The software updates are such a problem with Asus' phones. Especially since they've all but publicly confirmed (I've got an email confirming it) that they will not be providing a means for the people that bought their phones to unlock the bootloaders anymore. Asus betrayed a lot of their customers, not just the small phone enthusiasts. For those who are interested or bought an Asus phone themselves hoping to be able to unlock the bootloader: Asus has reportedly already settled with one person in the UK and they got their court fees and the cost of the phone refunded.
The rug pull on not being able to unlock the bootloader is what lost me. Had two Zenfone phones and got screwed on the second. Currently using a Fairphone 5 I hope to have for a long while now.
@@rustylarry7465 I'm well aware of the video, and I don't have any issues. I think a lot of what he brought up was pretty dumb. I find it really odd that things he is on record as saying aren't a big deal (like having the latest CPU or making a phone super thin) are things he then complained about in the video. Which is it? Can't have it both ways.
The key selling point about the Zenfone was it's compact size. Now it's competing with other flagships like Samsung's S24 and it is not even close. Specs like 2 year support compared to Samung's 7 years, camera quality, overall design, etc. I won't be surprised they end up killing the Zenfone lineup
We keep saying that, but the market has spoken. Not even Apple could sell small phones these days. If people actually put their money where their mouth is, Asus would've kept it small.
@@iatwiatw Is anyone selling these in phone bundles, or do you need to be an enthusiast who either lives in the correct countries, or is willing to roll dice on resellers? Because the S24 is the same size and is apparently selling better than the slightly larger S24+, and both the iPhone 15 and 15 Pro are the same size as well. As a Zenfone 9 owner, it looks like I might need to jump back to Samsung in a few years, but it's not like this form factor is unserved.
@@neondemon5137 Not true that nobody wants them. I bought my Galaxy S23 Ultra for the 10x zoom camera. I would have bought a S23 Ultra Mini if it existed. But I was forced between the choice of a smaller phone without the camera I needed, or a large phone that met my needs.
@@player1_fanaticthat's the problem... probably why they made it bigger is because nobody is buying the small phones. businesses make decisions based on statistics
@@Bormen414but not the 9 or the 10. People talk a big game about „uh why phones all big?!?“ but in the end the numbers don’t lie: nobody buys small phones.
Watching this from my Zenfone 8. I love it, but it seems Asus has lost the plot here. The entire draw of the Zenfone line was the compact size, flagship chipset, and none of the extra fluff (paritcularly around the camera) which led to a compelling price.
@@Denariio Exactly! It seems hella lazy tbh. They could've refreshed the Zenfone series but decided "You know what? Last gen was good gen." They're making Apple look like the good guys 😭
It was bound to happen when they made the generic smartphone design for the ROG phone. Nothing wrong with that if this was a bit cheaper. The ROG phone is for a niche audience, now they have something to market for the masses. They'll probably add a non Ultra small Zenfone refresh and have a decent product lineup.
Yeah, and the new ROG also lacks most of the gamer aesthetics, which is very disappointing for me. Like, at first I let it slide because I thought Asus was discontinuing the Zenfone series, in which case it would be understandable to make the surviving series more universally appealing. But it turns out Zenfone is still around and ROG Phones still got nerfed
I hope they realize this decision was a massive mistake and for Zenfone 12 they go back to the smaller size. It’s literally what made Asus’s lineup so special, this new ultra phone is just saturating the market with another gigantic almost 7 inch ultra that nobody wants.
Problem is, no one bought the Zenfone 12. Nor the iPhone minis, hence why they were dropped also. I know there's a small market for both but that's the problem, it's a small market.
Its the opposite if you look at sales and market share. Asus's dramatic decline in market share coincides with the years they sold smaller flagships. It went from about 7% when the zenphones were 6.5inch to a measly 2% today. Far from being the size that "that nobody wants", the larger format is where all the value is for the manufacturers. Despite their loudness on the web, the small phone crowd are in practice a drop in the ocean when it comes to actual consumer demand.
@GHOSTSTARSCREAMM no one is designing their phones for the US alone or making products specific to a single market... At best you see country specific variants of global models to cover particular bands. Specific models may be focused on specific markets (e.g. "Realme" is an Indian market first brand) but at the end of the day, they are all designed to be marketed globally.
Despite the limited software updates and hard to get cases and replacement parts I truly love my Zenfone 9 and hope that Asus releases a smaller non ultra Zenfone 11 later in the year.
Know you're being ironic I also sarcastic but I might be wrong but I believe your phone has security vulnerabilities if it can be rooted because you may be able to strip out the security. I mean I've rooted phones in the past in a small way I'm no expert and I guess I would like the option but on the other hand to know my data is secure is also something I like.
Such a weird phone. They had 2 bangers in a row filled with unique features people loved, and now its just another "flagship". And also the design, its just straight up ugly lmao. At least it still has a headphone jack i guess...
Right but it turns out people loving a phone doesn't mean it sells well where is this is basically just a re-skinned Rog phone so there's very little development needed
@@profosist in my personal circle i know multiple people with a ZenFone 9 or 10, and there's no other android where that's the case. Of course this is just a tiny sample size, but I know 0 people with an rog phone. But yes very true, reskinning a phone is a loooot cheaper
Nice to see someone else appreciate the side fingerprint sensor, the under display ones are slightly annoying at best and eye searing at night. The form factor does defeat the purpose of the phone though and it's great that it has a headphone back but it would be a lot more appealing if it also had a card reader.
Saying the 5500mah battery isn't big is a far stretch. I love ltt and short circuit videos, but considering most ltt employees have either iPhones or flagship/close to flagship Android phones, 5500mah is a lot of battery power. It feels like you complained about it for the sake of complaining or having something to diss. 5500mah isn't small by any comparison.
5500mah isnt a big battery compared to a fair few other phones... However mah isnt the entire picture as you also have voltage to take into consideration WH [watt hour] is what phones needs to be forced to start displaying so it is 100% accurate and the battery life and or efficiency cant be cheesed by cranking the voltage
@@commanderoof4578Dude you have no idea what you're talking about... MAh is the true capacity of the battery. All phone batteries have the same voltage, unless it has 2 batteries in which case it can charge faster with a higher voltage.
@@Grimx0000 incorrect mah is not the true capacity thats wh And no not all phones use the same voltage at all dumb dumb Its like saying a AA battery thats 600mah alkaline is the same capacity as a 600mah lithium one... They aint cus the alkaline one has a nominal voltage of 1.2v the lithium one has a nominal voltage of 1.5v
@@commanderoof4578 You reiterated my point there. I'm from India and I know there are phones with up to 7000mah, and at the end of the day it really comes down to software optimization to make the battery work well. But my point is 90% of Android phones are between 4500 to 5500 mah. Complaining that the phone is 5500 mah is simply nitpicking because you can't find anything else to complain about. And software wise, the zenfones have close to stock Android, so the complaint on battery capacity is really just nitpicking for the sake of it.
@@JimIBobIJones why do you think regular people would buy this over samsung, google pixel, apple, one plus or any other brand's flagship offering? it's an overflown market where the zenfone had that small form factor to make it appealing to some folks
@@JimIBobIJonesbecause being small was the only thing Asus had going for. Why would anyone buy this? No cool features like the rog phone, and Samsung has equal or better specs with their trade in programs being unmatched. What is the reason to buy this one ?
@xXlURMOMlXx they had 7% global share when the zenphone was last 6.5inch +. That went down to 2% when they made it small. How does that mean "going for it". They aren't going to become market leaders ever clearly but big phones sell more than small ones. People would buy the asus because android is android at the end of the day and their prices massively undercut the market leaders for similar flagship specs.
@@JimIBobIJones Sources for that? Screen changing was definitely not the only variable at play. That was 4 years ago and asus still has terrible long term support for their phones, which is a big deal at stopping people I think. Also I haven't seen anyone make an argument why they can't produce small phones at lower quantities. You know, like how many other brands did for years and years. This phone seems like a copy paste job from their rog phones, zero creativity and still only 2 years of OS updates. What a joke.
Battery life is the most important thing to me so this is amazing. I've wanted a Zen phone for a long time now but I am not sure if the phone works with my service
Im hoping enough people go "this is stupid" and asus launch a standard "compact" zenfone 11 before the end of the year. If not im sticking with getting the Xperia 5 V.
Honestly the zenfone 11 ultra looks cheap compared to the zenfone 10 with its weird camera positions and back. Also hate it how they increased the size which basically makes it a regular phone and probally distroy their reputation.
The Zenfone 11 Ultra is awesome in my opinion. The thing is, it's great & all to have compact powerhouses, but if they aren't selling, the manufacturers have no choice but to ditch them & go with the norm, which is big screened phones. The fact of the matter & the sad thing is that most people that say they'd buy it, don't. Talking about how cool it is, doesn't sell them. This happens in the car market all the time.
I don't get why all reviewers so definitively say asus won't put out a small zenfone this year. Have they confirmed it? Why do they call this one "ultra" if there won't be a small phone? Shouldn't they just call it zenfone 11 if that was the case.
Asian here. Small hands, I dont have to shimmy shimmy my phone just to reach the top to swipe down. I just want something as small as the HTC One M8 that I had a few years back
yup the finger print reader on the last version was 1000000 times nicer than the one which can be found under the display....I don't mind the bigger size
I would have accepted a 6" phone if they made the bezel very thin and symmetric but that on screen fingerprint sensor is a huge dealkiller. I have the fear no screen manufacturer is making a small ltpo screen >_>
Honestly I have been using the 11 Ultra for about 1 week now, granted this is like an upgrade for me after a 7-8 year old Sony Xperia smartphone, plus got it on its Launch Offer. Mainly got this becasue to me it's a cheaper ROG Phone without all the cooling fluff and it still has a Headphone Jack which is deal breaker for me, I hate having to carry dongles . Granted I don't mind the lack of support for long (granted OS updates are really lackluster nowadays) had very little issues with it so far, had to reconfigure a few things and I also agree 4k is too much on a phone. I like my big screen on it and games are just amazing to play on it. The CPU on it is great too, main reason I didn't consider a Pixel, and theCamera isn't a bother to me, Im not really a camera snob xD. Its a perfectly fine device thatis powerful yet lasts long and hs a headphone jack which will likely last 7 years even if they are droppomg support for it earlier than others (atleast), heck my Mums Galaxy S8 runs perfectly fine and is still fast despite the support being dropped so I have high hopes for the zenfone 11 ultra.
As great as small phones are, they just don't seem to sell well enough for the big players to design a separate SKU and squeeze the same power in a smaller package.
Right. Now as a 30th version of the generic slab phone, Zenfone is going to address an even smaller niche for people who want something unpopular, yet ordinary.
I have heard they also haven't been allowing bootloader unlock anymore. They recently paid out a settlement to a customer over the broken promise of being able to unlock the bootloader.
I personally don't understand the appeal of a small phone. It isn't great for viewing content like videos, pictures, or gaming, you lose a lot of flagship capabilities because compromises are made for that small size, also don't get a big battery. For a work phone that is only for taking voice and video calls with, and maybe some image documentation, I can see it being fine, specially if it comes with a cheap price tag, but larger phones, like my Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra is amazing to view content on, game on, browse on, basically anything that involves your eyes looking at the screen, and is why large phones are so popular and in demand over smaller ones. My first phone was like a 4.8inch screen or something like that, real small, low resolution screen, terrible for watching content on as I would a lot of time just not bother, then I got my Galaxy S8 which is what, a 5.8inch screen I think? larger, better for viewing stuff but still not perfect, then came my Galaxy S10+ with its 6.4inch screen, which I loved the size of it, and was so much more enjoyable to do anything on it. Now that phone feels small compared to my S23 Ultra's 6.8inch screen, and I even slapped an Otterbox Defender Pro case on it to make it feel even bigger. This phone is easily the best phone I have ever owned, and most expensive even though I bought it used. I still use my S10+ for some stuff like tracking my sleep as one example, and it just doesn't feel like a big phone, because really it isn't anymore, though it was when it first came out, not the largest since the Note 10+ I think had a pretty big screen on it and I regret passing it up as I absolutely love the S Pen on my S23 Ultra, but the S10+ just feels small now, and if something were to happen to my S23 Ultra and forced me to go back to my S10+, I would not enjoy using a smaller phone again. I hope phones stay about this size, maybe a little larger up to 7inch, which I think is probably the largest a phone can get before you could call it a tablet, but also I would probably really enjoy using a 7inch phone. I am also someone who doesn't put their phone in their pocket, I prefer to use the clip that came with my Otterbox Defender Pro, not only showing off my phone as it is always visible on my belt, but also easy to get to and the screen is always protected despite having a screen protector on it and wouldn't need to worry about scratches from the pocket. Basically I think companies should have a small variant of a phone, like the S10e for example was a pretty small flagship phone, but I see where ASUS is going, you get more sales when your phone is the size of what most people expect a phone to be, between 6.4inches and 6.9inch. Anything smaller and it isn't nearly as attractive to most, and likely why Samsung is making the base S25 a larger phone at 6.2 and half I think it was from a leaked document or something like that. where the base S24 is 6.1inch, same with the base S23 and S22 I believe, but their best selling phones being the Ultra and Plus models, 6.5inch and 6.8inch screens, says a lot.
Dude I get it, but let's stop saying small phones can't have good battery life. Zenfone 9 and 10 have great battery life while having smaller batteries than other phones. 2 days on my zenfone. Also you should consider many people have several devices for media consumption. I don't watch movies and have long browsing sessions on my phone, it's just not a good form factor, at any size. For a phone I like a pocketable, reachable small screen. For browsing, movies and games I have a tablet, a laptop, a desktop and a TV. Different sizes for different purposes. I feel sorry for people that do everything on their phone because their experience is just worse (watching shows on a small screen sucks, browsing the web without a mouse is 10 times slower, gaming without a controller is much worse)
@@SlipknotRevan I don't think you have had much experience using a larger phone if you think browsing, gaming, and watching shit isn't a great experience, or just not a good form factor. I own a 10inch tablet, and a 12.3inch Microsoft Surface Pro 7, as well as a high end custom built PC with dual monitor setup, and also have a 17inch gaming laptop. But I also own a Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra, a phone with a 6.8inch display, and there is absolutely no need to feel sorry for anyone who loves to watch content and browse on a phone of this size, because it is a great experience be using a tiny phone that you can hardly see shit on, have a tiny keyboard to constantly fat finger other keys with, and no hope in hell of multitasking with multiple windows/apps open because you just don't have the screen real estate for that. No, I would not rather watch all content and donallnmy gaming on this phone, not saying it is better then viewing on a laptop or desktop, but when I am not sitting at my desk, I very much enjoy watching content and other shit on my big ass phone that I have no problems fitting into my normal size pockets if I wanted to put it into my pocket, which I don't with any phone because it isn't great for an unprotected screen and I also prefer the OtterBox belt clip. Also the last time I charged my S23 Ultra was probably what, 3 days ago? Currently at 28%, enough to last me the rest of the day and likely charge it either overnight wirelessly, slow which is better for the battery, or in the morning use my 45w charger and be full within an hour. Big ass battery in a big ass phone. Also the S23 Ultra is possibly the best for viewing content and gaming and all that shit because the screen doesn't have rounded edges like a while lot of phones have, so you get the literal full screen experience.oh and top of all that, I have a Turtle Beach Atom, a 2 piece controller for my phone that turns it into a hand held console like device, which I either play one of many emulators on my phone with, or stream my desktop tommy phone and play some more demanding games, which doing either is still a really great experience, which I will say again, isn't better then just using a desktop, but I don't always want to use my desktop, or always sit at my desk, or not always at home. There is no way in hell I would enjoy any of that using a tiny ass phone, with its little tiny screen that you can hardly see shit on when viewing content or browsing, it really is only good for taking voice and maybe video calls, voice text, maybe really simplistic 2d games like a bubble shooter which I could still see being problematic on such a small screen tryingnto get accurate shots... What is sad is that you don't seem to use your phone for really anything other then it's base purpose. Even having 2 tablets as the surface pro is a tablet, i still prefer my phone, because it is easily held in 1 or 2 hands, does everything the other 2 tablets can do, and more. I make great use out of my phone, and I forgot to mention I also take notes with my phone, one of the reasons for owning an S23 Ultra, the S Pen, and taking notes on this side screen is pretty great, and the S Pen has other uses I quite enjoy, including with emulator games like Nintendo DS and 3DS. Basically the only person you shouldnfeel sorry for is those who use a tiny phone for more then just taking calls and checking the time. It is no secret larger screens give a better viewing experience, and that is absolutely accurate with phones, as the larger screens just makes doing anything, better. I can't even say smaller phones are cheaper because there are plenty of large phone's that are really good, yet cheaper then some of the smaller phones with similar specs. If you have issue with pocketing a larger phone, then maybe its your pants having tiny ass pockets as again, no issue when I put my S23 Ultra into my jeans pockets once Ina while if I don't have my belt clip on or quickly need to set my phone somewhere to do something. I am not joking when I said there is a reason the most popular phones are large phone's, and the vast majority of people I know and have talked to who still prefer a smaller phone, have never owned a larger phone or used one, and just don't understand much better it is. That being said there are still those who have had larger phones but want one smaller for some reason, but there is few of you out there, and it isn't worth making a phone that won't sell well just for a tiny fraction of people. I will leave you with this. I viewed the recent eclipse through my phone because I didn't get any of those eclipse glasses, and was really happy with my viewing experience and how well my phone was able to capture it, because of its amazing camera that is only found in such aarge device that has all the things you want in a flagship phone and doesn't give any of it up for being small, like a 200mp camera sensor for example. So yeah, let's flip the script, I feel sorry for you if you just want a tiny ass phone that just isn't as good at doing everything my larger S23 Ultra can do, and more since it can and does more, while still fitting into my pocket when not using the clip on occasion as mentioned, has a battery that I find myself charging every 3 or 4 days with moderate usage, it isn't the best for watching content or gaming on, but it is enough I can be quite happy with, and with emulators have a better experience with like DS, 3DS, GBA, PSP, even PS1 and PS2 and other android games that support x-input (Xbox controller drivers) as using that controller gives a really nice experience making the phone feel like a hand held console like a switch or steam deck, but better, and the screen size more then it's performance capabilities is what makes it so good, plus again, streaming games from my desktop to my phone when I don't want to be at my desk, or not home.
@@AngryCanine A lot of assumptions there, my guy. I ain't trying to shame you for liking a big phone. A few points, I have used a large device for months. I know it's decent for media consumption. I play PS2 games on my zenfone with the razer kishi and enjoy it. It's still probably 5 percent of my overall gaming which is done on a TV and I consider it much better. Don't assume other people are struggling watching and playing on a small phone, I'm doing just fine. I watch youtube on my PC because it's a better experience, not because I struggle on the small phone. There's room in the economy for more than 1 size of phone and I'm sick of people trying to convince me how much better big phones are, when I've tried both and know what I like (for myself). Let's agree to disagree and not drag this out too much. Also congrats on watching the eclipse, wish it was visible in europe as well.
It would be nice to know if the phones you're reviewing have locked down boot loaders, some of us would like to use custom firmware once support for these phones ends.
Why are they still insisting screen fingerprint readers????? We get it, its impressive technology, but its just worthless! Put it on the back or side!!
I agree I had a great deal on the Samsung s23 but I have dry skin and the reader just wasn't reliable and I didn't even have a screen protector on which I think is a bit of a must on a premier phone. It's annoying because he was a few hundred quid cheaper than the aces but I chose on the basis that the phone is in my hand so much small irritation can really build up.
The move to the underscreen fingerprint sensor is the most disapointing thing about this device. I miss my pixel 2's back of device scanner more than any other feature and really my samsung's underscreen.
Please have a control phone when it comes to testing the speakers. With everyone listening on separate devices and youtube compression, having something to compare to would be nice
What are they doing with the aesthetics of their phones, man? One's a half-assed gaming phone design-wise, and one's not even a remnant of its past self.
I'm someone who rarely upgrades my phone, but after far too long I'm finally replacing my Galaxy S7. I was looking into Asus's phone especially the RoG since it's one of the few with expandable storage. Unfortunately one of the biggest issues with ASUS phones is their lack of carrier compatibility. It seems like even being based on the RoG the Zen 11 also lost the RoG's micro SD card slot, a hard no from me in any modern phone.
I can never decide what phone I want. I got a free LG Stylo 5 when I joined up on my mom's plan a few years ago. Didn't know anything about phones at the time, and I've had it for 4+ years now. Phone's definitely getting old and slow. Any suggestions, folks? Not a big picture taker. Just want current-ish bluetooth, bright screen (amoled or whatever else is close), lots of memory (expandable if possible), good resolution, a fast cpu, and not a money sink.
Lol the problems he mentioned being the bigger screen size is actually a good thing for me and the camera changes don't bother me because I rarely use the camera anyway. So it's all good for me 👍
i really interested in knowing why phone battery always advertised in mha not the correct watthour which correctly tell you the capacity to compare to other batteries regardless of cell voltage or chemistry. while mha depends on cell voltage. imagine in the future when new lithium battery chemistry comes to market with different nominal voltage. you always have to reminde people this 3000 mha is bigger than that 3000mha
I love the idea of a sub 6.0 screen phone but sadly probably wont' get and is why I went with a Flip5. Not to mention trade in values most competitors offers, you need to rely on carrier deals to pull users away from the iPhone/Samsung/Pixel market
I always liked the Asus phones, but the fact they don't give more than 2 years of software support, its a no go for me. I had a Zenfone, then changed for a pixel just for the software support.
4:27 Why would you even bother mentioning having a 4K display on a phone?? Those don't exist anymore. Not a single Xperia One phone has a 4K resolution display AT ALL. The last phones with ACTUAL 4K displays are the Xperia XZ Premium and Xperia XZ2 Premium.
When it comes to phones and camera bumps, and protection in general, I don't understand people. You've spent $1,000 or more on a phone, yet you hesitate to use a $2 protective case. Honestly, you should be spending at least 10% of the phone's value to protect it, and you should definitely ensure your case is smooth on the back so that your camera sensor is flush or even deeper than the case. Personally, I have a custom case made out of two cases: a standard hard shell body glued to a soft shell wallet that covers the screen. Additionally, I use a screen protector, a magnetic USB-C adapter wrist handle, and if you count external protection, I wear a watch and use a Bluetooth headset so I don't have to pull out the phone every 5 minutes. Seriously, allocate at least 10% of your phone's value for protective items-$100 minimum. Here's a breakdown of the protective items I use, which come to around $100 or more, ensuring my phone still looks brand spanking new: 1. Hard shell bumper 2. Glass screen protector 3. Magnetic charger for the USB port 4. Wrist strap 5. Camera port glass protector 6. Optional modified wallet cover to provide extra screen protection when in a pocket 7. Bonus option: grip backing skin to prevent it from sliding out of your hands 8. Bonus optional external devices that reduce the need for constant phone use, such as a watch and Bluetooth headset When it comes to multimedia, especially on public transit, I don't even use my good phone. Instead, I have a separate MP4 Android media player. Go ahead, take it, smash it, steal it-it's only $100, and it can remotely send messages back and forth from my good phone to it.
The key selling feature of the ZenFone was its price. At least back in the days of the ZenFone 4. Unfortunately, things have changed, and the Galexy A series has put Asus to shame. When I can get 2 flagship phones and make a car payment for the same price, you know Asus has lost the plot.
Unfortunately as Marques has mentioned, only a small crowd of people are actually buying small phones. Majority of consumers prefer phones with large screens for viewing, so I can understand why Asus would want to start making bigger phones. The Zenfone line up would probably die faster if Asus didn't swap, and I say this as an owner of a Zenfone 10.
As someone who plays genshin all the time on my phone, the Zenfone 10, despite the flagship snapdragon 8 gen 2, overheats like crazy and drops frames after a good 15 min of gaming. Depending on which version of the phone I was on, it either clocked down to 50fps once it reaches 40°C and to 40fps when over 45°C, or like what it does now, clocking down at randomly intervals, leading to moments where I could be getting 60fps, then the phone shits itself to 35fps and huge lag spike. For the rog phone 6, iirc it drops to 50fps at like 45°C and 40fps or lower at 50°C, but it performed much better despite being a snapdragon 8+ gen 1. Even though they can run hotter than Samsung or pixel phones, I'm surprised how crappily they perform compared to xiaomi's flagship and Nubia red magic. Disappointing performance, but if I'm some Normy person who just wants a decent phone, it's great, besides the camera which is even more inconsistent compared even to older OnePlus phones 😔 wtf Asus, your past phone had just one outstanding feature, and you removed it, now all your phone are basic and not even value for money
The software updates are such a problem with Asus' phones. Especially since they've all but publicly confirmed (I've got an email confirming it) that they will not be providing a means for the people that bought their phones to unlock the bootloaders anymore. Asus betrayed a lot of their customers, not just the small phone enthusiasts.
For those who are interested or bought an Asus phone themselves hoping to be able to unlock the bootloader: Asus has reportedly already settled with one person in the UK and they got their court fees and the cost of the phone refunded.
The updates are the exact reason why I didn't get his own phone 9 it would have been my perfect phone otherwise
The rug pull on not being able to unlock the bootloader is what lost me. Had two Zenfone phones and got screwed on the second. Currently using a Fairphone 5 I hope to have for a long while now.
@@TonyOstrichi hope you arent having issues with the fairphone linus has made a video about the fairphone 5 and its issues
@@rustylarry7465 I'm well aware of the video, and I don't have any issues. I think a lot of what he brought up was pretty dumb. I find it really odd that things he is on record as saying aren't a big deal (like having the latest CPU or making a phone super thin) are things he then complained about in the video. Which is it? Can't have it both ways.
@@TonyOstrich Hes a hypocrite. Shouldn't surprise anyone at this point. He proves it again every few months.
The key selling point about the Zenfone was it's compact size. Now it's competing with other flagships like Samsung's S24 and it is not even close. Specs like 2 year support compared to Samung's 7 years, camera quality, overall design, etc. I won't be surprised they end up killing the Zenfone lineup
Only big Zenphone! 😁
samsung's 7 year support is yet to be proven. it's just a pinky promise. typically its 4 years max
We keep saying that, but the market has spoken. Not even Apple could sell small phones these days. If people actually put their money where their mouth is, Asus would've kept it small.
@@iatwiatw Is anyone selling these in phone bundles, or do you need to be an enthusiast who either lives in the correct countries, or is willing to roll dice on resellers? Because the S24 is the same size and is apparently selling better than the slightly larger S24+, and both the iPhone 15 and 15 Pro are the same size as well. As a Zenfone 9 owner, it looks like I might need to jump back to Samsung in a few years, but it's not like this form factor is unserved.
@@adrianvorkaaa3534 they said they will support their devices for 7 years.. that will happen 100% because if it didnt they WILL get sued
Tldr: the zenfone just lost it's entire purpose.
@@neondemon5137 Not true that nobody wants them. I bought my Galaxy S23 Ultra for the 10x zoom camera. I would have bought a S23 Ultra Mini if it existed. But I was forced between the choice of a smaller phone without the camera I needed, or a large phone that met my needs.
@@neondemon5137 I bought the S23 basic SPECIFICALLY because it was small. I moved from a Pixel 7 to it.
I hate large phones.
@@Sassquatch0 Now there's two of you! _Wow._
I'm not gonna be surprised if they later announce if they will shut down their mobile division.
Small phone gang!
Great, my streak goes on, every time I choose a phone, the manufacturer then changes design philosophy, first Sony, then OnePlus, now Asus...
OnePlus is back brother
Maybe, but when I bought my Zenfone they just weren't.
@@jedimastu as a rebranded oppo?
@@taoying3987 As a rebranded of any BBK Group phones. Such as OPPO, Vivo, Realme, iQOO, OnePlus, etc. so they could save production costs.
Buy a Samsung or Apple so they might change their design philosophy. 😂
Such a disappointment, after ultra portable Zenfone 8, 9 and 10.
did you buy 8, 9 and 10?
@@adrianvorkaaa3534 Bought 8, plan to buy 10, if there is no non-ultra 11 or 12.
@@player1_fanaticthat's the problem... probably why they made it bigger is because nobody is buying the small phones. businesses make decisions based on statistics
@@adrianvorkaaa3534 he just said that he got the 8
@@Bormen414but not the 9 or the 10.
People talk a big game about „uh why phones all big?!?“ but in the end the numbers don’t lie: nobody buys small phones.
I loved the Zenfone 9/10 camera bump
THEY DID THE SCREEN FINGERPRINT READER. SCREW THAT.
It really does seem like an obvious decision
that bump makes using it with a case so obnoxious
@ZaHandle nah, my S10's camera system is basically flush against the back and barely feels like it's there
Watching this from my Zenfone 8. I love it, but it seems Asus has lost the plot here. The entire draw of the Zenfone line was the compact size, flagship chipset, and none of the extra fluff (paritcularly around the camera) which led to a compelling price.
yup fm radio but won't open if i have too much tabs open
... so it's a ROG phone with no gamer aesthetics?
why
They essentially released the same phone twice…
@@Denariio Exactly! It seems hella lazy tbh.
They could've refreshed the Zenfone series but decided "You know what? Last gen was good gen." They're making Apple look like the good guys 😭
@@DenariioI to jest genialne, cywilny ROG. Już go mam w wersji 16/512 i sprawuje się genialnie.
It was bound to happen when they made the generic smartphone design for the ROG phone. Nothing wrong with that if this was a bit cheaper. The ROG phone is for a niche audience, now they have something to market for the masses. They'll probably add a non Ultra small Zenfone refresh and have a decent product lineup.
Yeah, and the new ROG also lacks most of the gamer aesthetics, which is very disappointing for me. Like, at first I let it slide because I thought Asus was discontinuing the Zenfone series, in which case it would be understandable to make the surviving series more universally appealing. But it turns out Zenfone is still around and ROG Phones still got nerfed
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They completely stripped it of all character. Now its only defining characteristics are its non-unlockable bootloader and only two years of updates
I hope they realize this decision was a massive mistake and for Zenfone 12 they go back to the smaller size.
It’s literally what made Asus’s lineup so special, this new ultra phone is just saturating the market with another gigantic almost 7 inch ultra that nobody wants.
I want this phone and I have it 16/512 Black. 😁 I'm really like big Zen bicouse 9 and 10 was to small.
Problem is, no one bought the Zenfone 12. Nor the iPhone minis, hence why they were dropped also. I know there's a small market for both but that's the problem, it's a small market.
Its the opposite if you look at sales and market share. Asus's dramatic decline in market share coincides with the years they sold smaller flagships. It went from about 7% when the zenphones were 6.5inch to a measly 2% today.
Far from being the size that "that nobody wants", the larger format is where all the value is for the manufacturers.
Despite their loudness on the web, the small phone crowd are in practice a drop in the ocean when it comes to actual consumer demand.
@GHOSTSTARSCREAMM no one is designing their phones for the US alone or making products specific to a single market... At best you see country specific variants of global models to cover particular bands.
Specific models may be focused on specific markets (e.g. "Realme" is an Indian market first brand) but at the end of the day, they are all designed to be marketed globally.
@GHOSTSTARSCREAMM You are the one mentioning the NA market out of nowhere... Not sure how that was relevant either but responding to you pal.
Having the fingerprint reader on the side is so much better than under the screen. I hope that comes back in more phones.
22 seconds in and I’m disappointed in Asus
It took you 22 seconds!? I went in jaded
Despite the limited software updates and hard to get cases and replacement parts I truly love my Zenfone 9 and hope that Asus releases a smaller non ultra Zenfone 11 later in the year.
Love Z10. The size and design, top notch. Hoped to see the line continued. What a disappointment to see such brick with such generic design.
Are we rebranding phones now? The zen looked so good with these two cameras
I had just found about Zenfones and was excited to get an updated 11 till...
I have a Zenfone 10 too. Very happy with it. Disappointing to see that they are moving away from the smaller form factor.
Love a good locked bootloader
just unlock it
means so much less than you think. maybe 2% of users even know what that means, and even less of them care to do anything with it
Know you're being ironic I also sarcastic but I might be wrong but I believe your phone has security vulnerabilities if it can be rooted because you may be able to strip out the security. I mean I've rooted phones in the past in a small way I'm no expert and I guess I would like the option but on the other hand to know my data is secure is also something I like.
Such a weird phone. They had 2 bangers in a row filled with unique features people loved, and now its just another "flagship". And also the design, its just straight up ugly lmao. At least it still has a headphone jack i guess...
Right but it turns out people loving a phone doesn't mean it sells well where is this is basically just a re-skinned Rog phone so there's very little development needed
@@profosist in my personal circle i know multiple people with a ZenFone 9 or 10, and there's no other android where that's the case. Of course this is just a tiny sample size, but I know 0 people with an rog phone. But yes very true, reskinning a phone is a loooot cheaper
@@robjobse5162 you can use the iPhone Mini as an example rave reviews but it just didn't sell
Seems like I'm gonna have to keep my Zenfone 9 for as long as I can, at least until something else kinda small shows up...
Nice to see someone else appreciate the side fingerprint sensor, the under display ones are slightly annoying at best and eye searing at night. The form factor does defeat the purpose of the phone though and it's great that it has a headphone back but it would be a lot more appealing if it also had a card reader.
Saying the 5500mah battery isn't big is a far stretch.
I love ltt and short circuit videos, but considering most ltt employees have either iPhones or flagship/close to flagship Android phones, 5500mah is a lot of battery power.
It feels like you complained about it for the sake of complaining or having something to diss. 5500mah isn't small by any comparison.
5500mah isnt a big battery compared to a fair few other phones...
However mah isnt the entire picture as you also have voltage to take into consideration
WH [watt hour] is what phones needs to be forced to start displaying so it is 100% accurate and the battery life and or efficiency cant be cheesed by cranking the voltage
@@commanderoof4578Dude you have no idea what you're talking about... MAh is the true capacity of the battery. All phone batteries have the same voltage, unless it has 2 batteries in which case it can charge faster with a higher voltage.
@@Grimx0000 incorrect mah is not the true capacity thats wh
And no not all phones use the same voltage at all dumb dumb
Its like saying a AA battery thats 600mah alkaline is the same capacity as a 600mah lithium one...
They aint cus the alkaline one has a nominal voltage of 1.2v the lithium one has a nominal voltage of 1.5v
@@commanderoof4578 You reiterated my point there. I'm from India and I know there are phones with up to 7000mah, and at the end of the day it really comes down to software optimization to make the battery work well. But my point is 90% of Android phones are between 4500 to 5500 mah.
Complaining that the phone is 5500 mah is simply nitpicking because you can't find anything else to complain about.
And software wise, the zenfones have close to stock Android, so the complaint on battery capacity is really just nitpicking for the sake of it.
@@arvindrueben im not nitpicking im saying it cannot be considered big its just a regular sized battery
galaxy number is the same as the year we're in, easy to remember :)
The people at asus phone department is out of touch with the world
Almost no-one buys smalls phones... How is it "in touch" to supply non-existent demand?
@@JimIBobIJones why do you think regular people would buy this over samsung, google pixel, apple, one plus or any other brand's flagship offering?
it's an overflown market where the zenfone had that small form factor to make it appealing to some folks
@@JimIBobIJonesbecause being small was the only thing Asus had going for. Why would anyone buy this? No cool features like the rog phone, and Samsung has equal or better specs with their trade in programs being unmatched. What is the reason to buy this one ?
@xXlURMOMlXx they had 7% global share when the zenphone was last 6.5inch +. That went down to 2% when they made it small. How does that mean "going for it". They aren't going to become market leaders ever clearly but big phones sell more than small ones.
People would buy the asus because android is android at the end of the day and their prices massively undercut the market leaders for similar flagship specs.
@@JimIBobIJones Sources for that? Screen changing was definitely not the only variable at play. That was 4 years ago and asus still has terrible long term support for their phones, which is a big deal at stopping people I think. Also I haven't seen anyone make an argument why they can't produce small phones at lower quantities. You know, like how many other brands did for years and years. This phone seems like a copy paste job from their rog phones, zero creativity and still only 2 years of OS updates. What a joke.
Currently rocking a Pixel 8 Pro. It's a very nice phone.
I miss the absolute hell out of my Pixel 5. 90hz was plenty, and the size was excellent.
The P5 will always be a legendary device in my book. Was perfect
Battery life is the most important thing to me so this is amazing. I've wanted a Zen phone for a long time now but I am not sure if the phone works with my service
I mean it's called "Ultra", maybe they still have plans to make a non-Ultra variant for the small size?
Lots of people say they love small phones, but not that many people buy them. The same thing happens time and time again.
Zenfone 11 is basically ROG Phone Reskin
I looove the big size. Small phones are great until you become accustomed to a big phone then there's no going back.
Im hoping enough people go "this is stupid" and asus launch a standard "compact" zenfone 11 before the end of the year. If not im sticking with getting the Xperia 5 V.
Xperia 5 ii to iv display has been known to suffer green/pink line issue after 6+ month of use, getting Xperia 5 V would be a risky choice i guess?
Begging for just the same design as the 10 again, the red 😍 I just want that one with uniform thin bezels. Please 😭
Honestly the zenfone 11 ultra looks cheap compared to the zenfone 10 with its weird camera positions and back. Also hate it how they increased the size which basically makes it a regular phone and probally distroy their reputation.
ASUS really needs to keep the small form factor going. The ZenFone 10 is perfect. There's no need to mess this up, ASUS.
First they removed everything people liked about the ROG phones for the ROG phone 8, now this. Did they want to keep any customers?
If you see this, you don't swap the just the lens out, it's the entire back cover
Keep on rocking the weightloss and hairstyle! cant wait for the final result
The Zenfone 11 Ultra is awesome in my opinion. The thing is, it's great & all to have compact powerhouses, but if they aren't selling, the manufacturers have no choice but to ditch them & go with the norm, which is big screened phones. The fact of the matter & the sad thing is that most people that say they'd buy it, don't. Talking about how cool it is, doesn't sell them. This happens in the car market all the time.
I don't get why all reviewers so definitively say asus won't put out a small zenfone this year. Have they confirmed it? Why do they call this one "ultra" if there won't be a small phone? Shouldn't they just call it zenfone 11 if that was the case.
I will never understand why a grown man would want a baby phone. To be fair though I have large hands and some do not so I guess that may be why.
Asian here. Small hands, I dont have to shimmy shimmy my phone just to reach the top to swipe down. I just want something as small as the HTC One M8 that I had a few years back
yup the finger print reader on the last version was 1000000 times nicer than the one which can be found under the display....I don't mind the bigger size
I would have accepted a 6" phone if they made the bezel very thin and symmetric but that on screen fingerprint sensor is a huge dealkiller. I have the fear no screen manufacturer is making a small ltpo screen >_>
Now it's just one of the many 6,7 inch phones, but doesn't have nothing over it's competition.
Feels like the reviewer didnt even used the device before taking the video
Do people like these under screen fingerprint sensors? I hate them, I don't understand why companies keep switching.
No one ever speak of call quality. The microphone in the Zenfone 8 is horrendous, yet there was no way to know except buying and finding out
The 11 Ultra will flop. The small form factor was the differentiator that made it desirable
did you buy their "small" phones?
@@adrianvorkaaa3534 I'm typing with it now. Now I have to look for another brand.
Not many people bought the compact phones.
Honestly I have been using the 11 Ultra for about 1 week now, granted this is like an upgrade for me after a 7-8 year old Sony Xperia smartphone, plus got it on its Launch Offer. Mainly got this becasue to me it's a cheaper ROG Phone without all the cooling fluff and it still has a Headphone Jack which is deal breaker for me, I hate having to carry dongles . Granted I don't mind the lack of support for long (granted OS updates are really lackluster nowadays) had very little issues with it so far, had to reconfigure a few things and I also agree 4k is too much on a phone. I like my big screen on it and games are just amazing to play on it. The CPU on it is great too, main reason I didn't consider a Pixel, and theCamera isn't a bother to me, Im not really a camera snob xD. Its a perfectly fine device thatis powerful yet lasts long and hs a headphone jack which will likely last 7 years even if they are droppomg support for it earlier than others (atleast), heck my Mums Galaxy S8 runs perfectly fine and is still fast despite the support being dropped so I have high hopes for the zenfone 11 ultra.
Też mam od kilku dni, działa rewelacyjnie. Podobają mi się wersje czarna i szara. Kupiłem czarny i jestem zachwycony wyglądem i jakością wykonania.
As great as small phones are, they just don't seem to sell well enough for the big players to design a separate SKU and squeeze the same power in a smaller package.
Right. Now as a 30th version of the generic slab phone, Zenfone is going to address an even smaller niche for people who want something unpopular, yet ordinary.
@@Tarets Exactly, now the Zenfone looks exactly like the ROG phone! Yay, a different SKU for the same thing!
gonna miss the zenfone, keeping the 10 as long as it can run.
We need bootloader unlocked ASAP, Asus.
My hope is that the "ultra" for this one leaves room for a non-ultra "mini".
Sad to see the Unlockable bootloader go but it's good that it has a headphone Jack, just wish the small screen size had not been dropped
Advertising that they use recycled aluminium is a joke. 76% in use today is recycled.
"You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
RIP small phones and...
Asus has become the villain💀
Watching on my ZenFone 10 rn 😢
I have heard they also haven't been allowing bootloader unlock anymore. They recently paid out a settlement to a customer over the broken promise of being able to unlock the bootloader.
So… they traded being the best small phone in the world, for being just another shitty android phone? Fun.
Still happily rocking the Zenfone 8 Flip!
I personally don't understand the appeal of a small phone. It isn't great for viewing content like videos, pictures, or gaming, you lose a lot of flagship capabilities because compromises are made for that small size, also don't get a big battery. For a work phone that is only for taking voice and video calls with, and maybe some image documentation, I can see it being fine, specially if it comes with a cheap price tag, but larger phones, like my Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra is amazing to view content on, game on, browse on, basically anything that involves your eyes looking at the screen, and is why large phones are so popular and in demand over smaller ones. My first phone was like a 4.8inch screen or something like that, real small, low resolution screen, terrible for watching content on as I would a lot of time just not bother, then I got my Galaxy S8 which is what, a 5.8inch screen I think? larger, better for viewing stuff but still not perfect, then came my Galaxy S10+ with its 6.4inch screen, which I loved the size of it, and was so much more enjoyable to do anything on it. Now that phone feels small compared to my S23 Ultra's 6.8inch screen, and I even slapped an Otterbox Defender Pro case on it to make it feel even bigger. This phone is easily the best phone I have ever owned, and most expensive even though I bought it used. I still use my S10+ for some stuff like tracking my sleep as one example, and it just doesn't feel like a big phone, because really it isn't anymore, though it was when it first came out, not the largest since the Note 10+ I think had a pretty big screen on it and I regret passing it up as I absolutely love the S Pen on my S23 Ultra, but the S10+ just feels small now, and if something were to happen to my S23 Ultra and forced me to go back to my S10+, I would not enjoy using a smaller phone again. I hope phones stay about this size, maybe a little larger up to 7inch, which I think is probably the largest a phone can get before you could call it a tablet, but also I would probably really enjoy using a 7inch phone. I am also someone who doesn't put their phone in their pocket, I prefer to use the clip that came with my Otterbox Defender Pro, not only showing off my phone as it is always visible on my belt, but also easy to get to and the screen is always protected despite having a screen protector on it and wouldn't need to worry about scratches from the pocket.
Basically I think companies should have a small variant of a phone, like the S10e for example was a pretty small flagship phone, but I see where ASUS is going, you get more sales when your phone is the size of what most people expect a phone to be, between 6.4inches and 6.9inch. Anything smaller and it isn't nearly as attractive to most, and likely why Samsung is making the base S25 a larger phone at 6.2 and half I think it was from a leaked document or something like that. where the base S24 is 6.1inch, same with the base S23 and S22 I believe, but their best selling phones being the Ultra and Plus models, 6.5inch and 6.8inch screens, says a lot.
Dude I get it, but let's stop saying small phones can't have good battery life. Zenfone 9 and 10 have great battery life while having smaller batteries than other phones. 2 days on my zenfone. Also you should consider many people have several devices for media consumption. I don't watch movies and have long browsing sessions on my phone, it's just not a good form factor, at any size. For a phone I like a pocketable, reachable small screen. For browsing, movies and games I have a tablet, a laptop, a desktop and a TV. Different sizes for different purposes. I feel sorry for people that do everything on their phone because their experience is just worse (watching shows on a small screen sucks, browsing the web without a mouse is 10 times slower, gaming without a controller is much worse)
@@SlipknotRevan I don't think you have had much experience using a larger phone if you think browsing, gaming, and watching shit isn't a great experience, or just not a good form factor. I own a 10inch tablet, and a 12.3inch Microsoft Surface Pro 7, as well as a high end custom built PC with dual monitor setup, and also have a 17inch gaming laptop. But I also own a Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra, a phone with a 6.8inch display, and there is absolutely no need to feel sorry for anyone who loves to watch content and browse on a phone of this size, because it is a great experience be using a tiny phone that you can hardly see shit on, have a tiny keyboard to constantly fat finger other keys with, and no hope in hell of multitasking with multiple windows/apps open because you just don't have the screen real estate for that. No, I would not rather watch all content and donallnmy gaming on this phone, not saying it is better then viewing on a laptop or desktop, but when I am not sitting at my desk, I very much enjoy watching content and other shit on my big ass phone that I have no problems fitting into my normal size pockets if I wanted to put it into my pocket, which I don't with any phone because it isn't great for an unprotected screen and I also prefer the OtterBox belt clip.
Also the last time I charged my S23 Ultra was probably what, 3 days ago? Currently at 28%, enough to last me the rest of the day and likely charge it either overnight wirelessly, slow which is better for the battery, or in the morning use my 45w charger and be full within an hour. Big ass battery in a big ass phone. Also the S23 Ultra is possibly the best for viewing content and gaming and all that shit because the screen doesn't have rounded edges like a while lot of phones have, so you get the literal full screen experience.oh and top of all that, I have a Turtle Beach Atom, a 2 piece controller for my phone that turns it into a hand held console like device, which I either play one of many emulators on my phone with, or stream my desktop tommy phone and play some more demanding games, which doing either is still a really great experience, which I will say again, isn't better then just using a desktop, but I don't always want to use my desktop, or always sit at my desk, or not always at home. There is no way in hell I would enjoy any of that using a tiny ass phone, with its little tiny screen that you can hardly see shit on when viewing content or browsing, it really is only good for taking voice and maybe video calls, voice text, maybe really simplistic 2d games like a bubble shooter which I could still see being problematic on such a small screen tryingnto get accurate shots...
What is sad is that you don't seem to use your phone for really anything other then it's base purpose. Even having 2 tablets as the surface pro is a tablet, i still prefer my phone, because it is easily held in 1 or 2 hands, does everything the other 2 tablets can do, and more. I make great use out of my phone, and I forgot to mention I also take notes with my phone, one of the reasons for owning an S23 Ultra, the S Pen, and taking notes on this side screen is pretty great, and the S Pen has other uses I quite enjoy, including with emulator games like Nintendo DS and 3DS.
Basically the only person you shouldnfeel sorry for is those who use a tiny phone for more then just taking calls and checking the time. It is no secret larger screens give a better viewing experience, and that is absolutely accurate with phones, as the larger screens just makes doing anything, better. I can't even say smaller phones are cheaper because there are plenty of large phone's that are really good, yet cheaper then some of the smaller phones with similar specs. If you have issue with pocketing a larger phone, then maybe its your pants having tiny ass pockets as again, no issue when I put my S23 Ultra into my jeans pockets once Ina while if I don't have my belt clip on or quickly need to set my phone somewhere to do something. I am not joking when I said there is a reason the most popular phones are large phone's, and the vast majority of people I know and have talked to who still prefer a smaller phone, have never owned a larger phone or used one, and just don't understand much better it is. That being said there are still those who have had larger phones but want one smaller for some reason, but there is few of you out there, and it isn't worth making a phone that won't sell well just for a tiny fraction of people.
I will leave you with this. I viewed the recent eclipse through my phone because I didn't get any of those eclipse glasses, and was really happy with my viewing experience and how well my phone was able to capture it, because of its amazing camera that is only found in such aarge device that has all the things you want in a flagship phone and doesn't give any of it up for being small, like a 200mp camera sensor for example. So yeah, let's flip the script, I feel sorry for you if you just want a tiny ass phone that just isn't as good at doing everything my larger S23 Ultra can do, and more since it can and does more, while still fitting into my pocket when not using the clip on occasion as mentioned, has a battery that I find myself charging every 3 or 4 days with moderate usage, it isn't the best for watching content or gaming on, but it is enough I can be quite happy with, and with emulators have a better experience with like DS, 3DS, GBA, PSP, even PS1 and PS2 and other android games that support x-input (Xbox controller drivers) as using that controller gives a really nice experience making the phone feel like a hand held console like a switch or steam deck, but better, and the screen size more then it's performance capabilities is what makes it so good, plus again, streaming games from my desktop to my phone when I don't want to be at my desk, or not home.
@@AngryCanine A lot of assumptions there, my guy. I ain't trying to shame you for liking a big phone. A few points, I have used a large device for months. I know it's decent for media consumption. I play PS2 games on my zenfone with the razer kishi and enjoy it. It's still probably 5 percent of my overall gaming which is done on a TV and I consider it much better. Don't assume other people are struggling watching and playing on a small phone, I'm doing just fine. I watch youtube on my PC because it's a better experience, not because I struggle on the small phone. There's room in the economy for more than 1 size of phone and I'm sick of people trying to convince me how much better big phones are, when I've tried both and know what I like (for myself). Let's agree to disagree and not drag this out too much. Also congrats on watching the eclipse, wish it was visible in europe as well.
why would they even cal it a zenphone ffs
It would be nice to know if the phones you're reviewing have locked down boot loaders, some of us would like to use custom firmware once support for these phones ends.
Maybe because the sell says otherwise...that's why they stop making small phone😮💨
either way i doubt, there will be much different with any change...
GCAM does help a lot of phones which have the camera hardware but lack the software processing needed to take advantage of the same.
Why are they still insisting screen fingerprint readers????? We get it, its impressive technology, but its just worthless! Put it on the back or side!!
I agree I had a great deal on the Samsung s23 but I have dry skin and the reader just wasn't reliable and I didn't even have a screen protector on which I think is a bit of a must on a premier phone. It's annoying because he was a few hundred quid cheaper than the aces but I chose on the basis that the phone is in my hand so much small irritation can really build up.
i got the zenfone 9 (same size as the 10) and i really love it, hate to see that asus doesnt keep the format
I hate the fact that everyone said the Zenfone
Same here. First Nexus, then pixel, now apple 13 mini, and the asus zenfone 10 was on the planning
8:28 you just made me question my existence
The small form factor was the only reason to buy a zenfone. I was recommending this to friends who wanted smaller phones.
The move to the underscreen fingerprint sensor is the most disapointing thing about this device. I miss my pixel 2's back of device scanner more than any other feature and really my samsung's underscreen.
Basically an rog 8 pro without the side triggers and type c connector with a lower refresh rate screen.. great for the 200 usd reduction tbh
Everyone sad the Zenfone isn't small anymore, but nobody bought the small zenfone
Exactly, even apple couldn't sell compact phones. its too niche
@@jam6875 If the sad people showed up and bought it, there still would be one
Please have a control phone when it comes to testing the speakers. With everyone listening on separate devices and youtube compression, having something to compare to would be nice
What are they doing with the aesthetics of their phones, man? One's a half-assed gaming phone design-wise, and one's not even a remnant of its past self.
I'm someone who rarely upgrades my phone, but after far too long I'm finally replacing my Galaxy S7. I was looking into Asus's phone especially the RoG since it's one of the few with expandable storage. Unfortunately one of the biggest issues with ASUS phones is their lack of carrier compatibility.
It seems like even being based on the RoG the Zen 11 also lost the RoG's micro SD card slot, a hard no from me in any modern phone.
lack of symmetric bezels is just stupid especially on a big phone.
wide Linus will *never* get old.
I bought every previous zenfone but I'm skipping this one, what the hell happened to the small form factor that zenfone was famous for.
I can never decide what phone I want. I got a free LG Stylo 5 when I joined up on my mom's plan a few years ago. Didn't know anything about phones at the time, and I've had it for 4+ years now. Phone's definitely getting old and slow. Any suggestions, folks? Not a big picture taker. Just want current-ish bluetooth, bright screen (amoled or whatever else is close), lots of memory (expandable if possible), good resolution, a fast cpu, and not a money sink.
A battery test compared to the previous model would be way more useful then the rog phone .
Not going to lie I went from a big phone to small phone last year and it felt "right."
RIP Zenfone, I only daily drive Zenfone 10 because its a kind of compact flagship, looks like its gonna be my last Asus
Lol the problems he mentioned being the bigger screen size is actually a good thing for me and the camera changes don't bother me because I rarely use the camera anyway. So it's all good for me 👍
i really interested in knowing why phone battery always advertised in mha not the correct watthour which correctly tell you the capacity to compare to other batteries regardless of cell voltage or chemistry. while mha depends on cell voltage. imagine in the future when new lithium battery chemistry comes to market with different nominal voltage. you always have to reminde people this 3000 mha is bigger than that 3000mha
I love the idea of a sub 6.0 screen phone but sadly probably wont' get and is why I went with a Flip5. Not to mention trade in values most competitors offers, you need to rely on carrier deals to pull users away from the iPhone/Samsung/Pixel market
I always liked the Asus phones, but the fact they don't give more than 2 years of software support, its a no go for me. I had a Zenfone, then changed for a pixel just for the software support.
4:27 Why would you even bother mentioning having a 4K display on a phone??
Those don't exist anymore.
Not a single Xperia One phone has a 4K resolution display AT ALL.
The last phones with ACTUAL 4K displays are the Xperia XZ Premium and Xperia XZ2 Premium.
The bezels are way too big, on the Zendphone 10. Only two years of software updates are a deal breaker.
They finally went back to a big phone the ZenFone 9 was so disappointingly small that it was a deal breaker for me
Asus has never had the greatest cameras. But the overall phone sounds like a beast.
When it comes to phones and camera bumps, and protection in general, I don't understand people. You've spent $1,000 or more on a phone, yet you hesitate to use a $2 protective case. Honestly, you should be spending at least 10% of the phone's value to protect it, and you should definitely ensure your case is smooth on the back so that your camera sensor is flush or even deeper than the case.
Personally, I have a custom case made out of two cases: a standard hard shell body glued to a soft shell wallet that covers the screen. Additionally, I use a screen protector, a magnetic USB-C adapter wrist handle, and if you count external protection, I wear a watch and use a Bluetooth headset so I don't have to pull out the phone every 5 minutes.
Seriously, allocate at least 10% of your phone's value for protective items-$100 minimum.
Here's a breakdown of the protective items I use, which come to around $100 or more, ensuring my phone still looks brand spanking new:
1. Hard shell bumper
2. Glass screen protector
3. Magnetic charger for the USB port
4. Wrist strap
5. Camera port glass protector
6. Optional modified wallet cover to provide extra screen protection when in a pocket
7. Bonus option: grip backing skin to prevent it from sliding out of your hands
8. Bonus optional external devices that reduce the need for constant phone use, such as a watch and Bluetooth headset
When it comes to multimedia, especially on public transit, I don't even use my good phone. Instead, I have a separate MP4 Android media player. Go ahead, take it, smash it, steal it-it's only $100, and it can remotely send messages back and forth from my good phone to it.
who in thier right mind post a video just before a solar eclipse? you guys need to give your head a good shake
The key selling feature of the ZenFone was its price. At least back in the days of the ZenFone 4. Unfortunately, things have changed, and the Galexy A series has put Asus to shame. When I can get 2 flagship phones and make a car payment for the same price, you know Asus has lost the plot.
man i was always kinda sad that i wasn't able to get a zenphone, it was exactly all i wanted in a phone.... NOT ANYMORE!
Unfortunately as Marques has mentioned, only a small crowd of people are actually buying small phones. Majority of consumers prefer phones with large screens for viewing, so I can understand why Asus would want to start making bigger phones. The Zenfone line up would probably die faster if Asus didn't swap, and I say this as an owner of a Zenfone 10.
Start with the PRICE !!! I will always just jump to the end of the video until you start with the price
As someone who plays genshin all the time on my phone, the Zenfone 10, despite the flagship snapdragon 8 gen 2, overheats like crazy and drops frames after a good 15 min of gaming. Depending on which version of the phone I was on, it either clocked down to 50fps once it reaches 40°C and to 40fps when over 45°C, or like what it does now, clocking down at randomly intervals, leading to moments where I could be getting 60fps, then the phone shits itself to 35fps and huge lag spike. For the rog phone 6, iirc it drops to 50fps at like 45°C and 40fps or lower at 50°C, but it performed much better despite being a snapdragon 8+ gen 1. Even though they can run hotter than Samsung or pixel phones, I'm surprised how crappily they perform compared to xiaomi's flagship and Nubia red magic. Disappointing performance, but if I'm some Normy person who just wants a decent phone, it's great, besides the camera which is even more inconsistent compared even to older OnePlus phones 😔 wtf Asus, your past phone had just one outstanding feature, and you removed it, now all your phone are basic and not even value for money