You cant beat those Maltby TSW Forged Wedges for the price! The guys at golfworks do some amazing work creating premium clubs that go toe to toe with all the major brands for a quarter of the price.
Love my Maltby's. Their stuff cannot be beat for the money. Been playing the Maltby ST-i model,,no longer produced,,, for the last 4-5 years I think. Assembled them myself with the Apollo Phantom stepless shafts cut to stiff flex. Great feel and playability. They hit every bit as good as anything I've tried at my local Dick's. I was allowed to try my 6 iron on their launch monitor. The pro working there hit my $30.00 iron better than a $100+ Titleist. It definitely put a smile on my face seeing that.
I love and have loved Maltby products for the past 7/8 years. I played the MMB17 irons in college. I use their KE Tour driver, KE4 driving iron, the new "rusting face" wedge in my 50° and a 55° I don't believe they make any longer.
the amount of work and effort you put into your videos is amazing and you should know that it does not go unnoticed. also your tips help and inspire me daily.
Very interesting concept. Would love to see a comparison between those and the vokeys or other top of the line wedges. Feel, distance, control and spin rates. Great video though!
I kind of discovered this on accident. I needed a new shaft in my 50 deg and didn't wanna pay for an expensive wedge flex shaft so I threw in a 9 iron shaft and cut it and the increased loading you feel is way better and the spin is crazy. Especially those little 40 yard chips that you nip just right. They hop and stop like hell
I have been employing the “8-iron shaft trick” in my wedges and those of many of my better golfer customers for at least ten years. Since I play stiff graphite shafts (either KBS Tour graphite in 80 grams or Fujikura Axiom 75s) in my 5 through 9 irons, I go gradually heavier in my wedges, starting at 90 grams in the PW and AW, and 100 to 105 grams in the higher lofted wedges. All of my wedge shafts are double soft-stepped, essentially making them 8-iron shafts.
I've read more than one article that didn't recommend soft or hard stepping clubs for most amateur golfers since soft/hard stepping has shown a practically negible difference in performance. Only about 10% of golfers ( the highly skilled whackers ) will notice the difference, and 5% of those Players players will actually benefit from hard and soft stepping.
In my current set up I am hard stepped on my irons. If you dont know what that is, easiest way to understand is that my 8 iron has a 7 iron shaft in it. Now all my wedges, except my pw, are pw shafts and use DG tour issue s400. I get similar results to this, and the shorter yardages are much easier to control. The lack of any feeling of kick or head lag is a true confidence builder, especially with the delicate shots.
It makes a big difference , rather than tipping the wedge shaft , by using a 7 or 8 iron shaft it changes everything !! Twice the feel & control !! If people understand the stepping in a shaft , and not tipping them , this is an amazing trick very few know about ...it really does work .
This video was interesting. I especially like that the Maltby TSW wedges are in it! I bought an entire set of Maltby clubs from Golfworks this summer. They're great value and quality.
Great to see you team up with the AJ Mobile Club Maker, guy is an absolute hero, amazing schooler of club craft work.. My house has a family of golfers : ) 6 golf bags ! Shafts being pull and regripping continuously Please keep up the fusion 👍
Looks like a Maltby TSW forged wedge. Great wedge for extremely affordable price. I also got the TE forged irons, and couldn't be happier. Best value priced quality forged irons I've come across.
@nedpepper2513 I did end up getting a full set of Hogans with an extremely good black Friday promotion. I still love mine....couldn't be happier, but about 3 years ago I promised myself that I would get a set of Hogans, so I did. I will be surprised if there is a noticeable difference. Even with the promotion on the Hogans, the TE's regular price is quite a bit less....especially if you go with a pak bundle.
I use this entire set of Maltby ts1 irons and these wedges... IMO best clubs on the market for the money.. with cheap fst 115 shafts (super cheap) and they are MONEY!!…edited…I had to switch to the projectx io 6.0 shaft as they stopped making the fst115 also am now moving up to the new Maltby ts4 iron in 7 thru GW😊
Glad I watched this thanks Matt! I used to have wedges with stiff flex shafts and felt I hit them better than my new current wedges with the "wedge flex" which everyone is making now. Watching this video made me realize this could be why. I may just go to the local shop and have new shafts put in all my wedges now.
Thanks for sharing. I’ve been using this method for my own wedges for quite some time. If using this method in a 58 and higher lofts, I highly recommend Tiger tipping 1/4”. It’ll cut down spin a negligible amount but firms up the tip enough to prevent lofting the club more at impact. If that makes sense.
I have watched both channels for some time now and both have great content. I discovered this for myself when I had to hit under a tree at what is my sandwedge distance - 95 yds. I could make the ball height decrease and get the ball to stick on the green just by using my 8 iron but going well down the grip, slightly open club face and just a half swing punch shot. Which is.... an easier option than shaft pulling and head changing.
Yes and no. The head on a sand wedge is significantly heavier. Therefore the wedge’s shaft would play way more flexible in an 8 iron shaft than a normal 8 iron head. The idea is that you are using a low launching profile shaft but soft stepped to more closely match the flex of the rest of the set.
Thanks Matt. Great day on the course! Just want everyone to note if you try this method, make sure to go up a flex in the 8 iron shaft. We were using X100 8 iron here comparing to S400 in the standard version. To try at home, just make sure you step up one flex for the 8i shaft you use.
@@BigAlby If you have Dynamic Gold S300 in your irons, then we go to X100 8 iron shaft, straight in and butt cut to length. If you were playing Nippon Modus3 105 R flex in your irons, then 105 S flex 8 iron shaft to have the same idea for that set up. A lot of people have shafts in the wedges that are far heavier then their other irons, with little benefit. Most golfers are better off going same to 10g heavier in the wedge shafts vs the irons. Even at 10g heavier, you can apply the same 1 flex up 8 iron shaft idea.
@@johnduncan6569 Options here get a bit more complex. You could actually tip trim the taper tip wedge shaft a bit. 3/8inch tip trim will usually still fit into hosel. Can also ream the hosel to .370 to fit. Other option would be to move into the Dynamic Gold X7 8 iron shaft.
Maltby's direct to consumer business model cuts out the middle man so more money goes into R&D AND into consumer's pockets. You can also fine tune every aspect of every club you choose. Every order is completely custom. Best Clubs money can buy.
The irony in your statement and this video is that they're using a Maltby TSW wedge. Ralph Maltby was a mentor to Tom Wishon many years ago before Tom broke off to start his own path.
I just got a set of Zipcore wedges in 50, 54, 58 and they do feel more accurate on full shots than my previous wedges with KBS Tour 130 shafts. However, they do feel like they go shorter, but that could be the weather change going from the 80s down to the 60s around the same time. Overall, I played a full round with the wedges and they performed wonderfully from all distances and around the greens.
@@MrJohnnyb74 I don't know if you ever used one before but I have a late nineties Cleveland 588 56°SW raw and rusty a bit plus an old Ping Zing SW with a Sandevik Titanium shaft r flex which both have the old grooves. How would you compare the spin of the newer zipcore grooves to the older wedges? Back at golf again after nine years or so and thinking of newer wedges. Just curious.
just to be clear if you haven't seen elite fit golf's video explaining it, it's not specifically an 8 iron, you club up from the lowest shaft that is offered and go up a stiffness, for example kbs offers a pitching wedge shaft meaning you would go up to a nine iron shaft and then go up to an x-stiff shaft. But in the case of dynamic gold you would get an 8 iron shaft because the lowest shaft they have is a 9 iron, and you would get 8 iron shaft, cut 3/8's inches off the tip and then cut it to the regular shaft length of the wedge you are making. I do highly recommend watching aj's video in explaining it because he does it a lot better than me, but those who don't want to this is a simplified explanation
Did the same thing with my Mack Daddys and did not get the same result. Spin rate stayed around 10k and it won't go 90 yards no matter how hard I hit it. I might get 70 out of a 56. What am I doing wrong?
Great idea AJ. I have used the s200,s300, x100 and the tour issue 400. And to me they where to same.But the KBS 610 shaft is the best shaft to lower your ball fight. Y’all keep up the great work. I enjoy videos y’all make. Thanks
Hey Edward - couldn’t help notice your comment. I’m currently shopping the shafts you mentioned. Are you saying you’ve used all of those shaft and had them soft stepped from an 8i as the video is indicating?? But at the end of the day the KBS 610 was the winner for both Lower Ball flight AND Spin?? Basically asking if you still get good spin numbers with the KBS 610. Thanks!!
Really like AJ. I have been watching him for about a year now. Interesting video I have never heard of using an 8 iron shaft in a wedge before. I would like to try it out.
Glad Mobile Clubmaker is putting it out there that these clubs exist. Just FYI, you can get a set of clubs at a FRACTION of a price of other clubs, and the quality is fantastic.
I use tour issued (TI) X7 - 6 iron shafts in my 52° and 57°. My 62° has a TI X100 - 8 iron shaft in it. I usually keep my wedge trajectories at 20°- 24°. The stopping power is incredible. My spin numbers range from 10450 - 12975.
My 56 and 60 are Cobras both reshafted with a diamonte S PW. I’m 79 yoa and my low 40 yd pitch still backs up. Simple physics. Firmer shaft rubs ball on face longer. People go to softer shafts for “feel.” There is a trade off.
Great tip! Thanks. But here‘s a question that comes along with it. You demonstrated the combination of a 56° (sand) and a 8-iron-shaft. What about the other wedges from 60° (lob) up to 46° (pitching). All to be improved / adjusted by replacement of the 8-iron shaft? Or does each wedge require its specific alternate shaft?
COOL VIDEO AND REALLY INFORMATIVE. IT OCCURS TO ME THIS IS A LITTLE LIKE BRYSON THINKING BUT CUTTING THE SHAFT. I THINK I'LL TRY THIS AGAINST MY STANDARD VOKEY 54.
Cutting down the iron shaft will make the shaft a lot stiffer. Wedge shaft has a different kick point than iron shaft. A less skilled amateur will need the soft kick to produce spin. This trick is for the better players, not for everyone.
@@colinxu8227 I don't think this makes the shaft stiffer, because he's not tipping it (i.e. cutting length off the thin end of the shaft), but you're spot on about the kick point. It will be slightly higher doing this.
@@normlang1994 thanks for the correction. It doesn’t technically change the stiffness. What I meant to say was when you swing it it will “feel a lot stiffer” due to the different kick point
This method will definitely work, good clubmakers have known this for a long time. However for those struggling with high wedge ball flights, you need to learn the proper technique to achieve a low sub 30* launch and 9000+ rpm of spin. In essence, there are 2 main keys to this: 1) You need to have a slightly in/out path 2) You need to intentionally try and catch the ball 1 or 2 grooves TOO LOW on the club face. This creates a gear effect that close the face even further, reducing launch, and raising the spin since the COG of a wedge is typically pretty high in the face. There's a pretty old (but still correct) trackman video on their channel showing this.
Key detail. This is the x100 8 iron. The set is an s300. You Want to use the 8i shaft from a flex up from your current set. Clubmaker said this and it didn’t get highlighted. So s300 irons put 8i x100. Px 6.0 put in 6.5 8i. Etc.
When you have a set of clubs custom fitted or when you buy a set from a major club company, the shafts are all lorn shafts that are then cut to length.
First thing is to make sure your wedge takes a taper tip shaft if you plan on reshafting your own wedge. If your wedge hosel takes a parallel tip shaft then this probably won’t be beneficial because of the extra stiffness caused by taking an extra 2 inches off of the tip.
Soo. Basically if I use dynamic gold s300 for my irons, a dynamic gold s300 wedge shaft should be the same? I guess weight could be the only factor. Or there shafts aren't all that close.
If you need a .370 tip, 41 inch shaft tipped to 8 iron specs and then butt cut to final 35.5 length works. Just make sure that your wedge actually takes a .370 tip shaft as most of the big names use the .355 tip.
The 8 iron shaft is one flex up (x100 instead of s400), that is the key element here. x100 8i shaft installed straight in and then butt cut down to final length.
I've never had this problem for some reason. My natural flight (according to Foresight) is sub 30, usually 27-28*, and just over 9000 spin for a stock full shot. Can hit half lob wedges head high that take one huge bounce and just stop dead. No idea how I do it though.
Hopefully I can explain this correctly😁. In tapered tip .355" shafts, they are assigned to each club by length. You would take an 8i designated shaft and install it in your wedge and cut the butt end to meet your wedge length. In parallel tip .370" shafts, you would tip trim according to the manufacturer designation for an 8i shaft and then butt trim according to your wedge length. Hopefully AJ or another club builder can chime in to confirm
That is very cool - Thanks! Question: hard or soft step it? I am assuming he cut down from the top of the shaft - but would love to know the secret details! Thanks for sharing with Mr. Shortgame!
It's an X100 8 iron shaft. So technically speaking it's 1 soft step (Dynamic Gold doesn't make anything shorter than 9i shaft) but with the stiffer flex.
Building some wedges trying this with 95 gram stiff shafts and I'm having to add like 50 counterweights to the grip end to get it to swing weight in the D6-8 range, is that okay?
Thanks Robert for the comment. I was confused as well at that remark. I think it comes down to the tip trim chart. Just cut the tip to 8 iron and butt trim to wedge length.
You cant beat those Maltby TSW Forged Wedges for the price! The guys at golfworks do some amazing work creating premium clubs that go toe to toe with all the major brands for a quarter of the price.
I'd like to see the affect more in detail and at closer ranges. Like 75 yds 50, 40,30, 20,10. Everyone like this so we can get that video!!
@J Green you are effecting my mental health.
@J Green 😁
Agreed
Love my Maltby's. Their stuff cannot be beat for the money. Been playing the Maltby ST-i model,,no longer produced,,, for the last 4-5 years I think. Assembled them myself with the Apollo Phantom stepless shafts cut to stiff flex. Great feel and playability. They hit every bit as good as anything I've tried at my local Dick's. I was allowed to try my 6 iron on their launch monitor. The pro working there hit my $30.00 iron better than a $100+ Titleist. It definitely put a smile on my face seeing that.
I love and have loved Maltby products for the past 7/8 years. I played the MMB17 irons in college. I use their KE Tour driver, KE4 driving iron, the new "rusting face" wedge in my 50° and a 55° I don't believe they make any longer.
NOT just an 8i shaft, but also needs to be a flex stiffer. So in this video, the normal shaft is DG S300, so it's an 8i X100 shaft.
the amount of work and effort you put into your videos is amazing and you should know that it does not go unnoticed. also your tips help and inspire me daily.
FInally some using Maltby irons and realizing the value and benefit... They are amazing I got the MMB 17 DBM and the DBM tour wedge
Very interesting concept. Would love to see a comparison between those and the vokeys or other top of the line wedges. Feel, distance, control and spin rates. Great video though!
I kind of discovered this on accident. I needed a new shaft in my 50 deg and didn't wanna pay for an expensive wedge flex shaft so I threw in a 9 iron shaft and cut it and the increased loading you feel is way better and the spin is crazy. Especially those little 40 yard chips that you nip just right. They hop and stop like hell
I have been employing the “8-iron shaft trick” in my wedges and those of many of my better golfer customers for at least ten years. Since I play stiff graphite shafts (either KBS Tour graphite in 80 grams or Fujikura Axiom 75s) in my 5 through 9 irons, I go gradually heavier in my wedges, starting at 90 grams in the PW and AW, and 100 to 105 grams in the higher lofted wedges. All of my wedge shafts are double soft-stepped, essentially making them 8-iron shafts.
I've read more than one article that didn't recommend soft or hard stepping clubs for most amateur golfers since soft/hard stepping has shown a practically negible difference in performance. Only about 10% of golfers ( the highly skilled whackers ) will notice the difference, and 5% of those Players players will actually benefit from hard and soft stepping.
In my current set up I am hard stepped on my irons. If you dont know what that is, easiest way to understand is that my 8 iron has a 7 iron shaft in it. Now all my wedges, except my pw, are pw shafts and use DG tour issue s400. I get similar results to this, and the shorter yardages are much easier to control. The lack of any feeling of kick or head lag is a true confidence builder, especially with the delicate shots.
I think that is soft stepping. Hard stepping is when you put the 8-iron shaft in your 7-iron to make it stiffer.
It makes a big difference , rather than tipping the wedge shaft , by using a 7 or 8 iron shaft it changes everything !! Twice the feel & control !! If people understand the stepping in a shaft , and not tipping them , this is an amazing trick very few know about ...it really does work .
This video was interesting. I especially like that the Maltby TSW wedges are in it! I bought an entire set of Maltby clubs from Golfworks this summer. They're great value and quality.
Have to say this is one of the top 3 golf channels on youtube. Get this man to 1M... Keep up the great content MSG
Great to see you team up with the AJ Mobile Club Maker, guy is an absolute hero, amazing schooler of club craft work..
My house has a family of golfers : ) 6 golf bags ! Shafts being pull and regripping continuously
Please keep up the fusion 👍
Looks like a Maltby TSW forged wedge. Great wedge for extremely affordable price. I also got the TE forged irons, and couldn't be happier. Best value priced quality forged irons I've come across.
Same. They're freakin money!
@nedpepper2513
I did end up getting a full set of Hogans with an extremely good black Friday promotion. I still love mine....couldn't be happier, but about 3 years ago I promised myself that I would get a set of Hogans, so I did. I will be surprised if there is a noticeable difference. Even with the promotion on the Hogans, the TE's regular price is quite a bit less....especially if you go with a pak bundle.
I actually have these wedges in 52 and 56 in the raw finish. It's the best wedge I've ever used.
Absolutely love my Maltby TSW wedges
I use this entire set of Maltby ts1 irons and these wedges... IMO best clubs on the market for the money.. with cheap fst 115 shafts (super cheap) and they are MONEY!!…edited…I had to switch to the projectx io 6.0 shaft as they stopped making the fst115 also am now moving up to the new Maltby ts4 iron in 7 thru GW😊
Glad I watched this thanks Matt! I used to have wedges with stiff flex shafts and felt I hit them better than my new current wedges with the "wedge flex" which everyone is making now. Watching this video made me realize this could be why. I may just go to the local shop and have new shafts put in all my wedges now.
Thanks for sharing.
I’ve been using this method for my own wedges for quite some time.
If using this method in a 58 and higher lofts, I highly recommend Tiger tipping 1/4”.
It’ll cut down spin a negligible amount but firms up the tip enough to prevent lofting the club more at impact.
If that makes sense.
Go figure! Custom clubs and setup works. NB: if you missing the ball or the avg joe banana, this might not work as much
Sweet, I've learned so much from AJ in the last couple of months, really cool seeing you guys collab!
Wish you would consider including us on TH-cam for your giveaways since we all aren't on Instagram. Love you videos. Thanks.
I have watched both channels for some time now and both have great content.
I discovered this for myself when I had to hit under a tree at what is my sandwedge distance - 95 yds. I could make the ball height decrease and get the ball to stick on the green just by using my 8 iron but going well down the grip, slightly open club face and just a half swing punch shot.
Which is.... an easier option than shaft pulling and head changing.
Yes and no. The head on a sand wedge is significantly heavier. Therefore the wedge’s shaft would play way more flexible in an 8 iron shaft than a normal 8 iron head.
The idea is that you are using a low launching profile shaft but soft stepped to more closely match the flex of the rest of the set.
Thanks Matt. Great day on the course! Just want everyone to note if you try this method, make sure to go up a flex in the 8 iron shaft. We were using X100 8 iron here comparing to S400 in the standard version. To try at home, just make sure you step up one flex for the 8i shaft you use.
Does that mean go from a STIFF flex to a X and butt trim, or hard step an 8 then butt trim.
@@BigAlby If you have Dynamic Gold S300 in your irons, then we go to X100 8 iron shaft, straight in and butt cut to length. If you were playing Nippon Modus3 105 R flex in your irons, then 105 S flex 8 iron shaft to have the same idea for that set up. A lot of people have shafts in the wedges that are far heavier then their other irons, with little benefit. Most golfers are better off going same to 10g heavier in the wedge shafts vs the irons. Even at 10g heavier, you can apply the same 1 flex up 8 iron shaft idea.
@@EFGMC what if you already play x stiff shafts? I play the kbs tour x.
@@johnduncan6569 Options here get a bit more complex. You could actually tip trim the taper tip wedge shaft a bit. 3/8inch tip trim will usually still fit into hosel. Can also ream the hosel to .370 to fit. Other option would be to move into the Dynamic Gold X7 8 iron shaft.
@@EFGMC thanks for the reply. Very interesting.
Bought the 54 degree two months ago because I couldn't really find a 54 degree that was reasonably priced. Love it very much!
I've been a fan of both of these guys.....Fun to see em work together .. cheers
Maltby's direct to consumer business model cuts out the middle man so more money goes into R&D AND into consumer's pockets. You can also fine tune every aspect of every club you choose. Every order is completely custom. Best Clubs money can buy.
Loved the video. I struggle with spin on my ball so this could be huge help for me.
Tom Wishon talked about this years ago. Like word for word. Awesome to see this being discussed.
The irony in your statement and this video is that they're using a Maltby TSW wedge. Ralph Maltby was a mentor to Tom Wishon many years ago before Tom broke off to start his own path.
I play Maltby forged irons at the moment and love them, could use a new wedge.
Is that what True Temper does for the "Spinner" wedge shafts I've seen, like in the new Cleveland wedges?
yes
I just got a set of Zipcore wedges in 50, 54, 58 and they do feel more accurate on full shots than my previous wedges with KBS Tour 130 shafts. However, they do feel like they go shorter, but that could be the weather change going from the 80s down to the 60s around the same time. Overall, I played a full round with the wedges and they performed wonderfully from all distances and around the greens.
@@MrJohnnyb74 I don't know if you ever used one before but I have a late nineties Cleveland 588 56°SW raw and rusty a bit plus an old Ping Zing SW with a Sandevik Titanium shaft r flex which both have the old grooves. How would you compare the spin of the newer zipcore grooves to the older wedges?
Back at golf again after nine years or so and thinking of newer wedges. Just curious.
just to be clear if you haven't seen elite fit golf's video explaining it, it's not specifically an 8 iron, you club up from the lowest shaft that is offered and go up a stiffness, for example kbs offers a pitching wedge shaft meaning you would go up to a nine iron shaft and then go up to an x-stiff shaft. But in the case of dynamic gold you would get an 8 iron shaft because the lowest shaft they have is a 9 iron, and you would get 8 iron shaft, cut 3/8's inches off the tip and then cut it to the regular shaft length of the wedge you are making. I do highly recommend watching aj's video in explaining it because he does it a lot better than me, but those who don't want to this is a simplified explanation
Did the same thing with my Mack Daddys and did not get the same result. Spin rate stayed around 10k and it won't go 90 yards no matter how hard I hit it. I might get 70 out of a 56. What am I doing wrong?
Great idea AJ. I have used the s200,s300, x100 and the tour issue 400. And to me they where to same.But the KBS 610 shaft is the best shaft to lower your ball fight. Y’all keep up the great work. I enjoy videos y’all make. Thanks
Hey Edward - couldn’t help notice your comment. I’m currently shopping the shafts you mentioned. Are you saying you’ve used all of those shaft and had them soft stepped from an 8i as the video is indicating?? But at the end of the day the KBS 610 was the winner for both Lower Ball flight AND Spin?? Basically asking if you still get good spin numbers with the KBS 610. Thanks!!
@@JonMoore1 check out the dude he partnered with. He posted a video as well in much more detail and describes weighing and shaft flex in detail
Well that was pretty neat! I have watched a few of AJ's club building videos, has some good stuff!
Tip cut or grip end?
Grip cut. Your trying to get a more active tip and firmer butt end. KBS Hi rev use his concept.
Really like AJ. I have been watching him for about a year now. Interesting video I have never heard of using an 8 iron shaft in a wedge before. I would like to try it out.
AJ helped me to understand swing weights. Great channel to follow.
Glad Mobile Clubmaker is putting it out there that these clubs exist.
Just FYI, you can get a set of clubs at a FRACTION of a price of other clubs, and the quality is fantastic.
I use tour issued (TI) X7 - 6 iron shafts in my 52° and 57°. My 62° has a TI X100 - 8 iron shaft in it. I usually keep my wedge trajectories at 20°- 24°. The stopping power is incredible. My spin numbers range from 10450 - 12975.
I'm a club tinkerer and am going to go purchase some 8i shafts that match my current irons to give this a go!
I’ve been using c tapers 120’s in my wedges for years!!!!! 🤷🏻♂️💪🏽 awesome video bro!!!
Great info. Thank you, will definitely try it out.
Wow. Okay I have to try this. Awesome video, nothing to critique. Keep this up, you rock!
Great, now I've got to reshaft my Kirkland wedges.
Very interesting Matt. I thought WedgeFlex was a stiff or xtra stiff version (next step stiffer) than your iron make up.
Results!
Maybe this was answered before, but is this only cut down from butt end? I’m going to make one of these and try it out.
I have heard about this before, and the results are good, Thanks to TXG
Great vid. Not sure mucking around with my own wedge shafts is a realistic idea, but I'd love to try it out!
My 56 and 60 are Cobras both reshafted with a diamonte S PW. I’m 79 yoa and my low 40 yd pitch still backs up. Simple physics. Firmer shaft rubs ball on face longer. People go to softer shafts for “feel.” There is a trade off.
Great tip! Thanks. But here‘s a question that comes along with it. You demonstrated the combination of a 56° (sand) and a 8-iron-shaft. What about the other wedges from 60° (lob) up to 46° (pitching). All to be improved / adjusted by replacement of the 8-iron shaft? Or does each wedge require its specific alternate shaft?
8i shaft in all of them. But up one flex or weight class usually. That wasn’t obvious in the video. Clubmaker said this was an x100 8i not an s300 8i
Thanks for the pro tip. Great content. Cheer from Canada
COOL VIDEO AND REALLY INFORMATIVE. IT OCCURS TO ME THIS IS A LITTLE LIKE BRYSON THINKING BUT CUTTING THE SHAFT. I THINK I'LL TRY THIS AGAINST MY STANDARD VOKEY 54.
I once heard that Trevino used to put all one-iron shafts in his clubs, just cut down to length. Probably helped him with that flat swing of his.
Thanks you,always have great content in your video’s.
Pretty Cool Info. Many Thanks.
That's fairly amazing, why is everyone not doing that
Cutting down the iron shaft will make the shaft a lot stiffer. Wedge shaft has a different kick point than iron shaft. A less skilled amateur will need the soft kick to produce spin. This trick is for the better players, not for everyone.
@@colinxu8227 I don't think this makes the shaft stiffer, because he's not tipping it (i.e. cutting length off the thin end of the shaft), but you're spot on about the kick point. It will be slightly higher doing this.
Very intrigued! Now to find an 8 iron. Lol
@@normlang1994 thanks for the correction. It doesn’t technically change the stiffness. What I meant to say was when you swing it it will “feel a lot stiffer” due to the different kick point
I have heard of 3 woods shafts with Driver heads. This is new to me.
Coolest golf video I’ve seen yet. Outstanding content.
This method will definitely work, good clubmakers have known this for a long time. However for those struggling with high wedge ball flights, you need to learn the proper technique to achieve a low sub 30* launch and 9000+ rpm of spin. In essence, there are 2 main keys to this: 1) You need to have a slightly in/out path 2) You need to intentionally try and catch the ball 1 or 2 grooves TOO LOW on the club face. This creates a gear effect that close the face even further, reducing launch, and raising the spin since the COG of a wedge is typically pretty high in the face. There's a pretty old (but still correct) trackman video on their channel showing this.
Key detail. This is the x100 8 iron. The set is an s300. You
Want to use the 8i shaft from a flex up from your current set.
Clubmaker said this and it didn’t get highlighted.
So s300 irons put 8i x100. Px 6.0 put in 6.5 8i. Etc.
The numbers don't lie!! Can't wait to win this 😉
Totally awesome… can’t wait to try it
Interesting and would love to try it myself.
When you have a set of clubs custom fitted or when you buy a set from a major club company, the shafts are all lorn shafts that are then cut to length.
Gotta remember that one .
interesting. I typically do not have a problem with my wedges, but it will definitely be worth an experiment.
Interesting concept, but I’d like to see the spin rates at shorter distances. Great vids and keep up the great work.
Tiger step
That sounds great, need to try this
I watched this again but my question this time is: how did you like the Maltby wedge? Is it comparable to the OEMs? Thanks
A.J. always has something interesting. I'm going to try it.
Thanks for the data! I’m going to try it:)
Wow that’s pretty interesting I for. Another great video! 👍🏼
That's interesting innovation!
Nice , would love to have more control. 😀
Great vid…funny I’ve already been a subscriber of his channel. He also did a great test of ball center of gravity.
First thing is to make sure your wedge takes a taper tip shaft if you plan on reshafting your own wedge. If your wedge hosel takes a parallel tip shaft then this probably won’t be beneficial because of the extra stiffness caused by taking an extra 2 inches off of the tip.
Soo. Basically if I use dynamic gold s300 for my irons, a dynamic gold s300 wedge shaft should be the same? I guess weight could be the only factor. Or there shafts aren't all that close.
Smart.
Impressive results.
Does it have to be a raw eight iron shaft length or can it be a raw 41 inch shaft that you use for your irons cut down to 35.50 inches will both work?
If you need a .370 tip, 41 inch shaft tipped to 8 iron specs and then butt cut to final 35.5 length works. Just make sure that your wedge actually takes a .370 tip shaft as most of the big names use the .355 tip.
@@EFGMC thanks for info
I can’t wait to try this!
I'm a bit confused about "8 iron shaft, cut down to wedge length"? Did that change the kick point, or stiffen up the shaft?
The 8 iron shaft is one flex up (x100 instead of s400), that is the key element here. x100 8i shaft installed straight in and then butt cut down to final length.
I've never had this problem for some reason. My natural flight (according to Foresight) is sub 30, usually 27-28*, and just over 9000 spin for a stock full shot. Can hit half lob wedges head high that take one huge bounce and just stop dead. No idea how I do it though.
It's because, for the most part, it's technique. I plan to make my own comment describing it.
Im a little confused, i don't understand, you say a 8iron shaft and cut it down. But when i look at shats I don't see the identified by iron numbers?
Hopefully I can explain this correctly😁.
In tapered tip .355" shafts, they are assigned to each club by length. You would take an 8i designated shaft and install it in your wedge and cut the butt end to meet your wedge length.
In parallel tip .370" shafts, you would tip trim according to the manufacturer designation for an 8i shaft and then butt trim according to your wedge length.
Hopefully AJ or another club builder can chime in to confirm
I guess I should have read the comments for details on how to cut the shaft to length before I wasted $ on 2 shafts and grips. Lesson learned.
follow both channels - nice to see the collaboration - the infamous Spinner Shaft
That is very cool - Thanks! Question: hard or soft step it? I am assuming he cut down from the top of the shaft - but would love to know the secret details! Thanks for sharing with Mr. Shortgame!
It's an X100 8 iron shaft. So technically speaking it's 1 soft step (Dynamic Gold doesn't make anything shorter than 9i shaft) but with the stiffer flex.
Already subscribed to mobile club maker’s channel, cool you two got together
Love them!!!
Building some wedges trying this with 95 gram stiff shafts and I'm having to add like 50 counterweights to the grip end to get it to swing weight in the D6-8 range, is that okay?
Typically you go up in weight with wedge shafts as well.
I would love to try that wedge!!
Great video thank you
I did it with kzg iron heads soft stepped to 8 iron need to bend to lower loft as distance is slightly less
Soft-stepping has been around for ever but it is only those that get fitted for the wedges that seem to hear about it.
Uh oh...... Showing Maltby to everyone..... That might not be good for those of us that've been playing Maltby for years. Best wedge out there IMO
Very interesting concept but I didn't know that each club had its own shaft
Thanks Robert for the comment. I was confused as well at that remark. I think it comes down to the tip trim chart. Just cut the tip to 8 iron and butt trim to wedge length.