NEW Beretta 30X Pistols: The Cats are Reborn!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ม.ค. 2024
- In this episode of TFBTV, @JamesReeves is at Beretta talking with Nico about the new Beretta 30X series. The 30X series is a remastered, reborn version of the Beretta Bobcat and Beretta Tomcat family with better reliability, ergonomics, additional features and variants, and lower cost. Watch this video for more info about this new line of pistols, and be sure to subscribe to TFBTV Show Time!
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*gun exists that’ll conceal in women’s medium sized shorts*
James: “Shut up & take my money!”
That’s hilarious lmao
im also james in this scenario lol
And a thong if you're THICC enough
Well done sir!!!
It says beretta on it, James is getting it regardless if it fits in his shorts.
Im glad the folks at Beretta have a sense of humor. The muzzle break and optic are filled with whimsy!
I agree. Many manufactures are do cool things, but can way too serious at the same time. Keep the goofy stuff coming.
*brake
It’s funny. The optic blocks the easy loading barrel.
It’s that time of year again boyos. Lunchtime just got a whole lot better.
Who eats lunch at 1am🤣
@@poip202to be fair, they put out so many videos every year, we will all have plenty of stuff to watch at lunch
Toilet time*
@@poip202 I do 😂😂😂 Night Crue. in the cool of the morning that's when I'm coming home, STAYED AWAKE ALL NIGHT. 😂😂😂
Look awake in front of the boss time
"It's so stupid." - Nico, describing his own product. I love it and I want one
Beretta is stepping up their game...the 80x, the 92xi (to name a few). Didn't have to reinvent the wheel, just listen to customers and improve on classics. If only Glock could do this!
if they were stepping up their game, they would have made it double stack. theres no point to this redesign
@@maximusjoseppi5904That's the next redesign. Gotta leave something to keep them coming back.
Beretta APX line as well
Glock makes an MOS model too. Maybe no threaded barrel but it’s illegal in the biggest markets anyways
The 80x sucked.
It has more recoil than a 9mm, while being the size of one. And a terribly designed beaver tail.
The boys having fun model needs to be the standard😂😂
The Tomcat with a red dot is adorable ☺️ hopefully .32ACP will get more popular now.
I dont think so.
32 is stupid expensive now. I don’t see it changing.
@@banacek8675 Its no more expensive than .380 or .40 S&W.
I'd prefer 30 super carry
@@backcountrywarfighter9472 30SC is a total different animal. It has more pressure than 9mm +p+ and the same recoil as 9mm.
Tacticool mouse gun 😂
The future is awesome 😂 weird, yet awesome
My Bobcat has been one of the most reliable 22 pistols I've ever shot, I absolutely love that thing. Really excited to see they are expanding on that platform and having fun with it! Fingers crossed for a 20X!
Ah, so thats why there was a $150 rebate on the old model last year
I literally just scooped the bobcat covert with walnut grips.. Shouldve waited! Doh..
Makes sense now. Almost bought the 32 ACP model.
me too!@@ScottyBennitone
@@donmiller8152 replaceable sights wouldve been nice:(
I didn't snap one up for my remtal inventory because I thought they were discontinuing the series altogether regretting that now
I know it’s an anemic caliber.. but it would be cool if 25acp and 32acp were brought back to mainstream market and repopularized again with these pistols. I own an old .22lr and a Taurus clone of the 25acp. Fun guns for sure.
I still see a chunk of 32 around fairly regularly but 25 auto now that's one you don't see much and yeas I agree I'd love to see that cartridge come back around and see how hard it can be pushed with modern technology and material development.
CZ83 in 32 are sometimes available. Excellent gun in 380 and 32 with over 12 rounds
Too costly and not worth the investment.
I just dont get it
I agree, my pocket carry a colt jr
There's no reason they can't drastically improve the ballistics of 25 and 32 the way they did 380. I'm weird in that I would much rather carry low recoil, low capacity, super easy to conceal smaller guns than even the micro compacts. Hell, even micros in 32 would be sick
I really, really want that one with the muzzle brake and extended magazine. Man I hope they offer that one in the line-up!
These are superb little CCW's.
The gun doesnt need fancy features when it is that concealable.
One of the best firearms I had was a Beretta 45ACP Cougar. I used it in IDPA and USPSA tournaments and it always performed well.
This is truly fun for Beretta nerds. Thank you James and Pietro!!
They are absolutely adorable. Love these wooden grips, really classy things!
A reissue of the Beretta Model 71 in .22lr would be nice.
Threaded and with suppressor hight sights pl3as3
And the Model 70 in .380
This
When I saw the red dot mount that totally block the bullet insert I laughed out loud. Thought it was great humor...then I saw that they actually did it! 😆
always loved the cats. Dropped off the radar in like 2015 for a minute. Glad to see them
Here we go... first of many, top quality vids from TFBTV!
Absolutely love this. Only gripe with my threaded tomcat I had was the sights. Now that we can get “actual” sights, I will be buying another.
“Just after the shot” bro it’s 3 months later and it’s not here!!! PLEASE RELEASE IT TODAY!!!!
I dont how someone has an italian and southern accent at the same time but this man does and im here for it
I carry a Tomcat a lot of times now. I am all in on this redesign! Fantastic pistols already, and it seems they’ve made them even better now.
Love it! I’ve had the 21 for two decades, great gun to run suppressed!
Thanks! Love Beretta and your videos!
Brilliant work Beretta!!!
Great job Beretta! 👏🏻
I love this
More beauty from Beretta! I love it!
I love my 3032 Tomcat. It makes me happy to see it getting an upgrade.
That's actually a good idea. Update the tomcats and the 22lr version too.
Enjoyed the info! Thanks!
These are so cool. Many won't think these are useful but they are fun and that's enough.
Man, be ideal for EDC, when fishing or hiking or in work suit or whatever, so compact and easy to take with you. I love.
@0.31 takes place the day after tomorrow, tomorrow it depends on how you look at it / hm sure lets look at it from the perspective of yesterday.. lol
Just got a 22 bobcat and that thing is coming to the range every time! It’s fun!🥳
I have had the bobcat for about 8 years, really enjoying it. It’s in my pocket much of the time. Now I’m really interested in the new 30X.
Time for another trip to the store
Reeves always on point with the synthwave bumper music
The 32 ACP is actually a decent last ditch caliber which outperforms 22LR. 22 Mag, and 25 ACP when all are fired in short 2-3'' barrels lengths. However, the best upgrade for this design would be to find a way to have it chambered in 380 ACP without making it appreciably larger
Really what I was hoping for here.
The barrel looks thicker so at first I thought this is a .380 version. 32 ACP is 8mm 380 9mm so actually the gun wouldnt have to be significant bigger. Its just a half mm on each side.
A pistol of that size would most likely be absolutely miserable to shoot in 380.
You think that's what you want, but you really don't. A 380 in this size would be miserable to shoot. I've had Seecamps in both 380 and 32, and while the 32 is still a little spicy, it's acceptable. The 380 is completely unshootable and was the first gun I ever regretted buying and quickly sold.
@@Gieszkanne It really would be nice to have a 380 ACP version
Really excited for the 30X series. My 3032 is a favorite jacket carry.
If Ruger won't release the LCP in 32, I guess Beretta will keep the niché market share that my weird little mind longs for.
🦓💚
Kel-Tec would beg to differ.
@@WALTERBROADDUS I mean...yeah, I guess? But I want a Ruger 32.
@@CREEPINGIRON which they ripped off from Kel-Tec in the first place.
@@WALTERBROADDUS okie dokies, shakka brah.
@creepingiron I’ve owned 3 LCP, 2x LCP 1 “custom” and a LCP 2, none of them were very reliable. Ruger definitely copied their P3AT to make the LCP 1. My P32 which is essentially the P3AT has been perfect and I carry it very often because I wear scrubs and it is so damn light. They are cheap guns with terrible sights, you should buy one and try it, they are great.
would love to see 32 make a comeback and a new model 81 Cheetah.
Love the Retro 80's Graphics Intro! Guns are cool too! 👊💪👍👌😋
Tip top barrel, one of my favorite pistol designs
Ahhhh Show season! Modernizing a classic. Improved performance with modern features.
Beretta MUST redesign the Pico for 30 Supper Carry. Just increase the magazine to accept the longer cartridge overall length. Keep the restrike feature. Add capacity to 8 standard and +2 extended magazine.
Don't increase the gun width.
3.25" barrel length.
Slick sights machined in slide.
Perfect pocket pistol.
You understand the 30 super carry generates three times the pressure of a 380 right? You would kaboom that gun, can't put 30 super carry in anything smaller than a 9mm frame
Greetings. I am very familiar with the difference in chamber pressure. 380 ACP is 21k and 30SC is 50k. The case diameter of 380 ACP is .374" and the case diameter of the 30 SC is .342" So the difference could be added to the chamber and barrel wall thickness. The Pico is rated at +P from Beretta even though there is no +P SAAMI cartridge for 380ACP like there is for 9mm. Underwood Ammo makes a 380 ACP +P round that generates 296 ft-lbs which is just shy of the 347 for 30 SC. The Pico has a width of .7" and the Nano has a width of .9" and it fires 9mm Luger with a case diameter of .391". The PICO is hard to grip. Increasing the purchase of the grip for the longer 30 SC would make more ergonomic. The PICO grip is too short as well. Single stack of 8 rounds of the smaller diameter but longer 30 SC would greatly improved ergonomics. An extended +2 magazine would be useful as a home defense option and still satisfy the Commie-forniacs. No one makes this optimized pocket pistol in 30 SC which is an untapped market. A blend of the Pico and Nano with a .8" width, 8 round flush fit magazine and 3.25" barrel chambered in 30SC is what I envision for an ideal pocket carry. Screw a bunch of holsters. The PICO restrike feature is a must have feature. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.380_ACP en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.30_Super_Carry en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_Pico underwoodammo.com/380-acp-p-65-grain-xtreme-defender/ www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-review-beretta-pico/ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_Nano @@crazyirishmedic9535
@@keithal1478 But its 32acp not 380 acp also you need a much stronger delay than just blow back for 3 times the pressure. Thats why there is no 9mm blow back.
Greetings. I realize this pistol is 32 ACP. I would rather carry hot Aguila 22LR than 32 or 25 ACP. If Beretta will spend this kind of money and engineering (essentially a new gun) updating a useless caliber MAYBE they would spend the same money on make a hybrid blend of the Pico and Nano in 30 SC for a real pocket pistol in a real caliber to meet a real need that no one is addressing. There are A LOT of people who pocket carry 38 spl 2.5" barrel, 5 shot revolvers. There are people like me who want to pocket carry something thin and modern. I am not interesting in holsters AT ALL ... not IWB, OWB Appendix or whatever. Heck if Beretta or someone would provide a pair of new blue jeans with 1" wider pockets with each new gun purchase, set up for holding a pocket sleeve and easier draw .... The market would go off like the P365 did several years ago. I hope Reeves or TFB someone reads these comments and tells Beretta to WTF up for the opportunity. Thanks for writing. @@Gieszkanne
@@keithal1478 There are some slim 9mm pocket pistols. You dont need 30sc. Nobody does.
Grandma is going to have a blaster that she can actually cycle the action!
It's obviously better than the 3032 because it has functional sights. The 3032 had crappy low-profile mousegun sights thay couldn't be removed or replaced and were basically meant to be ignored. Suppressor-height sights and even optics make sense for this gun if you believe in aiming your weapon at your target. The best option for the 3032 was aftermarket laser grips.
Langdon Tactical announced a 3032 with a red dot mount about a week ago. I wanted one until I saw this (and they'll probably switch to a 30X LTT right away).
Earlier 3032s had a notorious issue with the frame cracking. That was apparently fixed in later produced models, but the 3032 retained a reputation for low durability. That Beretta continued to demanded users use low-power .32 ACP ammunition to ensure reliability did not inspire confidence.
On paper, the Kel-Tec P-32 is a superior carry gun in every way. It is much lighter and thinner, less expensive, and despite it's weaker materials and lower build quality it can handle more powerful .32 ACP ammo (readily available and normal among European manufacturers), which is very useful to wring more power from this little pistol in a self-defense situation. But the 3032 Tomcat had it's niche: it was a larger, more robust gun that was more fun to shoot.
It's interesting that Beretta has chosen to keep the pistol in it's niche. The sales rep had nothing to say about reducing weight. I didn't notice giant hand-filling wood grips, but this is still like a Sig P365-380 or Ruger Security .380 or S&W 380-EZ: not the smallest and lightest .380s, but better shooters than the smaller guns like the Ruger LCP and Kel-Tec P3AT and still small enough to carry. For some people, the P-32 is too small. Or they want to have more fun at the range with their little pocket pistol and so they want something more customizable and better feeling and less like a utilitarian piece of cheap plastic. Maybe they're still waiting on the Kel-Tec P-32 LTT.
The 30X will be only .32 worth carrying if you don't want a Kel-Tec. And while it's probably at least 50% thicker and heavier, it's still a tiny gun and is a more capable weapon. All the .32s on the market are dated (where are the double-stack mouseguns?), and I'm really happy to see one of the best manufacturers engineering a new superior .32 pistol. I am a great believer in .32s. i don't want a .380 in a pistol this small and light. .32 ACP has double the energy of .22LR and .25ACP. Commonplace FMJ .32 rounds are capable of deep penetration, and there are now good high-end defensive rounds available (like Underwood).
I'm excited. I want one. The ultimate in deep concealment weaponry is still the P-32, but that's not what the 30X tries to be. It's trying to be a much better gun that's a lot more fun at the range. Something good to shoot, not just to carry. And still smaller than a J-frame revolver (which continues to be relevant as still significantly more reliable than any semi-auto of this size).
So the 30X is a superior 3032. More durable, reliable, and it has superior and removable sights that offer a quick sight picture. Extended mags, threaded barrels, and maybe even muzzle breaks available. This would be a fun gun for competitions. It will be a great backup gun option, one of the very best ever. What's not to like? Beretta has worked to improve their products. Their tip-up barrel pistols remain popular and commonly used for both recreational shooting and self-defense. Now they made better versions. At least, that's the claim. But O believe Beretta can pull it off. Good job, Beretta. I hope to buy one of these pistols if they're as good as I hope they are.
Double-stack .32? Beretta and CZ both made those in the 1980's. I think the Beretta was the Model 83, and the CZ was the CZ 84 (?).
Beretta 82 Target .22
83 .32
84 .380
85 single-stack .380
86 pop-up barrel, single-stack .380
CZ 82 9×18 Makarov
CZ 83 9×17 Kurz
CZ-84 (or maybe it was 81?) 7,65 Kurz
I legit feel like I just read a full on article 😂😊🎉
I love Berettas for their aesthetic and history, but I wonder if the commitment to the legacy open-top slide design is holding back some of these reimagined guns. The 30, 80, and 90 series guns all have slide widths that are massively thicker than any competitor's, and as a non-engineer I wonder if that's required for strength because the slide lacks structure across the open top. There is absolutely no other reason a single-stack 380 like the 80 series should be so thick, or why a 32 like the 30 series should be so massively chunky. I still love these guns, but I wish there were a way for Beretta to deploy some more modern engineering or metallurgy/materials science to retain the same iconic open-top design while slimming down these legacy designs.
how far away are you shooting a gun like this that you need prlptsights?
@@its_cleani think Is more for add more balance & weight (a compromise for this iconic slide without the full covered lenght you're speacking about) maybe also design choice to enhance the "steps" from barrel to slide.
One thing Is sure: it's not for a quality issue. Beretta, as every other italian gun, are on the peak as inventive, engeneering and quality..
This world wouldnt be the same without the Italians great talents well done !
I like the idea of a model with a slide lock for a suppressor. It’d be a neat piece.
Right, because you're a super secret assassin who needs zero noise signature
@chrism4008 alright fun police, calm down
I think the aftermarket makes that already
@@chrism4008 More so for retaining brass because reloading is neat, but sure.
With no extractor? Pain.
I bought the old version on sale, it is still a fun gun to shoot. I hope the 10rd magazines aren’t too expensive on their own.
Gorgeous little pocket pistols. Excited to see what Beretta does in the next few years with their 500th anniversary around the corner!
Very cool, looks like a lot of fun
I could mot be happier that they are going back and breathing new life into their old designs!
Please bring the concept to life !!!!
I genuinely love these ngl
Been waiting for weeks for showtime
Let's goooo!!
Thanks bro!
Im actually excited for this. With the P32 no longer in production, someone has to do it.
OMFG those new 30X models are really great. I'm gonna have to get the one with the comp.
This Nikko guy sounds like a son of an Italian Mob Boss 💀
I love my Tomcat 3032, can carry it anywhere. These are some good upgrades.
Nice. Now I know why I was able to by my Tomcat a few months ago for $250. So happy I was able to pick 1 up before discontinued at such a great price. Hopefully several of the upgraded features will also work with the older models.
Nice. I also purchased a Tomcat Covert model in black for $200 after rebate.
Good report. I have 3032. Thanks
Hopefully they do this with the 22LR guns too. Better sights, optics ready, threaded barrel would be perfect
The 21A comes with a threaded barrel but the sights are atrocious
Very cool little pop guns
That intro is fire!
Cool guns! Good direction beretta
With features like fits in bag and takes suppressor preppers will love it
Nah, those sorts of preppers “don’t want to be on any lists” and refuse to buy suppressors. Though I suppose some of them get threaded barrels because when “it” comes, they’ll just make their oil filter nonsense or some such
@@timunderbakke8756 they don't want to be on any lists, but half of them own property - registered as such, and the others are registered tenants of a property. Preppers are just a corner of a market, a group of nutters to sell stuff to. It's why the sales representative even mentions them
It's an oddball caliber so I doubt it will take off as a serious carry or defensive gun.
Great discussion
nice love the one with comp muzzle break
Beretta is such a good company.
Good interview, Nico was super chill & well spoken
I love it, hopefully i will be able to find it in store in CZ soon.
I'm looking forward to your coverage of SHOT, James. It's always the best!
Please cover some of the guns you don't like, also!
i always like the music you guys use for these videos
Definitely want one of these!
Love it!!
I'm definitely getting the minimalist version when it comes out
Underwood makes a decent self defense round in .32 and I’ve got a few of the tactical pistols suppressed already so other than the optic mount, I’m not sure I’m in for these. Almost pulled the trigger on the FDE model Ernie Langdon jazzed up with optic and trigger job on Black Friday which would’ve been around $650.
Such a beautiful little gun!
For the naysayers ; these guns will sell - I am talking the standard model . Most Beretta lovers/groupies will want one. Then there is the aging hobbyists - the over 70 years old crowd of long time pistol owners . They have gotten skinny and frail , cannot wear a holster due to elderly body shape or strength. These new mouse guns keep them in the hobby and are really sensible self defense carry guns . THe feature of never having to rack a slide , has always been known by true elderly hobbyists but now , things are more appealing with the ability to change out sights to assist elderly eyes and the ability to have increased capacity magazines .That standard configuration will not fly off the shelves , but its sales numbers should increase over the old standard imo
I am not a groupie, if I get a plain one for $400 I will definitely buy it
Not only one with tip up barrel, Taurus and Girsan have one but no doubt this heads and shoulders better than those others, looks like it would be a hoot to shoot, well done James as always
Yeah but then you have to buy turkish
Amazing!
Not sure the market is there, but I hope it goes well for Beretta. The design updates seem on point.
I really like where they're going with this. Hopefully they'll consider doing the same treatment to the 21a line. I've always wanted a bobcat with a nicer "match" barrel and adjustable sights.
I don’t know why I’m so excited for these 😂
Sheeesshh I'm in love with this design that's soooo awesome the 30xR model is my favorite
Bring THE CONTENT TFB!!!
wow. great pick on sig)
I haven’t seen one of these yet that functions reliably. No matter the ammo.
Good stuff!! Still waiting on a double stack model 71 jaguar!!!
Lovin that Beretta
My grandpas two carry guns were a S&W Jframe (that I know have) and a Beretta .32 tomcat (that I don’t have) will be getting one in stainless with wood grip, threaded barrel and red dot
Thank goodness for the suppressor; those 32Auto rounds are brutal! 🤣
I mean. Yeah? In this short barrel it can make you go deaf in a closed space like a car
I'm just not sure if these smaller cat guns were really ready for a reboot, but each change is good. Moving the mag release is great, and having standardized THIN wood grips will hopefully make holster options easier, esp. as these aren't true pocket guns. These guns were updated back in the day to make them wider to avoid the frame cracking issue, which still didn't work. These ones seem to still be the wide model "fat cats", right James? I would love a clear answer on whether being "twice as durable" includes improve frame durability with all ammo. And one obvious thing, how about an extractor!!! That's the real reason I didn't buy a tomcat this Christmas, even with the nice rebate they were doing. You can have the most concealable gun in the world but no one wants to have to carry a ramrod to clear a stuck case for a CC gun. I'd love to see a Kel-Tec P32 with a manual safety, but the wood grips are just such a nice niche for Beretta to fill on pocket guns, j-frames are still quite bigger than a Tomcat iirc.
The P32 has a pretty long, heavy DA trigger pull. I pocket carry mine with a trigger guard instead of a holster. 7 plus 1, very light at 6.6 oz, and 100% reliable so far. Great back-up piece. Lack of a safety isn’t an issue IMO.
How does the gun extract the cartridge without an extractor?
@palmereldritch1974 Blowback guns like this will launch the casing out of the chamber even without an extractor and with Berettas open slide design it ejects perfectly fine. The reason we still want an extractor is for keeping malfunction drills the same across all our pistols. When you have a bad round in the chamber on these, racking the slide doesn't pull the round out of the chamber.
Think about it….you can’t have a tip up barrel AND an extractor on the slide. If you want a small 32 with an extractor grab a Keltec or a Seecamp or NAA. If you want a tip up barrel get a Beretta.
@@LifeisGood762That to me seems to disqualify these as serious self-defense guns as if the 32 caliber didn't already.
I can't wait!
Very cool
Yes!!!
Glad I got a box of lehigh 32 acp xtreme cavitator. Carry that in my Tomcat and spare mag. Can only find the bullets now for reloading so glad I got them when I did. Best 32acp cartridge.
It reminds me of the pistol Scout uses in Team Fortress 2. I love it!