The throttle response on a two-stroke is way quicker than your than grandads Cummins or claterpiller. No better diesel that I know of. There are still a bunch out there making music.
Used to work on the 6L71 engines on the old Flxible transit buses and 4L71 as found in the Coast Guard’s motor surfboat when I was active duty Coast Guard.
I had alot of help from Baldur on the ECU setup. I won't even pretend to know how all of that works. I'll take 25% of the credit for this thing actually running.
I've been following Wayne (Ol' 2Stroker) for several years now, and I watched all the build videos when he and Jason were first getting the common rail set up and working correctly. It's amazing how quick he can shift that modded 13 speed!😲 It sounds like a first gen Honda 750-4 when it's up on the pipe!🤣 Curious to see what he does with the 12V-71 when he gets it stuffed in there!
@@jlo13800 Now that, you would have to ask Jason, or Wayne (Ol' 2stroker). From what I've gathered, it uses a 'by-pass' type system that actually goes around the supercharger, so it doesn't blow the supercharger apart once it's reached maximum displacement.
@@barryphillips7327 you weren’t even the slightest exaggerating. That’s like back 40 years ago when I was a teen Art Arfons built the most amazing multi engine tracker pulling machine.
Jason Douglas has an awesome shop just south of STL and down the Street from me that does amazing work with Volkswagen vans and I love hear that truck rolling down the street.
It’s awesome I was about to post how cool it would be if someone built up an old school twin supercharged twin turbo charged Detroit 12V71TTA V-12. I’ve always loved the the sound of those old 2 stroke Detroit V8’s and V12’s. So unique, and you knew them when you heard them back in the day.
@@ruxoneto6560 we also had a lot of equipment in my family’s company with the Detroit 12V92 and 16V92. They were always my absolute favorite sounding with straight pipes.
I love how some guys still love that motor and so do I cause my dad worked on them with Cummins and Mack and love hearing the SCREAMIN DEMONS IN THEM and BEST EVER SOUND OVER ALL MOTORS OUT THERE💪💪💪🥇🥇🥇🏆🏆🏆🍺🍺🍺Can't wait to hear the V12 now
I was standing there when you took those videos of him revving it. Came over and looked at your rigs too. Sucks they canceled the sled pull I wanted to see what those tracks could do.
First diesel I drove had a Detroit Diesel 6v53 for a farmer and the last one is a 3406 Cat built B4 emissions were thought of . I loved that truck and floating the gears
Thanks for taking the time to check out such an awesome old truck. Jason Douglas has made something really cool with the Crusty Fat Cab. I follow him and Wayne at Ol2Stroker, I have met both guys numerous times and they are both great guys. Jason is like a mad scientist, I can’t wait to see the V12 version. Looking forward to seeing you and Brutus at Onaway in May 24. Thanks Again, Bruce.
I'm not exactly a diesel guy, big block GM man, specifically Chevy rat motors, but I have always considered old Detroit two strokers to be the most reliable, bad ass diesel engines ever! 💯👍🇺🇲
I had the pleasure of working at Detroit Diesel Remanufacturing Central from the mid 90's to early 00's. I will never forget that 2-stroke diesel sound coming out of the 8 dyno rooms.
We had air starters for the 2cycle inline 12 opposed piston Fairbanks-Morse diesels and the GM V8 service generators onboard Coast Guard Cutter Hamilton WHEC715, and for the V18 ALCO 4cycle diesels onboard Coast Guard Cutter Spencer WMEC905. And we had air starters on the 6L72 Detroits in the Flexible transit buses for Broward County Transit in Ft Lauderdale, Florida.
so what I'm hearing is If you uprate the stock blower the stock turbo sandwich a bit more fuel and you are doubling your horsepower! I'm a bit jealous ! well done!
Adapt this tech to a 16v149 and you are unstoppable. It makes 1,060 hp stock. You could get 6k easily with the electronic common rail and bigger turbos. Also, if you haven't already, extend the intake ports up so that way you can get boost into the cylinder after the exhaust valves close.
I’m obsessed with 2 stroke diesels, I’ve been playing around in my garage making a 2 stroke diesel that doesn’t require a blower, I want to set a specific output record for NA diesel engines. Currently the Mercedes Benz OM 60x series is the highest output NA I’ve found, the 2.0 liter OM 604 puts out a tad under 100hp and therefore sets the bar at 50hp/ liter for NA diesel. Compared to NA spark 4 cycle engines on race gas (not alcohol) around 380hp/liter. I could be off on the gas record, many small 50cc engines could exceed that. I know of a 120cc compound turbo Honda ct110 that makes 60hp which would be 550hp/liter for turbo engines.
Playing around... you understand that 2-stroke engines require some sort of pressure difference for scavenging, whereas a 4 stroke doesn't right? There are good reasons as to why these engines were unsuccessful. Your only option with a diesel is using exhaust pulse, since crankcase scavenging like on the 2-stroke gasoline engines is not possible. The only engine that worked to some degree with that concept is the Crossley HST Vee 8. If you understand the physics then you'll also understand that the concept is only suited to engines that work at a very small rpm range, and will never achieve a high specific output.
You are spot in citing the OM604 having the highest specific output but in standard form it makes 94hp in 2.2liter form. But don't forget that Mercedes mainly increased the output through engine speed, not torque. These engines make their maximum power (in standard from ) at 5000rpm, which is unparalleled for this category of engine. Since diesel combustion is inherently slower than gasoline, it's not really an option to increase the engine speed much further as smoke increases sharply (and efficiency decreases).
The NA petrol record is 434hp/ltr by the way. One of the 2010 formula 1 V8's got it at 21k rpm but that was only testing, wasn't race legal due to 18k rpm limit.
This is magic, the sound, that meaty feeling of being connected to machine, this whole U.S. Trucking Culture is just romantic :) European is just technical, maybe a bit more comfortable but I feel like it has lost its mojo. With Scania being sold to germans it's an end of an era in European trucking - it was the last real manufacturer in my opinion with their V8 sounding magnificent. I used to ride inline 12 liter manual with chipped engine, this sound and overall feeling gave me so much joy it was enough to compensate inconveniences of this tough profession. And I can see this 'europeisation' happening for some time in US with new models of old trucks. How do you guys feel about it? Do you like Cascadia being Mercedes in disguise?
I think the Renault T range is still made for the driver. I absolutely love them, the best modern truck imho. The engine brake still has that good chugging sound and the controls are so nice to use. They still feel like they have some soul left in them. It is kinda cool how quiet and fuel efficient they can make modern trucks but they are definitely losing their soul. It's like driving a gaming computer attached to a 400hp tumble dryer rather than a mechanical diesel engine that chugs and grinds and sputters and feels alive.
@@thechongwolla yeah xD That sound you're describing brings up memories of driving Merc Actros Mp4. It really sounds like lawnomower with constantly breaking DPF system and no torque.
A real hot rod truck and its a Jimmy with a Jimmy 8v92. I just love 1948-50 GMC 900 series. So good looking and they are so low they looked like a chopped 1950 Mercury
Yep,just like the Rebel lounge in youngstown ohio on a sunday afternoon,all the reefer big dogs would be headed east on i80 for the sunday hunts point 500
Probably the usual for a Detroit, about 2500-3000. It's dual overhead cam and two stroke which gives it the unique sound which makes it seem like it's turning 8000+ RPM.
I've been following Wayne ole2stroker for a couple of years now his channel is cool and he's funny and Ive seen that gmc at the truck pulls in Farmington Missouri a few years back it was cool
How about a Detroit Diesel build off between Bruce, Tim Gentry and Wayne. My money is on Wayne. I was just watching Wayne latest video until TH-cam said Bruce had a new one out.
What a an absolute beast! The description of what is under the hood lost me after the first couple of sentences BUT what a great racer this is and the amazing work that has gone into it her rebuild! Thanks for this guys and keep up the great work, love this great sound too!
Wow that's absolutely awesome. One of the trucks I first learned to drive a semi in was a Freightliner conventional with an 8v71 and a 13speed road ranger... Where does it redline? How much boost is he making and what kind of 1/4 mile time and speeds is it turning?
I don’t know anything about semis let alone diesels but listening and watching that truck start up and take off and run left a smile on my from ear to ear! What is 2 step or 2 stage you were talking about when he started the engine up? ✌🏽🇺🇸🙏
That boy snatching gears like there is no tomorrow. That’s amazing
Hahaha yup how you drive them Ole 2 strokes gotta slam your hand in the door before you drive (so you're pissed off at it)
Lol ... So true.
The throttle response on a two-stroke is way quicker than your than grandads Cummins or claterpiller. No better diesel that I know of. There are still a bunch out there making music.
Used to work on the 6L71 engines on the old Flxible transit buses and 4L71 as found in the Coast Guard’s motor surfboat when I was active duty Coast Guard.
Ese camión es una pasada 😍👍
That guy that built that is a genius. That has some serious technology in that sleeper truck. That is cool.
Apparently, it was him & someone called "Jason".
What a wild build! Dude even figured out the ECU mating himself! What a legend!!
I had alot of help from Baldur on the ECU setup. I won't even pretend to know how all of that works. I'll take 25% of the credit for this thing actually running.
I've been following Wayne (Ol' 2Stroker) for several years now, and I watched all the build videos when he and Jason were first getting the common rail set up and working correctly. It's amazing how quick he can shift that modded 13 speed!😲 It sounds like a first gen Honda 750-4 when it's up on the pipe!🤣 Curious to see what he does with the 12V-71 when he gets it stuffed in there!
8v92
How many PSI of turbo boost does this 8v92 2 stroke need???
@@jlo13800 Now that, you would have to ask Jason, or Wayne (Ol' 2stroker). From what I've gathered, it uses a 'by-pass' type system that actually goes around the supercharger, so it doesn't blow the supercharger apart once it's reached maximum displacement.
Amazing taking an engine that dates back to 1938and making it competitive today thanks to an entire new modern fuel system 👍☝️👌. What a bad ass truck!
Four bolt mains are standard on diesels and the blocks are built for 18:1 compression
@@BjarneLinetsky i got a silver 8v92 2 stroke not sure if its the same block as this
Anybody that knows anything about anything, knows that this is the coolest thing in the diesel industry
Wayne is great. One of my favourite TH-camrs. Straight up truck loving man. No gimmicks, just trucks.
Perfect amount of shine and rust. That Ol GMC is so cool
That’s one hell of a truck and motor Jason had in that truck. Unbelievable job on all the custom mechanical work he did.
Look up the ''Bandag Bullet, two Detroit V8 joined together with Nos 3000hp SMOKES the Rear tires like you would Not Believe!!
@@barryphillips7327 you weren’t even the slightest exaggerating. That’s like back 40 years ago when I was a teen Art Arfons built the most amazing multi engine tracker pulling machine.
That's one of the coolest 2-stroke Detroit projects I've ever seen!
Look up General Lee truck pull. That 8v-71 is insane.
@@JimmyChambers-sc9oc I saw it and it most definitely is insane.
Jason Douglas has an awesome shop just south of STL and down the Street from me that does amazing work with Volkswagen vans and I love hear that truck rolling down the street.
Awesome to see that there's still smart people out there pushing the limits of their dreams & imagination. 💪
I will get this to put in a museum and look at it for hours..this is a hell of a masterpiece from engine to everything..what a cool truck here
It’s awesome I was about to post how cool it would be if someone built up an old school twin supercharged twin turbo charged Detroit 12V71TTA V-12. I’ve always loved the the sound of those old 2 stroke Detroit V8’s and V12’s. So unique, and you knew them when you heard them back in the day.
Detroit made them v-12-71tta , with bypass blowers & intercooler
@@ruxoneto6560 we also had a lot of equipment in my family’s company with the Detroit 12V92 and 16V92. They were always my absolute favorite sounding with straight pipes.
I love how some guys still love that motor and so do I cause my dad worked on them with Cummins and Mack and love hearing the SCREAMIN DEMONS IN THEM and BEST EVER SOUND OVER ALL MOTORS OUT THERE💪💪💪🥇🥇🥇🏆🏆🏆🍺🍺🍺Can't wait to hear the V12 now
God I love a Detroit two stroke. Music to my ears...
So hard to find one still running around in the wild anymore. But once in awhile, my ears perk up, and my mind sez, "Oh yeah!"
hell yeah its cool to see you share old2stroker! he is one of my fav youtubers!
Same here! Love that guy!
Bring on the subscribers, wanye deserves all the subs
Great classic. That's the picture in the dictionary if you look up Beast Mode there's that truck right there
❤❤❤❤❤ great !
I was standing there when you took those videos of him revving it. Came over and looked at your rigs too. Sucks they canceled the sled pull I wanted to see what those tracks could do.
First diesel I drove had a Detroit Diesel 6v53 for a farmer and the last one is a 3406 Cat built B4 emissions were thought of . I loved that truck and floating the gears
Thanks for taking the time to check out such an awesome old truck. Jason Douglas has made something really cool with the Crusty Fat Cab. I follow him and Wayne at Ol2Stroker, I have met both guys numerous times and they are both great guys. Jason is like a mad scientist, I can’t wait to see the V12 version. Looking forward to seeing you and Brutus at Onaway in May 24. Thanks Again, Bruce.
This is unbelievable. He’s taking the Detroit to a whole Nother level.
Congratulations on workmanship and knowledge on your truck it looks awesome ,I’m sure it sounds awesome again
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That 2 stroke V8 sounds sick. 👍🏼
I'm not exactly a diesel guy, big block GM man, specifically Chevy rat motors, but I have always considered old Detroit two strokers to be the most reliable, bad ass diesel engines ever! 💯👍🇺🇲
I rode in this truck prior to the common rail set up, it was fast then already!
there is nothing meaner sounding than a 2 stroke Detroit. silver 92 4 life ❤❤
I have a silver 8v92 out back top tinker with. I wonder how much turbo boost (psi0 this 2000+ hp 2 stroker is making?
@jlo13800 silver92 has a super charger with turbo on top and you can get about 45psi or so out of a factory set up
@jlo13800 this thing probably running 70
@@jackmeoffer9334 45 psi on a arctic cat 858 snowmobile would be insane
@@jackmeoffer9334 70 psi is this is what seen at the intake ports?
First common rail Detroit that style that is an actual RIPPER💪 the build videos of this thing are definitely worth watching ❤❤
I had the pleasure of working at Detroit Diesel Remanufacturing Central from the mid 90's to early 00's. I will never forget that 2-stroke diesel sound coming out of the 8 dyno rooms.
I heard the that thing fire at the show and it was amazing. Love the trucks bruce.
Holy cow! I love that SEMI truck. That baby grows like a lion. You seriously hear that 2000HP just idling. Absolutely impressive 👍👍👍👍
Wayne from the Ol2stroker channel is the man.
I agree, it even gets better when he's hanging around with bacon
8v92 2 stroke running castor 927 maxima 2 stroke oil feeding tge bottom end and running e-85
@@johno6963
Wow! That old girl ain’t no slouch. A lot of really powerful trucks there. Quebec, home of the clean air truck races.😳Vive Quebec.👍👍🇨🇦
Thats a badass build with a v8 detroit!!!! I like this type of stuff!!!!
That truck and engine is absolutely awesome!
Very cool two stroke
WOOOW LOVE 2 STROKE DIESEL 🤤
I Love an old school Detroit!
I had two 318 powered trucks in the 80's
Be really cool, if they still exist, if you showed these youngins the start up of an old air start. Coolest sound you will never forget. 👌😉👍💯
Oh man air starters are great!
Air starter motors are still made and sold. They absolutely still exist.
We had air starters for the 2cycle inline 12 opposed piston Fairbanks-Morse diesels and the GM V8 service generators onboard Coast Guard Cutter Hamilton WHEC715, and for the V18 ALCO 4cycle diesels onboard Coast Guard Cutter Spencer WMEC905. And we had air starters on the 6L72 Detroits in the Flexible transit buses for Broward County Transit in Ft Lauderdale, Florida.
Just remember, you still need adequate 24vdc and 12vdc to power up the ecu and other items in order to get the engine to start and stay running.
@@JaguarXJRman Dang... you sure got around back in the day. 👌😁👍
If they ever remade the movie “DUEL”, this bad mutha should be the star!
so what I'm hearing is If you uprate the stock blower the stock turbo sandwich a bit more fuel and you are doubling your horsepower! I'm a bit jealous ! well done!
Adapt this tech to a 16v149 and you are unstoppable. It makes 1,060 hp stock. You could get 6k easily with the electronic common rail and bigger turbos.
Also, if you haven't already, extend the intake ports up so that way you can get boost into the cylinder after the exhaust valves close.
amazing and creative I love original stuff, great job
I’m obsessed with 2 stroke diesels, I’ve been playing around in my garage making a 2 stroke diesel that doesn’t require a blower, I want to set a specific output record for NA diesel engines. Currently the Mercedes Benz OM 60x series is the highest output NA I’ve found, the 2.0 liter OM 604 puts out a tad under 100hp and therefore sets the bar at 50hp/ liter for NA diesel. Compared to NA spark 4 cycle engines on race gas (not alcohol) around 380hp/liter. I could be off on the gas record, many small 50cc engines could exceed that. I know of a 120cc compound turbo Honda ct110 that makes 60hp which would be 550hp/liter for turbo engines.
Playing around... you understand that 2-stroke engines require some sort of pressure difference for scavenging, whereas a 4 stroke doesn't right? There are good reasons as to why these engines were unsuccessful. Your only option with a diesel is using exhaust pulse, since crankcase scavenging like on the 2-stroke gasoline engines is not possible. The only engine that worked to some degree with that concept is the Crossley HST Vee 8. If you understand the physics then you'll also understand that the concept is only suited to engines that work at a very small rpm range, and will never achieve a high specific output.
You are spot in citing the OM604 having the highest specific output but in standard form it makes 94hp in 2.2liter form. But don't forget that Mercedes mainly increased the output through engine speed, not torque. These engines make their maximum power (in standard from ) at 5000rpm, which is unparalleled for this category of engine. Since diesel combustion is inherently slower than gasoline, it's not really an option to increase the engine speed much further as smoke increases sharply (and efficiency decreases).
The NA petrol record is 434hp/ltr by the way.
One of the 2010 formula 1 V8's got it at 21k rpm but that was only testing, wasn't race legal due to 18k rpm limit.
Hell yeah, love that beast!!
This is magic, the sound, that meaty feeling of being connected to machine, this whole U.S. Trucking Culture is just romantic :) European is just technical, maybe a bit more comfortable but I feel like it has lost its mojo. With Scania being sold to germans it's an end of an era in European trucking - it was the last real manufacturer in my opinion with their V8 sounding magnificent. I used to ride inline 12 liter manual with chipped engine, this sound and overall feeling gave me so much joy it was enough to compensate inconveniences of this tough profession.
And I can see this 'europeisation' happening for some time in US with new models of old trucks. How do you guys feel about it? Do you like Cascadia being Mercedes in disguise?
I think the Renault T range is still made for the driver. I absolutely love them, the best modern truck imho. The engine brake still has that good chugging sound and the controls are so nice to use. They still feel like they have some soul left in them.
It is kinda cool how quiet and fuel efficient they can make modern trucks but they are definitely losing their soul. It's like driving a gaming computer attached to a 400hp tumble dryer rather than a mechanical diesel engine that chugs and grinds and sputters and feels alive.
@@thechongwolla yeah xD That sound you're describing brings up memories of driving Merc Actros Mp4. It really sounds like lawnomower with constantly breaking DPF system and no torque.
😎 nothin beats old equipment with modern power.👍
That's far from modern. 😅
A real hot rod truck and its a Jimmy with a Jimmy 8v92. I just love 1948-50 GMC 900 series. So good looking and they are so low they looked like a chopped 1950 Mercury
I was gettin bored of youtube... this truck and its 8v' just gave me a new reason too watch TH-cam again...
Truly the Godzilla of Detroit 2 strokers! New beauty from an old classic!
Yep,just like the Rebel lounge in youngstown ohio on a sunday afternoon,all the reefer big dogs would be headed east on i80 for the sunday hunts point 500
That truck so amazing and the sound 14:27
Love this. amazing work. It's a beautiful thing to be capable and passionate about something.
Hell yeah that thing is sick
I can’t wait to see what the man does with a buzzin dozzzen!
How much rpm does that motor push, it sounds insane
Probably the usual for a Detroit, about 2500-3000. It's dual overhead cam and two stroke which gives it the unique sound which makes it seem like it's turning 8000+ RPM.
@@aperson4713Detroits are not overhead cam I would bet he’s spinning it a little higher than 3k but that’s just speculation
2200 rpm
@@DrRust dual overhead valve I meant. It's a 4v per cylinder engine.
Its way past 3000 rpm
That truck is bad ass I love how it sits and shakes like it's just ready to rip
Nice 2 Stroker Lorry, and also very powerful lorry nice!😎
I've been following Wayne ole2stroker for a couple of years now his channel is cool and he's funny and Ive seen that gmc at the truck pulls in Farmington Missouri a few years back it was cool
That is music to my old mechanic ears what a sweet sound!!!
It was awesome getting to meet you sir and that truck is wicked
Was at the truck show in Joplin but missed seeing you there
How about a Detroit Diesel build off between Bruce, Tim Gentry and Wayne. My money is on Wayne. I was just watching Wayne latest video until TH-cam said Bruce had a new one out.
Wayne hands down!!
Excellent video!!! I watched the build on Ol2Stroker's channel!
The neat factor on this thing is off the charts - I love it!
That self closing hood was a great safety idea! 😂
2m57s in & I already love this! (and that goes for the red buggy in the scenery as wel ❤).... big regards from the Netherlands 🖐️
What a truck! 😮 Amazing work. Beautiful looks and sound. Masterpeace!
So awesome love the old GMC what a great truck nice job thank you for saving automotive history!!
That’s one SICK truck!
That was amazing Detroit Diesel Muscle 💪💯
Sweet Machine looking in from Ireland 🇮🇪
Sounds like a cammed firetruck I love it haha
Sucks that 4 state canceled the pull! Saw your rides yesterday! Looked clean!
Off the shelf marine injectors for the detroit get pretty gnarly so running out of injector options is nutty to me.
He had injectors from back in the day racing 250cc
I’ll be there tomorrow, I’m in Pacific, MO on a 10hr
That was so great to watch and these trucks sounds better than any modern sports cars.
What a an absolute beast!
The description of what is under the hood lost me after the first couple of sentences BUT what a great racer this is and the amazing work that has gone into it her rebuild!
Thanks for this guys and keep up the great work, love this great sound too!
What an absolute ripper! I love it
THAT OL'GIRL GOTS SOME PEP. THATS SSWEEETTT !!!!!!!!! AWESOME CONTENT GUYS. 🤠🤠
That truck is cool af…
Awesome build dude..
Sounds 👌🏼
Crazy build… home built too
From a point of view of a parts changer this dude to me is a genius
Local guy here has a big 12-92 twin turbos big injectors and some other stuff it's a log truck/lowbed truck daily worked
That thing is sick love thar truck
It is too cool for school, eh??
That was a great video, thank you!!
ol2stoker is Wayne from NY and he loves his Detroit diesels
Wicked. Respects from Canada
Amazing!
What a great and unique idea
This is amazing
Such cool content Bruce, nice job saving your video.
amazing engineering
That truck is just plain badass
I love the sound of a Detroit. There is nothing that sounds better
Wow that's absolutely awesome. One of the trucks I first learned to drive a semi in was a Freightliner conventional with an 8v71 and a 13speed road ranger... Where does it redline? How much boost is he making and what kind of 1/4 mile time and speeds is it turning?
Detroit Diesel, love you❤️❤️❤️
What a work of art
That thing is badass!
I don’t know anything about semis let alone diesels but listening and watching that truck start up and take off and run left a smile on my from ear to ear!
What is 2 step or 2 stage you were talking about when he started the engine up?
✌🏽🇺🇸🙏
I gues he talks about the turbo charger, isn't he? I think there are 2-step chargers, like twin- or bi-turbos... 🤔
I like the 1/2” safety cable for if it over chooches and blows the top off