+BADGER ON! seriously what the fuck ROFL the fact that they know the channel and watch these vids means THEYRE FUCKING CALLING THEMSELVES TH-cam FAGS ROFLMAO WHAT THE FUCK ARE KIDS ON TWITCH SMOKING THESE DAYS LMAOO thats like shithead levels of stupid ROFL :D DansGame TWITCH FAGS DansGame ROFL :D srs everyone watches both anyways so WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY ON ROFLOLO :DD
+J3n555 Lol I saw a similar donation on Reckful's stream then had to come back and see if it was actually you, turns out it was.. I wonder how many real viewers Massan will lose
+FuryXHD PC A lot of the current Hearthstone icons blew up during the beta period; at one time, a beta key could net you 3-500 dollars. I would watch people playing on twitch months before I got my beta invite. This pretty much carries over to today. I personally watched Kripp(arian) and Trump skyrocket during this period. Closed beta bgan Aug. 2013; open start of 2014. I got my invite Oct. 2013.
+ch2iss With Kripp it was kind of an accident that he stumbled on Hearthstone. He couldn't log in to play Final Fantasy online so he tried out a Hearthstone key a viewer sent him and the rest is history. It's funny nowadays he won';t even consider playing any other game viewers recommend to him, not like the old days. Hearthstone has totally taken over.
+Undead Nightorc HS brings in the viewers for him, you can see when reyfag and massanbot play other games they lose 90% of their viewers. i think HS just has a lot of lol moments and there is a lot of thinking/communicating at a steady pace... but i do miss kripp wow days.
+Linus Nilsson Really? Last time I watched Sellout Kripp play PoE dude had like 6-8k viewers on PoE when he had 20k+ on HS. The reason he doesn't want to stream other games is because he doesn't get as much money, he knows his channel won't last forever so he's gotta cash out now.
+totallymageful nah ppl sometime don't like you playing other games i guess like Trump's stream for example his CIV5/pharmacy corp stream are around 1/3 the the amount of viewer of his normal HS session. Like you tune in expecting a LoL stream but you get a tetris stream (well something you don't expect to watch i mean)
I find it funny that he set this framing up for exactly ONE day before trying to pull that. He couldn't even bother to do it for like, a week first or anything. This is honestly hilarious.
I remember a while ago I saw massan streaming LoL. He had around 8k viewers and I was extremely extremely surprised that he had that many while when Amaz streamed he around 2-3k.
LOL I remember something like that. I was watching his stream on 2014, maybe around june, I don't remember. They both queued on each other(both top 2 streaming in HS twitch). Amaz was playing(I think) Priest, and Massan played Rouge(Miracle). Chat started to get the Massan-Amaz drama. I jumped then on Massan's stream. A LOT of people got timed out from Massan's channel, because he banned "Amaz" word on his channel. After that day I was guessing "Why does Massan hate Amaz?", he didn't mention Amaz on the 2 matches they played(Amaz won first, they queued again ranked and now Massan won). Amaz was kinda like "Yeah, he seems to not like me", that was very weird. Like, why would you ban another Streamer's name from your channel? And at the time, Massan lived with his mom(Mamassan).
I was in Massans channel a couple of days ago at like oh idk 4 in the morning central time maybe a bit earlier and he had like 4k viewers playing CSGO and was doing a giveaway and the way to enter the giveaway was to talk in chat. I shit you not, maybe 100 people said somethiung i've never seen a 4k chat move so slow while entering a giveaway it was insane.
Is there actually a way to hack an IP adress? "An Internet Protocol address (IP address) is a numerical label assigned to each device (e.g., computer, printer) participating in a computer network that uses the Internet Protocol for communication." It's assigned to each device (like computer) - can it be hackable?
Depending on the proxies involved and how locally the IP could be resolved, if this story is true, it probably proves that whoever made the post was, at best, originating from South Korea, and at worst, simply using the same proxy as Massan. Let me remind you, if it is possible to determine a streamers IP, especially one as popular as Massan's, they would be permanently DDOSd. There is zero chance they would be able to resolve Massan's actual IP from skype records.
What I don't understand is, aren't those viewbots expensive? Don't they cost way more than Twitch earns him? I just googled the prices and it's like 40-50$ for 475 bots. If he has thousands, it wouldn't pay off at all, plus ruins his reputation. So I don't get why he should do it? Can someone explain?
+MagicLaura In the short term it might be but in the long term he won't need the bots since people will be used to going to his channel because its always on top. But that's still very expensive though. Maybe he has some kind of secret sponsor helping him.
I was there and it was pretty funny actually because after all of that was said, he sent a $2 donation that said "check skype" and he had spammed Amaz things about how his "IP was hacked" after it a chat went crazy
+yoshi75013 It's a pretty long time. If you live to be 75 that's 1/50th of your entire lifespan. Think of doing anything only fifty times, that's such a small number of repetitions that you better hope it feels like a long time.
If MaSsan is connecting through a public VPN, he would have the same IP address as hundreds/thousands of users. This doesn't prove anything for certain.
#FreeWizardPoker! Just some questions to you, what are the restrictions on the channel? Has reynad specified specific time limit? Is it just that and no more noodles "getting legendary"? And does he even have the right to remove your videos if he doesnt "like" them? Sorry for so many questions elegiggle. But hey, one good thing is that the reynoodle is probably watching ur videos! :D (even tho he is salty)
+Noah Berg Raynad put a strike on his channel so now hes not allowed to post longer videos, use certain clips, or use some of youtubes tools for 6 months
Well that's funny. So Massan was basically jealous, because somebody had too many views and he wanted some extra ones too, and he saw this great idea of viewbotting, so why would he not try it. Or it's his mom, that is definitely a possibility. Interesting drama, like seriously, they should make a movie about this.
![[Hearthstone] Hero Cards Don’t Belong In Arena](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/FA5k5BQhYqk/mqdefault.jpg)
Hey Massan, so there's this guy named Trolden on TH-cam that I need taken care of...
+Disguised Toast Oh you!!
+Disguised Toast One piece of toast for every 1000 bots, Mr. Toast.
lel
+Disguised Toast Hahahahahaha fucking 10/10
+Disguised Toast eat weed m9
A small loan of 10k viewers
Top kek
+sarftie i said that in my head the moment he said that
+sarftie I'm glad I'm not the only one who though of exactly that.
Fake And Gayy
+sarftie Thank you.
I wonder how Massan's 8 viewers are going to defend him now EleGiggle
MrDestructoid BEEP BOOP BEEP MrDestructoid
+Didums222 he actually makes good content so people watch him instead of chatting 4Head
+Didums222 "Amaz is such a liar! Just ask Reynad!"
+BEASTfckingCOAST sigh... someone broke his Sarcasmometer...
+Undead Nightorc Reynaldo
this is a good drama series
+Mayo MaSsan Chronicles
+Virt Uaali MaSsan is digging his own grave...
banning people, not discussing wtf is happening, his stream spikes 10k after 20 min of streaming
I find this drama more dramatical and funnier than Tyggbar situation.
+Mayo It's better than Breaking bad!
Yep, Twitch drama is the best.
Tfw Amaz doesn't Scamaz you but is a good guy
u2 m'8
Super late video today. And what video it is. If this isn't exposed I don't know what is. Happy holidays everyone!
+WizardPoker I love you
Is it any joke about molten giant card?
+WizardPoker FEED ME MORE! I NEED MOAR!
+WizardPoker I don't know if you should trust amaz. His meme name "Scamaz" has its origin you know?
+WizardPoker inb4 massan comments on this video trying to defend himself EleGiggle
IP HACKED B O Y S
+uErkinable btw Massan said in Skype to Amaz that he was hacked so he didn't do it lmao
+uErkinable Hacking ip EleGiggle
Floopozord tell that to Massan 4Head
+uErkinable if he surely said he didnt do it! that must be truuee!!!
IP HACKED MingLee
3:33 spotted WizardPoker
SMOrc
+DJ KARL THE DOG FACE NEVER TRADE
You are pretty good at finding the face
"Getting 10k viewers you know, still starting"
Still starting, my ass! Starting is when you're sitting there streaming alone multiple times.
+AVBanter XDDD!!!!!
God Tier comment
Funny how Wizard Poker is popular enough that when drama happens people say
"HeyGuys Hi Wizard Poker HeyGuys"
You made it buddy!
+BADGER ON! seriously what the fuck ROFL the fact that they know the channel and watch these vids means THEYRE FUCKING CALLING THEMSELVES TH-cam FAGS ROFLMAO WHAT THE FUCK ARE KIDS ON TWITCH SMOKING THESE DAYS LMAOO thats like shithead levels of stupid ROFL :D
DansGame TWITCH FAGS DansGame ROFL :D srs everyone watches both anyways so WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY ON ROFLOLO :DD
Dr K xD
Wtf massan tried to get amaz banned
Lost my respect for Massan. Last time I tune in for him.
+J3n555 Lol I saw a similar donation on Reckful's stream then had to come back and see if it was actually you, turns out it was.. I wonder how many real viewers Massan will lose
+Sam De Cuyper Lol! :D merry xmas bruh
You too bud:)
+Sam De Cuyper
He lost none, because he did not have any.
+DrSandwich SHOTS FIRED
10k views = small streamer.... FeelsBadMan
2019 now... Amaz averages 6k viewers.
@@trythis610 2k now PepeLaugh
@@hyper_5pace902 200 viewers now 🥺🥺🥺
SCAMASSAN WutFace
MrDestructoid Reporting for Duty MrDestructoid
+Armando Montero DansGame TH-cam FAGS DansGame ROFLOLO :D GET FUCKIN REKT KID :D
-twitch kids :D
small days...10-15k viewers.........
+FuryXHD PC A lot of the current Hearthstone icons blew up during the beta period; at one time, a beta key could net you 3-500 dollars. I would watch people playing on twitch months before I got my beta invite. This pretty much carries over to today. I personally watched Kripp(arian) and Trump skyrocket during this period. Closed beta bgan Aug. 2013; open start of 2014. I got my invite Oct. 2013.
+ch2iss With Kripp it was kind of an accident that he stumbled on Hearthstone. He couldn't log in to play Final Fantasy online so he tried out a Hearthstone key a viewer sent him and the rest is history. It's funny nowadays he won';t even consider playing any other game viewers recommend to him, not like the old days. Hearthstone has totally taken over.
+Undead Nightorc HS brings in the viewers for him, you can see when reyfag and massanbot play other games they lose 90% of their viewers.
i think HS just has a lot of lol moments and there is a lot of thinking/communicating at a steady pace...
but i do miss kripp wow days.
+Linus Nilsson Really? Last time I watched Sellout Kripp play PoE dude had like 6-8k viewers on PoE when he had 20k+ on HS. The reason he doesn't want to stream other games is because he doesn't get as much money, he knows his channel won't last forever so he's gotta cash out now.
+totallymageful nah ppl sometime don't like you playing other games i guess like Trump's stream for example his CIV5/pharmacy corp stream are around 1/3 the the amount of viewer of his normal HS session. Like you tune in expecting a LoL stream but you get a tetris stream (well something you don't expect to watch i mean)
This view botting shit is so cancerous. MaSsan is a good streamer and that's all that matters.
+Classy Clam lmao
It has not been easy for me, you know... I started of at Twitch.tv, my streaming gave me small loan of 10k viewers.
You misspelled "were" like 3 times in a row. Unsubbed and reported.
+Mike W (Yamickle) Yea I typed the subtitles at an insane fast rate at 1AM at night. I'm sure theres some spelling errors, I will fix them asap :)
If you are reading this, it is too late. You have already been subbed and unreported. Say goodbye to your precious channel
+Mike W (Yamickle) Are you from Tampon Storm? Trying to delete my channel? Kappa
WizardPoker no im also reporteding them too
+Mike W (Yamickle) Reported for misspellings?? God, you're fucking dumb.
I find it funny that he set this framing up for exactly ONE day before trying to pull that. He couldn't even bother to do it for like, a week first or anything. This is honestly hilarious.
I'm surprised no one's said anything about your TFS DBZA like intros on this and the previous videos. Me likey.
WizardPoker is the Rita Skeeter for hearthstone streams.
"You know, I was like starting up and stuff, I only had 10k viewers"
~Amaz
Hi Twitch Chat!! :D
you missed the part where massan messaged him FeelsBadMan
+Lized what did it say
+Ivan Tavarez Massan explained that he didn't but hacker stole his skype id/pw
holy crap, his excuses are getting worse by the hour
+Azrbrz but wouldn't connecting from a different place on his skype account have a different ip?
***** I don't know how does skype security works. But massan asserted someone in US logged in his skype while he has been in Korea.
Amaz the new Dtrump. A small streamer with 10k viewers.
I remember a while ago I saw massan streaming LoL. He had around 8k viewers and I was extremely extremely surprised that he had that many while when Amaz streamed he around 2-3k.
RDU's mom is guilty.
BEST
CHANNEL
EVER,
oh them delicious wizpoker drama.
This story looks like it could be bigger than the Magicamy fiasco. Now that was some great popcorn viewing.
Massan send his regards MrDestructoid
Game Over: Kasparov and the Machine making some influence right there
LOL I remember something like that.
I was watching his stream on 2014, maybe around june, I don't remember. They both queued on each other(both top 2 streaming in HS twitch). Amaz was playing(I think) Priest, and Massan played Rouge(Miracle). Chat started to get the Massan-Amaz drama.
I jumped then on Massan's stream. A LOT of people got timed out from Massan's channel, because he banned "Amaz" word on his channel. After that day I was guessing "Why does Massan hate Amaz?", he didn't mention Amaz on the 2 matches they played(Amaz won first, they queued again ranked and now Massan won). Amaz was kinda like "Yeah, he seems to not like me", that was very weird.
Like, why would you ban another Streamer's name from your channel?
And at the time, Massan lived with his mom(Mamassan).
+Rodrigo Tamagusku Mamassan xD
I guess this story will never end. Doesn't matter, I have a lot of popcorn.
Could you make a video explaining the reynad situation? or explain it to me? (:
I was in Massans channel a couple of days ago at like oh idk 4 in the morning central time maybe a bit earlier and he had like 4k viewers playing CSGO and was doing a giveaway and the way to enter the giveaway was to talk in chat. I shit you not, maybe 100 people said somethiung i've never seen a 4k chat move so slow while entering a giveaway it was insane.
It is still possible that MaSsan's IP could be hacked. If this is true, man, the person that hacked the IP address can be a drama series producer.
I just love the little things in this channel - 05:49 amaz is really sketchy = amaz is scamaz
holy shiet dude thank god i subbed your channel, mind blown drama continues EleGiggle
RECKFUL HATERS GETS REKT!lmao..this clip was golden.
Crazy how popular WizardPoker is now hahaha the spam in chat ftw!
WizardPoker has better coverage of a dilemma than any kind of news station lol
It makes sense that massan's viewers are bots. He's very boring. I've tried to watch him because I wanted to know why he was so popular.
0.:23 There I am. Wizardpoker HeyGuys
I love how everyone goes HeyGuys HI WIZARDPOKER HeyGuys nowadays lol
Does no one else think that the voice in the beginning, sounds like a digitalised version of Massan.
What if Massan is... WizardPoker?
He started off with a small loan of 10k viewers
OH NO, THE PLOT THICKENS. This case looks straight out of Phoenix Wright's!
Magicamy just appeared on sjow chat it was 6:25 or 6:26 on his hearthstone clock PogChamp
"Small streamer...10 k viewers"
"A small loan of a million dollars"
RECKFUL NEED TO REACT TO DIS!
i love the drama
Must have been Massans mom again EleGiggle
now that's what i call twitch drama EleGiggle
"very small streamer" "just 10k, 15k viewers"
viewbot or not, massan still a great streamer
meh. he's alright
+Pedro Pk Kappa
+EhtaZUGGE nice argument bro
+EhtaZUGGE wow dude dos you mom hug you today?
+EhtaZUGGE just chill bro
Is there actually a way to hack an IP adress?
"An Internet Protocol address (IP address) is a numerical label assigned to each device (e.g., computer, printer) participating in a computer network that uses the Internet Protocol for communication."
It's assigned to each device (like computer) - can it be hackable?
That fucking chat...
Stirring good shit up
10k views small 4Head
Depending on the proxies involved and how locally the IP could be resolved, if this story is true, it probably proves that whoever made the post was, at best, originating from South Korea, and at worst, simply using the same proxy as Massan.
Let me remind you, if it is possible to determine a streamers IP, especially one as popular as Massan's, they would be permanently DDOSd. There is zero chance they would be able to resolve Massan's actual IP from skype records.
When i was still a small streamer with ''only 10k viewers''
Btw my IP matches with like 100500 other IP's coz I am under NAT, not talking about proxy etc.
What I don't understand is, aren't those viewbots expensive? Don't they cost way more than Twitch earns him? I just googled the prices and it's like 40-50$ for 475 bots. If he has thousands, it wouldn't pay off at all, plus ruins his reputation. So I don't get why he should do it? Can someone explain?
+MagicLaura In the short term it might be but in the long term he won't need the bots since people will be used to going to his channel because its always on top. But that's still very expensive though. Maybe he has some kind of secret sponsor helping him.
+MagicLaura He uses viewbots to get to the top of the streamers, because of that he gets noticed and real viewers join his channel.
December, 2015:
MaSsaan is still obviously viewbotting, people still pretending it doesn't happen.
DOPE vid! keep em comin:)
SHOTS FIRED!
PogChamp video is up PogChamp
I was there and it was pretty funny actually because after all of that was said, he sent a $2 donation that said "check skype" and he had spammed Amaz things about how his "IP was hacked" after it a chat went crazy
Yeah no i was just streaming with 10k viewers, just starting out, 10k viewers is nothing guys
That guy needs to understand that 1.5 year ago is not "a super long time ago" like he said 16544 times.
+yoshi75013 It's a pretty long time. If you live to be 75 that's 1/50th of your entire lifespan. Think of doing anything only fifty times, that's such a small number of repetitions that you better hope it feels like a long time.
+Chrystian Bis no it is not.
"I was a small streamer, only getting 10k viewers"
Also I find it believable that's massan since he types like the guy who typed the forum post. TWITCH POLICE PLEASE DO SOMETHING.
0:30 luxas_hs: HeyGuys HI TH-cam
HeyGuys WIZARDPOKER HeyGuys WIZARDPOKER HeyGuys
People actually care if Massan viewbots EleGiggle
#FreeWizardPoker
honestly, that's just anecdotal evidence. I think it's more possible that he just viewbotted himself to make drama
"I was a small streamer with 10-15k veiwers" Are you kidding me?!?!
at the end of the video i wanted to watch how Amaz was confused about IQ lvls and I couldn't click it but i could click the other one. Plz fix
When amaz said that the ip matched with massans Skype, someone in the chat said massans mom xD
HeyGuys WizardPoker HeyGuys
Amaz backtraced his IP, he done goofed! The internet police is on its way
Geez 2021 lol
Is Massan streaming or did he quit?
Hope Twitch get more into it and ban him already, he won't admit it otherwise
I dont get the joke with the molten giants...
This is great.
VIEWS UP! RED ALARM!
If MaSsan is connecting through a public VPN, he would have the same IP address as hundreds/thousands of users. This doesn't prove anything for certain.
A very small streamer... when I used to get 10k viewers. WOWWW sooo small.
Hearthstone scandal PogChamp EleGiggle
Japan vs Korea, just like the old days! EleGiggle
MrDestructoid Fear the Korean power, for grorious leader MrDestructoid
I thought Maybe someone else was botting his channel and he didn't know, but now it's clear he knows the way of the bots. Beep boop beep
Hello wizard pooker good vido keep updating us on the massan viewbot shit
Where did this whole scamaz thing come from? what started it?
+Plague Doc Check this. www.gamefaqs.com/boards/710060-hearthstone-heroes-of-warcraft/71433783
Merry Christmas :)
+George V Nice profile picture bro
#FreeWizardPoker!
Just some questions to you, what are the restrictions on the channel? Has reynad specified specific time limit? Is it just that and no more noodles "getting legendary"? And does he even have the right to remove your videos if he doesnt "like" them? Sorry for so many questions elegiggle. But hey, one good thing is that the reynoodle is probably watching ur videos! :D (even tho he is salty)
With no more (rey)noodles getting legendary i mean no more reynad on the channel
What is The "free wizard poker" thing?
+Noah Berg Raynad put a strike on his channel so now hes not allowed to post longer videos, use certain clips, or use some of youtubes tools for 6 months
+BluAspect fucking saltnad
Well that's funny. So Massan was basically jealous, because somebody had too many views and he wanted some extra ones too, and he saw this great idea of viewbotting, so why would he not try it. Or it's his mom, that is definitely a possibility. Interesting drama, like seriously, they should make a movie about this.
it will be a good tv show
"The view boter" and the twist will be Forzen Manipulating them to keep him self the top streemer