STI with new pistons and Crank doing 370hp @7k to the rear wheels with a Torsen and separate 50hp electric FWD would be competitive above 50k usd. A higher price flagship doesn't negatively effect enthusiasts who would be happy with base models at $35gs. If anything it makes us want to spend more money if we can afford it. Personally I wouldn't buy it. The base model VB is plenty good enough on performance, price and fuel economy... BUT obviously I want them to make it!!! What a time to be alive!!!
The fa24 is very capable, especially for a flat 4. All they need is the sti drivetrain to support it. It would be very cool if they make the fuel system both di and port
I own a 2013 WRX STi with EJ257 engine. I definitely want STi to comeback. Electric engine is an absolute no no. Hybrid is okay. I can imagine a 320 horsepower 2.4L with an electrified turbocharger (like in the newest AMG engines), plus a small electric motor with 80-100 horsepower. Not too large battery, the electric motor is just to increase acceleration and a small help to improve gas mileage a little bit.
this, many of my fellow VB owners keep talking about the FA24 being so good but not realize that only helps with straight line, the handling in VB WRX is still open front diff and open rear diff from Forester. We need STI back with it's front LSD, center DCCD diff, and rear LSD, to compete against GR Corolla and Civic Type R.
Likely a hybrid turbo……which is what they said initially in ‘22 - the next STI would be electrified. Electrified doesn’t mean only EV, but could that definition includes the hybrid concept. The price will be nuts.
I miss the rumble. It would be good to hear it again on the streets. I had a 2018 WRX STI and loved it. Before that one, I had a 2015 WRX. In comparison, the WRX with the twin-scroll was a Camry. I might buy one. I miss that analog experience and the great sound. I don't care that much for the speed. Heavy fast cars with automatic gearboxes are everywhere. Plus, in 2018 the price for the STI was very reasonable, unless you wanted to buy the type RA.
I currently own a Type R and I must say I’ve always admired the sti and would love to own one someday. If that is the case where the sti makes a return and it is at that 400hp mark or even 380 ish with the reliability of the VB and tuning potential I think I’ll be making the switch but with that being said for us to get to that point of power there would most likely be some sort of electrification involved which I am curious to see how it would work out. Fingers crossed
Hate me, but I hope they release it also in Automatic transmission too (SPT or DCT, i hope). The latest GR Corolla/Yaris with the A/T option are performing great and selling very well.
I drove this VB and checked the car out thoroughly and multiple times in past few years. This car was engineered to be made into STi to begin with, and it's really infuriating that Subaru isn't giving STi treatment on this car whatsoever under the excuse of electrification. If they offered STi on this new gen, the sales figures won't suffer as much as they are reported right now. It would be a serious contender against the type Rs, Hyundai Ns, and would retain it's popularity and lineage. With VB being an excellent car to begin with, people would've had less aversion to the hybridization nor electrification of the STi and ensured its continued interests to a certain degree. For a boxer engine hybridization, Porsche recently showed off a very interesting tech, by placing motor/generator within their PDK. I damn well know Subaru can't pull that off, but their hybridization would've been more successful if they decided to electrify their Symmetrical All Wheel Drive system instead. I simply don't understand why would such a conservative company like Subaru would choose to go completely nonsensical direction than strengthening their well known strengths to begin with? The only way Subaru to unscrew their ensured future failure, is to give us the VB STi right now as the car was intended to begin with.
About damned time WRX STi came back. It’d be cool if it did something different though at the new price point like a mild hybrid with an electric turbo and brake regen perhaps for performance and mpg?
I've always guessed it was going to be a rebrand of the STI instead of a discontinuation. Similar to what they did when they split the WRX from Impreza, I think they will do the same with STI from WRX and we will see a 2028 Subaru STI for $60K +
Okay hear me out...Yamaha is owned by Toyota and Toyota owns a part of Subaru so what if STI would ask help from Yamaha to tune the valvetrain of the FA24DIT?
Where are you getting these prices from? I just bought a 2024 Civic Type R for $42,500. My neighbor has a 2023 WRX GT that he got for 41K. No one is paying over 46K for either of those care.
@@cajunotaku3256 Go to any Honda dealer in the Boston area and you’re spending well over sticker for the Type R. Seen everything from $5k - $20k over sticker for them and I’m speaking as someone who works with Honda dealers as part of my career. The GT for 2024 has an MSRP of $44,215. It’s likely with Subaru you’ll get a deal below sticker.
Its not smoke. The New 2026 Outback is pretty fire. Can't wait for everyone to see it. When it drops, I hope this will spark some confidence in the New Upcoming STI. Imagine a Kia Telluride and a Toyota Land Cruiser having a Baby, Yes you heard that right, More SUV than Wagon. Yes Yes we get our Buttons back relax. The STI? Perhaps.... a Certain 8speed from Toyota... will be... sldijrghvnoav Getting ahead of myself here
How the New Outback can be like the son of a Telluride and Land Cruiser? Subaru offers the Ascent as the "big boy" or you mean by the looks but with the size of an Outback?
@@subazealand9158 Its honestly really interesting. Because the Legacy is no longer tied to the parts manufacturing of the Outback, Subaru went ahead and completely made it its own Vehicle. Its not that huge, but it is certainly more of a SUV than a wagon. You'll see what I mean. It also retains differentiation from the New Forester so no worries there. Rear lamps remind me of something you would find on a Lexus/Toyota.
@subazealand9158 Well see that's the kicker, in the Next 8-10years they're trying do like 10 new updates/releases. That's a lot of cars. 3 of which are partnered with Toyota. The underlying body language will remain, the new Outback is definitely still an Outback, just kinda lifted looking with more SUV shape. You'll still see the XT/non XT trims, etc. Down the road, a hybrid will show up on the Outback line (a trim). New Forester wilderness I think should be on the release horizon. The new Ascent pricing for 2025 released today. They have some special "Bronze" Trim added with big ass wheels, that I don't really think is that special but that's what's new with that.
No the real question is if I go over the speed limit and then a month later my car breaks down will the insurance company contact my dealership and say I went over a speed limit therefore they won't fix my car? 😅
Remember RTV in GR86 also denied due to track use (although they reversed the decision later). Toyota voids your warranty like no other. But for Subies we voiding our own warrenties 😂
The GR might be ending production due to the 2026 Corolla redesign coming along soon. Once the GR is gone Subaru might have the green light from Toyota to produce the STI.
Toyota has no stake in the WRX nor the STI. All the years when the STI was around, Toyota never had any input or say on how the STI got built because Toyota was too busy being a home appliance of the automotive industry. The WRX STI was 100% Subaru built with the STI Divisions hands on all the upgrades and factory modifications to the car. Toyota's stake was only invested in Subaru because of the BRZ and GR86 twins and the Solterra and bz4x twins. That's it. Subaru not building an STI has nothing to do with Toyota putting the GR Corolla out on the market. The GR Corolla is 100% Toyota built by the GR Division with no involvement from Subaru, just like the WRX STI at the time was 100% Subaru built with STI Division with no involvement from Toyota long before there was ever a GR anything for the North American market.
If Toyota let Subaru adapt their Direct AT with Subaru's symetrical AWD, that would definitely get more sales. I'd love to drive a WRX STI with the DAT making 400+hp (and LSDs on both ends). Manuals are great but where I live it wouldn't be practical for me.
@Ravequiem Please Subaru don't do this! Keep manuals alive. If you want an nice automatic vehicle, the market is already flooded with them. You have plenty of choices.
I call BS. If Subaru wanted to do something with the STI, it would have and should have come out last calendar year. I don't understand why people think that Toyota's 20% stake in Subaru has anything to do with Subaru not building an STI. It doesn't. That 20% stake only had to do with the BRZ and GR86 twins and the Solterra and bz4X twins. Subaru not building an STI because Toyota built GR Corollas has nothing to do with the STI not existing. The GR Corolla is 100% Toyota owned and Toyota built. The WRX STI is 100% Subaru owned and Subaru built, so there was always plenty of room for the WRX STI to exist alongside the GR Corolla, Elantra N, Civic Type R, and Integra Type S. Subaru had 0 reason to cancel it, and the WRX STI did not need to be cancelled to begin with. Let's say for argument sake that this was happening. Subaru would probably only realize this now because they know the tS is DOA and they have nothing else to fall back on because their fans, current owners, and potential buyers at the time before the abrupt cancellation warned Subaru and Subaru should be tired of getting backlash for dismantling the STI Division from doing what they do best.
idk if it's going to happen but I hope it does happen. actually I hope they put them out there with ample supply so there's discounts to be have and flood the market. the timing is VERY weird for them between the TR, TS, and now this rumored STI
For me the future STI has to feature three things for me to be interested. It’s gotta be leaps and bounds faster than the VB, still retain a manual transmission(not possible if it’s electric), and it has to be better in fuel economy than the VB. If that means it’s hybrid then that’s fine. But those are my terms haha then I’ll make the ultimate decision based on the price
I'll believe it when I see it and when I officially hear it or read it from Subaru themselves with Subaru apologizing to their STI community base for a shortsighted decision wrongfully and when there are actual pictures of it officially happening.
I doubt anyone would buy an EV STi.. nobody wants that EV garbage. Turbo/hybrid, maybe. An EV STi would be sacrilege to the brand. Imagine a 22B STi comeback with an H6 turbo! 😍
@@Gregsheppo66 it means more power, Brembo brakes and the true STI drivetrain which can handle a lot more power and has front and rear lsd's. Nowhere in the world has that on the VB. They just have an appearance package with an STI badge.
@@Gregsheppo66 all Subaru really needs to do in the US market to give the enthusiast the STI they want is take the TR trim, add the STI drivetrain and tune it for 50hp more. Done!
also the STI was about handling, my fellow VB owners keep talking about FA24 making power but that only helps straight line drag racing, VB still runs open front diff and open rear diff from Forester. We need the STI with the front LSD, center DCCD diff, and rear LSD to compete against the GR Corolla and Civic Type R.
@@zombielivesmatter7294I’m still on stock suspension and have no power mods. I’ve been able to run with a VA STi and GRC on a track, stock for stock (ish). Type R on the other hand is a vastly superior handling car. But my point is the VB chassis is so good that it nearly makes up for the lack of DCCD.
@@antoinelee-thomas9536 making something more reliable isn't the same as making something more reliable doing twice the work it's rated for. VB WRX has an upgraded transmission from VA, but you're still probably going to need an STI swap, or some kind of extremely expensive custom job, to handle power reliably past 400 TRQ. 380/380 is where I'm stopping for at least five years, or until the transmission shits the bed, after which I'm doing an STI swap. I plan on keeping this car until combustion engines are prohibited, might design a hybridization kit or swap full EV at that point.
first clickbait... second, toyota only owns 16% of FHI, therefore they dont have a decision making stake in the company. I will say it again for those in the back: TOYOTA DOESNT MAKE DECISIONS FOR SUBARU.. stop spreading this information. Subaru already said it was coming back, they placed it on hold. They never discontinued it.
First speculation. Second that 16% is rather significant, as Subaru has two vehicles in their lineup built on Toyota platforms and will be utilizing Toyota tech for their new hybrid motors. I never said they were making decisions for them, but let’s be real, both Mazda and Subaru are benefiting from Toyota’s stake in the companies. Hate to break it to you, they haven’t formally announced the STi is coming back. That’s actually spreading fake information, and up to this point it has been discontinued. The project was canned due to impending regulations. Until they make a real announcement with a press release it’s only speculation.
Toyota's stake is only in the BRZ and GR86 twins and the Solterra and bz4x twins. That's it. Toyota has no say in Subaru not building a WRX STI, just like Subaru has no say in Toyota not building a GR Corolla. Long before Toyota even brought anything GR related to North America, this was the WRX STI vs Lancer Evo wars and even long after the Lancer Evo has been gone for almost 10 years now come next year, the STI dominated before the FK8 Civic Type R came along as well as when the Focus RS was on the way out from its production. Anyway, Toyota is in no position to tell Subaru that Subaru can not build a WRX STI because the WRX STI is 100% Subaru built and Subaru owned by the hands of the STI Division. No one hears Subaru telling Toyota they aren't allowed to build any GR Corollas because the GR Corolla is 100% Toyota built and Toyota owned by the hands of the GR Division. The WRX STI (on the VB gen platform; if it were to ever exist, which I don't think it will because who trusts anything Motor Trend's Californian automotive golden boy journalist, Jonny Liebermann) would be able to coexist alongside cars like the Elantra N even when the Elantra N is getting ready to get its next generation car soon, the MK8.5 Golf R, GR Corolla, FL5 Civic Type R, and DE5 Integra Type S.
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STI with new pistons and Crank doing 370hp @7k to the rear wheels with a Torsen and separate 50hp electric FWD would be competitive above 50k usd. A higher price flagship doesn't negatively effect enthusiasts who would be happy with base models at $35gs. If anything it makes us want to spend more money if we can afford it. Personally I wouldn't buy it. The base model VB is plenty good enough on performance, price and fuel economy... BUT obviously I want them to make it!!! What a time to be alive!!!
The fa24 is very capable, especially for a flat 4. All they need is the sti drivetrain to support it. It would be very cool if they make the fuel system both di and port
yes! the pieces are literally all there already.
Subaru just needs to launch a 450hp sti!!
I own a 2013 WRX STi with EJ257 engine. I definitely want STi to comeback. Electric engine is an absolute no no. Hybrid is okay. I can imagine a 320 horsepower 2.4L with an electrified turbocharger (like in the newest AMG engines), plus a small electric motor with 80-100 horsepower. Not too large battery, the electric motor is just to increase acceleration and a small help to improve gas mileage a little bit.
That sti is the missing car in the compact sport car segment….! Bring it back ASAP
this, many of my fellow VB owners keep talking about the FA24 being so good but not realize that only helps with straight line, the handling in VB WRX is still open front diff and open rear diff from Forester. We need STI back with it's front LSD, center DCCD diff, and rear LSD, to compete against GR Corolla and Civic Type R.
Compact? These cars are so big now. The new wrx is too big, it's like a midsize from 10 years ago.
No, the politicians and laws won't allow
@@barsaf9989 you can't use the old standards to measure today's cars
Likely a hybrid turbo……which is what they said initially in ‘22 - the next STI would be electrified. Electrified doesn’t mean only EV, but could that definition includes the hybrid concept. The price will be nuts.
I’d be ok with that.
@@Bosn1ac There will be now manual if that's the case. No thanks!
Hard to modify as well
That’s what I would like to see as well turbo boxer hybrid. Toyota Corolla XSE hybrid is the blueprint to follow.
GT trim should be its own model AND as a hybrid and let the STI stay gas powered
Doesn’t help that social media overhypes every new car coming out, then dealers have more excuses to mark up the price ridiculously.
I miss the rumble. It would be good to hear it again on the streets. I had a 2018 WRX STI and loved it. Before that one, I had a 2015 WRX. In comparison, the WRX with the twin-scroll was a Camry.
I might buy one. I miss that analog experience and the great sound. I don't care that much for the speed. Heavy fast cars with automatic gearboxes are everywhere. Plus, in 2018 the price for the STI was very reasonable, unless you wanted to buy the type RA.
Knowing subaru, if they do bring back the sti...it'll be 350 hp ÷- 5 hp
I currently own a Type R and I must say I’ve always admired the sti and would love to own one someday. If that is the case where the sti makes a return and it is at that 400hp mark or even 380 ish with the reliability of the VB and tuning potential I think I’ll be making the switch but with that being said for us to get to that point of power there would most likely be some sort of electrification involved which I am curious to see how it would work out. Fingers crossed
Shouldnt be for a new gen should be a tribute to all of us that have stood by there bullshit as of late and to there roots
Yes. Please bring the sti back and join the wrc
Had a 15 va buying the sti if it comes out let’s go
Hate me, but I hope they release it also in Automatic transmission too (SPT or DCT, i hope). The latest GR Corolla/Yaris with the A/T option are performing great and selling very well.
As long as they revamp the look I'd be in. I just can't stand how the VB looks.
I drove this VB and checked the car out thoroughly and multiple times in past few years. This car was engineered to be made into STi to begin with, and it's really infuriating that Subaru isn't giving STi treatment on this car whatsoever under the excuse of electrification. If they offered STi on this new gen, the sales figures won't suffer as much as they are reported right now.
It would be a serious contender against the type Rs, Hyundai Ns, and would retain it's popularity and lineage. With VB being an excellent car to begin with, people would've had less aversion to the hybridization nor electrification of the STi and ensured its continued interests to a certain degree.
For a boxer engine hybridization, Porsche recently showed off a very interesting tech, by placing motor/generator within their PDK. I damn well know Subaru can't pull that off, but their hybridization would've been more successful if they decided to electrify their Symmetrical All Wheel Drive system instead. I simply don't understand why would such a conservative company like Subaru would choose to go completely nonsensical direction than strengthening their well known strengths to begin with?
The only way Subaru to unscrew their ensured future failure, is to give us the VB STi right now as the car was intended to begin with.
@preventer333 Sales of the wrx took a big dip in 2019! And have remained flat every since. It had nothing to do with the VB.
About damned time WRX STi came back. It’d be cool if it did something different though at the new price point like a mild hybrid with an electric turbo and brake regen perhaps for performance and mpg?
I've always guessed it was going to be a rebrand of the STI instead of a discontinuation. Similar to what they did when they split the WRX from Impreza, I think they will do the same with STI from WRX and we will see a 2028 Subaru STI for $60K +
Okay hear me out...Yamaha is owned by Toyota and Toyota owns a part of Subaru so what if STI would ask help from Yamaha to tune the valvetrain of the FA24DIT?
I don't think so with the market being in such a fragile state. investors are going to play it safe.
Where are you getting these prices from? I just bought a 2024 Civic Type R for $42,500. My neighbor has a 2023 WRX GT that he got for 41K. No one is paying over 46K for either of those care.
@@cajunotaku3256 Go to any Honda dealer in the Boston area and you’re spending well over sticker for the Type R. Seen everything from $5k - $20k over sticker for them and I’m speaking as someone who works with Honda dealers as part of my career. The GT for 2024 has an MSRP of $44,215. It’s likely with Subaru you’ll get a deal below sticker.
Its not smoke. The New 2026 Outback is pretty fire. Can't wait for everyone to see it. When it drops, I hope this will spark some confidence in the New Upcoming STI. Imagine a Kia Telluride and a Toyota Land Cruiser having a Baby, Yes you heard that right, More SUV than Wagon. Yes Yes we get our Buttons back relax.
The STI? Perhaps.... a Certain 8speed from Toyota... will be... sldijrghvnoav Getting ahead of myself here
How the New Outback can be like the son of a Telluride and Land Cruiser? Subaru offers the Ascent as the "big boy" or you mean by the looks but with the size of an Outback?
@@subazealand9158 Its honestly really interesting. Because the Legacy is no longer tied to the parts manufacturing of the Outback, Subaru went ahead and completely made it its own Vehicle. Its not that huge, but it is certainly more of a SUV than a wagon. You'll see what I mean. It also retains differentiation from the New Forester so no worries there. Rear lamps remind me of something you would find on a Lexus/Toyota.
@@SansooIan interesting. So do you think Subaru won't keep some body language in their lineup?
@subazealand9158 Well see that's the kicker, in the Next 8-10years they're trying do like 10 new updates/releases. That's a lot of cars. 3 of which are partnered with Toyota. The underlying body language will remain, the new Outback is definitely still an Outback, just kinda lifted looking with more SUV shape. You'll still see the XT/non XT trims, etc. Down the road, a hybrid will show up on the Outback line (a trim). New Forester wilderness I think should be on the release horizon. The new Ascent pricing for 2025 released today. They have some special "Bronze" Trim added with big ass wheels, that I don't really think is that special but that's what's new with that.
New STI if it even happens, should be FA34 like the H6 but updated... now thats a fast car there
The perfect STI specs: at least 350hp FA24 turbo, Hatchback, Available with a DCT (not CVT). The GR and FL5 would be in trouble.
I wonder if it will have a limited slip differential?
No the real question is if I go over the speed limit and then a month later my car breaks down will the insurance company contact my dealership and say I went over a speed limit therefore they won't fix my car? 😅
Remember RTV in GR86 also denied due to track use (although they reversed the decision later). Toyota voids your warranty like no other. But for Subies we voiding our own warrenties 😂
@@orochicc002 🤣crazy times
😂😂😂😂
That looks so much better than those black plastic looking fenders
Will it have a lsd or open diff
They should’ve not discontinued in the first place. 😂😂😂
The GR might be ending production due to the 2026 Corolla redesign coming along soon. Once the GR is gone Subaru might have the green light from Toyota to produce the STI.
Toyota has no stake in the WRX nor the STI. All the years when the STI was around, Toyota never had any input or say on how the STI got built because Toyota was too busy being a home appliance of the automotive industry. The WRX STI was 100% Subaru built with the STI Divisions hands on all the upgrades and factory modifications to the car.
Toyota's stake was only invested in Subaru because of the BRZ and GR86 twins and the Solterra and bz4x twins. That's it. Subaru not building an STI has nothing to do with Toyota putting the GR Corolla out on the market. The GR Corolla is 100% Toyota built by the GR Division with no involvement from Subaru, just like the WRX STI at the time was 100% Subaru built with STI Division with no involvement from Toyota long before there was ever a GR anything for the North American market.
@N1Filter Toyota just owns shares in Subaru. They have no control in Subaru's decisions. Subaru also owns shares in Toyota.
@@steve8803 Yes, so if Toyota decides that it is better to not have competing cars, they will use their shares to vote against.
If Toyota let Subaru adapt their Direct AT with Subaru's symetrical AWD, that would definitely get more sales. I'd love to drive a WRX STI with the DAT making 400+hp (and LSDs on both ends). Manuals are great but where I live it wouldn't be practical for me.
@Ravequiem Please Subaru don't do this! Keep manuals alive. If you want an nice automatic vehicle, the market is already flooded with them. You have plenty of choices.
My order deposit is ready.
I call BS. If Subaru wanted to do something with the STI, it would have and should have come out last calendar year.
I don't understand why people think that Toyota's 20% stake in Subaru has anything to do with Subaru not building an STI. It doesn't. That 20% stake only had to do with the BRZ and GR86 twins and the Solterra and bz4X twins.
Subaru not building an STI because Toyota built GR Corollas has nothing to do with the STI not existing. The GR Corolla is 100% Toyota owned and Toyota built. The WRX STI is 100% Subaru owned and Subaru built, so there was always plenty of room for the WRX STI to exist alongside the GR Corolla, Elantra N, Civic Type R, and Integra Type S. Subaru had 0 reason to cancel it, and the WRX STI did not need to be cancelled to begin with.
Let's say for argument sake that this was happening. Subaru would probably only realize this now because they know the tS is DOA and they have nothing else to fall back on because their fans, current owners, and potential buyers at the time before the abrupt cancellation warned Subaru and Subaru should be tired of getting backlash for dismantling the STI Division from doing what they do best.
If they make a nice evolution of the last hatchback sti and ditch the cladding, they'll have my money instantly.
idk if it's going to happen but I hope it does happen. actually I hope they put them out there with ample supply so there's discounts to be have and flood the market. the timing is VERY weird for them between the TR, TS, and now this rumored STI
I like the TS would replace GT/& TR then Sti (Base/Prem/TS/STI)
Well technically where there's smoke there is fire
Engine can handle it - but can the transmission
For me the future STI has to feature three things for me to be interested. It’s gotta be leaps and bounds faster than the VB, still retain a manual transmission(not possible if it’s electric), and it has to be better in fuel economy than the VB. If that means it’s hybrid then that’s fine. But those are my terms haha then I’ll make the ultimate decision based on the price
All possible but it will be significantly more expensive.
@xXpapercutsXx the sti has never been leaps and bounds faster than the wrx. And if it is a hybrid, it won't have a manual.
@@steve8803 I’m just saying that’s what it has to look like for me breh. If it doesn’t tick those boxes for me then I’m not interested
@@xXpapercutsXx sucks for you sis.
@@steve8803 have a great day pumpkin 👍🏻
Maybe they cancel the TS and just bring the STI instead ?
We can only pray...
I just need whatever it is to remain a manual
If they are…then I’ll trade my WRX 23 for it 😅
I'll believe it when I see it and when I officially hear it or read it from Subaru themselves with Subaru apologizing to their STI community base for a shortsighted decision wrongfully and when there are actual pictures of it officially happening.
Please GOD! PLEASE!
Hopefully they can build a car better than the evo… still waiting lol😂
Nobody wants a hybrid
Agree. One reason the hybrid NSX that was overpriced did not sell well.
I still can't stand the Civic-looking back end on this gen.
I don't want to hear the word hybrid when mentioning the STI. Travesty. Just give me some E85 and rumble 😅
Yea a hybrid STi equipped with Toyota technology lol
405 hp? I call bull
400馬力はたぶん無理だと思います
良くて340馬力がせいぜいでしょう
I doubt anyone would buy an EV STi.. nobody wants that EV garbage. Turbo/hybrid, maybe. An EV STi would be sacrilege to the brand. Imagine a 22B STi comeback with an H6 turbo! 😍
Everyone keeps forgetting that an STI for this gen already exists in other markets lol
You mean the TS?
That’s “tuned” by “STi”.
Electronic dampers & STi illuminated on the cluster & printed on the steering wheel. Not much of an STi.
@arealglitterb0y no, it doesn't.
@@steve8803so what does it mean genius?
@@Gregsheppo66 it means more power, Brembo brakes and the true STI drivetrain which can handle a lot more power and has front and rear lsd's. Nowhere in the world has that on the VB. They just have an appearance package with an STI badge.
@@Gregsheppo66 all Subaru really needs to do in the US market to give the enthusiast the STI they want is take the TR trim, add the STI drivetrain and tune it for 50hp more. Done!
Subaru was willing to be pc and go electric lmao now im definitely not buying the STi (vb owner building his own version of it)
wont happen. simply put
😂 not happing
The VB transmission cant handle the power, the FA24 can and is.
also the STI was about handling, my fellow VB owners keep talking about FA24 making power but that only helps straight line drag racing, VB still runs open front diff and open rear diff from Forester. We need the STI with the front LSD, center DCCD diff, and rear LSD to compete against the GR Corolla and Civic Type R.
@@zombielivesmatter7294 I quite literally only mentioned power. I don't care what your opinions are concerning handling either way. 😂
@@zombielivesmatter7294I’m still on stock suspension and have no power mods. I’ve been able to run with a VA STi and GRC on a track, stock for stock (ish). Type R on the other hand is a vastly superior handling car. But my point is the VB chassis is so good that it nearly makes up for the lack of DCCD.
Anything can handle something with the right tweaks and modifications to strengthen the transmission's use.
@@antoinelee-thomas9536 making something more reliable isn't the same as making something more reliable doing twice the work it's rated for. VB WRX has an upgraded transmission from VA, but you're still probably going to need an STI swap, or some kind of extremely expensive custom job, to handle power reliably past 400 TRQ. 380/380 is where I'm stopping for at least five years, or until the transmission shits the bed, after which I'm doing an STI swap. I plan on keeping this car until combustion engines are prohibited, might design a hybridization kit or swap full EV at that point.
Not going to happen
first clickbait... second, toyota only owns 16% of FHI, therefore they dont have a decision making stake in the company. I will say it again for those in the back: TOYOTA DOESNT MAKE DECISIONS FOR SUBARU.. stop spreading this information. Subaru already said it was coming back, they placed it on hold. They never discontinued it.
First speculation. Second that 16% is rather significant, as Subaru has two vehicles in their lineup built on Toyota platforms and will be utilizing Toyota tech for their new hybrid motors. I never said they were making decisions for them, but let’s be real, both Mazda and Subaru are benefiting from Toyota’s stake in the companies.
Hate to break it to you, they haven’t formally announced the STi is coming back. That’s actually spreading fake information, and up to this point it has been discontinued. The project was canned due to impending regulations. Until they make a real announcement with a press release it’s only speculation.
Toyota's stake is only in the BRZ and GR86 twins and the Solterra and bz4x twins. That's it.
Toyota has no say in Subaru not building a WRX STI, just like Subaru has no say in Toyota not building a GR Corolla. Long before Toyota even brought anything GR related to North America, this was the WRX STI vs Lancer Evo wars and even long after the Lancer Evo has been gone for almost 10 years now come next year, the STI dominated before the FK8 Civic Type R came along as well as when the Focus RS was on the way out from its production.
Anyway, Toyota is in no position to tell Subaru that Subaru can not build a WRX STI because the WRX STI is 100% Subaru built and Subaru owned by the hands of the STI Division. No one hears Subaru telling Toyota they aren't allowed to build any GR Corollas because the GR Corolla is 100% Toyota built and Toyota owned by the hands of the GR Division.
The WRX STI (on the VB gen platform; if it were to ever exist, which I don't think it will because who trusts anything Motor Trend's Californian automotive golden boy journalist, Jonny Liebermann) would be able to coexist alongside cars like the Elantra N even when the Elantra N is getting ready to get its next generation car soon, the MK8.5 Golf R, GR Corolla, FL5 Civic Type R, and DE5 Integra Type S.
@@mike_cerra While they have collaborated on vehicles, Toyota just owns Subaru shares. It is not a controlling stake. Subaru also owns Toyota shares.
VABも当初は発売キャンセルする予定でしたがトヨタから作れと言われて発売されたと聞いています
VBのSTIがキャンセルされた理由はCAFE規制の問題です
THSがフォレスターとクロストレックに搭載される予定なのでCAFE規制がクリア出来る目処が立ったのではないでしょうか