Watch the full documentary: m.th-cam.com/video/K0SdNzjWCV8/w-d-xo.html Also, for anyone wondering, there was 1 yellow card and no red cards. After a review in 1997, it surfaced that there should’ve been 6 red cards and 20 yellow cards at the very least.
Brutal yes, but most of the players got up immediately. In the modern game they train you to do six somersaults if someone brushes up against you. Different days!
@david edbrooke-coffin Maybe there are pansies in the modern game but dirty play is dirty play and should be punished accordingly. Some of these tackles could have ended someone's career. I remember Martin Buchan pretty much doing that to Colin Bell in a Manc derby League Cup tie in 1975 at Maine Road (Bell made a sort of comeback but was never the same again - aged 29 or so - what a waste of great talent) and Jimmy "Head" Case breaking Geoff Nulty's leg in a Scouse derby a few years later at Goodison. Interesting to see Billy Bremner getting shirty about a challenge that he would have happily dished out himself. Leeds had a reputation but they were hardly unique. We will never see those days again.
Big respect to you john for the great era you played in yes it was tough and physical but also full of passion and wonderful players too this was proper football and alot of todays prima Donna's wouldn't have cut it .We also had the best commentators ever in those days and a fantastic atmosphere at grounds bet you wouldn't swap those memories for anything john.
Thank you John, You are well and fondly remembered as a solid ,valuable, talented player in one of the best teams Chelsea ever had, a Cup Winners Cup goal scorer and a gifted defender alongside Ron Harris and David Webb.
Thank you Judy for your kind words you said.Yes I was part of a really great team which I will never forget and also to score in the Cup Winners Final when we won against Real Madrid was a great moment. Thank You again Stay Safe.
Hi Colin I agree with what you say football then was always full of passion and no one dived trying to get players sent off like they do today. I played in a great team and their was also lots of great players in other teams that would grace football today.I have lots of memories from them days and one of them is how the fans got behind the teams you had to play to realise how they pushed you on to win.
Great comment and a truly fantastic "old school"journalist(till this day he's the only sports Journalist to receive "The Journalist of the year" award)
I was 16 years of age and went to both games with my uncle, it was a fantastic experience and remember it so well, specifically the atmosphere and was fortunate to be sitting in the stands at Old Trafford for the replay, along by the Stretford end which the Chelsea fans occupied. There was so much intense gripping drama, it was difficult to keep up. When the final whistle went our seats which all had cushions on them, were unceremoniously thrown into the air in celebration and delight to form a cloud of cushions in the air. It was an absolutely brilliant night and a terrific memory that I’ll never forget!
I was one of those 28.49 million watching in the UK, as a visiting American boy of 14. I was a Chelsea fan at the time. For me, Peter Bonetti was second only to Gordon Banks, and he kept Chelsea in the game with one brilliant save after another. When Chelsea equalized at the end of the first game, I ran screaming all over the house. (My sainted mother never said a word...)
The lost art of long-distance bog roll throwing. If I rock up outside a ground now and hurl it as far as I can during a match,I wonder if I can get it to land on the pitch.
Was at school when this final was played and when the ref blew for time i swear was the happiest schoolkid on this planet. Good days and 2 cracking teams who really should've won more trophies than they actually did. Thank you for posting this.
This is when football was about the football and not the stupid ridiculous amounts of money they get paid now. 2 amazing teams battling it out as it still should be. Respect to all of them 👍
Yes but it's also striking how much older players looked a couple of decades ago. Even though they are the same age as players today, they looked like they were in their 40s and 50s. But then today's players look and act like spoiled teenagers so I guess it's all relative.
Watching this in 2021 and looking back at those marvellous memories, such passion 2 great teams, that Leeds side was really something else, youngsters today don’t realise how big a football club Leeds is and that Chelsea was always big, their history isn’t since a certain Russian bought us out we won a European trophy before Liverpool even knew what one was Leeds and Chelsea are massive football clubs with huge rivalry that still exists today, mainly the old school as the youngsters are oblivious to what football back in the day was like it’s like chalk and cheese to how it is today I remember even when we were both in the 2nd tier battling it out to be Champions we were always mentioned when Premier League s and breakaway leagues were spoken about, you had two incredible fan bases especially away from home huge numbers both of them where the battles between Leeds and Chelsea were on and off the pitch It was just an era where men were men where life was tough but free at the same time no social media, moments were spontaneous not staged you could rock up to an away game on the day 10,000 of you pay on the gate they’d squeeze you in if it was possible Give me those days any day over today s cooperate mish mash, big up Leeds United big up Chelsea, great video well done.
@@xxstnickyboi5606 Thank you for your reply and yes I remember scoring against the Spanish Champions Real Madrid back in 1971 and helping us win the European Cup Winners Cup which I will never forget.
Those were the days. My Dad always mentioned Chelsea Vs Leeds in the good old days as being real battles. So right. It's a joy to watch. These days they go down like pansies after being hit by a daisy..
@@irvinglambert9316 Rivalry and physical play does not mean violence and thuggery. Otherwise, football could be played by the supporters themselves. The stands of every stadium are full of brutes, louts, and thugs who would be glad to beat each other up for one tenth of the wage of a standard PL player (they already do it for free!).
These days players fall over if the wind picks up. They've all got poppadom legs. Back in the day they were made of steel and it took a WW2 tank to knock em down.
The '70 Final is remembered too much for the needle although that only added to compelling viewing. We should never forget that these two teams showed no little skill on terrible surfaces. It was billed beforehand as a potential classic Cup Final with two sides who'd built up an intense rivalry in the preceding years. It didn't disappoint.
Even a manchester united fan, I really admire this video. 2 sets of players getting stuck in as men. When we played on the green when I was a kid, this is what it was like. One set of lads from newbarns and one set from town. Great stuff. We need more men in football again. Every team now has divers. Especially our lot. Sick of it. Get stuck in and give everything for the lads on your team.
I'm also a man utd fan of over 60 years, incredible watching 2 great teams battling it out players kicking lumps out of each other and getting up an fighting on great skill as well Leeds were an incredible team, think there achiles heal was the goal keeper, a great watch
I used to help run the Chelsea supporters club in N Ireland and Ozzie would come over frequently. I used to pick him up at the airport and he would often talk about the cup final and the rivalry with Leeds and what it mean't to both the fans and players. He was also good friends with Norman Hunter these guys were real legends. He always managed to get me tickets for the big games, he was a true gent. How many players today truly love the club they play for like these guys did?
Ah, as a kid i played with marbles, each an individual footballer for my matches between teams by colour. My cousin lost Pater Osgood and Peter Lorimer in the garden- losing Lorimer was bad enough as it undermined the future matches, but i never forgave him for losing Osgood. a most tragic case of losing your marbles.
As a 64 year old life time Chelsea fan ! My era 👌 Osgood Bonneti Cooke - real games played by footballers who can play on any surface - respect to Leeds who had great players and manager 👌
Am a 61 year old West Ham fan but the memories growing up 1970 cup final the 68 European cup final world cup 70 Pele Arsenal double 71 night at spurs goal was only on the news George who can hit them 71 cup final Spending all cup final day in me pyjamas drinking cherryade and eating Smith's crisps watching cup final it's a knockout teams at their hotel all the funnies. Now it's cup final 5-15pm with same 3 or 4 teams an hour before KO oh well we can only remember.
@@davidshepherd17 agree the FA Cup.has been disgracefully down graded by the powers that be for some time, but let's not get dewy eyed about the 70s . It was pretty thuggish and skilful.players.were given no protection by referees. The pitches were appalling and a godsend to the less skilful! Golden Age- dont make me laugh and I've been watching Football since 1955. The 50s and early 60s were fairly rough and ready, but with the 70s ,teams like Leeds added a cynicism to the roughness! They were a contemptible team matched only by the product of the 70s cynicism allied to roughness- Wimbledon!!
@@davidshepherd17 Yes agree ! was a great day ! build up in the morning and then kick off at 3 - whole of football ruined by mega money - no longer game of working class and communities - Appalled by latest European breakaway league !
I was a LUFC supporter as a kid. The fans used to go to matches armed but the violence on the pitch was unrelenting. The pitches were a sea of mud, boots were heavy and hard leather and blood flowed. It was basically a medieval battle.
The game that made me a Chelsea fan. Dad worked shifts in the dock, so never got taken to any football matches. Watched both games and leapt up at the final whistle, landed and broke the wood support under the chair. Even the spanking I got, couldn't dampen the elation. 50 years ago now, but the rivalry, with Derby's help, feels just as strong. Keep your hankies handy :). In peace.
Yes . Chelsea v Derby was always a good game . I remember as a Kid in Singapore about 1971 . One of the Best games captured on TV , at the Baseball Ground. It was broadcast next day on TV for the Military Families because it was played on New Years Day . ... Its on TH-cam .UpTheStags.
Hi John. I've been a Chelsea fan since i was 10 in 1967, (losing to Tottenham 2-1 in the cup final). Beating Leeds at the time was the happiest day in my life. Loved every single one of you. Ian Hutchinson was my hero, ( with no disrespect to anyone else). You were /are all HEROES in my eyes. What a club we are. Special thanks to Mr A. (the boss). Massive force in world football. Once again John, thank you, not forgetting Dave Sexton.
Hi Tony just seen your comment on here and I am so pleased that you liked are team back then and we gave you a lot of pleasure. Yes they were two tough games as Leeds were a really good team but I was so pleased to win the FA Cup but also for every Chelsea fan. “Blue Is The Colour “
I remember this as I was allowed to stay up even on a school night as the replay was midweek. The Chelsea I loved winning the FA Cup for the first time. Then went on to win the European Cup Winners Cup next season against Real Madrid. Oh and to all the 'real men in those days' comments - my dad used to say the same about players in the 70's and how soft they were. So nothing changes
I remember well the incredible excitement of FA cup Saturday as a kid. It seemed to get lost when all the big money flooded into the game in the 1990's.
Exactly , I remember the streets were deserted back in those days when the Cup Final was on , just a few women walking around . Nowadays it is just like a normal day . Hardly anyone seems bothered .
What a great pair of games. Like others have said, players today are so protected that all the passion has disappeared from football other than when goals are scored. George Best was great when everyone was trying to cut him in half on the pitch. Very few of the legendary hard men from those days could stop him. People rave about Messi, Ronaldo, Naymer and the like but how many of those would be so great if they had to play in games and on pitches like George did? Football through to the end of the 70's was a sport. Since then it's become more and more of a business and is mostly bland as fuck compared to the days of those Chelsea - Leeds games.
I remember when they asked a ref from 2000 to re adjudicate this match, and he said that after 56 minutes of play he would have had to abandon the match as neither team would have enough players left on the pitch due to red cards. And he said that was if he was being as lenient as possible, otherwise it wouldn't have made it to half time!
Great vlog..as a Chelsea fan I was brought up on the legend and rivalry of this game..and a few tasty encounters inbetween..good to have you back..in a strange sort of way!!!..ha.ha.
Seeing Bremner getting chopped , and Billy turning round to see who did it , and it's none other than mild-mannered Scottish International colleague , Charlie Cooke !
FYI…Charlie eventually made his way to the US and partnered with legendary Dutch coach Weil Coerver to run a series of soccer schools, focused on developing mastery of the ball and one v one skills. I was one of those US kids who was coached by Charlie…I didn’t really know who he was as a player until many years later!
Still the biggest club in London. Massive support. I was 9 or 10 years old ffs. Lost to Spurs in 67. Won the League Cup in 65. Cup Winner's Cup in 71. Then lost to Stoke in the 72 League Cup final. Couple a seasons later we were Div 2 for crying out loud. Great days.
For all of you youngsters reading these messages. This was a period when 10+ teams each year really felt they had an equal chance of winning the league and possibly the FA Cup. Leeds, Liverpool, Everton, Derby County, Arsenal, Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea. All these teams had amazing players and great managers. Even teams not mentioned like Moore, Peters and Hurst’s West Ham, Malcom McDonald’s Newcastle and Queens Park Rangers’ greats: Venables, Marsh, Parkes and Gerry Francis. There were no easy games. Pitches looked like rain-soaked mud-pit Glastonbury festival weekends, for two thirds of the season each year. It was a great heavily contested era for the sport. The English top division had great players in all teams. The talent went deep. West Germany, Holland, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Scotland and Yugoslavia had two or 3 really big teams in their league unlike the English top tier. If the same qualification for the champions league happened back then in the 70s with the top 4 gaining entry instead of just the league winners. I think of that era only Cruyff’s Ajax, Beckenbauer’s Bayern Munich and possibly Stein’s Celtic would occasionally get close to those above named clubs. I still do not understand though, how with all of the great English world class players available, why England failed to qualify for two World Cups in the 70s?
I saw my first two Chelsea games aged 6 in 1970 and both were against Leeds. 2-5 at home in the league in January and 2-2 in the first final (watched the replay in my pyjamas at home!). What epic matches they were. Leeds were favourites to win the league, the cup and the European cup that season and lost all three, even though they were the best team in Britain and probably Europe.
I watched this on TV and will never forget Webb's goal. That was real football back then, dirty and brutal, but incredibly entertaining. God bless those players who went before, and played for the club and not the salary.
As a Chelsea supporter of many years, Leeds are just as bigger club as us. Many Chelsea fans of a certain era I would imagine like myself have a bit of grudging respect for leeds both on and off the pitch. Vice versa I should imagine..
Honestly, we've been luckier than Leeds because of geography. If they were a London side and Chelsea were from the North I expect Leeds would be more successful now. Still, we suffered many years in division 2 and there was a time where we might have been liquidated, so we deserve today's success too.
Chelsea are certainly a bigger club than Leeds now, and in truth, Leeds were only ever a big club in the Revie era! Even then, their gates were far lower than the other big clubs, especially for a one club city. Rugby League has always been a counter attraction in Leeds, unlike in Manchester or Liverpool. Chelsea are not really as big a club as Arsenal, Man Utd, or Liverpool either. They are from a middle class area and have 5 other league teams within 8 miles. Admittedly all 5 are smaller but together they account for a fair amount of fans( especially Fulham and Crystal Palace) and could well be joined by a sixth the way Sutton are performing in the National League ! Both Chelsea and Leeds are hampered in a way the really big teams are not, for all their success , Chelsea gates are still lower than Tottenham's !
@@johnsaunders2109 Got to say that the attendance figures comparison between Chelsea and Tottenham isn't really a fair one - because part of the story is size of stadia and depends on years you are measuring. All time attendances for example are not going to favour a team that spends longer in the second division (although both sides have had these moments). But most of the rest of what you wrote I can agree with, although bear in mind that Chelsea was a working class area. Certainly when I used to walk down the North End Road to Stamford Bridge there were a hell of a lot of working class people, just like there used to be when walking around the houses at Highbury. For sure Chelsea was not even close to being a member of the original big 5 clubs.
@@bganonimouse2754 Both Islington and Fulham have been gentrified, but Arsenal are a team less inclined to local support than other London teams. Their geographical support is nowhere near as pronounced as Tottenham (N London and Hertfordshire).: West Ham ( Essex estuary) and Chelsea( SW London and Surrey). Of these hinterlands , Chelseas is by far the least working class and they also have more neighbouring clubs of a fairly high standard than the others. It makes for lower support.
@@johnsaunders2109 Yeah , ignoring Leyton Orient (as most people do), around Chelsea there is QPR, Brentford, Watford, AFC Wimbledon, Palace, and the exit roads from London go to Guildford and Slough which are hardly areas to pull in great support. Both Chelsea and Leeds though have suffered from owners that regarded them as money machines in the past to pull for their own benefit. Leeds have certainly upset the normal promotion/demotion pattern of the Premiership, coming equiped and ready to play and win, finding it tougher this year as other clubs have sussed what is going on, but with careful player additions Leeds should be able to beat any other club and for the price of the team , give good value.
My memory of my late father going crazy and holding my 3 year old baby sister in the air like a cup when Chelsea at last won the fa cup. Love it. Hope you are well Mr Dempsey
@@angie-smart-but-casual I totally agree with you. I have supported my local team, Motherwell for over fifty years. I have saw many Scottish men go “Down the road” to make name for themselves. Ian StJohn, Gary McAllister, Brian McClair and James McFadden to name a few. Nowadays, we are just not producing the homegrown talent in the same numbers or of the required calibre. Game is getting too “ Top heavy” with not enough TV money distributed down to the lower levels. Don’t get me started.🙀
@@johnsaunders2109 Talking about the entrance money. I paid 1/6 at the boys gate at Motherwell in 1967. I think it’s £15:00 pre- Covid (I have a Season Ticket). How much to get into the like of Chelsea.
Im a 67 year old Chelsea fan who along with a mate went to that game. We had Leeds tickets which despite our best efforts could not swap. To witness the Chelsea fans on the Stretford End made up for it though. After the match me and my mate got chased to his car by Man City fans!!!. Obviously a day/night that stays vividly in my ageing mind. What a team to support...
I was a small kid, but I perfectly remember this epic match on french TV , watching with my dad, we were so happy in the end. I will remember all my life, so intense.
For me, perhaps the most memorable feature of the 69-70 season was the FA Cup semi-final tie Leeds contested against Manchester United, which led on to the final match shown here. As the season entered its final stages Leeds United were going for an unprecedented (at least it was then but subsequently Alex Ferguson's Man United achieved this feat in 1999) League, FA Cup and European Cup treble. However, after three grueling matches with Man U (the first two went to extra time) taking place on 14th, 23rd and 26th March respectively, the Leeds players were essentially knackered. When the 69-70 season finished Leeds had won zip all, falling to Celtic in the Semi-final of the European Cup (ties played 1st and 15th April) and finishing runners up to Everton in the First Division title chase - of the six League matches played after the FA Cup Semi-final marathon matches, Leeds only managed one win and one draw, losing the other four - the wheels came off in the final run-in?
No...the most memorable match for me regarding Leeds, was the 1979 European Cup when Leeds lost 2-0 to Bayern Munich in Paris. They were robbed of a victory with a Greek referee Kitabdjian disallowing 2 clear penalties for Leeds (one where Allan Clarke was badly fouled by Beckenbauer). 14 years later Beckenbauer admitted it was a foul and that Leeds were the better team. In the second half. in the 66th minute, a perfectly legitimate volley from Lorimer was chalked off for a perceived offside offence, with Bremner supposedly the culprit. Lorimer said after the game.."Beckenbauer went straight to the linesman. He was held in such stature that he could dominate officials. I looked at the referee to see if he had given it and point to the half-way line, but due to Beckenbauer's protests and he changed his mind". Unfortunately, the Leeds fans lived up to the reputation of English fans at the end of the game by rioting and UEFA initially slapped a four-year ban on Leeds following the crowd trouble, but it was reduced to two years after a well-argued appeal by manager Jimmy Armfield.
Leeds were the best supported English team up her in Scotland in the 1970'.s My friend won player of the year for Leeds boys club but where has this brilliant institution gone to? Another was their supporters were the hardest in English football.Go on the Leeds lets see you back were you belong....
Precisely the health and wellbeing etc is little part of the reason their soft as shit today. Scared to die more than ever today.Luxury and convenience debased them. Hard times create strong men, good times create weak men.
@@nd-sd1vx the 70s was one of the 'softest ' times in our History! Jobs were plentiful and secure, immigration was nowhere near todays level, and street violence low. Perhaps both Footballers and Football Fans found this state of affairs boring, and decided to create their own violence , both on and off the pitch !!
@@johnsaunders2109 It's 1970. You'd just come out of rationing only 20 years before. They are the parents of these men playing. The players are products of that parenting.They grew up belted still in the house for disrespect THey were taught values by men and women who grew up in a time you could still be hung, for crossing certain lines. Their parents had them before the swinging sixties which is the start of the rot. Sodomites are not quite flavour of the month, therefore men conform more to masculine roles, emulate their Fathers etc. Their fathers and mams, grew up being bombed out, and accepting they might lose their life in war perhaps. Their Fathers did national service. People still worked together to some extent, as Thatcher had not made everything individual, and Blair had not come in and got everyone competing against each other to reach targets.. I get your point and agree, but the effects of a soft 70s are to be seen later. Not in 1970 this match.The causes for this match are laid down a generation before,
I'm sure I've commented on this before but I remember this game. Some hard lads on both sides. A joy to watch Jack Charlton scything Hutchinson to the ground. Happy days
That was football in those days, hard and brutal at times. I would have loved to see some of today's wimps play in that time, wouldn't last two minutes.
well actually it's the other way around. if the law would allow agression on the pitch those old footballers would be no match to nowdays footballers on the physical aspect
Indeed. Back then we has men, now players are pussy and lacked the manliness to compete. I bet messi and ronaldo would've struggled in 70s. Pussy ass footballers these days
Great memories. Two classic games from an era when fans of any First Division team believed their club had a realistic chance of winning the Cup. A far more open, unpredictable and exciting competition in those days. Cup Final day was always an event. 3pm on a Saturday with no other distraction. And the game in general was packed with characters that fans on the terraces could relate to, unlike today with the mollycoddled personality free teams clogging up the top leagues. Games like the 1970 final stay long in the memory. In comparison, who genuinely cares about the result of any Champions League game, ( or should that more realistically be re-named the 'Champions and Those Who Have Never Won Any Title In 50 Years' League, with its usual procession of little known European clubs that no-one cares about.)
I was a 12-year-old at both matches with my Dad. I was behind the goal at Wembley where Gary Sprake let the ball under his body. He was my hero, but that was a hard one to defend.
@@johnsaunders2109 he was a gambler and used the money from that story to pay off debts. If Leeds were fixing matches to win I cannot see a single match where something 'strange' worked in their favour. I can think of many bizarre refereeing decisions and blunders that were mostly made by Sprake that cost them so much, so the story doesn't add up. Famous losses to Wolves and West Brom were due to refereeing errors that are still legendary 50 years later.
Each time Gary Sprake makes an appearance the DJ would play a record by Des O'Connor called Careless Hands. That was the title of Gary Sprake autobiography.
@valleywoodworker calm down ye little snowflake. Within this hard period of the game came many great players. Best, Pele and the rest. They could give it back too but could also play without protection on rubbish pitches. Proper men. None of this can’t be touched on pristine pitches. A lot easier now.
@valleywoodworker you saw about two minutes of both games. I suggest you watch each game in their entireties, I'm sure they are available somewhere on youtube. Without a doubt this was the best ever FA cup final. Both teams were full of top class players, who knew how to look after themselves and their team mates, both were as hard as nails and never gave each other an inch. The football was great and the brutality merely added to the game. Not one inch given and not one inch asked for. Players get red cards for slightly mistiming a tackle these days, even when no one is hurt. I've seen many a good game ruined by one team un-necessarily reduced to ten men.
@valleywoodworker Reading down the rest of the comments the clear majority appear to disagree with you. However I would have to say that many of your points are valid, pitches are miles better than they were back then, coaching, training and medical supervision are also much improved. Technology has improved both the ball and the kit, of course that was completely outwith the control of the players, they had to use what was available to them and thankfully they did so that our game could improve. Yes I'd be the first to agree Franny Lee could be a cheating ****, but he was one of only a very small few, every player today knows how to throw themselves to the ground to try and cheat the referee (and therefor the game). I'd be the first to admit the game is glossier and more professionally presented than ever before, Stadiums are fantastic, the TV coverage is great and there is much to be admired about the modern game, including none of the midless violence on the terraces in the 1970-80s. With regards to all the medical conditions you mention, obviously I have to agree with you, however at present we have no idea at all how the modern player's health will be affected in the future. My understanding is that it is the act of heading which is of serious concern, and not just the heavy balls (although even I would concede that the old heavy balls probably were a big contributor). Please also note that by the 1970's ball technology had improved dramitically. Skillful players of their age, Best Law, Greaves etc WERE appreciated for their skill back then. Is today's game light years better than back then, well clearly it has a lot more money thrown at it, players are set for life with one decent contract, they are fitter, faster and technically better (generally), they get looked after physically. But they owe the development of the game to those who came before them. Diving, cheating, VAR (don't get me started there) have not improved the game at all. Great players will always be great players, to write them off as being from a bygone era is disrespecting what they gave to our game. There were very few images from our footballing past prior to 1960, but I would suggest that you find images from the 1951 FA cup final and tell me that both of Jackie Milburn's goals wouldn't have graced any modern day game. Other than the cheating, diving VAR etc I still love the modern game, but I'm sorry to call yester-years players thugs and write them off the way you have is nothing short of complete disrespect for our game's history.
I was working as a Able Seaman on the MV Zealandic during this game an had to listen on ships radio in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, still a Pensioner well now I am lol,
You gotta love a guy running for goal with the ball, delivering a forearm shiver to the last defender to beat, and then burying the thing in the back of the net. You can't really do that anymore.
@@angie-smart-but-casual Depends on the era you grew up in though doesn't it. If its a derby and you encounter supporters from another team all the time in your local area then the rivalry is going to stay strong no matter what leagues you are in. But if you are two teams from other ends of the country the rivalry is inevitably going to die down if they have barely played each other for 20 years, especially for younger fans. Chelsea-Leeds is a rivalry based off some particularly brutal sporting competitions in a bygone era, rather then any real political, geographic or other cultural factors (aside from your bog-standard North/South)
@@angie-smart-but-casual Im from Liverpool and Red. Our only big and consistent rivals are Everton, from the same city, and Man Utd who are down the road. Only other rivalries we have are temporary and based on form.
I saw Leeds play Chelsea at Elland Road a few times in the 60s and early 70s. They were usually excellent games to watch for the right reasons. Despite all the hyped fan hatred, the two teams got on well and used to socialise after games more than they did with other teams. But who wants to hear that?! ;) The Leeds game against Man City in Jan 78 made this look like Puss in Boots.
I was a 7 year old Chelsea fan back then. I love that team ,they played great football. Hutchinson ,Cooke and McCreadie were my favorites. Great times ,hated Leeds ,but they had some good player like Hunter.
Am wolves fan personally and I know Leeds had a bit of a reputation in 70s but after seeing that Chelsea were far dirtier players than Leeds. Ps good luck for rest of season you guys deserve it
I was at Old Trafford for the replay. My loyalties at the time were to long-forgotten Workington. The fouling and violence seemed unexceptional compared to what fourth division fans endured every week. That being said, I always regarded Harris, Bremner, Hunter, Clarke, Osgood and almost everyone else on the field as people preferably not to be encountered on a dark night when in a bad mood. Looking back, I don’t see much from the brutal superstars of the first division that wasn’t equalled - when the occasion demanded - by ‘Gentleman’ John Ogilvie, Joe Wilson (who after a transfer to Nottingham Forest did his best to end Bobby Charlton’s career), and Tony Geidmintis. As someone observed earlier, in the absence of a death certificate sendings off were rare.
I was invited to go training with Workington around 1979 when Tony Geidimintis had started coaching you. He also coached the pub team I played for. I was 16ish and declined the invite. What an idiot, I was.
Sad to say that so many of the players, Managers and coaching staff from both teams are now no longer with us. Hope they are all having a good kick about and a drink up above ! MOT
I was 18 then, watched both games, and I can tell you now both Leeds & Chelsea had some of the most brutal fans to match. As an Owls fan (waits for abuse...) you could just about predict crowd trouble from Leeds, Chelsea, Newcastle, and Man Utd fans. It's a wonder I managed to escape it all. I can remember coming home on a train from Leeds after playing them (1970 something, even late 1960s possibly) and packs of fans were going from carriage to carriage asking who you supported. If you had the wrong answer you were beaten up! Fortunately I answered correctly.
My earliest FA Cup Final memory is swinging on the front gate waiting for my dad to come and take me for the weekly Saturday afternoon walk to watch our local team Sway or walk in the forest and find Forestry Commission fire Lookouts or walk along the disused railway which originally ran to Poole. For the first time I experienced Eternity as he sat indoors watching the Wembley Final of Leeds v Chelsea whilst I swung back and forth above the gravel path at Tebourba Cottages.
i was 14 then and loved very minute of these matches coz it was like xmas you only got one live match a year ,the cup final unless it was a draw then u got 2 lol
Ended up with furniture broken in the living room of my house in Leeds as the family watched the match. I progressed onto stadiums at Molineux and Parc des Princes 😂
I remember watching the games as a kid, I supported Chelsea and many of my friends supported leeds because they were the dominant team back then, probably the dirtiest with Bremner, charton and company .
well, Everton won the league comfortably, though Leeds had won it the previous year and came close to FA Cup and lost in European Cup semi to Celtic. It's generally thought they maybe should have won a couple more trophies in the Revie era. They lost the 73 final v Sunderland, were pipped in the league with the famous West Brom goal not given offside. In 75, with Armfield as manager they were unlucky v Bayern in the European Cup final. As a Chelsea fan they were the team i least liked, all the same, but they played their part in important childhood memories- those were the days when the regular XI (and couple of subs) of the top teams would roll off the tongue.
Ah the great Charlie Cook ,the quiet Scot,when I was a kid he was always my favourite player.Respect to Leeds and their supporters this was when men were men a lads!😊
My dad told Bobby Calder,the west of scotland scout for Aberdeen about Cookie who was with Renfrew Juniors. He went straight into the first team for the opening game at Pittodrie and was sensational. I was there and still think he was the most skillfull player I ever saw and was always my favourite.
This was back in the day when physios ran on to the pitch with a dirty bucket of water and a magic sponge to treat injuries and tell the player to run the injury off, which was usually a broken leg.
And all those players seem to be prematurely dropping of like flies at present! Bremner, Osgood, and Hutchinson went years ago, and Hunter, Madeley, Bonetti, and now Lorimer have gone early. Maybe there's a connection !
@@martynjago9030I love watching the greats get to play instead of being blocked with violence on them. Maradona would have done twice his winnings if he had had the protection from thug tackles.
That`s ridiculous. He`s the best player in the world. We would have seen less of the magic though if he had been brutalized off the ball as Maradona was
I think it was 1975 when Leeds lost the FA Cup, the European Cup Final and the league all within a couple of weeks. The Scots players Billy Bremnerand Lorimer are genuine legends.
It was actually the 1969/70 season. Because of the World Cup in Mexico, the domestic season ended earlier than usual. Within the space of a few weeks, Leeds narrowly missed out in the League title, lost in the European Cup semifinal to Celtic and lost in this Cup Final replay.
Leeeds United were one of the best teams at the time but also arguably the dirtiest. They used to bully and try to intimidate rivals but Chelsea were as hard as nails and never backed down. Both teams had their share of near psychopaths. Leeds had Bremner, Giles, Hunter and Charlton but Chelsea had Harris, Osgood, Webb and Hutchinson and I really enjoyed games between the two sides
Watch the full documentary: m.th-cam.com/video/K0SdNzjWCV8/w-d-xo.html
Also, for anyone wondering, there was 1 yellow card and no red cards. After a review in 1997, it surfaced that there should’ve been 6 red cards and 20 yellow cards at the very least.
Brutal yes, but most of the players got up immediately. In the modern game they train you to do six somersaults if someone brushes up against you. Different days!
@david edbrooke-coffin Maybe there are pansies in the modern game but dirty play is dirty play and should be punished accordingly. Some of these tackles could have ended someone's career. I remember Martin Buchan pretty much doing that to Colin Bell in a Manc derby League Cup tie in 1975 at Maine Road (Bell made a sort of comeback but was never the same again - aged 29 or so - what a waste of great talent) and Jimmy "Head" Case breaking Geoff Nulty's leg in a Scouse derby a few years later at Goodison. Interesting to see Billy Bremner getting shirty about a challenge that he would have happily dished out himself. Leeds had a reputation but they were hardly unique. We will never see those days again.
@david edbrooke-coffin True that!
It's a good thing VAR was still about 50 years off, or the entirety of both teams would have been sent off.
This is back when football was played by men.
High, testosterone, balding, magnificent beards. And that's just the players wives.
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Grammar is shocking bud
Two tough matches to play in but two great teams of that era and also I was lucky to be on the winning side .John Dempsey Ex Chelsea player.
Hello John
What a credit you were, my friend.
Did the players accept that was the way the game was and at the end just move on to the next game ?
Big respect to you john for the great era you played in yes it was tough and physical but also full of passion and wonderful players too this was proper football and alot of todays prima Donna's wouldn't have cut it .We also had the best commentators ever in those days and a fantastic atmosphere at grounds bet you wouldn't swap those memories for anything john.
Thank you John, You are well and fondly remembered as a solid ,valuable, talented player in one of the best teams Chelsea ever had, a Cup Winners Cup goal scorer and a gifted defender alongside Ron Harris and David Webb.
Thank you Judy for your kind words you said.Yes I was part of a really great team which I will never forget and also to score in the Cup Winners Final when we won against Real Madrid was a great moment. Thank You again Stay Safe.
Hi Colin I agree with what you say football then was always full of passion and no one dived trying to get players sent off like they do today. I played in a great team and their was also lots of great players in other teams that would grace football today.I have lots of memories from them days and one of them is how the fans got behind the teams you had to play to realise how they pushed you on to win.
The journalist Hugh McIlvanny said it seemed like the ref in this game would only give a free kick on production of a death certificate.
Great comment and a truly fantastic "old school"journalist(till this day he's the only sports Journalist to receive "The Journalist of the year" award)
Think I heard that from Drury the other day
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I was 16 years of age and went to both games with my uncle, it was a fantastic experience and remember it so well, specifically the atmosphere and was fortunate to be sitting in the stands at Old Trafford for the replay, along by the Stretford end which the Chelsea fans occupied. There was so much intense gripping drama, it was difficult to keep up. When the final whistle went our seats which all had cushions on them, were unceremoniously thrown into the air in celebration and delight to form a cloud of cushions in the air. It was an absolutely brilliant night and a terrific memory that I’ll never forget!
Stretford End not Stratford FFS!
@@Caskchap He said STRETFORD.
I remember both games well 😀
I was one of those 28.49 million watching in the UK, as a visiting American boy of 14. I was a Chelsea fan at the time. For me, Peter Bonetti was second only to Gordon Banks, and he kept Chelsea in the game with one brilliant save after another.
When Chelsea equalized at the end of the first game, I ran screaming all over the house. (My sainted mother never said a word...)
Shame Bonetti could not repeat it in Mexico '70, quarter final vs West Germany. An absolute howler or two.
@@jamsheadaziz3999 You need to watch the game again. The defence went awol and left the cat isolated.
I loved this club back in 1971, and this cup meeting with Chelsea is among my all time greats of the game.
Back in the days when toilet rolls were so common, you could afford to throw them on the pitch.
I think some of the players might have found them useful seeing some of those tackles going in!
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Little did they know that 40 years later toilet rolls are rare collectoritems.
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The lost art of long-distance bog roll throwing. If I rock up outside a ground now and hurl it as far as I can during a match,I wonder if I can get it to land on the pitch.
Was at school when this final was played and when the ref blew for time i swear was the happiest schoolkid on this planet. Good days and 2 cracking teams who really should've won more trophies than they actually did. Thank you for posting this.
This is when football was about the football and not the stupid ridiculous amounts of money they get paid now. 2 amazing teams battling it out as it still should be. Respect to all of them 👍
Yes but it's also striking how much older players looked a couple of decades ago. Even though they are the same age as players today, they looked like they were in their 40s and 50s. But then today's players look and act like spoiled teenagers so I guess it's all relative.
You called this football? 😅 You must be sick, these idiots don't even understand the game, too many sluggish and naive style of play
They're just playing fouls all over the pitch and you called it football, I bet all those ones are former war fighters
This is more rugby than football. Pathetic 😂
Football is about brutality? Oookey
Watching this in 2021 and looking back at those marvellous memories, such passion 2 great teams, that Leeds side was really something else, youngsters today don’t realise how big a football club Leeds is and that Chelsea was always big, their history isn’t since a certain Russian bought us out we won a European trophy before Liverpool even knew what one was
Leeds and Chelsea are massive football clubs with huge rivalry that still exists today, mainly the old school as the youngsters are oblivious to what football back in the day was like it’s like chalk and cheese to how it is today
I remember even when we were both in the 2nd tier battling it out to be Champions we were always mentioned when Premier League s and breakaway leagues were spoken about, you had two incredible fan bases especially away from home huge numbers both of them where the battles between Leeds and Chelsea were on and off the pitch
It was just an era where men were men where life was tough but free at the same time no social media, moments were spontaneous not staged you could rock up to an away game on the day 10,000 of you pay on the gate they’d squeeze you in if it was possible
Give me those days any day over today s cooperate mish mash, big up Leeds United big up Chelsea, great video well done.
Read your words with interest well done for what you wrote. John Dempsey ex Chelsea player
liverpool were in the cup winners cup final in 1966 , they got beat by dortmund
@@johndempsey7528Thank you for humbling the Spanish giant. COYB 💙
@@xxstnickyboi5606 Thank you for your reply and yes I remember scoring against the Spanish Champions Real Madrid back in 1971 and helping us win the European Cup Winners Cup which I will never forget.
Those were the days. My Dad always mentioned Chelsea Vs Leeds in the good old days as being real battles. So right. It's a joy to watch. These days they go down like pansies after being hit by a daisy..
I am not sure where is the joy in seeing two technically mediocre sides beating the snot out of each other. Football is skills, not butchery.
@@irvinglambert9316 Rivalry and physical play does not mean violence and thuggery. Otherwise, football could be played by the supporters themselves. The stands of every stadium are full of brutes, louts, and thugs who would be glad to beat each other up for one tenth of the wage of a standard PL player (they already do it for free!).
Yeah but there's a happy medium, this game wasn't it.
Nancy Boys and Delicate Johnnys.
These days players fall over if the wind picks up. They've all got poppadom legs. Back in the day they were made of steel and it took a WW2 tank to knock em down.
The '70 Final is remembered too much for the needle although that only added to compelling viewing. We should never forget that these two teams showed no little skill on terrible surfaces. It was billed beforehand as a potential classic Cup Final with two sides who'd built up an intense rivalry in the preceding years. It didn't disappoint.
Even a manchester united fan, I really admire this video. 2 sets of players getting stuck in as men. When we played on the green when I was a kid, this is what it was like. One set of lads from newbarns and one set from town. Great stuff. We need more men in football again. Every team now has divers. Especially our lot. Sick of it. Get stuck in and give everything for the lads on your team.
Those days football was really a contact sport and not the choreographed ballet for prima-donnas it has become.
@@victorsproule9508 the ball was heavier and the pitches like clay, the modern game can be an art form on a good day.
I'm also a man utd fan of over 60 years, incredible watching 2 great teams battling it out players kicking lumps out of each other and getting up an fighting on great skill as well Leeds were an incredible team, think there achiles heal was the goal keeper, a great watch
I used to help run the Chelsea supporters club in N Ireland and Ozzie would come over frequently. I used to pick him up at the airport and he would often talk about the cup final and the rivalry with Leeds and what it mean't to both the fans and players. He was also good friends with Norman Hunter these guys were real legends. He always managed to get me tickets for the big games, he was a true gent. How many players today truly love the club they play for like these guys did?
Ah, as a kid i played with marbles, each an individual footballer for my matches between teams by colour. My cousin lost Pater Osgood and Peter Lorimer in the garden- losing Lorimer was bad enough as it undermined the future matches, but i never forgave him for losing Osgood. a most tragic case of losing your marbles.
As a 64 year old life time Chelsea fan ! My era 👌 Osgood Bonneti Cooke - real games played by footballers who can play on any surface - respect to Leeds who had great players and manager 👌
But did you have Heccy B and mesut ozil?
Am a 61 year old West Ham fan but the memories growing up 1970 cup final the 68 European cup final world cup 70 Pele Arsenal double 71 night at spurs goal was only on the news George who can hit them 71 cup final
Spending all cup final day in me pyjamas drinking cherryade and eating Smith's crisps watching cup final it's a knockout teams at their hotel all the funnies.
Now it's cup final 5-15pm with same 3 or 4 teams an hour before KO oh well we can only remember.
@@davidshepherd17 agree the FA Cup.has been disgracefully down graded by the powers that be for some time, but let's not get dewy eyed about the 70s . It was pretty thuggish and skilful.players.were given no protection by referees. The pitches were appalling and a godsend to the less skilful! Golden Age- dont make me laugh and I've been watching Football since 1955. The 50s and early 60s were fairly rough and ready, but with the 70s ,teams like Leeds added a cynicism to the roughness! They were a contemptible team matched only by the product of the 70s cynicism allied to roughness- Wimbledon!!
@@davidshepherd17 Yes agree ! was a great day ! build up in the morning and then kick off at 3 - whole of football ruined by mega money - no longer game of working class and communities - Appalled by latest European breakaway league !
Really liked your comment. John Dempsey ex Chelsea player
I was a LUFC supporter as a kid. The fans used to go to matches armed but the violence on the pitch was unrelenting. The pitches were a sea of mud, boots were heavy and hard leather and blood flowed. It was basically a medieval battle.
The game that made me a Chelsea fan. Dad worked shifts in the dock, so never got taken to any football matches. Watched both games and leapt up at the final whistle, landed and broke the wood support under the chair. Even the spanking I got, couldn't dampen the elation. 50 years ago now, but the rivalry, with Derby's help, feels just as strong. Keep your hankies handy :). In peace.
Hello from Bosnia. Im to Chelsea fan and i wish you good health and long life! 💙
Hello from Bosnia. Im to Chelsea fan and i wish you good health and long life! 💙
@@dinonebitno6251 Same to you Dino.
Yes . Chelsea v Derby was always a good game . I remember as a Kid in Singapore about 1971 . One of the Best games captured on TV , at the Baseball Ground. It was broadcast next day on TV for the Military Families because it was played on New Years Day . ... Its on TH-cam .UpTheStags.
Funnily enough, this game made me a Leeds fan!
amazing commitment from both teams. They kicked the shit out of each other but still respected each other at the end of it all. Class.
some seriously meaty tackles fying in that game.
Hi Paul glad you liked the game which was very tough to play in. John Dempsey ex Chelsea Player
Glad you enjoyed the match and it a really tough game to play in which I enjoyed. John Dempsey ex Chelsea Player.
If you can't kick the ball kick the man that's got it
The opposite of class. Football should never be a battle, except a battle of wits.
Hi John. I've been a Chelsea fan since i was 10 in 1967, (losing to Tottenham 2-1 in the cup final). Beating Leeds at the time was the happiest day in my life. Loved every single one of you. Ian Hutchinson was my hero, ( with no disrespect to anyone else). You were /are all HEROES in my eyes. What a club we are. Special thanks to Mr A. (the boss). Massive force in world football. Once again John, thank you, not forgetting Dave Sexton.
Hi Tony just seen your comment on here and I am so pleased that you liked are team back then and we gave you a lot of pleasure. Yes they were two tough games as Leeds were a really good team but I was so pleased to win the FA Cup but also for every Chelsea fan. “Blue Is The Colour “
I remember this as I was allowed to stay up even on a school night as the replay was midweek. The Chelsea I loved winning the FA Cup for the first time. Then went on to win the European Cup Winners Cup next season against Real Madrid.
Oh and to all the 'real men in those days' comments - my dad used to say the same about players in the 70's and how soft they were. So nothing changes
Must have gone to bed early -- this was 7.30 kick off.
Your dad was right then, too.
Back in the day when the FA Cup was a big deal.
Back in the days when clubs had some meaningful connection with their supporters instead of being marketing operations by big business
I remember well the incredible excitement of FA cup Saturday as a kid. It seemed to get lost when all the big money flooded into the game in the 1990's.
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Exactly , I remember the streets were deserted back in those days when the Cup Final was on , just a few women walking around . Nowadays it is just like a normal day . Hardly anyone seems bothered .
@@robertstorey7476 the communities which are now lost forever.
I love that replay Leeds goal so much. Bravery, speed, so clinical. At our very best.
With an elbow in the chin to start it all off.
What a great pair of games. Like others have said, players today are so protected that all the passion has disappeared from football other than when goals are scored. George Best was great when everyone was trying to cut him in half on the pitch. Very few of the legendary hard men from those days could stop him. People rave about Messi, Ronaldo, Naymer and the like but how many of those would be so great if they had to play in games and on pitches like George did? Football through to the end of the 70's was a sport. Since then it's become more and more of a business and is mostly bland as fuck compared to the days of those Chelsea - Leeds games.
I remember when they asked a ref from 2000 to re adjudicate this match, and he said that after 56 minutes of play he would have had to abandon the match as neither team would have enough players left on the pitch due to red cards. And he said that was if he was being as lenient as possible, otherwise it wouldn't have made it to half time!
And he would have been correct. I don't like todays football..too much acting. But those fouls were almost GBH. Nothing professional about that.
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Graham Poll.. ?
The good days of football where the players look like 40, probably had a couple shots of whiskey to calm the nerves before the match
That's the Sunday League you've just described there. Football at its purest.
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When the quality of the game and pitch was worse than primary schools this age
And some of them smoked.
Hahaha true... footballers should look 40 like the good old days!
Great vlog..as a Chelsea fan I was brought up on the legend and rivalry of this game..and a few tasty encounters inbetween..good to have you back..in a strange sort of way!!!..ha.ha.
Seeing Bremner getting chopped , and Billy turning round to see who did it , and it's none other than mild-mannered Scottish International colleague , Charlie Cooke !
Charlie Cooke. My favourite player of all time. Little magician on those pitches.
what a box of tricks charlie cooke was happy days.
and what a pass by Charlie for the equaliser- a legendary moment.
FYI…Charlie eventually made his way to the US and partnered with legendary Dutch coach Weil Coerver to run a series of soccer schools, focused on developing mastery of the ball and one v one skills.
I was one of those US kids who was coached by Charlie…I didn’t really know who he was as a player until many years later!
Still the biggest club in London. Massive support. I was 9 or 10 years old ffs. Lost to Spurs in 67. Won the League Cup in 65. Cup Winner's Cup in 71. Then lost to Stoke in the 72 League Cup final. Couple a seasons later we were Div 2 for crying out loud. Great days.
Two great sides and these games that started the Chelsea/Leeds rivalry.
Wonderful times
Excellent, excellent Lewis. Well put together.
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As A CFC fan , great game , great players never to be forgotten.
Great video for those who say Chelsea have no history...
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They don't. But that's still a 100% movie history than Leeds have, or ever will have
Bigger Crowds back then, electric atmosphere.
The best away support...
Ken Bates was our hero...
Its when you guys had your soul still, i miss this Chelsea
For all of you youngsters reading these messages. This was a period when 10+ teams each year really felt they had an equal chance of winning the league and possibly the FA Cup. Leeds, Liverpool, Everton, Derby County, Arsenal, Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea. All these teams had amazing players and great managers. Even teams not mentioned like Moore, Peters and Hurst’s West Ham, Malcom McDonald’s Newcastle and Queens Park Rangers’ greats: Venables, Marsh, Parkes and Gerry Francis. There were no easy games. Pitches looked like rain-soaked mud-pit Glastonbury festival weekends, for two thirds of the season each year. It was a great heavily contested era for the sport. The English top division had great players in all teams. The talent went deep.
West Germany, Holland, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Scotland and Yugoslavia had two or 3 really big teams in their league unlike the English top tier. If the same qualification for the champions league happened back then in the 70s with the top 4 gaining entry instead of just the league winners. I think of that era only Cruyff’s Ajax, Beckenbauer’s Bayern Munich and possibly Stein’s Celtic would occasionally get close to those above named clubs.
I still do not understand though, how with all of the great English world class players available, why England failed to qualify for two World Cups in the 70s?
I saw my first two Chelsea games aged 6 in 1970 and both were against Leeds. 2-5 at home in the league in January and 2-2 in the first final (watched the replay in my pyjamas at home!). What epic matches they were. Leeds were favourites to win the league, the cup and the European cup that season and lost all three, even though they were the best team in Britain and probably Europe.
Glorious! Anytime my fellow Americans say "Football" isn't physical enough, I make them watch this. Just fantastic action.
This match is our history 💙
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I watched this on TV and will never forget Webb's goal. That was real football back then, dirty and brutal, but incredibly entertaining. God bless those players who went before, and played for the club and not the salary.
Brutal and entertaining. What a stupid remark. I see only gladiators on the pitch.
I remember watching this on tv - great games. Lots of people supported Leeds at that time including my older brother and we lived in Devon.
bloody hell. i wish football was like that still, mick jones, what a goal!
Great to see Ian Hutchinson , the best long throw exponent EVER
Ian Hutchinson was THE MAN !!
Martin Chivers was just as good
No much o a player but what a javelin thrower he would have made!
Rory Delap is the best long throw specialist ever by a mile. Of course these days he was criticised for it by the primadonas & MOTD!
@@IBeeZ2012 Your wrong dude.
As a Chelsea supporter of many years, Leeds are just as bigger club as us. Many Chelsea fans of a certain era I would imagine like myself have a bit of grudging respect for leeds both on and off the pitch. Vice versa I should imagine..
Honestly, we've been luckier than Leeds because of geography. If they were a London side and Chelsea were from the North I expect Leeds would be more successful now. Still, we suffered many years in division 2 and there was a time where we might have been liquidated, so we deserve today's success too.
Chelsea are certainly a bigger club than Leeds now, and in truth, Leeds were only ever a big club in the Revie era! Even then, their gates were far lower than the other big clubs, especially for a one club city. Rugby League has always been a counter attraction in Leeds, unlike in Manchester or Liverpool. Chelsea are not really as big a club as Arsenal, Man Utd, or Liverpool either. They are from a middle class area and have 5 other league teams within 8 miles. Admittedly all 5 are smaller but together they account for a fair amount of fans( especially Fulham and Crystal Palace) and could well be joined by a sixth the way Sutton are performing in the National League ! Both Chelsea and Leeds are hampered in a way the really big teams are not, for all their success , Chelsea gates are still lower than Tottenham's !
@@johnsaunders2109 Got to say that the attendance figures comparison between Chelsea and Tottenham isn't really a fair one - because part of the story is size of stadia and depends on years you are measuring. All time attendances for example are not going to favour a team that spends longer in the second division (although both sides have had these moments).
But most of the rest of what you wrote I can agree with, although bear in mind that Chelsea was a working class area. Certainly when I used to walk down the North End Road to Stamford Bridge there were a hell of a lot of working class people, just like there used to be when walking around the houses at Highbury.
For sure Chelsea was not even close to being a member of the original big 5 clubs.
@@bganonimouse2754 Both Islington and Fulham have been gentrified, but Arsenal are a team less inclined to local support than other London teams. Their geographical support is nowhere near as pronounced as Tottenham (N London and Hertfordshire).: West Ham ( Essex estuary) and Chelsea( SW London and Surrey). Of these hinterlands , Chelseas is by far the least working class and they also have more neighbouring clubs of a fairly high standard than the others. It makes for lower support.
@@johnsaunders2109 Yeah , ignoring Leyton Orient (as most people do), around Chelsea there is QPR, Brentford, Watford, AFC Wimbledon, Palace, and the exit roads from London go to Guildford and Slough which are hardly areas to pull in great support. Both Chelsea and Leeds though have suffered from owners that regarded them as money machines in the past to pull for their own benefit. Leeds have certainly upset the normal promotion/demotion pattern of the Premiership, coming equiped and ready to play and win, finding it tougher this year as other clubs have sussed what is going on, but with careful player additions Leeds should be able to beat any other club and for the price of the team , give good value.
The two best cup finals. Ever.
My memory of my late father going crazy and holding my 3 year old baby sister in the air like a cup when Chelsea at last won the fa cup. Love it. Hope you are well Mr Dempsey
I am so pleased that your father saw us win the FA Cup back then and was so excited. Brings back happy memories for me and all Chelsea fans. Stay Safe
How true. It’s not the “Working Man’s Game” anymore that’s for sure.
It's a board game today in comparison
@@angie-smart-but-casual I totally agree with you. I have supported my local team, Motherwell for over fifty years. I have saw many Scottish men go “Down the road” to make name for themselves. Ian StJohn, Gary McAllister, Brian McClair and James McFadden to name a few. Nowadays, we are just not producing the homegrown talent in the same numbers or of the required calibre. Game is getting too “ Top heavy” with not enough TV money distributed down to the lower levels. Don’t get me started.🙀
Never was! Always run by middle class businessmen !!
@@johnsaunders2109 Talking about the entrance money. I paid 1/6 at the boys gate at Motherwell in 1967. I think it’s £15:00 pre- Covid (I have a Season Ticket). How much to get into the like of Chelsea.
@@jimlogan2329 This is what football is all about.Did not know them great players you mentioned started
At Motherwell.
Red cards were not neccessary. There was enough red with the blood on the pitch.
Players from this era look like men whereas today they almost all look like boys.
Players from that Era don't look like professional footballers.
@@kiwanukaivan8651 Of course they do. They look like professional players from that era.
More like pub football
@@niallburke8985 Hard man football
@@kiwanukaivan8651 no alice bands..no man buns..no sarongs..no vegan diets..yeah real men.
Im a 67 year old Chelsea fan who along with a mate went to that game. We had Leeds tickets which despite our best efforts could not swap. To witness the Chelsea fans on the Stretford End made up for it though. After the match me and my mate got chased to his car by Man City fans!!!. Obviously a day/night that stays vividly in my ageing mind. What a team to support...
City were playing in the ECWC final in Vienna the same night. Wasn't on tv though hence the CIty fans were looking for other forms of distraction.
I was a small kid, but I perfectly remember this epic match on french TV , watching with my dad, we were so happy in the end. I will remember all my life, so intense.
So you're french?
yes ;) @@olikane530
Harris, Webb, Charlton, Hunter, Bremner.. What could possibly go wrong ❓❓
"Recriminations forgotten". That'll be the day.
These guys play with more heart then our 2020 primadonnas ever have!!
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Zzzzzzzz,!
@@dutdut2.059 it's true kid
FBI USA get a grip grandpa
@@dutdut2.059 okay snowflake ❄
If Neymar woykd have beene playing, he would have never gone through the gates
If Neymar would see this game, he would piss his pants wet
Two reasons why England never win anything !!!
Rip, truly Leeds United is underrated. I want to see them in the league again soon.
For me, perhaps the most memorable feature of the 69-70 season was the FA Cup semi-final tie Leeds contested against Manchester United, which led on to the final match shown here.
As the season entered its final stages Leeds United were going for an unprecedented (at least it was then but subsequently Alex Ferguson's Man United achieved this feat in 1999) League, FA Cup and European Cup treble.
However, after three grueling matches with Man U (the first two went to extra time) taking place on 14th, 23rd and 26th March respectively, the Leeds players were essentially knackered.
When the 69-70 season finished Leeds had won zip all, falling to Celtic in the Semi-final of the European Cup (ties played 1st and 15th April) and finishing runners up to Everton in the First Division title chase - of the six League matches played after the FA Cup Semi-final marathon matches, Leeds only managed one win and one draw, losing the other four - the wheels came off in the final run-in?
No...the most memorable match for me regarding Leeds, was the 1979 European Cup when Leeds lost 2-0 to Bayern Munich in Paris. They were robbed of a victory with a Greek referee Kitabdjian disallowing 2 clear penalties for Leeds (one where Allan Clarke was badly fouled by Beckenbauer). 14 years later Beckenbauer admitted it was a foul and that Leeds were the better team. In the second half. in the 66th minute, a perfectly legitimate volley from Lorimer was chalked off for a perceived offside offence, with Bremner supposedly the culprit. Lorimer said after the game.."Beckenbauer went straight to the linesman. He was held in such stature that he could dominate officials. I looked at the referee to see if he had given it and point to the half-way line, but due to Beckenbauer's protests and he changed his mind". Unfortunately, the Leeds fans lived up to the reputation of English fans at the end of the game by rioting and UEFA initially slapped a four-year ban on Leeds following the crowd trouble, but it was reduced to two years after a well-argued appeal by manager Jimmy Armfield.
Leeds were the best supported English team up her in Scotland in the 1970'.s My friend won player of the year for Leeds boys club but where has this brilliant institution gone to? Another was their supporters were the hardest in English football.Go on the Leeds lets see you back were you belong....
U know that health and well being aren’t to the foremost when your manager lights up a benson & hedges
He smoked cigars did Mr Revie.
freedom torches
Precisely the health and wellbeing etc is little part of the reason their soft as shit today. Scared to die more than ever today.Luxury and convenience debased them. Hard times create strong men, good times create weak men.
@@nd-sd1vx the 70s was one of the 'softest ' times in our History! Jobs were plentiful and secure, immigration was nowhere near todays level, and street violence low. Perhaps both Footballers and Football Fans found this state of affairs boring, and decided to create their own violence , both on and off the pitch !!
@@johnsaunders2109 It's 1970. You'd just come out of rationing only 20 years before. They are the parents of these men playing. The players are products of that parenting.They grew up belted still in the house for disrespect THey were taught values by men and women who grew up in a time you could still be hung, for crossing certain lines. Their parents had them before the swinging sixties which is the start of the rot. Sodomites are not quite flavour of the month, therefore men conform more to masculine roles, emulate their Fathers etc. Their fathers and mams, grew up being bombed out, and accepting they might lose their life in war perhaps. Their Fathers did national service. People still worked together to some extent, as Thatcher had not made everything individual, and Blair had not come in and got everyone competing against each other to reach targets.. I get your point and agree, but the effects of a soft 70s are to be seen later. Not in 1970 this match.The causes for this match are laid down a generation before,
My god ,50 years ago ..Where has all the years gone 🤦♂️..Loved going to matches when the grounds were packed to the rafters ⚽
Your comment got me. 50 years! Damn! I'm getting old! :(
I'm sure I've commented on this before but I remember this game. Some hard lads on both sides. A joy to watch Jack Charlton scything Hutchinson to the ground. Happy days
When blokes were blokes, now they just roll around as if they've been shot.
That was football in those days, hard and brutal at times. I would have loved to see some of today's wimps play in that time, wouldn't last two minutes.
well actually it's the other way around. if the law would allow agression on the pitch those old footballers would be no match to nowdays footballers on the physical aspect
@@dedfed321 quite! That thuggery wasn't Football! Leeds were vile, and other English teams not much better! The end result was Wimbledon!!!
Seriously I doubt that. Stringy lanky and fragile are today’s lot. Men then were far tougher
Ronado or zlatan would rape these farmers
Indeed. Back then we has men, now players are pussy and lacked the manliness to compete. I bet messi and ronaldo would've struggled in 70s. Pussy ass footballers these days
Brutal but riveting, classic FA cup and replay !.
Any game featuring LUFC getting beaten is a game worth watching.
Great memories. Two classic games from an era when fans of any First Division team believed their club had a realistic chance of winning the Cup. A far more open, unpredictable and exciting competition in those days. Cup Final day was always an event. 3pm on a Saturday with no other distraction. And the game in general was packed with characters that fans on the terraces could relate to, unlike today with the mollycoddled personality free teams clogging up the top leagues.
Games like the 1970 final stay long in the memory. In comparison, who genuinely cares about the result of any Champions League game, ( or should that more realistically be re-named the 'Champions and Those Who Have Never Won Any Title In 50 Years' League, with its usual procession of little known European clubs that no-one cares about.)
I was 12 at the time, a big Chelsea supporter can remember both matches like it was yesterday.
FA Cup Final day. The days as a kid when you could not wait for midday to watch Grandstand no matter who was in the final.
I was a 12-year-old at both matches with my Dad. I was behind the goal at Wembley where Gary Sprake let the ball under his body. He was my hero, but that was a hard one to defend.
Even the fans at Elland Road called him Cinderella because he kept missing the ball!
MOT
But he blew the whistle on Leed's corruption later! Might never have been proved, but no smoke without fire and he was there!!
@@johnsaunders2109 he was a gambler and used the money from that story to pay off debts. If Leeds were fixing matches to win I cannot see a single match where something 'strange' worked in their favour. I can think of many bizarre refereeing decisions and blunders that were mostly made by Sprake that cost them so much, so the story doesn't add up. Famous losses to Wolves and West Brom were due to refereeing errors that are still legendary 50 years later.
Each time Gary Sprake makes an appearance the DJ would play a record by Des O'Connor called Careless Hands. That was the title of Gary Sprake autobiography.
The good old days. Love it proper mans game.
@valleywoodworker calm down ye little snowflake. Within this hard period of the game came many great players. Best, Pele and the rest. They could give it back too but could also play without protection on rubbish pitches. Proper men. None of this can’t be touched on pristine pitches. A lot easier now.
@valleywoodworker you saw about two minutes of both games. I suggest you watch each game in their entireties, I'm sure they are available somewhere on youtube. Without a doubt this was the best ever FA cup final. Both teams were full of top class players, who knew how to look after themselves and their team mates, both were as hard as nails and never gave each other an inch. The football was great and the brutality merely added to the game. Not one inch given and not one inch asked for. Players get red cards for slightly mistiming a tackle these days, even when no one is hurt. I've seen many a good game ruined by one team un-necessarily reduced to ten men.
@valleywoodworker Reading down the rest of the comments the clear majority appear to disagree with you. However I would have to say that many of your points are valid, pitches are miles better than they were back then, coaching, training and medical supervision are also much improved. Technology has improved both the ball and the kit, of course that was completely outwith the control of the players, they had to use what was available to them and thankfully they did so that our game could improve. Yes I'd be the first to agree Franny Lee could be a cheating ****, but he was one of only a very small few, every player today knows how to throw themselves to the ground to try and cheat the referee (and therefor the game). I'd be the first to admit the game is glossier and more professionally presented than ever before, Stadiums are fantastic, the TV coverage is great and there is much to be admired about the modern game, including none of the midless violence on the terraces in the 1970-80s. With regards to all the medical conditions you mention, obviously I have to agree with you, however at present we have no idea at all how the modern player's health will be affected in the future. My understanding is that it is the act of heading which is of serious concern, and not just the heavy balls (although even I would concede that the old heavy balls probably were a big contributor). Please also note that by the 1970's ball technology had improved dramitically. Skillful players of their age, Best Law, Greaves etc WERE appreciated for their skill back then. Is today's game light years better than back then, well clearly it has a lot more money thrown at it, players are set for life with one decent contract, they are fitter, faster and technically better (generally), they get looked after physically. But they owe the development of the game to those who came before them. Diving, cheating, VAR (don't get me started there) have not improved the game at all. Great players will always be great players, to write them off as being from a bygone era is disrespecting what they gave to our game. There were very few images from our footballing past prior to 1960, but I would suggest that you find images from the 1951 FA cup final and tell me that both of Jackie Milburn's goals wouldn't have graced any modern day game. Other than the cheating, diving VAR etc I still love the modern game, but I'm sorry to call yester-years players thugs and write them off the way you have is nothing short of complete disrespect for our game's history.
bites yer legs vs chopper harris. good ol' one
I was working as a Able Seaman on the MV Zealandic during this game an had to listen on ships radio in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, still a Pensioner well now I am lol,
You gotta love a guy running for goal with the ball, delivering a forearm shiver to the last defender to beat, and then burying the thing in the back of the net. You can't really do that anymore.
We've always had history 💯🙌⚽️💙
As a Chelsea fan, if Leeds had been in the Prem for the last 18 years, I'd hate them more than Tottenham!
Leeds have class Tottenham have none.
Just a two bit club from West London !
Well we're back so please do hate us again, we thrive on it. #ALAW
@@angie-smart-but-casual Depends on the era you grew up in though doesn't it. If its a derby and you encounter supporters from another team all the time in your local area then the rivalry is going to stay strong no matter what leagues you are in. But if you are two teams from other ends of the country the rivalry is inevitably going to die down if they have barely played each other for 20 years, especially for younger fans. Chelsea-Leeds is a rivalry based off some particularly brutal sporting competitions in a bygone era, rather then any real political, geographic or other cultural factors (aside from your bog-standard North/South)
@@angie-smart-but-casual Im from Liverpool and Red. Our only big and consistent rivals are Everton, from the same city, and Man Utd who are down the road. Only other rivalries we have are temporary and based on form.
Neymar would have to retire, if he played in a game like this!!
neymar gets the shit kicked out of him every week
Neymar watched this video and went down injured
The F A Cup meant more in those days.
I saw Leeds play Chelsea at Elland Road a few times in the 60s and early 70s. They were usually excellent games to watch for the right reasons. Despite all the hyped fan hatred, the two teams got on well and used to socialise after games more than they did with other teams. But who wants to hear that?! ;) The Leeds game against Man City in Jan 78 made this look like Puss in Boots.
I was a 7 year old Chelsea fan back then. I love that team ,they played great football. Hutchinson ,Cooke and McCreadie were my favorites. Great times ,hated Leeds ,but they had some good player like Hunter.
Am wolves fan personally and I know Leeds had a bit of a reputation in 70s but after seeing that Chelsea were far dirtier players than Leeds. Ps good luck for rest of season you guys deserve it
Chelsea were normally angelic. Even Chopper Harris was so named because of his chopper- as a woodcutter, that is
I was at Old Trafford for the replay. My loyalties at the time were to long-forgotten Workington. The fouling and violence seemed unexceptional compared to what fourth division fans endured every week.
That being said, I always regarded Harris, Bremner, Hunter, Clarke, Osgood and almost everyone else on the field as people preferably not to be encountered on a dark night when in a bad mood.
Looking back, I don’t see much from the brutal superstars of the first division that wasn’t equalled - when the occasion demanded - by ‘Gentleman’ John Ogilvie, Joe Wilson (who after a transfer to Nottingham Forest did his best to end Bobby Charlton’s career), and Tony Geidmintis. As someone observed earlier, in the absence of a death certificate sendings off were rare.
I was invited to go training with Workington around 1979 when Tony Geidimintis had started coaching you. He also coached the pub team I played for. I was 16ish and declined the invite. What an idiot, I was.
Sad to say that so many of the players, Managers and coaching staff from both teams are now no longer with us. Hope they are all having a good kick about and a drink up above ! MOT
I was 6 years old and can recall watching this game with my dad and Uncle Tony.. THIS is football !!
Here from Leeds v Leicester on 25/04/2023 😆
I was 18 then, watched both games, and I can tell you now both Leeds & Chelsea had some of the most brutal fans to match. As an Owls fan (waits for abuse...) you could just about predict crowd trouble from Leeds, Chelsea, Newcastle, and Man Utd fans. It's a wonder I managed to escape it all. I can remember coming home on a train from Leeds after playing them (1970 something, even late 1960s possibly) and packs of fans were going from carriage to carriage asking who you supported. If you had the wrong answer you were beaten up! Fortunately I answered correctly.
That was part of the fun.Getting out of the ground and getting to a train station.And practicing accents
With no club colours.
No abuse for an Owls fan- suffered enough already.
awesome video man 💙💛
Billy Bremner was a Scottish legend
My earliest FA Cup Final memory is swinging on the front gate waiting for my dad to come and take me for the weekly Saturday afternoon walk to watch our local team Sway or walk in the forest and find Forestry Commission fire Lookouts or walk along the disused railway which originally ran to Poole. For the first time I experienced Eternity as he sat indoors watching the Wembley Final of Leeds v Chelsea whilst I swung back and forth above the gravel path at Tebourba Cottages.
i was 14 then and loved very minute of these matches coz it was like xmas you only got one live match a year ,the cup final unless it was a draw then u got 2 lol
Ended up with furniture broken in the living room of my house in Leeds as the family watched the match. I progressed onto stadiums at Molineux and Parc des Princes 😂
And our scoreboard😁
I remember watching these two matches, the best games i ever saw, As the title says the 2nd game was Brutal.
Yup . One of the very best finals ever .
I remember watching the games as a kid, I supported Chelsea and many of my friends supported leeds because they were the dominant team back then, probably the dirtiest with Bremner, charton and company .
well, Everton won the league comfortably, though Leeds had won it the previous year and came close to FA Cup and lost in European Cup semi to Celtic. It's generally thought they maybe should have won a couple more trophies in the Revie era. They lost the 73 final v Sunderland, were pipped in the league with the famous West Brom goal not given offside. In 75, with Armfield as manager they were unlucky v Bayern in the European Cup final. As a Chelsea fan they were the team i least liked, all the same, but they played their part in important childhood memories- those were the days when the regular XI (and couple of subs) of the top teams would roll off the tongue.
Ah the great Charlie Cook ,the quiet Scot,when I was a kid he was always my favourite player.Respect to Leeds and their supporters this was when men were men a lads!😊
My dad told Bobby Calder,the west of scotland scout for Aberdeen about Cookie who was with Renfrew Juniors. He went straight into the first team for the opening game at Pittodrie and was sensational. I was there and still think he was the most skillfull player I ever saw and was always my favourite.
The days when the ball hit the back of the net and you could celebrate instead of waiting for a VAR decision.
Technological progress = spiritual/aesthetic regression
This was back in the day when physios ran on to the pitch with a dirty bucket of water and a magic sponge to treat injuries and tell the player to run the injury off, which was usually a broken leg.
And all those players seem to be prematurely dropping of like flies at present! Bremner, Osgood, and Hutchinson went years ago, and Hunter, Madeley, Bonetti, and now Lorimer have gone early. Maybe there's a connection !
When players were't sceared to make tackles..today Messi can run from one end of the pitch to the other end.and no one tackles Him!
They can`t get the ball of Messi. They could`nt get it of Maradona either but back then they were allowed to abuse him
Spot on mate I think Messi is up there with the best ever but you don't see tackles anymore .
@@martynjago9030I love watching the greats get to play instead of being blocked with violence on them. Maradona would have done twice his winnings if he had had the protection from thug tackles.
Safe to say that ‘back in the day’ Messi wouldn’t have had a career!😂
That`s ridiculous. He`s the best player in the world. We would have seen less of the magic though if he had been brutalized off the ball as Maradona was
Back when the FA Cup final was just about the only live club football on TV. A midweek replay after the draw was a real extra bonus.
A replay 3 days later after a draw...no wonder they were in a bad mood
Suggs on the overlap brought me here!
Look at state of pitch and a heavy ball, yet these players have control.
Watch on TH-cam.. Man city v Spurs played on ice , 1967 I think . The skill will never be seen again .
Rip all you legends
I think it was 1975 when Leeds lost the FA Cup, the European Cup Final and the league all within a couple of weeks. The Scots players Billy Bremnerand Lorimer are genuine legends.
It was actually the 1969/70 season. Because of the World Cup in Mexico, the domestic season ended earlier than usual. Within the space of a few weeks, Leeds narrowly missed out in the League title, lost in the European Cup semifinal to Celtic and lost in this Cup Final replay.
@@carnalea2424 Everton won the league quite comfortably.
Don't forget the wonderful Eddie Gray!
Leeeds United were one of the best teams at the time but also arguably the dirtiest. They used to bully and try to intimidate rivals but Chelsea were as hard as nails and never backed down. Both teams had their share of near psychopaths. Leeds had Bremner, Giles, Hunter and Charlton but Chelsea had Harris, Osgood, Webb and Hutchinson and I really enjoyed games between the two sides
Yeah as a neutral , brilliant game , loved the early / mid 70s
That defeat still hurts now. 2 unbelievable matches.