As an avid camper/backpacker/hiker/mountain biker/kayaker who does so with an awd cadillac ats, I can confidently say that the standard crosstrek would be all the offroad capability I would ever need to enjoy my hobbies. As it stands, the ats has never failed to get me to where I need to go, but there have been times where the gravel roads would get very bad and I'd have to pick my line very carefully to make it through. I'd be that guy who gets to the trailhead and turns heads because every other vehicle there is a truck or "off roader" suv, then I roll up in my caddy lol. The reason I don't bother getting something more capable is because even though I get out for an adventure every single month, 95% of my time is still spent on road. Fuel efficieny, comfort, and on road performance still far outweigh my need to sacrifice those things for really nothing more than peace of mind when the road occasionaly gets rough. And for reference, I live in michigan and still go winter camping in the up and to the remote areas of our beautiful state, so dont assume that the only reason my awd sedan can do those things is because i live somewhere like florida lol. Tldr; the standard crosstrek is all the capability most people would ever need, even if they live an active outdoors lifestyle.
My dealer gave me a Crosstrek Wilderness while my wife’s Ascent is getting serviced. I was truly surprised how comfortable, quiet, and solid this car is.
Ryan, Thanks for pushing the Crosstrek Wilderness through this trail. Since the first time I saw the preproduction car, I wanted to figure out how to reduce the lower lip. You have just proven to me that in needs to be removed for better clearance. It's a little shovel, of course it's there for getting air into the CVT cooler so ... trade offs. Anyway, Thanks for a great video and improving the proving grounds!
Makes sense. I live in colorado, and our merge lanes have a short red light for each car. There is no way you could get up to 83 to merge. The lights space traffic out so you do t need to speed.
I just bought one of these. The front bumper 'lip' is too low, Gonna have it removed. Excellent vehicle so far. So glad they made the 2.5 ltr available on the Crosstrek!
@@trentkesler7260 Keep in mind that the front lip pulls air into an active damper for the Transmation Cooler. not to mention all the underside plastics... If you remove it you need to replace it somehow.
It looks like the biggest challenge for it was the loose dirt, which would challenge most non-hardcore vehicles. It would be interesting to see it redo this course in a year when the trail is hard packed. It will still have the angles and dips, but the loose soil should harden up.
It would also be interesting if Ryan had funds to swap the tires out for more offroad type tires and see the difference. Those tires on that car are nothing more than all season tires...they're less aggressive than the plain old M&S tires on my 2WD Ford Ranger LOL.
@@wildbill23c It's not about the funds. They tests vehicles as they come out of the factory, especially on these CUVs when most owners hardly will push things to the limit and Ryan like to show what the capability is when the limits are pushed.
Your videos have had the effect Subaru was hoping for... Soon there will be another one in the PNW.... Last month I ordered the same green CTW and waiting for it to come in next month. So I was excited to see this video when it popped up this morning. Good job on all your videos and getting this nice testing ground set up.
His and other videos along with the safety factor Consumer Reports did, AND crash tests led me to by my first ever Subaru. It's a 2024 Forester Wilderness.
@@drivingsportsI hated this color. The dealer had green or red, so I chose the red CTW with the gold accents on the roof rack. The car is great, and it looks ridiculous enough to make me smile whenever I see it.
That little crosstrek continues to impress at the price point. I bet the RAV4 TRD would not have made it. Bronco Sport Badlands NEEDS to make an appearance on this trail. As always thanks for the hard work you do Ryan. Love your content.
Seen the crosstrek in action….this is a great little suv! Easy in the city and off roading. Not going to climb rocks but pretty capable in what you need it to do. Well done Subaru….good test
I definitely think what matters with the Wilderness models is that it's what these "offroad trims" from other brands are supposed to be, not just throwing on more plastic cladding and all-terrains and calling it a day.
What a great review! I'm truly impressed about the high level and quality of the overall production in this, including that course building, camera work and the amazing review itself. So complete and interesting to watch, loved it. Everything is just so well put together, Thank you so much for bringing this!
A Maverick in general on the course would be interesting. I'm leaning towards getting a Subaru Forester Wilderness, but also kind of curious as to how the AWD system in those Mavericks performs in these scenarios.
You and the throttle house guys probably have the best jobs out there! Thanks for putting so much into your content. It’s truly a passion and it shows.
The Subaru Crosstrek, for the price and the features, is still the best bang for the buck on the market. (Edit…I had to laugh at the Mazda protege guy comment 😂)
@mattalexander4699 lmao .... you obviously don't know that Toyota owns a 20% stake in Subaru. Yet it's overpriced garbage. Nice observation from someone who is making payments on a Toyota. 🤣. Just for the record, I own one also, ordered it back in 1998, a Limited & mine has a TRD Supercharger on it. I also ordered and own a '21 Subaru Crosstrek Limited. And obviously since it's in my pic, a little, slow slug from Chevrolet. If your gonna make negative comments, I'd make sure I'm not driving something that has the largest share hold in something I'm ragging on. Doesn't help your knowledge level.
Love your videos!! I love the fact that you are doing something different than other channels who also review cars! Because of your channel my wife and i purchased an OBW. Keep it up man!! Please take the OBW on this trail!!
@TheCreateOutdoors My wife had never owned a Subie until we got our OBW. I currently own a 2015 WRX so I already knew what to expect from Subaru. It's been 2 years and we love our OBW I wish we would of waited to get all the upgrades the new ones have but oh well.
@@def336tones I’m pretty sure you can upgrade the 22 to have the sound upgrade (my 22 FW has it) but yeah, nothing you can do about the steering wheel.
If there's something I like about this channel is that the test are not random... This guy built his own testing area with very clear goals in mind, and it shows. Great job!
As always a great video! Thank you. I've found that turning off the eyesight front collision is essential when doing rougher trails. I have a 2024 OBW, and had a 2202 OBW (same issue). You'll find that it cuts power and limits throttle even before it tells you (blinky lights and sounds) or actually stops the car. Drivability goes way up with it off. Would like to see you repeat some of the same more challenging sections with it turned off. You might just find that the Crosstrek moves through those sections much more easily.
What's more fun? Testing these vehicles on the courses or using a Bobcat to move stuff? Love to see these videos and it is awesome to see you build your own courses. Your videos are the reason I bought my first Subaru Crosstrek. Keep it up!
Fun to watch video, I hope Subaru gives you some commission as I bought one of these (same color) after watching your videos! I absolutely love it!! Also I learned something new about blackberries!
Thanks for uploading another great video! The best part about the channel is that you use a wide variety of makes and models and you have helped me appreciate new vehicles
I think adding hybrid power to these cars will make them much better. Better low-end torque and efficiency while crawling. Not to mention more accurate TC with electric motors. Clearly these cars are best on flatter surfaces but it is good to see how far it can go in extreme cases. Not bad at all. I'm sold on Subaru AWD.
After watching your videos on the crosstrek in snow and dirt, I'm beginning to believe if you could get it going fast enough uphill, it could take you to the moon. Incredible little vehicle.
I just replaced my Tacoma 2WD w/ locker with a crosstrek wilderness. I can tell you the Tacoma would not have gotten up the first hill with loose dirt. Cause I did exactly the same kind of thing this winter and got stuck.
Thanks for the excavating and Crosstrek review DS - here in Tasmania I’ve owned 12 Subarus over many years - in fact we have the highest proportion of Subarus per capital than anywhere else in the world - I am pleased to see that Subaru have reintroduced the analogue coolant temperature gauge after removing it in 2008 which I suspect is why so many have overheated and destroyed engines because a simple red warning light like I had in my 2010 XT Forester meant it was too late because the engine was cooked - we also get a lot of CVT failures like Nissan’s XTrail so I’d like to see Subaru/Toyota reintroduce a conventional automatic transmission as Nissan has now done with the new Pathfinder - Crosstrek Wilderness has good ground clearance and looks great with all that reintroduced body cladding to protect fenders etc that all started with my original 1997 Forester LTD which came with 280mm of ground clearance - we have blackberry plagues here because some British idiot decided they wanted something to eat on their bushwalks.
If they brought them out with a dual range manual again...I know they never will...but one can dream. It's a treat to get out of my boring work ute after the week and hop into my old manual outback 😉
@@procrastinator1842 yes P nothing like a manual Subie - while I work on my auto diesel Hilux project for 1 mth I’m driving my friend’s manual Subie and loving it - I wish I’d kept my 1990 Liberty wagon as a runaround - some one is trying to sell their 2013 Subaru Forester with the dreaded CVT for $3500 on Carsales Australia - it’s bizarre that there’s cost over $38000 to buy just 10 years ago and besides the consistent CVT failures and over $8k to replace the rest of the vehicle is perfect. - I don’t think they’ll bring back the conventional auto transmission but Nissan has learnt from the XTrail debacle (global law suit) and reintroduced the conventional auto in the new Pathfinder.
Pretty cool test track for these CUVs. Although my criticism would be the ditch might be a little to deep for CUVS, seeing that the Crosstrek is such a compact vehicle. I imagine every vehicle will scratch their front fenders on this section. Also the terrain is still very fresh, almost like loose sand in some section, which is tough. Needs some rain to pack it down. When you have to use the locker on your Ford Tremor on one section, that means it's too much for crossovers.
How about the Ford Explorer or Chevy Traverse on this test trail. By the way, you answered a big plant question. I have those blackberry weeds scattered around my yard.
With longer travel suspension and a front lower lip not as far forward this could be an even more awesome car. It would also be cool to see more of these in rally and rallycross races and longer suspension travel could easily win over some potential customers.
Great demonstration I will not be taking my New wilderness through that type of offloading, but it’s great to know and I am enjoying the heck out of my new SUBARU. This is our sixth one.
My girlfriend's friend has a crosstreck and I wasnt impressed with the specs sheets but when I sat in it I realized why it is so loved it's so pure and confortable and the engine is capable
Great video. A bit struggling here and there, but to be fair, I wouldn't mistake what you built for a road 😂 I've been all over Alligator River in our Forester, and nowhere there are the roads anywhere close to what you got. But it's nice to know that if I go nuts entirely - like you, Wilderness will see me through. 🐺👍
Great video as usual, Ryan. Looking forward to seeing more vehicles on the new section. I was curious, have you ever had occasion to test any of the Torq Locker aftermarket auto lockers on any of your courses side-by-side with a stock Subaru with XMode? I think you had the video a while back where that guy had one on his Outback, but that wasn't your own vehicle/course, and if I remember right you had your 4Runner at that time, not a Subaru.
The Forester Wilderness has a much better approach angle than the Crosstrek. (23.5 vs 20) It might be able conquer this new course without scooping dirt.
Now that Subaru has FINALLY updated EyeSight(TM) to support manually transmission, I'd totally buy a Crosstrek or Forester if they brought back manual transmission for them, but nope. They had to get rid of manual transmission first, and then add EyeSight support.
17:07 It's because of you and my viewing that I bought a 2024 Subaru Crosstrek Wilderness... You should get commission on that! Keep up the nice content! Chad
I had an old GX470, and it was a fun vehicle. But I am very happy with my new outback. It is just so much better for what I do, which is mostly long road trips driving in a varied conditions from the desert to snowy mountain roads.
@@matthewjohnson1211 You own a Wilderness? He was testing the brake vectoring or whatever it's called. Usually, it can get itself out when it's stuck, on his video and others I've seen. The difference here was him having to use more gas and momentum. That's good info.
@@Madaster1917 No, I don’t have the wilderness -but I would trade my 2019 in a sec if the wilderness came in manual transmission! The one negative I can see about the wilderness (besides CVT) is the approach angle. I was just looking at that lower front lip at the dealer last week and here in Video in kinda became an issue.
In Europe that have a Toyota Yaris Cross with an AWD system and traction control system done so poorly that 2WD vehicles surpass it. Too bad I couldn't see one try to tackle this course. 😅
The Yaris cross AWD is a hybrid and an embarrassment to AWD. It gets a 5hp motor at the back. It costs 30k and even with snow and trail mode. The fwd petrol version will perform better in rough conditions.... I garantee it wouldn't even make the entrance to this course...
This is a terrific video. Never saw your channel before but I am a follower now. I’m thinking ahead to my next car and looking at the Subaru Crosstrek Wilderness edition. This video has been so helpful! Thank you very much for this. The Crosstrek Wilderness would easily meet my needs in terms of the types of roads or terrain I would typically have to traverse.
@@RRr-yl8zr Absolutely! My wife has a ‘21 Forester with the CVT. It’s a nice car & great in the snow, but that CVT makes it absolutely uninspiring to drive.
I have done worse roads in my 2021 6MT Crosstrek consistently, but I might not have been that careful with it... I tend to use as much momentum as possible to climb out of obstacles.
In Xmode 1 (snow/dirt) might turning off vehicle dynamics improve xmode performance (allow more wheel spin)? would be good to know as many Subarus only have single mode X-mode.
Your content is always top of the line. You clearly are passionate about the cars and the content you make with them. I love that subaru is really embracing the heavier off road market. Sure, the car still has its limitations but it's coming along in the right direction.
I don't understand one thing, why when it has awd4 so it spins the wheels only crosswise, when the car is stuck and continue with X mode, the car should move all 4 wheels and not just connect ? 🤷♂️
I have maybe the only Crosstrek in North Carolina with a manual shift and i love it for my hiking fishing paddling and wildlife photography retirement hobbies. I consider it ann all road notvam off toad vehicles. Perfect for dirt roads.
Been on the fence of buying this for a while. Love all the videos, definitely going to make the purchase. Would love to see the same course completed with your pick in more capable tires.
There is a big debate between Subaru owners if thay need X Mode deep mud & snow ,thay clame it will be enough to cancel traction control... my opinion it will not make the Subaru move on. X mode deep mud &snow is not perfect but is help a lot . great video, thanks again.
I’m just trying to figure out where I can get that car for 33k without a big markup. The car’s more capable than I thought. It looks like what it needs mostly is some aggressive tires.
My dad sent this to me as he got this same car about a month ago. Now I want to see my car on something like this. No way could it do this track, and it would need a tow strap nearby. But it is body on frame, has pretty high ground clearance, and a limited slip diff. Rear wheel drive though.
You think a 2024 outback wilderness with AT tires like wild peaks could get through this?? I feel like I saw they improved/tweaked the mode in the 24 models to do a bit better. Want to hear your thoughts. Thanks!
Sooner or later, we'll have to give the wife's lifted 21 Crosstrek Sport to our college kid. Probably gonna have to buy one of these for her. Just for the cool factor.
You did not using shift gear from sheering wheel to click low gear to level 1 to 8 help reducing spinning the speed or move to manual paddle gear either way ! Next time try that show me VLOG !
The achilles heel with these vehicles isn't necessarily their 4wd system (although likely the system could still be more aggressive (say like Atrac for Toyota, which is one of the best); but it's more to do with the torque management in place to protect the CVT transmission. The fact that it has a CVT means the system has to be far more of a protective system in order to keep temps down due to the nature of cvts... If this had a manual option, or better yet, a conventional auto, the system could get way more aggressive with its torque transfer system.
I wonder if the forester wilderness would have made that ditch smoother with its better approach angle. Also, is the difference between snow/dirt and deep snow/mud just the absence of traction control or is there more to it? How much difference is there going through deep snow and mud between using snow/dirt with traction control off versus just using the deep snow/mud mode?
It’s a great little car, which is why I bought one for our daughter, but having spent a little time underneath one of these, I would caution against anyone thinking to really beat one of these up off road on a regular basis because the suspension while a bit tougher than some, just isn’t built for real off road. Doing a hundred yards of rocks and logs is one thing. Holding up over years of this is different, and it won’t. Just not made for it. Washboarded dirts roads and such, sure. But do this kind of thing a lot and you’ll be in for some repairs soon enough. Be aware of its limitations and it’s a fantastic car.
I'm just not a fan of the Xmode settings. My wife's 2015 CrossTrek doesn't have Xmode, but the AWD performs great. We have had ours in similar situations without nearly the wheel spin this one had. Perhaps the dirt wasn't as loose? Maybe? But ours has Conquered those same situations much, much easier. We do have a more rugged tire as well, which I'm sure makes a big difference. Seeing this one spin much more than our 2015 is a concern for me.
I think it's really the loose dirt. I find XMode is really a "worst case scenario setting". I have driven my Forester Wilderness on trails with XMode off and it does fine.
given that most people actually thinking of taking one on anything harder than a fire road will be putting more capable tires on, I think that's a warranted upgrade for your testing.
Subaru please sponsor this guy. He does more work for your products than any other youtuber.
Building your own course is very impressive. Glad to see that the Crosstrek made it through mostly unscathed!
As an avid camper/backpacker/hiker/mountain biker/kayaker who does so with an awd cadillac ats, I can confidently say that the standard crosstrek would be all the offroad capability I would ever need to enjoy my hobbies. As it stands, the ats has never failed to get me to where I need to go, but there have been times where the gravel roads would get very bad and I'd have to pick my line very carefully to make it through. I'd be that guy who gets to the trailhead and turns heads because every other vehicle there is a truck or "off roader" suv, then I roll up in my caddy lol. The reason I don't bother getting something more capable is because even though I get out for an adventure every single month, 95% of my time is still spent on road. Fuel efficieny, comfort, and on road performance still far outweigh my need to sacrifice those things for really nothing more than peace of mind when the road occasionaly gets rough. And for reference, I live in michigan and still go winter camping in the up and to the remote areas of our beautiful state, so dont assume that the only reason my awd sedan can do those things is because i live somewhere like florida lol.
Tldr; the standard crosstrek is all the capability most people would ever need, even if they live an active outdoors lifestyle.
Love the old sand logging trails👍
My dealer gave me a Crosstrek Wilderness while my wife’s Ascent is getting serviced. I was truly surprised how comfortable, quiet, and solid this car is.
Quiet? Surely you jest.
@@mr.bnatural3700 yeah looked at getting one as well as an outback, both felt really cheap and were not quiet at all.
😂😅
My other vehicle is my 1982 toyota pickup, so my crosstrek is VERY quite.
I'd think that Crosstrek would feel awfully cramped after driving your Ascent though?
At this point you should start making excavator reviews, great work as always.
I just wanted to show my appreciation to you and your outstanding work. You are favorite car review channel. Keep up an outstanding job!
I would love to see all the wilderness go up against each other, to see how they compare. Done though various different level obstacles
Ryan, Thanks for pushing the Crosstrek Wilderness through this trail. Since the first time I saw the preproduction car, I wanted to figure out how to reduce the lower lip. You have just proven to me that in needs to be removed for better clearance. It's a little shovel, of course it's there for getting air into the CVT cooler so ... trade offs. Anyway, Thanks for a great video and improving the proving grounds!
Makes sense. I live in colorado, and our merge lanes have a short red light for each car. There is no way you could get up to 83 to merge. The lights space traffic out so you do t need to speed.
I just bought one of these. The front bumper 'lip' is too low, Gonna have it removed. Excellent vehicle so far. So glad they made the 2.5 ltr available on the Crosstrek!
@@trentkesler7260 Keep in mind that the front lip pulls air into an active damper for the Transmation Cooler. not to mention all the underside plastics... If you remove it you need to replace it somehow.
I wish the Crosstrek had as much approach angle as it did departure angle.
No dip sherlock
For a split second, when that excavator started beeping, I thought Ryan was cussing and it was being bleeped.
I just read your post and 20 seconds later I thought the same thing. My brain is fried hahahahaha
Heard the samething 😁
It looks like the biggest challenge for it was the loose dirt, which would challenge most non-hardcore vehicles. It would be interesting to see it redo this course in a year when the trail is hard packed. It will still have the angles and dips, but the loose soil should harden up.
It would also be interesting if Ryan had funds to swap the tires out for more offroad type tires and see the difference. Those tires on that car are nothing more than all season tires...they're less aggressive than the plain old M&S tires on my 2WD Ford Ranger LOL.
@@wildbill23c nah, they are decent tires, but certainly not hard core off road tires. they are much better than all season tires though.
@@wildbill23c It's not about the funds. They tests vehicles as they come out of the factory, especially on these CUVs when most owners hardly will push things to the limit and Ryan like to show what the capability is when the limits are pushed.
Your videos have had the effect Subaru was hoping for... Soon there will be another one in the PNW.... Last month I ordered the same green CTW and waiting for it to come in next month. So I was excited to see this video when it popped up this morning. Good job on all your videos and getting this nice testing ground set up.
His and other videos along with the safety factor Consumer Reports did, AND crash tests led me to by my first ever Subaru. It's a 2024 Forester Wilderness.
The green looks so good. Ideal color for the CTW.
@@drivingsportsI hated this color. The dealer had green or red, so I chose the red CTW with the gold accents on the roof rack. The car is great, and it looks ridiculous enough to make me smile whenever I see it.
All the CTW colours are awesome !
I would love to see another run of the Outback Wilderness with the new courses you have built.
That little crosstrek continues to impress at the price point.
I bet the RAV4 TRD would not have made it.
Bronco Sport Badlands NEEDS to make an appearance on this trail.
As always thanks for the hard work you do Ryan. Love your content.
Seen the crosstrek in action….this is a great little suv! Easy in the city and off roading. Not going to climb rocks but pretty capable in what you need it to do. Well done Subaru….good test
I definitely think what matters with the Wilderness models is that it's what these "offroad trims" from other brands are supposed to be, not just throwing on more plastic cladding and all-terrains and calling it a day.
What a great review! I'm truly impressed about the high level and quality of the overall production in this, including that course building, camera work and the amazing review itself. So complete and interesting to watch, loved it. Everything is just so well put together, Thank you so much for bringing this!
I’m a big guy, 6-10 and this car fits me. I love it! I want to see a video just on the Bobcat and heavy equipment,😂. Seriously though!
Oh man, this videos are so helpful, and the fact that you are actually building the trails yourself is an amazing experience for you for sure. 👍🏻
Nice video, would be curious to see a Maverick Tremor on this course if you can get your hands on one.
A Maverick in general on the course would be interesting. I'm leaning towards getting a Subaru Forester Wilderness, but also kind of curious as to how the AWD system in those Mavericks performs in these scenarios.
The Crosstrek did surprisingly well. Thank you for the review!
This trail is a great idea to weed out the pretenders vs the contenders.
You and the throttle house guys probably have the best jobs out there! Thanks for putting so much into your content. It’s truly a passion and it shows.
The Subaru Crosstrek, for the price and the features, is still the best bang for the buck on the market.
(Edit…I had to laugh at the Mazda protege guy comment 😂)
Overpriced garbage.
@mattalexander4699 what are you buying that's better & cheaper?
@mattalexander4699 lmao .... you obviously don't know that Toyota owns a 20% stake in Subaru. Yet it's overpriced garbage.
Nice observation from someone who is making payments on a Toyota. 🤣.
Just for the record, I own one also, ordered it back in 1998, a Limited & mine has a TRD Supercharger on it. I also ordered and own a '21 Subaru Crosstrek Limited. And obviously since it's in my pic, a little, slow slug from Chevrolet.
If your gonna make negative comments, I'd make sure I'm not driving something that has the largest share hold in something I'm ragging on.
Doesn't help your knowledge level.
Id love to see a video where you compare the older subaru awd systems from the 2000s agained the current xmode system. :)
That would be interesting
I would really this! This is a great idea!
As someone who has both kinds, I am certainly going to make a video on it.
@@TheCreateOutdoors that's awesome! Just subscribed to your channel.
Love your videos!! I love the fact that you are doing something different than other channels who also review cars! Because of your channel my wife and i purchased an OBW. Keep it up man!! Please take the OBW on this trail!!
Same! I bought my Forester Wilderness because of this channel.
@TheCreateOutdoors My wife had never owned a Subie until we got our OBW. I currently own a 2015 WRX so I already knew what to expect from Subaru. It's been 2 years and we love our OBW I wish we would of waited to get all the upgrades the new ones have but oh well.
@@def336tones personally I like the 2022 over the 2024 but to each their own!
@TheCreateOutdoors The 24 Outback has a Harman Kardon sound system and a heated steering wheel that ours doesn't have that's about it honestly.
@@def336tones I’m pretty sure you can upgrade the 22 to have the sound upgrade (my 22 FW has it) but yeah, nothing you can do about the steering wheel.
If there's something I like about this channel is that the test are not random... This guy built his own testing area with very clear goals in mind, and it shows. Great job!
Been driving them up here in northern Illinois for decades, never got stuck, never had a breakdown requiring towing.
The whole family drives them.
As always a great video! Thank you. I've found that turning off the eyesight front collision is essential when doing rougher trails. I have a 2024 OBW, and had a 2202 OBW (same issue). You'll find that it cuts power and limits throttle even before it tells you (blinky lights and sounds) or actually stops the car. Drivability goes way up with it off. Would like to see you repeat some of the same more challenging sections with it turned off. You might just find that the Crosstrek moves through those sections much more easily.
That's very interesting
What's more fun? Testing these vehicles on the courses or using a Bobcat to move stuff? Love to see these videos and it is awesome to see you build your own courses. Your videos are the reason I bought my first Subaru Crosstrek. Keep it up!
Bobcats are hella fun.
Bobcat.
Fun to watch video, I hope Subaru gives you some commission as I bought one of these (same color) after watching your videos! I absolutely love it!! Also I learned something new about blackberries!
I don't know about commission but Subaru did loan him the car
Thanks for uploading another great video! The best part about the channel is that you use a wide variety of makes and models and you have helped me appreciate new vehicles
I think adding hybrid power to these cars will make them much better. Better low-end torque and efficiency while crawling. Not to mention more accurate TC with electric motors. Clearly these cars are best on flatter surfaces but it is good to see how far it can go in extreme cases. Not bad at all. I'm sold on Subaru AWD.
Nice course and nice video. The Crosstrek did very well. Curious to see how well a Bronco Sport Badlands would do, which is what I have.
Is there a video where this vehicle is loaded with gear for camping and tested? Great video!👍
In our road trip video the trunk is full of gear.
After watching your videos on the crosstrek in snow and dirt, I'm beginning to believe if you could get it going fast enough uphill, it could take you to the moon. Incredible little vehicle.
Shocked that the Crosstrek Wilderness did well on the tougher off road course. As watching the video, I thought it was completely stuck.
Great video as usual! I'd love to see you test a new 2024 Tacoma Prerunner on your course -- 2WD with a locker. That should be interesting!
That’s how I’ve got my ‘23 Ranger configured…2WD with a locker.
I just replaced my Tacoma 2WD w/ locker with a crosstrek wilderness. I can tell you the Tacoma would not have gotten up the first hill with loose dirt. Cause I did exactly the same kind of thing this winter and got stuck.
You never disappoint with your content. Keep it up!
Thanks for the excavating and Crosstrek review DS - here in Tasmania I’ve owned 12 Subarus over many years - in fact we have the highest proportion of Subarus per capital than anywhere else in the world - I am pleased to see that Subaru have reintroduced the analogue coolant temperature gauge after removing it in 2008 which I suspect is why so many have overheated and destroyed engines because a simple red warning light like I had in my 2010 XT Forester meant it was too late because the engine was cooked - we also get a lot of CVT failures like Nissan’s XTrail so I’d like to see Subaru/Toyota reintroduce a conventional automatic transmission as Nissan has now done with the new Pathfinder - Crosstrek Wilderness has good ground clearance and looks great with all that reintroduced body cladding to protect fenders etc that all started with my original 1997 Forester LTD which came with 280mm of ground clearance - we have blackberry plagues here because some British idiot decided they wanted something to eat on their bushwalks.
If they brought them out with a dual range manual again...I know they never will...but one can dream. It's a treat to get out of my boring work ute after the week and hop into my old manual outback 😉
@@procrastinator1842 yes P nothing like a manual Subie - while I work on my auto diesel Hilux project for 1 mth I’m driving my friend’s manual Subie and loving it - I wish I’d kept my 1990 Liberty wagon as a runaround - some one is trying to sell their 2013 Subaru Forester with the dreaded CVT for $3500 on Carsales Australia - it’s bizarre that there’s cost over $38000 to buy just 10 years ago and besides the consistent CVT failures and over $8k to replace the rest of the vehicle is perfect. - I don’t think they’ll bring back the conventional auto transmission but Nissan has learnt from the XTrail debacle (global law suit) and reintroduced the conventional auto in the new Pathfinder.
Pretty cool test track for these CUVs. Although my criticism would be the ditch might be a little to deep for CUVS, seeing that the Crosstrek is such a compact vehicle. I imagine every vehicle will scratch their front fenders on this section. Also the terrain is still very fresh, almost like loose sand in some section, which is tough. Needs some rain to pack it down. When you have to use the locker on your Ford Tremor on one section, that means it's too much for crossovers.
I can agree with this, if it's too deep for the CTW, it's probably going to be difficult for all the others. Bronco sport might make it though.
I hope you're able to hang onto this new test area. It's just going to get better over time.
We own it, so it will be around a while.
@@drivingsportswould you rent it out to enthusiasts?
@@LongIslandMopars Haven’t thought about it much. Site needs some development before we do that.
@@drivingsports Gotcha. Thanks!
Dude...I love the content. Also take that protégé guy lol
How about the Ford Explorer or Chevy Traverse on this test trail. By the way, you answered a big plant question. I have those blackberry weeds scattered around my yard.
With longer travel suspension and a front lower lip not as far forward this could be an even more awesome car. It would also be cool to see more of these in rally and rallycross races and longer suspension travel could easily win over some potential customers.
Great demonstration I will not be taking my New wilderness through that type of offloading, but it’s great to know and I am enjoying the heck out of my new SUBARU. This is our sixth one.
My girlfriend's friend has a crosstreck and I wasnt impressed with the specs sheets but when I sat in it I realized why it is so loved it's so pure and confortable and the engine is capable
how I feel when I electrify the kindergarten fence
I want to see a cx50 and a passport on this
Great video. A bit struggling here and there, but to be fair, I wouldn't mistake what you built for a road 😂 I've been all over Alligator River in our Forester, and nowhere there are the roads anywhere close to what you got. But it's nice to know that if I go nuts entirely - like you, Wilderness will see me through. 🐺👍
Great video as usual, Ryan. Looking forward to seeing more vehicles on the new section. I was curious, have you ever had occasion to test any of the Torq Locker aftermarket auto lockers on any of your courses side-by-side with a stock Subaru with XMode? I think you had the video a while back where that guy had one on his Outback, but that wasn't your own vehicle/course, and if I remember right you had your 4Runner at that time, not a Subaru.
Please run the Forester Wilderness through this, or have you and I missed it?
I believe he plans to run the 2025 Forester Wilderness through this whenever that’s out (as it’ll be newly redesigned by then).
The Forester Wilderness has a much better approach angle than the Crosstrek. (23.5 vs 20) It might be able conquer this new course without scooping dirt.
love my 24 crosstrek limited! they didn’t have any wilderness available so i saved some $$
Another great video Ryan! I'd love to bring my Bronco Sport Badlands with Toyo At3s to that course (I live in Seattle).
Now that Subaru has FINALLY updated EyeSight(TM) to support manually transmission, I'd totally buy a Crosstrek or Forester if they brought back manual transmission for them, but nope. They had to get rid of manual transmission first, and then add EyeSight support.
17:07 It's because of you and my viewing that I bought a 2024 Subaru Crosstrek Wilderness... You should get commission on that! Keep up the nice content!
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I had an old GX470, and it was a fun vehicle. But I am very happy with my new outback. It is just so much better for what I do, which is mostly long road trips driving in a varied conditions from the desert to snowy mountain roads.
Great vids on the capabilities. Keep it up. Thanks
Great video. First time I've seen the Wilderness really struggle on your channel. Now I know what to maybe avoid in my 2022 Forester Wilderness ha
Slight bit of click-bait I would say…The crosstrek looked “challeged” -but other than getting it’s nose stuck -made it pretty smoothly.
@@matthewjohnson1211 You own a Wilderness? He was testing the brake vectoring or whatever it's called. Usually, it can get itself out when it's stuck, on his video and others I've seen. The difference here was him having to use more gas and momentum. That's good info.
@@Madaster1917 No, I don’t have the wilderness -but I would trade my 2019 in a sec if the wilderness came in manual transmission! The one negative I can see about the wilderness (besides CVT) is the approach angle. I was just looking at that lower front lip at the dealer last week and here in Video in kinda became an issue.
Approach angle on the FW is better than the CTW but I would probably still do one of those obstacles with caution
In Europe that have a Toyota Yaris Cross with an AWD system and traction control system done so poorly that 2WD vehicles surpass it. Too bad I couldn't see one try to tackle this course. 😅
The Yaris cross AWD is a hybrid and an embarrassment to AWD. It gets a 5hp motor at the back. It costs 30k and even with snow and trail mode. The fwd petrol version will perform better in rough conditions.... I garantee it wouldn't even make the entrance to this course...
Toyotas are terrible off-road except 4 runner which is ok
Curious as to how much air in the tires ? They looked pretty solid
I dont think he airs down on purpose
Great job once again Ryan 💯 Do you think my Crosstrek Sport would make through? Man you have one of the best jobs!!
This is a terrific video. Never saw your channel before but I am a follower now. I’m thinking ahead to my next car and looking at the Subaru Crosstrek Wilderness edition. This video has been so helpful! Thank you very much for this. The Crosstrek Wilderness would easily meet my needs in terms of the types of roads or terrain I would typically have to traverse.
Did you end up getting? If so, how do you like it?
Unfortunately, there is not a manual Transmition one.
It’s a shame they quit offering the Crosstrek with a manual!
@@RRr-yl8zr Absolutely! My wife has a ‘21 Forester with the CVT. It’s a nice car & great in the snow, but that CVT makes it absolutely uninspiring to drive.
I have done worse roads in my 2021 6MT Crosstrek consistently, but I might not have been that careful with it... I tend to use as much momentum as possible to climb out of obstacles.
In Xmode 1 (snow/dirt) might turning off vehicle dynamics improve xmode performance (allow more wheel spin)? would be good to know as many Subarus only have single mode X-mode.
Your content is always top of the line. You clearly are passionate about the cars and the content you make with them. I love that subaru is really embracing the heavier off road market. Sure, the car still has its limitations but it's coming along in the right direction.
When are u gonna review the new Santa Fe XRT off road?
I love this car. My wife has one and i have a cx-30 and this car holds up so well.
I don't understand one thing, why when it has awd4 so it spins the wheels only crosswise, when the car is stuck and continue with X mode, the car should move all 4 wheels and not just connect ? 🤷♂️
Yet again, I want to see you doing this with your foot on the brake to see if it will transfer easier
Same. Everytime I see these wheels spinning, I wonder if just a bit of manual braking would get things moving.
scrapes on the bumper are "badges of honor" and help offset the rock chips on the hood.
I have maybe the only Crosstrek in North Carolina with a manual shift and i love it for my hiking fishing paddling and wildlife photography retirement hobbies. I consider it ann all road notvam off toad vehicles. Perfect for dirt roads.
Been on the fence of buying this for a while. Love all the videos, definitely going to make the purchase. Would love to see the same course completed with your pick in more capable tires.
The stock tires don’t help. They’re designed for fuel economy with minimal off-road effects.
It didn't want to go backwards did it? I wonder why? And, I own an Outback. Hmmm...
Thinking about a purchase of one of the three Wilderness. Impressed by the Crosstreck but not sold on it. Great Information.
Wow, Im impressed that thing made it through. I might have to go test drive one.
There is a big debate between Subaru owners if thay need X Mode deep mud & snow ,thay clame it will be enough to cancel traction control...
my opinion it will not make the Subaru move on.
X mode deep mud &snow is not perfect but is help a lot .
great video, thanks again.
I’m just trying to figure out where I can get that car for 33k without a big markup. The car’s more capable than I thought. It looks like what it needs mostly is some aggressive tires.
My dad sent this to me as he got this same car about a month ago. Now I want to see my car on something like this. No way could it do this track, and it would need a tow strap nearby. But it is body on frame, has pretty high ground clearance, and a limited slip diff. Rear wheel drive though.
So capable 👌🏼thanks for sharing your content with us!
A lot of that would be fixed with more aggressive tires. Can't wait for mine to wear out, but the stockers barely look used at 22k
You think a 2024 outback wilderness with AT tires like wild peaks could get through this?? I feel like I saw they improved/tweaked the mode in the 24 models to do a bit better. Want to hear your thoughts. Thanks!
Imagine how much better this would be with a inline engine, at least 190hp with at least 185lbft and a 8 speed auto
Sooner or later, we'll have to give the wife's lifted 21 Crosstrek Sport to our college kid. Probably gonna have to buy one of these for her. Just for the cool factor.
I'm surprised how well the AWD systems in these Subarus perform. Wish my finances were in order to be able to get into a Forester Wilderness.
You did not using shift gear from sheering wheel to click low gear to level 1 to 8 help reducing spinning the speed or move to manual paddle gear either way ! Next time try that show me VLOG !
The achilles heel with these vehicles isn't necessarily their 4wd system (although likely the system could still be more aggressive (say like Atrac for Toyota, which is one of the best); but it's more to do with the torque management in place to protect the CVT transmission. The fact that it has a CVT means the system has to be far more of a protective system in order to keep temps down due to the nature of cvts... If this had a manual option, or better yet, a conventional auto, the system could get way more aggressive with its torque transfer system.
Founder of Seattle? 🤔. Were people not already there? How’s that measured and where did they bring the blackberries from?
Very informative video about the Crossterk capabilities, thank you!
I wonder if the forester wilderness would have made that ditch smoother with its better approach angle. Also, is the difference between snow/dirt and deep snow/mud just the absence of traction control or is there more to it? How much difference is there going through deep snow and mud between using snow/dirt with traction control off versus just using the deep snow/mud mode?
Ryan you’re the best ! Thank you for this review.❤
Since the drive system is computerized, could it be set to lock all four wheels?
How would the undercarriage hold up as a beach bum? Many days up and down South Padre Island? Gulf coast of Texas.
It’s a great little car, which is why I bought one for our daughter, but having spent a little time underneath one of these, I would caution against anyone thinking to really beat one of these up off road on a regular basis because the suspension while a bit tougher than some, just isn’t built for real off road. Doing a hundred yards of rocks and logs is one thing. Holding up over years of this is different, and it won’t. Just not made for it. Washboarded dirts roads and such, sure. But do this kind of thing a lot and you’ll be in for some repairs soon enough. Be aware of its limitations and it’s a fantastic car.
Is this open to the public ?
No. It’s our private filming course.
Can the sway bars be disconnected for better off-road performance?
I wanna try your trails in my 2024 Wrangler Sport with 33” A/T’s
I'm just not a fan of the Xmode settings. My wife's 2015 CrossTrek doesn't have Xmode, but the AWD performs great. We have had ours in similar situations without nearly the wheel spin this one had. Perhaps the dirt wasn't as loose? Maybe? But ours has Conquered those same situations much, much easier. We do have a more rugged tire as well, which I'm sure makes a big difference. Seeing this one spin much more than our 2015 is a concern for me.
I think it's really the loose dirt. I find XMode is really a "worst case scenario setting". I have driven my Forester Wilderness on trails with XMode off and it does fine.
given that most people actually thinking of taking one on anything harder than a fire road will be putting more capable tires on, I think that's a warranted upgrade for your testing.
What about trying the Old Telegrapf Road Australia ?
Probably high centered as soon as it hit the ditch in Palm Creek