First, thanks fof no music, exhaust pitch is the music wenreal car guys want to hear, finally a real car video.I live an hour East of the Dragon. 318 curves, in 11 miles!!! Very impressive driving, amazing to thank the Cayman was hitting peaks as high as 71 & still couldn't catch-up😲!!!
Thank you very much. The flat 6 symphony philharmonic is all i listen to while driving that car. And yes. That McLaren was sitting at Killboy and it was almost dusk. He asked if i wanted to make a run. I'm fairly quick (10:15 or so from state line to overlook). He turned out to be a local who absolutely crushed that road. I thought I'd be able to keep up, even with a supercar with every advantage a Cayman has. I was wrong. That McLaren has twice my horsepower, twice my torque, same mid-engine layout, better brakes, better aero and seemingly so, a better driver. I'm not slow up there, and he absolutely three corner dusted me. When I agreed to make the run with him, I thought this would be a video of me and a McLaren running the Dragon. Turned out to be a homage to a better driver with a better car showing me how to drive. Other than passing a vehicle in an open stretch, neither of us, regardless of speed, crossed the forbidden mustard. Thanks for watching, and commenting.
Cayman is one of my favourite cars in the world, from it's first launch, regardless of price!!! I saw a GT4 a couple of years ago at the Petit Le Mans at Road Atlanta, it was perfect😁 I don't own anything exotic...but I do have a 350Z, 370Z & a VWR. At one of the ZDAYZ, many years ago, I met the founder/owner of Killboy, on the Dragon, he was driving an EVO, I believe, way back then. He was a pretty cool guy, living an Amazing dream😎!!!
That's Darryl Cannon. A personal friend of mine. He scoots around there with his bikes and his Porsche Macan S. He's a great guy. Follow him on TH-cam. Killboy. Com i believe. I haven't had this Porsche since November of 2019. And that is why the video stopped coming. However, last week I placed an order for a 2022 Porsche Cayman GTS 4.0. I'm very eager to get this car. Manual transmission, and all the goodies. I'm excited. Look for more videos starting in November or December when the GTS hits stateside
Great Run! I'm always a little concerned over meeting a cruiser over the double yellow on a blind decreasing radius turn at 60mph.... Yes, its happen to me more than once. I was lucky it was just a close call as I was hard on the inside of my lane. Still an eye opener. Again, great run.
I am always aware of the dangers this and other roads like it present. A cruiser in my lane is among them. I never push the car harder on a public road than I can safely drive it and stop it. But sometimes others do, and that's the risk we take when we use public roads to fill our itch for driving spiritedly. There are no trophies given on Tail of the Dragon, so my hope is that while the two drivers in this video were certainly driving more aggressively than most, the viewers come away knowing neither driver was concerned more with speed than safety. Thanks so much for the comment and Happy Easter.
@@caymanchronicles4753 - started driving the dragon in 2005. I’ve seen it go bad for cars & bikes but usually bikes. The worst was when emergency personnel were holding up sheets on the side of the road to block the view of something/someone. That’s was about 5 miles past Fontana Village on SR 28 towards Deals Gap. They had the road closed due to that accident. It was bad. I presume a fatality(s). Be safe & enjoy.
great driving, fantastic video, keeping it real thank you. that McLaren visibly has ton of advantage over u out of corners, maybe also better tires? swap the drivers and i think u would be just as faster..
The driver of the McLaren is extremely talented. He also didn't cross the double yellow (mustard) at all. That car is amazing. I loved this Porsche, but that McLaren has a lot of the same advantages (mid-engine, phenomenal steering and braking, great balance) as well as twice the horsepower and torque and an equally talented driver. I can hang with almost any car and driver combo on this road. Not this one. Thank you for the comments and enjoy driving safely and with spirit
No small feat. Well done!!!! I don't drive anything near this. Would I be wrong to wonder what a gear lower would have been like. I've come to learn that lugging is NOT a good thing ever. That guy with the surfboard cut more lanes than you boys.
@@autonomousindividual7780I have to be in 2nd gear on almost all turns. The Cayman is a great car but it lacks torque and there must be 4000rpm or more to hit the power band. Always a gear down
The speed was off, as it was kept track by GPS on my phone. And right turns on public roads will always be higher G forces as the turn goes away from the oncoming lane
@@caymanchronicles4753 huh, you mean bc of the crown of the road? I thought the g sensor was rotated off kilter or something bc you dont look slower on the left handers. Never thought about the roads being off camber for left hand turns. And you prolly dont need accurate speeds posted for us to see haha
@@justwannasharevideo1058 actually, what I'm saying is since the right hand turns, regardless of camber (although most are positive camber), turn away from oncoming traffic rather than towards it and you can also cut the mayo (shoulder) and keep speed, your right hand turns will carry more speed and produce higher G forces. It's a "safer" environment than a left on a public road where there's oncoming traffic on your left.
As a regular to TOTD, I'm aware that people commute through US129. When it was safe, the McLaren passed a slow vehicle, and where it wasn't, we patiently waited for the truck to pull over. Thanks for the compliment, and I'll tell ya that the McLaren's driver was amazing as was his car. Very few get 2 to 3 corners ahead of me on this road, and he sorta dusted me in areas. Also without crossing the center double yellow.
I'm on dying Federal 595 RSRRs. 245/35/19 front and 275/35/19 rear. The only mod other than GT4 front fascia and wing and color change wrap is a Fabspeed Valvetronic exhaust. The only mod I concentrate on is driver mod. The rest of the car is stock Cayman S
Cayman just needs to stay in 2nd gear all day. They have such long gear ratios. It’s sad how porsche neutered the Cayman. Test drove one before I bought my Supra. I really like the Cayman too. If porsche gave it close gear ratios, bye bye 911.😂
Watched your video right before I took my 911 up to TOD. I just got back.... Your video is more impressive NOW... Video cant capture how fast into the corners you throw your car when you are driving aggressive.
Thank you!! Very kind of you to say! I'll agree that the video doesn't truly capture the G forces and the narrow lanes and how precise you must be to drive this aggressively, yet safely, on such a dangerous road. And how fast those sharp turns come up on you, and how relentless they are, one after another after another. I hope you had a blast in your 911!!
@@caymanchronicles4753 Im SOOOO unproductive! I keep watching our videos. I was fighting the urge to shift to 3rd vs winding out 2nd. Chasing my buddies E55 was fun... We were fairly equal given his HP advantage but the 911's lighter weight and handling. I'll be going back...
Winding out second in the Cayman S is 82mph. On TOD, I usually short shift at 65 so I can use downshifting to aid the brakes in slowing down. But this McLaren had me in horsepower 2 to 1. Torque 3 to 1. Also the Cayman usually has engine placement as an advantage. But not so here. McLaren is mid engine. I had to Rev out second many times which put strain on the brakes. I think what I was most satisfied with in this run was the fact that we never crossed or touched a yellow the whole adventure. Chasing an E55 must have been a blast!!
@@caymanchronicles4753 It was! the Yellow Line Bandits are everywhere....They are playing with FIRE! Unless you see the other side you better assume someone is coming.... And you better hope that dude isnt over the line...Im gonna post something later this week from my trip.
First, thanks fof no music, exhaust pitch is the music wenreal car guys want to hear, finally a real car video.I live an hour East of the Dragon. 318 curves, in 11 miles!!! Very impressive driving, amazing to thank the Cayman was hitting peaks as high as 71 & still couldn't catch-up😲!!!
Thank you very much. The flat 6 symphony philharmonic is all i listen to while driving that car. And yes. That McLaren was sitting at Killboy and it was almost dusk. He asked if i wanted to make a run. I'm fairly quick (10:15 or so from state line to overlook). He turned out to be a local who absolutely crushed that road. I thought I'd be able to keep up, even with a supercar with every advantage a Cayman has. I was wrong. That McLaren has twice my horsepower, twice my torque, same mid-engine layout, better brakes, better aero and seemingly so, a better driver. I'm not slow up there, and he absolutely three corner dusted me. When I agreed to make the run with him, I thought this would be a video of me and a McLaren running the Dragon. Turned out to be a homage to a better driver with a better car showing me how to drive. Other than passing a vehicle in an open stretch, neither of us, regardless of speed, crossed the forbidden mustard. Thanks for watching, and commenting.
This makes me miss my trip to here in aw11 mr2.
Those cars are unreal fun!!
Great driving
Thank you very much! That McLaren driver was top notch. Very few I can't run down. He was definitely one of them!
Be down there in three weeks with my cayman. Cant wait
How was it? Taking my Cayman down this week
Cayman is one of my favourite cars in the world, from it's first launch, regardless of price!!! I saw a GT4 a couple of years ago at the Petit Le Mans at Road Atlanta, it was perfect😁 I don't own anything exotic...but I do have a 350Z, 370Z & a VWR. At one of the ZDAYZ, many years ago, I met the founder/owner of Killboy, on the Dragon, he was driving an EVO, I believe, way back then. He was a pretty cool guy, living an Amazing dream😎!!!
That's Darryl Cannon. A personal friend of mine. He scoots around there with his bikes and his Porsche Macan S. He's a great guy. Follow him on TH-cam. Killboy. Com i believe. I haven't had this Porsche since November of 2019. And that is why the video stopped coming. However, last week I placed an order for a 2022 Porsche Cayman GTS 4.0. I'm very eager to get this car. Manual transmission, and all the goodies. I'm excited. Look for more videos starting in November or December when the GTS hits stateside
Yea, All my cars are manual, no other way. I'm 54 & have always driven them since I began driving at 15😁
Great Run! I'm always a little concerned over meeting a cruiser over the double yellow on a blind decreasing radius turn at 60mph.... Yes, its happen to me more than once. I was lucky it was just a close call as I was hard on the inside of my lane. Still an eye opener. Again, great run.
I am always aware of the dangers this and other roads like it present. A cruiser in my lane is among them. I never push the car harder on a public road than I can safely drive it and stop it. But sometimes others do, and that's the risk we take when we use public roads to fill our itch for driving spiritedly. There are no trophies given on Tail of the Dragon, so my hope is that while the two drivers in this video were certainly driving more aggressively than most, the viewers come away knowing neither driver was concerned more with speed than safety. Thanks so much for the comment and Happy Easter.
@@caymanchronicles4753 - yep 10/10ths is a bad idea on public roads. Sometimes even 9/10th maybe too thin a margin.
@@caymanchronicles4753 - started driving the dragon in 2005. I’ve seen it go bad for cars & bikes but usually bikes. The worst was when emergency personnel were holding up sheets on the side of the road to block the view of something/someone. That’s was about 5 miles past Fontana Village on SR 28 towards Deals Gap. They had the road closed due to that accident. It was bad. I presume a fatality(s). Be safe & enjoy.
@@motorgearhead I try to keep it to 7/10ths. Even on track, I won't go 10/10. There's no room for error and that's my car. No sponsors. 😂
@@caymanchronicles4753 - same here….
great driving, fantastic video, keeping it real thank you. that McLaren visibly has ton of advantage over u out of corners, maybe also better tires? swap the drivers and i think u would be just as faster..
The driver of the McLaren is extremely talented. He also didn't cross the double yellow (mustard) at all. That car is amazing. I loved this Porsche, but that McLaren has a lot of the same advantages (mid-engine, phenomenal steering and braking, great balance) as well as twice the horsepower and torque and an equally talented driver. I can hang with almost any car and driver combo on this road. Not this one. Thank you for the comments and enjoy driving safely and with spirit
Now isn't that a great Lotus road.
No lane cutting. 🤩🙏
As it should be!! And thank you for the comment and compliment!
No small feat. Well done!!!! I don't drive anything near this. Would I be wrong to wonder what a gear lower would have been like. I've come to learn that lugging is NOT a good thing ever. That guy with the surfboard cut more lanes than you boys.
@@autonomousindividual7780I have to be in 2nd gear on almost all turns. The Cayman is a great car but it lacks torque and there must be 4000rpm or more to hit the power band. Always a gear down
j/w what tires were on the Cayman? 4S level or SportCup2 level :-O You were gettin' it!
Thank you!! The Cayman S had Federal 595 RS-RRs on it. 245/35/19 on the front and 275/35/19 on the rear and they were about 3/4ths used up
Seems odd that the Gs measure so high on right but not left turns. Speed tracking seems off as well.
Be safe out there folks!
The speed was off, as it was kept track by GPS on my phone. And right turns on public roads will always be higher G forces as the turn goes away from the oncoming lane
@@caymanchronicles4753 huh, you mean bc of the crown of the road? I thought the g sensor was rotated off kilter or something bc you dont look slower on the left handers. Never thought about the roads being off camber for left hand turns.
And you prolly dont need accurate speeds posted for us to see haha
@@justwannasharevideo1058 actually, what I'm saying is since the right hand turns, regardless of camber (although most are positive camber), turn away from oncoming traffic rather than towards it and you can also cut the mayo (shoulder) and keep speed, your right hand turns will carry more speed and produce higher G forces. It's a "safer" environment than a left on a public road where there's oncoming traffic on your left.
That selfish truck in the end spoiled the final mile, although it had a pullover spot.
Good driving.
As a regular to TOTD, I'm aware that people commute through US129. When it was safe, the McLaren passed a slow vehicle, and where it wasn't, we patiently waited for the truck to pull over. Thanks for the compliment, and I'll tell ya that the McLaren's driver was amazing as was his car. Very few get 2 to 3 corners ahead of me on this road, and he sorta dusted me in areas. Also without crossing the center double yellow.
bro what is that driving 8:12
That was a random moron driving a truck. 😂. We were fortunate he didn't hurt anyone and got out of our way.
What tires are you running? Any mods?
I'm on dying Federal 595 RSRRs. 245/35/19 front and 275/35/19 rear. The only mod other than GT4 front fascia and wing and color change wrap is a Fabspeed Valvetronic exhaust. The only mod I concentrate on is driver mod. The rest of the car is stock Cayman S
Damnnnn that McLaren was hauling some serious ass! You were too tho dont get me wronge😎
He was way faster. At least a minute faster up the mountain than I am. Fast car, fast driver
@@caymanchronicles4753 thats crazy! Any recomendations on a "cheaper" good cornering car/ track car? Take care man!
BRZ/Toyota 86/FRS, Miata, Focus ST/RS, WRX, Fiesta ST, and maybe a 2007 Cayman. That'll be more. Maybe 20k. But the others are affordable.
@@caymanchronicles4753 thanks!👍
@@rubberskilla2991 s2000
Crossing the double yellow line is just plain STUPID.
Cayman just needs to stay in 2nd gear all day. They have such long gear ratios. It’s sad how porsche neutered the Cayman. Test drove one before I bought my Supra. I really like the Cayman too. If porsche gave it close gear ratios, bye bye 911.😂
It's a drawback for sure. But everything else the Cayman offers far outweighs the gear ratios
Watched your video right before I took my 911 up to TOD. I just got back.... Your video is more impressive NOW... Video cant capture how fast into the corners you throw your car when you are driving aggressive.
Thank you!! Very kind of you to say! I'll agree that the video doesn't truly capture the G forces and the narrow lanes and how precise you must be to drive this aggressively, yet safely, on such a dangerous road. And how fast those sharp turns come up on you, and how relentless they are, one after another after another.
I hope you had a blast in your 911!!
@@caymanchronicles4753 Im SOOOO unproductive! I keep watching our videos. I was fighting the urge to shift to 3rd vs winding out 2nd. Chasing my buddies E55 was fun... We were fairly equal given his HP advantage but the 911's lighter weight and handling. I'll be going back...
Winding out second in the Cayman S is 82mph. On TOD, I usually short shift at 65 so I can use downshifting to aid the brakes in slowing down. But this McLaren had me in horsepower 2 to 1. Torque 3 to 1. Also the Cayman usually has engine placement as an advantage. But not so here. McLaren is mid engine. I had to Rev out second many times which put strain on the brakes. I think what I was most satisfied with in this run was the fact that we never crossed or touched a yellow the whole adventure. Chasing an E55 must have been a blast!!
@@caymanchronicles4753 It was! the Yellow Line Bandits are everywhere....They are playing with FIRE! Unless you see the other side you better assume someone is coming.... And you better hope that dude isnt over the line...Im gonna post something later this week from my trip.
@@swaller07 I'll be on the lookout!
Would've loved to be riding shotgun!
First week in November you can catch a ride with me up there!!
I'll be up there again from November 2-6. Ride alongs encouraged