Massan Exposed Again, And Again, And Again

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  • @RafaelEChavez
    @RafaelEChavez 8 ปีที่แล้ว +323

    It's only a matter of time before Massan is banished from the Hearthstone community. FeelsGoodMan

    • @JamilJslibi
      @JamilJslibi 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      he is not gonna be banished, everything that they told on the video happened a long time ago, if they didnt do anything to him since that, he is not going to be punished.

    • @Nosbled
      @Nosbled 8 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      +Jamil Inumanox but now he's been exposed. they didn't do anything before cause it hadn't gone public but I think the people will demand action to be taken. that's what I hope for anyways

    • @shashwatashiya5701
      @shashwatashiya5701 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Jamil Inumanox his streaming career is over.

    • @LikeGodzzila
      @LikeGodzzila 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Shashwat Ashiya No, it's not at all.
      This doesn't have any impact and NOTHING is going to happen to him unless something REALLY, REALLY, REALLLLLLLLLLLY OBVIOUS HAPPENS, and if he is careful enough that will never happen - so yeh, things will just keep going the way they are.

    • @latethefin
      @latethefin 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why the fk do you even care? You think you or our opinion matters one bit? No.

  • @WizardPoker
    @WizardPoker  8 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    Thumbnail is a reference to the Terrabotta army, amazingly told here - th-cam.com/video/Gud2ScOj9BQ/w-d-xo.html
    Sorry guys I accidentaly dropped my bag of additional evidence...
    1. Viewbots exposed - th-cam.com/video/TluAo6c71_4/w-d-xo.html (Especially note my comment in this video and your reply, Inormous)
    2. Inormous = Wolfssan - th-cam.com/video/He49b6Lttjw/w-d-xo.html
    3. Accidentaly showing the same thing on Massan stream (presumably because Inormous was stream ID sharing) - th-cam.com/video/l38J_JReFgQ/w-d-xo.html
    4. Reckful on the viewbots - th-cam.com/video/jDmz7UZG6dM/w-d-xo.html
    5. Massan tries to defend himself from Reckful’s accusations - th-cam.com/video/fAkchcUw9qE/w-d-xo.html
    6. Amaz was botted by Massan confirmed - th-cam.com/video/wJ7qqW1nZm4/w-d-xo.html
    7. Twinge Twitch data shows strange viewcounts - th-cam.com/video/WB4S_3WagME/w-d-xo.html
    8. Massan ‘defends’ himself from Reckful - th-cam.com/video/fkQizeuS4JU/w-d-xo.html
    9. Massan’s ‘marketing manager’ aka ‘puppetmaster’ solves all the drama with his amazing insights! - th-cam.com/video/c1-sxqoqS5A/w-d-xo.html
    10. This post accussing Amaz of viewbotting is CONFIRMED to come from Massan’s IP address - www.teamliquid.net/forum/closed-threads/456140-amazs-stream-viewers-bots
    11. Background info on Massan viewbotting - www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/40bc7i/massan_elegiggle/
    Additional evidence by viewers - www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/40edl7/massans_viewbot_evidence/
    12. More background info on Massan viewbotting - www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/40ediy/new_proof_that_massan_is_using_bots_to_increase/
    13. 100% proof of Massan viewbotting - www.reddit.com/r/forsen/comments/3x3l6q/100_proof_that_massan_is_viewbotting/
    14. Inormous tries defending the accusations, flawlessly. Kappa - www.reddit.com/r/forsen/comments/40gn5i/inormous_answering_questions_about_massan_botting/
    15. Massan pretty much is Inormous - www.reddit.com/r/reckful/comments/405zhw/massan_is_inormous/
    16. Here is evidence of Massan and Inormous sharing stream keys - www.reddit.com/r/reckful/comments/3zvben/massan_and_his_mod_inormous_sharing_stream_keys/
    17. Chat speed comparison - www.reddit.com/r/forsen/comments/3qf1yl/mrdestructoid_massans_chat_mrdestructoid/
    18. Massan attempting to cover up the drama - www.reddit.com/r/forsen/comments/402ejg/massan_trying_to_cover_it_up_elegiggle/
    19. Massan’s Twitter follower count much lower than expected from a streamer that big - www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/3z8698/massans_twitter_only_has_168k_followers/
    20. More possible proof of viewbotting - www.reddit.com/r/reckful/comments/3wpn34/massan_viewbotting_possible_proof/
    21. Massan’s chat to view ratio exposed -
    www.reddit.com/r/forsen/comments/400mxh/massan_chatter_to_viewer_ratio/
    22. Chat to view ratios for streamers in the same timeslot, Massan is clearly much lower than others - www.reddit.com/r/forsen/comments/401bkw/chattersviewer_ratio_for_hearthstone_streamers/
    23. Massan responds to Reckfuls claims - www.reddit.com/r/forsen/comments/3y6ykz/massans_response_to_reckfuls_viewbot_claims/
    24. Inormous (aka the puppetmaster) hating on the haters - oddshot.tv/shot/inormous-2016011111218903 -
    25. Inormous defends himself from the accusations, but ends up shittalking my TH-cam channel WizardPoker because I uploaded several videos regarding Massan - www.twitch.tv/inormous/v/34083978 -
    26. The continued stream of the previous one with more hate - www.twitch.tv/inormous/v/34085023
    27. User history says enough about a person, generally - www.reddit.com/user/inormous

    • @Thinkingthinker
      @Thinkingthinker 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Wow massan is so legit EleGiggle

    • @antlersoap
      @antlersoap 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I love this kind of stuff. thanks based wizardpoker

    • @KILLERGFX1
      @KILLERGFX1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Holy Skagsuck! That's a lot of "Confirmed" Viewbotting evidence...No wonder why Massan has been streaming without cam and with voice modulators

    • @KILLERGFX1
      @KILLERGFX1 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Floris Leysen True Enough...you never know...still this situation just sucks

    • @fractyon3344
      @fractyon3344 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      +WizardPoker There is more than 9 different sources of evidence, that might be too confusing for hearthstone players BabyRage

  • @juha135
    @juha135 8 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    This channel is the shit. Someone should make a tv series based on hearthstone drama lol.

    • @Dall_
      @Dall_ 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +juha135 It is already..

    • @parkerhahaha
      @parkerhahaha 8 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Keeping up with the Hearthstonians

    • @smeetz
      @smeetz 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +juha135 Are you one of the viewbots?

    • @Shadowbrodie
      @Shadowbrodie 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +TH-cam Name Why would a shitsan viewbot be on wizardpoker's channel?

    • @smeetz
      @smeetz 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Brodie Kelly beebop bbibii didnt read the shit thought is shit beeeebop

  • @TheWavetwister
    @TheWavetwister 8 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    WitchhuntBoys

    • @kormannn1
      @kormannn1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      +TheWavetwister
      B O T H U N T B O Y S

    • @Shatamx
      @Shatamx 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +TheWavetwister BOTGATE BOYS

    • @nonofurbizness
      @nonofurbizness 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +TheWavetwister BU L L Y B O Y S

  • @unluckygamer692
    @unluckygamer692 8 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    MrDestructoid master is not viewbotti.... error 420 10100111000

    • @Bubba93000
      @Bubba93000 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Ẵłŧḿàx nice ONE SHALL NOT DISTURB MASTER :D

    • @OdinixBigBang
      @OdinixBigBang 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Bubba Watson BUT TWO SHALL DISTURB

  • @ThunderingRoar
    @ThunderingRoar 8 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    And the little respect i had for him is gone now :]

    • @JamilJslibi
      @JamilJslibi 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah, me too, i am even thinking about unsub to him. (even if his videos are pretty funny)

    • @JamilJslibi
      @JamilJslibi 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** yeah... If at least he talked about that, but he is just ignoring all this drama without any explanation. Btw its funny how in every video there is someone saying: "i am not a bot. Bip bop bip"

  • @Authanatik
    @Authanatik 8 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Went on Massans stream yesterday, sub mode, 4 comments in 1 minute, 2 of those where night bot...

    • @enclave9614
      @enclave9614 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Daniel Rossi 4Head

    • @kkokay4
      @kkokay4 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Daniel Rossi exposed again

    • @Ruffokl
      @Ruffokl 8 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      By the way, guys, have you ever seen Myassan's subs somewhere outside of his channel? I mean, I see TrumpW, ForsenW, AmazW etc very often, but I have never ever seen any MassanW or other his sub emoticons somewhere else.

    • @mamspugeti6931
      @mamspugeti6931 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      +Ruffokl I see Massan emoticons everywhere MrDestructoid

  • @ProjectJamesify
    @ProjectJamesify 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These content creators that do messed up, shady shit should be publicly exposed.
    Totally unfair to the honest, hardworking content creators.
    Respect for Thijs. He's just an honest, Dutch guy trying to make a living doing what he loves doing best. He's a huge inspiration to me.

  • @JamilJslibi
    @JamilJslibi 8 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    2:38 "the hearthstone community is really good in keeping secrets"
    i wonder if there is a shit ton of drama that hearthstones players dont want to expose...

    • @garytheclone1890
      @garytheclone1890 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      +Jamil Inumanox Forsen is in relationship with Scamaz ofc.

    • @zaqwsx28
      @zaqwsx28 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Jamil Inumanox my popcorns are ready SaltyCorn

    • @robby12320
      @robby12320 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Jamil Inumanox Yes, you don't even wanna know. Or, well, I guess you do wanna know haha

    • @JamilJslibi
      @JamilJslibi 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      socratis must... Resist... The drama... Just kidding, Feed me more.

    • @rlancs20
      @rlancs20 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jamil Inumanox I'd have thought you'd want to play and trigger your secrets, what's the point of keeping secrets in hand anyway? :P

  • @JamilJslibi
    @JamilJslibi 8 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    about those streamers that said about massan disconnecting during tornaments was pretty disgusting to believe, but when dad confirmed this i knew it was true.

    • @LeTrickyTrickster
      @LeTrickyTrickster 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Jamil Inumanox "confirmed" - by repeating what others have said? That is really confirming it. (Y)

    • @JamilJslibi
      @JamilJslibi 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      *****​ ...yeah, if someone tells me something and another person tells me the same, that thing is being confirmed by 2 persons.

    • @LeTrickyTrickster
      @LeTrickyTrickster 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jamil Inumanox It's pretty funny how they all wait before talking about this.
      Surely if Amaz knew this was going on at the time, he would not have let MaSsan have the win and prize money?

    • @JamilJslibi
      @JamilJslibi 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** probably.

    • @LeTrickyTrickster
      @LeTrickyTrickster 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jamil Inumanox Funny how Forsen acts like Amaz, and everyone else, knew at the time then.

  • @kormannn1
    @kormannn1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He tried to conquire Twitch but I guess his evil plans gone wrong.

  • @Abyssic1
    @Abyssic1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i was very sceptical at first towards the viewbot accusations but i'm actually convinced now.

  • @ivantavarez535
    @ivantavarez535 8 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    WizardPoker, can you tell me your thoughts about this issue?

    • @WizardPoker
      @WizardPoker  8 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      +Ivan Tavarez Massan and Inormous are basically a team. Massan is the visible part, the face. He is actually pretty good at the game. Inormous does the 'marketing' for him, being the creation of his YT channel, doing tweets, etc. This also includes managing the viewcount: possibly viewbots. There is suggested proof but it does not 100% prove Massan is doing the viewbotting himself. Viewbots are there though, thats a fact. Inormous is also the person behind the software, he created Wolfssan, he is responsible for the voice changer. The fact that Massan at some point last month never showed his face anymore and used voice changer indicates Inormous is likely behind most of the streams as of lately, roleplaying Massan in a digital wolf/santa suit + voicechanger. The evidence suggests that most of these streams are prerecorded and 100% certainly are played on the Hearthstone account of InormousD.
      When it comes to the tournament scams, that is just in line with the shady streaming activities. Fake disconnecting to get a better starting hand can easily be faked and is a beginners way to rig a tournament without being accused. Selling a tournament spot is not uncommon in the Starcraft scene, which is where Massan came from. It is not illegal, but to say it is 'fair play' would be silly.
      The way the PR is managed by Inormous, the agressiveness and the replies to literally anything that comes close to Massan viewbotting, indicates a classic 'lets fire everything off and go all-in to save my face'. Any person not guilty would simply disregard the accusations eventually as nonsense and move on. The fact that they go against it so agressively indicates guilt to me. I have personally been attacked by Inormous on TH-cam and Reddit multiple times. He did the same with all of the streamers accusing him, especially reckful (see the oddshot in my top comment @ this video).
      Also, Massan attempted to save his own face in my first video (in the comments) but ended up 'agreeing' with me and take things on with Reckful. This really shows Massans character, he gives in quickly. Inormous took advantage of this most likely when he created his streaming empire (with Massan as the face), and dragged him with him in his little scheme of shady twitch activities. Inormous is the brains, Massan is probably an employee of Inormous. This is reconfirmed by Inormous on his latest stream. He spoke about his admiration for Amaz to change the Scamaz thing into a meme, hoping to be able to do the same with the viewbot thing for Massan. It shows Inormous is the brains, the strategist behind all the activities. He is the real devil in this story, Massan just follows his lead most likely. Both are equally guilty to me since they are both heavily involved in all this. I lost all my respect for both of them after some heavy digging into the accusations around the web.

    • @ivantavarez535
      @ivantavarez535 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      i completely agree, also i digged some new info proving massan inconsistencies again: (aayylmao when will he learn)
      Massan using a alt reddit account on stream to defend himself: imgur.com/gallery/UO1uE
      Massan with 'Eastern Time' (same as inormous) instead of korean: imgur.com/89DVy80

    • @WizardPoker
      @WizardPoker  8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Ivan Tavarez Yeah I encountered both of these issues as well when doing research. Timezone difference suddenly when he plays on InormousD account. And the actual proof of the Reddit alts is a good catch, this must have been a very recent stream? I know Massan uses multiple Reddit alts including this one, but never seen him showing the account name on stream.

    • @WizardPoker
      @WizardPoker  8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +keypenboardcil Massan only focused on Starcraft back in the day, maybe Inormous contacted him to set up a Hearthstone stream? I don't know much about their history. I do know Inormous was the guy who contacted me once (like a year ago) to become an editor for Massan's youtube channel, they could not find anyone to do it. Never really thought much of it, but looking back on that I wonder why I never could come into contact with Massan about it and was forced to discuss all matters with Inormous. Never took the editing job by the way, good thing I didnt lol. Also I agree with Zeus here, Massan only focuses on playing the games, he probably doesnt know anything about marketing or promoting his stream, let alone knowing something about the software he uses now (voice changer, wolfssan shit). Inormous was actively testing it on stream, which makes it pretty clear he is the one doing the technical side of things. And also everything behind the scenes such as, like I said how Inormous attempted to hire me once, contacting people for jobs to outsource.

    • @LeTrickyTrickster
      @LeTrickyTrickster 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +WizardPoker "Massan only focused on Starcraft back in the day, maybe Inormous contacted him to set up a Hearthstone stream?"
      Actually, his monitor broke and he had to use a TV for a while. The response time was too bad for him to continue playing Starcraft, so he planned to take a break from Starcraft until he got his new monitor. His friend gave him a Hearthstone beta key, and he played Hearthstone since.

  • @zeekawesomecus917
    @zeekawesomecus917 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Feel like I've watched this exact video but before Jan 11th, 2016. Even the beginning.

  • @lilgaydevon
    @lilgaydevon 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    i appreciate the subtle jokes in the captions
    "we are all mrdestructoid" was a good one

  • @MrGamesDean
    @MrGamesDean 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Like, we are all humans MrDestructoid " EleGiggle

  • @karandex
    @karandex 8 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Massan's youtube is so clickbaity. Is act fake with is rage face. He thinks he will become a meme or something.

    • @archgod_yt2431
      @archgod_yt2431 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's his normal thumbnail.

    • @braga6477
      @braga6477 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +Shawn Ho Yee Jing his thumbnail triggers me

    • @archgod_yt2431
      @archgod_yt2431 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Braga Selfors TRIGGERED EleNiggle
      Kappa

    • @braga6477
      @braga6477 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shawn Ho Yee Jing + (plus) that he does think he will become a meme. Even though his stream is cancer

    • @archgod_yt2431
      @archgod_yt2431 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Braga Selfors True

  • @Dankdonk
    @Dankdonk 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Continued drama FeelsGoodMan

  • @jackabsolute5525
    @jackabsolute5525 ปีที่แล้ว

    This part of hearthstone seemed like a lifetime ago.

  • @janherfs3063
    @janherfs3063 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Massan was surrounded by so many bots that he became a bot himself

  • @earweatwry46u7uy5i68
    @earweatwry46u7uy5i68 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Massan is the Darth Sidious to Scamaz's Darth Vader

  • @jacketoff8845
    @jacketoff8845 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    MasSan is MagicAmy confirmed.

  • @siegpasta
    @siegpasta 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have Soda reacted to this ? the "SCAMASSAN" tradgedy.

  • @Shatamx
    @Shatamx 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are becoming the best hearthstone content guy in the game. Thank you.

  • @persecom
    @persecom 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    ScaMaSsan? WutFace

  • @93hothead
    @93hothead 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everyone joining the drama train

  • @Parakaze
    @Parakaze 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    No bonus clip? FeelsBadMan

  • @GameStar117
    @GameStar117 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:13
    "Hello Wizardpoker PogChamp"

  • @Cosminen
    @Cosminen 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep these coming :)

  • @GuikofMikumo
    @GuikofMikumo 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    wait a second forsen hear the spider dance
    Forsen Hentai Confirmed

  • @ghuruzilla
    @ghuruzilla 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    ... I guess Massan is going down hill pretty dang fast...

  • @Zero_Shift
    @Zero_Shift 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Forsen with the Muffet music!

  • @VanCancerHolme
    @VanCancerHolme 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My song is in Forsen's part xD

  • @KILLERGFX1
    @KILLERGFX1 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Today is really the day...Scamasssaaaan is Born

  • @jedi92320
    @jedi92320 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    MichaelPls SaltyCorn MORE DRAMA MichaelPls SaltyCorn

  • @myfriendscallme7866
    @myfriendscallme7866 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    :( here for reckful

  • @Calphurnious
    @Calphurnious 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    And Blizzard says more than 9 deck slots will confuse players. Yet here we are solving crimes and navigating youtube channels. Almost complex as 9 deck slots.

  • @Napalmstrike15989
    @Napalmstrike15989 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    lol i love the robot meme everytime

  • @morphattack
    @morphattack 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    HS scene keeping drama, will we ever hear what the admin told Amaz and RDU?

  • @csortitoutseul
    @csortitoutseul 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    congratulations on your ballon d'Or, Lionel Massan

  • @TheMegaEggers
    @TheMegaEggers 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

  • @sergio7D
    @sergio7D 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Reddit is deleting every drama related post on r/hearthstone. +WizardPoker you are my only source BibleThump

  • @PineUpAll
    @PineUpAll 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rip patron warrior

    • @LordAJ12345
      @LordAJ12345 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nah, it should burn in hell.

  • @SmegCro
    @SmegCro 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    all in all I'm glad duelyst is getting some exposure due to this drama

  • @alsrudals3
    @alsrudals3 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It just looks like Massan just sold his twitch account. Inormous took over and now is streaming. Being thick enough to buy a account from Massan, Inormous fucks up and openly show that it is not Massan who is streaming.

    • @ThePainqT
      @ThePainqT 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Tom Min Hmmm thats a interesting idea . Still would be nice to hear a response from massan .

  • @HummelGeneral
    @HummelGeneral 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please. A moment of silence for our banned brother. He did his duty and we will miss him.

  • @matincatrat
    @matincatrat 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    jesus ._. they're saying the exact same things. That's almost scary.

  • @joinslayer
    @joinslayer 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who needs to watch a reality show on TV when there is a top notch drama like this on twitch?
    *grabs popcorn*

  • @gachiGASM
    @gachiGASM 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    NO BONUS CLIP, DansGame

  • @screweyedfoe
    @screweyedfoe 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    massan is with the mafia

  • @AgentCamtho1
    @AgentCamtho1 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    SCAMASSAN
    Amaz has been replaced!

  • @icemanauzHD
    @icemanauzHD 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    tips on closed captions?

  • @TOMASjBARTON
    @TOMASjBARTON 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    The subtitles are hilarious.

  • @ThaPingu
    @ThaPingu 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOULD, WEIRD, SHOULD!

  • @PentagonSteel
    @PentagonSteel 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Witcher 4: Botssan Hunt

  • @ShinuriGaming
    @ShinuriGaming 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    @WizardPoker, Massan came in to shaffer2369's chat a couple weeks ago asking for a lot of advice on CS:GO. I'm not sure if he plans on playing it in the future, but he was showing interest outside of Hearthstone (maybe trying to get away from it?).

  • @ConradHamlington
    @ConradHamlington 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haha the boy next door Spider dance xD

  • @AgentCamtho1
    @AgentCamtho1 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lets see how deep the viewbot hole goes

  • @Volnixz
    @Volnixz 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thijs really talks weird

    • @BolusTube
      @BolusTube 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +potatomaster I was wondering what did he mean with few bots, until I realized he means view bots.

    • @Volnixz
      @Volnixz 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Billy Marshall lol i know but guess he has an odd accent ;p

    • @TurtlesC4nFly
      @TurtlesC4nFly 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah, I'm Dutch aswell as Thijs. Some Dutch people are able to have no Dutch accent but most of them don't. Atleast Thijs' English is good. :)

    • @xgt1234
      @xgt1234 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      His english is quite decent, I would say. Accent is not something you can form or control easily.
      Also, for people whose first language isn't english, it's often actually easier to understand someone like him over a native english speaker.

    • @Volnixz
      @Volnixz 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +XDthejulianXD i know a lot of dutch people none of them speak like Thijs ;dddd

  • @cesardieguez3580
    @cesardieguez3580 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    scamassan

  • @Lizard1582
    @Lizard1582 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    what do you guys think about the new xvideos layout?

  • @GabelHUN
    @GabelHUN 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    BabyRage NEVER BONUS CLIP BabyRage

  • @umaovelha1
    @umaovelha1 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there an app to see chat after stream ?

  • @WhiteWyrm49
    @WhiteWyrm49 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    OLD DRAMA FeelsBadMan SaltyCorn

  • @blyjd91
    @blyjd91 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ahh... I love me some MaSsan drama!

  • @WaterMelwin
    @WaterMelwin 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is 3 years old why in my recommended

  • @depramin3886
    @depramin3886 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    When did all of this viewbot drama start in the first place?

  • @bobbybob3804
    @bobbybob3804 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    You just can't let this go can you, tell me, what good does repetition of the same message do?

    • @bobbybob3804
      @bobbybob3804 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      socratis That's a great argumentative point, I can see your blatant insight to this topic.

  • @fatjack2b
    @fatjack2b 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gotta agree with Thijs, this whole situation is getting really word.

  • @medoma1000
    @medoma1000 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    why is amaz's experience with MaSsan privat?

  • @llljjj007
    @llljjj007 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:55 What's that gachi song?

  • @LevRok
    @LevRok 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    All Umans in Turnaments.

  • @berter0295
    @berter0295 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    rest in Pepperoni Massan

  • @nothingbutboring314
    @nothingbutboring314 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    more drama PogChamp

  • @aaa-cd3nb
    @aaa-cd3nb 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why "Scamaz"? Was there an another drama I don't know about?

  • @TheGuyisHigh
    @TheGuyisHigh 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wasn't the IP of massan from a posting on team liquid's website complaining that amaz is viewbotting? I don't think that the viewbots themselves have an individual IP that could be traced back to Massan's house.

  • @Gumden
    @Gumden 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Isn't the first story by Thjis wrong? He confused the story about the liquid hearth post.

  • @kabutozeroEN
    @kabutozeroEN 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    much needed truth or much needed drama ? does this make your life easier ?

  • @Ecliptor.
    @Ecliptor. 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's really bird

  • @mrhappy192
    @mrhappy192 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to like Massan and didn't believe these things at first, but damn... He deserves to be banned and everything.

  • @imtheonewiththebestprofile5648
    @imtheonewiththebestprofile5648 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    now he has 3k

  • @Samurai-sg4yd
    @Samurai-sg4yd 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Hi wizard poker" 1:00

  • @Lius525
    @Lius525 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    lol Forsen gets subtitles

  • @dtymnn
    @dtymnn 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    subreddit good at keeping secrets? mysterious challenger getting buffed confirmed Kappa

  • @quarterland
    @quarterland 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    TWITCH DRAMA MichaelPls SaltyCorn

  • @realthoo
    @realthoo 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    dont know what going on anymore, i only subed him on youtube, but if we all the drama and so many ppl saying he is doing some false shit i may unsub him... sure its only 1 person, but perhapy some more will fellow if he doesnt explain himself soon

  • @thedude-sp8po
    @thedude-sp8po 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SCAMASSAN

    • @peteypariah6603
      @peteypariah6603 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Withror Pendragon You forgot the WutFace

  • @usernameeiinvalid
    @usernameeiinvalid 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    He really needs to man up and admit using viewbots. I don't even think he has learned because it's obvious he still uses them. He's hiding behind a shadow and it's honestly pathetic.

  • @thebadassdonut7367
    @thebadassdonut7367 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can someone start a petition to make twitch ban massan?

  • @jaaki94
    @jaaki94 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    HELLO TWITCH CHAT HeyGuys

  • @grasthube
    @grasthube 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    this story doesn't even make sense. if you purchase viewbots the IP will never come from your house, they are from botnets. networking 101

  • @zablablukas
    @zablablukas 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Secrets?Who am I?JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHNN CEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @BolusTube
    @BolusTube 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Link to Massan streaming with Inormouse battle net account www.twitch.tv/massansc/v/33536645

    • @VieneLea
      @VieneLea 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +BolusTube Why does Massan have such a robotic voice in the vid?

    • @JamilJslibi
      @JamilJslibi 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +VieneLea cause massan is a viewbot!! :O

    • @VieneLea
      @VieneLea 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jamil Inumanox But then... If a viewbot is watched by viewbots, doesn't it make this okay? :O

    • @JamilJslibi
      @JamilJslibi 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      VieneLea massan is the viewbot king, he can control all his robots just by his thoughts. Or what? You think that all those views could be controlled from just one computer? Pff, of course not, he have robots that access one computer each, and give him the views.

  • @awesomecoolepicawesome
    @awesomecoolepicawesome 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that WizardPoker's voice? HI

  • @BarackGamingObama
    @BarackGamingObama 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    If this is true, then Massan is really suspicious guy.
    He's accused of viewbotting, selling tournament spots and doing fake disconnects in tournaments...
    As long as first thing is not true, the other two were confirmed by even players of these tournaments he was playing against.
    Suspicious, right?

  • @GRMitsaras
    @GRMitsaras 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    rip

  • @TheAudioInjection
    @TheAudioInjection 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    What was the game the second guy was playing???

    • @drago6996
      @drago6996 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +TheAudioInjection Duelyst

    • @rmgvdv
      @rmgvdv 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +TheAudioInjection I think that's Duelyst

    • @TheAudioInjection
      @TheAudioInjection 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks fam

  • @goofy9738
    @goofy9738 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    VOICE IS CHANGED MrDestructoid CAM IS GONE MrDestructoid 10000 BOTS MrDestructoid YEP IT'S MASSAN

  • @isosnitsky
    @isosnitsky 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    MaSsan did nothing wrong, beebop beep

  • @CaptainJelloman
    @CaptainJelloman 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subtitles at 3:32 LOL