@@DJBillionator I call the motor in the Lexus LFA a v10 motor, and the one in the aventador a V12 motor. Bugatti likes to use W16 motors in their hyper cars. F1 cars currently use a V6 motor in a hybrid power train.
@@DisturbedVette that's because you don't know the difference between an electric motor and a gas engine. And, that's called ignorance when you choose to ignore the difference.
You guys are GENIOUSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I showed my father who has been a trucker all his life and he says that the motor is fantastic and he is fathomed by their work. I going to be a third generation trucker and that is the best and most jaw dropping semi engine I have ever seen. AWESOME JOB GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The biggest engine currently used in the world (i think) is the 25480 litre,14 Cylinder Wartsila Sulzer RTA96-C, pumping out 108,920 Horsepower and over 7.5 million Newton meters of torque at 102 RPM
My man ,you are a genius , A engineering work of art..Never seen anything like it. What patience , undoubtedly the most beautiful Detroit Diesel engine i have ever seen.. James Tan - Singapore
Love this engine. ...Here's to ingenuity, innovation, and engineering. ......whether or not it ever has any practical applications. It's still a thing of beauty to all who have a love for the mechanical
crazy how much technology has changed i just finished watching a video about a 4000 hp viper that still had the hood and you couldn’t tell it wasn’t stock
@adv512 First of all, this was a dyno run. That means it did have a load on it. A load of nearly 3500 hp, which at a typical 71 series speed of 2200 rpm is 8,300 ft-lbs of torque. Second, lots of tugboats used multiple 71 series Detroits driving one or two screws. Lastly, they aren't superchargers, they are blowers. Those blowers are often used as superchargers on 4-stroke engines, but in their original application on these 2-cycle Detroits they do not produce boost, hence are not superchargers.
I have yet to see ANY Dyno numbers. When they did this video, the engine never even pulled down when they loaded the Dyno. So I'm not going to believe this puts out over 3K HP till I see the numbers.
Watching the build portion was just as impressive as the engine run. Terrific design and build. The music was a perfect fit, you gotta be a cowboy to build this beast
@@jvmiller1995 Indeed. It also bears mentioning that anything over 1500hp is kinda wasteful (and dangerous) for on-road use. Once you get up into the area of 2 or 3000+ hp, you're just gonna be breaking traction (and drive-train parts for that matter) all the time, especially if it's pushing out the typical 2.5 lb/ft per hp, which is counterproductive to say the least lol. It also bears wondering how much power even a doubled-up/boxed truck frame will put up with before it breaks in half. Semi frame-rails may be made of tempered steel, but tempered steel has a draw-back. It's brittle, so it doesn't bend or stretch. It just snaps.
All show, no go... Having dyno'd a more than a few Detroit's in my time, I didn't here the dyno even put a load on the thing. Where's the smoke? It's not likely they have a dyno that could test to 3000 HP in the first place. It's a noisy fantasy show piece.. Pretty yes, but just trucker porn...
not to mention 3000hp from a diesel that big with that many blowers and nitro is not all that impressive, ive seen engines a 3rd that size with alot less boost and no nitro make up to 2500hp
Josh LaDue You must not know much about 2 stroke diesels...the blowers on these engines aren't there to supply boost, they're there to scavenge the cylinders. You also must not know much about show pieces. I seriously doubt he really cares how much power it makes. It's more about the fact that he hand-built it and it starts and runs.
The blowers were originally intended to just scavenge. But there are drive gear ratio changes, and blowers with different volumes per revolution to consider that would do more than scavenge...
I love it. That much horsepower is equivalent to the combined power of the 2 turboshaft engines of a mil mi 24 helicopter. I really admire what you have done, good job.
For those of you commenting about the butterfly valves not affecting RPMS, this is not a gas, but a diesel engine. RPM and power output is controlled by the injector pump. At idle, the motor uses little air and therefore closing the butterfly valves will have no effect. Why the butterfly valves in the first place? Search youtube for runaway diesel motor. The butterfly valves will stop that motor in runaway condition.
In this dyno test vid it appears that the butterflies on the eight visible air intakes are unrelated to engine rpm. They are nearly wide open with the engine at idle and are not synchronized. I suspect that the gingerbread on top, while cool looking, is unrelated to the actual fuel/air supply and probably are just idler pullies with no impellers inside the blower cases. He walks to the right side and reaches into the center area to rev the engine by hand and again the butterflies don't move until he reaches up and closes then opens them again with no change in rpm. The functional blowers and injectors must be hidden beneath all the eye candy. I would love more technical info and less carnival side show barker from Mr. Harrah. Amazing creation!
It would seem that way, though I believe you may be mistaken. He’s using drag racing components. At the very front of the intake cowls are first a set of secondary butterflies. These can be used to manually trim total air volume to match the atmosphere (density, humidity, barometric pressure all factors). Below the blowers there is a primary set of throttle bodies and injectors that actively control throttle air/fuel mixture and intake. These engines are essentially massive air pumps, the air fuel mixture and total volume takes a lot of fine tuning. Hope that makes sense.
That was no dyno pull. I want to see a screen that says the HP or some proof other than what he says. It's a cool thing to look at but everything is bogus.
It was built out off wood first as a mock up before an aluminum intake was constructed. Before you jump n call it fake, look it up. And gas mileage? It's diesel fuel not gas. That's all. Thanks!
For those who think the blowers are not functional because the butterflys are staying open, Detroit's like most diesels are controlled by fuel delivery not air. And its a 2 stoke diesel the blowers main purpose is for scavenging air pressure to clear exhaust gases. So yes those BLOWERS are very much funtional.
As a two-stroke diesel engine cannot naturally aspirate (draw in) intake air, a blower is necessary to provide sufficient air to scavenge exhaust gasses from the cylinders and support combustion. Later high-performance versions were available with turbochargers, and turbochargers with intercooling, the turbochargers discharging into the Roots blower intake. Hence why a two stoke diesel with a blower is still considered a naturally aspirated engine it will not run without a blower unless it has
omg what's that beautiful MUSIC? The only thing which is beeter than that hell of a motor is the music from 5:10. Great job, great sound, great tune. Respect.
This looks like some sort of promotional Gimmick to me. I Don't believe all the blowers are operational. You can't hear the blower whine and it sounds like an NA engine. The blower belts appear to come through the inlet manifold that the blowers are supposedly pressureising. Also at one point he shuts the butterflies on the bug catchers and the engine dosen't change note a bit. If it were running through them then closing them would be noticeable as even at idle this thing would be pulling a lot of air in being a diesel. The original V24's had turbos which would make a lot more sense and be infinately cheaper and easier to build than this thing. Another reason I have severe reservations about the legitimacy of this thing. Are there any other vids of this thing in action? Until I see something else that allays my suspicions, I'm calling this one FAKE.
Well, it is a Detroit 24v71 which is automatically a dual biturbo twin supercharged engine at around 1800 horse, designed to have that horse consistently at full rpm for hours straight, they probably are functional, but as this vehicle will not run without at least two forms of forced induction, and is two 12 cylinders butted together to make 24 ...it's prolly real, just useless, and a waist, detroits use old tech, a cummins qsk50 16 cyl with no supercharges, just dual biturbo, can create 2700 hp straight from cummins, and with the right cummins pull list, can produce what you want
MICHAEL CHEEVERS It's nothing but a large useless piece of waste money. I laugh at people building high dollar engines and don't bother with a air filter. Junk won't last long at all
If you look this up it really does make 3000+ hp it's now in a hot rod Pete it really is a 24 cylinder Detroit mainly they're used for generators hence the low rpms and all those blowers work just not at full potential. I'd go with the old school driven off the crank from the back gear driven blower. This is pretty cool though that they made it work.
No diesel knock and next to zero smoke, and that's just straight headers. MmmHmm... that on a dyno bogged down would of turned that room into a black toxic midnight.
Jacob Moore DEF is diesel Exhaust Fluid and a small stream is sprayed into the exhaust stream. The chemicals break down hydrocarbons coming out of the exhaust to reduce emissions. My cascadia had a def res. and when pulled in for random emissions test in NJ 0.0 on emissions test from what the paper said. I doubt its that little but either way I passed.
Very good lol I was talking to Eric Brunhammer but ya they didn't do it to reduce pollution I don't care what anybody says they just tried to find something to make more money on and its good for pollution but its not how they see it
thats impressive 3400 hp from a 24v71 a 12v71 that makes 900 hp is impressive so you got a beast i love those old detroits i hope what ever u run it in it whips the competion
@Possumlivingdotcom In short, a 2-stroke won't run without a blower. The piston uncovers the intake ports at the bottom of its travel. In a Detroit Diesel, which does have a cam that drives exhaust valves in the head, this is also when the exhaust valves are open, so the blower also pushes the exhaust gasses out to scavenge the cylinder. On these engines, this is considered to be naturally aspirated. You can turbocharge them, and GM did build factory turbo Detroits. But they still have a blower.
From what i have been able to find it runs at about 2250 rpm (unofficially). that being said T=5252*HP/RPM so 5252*3424=17982848. that divided by 2250 =7992 lb of braking torque.
@@tripplefives1402 watching the video if you look close he has belts running behind the blowers also ??? The belts run through the wooden intake manifold he built so how can any vacuum or pressure possibly be built to feed the engine . . Don't get me wrong it is a magnificent piece to look at and i credit him for his workmanship but .... I think the blowers on top as nice as they look are all show and no go . I may very well be wrong and if i am please correct me ,, looking at it i would think the intake would need to be sealed .
@@tripplefives1402 Sorry Sir . Yes I do see the Whipple blowers . 100% the screw blowers are sealed to the Whipple blowers I see that . What I don't understand is how the entire manifold is sealed with belts running through it . ??????
None of the 12 superchargers on this engine are of the Whipple type. These are all roots type superchargers. If you know the difference you can have a cookie. Also, this is all show and no go. The bling on top just spins empty blower housings. If they were all functional, the one blower belt that drives them would not be nearly adequate enough and likely break upon start up. And the wooden intake manifold/air scoop is still there, albeit covered in stainless sheet stock. This is amazing to look at but it's all smoke and mirrors.
@@turbo1438 The wood intake manifold is a template for the shop that built the custom aluminum manifold. If you had of read the magazine article you would have known this.
@@tripplefives1402 six 15 cummins with electronic turbo maybe , Cat Acert twin turbo maybe 45, Overhauled and used 2 stroke Detroit engine for a long time,they have no torque until they started make the 92 series with turbo,this is why they earned the reputation of gutless wonders in trucks, the roots blower from the factory turns 2 to 1 on crank speed so when they turn 3300 rpm you here the blower screaming at near 7000, the straight lobe 53 series is even louder ! We even had a 110 series that ran a rock crusher, that is 110 cubic inch per cylinder ! Very few people left that can setup the top end injector rack
@@tripplefives1402 He spent $7 million to build the engine and truck, he recently sold the complete truck at auction for $12 million. I'm just surprised that Jay Leno didn't buy it.
My grandaddy said they had a 24V71 in a grinder or some other stationary equipment. After they had it a couple of months it broke the crankshaft and cracked the block around the middle flange. It was the costliest rebuild that company had ever faced.
It sucks that this is all show. Those blowers don't work. You can't pressurize the manifold and have holes for blower belts. NONE of the butterflies work with the engine. And you can see that when he flips them open and closed. And it is definitely two 12cyl engines connected via shaft and not a single 24 cup engine. The list goes on and on. Looks cool. But any real gear head is going to walk as soon as they see the bullshit. But whatever floats his boat. It's his dollars and credibility.
+kousinkoolaid I'm all on your side! A couple of other things that looks strange: Seems to me that 3400 and-a-bit diesel HP's coming out of those short pipes would generate some serious black smoke. I see none of that... I KNOW for a fact that 650 HP in a somewhat big engine (27L RR V12) generates a lot of heat. Should be one mother of a cooling system for that beast. Where is that? But then again, I've never played with a Detroit Diesel so what do I know. And absolutely everything is chrome plated and/or polished, so it just have to be real based on that thing alone? Right? NO
+Marcus Etelhag and the moment he flipped them butterflies open on the injector hats that engine should have reved to the moon there was no change in teh rpms
+kousinkoolaid Dude, it's a diesel, of course the butterflies don't work.. lol Diesels don't throttle the air, they throttle speed with fuel. Also, Detroits can be bolted together to form larger modular engines. A 12v71 is two 6v71s bolted together, for eg. So you could conceivably bolt 4 6v71s together and make a 24v71? lol
Exactly. If it was a diesel it would generate a coal plant because they would have to be running some crazy as fuck amounts of fuel into it to get it to run properly and match the boost those blowers are making. It blew white smoke on startup which a diesel doesn't do. It can't be a diesel cause it doesn't act like a diesel would.
@magna8656 The screws in these blowers are clearly seen @6:49. The only problem that I am having with this setup is that I think that it would require about 1600 hp to drive the eight blowers on top via the common shaft down the middle of the manifold and I only see one belt assigned to that task. Even if the blowers were really under-driven, I have my doubts about one belt doing the job even with a stock sub-2400 rpm redline.
I'm glad someone else noticed,this thing is a joke, generally when you Dyno test an engine it changes tone when load it, as for the blowers 2 of 3 on the front have what maybe 6 teeth of contact with the cogbelt, not much power needed there , interesting craftsmanship, but this level of power can be achieved by a 3406 or kt 1150 with a single turbo, added bonus you could close a hood and not be so obnoxious, even GM 2 strokes had these things called mufflers
The 12V71 detroit was 750 hp at factory settings that is after allison took control of Detroit. You could set set a cup of coffee on the fender of a 359 peterbilt and not even see a ripple in the cup it ran so smooth. This particle truck had a 8in. Longer hood and if you find on the V12 was the correct engine. They had a 15 speed or a 5 and 4 Spicer or fuller.
+C Smith The three real 8v71 blowers that are under that contraption! 2 cycle Detroits need the blowers in order to run, and then you have the 9 on top for show.
Steven Strimling Actually that Detroit V24 has 4 blowers in the valley. There are 8 on the top of the engine. Look at pictures and you will see there is no blower in the center of the massive manifold. The top blowers are set up as 3 on the left, 3 on the right, and 2 in the center. It does have 12 blowers just not in the way you thought. The 4 in the valley are 6-71 units, not 8-71 like you are most likely thinking.
***** Well i really don`t know what to think of it. Of cause it seems unlogical if the intake were made from wood. But here`s some doubts about it. Why don`t you see the material from wich the intake is fabricated in the video. Perhaps cause the wood really is a template, and some cnc shop has fabricated the parts for the intake... At 7.23 in the video. The "metal" surface of the intake seems fake. Why are there printing on it, looks like some kinda foil/dynamat was put on. The hole in the end of the manifold. You can see how thick the material is, in that hole. Seem strange to fabricate the manifold in such thick material. it would be quite heavy. The thickness look very similar to those wooden plates they built the template of. And look at all the screws on the egdes, Id have the parts welded together. And why go all tha trouble of making a template. Surely it would be possible to measure your way out, and have it cnc cut from those mesurements. Furthermore as other mentioned. Doesn`t seem to be that blower sound, that along with the slots for the pulley belts, wich in no way can hold the charging pressure. And perhaps that i find it doubtfull that a single belt from the crankshaft, can manage to drive 6 fully charging blowers, without ripping. So many things seems sketchy about this, but on the other hand. Its a hell of a lot work to do for something fake.. I really don´t know what to believe.
Consumer: What is the efficiency of this engine?
Detroit: No.
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Who cares-it was designed for power and badness!! You’re lucky it doesn’t throw out a lot of rollin coal!!
Just thankful you didn't call it a motor.
@@DJBillionator I call the motor in the Lexus LFA a v10 motor, and the one in the aventador a V12 motor. Bugatti likes to use W16 motors in their hyper cars. F1 cars currently use a V6 motor in a hybrid power train.
@@DisturbedVette that's because you don't know the difference between an electric motor and a gas engine. And, that's called ignorance when you choose to ignore the difference.
A sleeper for sure. Very subtle. Work of art with lots of time and engineering.
Lmao
i don't think you know what a ''sleeper'' means, pal
@@juhannusruusu i dont think you detected his sarcasm, pal
@@juhannusruusu i dont think you know what sarcasm means dummy
I've never seen a sleeper with that many superchargers
I bet this thing uses a couple honda engines as a starter.
It probably needs a Fairbanks Morse 32D
Shit that things eats honda engines chevys fords and shits toyotas or nissans
I wanna know how that thing was put together like that especially with all those blowers on top
Correction, it uses the jet engine from a Hawker aircraft as its APU (auxiliary power unit), which technically means it could start the engine.
Honda's are like tampons every pussy has 1
I don't think the engine is the only thing sniffin' nitrous in this video.
That dude is meth injected.
😂😂😂😂
Well said bud....😂😂👍👍
Don't need dope around that green monster.
I’ll bet it’s that petrol. Probably extremely concentrated or alcohol converted or something. Which validates your point even more.
What an engine! Takes more horsepower to drive the belts than my car has.
Stranger: How much HP does it make?
Him: Yes
Stranger: How much torque does it make?
Him: You betcha
3456hp make
@@callmestarboy torque?
@@anoop_brar probably like 7-10k ft lbs
12000lbs of torque and 3500hp.
How much HP?
All of the HPs.
I love the fact there is not a DEF system to be found, but that engine appears to burn fairly clean, I didn't see much smoke at all.
Sweet! just what I was looking for! perfect swap for my fiat 500!
This engine is even bigger than a fiat 500!!
Supertuner franzs stick it in a Fiat 3000
@@LBLUME0722 ah ok.
@@Franzis2006 did you look it up? I think it would actually fit
@@LBLUME0722 i did
Fills fuel tanks
Starts engine
Out of fuel
I laughed my ass off you sir I will hold your 🍻
You won the inter-webs with that comment! 😜🤣
It needs a fuel tanker trailer to feed it.
Get bigger tanks no problem
That has got to be the most laid back 3424 horses I've ever seen... the torque must be insane in the membrane. Impressive!
This is some Mad Max level shit
You killed 24 hippies with this engine! Nice job man!
New rule, anyone who says "why" to something this beautiful, gets punched in the kidneys.
You guys are GENIOUSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I showed my father who has been a trucker all his life and he says that the motor is fantastic and he is fathomed by their work. I going to be a third generation trucker and that is the best and most jaw dropping semi engine I have ever seen. AWESOME JOB GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and listen to these *#@!% comments. they just don't know true art when they see it.
The biggest engine currently used in the world (i think) is the 25480 litre,14 Cylinder Wartsila Sulzer RTA96-C, pumping out 108,920 Horsepower and over 7.5 million Newton meters of torque at 102 RPM
For cargoships, not semis
My man ,you are a genius , A engineering work of art..Never seen anything like it.
What patience , undoubtedly the most beautiful Detroit Diesel engine i have ever seen..
James Tan - Singapore
Love this engine. ...Here's to ingenuity, innovation, and engineering. ......whether or not it ever has any practical applications. It's still a thing of beauty to all who have a love for the mechanical
Santa?......so this is the engine you use on your slay?.....damn
Normally my grammar troll would be on. "Santa's sleigh."
But ya said "slay," and man, you were not incorrect. ;)
That shit would make it slay. Werd.
I didn’t know Santa had a vehicle be signed specifically for slaying, just thought he had his sleigh.
Heck, technically I didn’t know he slayed anything anyways!
Ahahah
Put it in a Prius...or put a Prius in it.
***** Hahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, that post is gonna kill me... :D :D :D
This is gold! Hahahahahaha! My Sides! Buwhahahahahahaha XD!
I think you meant feed it a Prius.
Just awesome! Not only is it powerful, but it is a piece of art. Love the sound of detroit 2 strokers.
mike must be independently wealthy with as much free time as he has money. good for him. the polishing alone boggles the mind. very impressive.
That's one beautiful piece of workmanship absolutely awesome.
crazy how much technology has changed i just finished watching a video about a 4000 hp viper that still had the hood and you couldn’t tell it wasn’t stock
Probably alcohol fueled 🤠
I feel like I've stepped into Willy Wonka's Engine Factory. :-)
A labor of love here, no matter how you slice this one this is an awesome piece of machinery here by any standard, plain and simple!
@adv512 First of all, this was a dyno run. That means it did have a load on it. A load of nearly 3500 hp, which at a typical 71 series speed of 2200 rpm is 8,300 ft-lbs of torque. Second, lots of tugboats used multiple 71 series Detroits driving one or two screws. Lastly, they aren't superchargers, they are blowers. Those blowers are often used as superchargers on 4-stroke engines, but in their original application on these 2-cycle Detroits they do not produce boost, hence are not superchargers.
I have yet to see ANY Dyno numbers. When they did this video, the engine never even pulled down when they loaded the Dyno.
So I'm not going to believe this puts out over 3K HP till I see the numbers.
What?! Didn't you hear the governor pull down when they kicked in the dyno, and release when the dyno released? Wake up lad! Cheers.👍🇨🇦
Damn straight mother of all metal,beautiful. Years later and l still get shivers up my spine.
Goodbye 32 mpg
+JTEgaming 32gpm
.5 MPG
+Paladin -60 mpg
Good bye 32 mpg if you get a 1/4 that in any Detroit diesel let me know what the fuck you did
Welcome 1 MPG.
1 mile per gas station
Watching the build portion was just as impressive as the engine run. Terrific design and build. The music was a perfect fit, you gotta be a cowboy to build this beast
Now for the REAL test... How well does it pull hills with a 40k+ lb load?
you couldn't pull a 40k load if this was your engine you would never make weight with 40k on the truck.
@@jvmiller1995 Indeed. It also bears mentioning that anything over 1500hp is kinda wasteful (and dangerous) for on-road use. Once you get up into the area of 2 or 3000+ hp, you're just gonna be breaking traction (and drive-train parts for that matter) all the time, especially if it's pushing out the typical 2.5 lb/ft per hp, which is counterproductive to say the least lol. It also bears wondering how much power even a doubled-up/boxed truck frame will put up with before it breaks in half. Semi frame-rails may be made of tempered steel, but tempered steel has a draw-back. It's brittle, so it doesn't bend or stretch. It just snaps.
I don't think there is anything more beautiful than this
imagine the cooling you'd need for this
now i know why all the superchargers were out of stock,damn dude i need just 1.
Awesome job mate
TO VALHALLA! ALL SHINY AND CHROME!!!
Witnessed.
Witness!
Nice Mad Max reference! Fits right in!!
Awesome build mate, old school engineering yu guys are pure inspiration
I just bought a civic and i've been wanting to do an engine swap. Can I have that one? :)
That is a BEAUTIFUL work of ART . AMAZING !!! 💪💪💪
All show, no go... Having dyno'd a more than a few Detroit's in my time, I didn't here the dyno even put a load on the thing. Where's the smoke? It's not likely they have a dyno that could test to 3000 HP in the first place. It's a noisy fantasy show piece.. Pretty yes, but just trucker porn...
not to mention 3000hp from a diesel that big with that many blowers and nitro is not all that impressive, ive seen engines a 3rd that size with alot less boost and no nitro make up to 2500hp
Josh LaDue You must not know much about 2 stroke diesels...the blowers on these engines aren't there to supply boost, they're there to scavenge the cylinders. You also must not know much about show pieces. I seriously doubt he really cares how much power it makes. It's more about the fact that he hand-built it and it starts and runs.
The blowers were originally intended to just scavenge. But there are drive gear ratio changes, and blowers with different volumes per revolution to consider that would do more than scavenge...
more money than brains
U guys knocking this are jealous. That’s an engineering marvel. Appreciate the work.
I love it. That much horsepower is equivalent to the combined power of the 2 turboshaft engines of a mil mi 24 helicopter. I really admire what you have done, good job.
I note that Mike wasn't wearing ear muffs. I would guess his ears would be ringing for a week afterwards
For those of you commenting about the butterfly valves not affecting RPMS, this is not a gas, but a diesel engine. RPM and power output is controlled by the injector pump. At idle, the motor uses little air and therefore closing the butterfly valves will have no effect. Why the butterfly valves in the first place? Search youtube for runaway diesel motor. The butterfly valves will stop that motor in runaway condition.
I wish I could build stuff like that...
DUDE. Youre my hero! That is THE most insane piece of machinery Ive ever seen.
i need that in my PRIUS
In this dyno test vid it appears that the butterflies on the eight visible air intakes are unrelated to engine rpm. They are nearly wide open with the engine at idle and are not synchronized. I suspect that the gingerbread on top, while cool looking, is unrelated to the actual fuel/air supply and probably are just idler pullies with no impellers inside the blower cases. He walks to the right side and reaches into the center area to rev the engine by hand and again the butterflies don't move until he reaches up and closes then opens them again with no change in rpm. The functional blowers and injectors must be hidden beneath all the eye candy. I would love more technical info and less carnival side show barker from Mr. Harrah. Amazing creation!
It would seem that way, though I believe you may be mistaken. He’s using drag racing components. At the very front of the intake cowls are first a set of secondary butterflies. These can be used to manually trim total air volume to match the atmosphere (density, humidity, barometric pressure all factors). Below the blowers there is a primary set of throttle bodies and injectors that actively control throttle air/fuel mixture and intake. These engines are essentially massive air pumps, the air fuel mixture and total volume takes a lot of fine tuning. Hope that makes sense.
That was no dyno pull. I want to see a screen that says the HP or some proof other than what he says. It's a cool thing to look at but everything is bogus.
This could only happen in Lake Havasu City, AZ. It is a hot rodding gear headed engine paradise there.
This really puts into perspective just how long this thing took to build
I agree with Burner. No whine and no change in engine rpm's when adjusting butterflies- not good.
It's a diesel. Rpm is controlled by fuel not air.
so many moving parts. just amazing.
It was built out off wood first as a mock up before an aluminum intake was constructed. Before you jump n call it fake, look it up. And gas mileage? It's diesel fuel not gas. That's all. Thanks!
Gas and diesels are measured the same in fuel mileage do you go to a diesel station or a gas station
For those who think the blowers are not functional because the butterflys are staying open, Detroit's like most diesels are controlled by fuel delivery not air. And its a 2 stoke diesel the blowers main purpose is for scavenging air pressure to clear exhaust gases. So yes those BLOWERS are very much funtional.
It takes what, about 1000 hp to turn those blowers?? haha awesome
More than that. It take 150 to turn the blower on a hellcat. And there's only one of those
and there all driven off that 1 belt of the crank apparently...
Well it takes 750 horsepower to turn the supercharger on a top fuel dragster
As a two-stroke diesel engine cannot naturally aspirate (draw in) intake air, a blower is necessary to provide sufficient air to scavenge exhaust gasses from the cylinders and support combustion. Later high-performance versions were available with turbochargers, and turbochargers with intercooling, the turbochargers discharging into the Roots blower intake. Hence why a two stoke diesel with a blower is still considered a naturally aspirated engine it will not run without a blower unless it has
must have cost a whole lotta money
7million dollar build
omg what's that beautiful MUSIC? The only thing which is beeter than that hell of a motor is the music from 5:10. Great job, great sound, great tune. Respect.
This looks like some sort of promotional Gimmick to me. I Don't believe all the blowers are operational. You can't hear the blower whine and it sounds like an NA engine.
The blower belts appear to come through the inlet manifold that the blowers are supposedly pressureising. Also at one point he shuts the butterflies on the bug catchers and the engine dosen't change note a bit. If it were running through them then closing them would be noticeable as even at idle this thing would be pulling a lot of air in being a diesel. The original V24's had turbos which would make a lot more sense and be infinately cheaper and easier to build than this thing. Another reason I have severe reservations about the legitimacy of this thing.
Are there any other vids of this thing in action? Until I see something else that allays my suspicions, I'm calling this one FAKE.
Well, it is a Detroit 24v71 which is automatically a dual biturbo twin supercharged engine at around 1800 horse, designed to have that horse consistently at full rpm for hours straight, they probably are functional, but as this vehicle will not run without at least two forms of forced induction, and is two 12 cylinders butted together to make 24 ...it's prolly real, just useless, and a waist, detroits use old tech, a cummins qsk50 16 cyl with no supercharges, just dual biturbo, can create 2700 hp straight from cummins, and with the right cummins pull list, can produce what you want
Dustin Hughes
Def a huge waste.
i thought the same , no change in note when those butterflies were shut
MICHAEL CHEEVERS
It's nothing but a large useless piece of waste money.
I laugh at people building high dollar engines and don't bother with a air filter.
Junk won't last long at all
Ikr and you can tell about those blowers he pulled them shut and it did NOTHING to it, wtf???
If you look this up it really does make 3000+ hp it's now in a hot rod Pete it really is a 24 cylinder Detroit mainly they're used for generators hence the low rpms and all those blowers work just not at full potential. I'd go with the old school driven off the crank from the back gear driven blower. This is pretty cool though that they made it work.
No diesel knock and next to zero smoke, and that's just straight headers. MmmHmm... that on a dyno bogged down would of turned that room into a black toxic midnight.
I too was questioning the lack of diesel smoke
Let me ask u a question do u know what DEF is and do u know what is for?
Jacob Moore DEF is diesel Exhaust Fluid and a small stream is sprayed into the exhaust stream. The chemicals break down hydrocarbons coming out of the exhaust to reduce emissions. My cascadia had a def res. and when pulled in for random emissions test in NJ 0.0 on emissions test from what the paper said. I doubt its that little but either way I passed.
Very good lol I was talking to Eric Brunhammer but ya they didn't do it to reduce pollution I don't care what anybody says they just tried to find something to make more money on and its good for pollution but its not how they see it
If you knew shit you would know that if your diesel is knocking you'd better get that shit checked out. The lack of smoke is a little strange though.
thats impressive 3400 hp from a 24v71 a 12v71 that makes 900 hp is impressive so you got a beast i love those old detroits i hope what ever u run it in it whips the competion
I'd love to see this in a truck and moving....
Neil Weyer there is literally a video of this engine in a semi
Its in a semi that just sold for 12million :o
@Possumlivingdotcom In short, a 2-stroke won't run without a blower. The piston uncovers the intake ports at the bottom of its travel. In a Detroit Diesel, which does have a cam that drives exhaust valves in the head, this is also when the exhaust valves are open, so the blower also pushes the exhaust gasses out to scavenge the cylinder. On these engines, this is considered to be naturally aspirated. You can turbocharge them, and GM did build factory turbo Detroits. But they still have a blower.
where is the truck its in........
From what i have been able to find it runs at about 2250 rpm (unofficially). that being said T=5252*HP/RPM so 5252*3424=17982848. that divided by 2250 =7992 lb of braking torque.
did I miss something but thought I counted 9 bds blowers?
@@tripplefives1402 watching the video if you look close he has belts running behind the blowers also ??? The belts run through the wooden intake manifold he built so how can any vacuum or pressure possibly be built to feed the engine . . Don't get me wrong it is a magnificent piece to look at and i credit him for his workmanship but .... I think the blowers on top as nice as they look are all show and no go . I may very well be wrong and if i am please correct me ,, looking at it i would think the intake would need to be sealed .
@@tripplefives1402 Sorry Sir . Yes I do see the Whipple blowers . 100% the screw blowers are sealed to the Whipple blowers I see that . What I don't understand is how the entire manifold is sealed with belts running through it . ??????
None of the 12 superchargers on this engine are of the Whipple type. These are all roots type superchargers. If you know the difference you can have a cookie. Also, this is all show and no go. The bling on top just spins empty blower housings. If they were all functional, the one blower belt that drives them would not be nearly adequate enough and likely break upon start up.
And the wooden intake manifold/air scoop is still there, albeit covered in stainless sheet stock.
This is amazing to look at but it's all smoke and mirrors.
They had twin chargers in the motor factory. So2 motors is 4 chargers then he added 8 making 12
@@turbo1438 The wood intake manifold is a template for the shop that built the custom aluminum manifold. If you had of read the magazine article you would have known this.
Bro.... 😳🤯 I've watched this like 6 times. Amazing
that thing can maybe power a boat
the best diesel engine i ever seen before i love it
I only seem to count 9 superchargers. Unless this mysteriously is compound boost + N2o which is ridiculous. I say something ain't right here.
@@tripplefives1402 looks like show and hiding real blowers under shiny stuff,we had v12 in most offload scrapers,something is all show
@@tripplefives1402 six 15 cummins with electronic turbo maybe , Cat Acert twin turbo maybe 45, Overhauled and used 2 stroke Detroit engine for a long time,they have no torque until they started make the 92 series with turbo,this is why they earned the reputation of gutless wonders in trucks, the roots blower from the factory turns 2 to 1 on crank speed so when they turn 3300 rpm you here the blower screaming at near 7000, the straight lobe 53 series is even louder ! We even had a 110 series that ran a rock crusher, that is 110 cubic inch per cylinder ! Very few people left that can setup the top end injector rack
@@tripplefives1402 He spent $7 million to build the engine and truck, he recently sold the complete truck at auction for $12 million. I'm just surprised that Jay Leno didn't buy it.
that's a working piece of beautiful art
Stick that engine in a truck and hit the quarter mile with it, see how fast that engine can push a truck.
Now it's in a Peterbilt truck dude
My grandaddy said they had a 24V71 in a grinder or some other stationary equipment. After they had it a couple of months it broke the crankshaft and cracked the block around the middle flange. It was the costliest rebuild that company had ever faced.
when you let the stream chat make a beamng car
this is absolutly insane
It sucks that this is all show. Those blowers don't work. You can't pressurize the manifold and have holes for blower belts. NONE of the butterflies work with the engine. And you can see that when he flips them open and closed. And it is definitely two 12cyl engines connected via shaft and not a single 24 cup engine. The list goes on and on. Looks cool. But any real gear head is going to walk as soon as they see the bullshit. But whatever floats his boat. It's his dollars and credibility.
+kousinkoolaid I'm all on your side! A couple of other things that looks strange:
Seems to me that 3400 and-a-bit diesel HP's coming out of those short pipes would generate some serious black smoke. I see none of that...
I KNOW for a fact that 650 HP in a somewhat big engine (27L RR V12) generates a lot of heat. Should be one mother of a cooling system for that beast. Where is that?
But then again, I've never played with a Detroit Diesel so what do I know.
And absolutely everything is chrome plated and/or polished, so it just have to be real based on that thing alone?
Right?
NO
+Marcus Etelhag and the moment he flipped them butterflies open on the injector hats that engine should have reved to the moon there was no change in teh rpms
+kousinkoolaid Dude, it's a diesel, of course the butterflies don't work.. lol Diesels don't throttle the air, they throttle speed with fuel. Also, Detroits can be bolted together to form larger modular engines. A 12v71 is two 6v71s bolted together, for eg. So you could conceivably bolt 4 6v71s together and make a 24v71? lol
+AmericanThunder you know. I hadn't even considered that. I know jack about diesels really.
Exactly. If it was a diesel it would generate a coal plant because they would have to be running some crazy as fuck amounts of fuel into it to get it to run properly and match the boost those blowers are making. It blew white smoke on startup which a diesel doesn't do. It can't be a diesel cause it doesn't act like a diesel would.
Love Mike's enthusiasm.. I would be the same way if I was there to see that beast of an engine in person lol
Put the Outgoing shaft to the planet Earth Then we can spin the whole world! :D
Still doesn't beat a 16v645,with 2 turbo chargers,making 4500 hp@1050 rpm.
@TheDeiselDeck - definately going to have to check out the pictures. Will it be ready for cruisin' the coast this October?
@Next_Mad_Max_Film_Crew
+Ruohong Zhao Shame the cameraman has Parkinson's Disease. Why is it so hard to hold a camera steady?
yeahh
+MaxCruise73
It's the excitement the excitement -- it's all in the excitement !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
these guys have a manhood problem,so lets build a fake engine and look ,ans act badass,
Not a huge fan of the Detroit 2 stroke but that is AWESOME!!!! Keep the vids of the progress coming!!!
A top fuel funny car makes twice that amount of HP with one blower. :-)
Lol nowhere near the power
While it doesnt matter, it is true. They make around 7-8 thousand horsepower but they use nitromethane fuel.
Yeah those run nitromethane, and only last one run so...
The torque this thing makes, it doesnt matter. You could hook up the moon and pull it.
9 years later I still haven't seen this mighty semi truck this motor is suppose to go into.
I've been wondering the same thing
They haven't found a truck worthy of it
MURICA
@magna8656 The screws in these blowers are clearly seen @6:49. The only problem that I am having with this setup is that I think that it would require about 1600 hp to drive the eight blowers on top via the common shaft down the middle of the manifold and I only see one belt assigned to that task. Even if the blowers were really under-driven, I have my doubts about one belt doing the job even with a stock sub-2400 rpm redline.
I'm glad someone else noticed,this thing is a joke, generally when you Dyno test an engine it changes tone when load it, as for the blowers 2 of 3 on the front have what maybe 6 teeth of contact with the cogbelt, not much power needed there , interesting craftsmanship, but this level of power can be achieved by a 3406 or kt 1150 with a single turbo, added bonus you could close a hood and not be so obnoxious, even GM 2 strokes had these things called mufflers
Watch the beard and them tooth belts!!! XD
The 12V71 detroit was 750 hp at factory settings that is after allison took control of Detroit. You could set set a cup of coffee on the fender of a 359 peterbilt and not even see a ripple in the cup it ran so smooth. This particle truck had a 8in. Longer hood and if you find on the V12 was the correct engine. They had a 15 speed or a 5 and 4 Spicer or fuller.
Nobody:
Detroit: v24 engine
It was an amazing project, that's me with the cane.
how much torque?
+Sodiumreactor all of it
+Sodiumreactor all of it
+Sodiumreactor i bet 5000
would probably be even more than that, I saw V8 diesels make 2,000hp and near 5,000 pound feet of torque, my guess would be closer to 7,500.
nice i want that v8 for my truck
It will be an understatement to say hear that kitty meowing or roaring. That's a Godly Beast Swearing out loud
He says it has 12 blowers I only count 8.
recount
+Sean Mcgrath I did, I see three on each side and two on the top, with something between the two on the top, where the heck are they hiding?
+C Smith The three real 8v71 blowers that are under that contraption! 2 cycle Detroits need the blowers in order to run, and then you have the 9 on top for show.
Steven Strimling Actually that Detroit V24 has 4 blowers in the valley. There are 8 on the top of the engine. Look at pictures and you will see there is no blower in the center of the massive manifold. The top blowers are set up as 3 on the left, 3 on the right, and 2 in the center. It does have 12 blowers just not in the way you thought. The 4 in the valley are 6-71 units, not 8-71 like you are most likely thinking.
You're right, I saw them and assumed there were 3, not 4. Still the others on the plenum are for show.
Awesome engine, a lot quieter than imagined.
fake....supercharger belts go thru the intake manifold which would be impossible to build pressure which is what superchargers are for
Exactly what i`ve noticed as well. And it seems the blower housings is "empty". Don`t see any rotors.
hiposho68 The blower driveshaft could have a seal (like a rear main seal) and then that huge aluminum intake can have pressurized chambers. Perhaps.
Johnathan n The huge "aluminium" intake is made from wood, if you watch the video. So doubt it
Carsten C. The wood was for measuring pullys, hoses, blower orientation etc. You don't actually think there's wood in it do you?
***** Well i really don`t know what to think of it. Of cause it seems unlogical if the intake were made from wood. But here`s some doubts about it.
Why don`t you see the material from wich the intake is fabricated in the video. Perhaps cause the wood really is a template, and some cnc shop has fabricated the parts for the intake...
At 7.23 in the video. The "metal" surface of the intake seems fake. Why are there printing on it, looks like some kinda foil/dynamat was put on.
The hole in the end of the manifold. You can see how thick the material is, in that hole. Seem strange to fabricate the manifold in such thick material. it would be quite heavy.
The thickness look very similar to those wooden plates they built the template of. And look at all the screws on the egdes, Id have the parts welded together.
And why go all tha trouble of making a template. Surely it would be possible to measure your way out, and have it cnc cut from those mesurements.
Furthermore as other mentioned. Doesn`t seem to be that blower sound, that along with the slots for the pulley belts, wich in no way can hold the charging pressure. And perhaps that i find it doubtfull that a single belt from the crankshaft, can manage to drive 6 fully charging blowers, without ripping.
So many things seems sketchy about this, but on the other hand. Its a hell of a lot work to do for something fake.. I really don´t know what to believe.
Any update on the how the project is going?
my vtec has more hp than that
+Johan Axelsson You're fucking disabled.
NoiceRoice ajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajaja
NoiceRoice well my vtec has more power than ur piece of shit im sure of it
That is the most disgustingly beautiful thing i have ever seen
fabulous! to take an idea and see it through, like all the way to grumping out horses surely takes a lot-DETROIT RULES-m548 fan....
holly smoke. what is the music steel cowboy? this incarnation still lives? GREAT!!!
Would love to see that in a truck at Rodeo de Camion 2013! To show what it can do against the c15s there.