@@sennadehond3821 ye na, most of the 911's are turbo. But the main selling point of all the GT3s are that they are strictly NA. U get a GT3, U get a NA race engine
it's just scary to me. It's happened in literally every vid I've watched about this place. And honestly, with how bad these 2 are at driving, I'd be fkng terrified having them in my rear mirror too. I'd definitely get out of the way too, not because I don't wanna race them, but because I'd only ever want to be BEHIND them.
@@DanielRoytman I wouldn't know since I'm not from there but here in EU people are just scared or don't gaf but they won't stop to let you through lmao maybe 1 in 50 might do that, or less. And those guys are definitely not amazing drivers, they're half decent with cars way too good for them
@@miner4236 on my trip to Italy, everyone would move out of the way on the highways if you were driving faster than them. I am from the US, and unfortunately, not everyone is courteous enough to do that.
@@DanielRoytman yea they do most of the time since it's a legal obligation. Keyword "highway", though. Nobody will move out of your way on a single lane twisty road like in the video
Well didn't Lamborghini design this thing's engine? Because at the time they were owned by Chrysler. This was before all the German influence; before the Audi acquisition. Hence it has the characteristic of a classic Lamborghini: Raw, Wild, Untamed, and Dangerously Unpredictable/Uncontrollable when you hit a certain speed. Just like Bull riding... just like Bull riding :)
@@OpeoAslam they only do it so they don't have to be terrified watching their rear mirrors. The amount of idiots on this road is another reason I'd never go there lmao. shit's a public racetrack with no rules and no entry fee.
...and a courtesy wave to those who pulled over, that's always appreciated and I always bump the horn at them😎 Notice the Viper guys hands and where they always are, big props to him👍👍
Awesome driving mate! That ACR is one hell of an criminally underrated beast. Stay safe and race on the tracks, not roads, we never know what will happen!
@@rolson6775 Yep. The only reason it's price is suddenly rising, is because everyone in the media outlets are taking note of its manual mechanics. Real race cars, born to tear up the track.
@@cyberspectre8675 maybe now, after discontinuation and markups, MSRP used to be around corvette prices. And they were even faster than any corvette. In comparison, check r34 and supra prices and compare stock performance, you will see which is overrated.
As a several time Dragon driver (Porsche 911 Carrera GTS), you have some skills keeping up with that GT3! Good job! Just try to stay off the "mustard"!!
Unfortunately these cars are too low and heavy to really "attack" the Dragon. They'll scrape (as I'm sure you're aware) on some of those down dipping hair pins. Good vid though! Porsche better quit crossing that double yellow. You should try: The Rattler, Hell Bender, The Snake, . You'll be able to open up that GTS much more.
It was a good run but watching the GT3 and Vipers race at Road Atlanta during the Petite Le Mans was an awesome sight to see as they truly show what these cars are capable of.
There’s a lil road that I’ve driven probably 50 times now and my 5.0 on about 25 of those times and it’s so much fun to know the flats and when to downshift cuz of an upcoming curve or to press on the throttle to get that extra half sec of speed before you gotta slam the brakes. The best part is the double hairpin I do where I fly in at about 75mph going to a rise that necessitates me to downshift two gears with my foot HEAVY on the break cuz at the bottom is the double hair pin and I’m still reviving high in first as I go through the turns. Something about the body roll and engine noise I just love
@@5C2WMedia oh for sure especially when you know your car because you’ve driven it for so long. I may not have the control of a light body car like Miata or a brz I can just throw around corners with no fear but the acceleration and noise I hear as I hit the flats and knowing I hit it at the right time is just music to my ears. Down shift down shift flat run up shift roar up shift roooooaaar. It’s all fun no matter the car
@@advicemaster1365 oh it is stick and on that road there are times where I skip from 4 to 2. A lot of it is done at 4K rpms that way I can get the balance between launch, upshift and if I’m braking I’m able to be in high rpm in second. I’ve done the same run in a c7 grand sport and that is absolutely insanity. As much as I can do in my GT that blew me away
It was my first time going this weekend and it was amazing. My car continued to surprise me, i couldn't Imagine driving a viper through those roads. Amazing. Thrilling. It still gives me chills.
This takes me back to the early 90s, when I lived in nearby Maryville and spent two or three days each week up at the Gap. That was before the Internet blew it up. There was never a day with as much traffic as you see on this run, but every once in a while there was a trucker who tried to make it through!
I remember those days... I hadnt been there in 20 years until about 3 years ago when I started taking my Audi up there. I sure do miss those lonely week days when we had the road to ourselves.
I bet it suits your Audi well. We didn't know how lucky we were. All the good roads in Avery County where I live now have reduced speed limits. @@piperpilotpat
Awesome video! Loved every moment of it! Tail of the Dragon is on my bucket list. I've got a west USA trip this September through Beartooth Hwy, Pikes Peak and the San Juan Skyway. Gonna be a blast!
Awesome vid, I just did the Tail for the first time today in my lightly modified 2014 Subaru Brz. What I noticed was the amount of shifting that you didn't have to do, I was up and down between 2 and 4th the whole way. You got so much HP and torque in that thing you barely had to shift, looks like you just keep it in 3rd. Awesome driving in an awesome car 👍😎
2nd is such a good gear for this road. First ever run, I left my E60 M5 in auto and realized how much of a mistake that was. Came back with M-Drive on and left it in 2nd. Entirely different animal and much more enjoyable.
Looked like one hell of a fun ride! I don't know if it exists, but there should be a "Race the Dragon" type event where the roads are closed and reserved for amateurs and pros racing against the clock in a tarmac rally.
I did 3.55’s in mine. Made it more fun to drive. The long gears were actually a complaint of mine. I like to shift lol. The car was way too capable to have fun with on the streets,unlike you want to drive like a total asshole.
Whats your cruising RPM's looking like? 3.55 still seems tall. I put 4.10 gears in my C10 with the Viper T56 and I feel like 4.56 would work nice. V10 torque must be amazing tho
Cool video it’s easier to chase than lead. The Porsche is the clear winner here as it runs away from the higher h.p. Viper numerous times. Still an exciting contest. I’d like to see the Porsche chasing the Viper next.
Man, you sure know how to wrestle that Viper. Sure looks like a handful, but very fun nonetheless. TOTD is on my bucket list to take my bike in the short future and my street/track car once I decide what to get. New sub here!
Dope video. Usually these types of videos the guys cant drive for shit or are crossing the lines often. But you know this car and you can clearly drive. Your first gear is longer than my 3rd lol. But in terms of car, you just cannot compete with porsches precision and balance when it comes to this shit. ACR looks like a lot of fun, sketchy in those corner exits at low speed 😂
You should check out my latest video. I lead/follow with the same car this year. Tighter lines and getting more comfortable with the car so overall pace was faster. She’s def rowdy but holds its own. You’re right about the 911 tho. Precise machines forsure.
I feel like some gloves are called for in this setting don't want to get sweaty palms😂also, I've never seen a steering wheel turn so far at such a high speed. That car is an absolute animal
I could have a personal version of heaven it would be to experience exactly this as y’all have I’ve drove the road before but never in anything that was worth DRIVING that stretch… Viper Rules! MURICA!
I saw u guys on that motorbike dudes channel , yall r hella good at driving and ur cars r mintt!
I was just going to ask if this was the same pair that would be on MaxWrist....I guess that video is already up.
make me remember of that old video of a viper gts chasing a porsche 911 in Stockholm !
Good? He can't even stay on his side of the road. Don't cross the double yellow on the dragon.
@@hillbillyblack4425 Right? And the Porsche was F'n the viper dude in just about every corner with the excessive braking.
2 of the best examples of NA engines. One using extreme revs, another extreme displacement
Couldn't have put it better. 2 engines howling in harmony
Isn’t the porsche twin turbocharged though?
@@sennadehond3821 it revs out to 9K
@@sennadehond3821 ye na, most of the 911's are turbo. But the main selling point of all the GT3s are that they are strictly NA. U get a GT3, U get a NA race engine
Don't Forget the LS7! High Revving and Big Displacement 👍
What i find most impressive is people who are driving slow actually getting out the way
it's just scary to me. It's happened in literally every vid I've watched about this place. And honestly, with how bad these 2 are at driving, I'd be fkng terrified having them in my rear mirror too. I'd definitely get out of the way too, not because I don't wanna race them, but because I'd only ever want to be BEHIND them.
@@miner4236 For most, its common courtesy- let the faster drivers pass. These two are some of the best drivers ive seen, this is all skill.
@@DanielRoytman I wouldn't know since I'm not from there but here in EU people are just scared or don't gaf but they won't stop to let you through lmao maybe 1 in 50 might do that, or less.
And those guys are definitely not amazing drivers, they're half decent with cars way too good for them
@@miner4236 on my trip to Italy, everyone would move out of the way on the highways if you were driving faster than them. I am from the US, and unfortunately, not everyone is courteous enough to do that.
@@DanielRoytman yea they do most of the time since it's a legal obligation. Keyword "highway", though. Nobody will move out of your way on a single lane twisty road like in the video
I love how the idle and low speeds of the Viper sound like a tractor, then you open it up and it sounds just as awesome as any super car out there.
Haha yeah it does. Definitely a unique sound that is unmistakable when she’s in the revs. Absolutely love it
Well didn't Lamborghini design this thing's engine? Because at the time they were owned by Chrysler. This was before all the German influence; before the Audi acquisition. Hence it has the characteristic of a classic Lamborghini: Raw, Wild, Untamed, and Dangerously Unpredictable/Uncontrollable when you hit a certain speed. Just like Bull riding... just like Bull riding :)
I said the same thing at the beginning. At idle it sounds like a turboed tractor lol
@@winterpurple4587 that's very interesting how come i haven't heard this before
@@winterpurple4587 Also Lamborghini didn't make tractors? 🧐🤔
Great driving from everyone in this vid including the cars using slow car pull offs! its massively appreciated by all spirited drivers!
Now if only people would do that in other areas like US-19 south of Blairsville, GA…
@@OpeoAslam they only do it so they don't have to be terrified watching their rear mirrors. The amount of idiots on this road is another reason I'd never go there lmao. shit's a public racetrack with no rules and no entry fee.
...and a courtesy wave to those who pulled over, that's always appreciated and I always bump the horn at them😎
Notice the Viper guys hands and where they always are, big props to him👍👍
I love that I can just hear both of them so clearly! This was a great drive, bro! 😌👍
Thanks man! Appreciate it
Awesome driving mate! That ACR is one hell of an criminally underrated beast. Stay safe and race on the tracks, not roads, we never know what will happen!
Appreciate it 🤜
Underrated?
@@rolson6775 Yep. The only reason it's price is suddenly rising, is because everyone in the media outlets are taking note of its manual mechanics. Real race cars, born to tear up the track.
How is it underrated? You can't touch it for a cent less than a hundred grand.
@@cyberspectre8675 maybe now, after discontinuation and markups, MSRP used to be around corvette prices. And they were even faster than any corvette. In comparison, check r34 and supra prices and compare stock performance, you will see which is overrated.
That Porsche driver noticeably loves what he is doing. Setting a nice pace
Yeah I was just out for a sunday drive
@@mikekuhnracing beautiful car man
Viper got power and downforce, porsche is nimble and has extremely good handling. Excellent video. Had my heart racing
As far as track performance goes it's actually kind of backwards, a viper corners faster than the porsche and the porsche is faster in the straights 😅
Love the Viper! So visceral, macho, and American!
As a several time Dragon driver (Porsche 911 Carrera GTS), you have some skills keeping up with that GT3! Good job! Just try to stay off the "mustard"!!
The eternal struggle of the hot dog.
Of course if these were two professional drivers, those two cars would be far apart.
Not all that difficult when the Porsche is driving at half it's capacity 😅
And the acr at only ¼ its potential @@crystallava5002
Unfortunately these cars are too low and heavy to really "attack" the Dragon. They'll scrape (as I'm sure you're aware) on some of those down dipping hair pins. Good vid though! Porsche better quit crossing that double yellow. You should try: The Rattler, Hell Bender, The Snake, . You'll be able to open up that GTS much more.
After running the dragon for the 1st time this year and watching this… I can tell you this much… THATS SOME GOOD VEHICLE CONTROL.
Sometimes u just gotta close your eyes and see with your ears. This is one of those times. Beautiful music
This is just so calming yet thrilling to watch, great driving from the both of you!!!
The nervous hands early are awesome, unbelieveable drive man, being willing to break traction on the dragon is big set stuff, BIG set!!!!
Appreciate it man. Was back out there this week.
@@falabellajacob What tires?
@@RallyCap5000 running the nankang AR1s. 295/325
@@falabellajacob That's really interesting! Worth giving up the size in the rear for the grip you get from the AR1's...never would have thought it.
Right he was def tryna Push it 💪🏽
Very skilled driving. 5:23 was an impressive correction, too!
Horrible driver. Driving at 10 and 2 and can't stay in his own lane.
These guys did a great job, dove in deep to the right all the time...like your supposed to👍👍
I have read so many times how the Viper sounds like a UPS truck at 3,000 rpm, this video proves that. Lol!
It was a good run but watching the GT3 and Vipers race at Road Atlanta during the Petite Le Mans was an awesome sight to see as they truly show what these cars are capable of.
Thank you for this camera angle. Im looking through the corners with ya.
Drove it 5 years ago in a Stock 1999 Corvette FRC. - Tab Cat Bridge to Deals Gap - 10:28- Lots of driving in the Alps paid off.
Very cool video!!! Nice driving by both of ya!!!
There’s a lil road that I’ve driven probably 50 times now and my 5.0 on about 25 of those times and it’s so much fun to know the flats and when to downshift cuz of an upcoming curve or to press on the throttle to get that extra half sec of speed before you gotta slam the brakes. The best part is the double hairpin I do where I fly in at about 75mph going to a rise that necessitates me to downshift two gears with my foot HEAVY on the break cuz at the bottom is the double hair pin and I’m still reviving high in first as I go through the turns. Something about the body roll and engine noise I just love
the thrill of going speeds only possible through intimate knowledge of the road always puts a smile on my face
@@5C2WMedia oh for sure especially when you know your car because you’ve driven it for so long. I may not have the control of a light body car like Miata or a brz I can just throw around corners with no fear but the acceleration and noise I hear as I hit the flats and knowing I hit it at the right time is just music to my ears. Down shift down shift flat run up shift roar up shift roooooaaar. It’s all fun no matter the car
Gotta have a stick!
@@advicemaster1365 oh it is stick and on that road there are times where I skip from 4 to 2. A lot of it is done at 4K rpms that way I can get the balance between launch, upshift and if I’m braking I’m able to be in high rpm in second. I’ve done the same run in a c7 grand sport and that is absolutely insanity. As much as I can do in my GT that blew me away
I’m glad the YT algorithm brought me here. Two totally different cars with the same philosophy.
It's nice to see proper driving etiquette. People pull right out of the way so you can have fun, thus preventing the need for risky Maneuvers..
I really like that y’all are experiencing those cars the way they were meant to be especially the viper the gen 1 is my dream car
I vote for more roads like this. All those happy trees gobbling up all that viper and gt3 carbon. Seems so right.
the Viper sounds so damn good, i love it
2 of my favorite cars together, insane job on taming the viper
Thats awesome that cars pull over and let you by. Great unspoken etiquette on that road.
Oh hell yeah...some mighty fine driving!
I’ve run the dragon a few times and can appreciate the skill you guys have! Nice video of your drive.
This should be how car vids are to be filmed!!!! Awesome man fr
It's amazing how beautiful and high performing these cars with the engine in the wrong spot are. ❤
Thanks for the ride. Outstanding driving!
It was my first time going this weekend and it was amazing. My car continued to surprise me, i couldn't Imagine driving a viper through those roads. Amazing. Thrilling. It still gives me chills.
First time I did autocross I realized I needed actual tires for a track. Still kept up with the charger that also didn't have track tires lol
@@ADude846 Chargers are terrible track cars
This is awesome. Beautiful cars and scenery with great sounds and especially the driving. Not going crazy, just pure fun.
I do miss the tail. Back in my sport bike riding days I would ride all the way down the parkway from VA to the tail.
This takes me back to the early 90s, when I lived in nearby Maryville and spent two or three days each week up at the Gap. That was before the Internet blew it up. There was never a day with as much traffic as you see on this run, but every once in a while there was a trucker who tried to make it through!
I remember those days... I hadnt been there in 20 years until about 3 years ago when I started taking my Audi up there. I sure do miss those lonely week days when we had the road to ourselves.
I bet it suits your Audi well. We didn't know how lucky we were. All the good roads in Avery County where I live now have reduced speed limits. @@piperpilotpat
Solid clean run!
Awesome video! Loved every moment of it! Tail of the Dragon is on my bucket list. I've got a west USA trip this September through Beartooth Hwy, Pikes Peak and the San Juan Skyway. Gonna be a blast!
nice cars, nice driving, nice camera angle, and nice driving lines 👍 thanks for good video.
Awesome vid, I just did the Tail for the first time today in my lightly modified 2014 Subaru Brz. What I noticed was the amount of shifting that you didn't have to do, I was up and down between 2 and 4th the whole way. You got so much HP and torque in that thing you barely had to shift, looks like you just keep it in 3rd. Awesome driving in an awesome car 👍😎
Your BRZ would be waiting for both these cars to pull over and let you by. The Dragon is made for light weight high torque cars.
amazing pov angle and an amazing drive!
Very nice driving !!! gotta have some huge balls run a viper up there like that RESPECT 💯
I feel like the ACR Vipers and the Vipers in general are under appreciated.
They will be appreciating the value even more. Dodge won't do another gen viper imo
@@hasanpektas756 I agree that I don’t think Dodge will do another gen. Sadly.
Yeah sadly I think the way the industry is going we won’t see it again. 🥲
@@falabellajacob I don’t disagree and it equally think it is sad.
2nd is such a good gear for this road. First ever run, I left my E60 M5 in auto and realized how much of a mistake that was. Came back with M-Drive on and left it in 2nd. Entirely different animal and much more enjoyable.
You need a stick for the Dragon.
@@advicemaster1365 My SMG was fine once I figured it out.
Me in my S2K way behind!! Y'all might be pushing the Edge of Spirited Driving! I hope to visit there soon! Great Driving
The Porsche never gets fast enough to justify that huge wing lol.
Takes some skill handling that viper boy
Great video, enjoyed watching! 👍 Respect to drivers who pulled on a side to let faster ones pass ✌️
Looked like one hell of a fun ride!
I don't know if it exists, but there should be a "Race the Dragon" type event where the roads are closed and reserved for amateurs and pros racing against the clock in a tarmac rally.
man I wish but nothing like that takes place that im aware of.
Hillclimb in the US is a rarity and it's such a shame! I wish we could see unhinged racecars destroying some more of the scenic passes here in CO
There used to be a hill climb time race going up to Chimney Rock
Nice driving man, enjoyable!
" Chasing"... Not "..chasing down.."
Great video! Chasing my Porsche would be less of a challenge...LOL...'01 Boxster S! Keep up the great videos!
Oh contra. I'll bet your light weight nimble torquey Boxster would easily out perform both of these on the Dragon.
The people who drive these have balls of steel
This is awesome 👌🏾
That viper loves to have fun and get loose, also definitely 2 cars I desire to have in my garage!
the gearing of the viper is insanely long ,love it.
Glad someone does haha. Actually changing the gears right now to something more practical
I did 3.55’s in mine. Made it more fun to drive. The long gears were actually a complaint of mine. I like to shift lol.
The car was way too capable to have fun with on the streets,unlike you want to drive like a total asshole.
Whats your cruising RPM's looking like? 3.55 still seems tall. I put 4.10 gears in my C10 with the Viper T56 and I feel like 4.56 would work nice. V10 torque must be amazing tho
Hopefully I’ll see you up there sometime man! I’ve always wanted a viper 😂
Biggest adrenaline rush of my life, doing the Tail of the Dragon in a highly modified 2001 Mustang Cobra.
Cool video it’s easier to chase than lead. The Porsche is the clear winner here as it runs away from the higher h.p. Viper numerous times. Still an exciting contest. I’d like to see the Porsche chasing the Viper next.
First time going to Tail this September in my Veloster N. I can’t wait
Nice driving and nice cars. Did a good job with the widow maker
That was a nice drive fellas!
That mustache adds 15 hp
Looks so freaking fun! Can't wait to get a great handling car one day so I can go here too!
I hope that day comes soon for you bro.
Porsche : We built a pure racecar
Dodge : Slaps a truck engine in a large miata
You need to drive both before making such a silly comment.
It's Dodge duh. Look at what they're doing with their new challengers and chargers. It's pathetic
this viper has much more in common with racecars than 991 gt3 in the video. Not even close.
Nice driving. I just did it in an MR2 Spyder and that was about as fast as my brain could handle.
Man, you sure know how to wrestle that Viper. Sure looks like a handful, but very fun nonetheless. TOTD is on my bucket list to take my bike in the short future and my street/track car once I decide what to get. New sub here!
Appreciate it!
The Porsche handles better and it shows, but the Viper didn't look nearly as squirrelly as I would have figured it would.
Entertaining video for sure!
Driver mod
@@greaser3069 facts. He loaded up his wheels during turns and didn't let it get outta hand.
@@YaketyYakDontTalkBack there's so much low end torque in those V10s.
badass, you guys are living life!!
Whole Lotta mustard going on.
Wow what a chase. Sure did chase him down.
911 is holding back
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It’s a public road
I love how the drivers of the slower cars pull over to let these two play
Brute force vs precision engineering 👍
Avoided the clibbins, but plenty of mustard.
The viper crossed the double yellows many times. I thought the idea was to stay in your lane!!
Love your car, nothing beats a vipers v10 spund
wow, viper much harder to drive in this conditions, good job, it's just casual fun for the Porsche
Ahh.. the Porsche driver wished he/she had the footage from the viper:). Nice Run!
Terrific contrasting and camera perspective.
That is so kewl that people pull over for the fast guys
That is some good camera angle man!!
To the one in the passenger seat, I envy you, you’re in the best seat of that Viper. I’m sure you enjoyed yourself.
Amazing video! Thank you!
That's scary in a viper, makes me nervous lol
Two mustard connoisseurs, eh?
If you’re gonna drive an American beast, you must rock that mustache. Good job man!
Jeez, that Viper is a cow. Loose chassis, steering radius of the earth, and gear ratio is like a truck gear box.
Dope video. Usually these types of videos the guys cant drive for shit or are crossing the lines often. But you know this car and you can clearly drive. Your first gear is longer than my 3rd lol. But in terms of car, you just cannot compete with porsches precision and balance when it comes to this shit. ACR looks like a lot of fun, sketchy in those corner exits at low speed 😂
You should check out my latest video. I lead/follow with the same car this year. Tighter lines and getting more comfortable with the car so overall pace was faster. She’s def rowdy but holds its own. You’re right about the 911 tho. Precise machines forsure.
Shordie is admiring that ACR or you in that ACR in the beginning Lmaoo
Carbon duel irl looks neat.
Take a shot every time the viper goes over the yellow lines
God, I know right? And people think this is "good driving". Just sad.
Gen IV ACR is the GOAT. Would actually rather have one over a Gen V. Beautiful car man.
This is hypnotic
I feel like some gloves are called for in this setting don't want to get sweaty palms😂also, I've never seen a steering wheel turn so far at such a high speed. That car is an absolute animal
I could have a personal version of heaven it would be to experience exactly this as y’all have I’ve drove the road before but never in anything that was worth DRIVING that stretch… Viper Rules! MURICA!
Don’t think I heard a screech once. Impressive driving bro
Underrated or not I'd love to have one.