed from each other due to various reasons, the process was incredibly fast letting us jump right in quickly even with minor tech issues. I also love seeing your friends muck about the training stage as holos. Also made it a lot more clear when you were re-queuing with the same people. I’m excited for the future of Splatoon, and feverishly await the full release so I can grind that X-rank again! This time maybe with friends :)
My experience with the testfire was seeing all the level 4 people in the plaza, trying to join a match, not being able to, then a week later learning it was for only one day.
as someone who was on team scissors, I would like to formally apologize for the behavior of my team post-splatfest.
I will also apologize. I have my issues, but rock won, so congrats to them.
first good scunt
Yeah people are being salty, I think tri-colour was a bit too lopsided but I doubt we were gonna win either way because I saw way more rock fans than scissors fans.
as a rock member I will formally accept ur apology. tho u were not the ones being salty, and being a sour puss. So you have my respect and the title as giga chads. also team paper I apologize for our teams behavior too. In all good game for all
@Bloo Berri
I'm actually open to Fyre's whole 5Head situation attraction wise, I've enjoyed some nice art of her but yeah there's no denying that Shiver is by far the most conventionally attractive of the 3, and the simp wars are certainly a thing with this series.
5:23 I can say that for all three. Rock was exactly the same as scissors , and paper...their calm about the actual competition but wine alot about people not likeing Frye that as a person who sorta likes Frye kinda wishes the character was used for something else. I've seen people obsessed with characters but this is the first time I've seen them demand others to love their favorite and not get called out on it.
Yeah, seeing the weird Big Man obsession has me feeling worried for how the fanbase will be going into Splatoon 3. Also, I honestly haven't seen that same weird behavior for team rock, other than people automatically calling Shiver "nonbinary" because they're so desperate for some stupid representation.
Agreed, as a Frye fan I hate how all I see of her from both haters and fans is the constant reducement of "haha big forehead" either positively or negatively from respected sides. Obviously, not everyone is like that, but the loudest is going to be the most seen. It feels like all of Deep Cut have been reduced to one single attribute and if you don't like that then "DNI, you're wrong IDIOT". With Shiver it's the whole "they are nonbinary and if you don't agree you're WRONG and PROBLEMATIC", with Big Man it's... honestly I'm not sure, I think it's his different design and name, people took that and became obsessed to a worrying degree, and Frye is "Big forehead". It's just kind of a shame because they're all good designs and characters but the demand for "inclusion" where it's not needed, scary stan behaviour and general shallowness is blocking all of the beauty out like a giant stain you can't wash out. I'm really in love with these characters and this game but these future splatfests are worrying me.
@@goldenninja9053 cope
I'd like to add that if you played as Paper or Rock to make certain that Scissors didn't win, you should probably reevaluate who is the toxic one.
I went with scissors because big man had the nicest model out of the three (imo) but am disappointed in the community that formed from it
I may have been team rock but I was rooting for everyone. I didn't care who won I was just there for fun. I fought hard for team rock sure. But I woulda been just fine if paper or scissors won.
Honestly Rock are also really toxic winners, the only team that is actually decent is paper.
@@wintersong2266 As rock player. I apologize on behalf of my team. We're not all toxic. ... But I do absolutely agree with you. Paper was pretty chill. Except on the battlefield. Every time I fought paper they were MONSTERS! Absolutely destroyed me every time. Even when it was just 2 in tri color. I spent a lot of that trying to figure out why we're bothering to fight each other as well as scissors.
But you do get more clout for your team if you get the thing in the middle. But the defending team definitely needs some sort of boost to make it even possible once the ultra signals have been snagged. Maybe a way to shut em down? Or a longer battle time? A boost to their ink tank idk SOMETHING. Cause if it continues like this. People aren't gonna want to win early on out of fear of becoming the defending team.
It’s quite dumbfounding how defensive some people get over ROCKS PAPERS AND SCISSORS in a videogame
Honestly I think Rock looks the best and of the girls is pretty likely to be the new 'most people pick this one regardless of actual preference' but scissors looks pretty good and can maybe break up that dynamic.....meanwhile Paper looks like a abomination to me. If I can ever play the game maybe they'll turn me around on choices but....yeah.
If Nintendo didn't want us lusting after their characters then they shouldn't make them so sexy 🤷
2:38 the splatanna is awesome but only with the practice and knowing how to properly use it, I’m a splatanna main so lmao
2:33 I understood that reference
Now I'm motivated!
The connection errors are the true enemies to team scissors and rock.😺
Man picking scissors was aaawful. I did so cause most of my friends were on it, and I did pretty well I think, but lordy almighty were tricolor matches abysmal to deal with, especially with random people. The best part of it was the experience and getting to play for hours with my buds though, so I can't complain!
I never played a single Splatfest in Splatoon or Splatoon 2, I luckily played the Splatoon 3 one and I had fun the whole time I played the event even though I lose a bit of matches
0:06 splatty goodness 💀
Haven’t really used the aero spray since the original Splatoon, but I remember it being absolutely nuts back then - especially the one with the mines sub-weapon.
i dominate with the aero spray lol. always used it in 2, and it still serves in 3-slightly less so, but still pretty good
0:40 : THAT WAS YOU?!
Seems like you really enjoy making content again, and we as fans are happy you do! Love your content as always!
I got 13 kills with an areospray. It's called the trash can cause I'm carrying all my trash teammates.
Thumbnail art was great
Friggin' love seeing you do splatoon content and having something this fresh and interesting is going to be fun to watch you have fun with! Hope to tune in and join a few customs sometime, love this game. Love your content!
That forehead tho it's so much ridiculous than Pearls lmao
you say that like its a bad thing
As a representative of Scissors, I do not approve of those asking Rock and Paper to throw matches.
Bro tricolor was so unfair for RED
As one of the rare civil scissors supporters, we may disagree on what is best in Rock Paper Scissors but if we set aside our differences… Arospray is trash
Splatoon 3 test shiver.
0:18
"Paper was there 2 I guess''
But... they got second place :(
That was so great, you may have just got me into splatoon so thank you for that wonderful video
That’s awesome! I hope that if you play the full game you have lots of fun!
The jabs at team scissors were funny at first but the harder it got to tell if it was hyperbole the more it started to feel like i was in a cod lobby without the slurs.
All the animations in you're newer stuff look clean as hell! keep it up!