Mr. "Bwana", Appreciate the skill and wisdom of an armorer, but wasn't the "L" Frame S&W supposed to address the "drawbacks" of the "K" Frame, which was never designed for a steady diet of High-Pressure .357 Mags! Respt. yrs., Blsgs, gg
Yes......the cutaway version of a working model. Truly the work of a machinist who knows what he's doing. Fantastic! Who doesn't like to watch how things work?
Not really a new feature (korth/manurhin did those decades ago) but certainly valuable and highly convenient imo the doubly adjustable spring tension is more valuable than the toolless cylinder swap outside of a couple of use cases (like when using big ISSF target grips that prevent case ejection or preventing the cylinder screw from walking) since adjusting mainspring and rebound spring weight on a normal S&W requires you to dissamble the gun and replace the springs and change them out until you find a set up that works (but might not work for certain primers) whereas the cylinder swap is still silly easy on a S&W style gun (like my MR-73) because you literally just unscrew ONE screw that isn't covered by anything
The new Diamondback has toolless cylinder removal, apples/oranges I know, but my point is there's no real reason why most revolvers can't have both those features, at a fraction of the cost.
While I agree the 627 is a marvelous firearm, it’s noticeably larger then my python when carrying it. Can’t go wrong either way, just depends on if you plan to attempt concealment.
Happy to see the renewed interest in top quality revolvers. Manurhin, Korth, Spohr, quality is not out of style. Those Nill grips are probably worth their own episode.
Fantastic! I’ll never own one because of the cost. But I can appreciate the craftsmanship and beauty. Congrats to anyone else who can drop that kind of 💰 for one of these.
They have a "cheaper" model, the L562 4" for $2,699. I know it's not cheap, but I think the price is fair for what it is and way more realistic for most people than 3,800. Still a lot of money, of course. But I think it's fair for what is is and how it's made.
German/germanic (austria/switzerland) engineering really is great, so long as you don't have penny pushers ruining it by cost cutting (fortunately missing here)
Spohr is not even that expensive though. They have an entry-level model (the L562) for $2,699 or 2,449€ (in Germany) which is fair for a gun of that quality. I was looking into the L562 and the only reason I didn't buy it is because I got an extremely good deal on a used S&W 686 with a perfect trigger job. And the damn thing shoots so good now I can't justify spending more money on a Spohr. But I certainly would've bought Spohr instead of a new 686, which is around 1,500€ in Germany (off the shelf with no tuning)
@@maximilianmustermann5763 The pricing is extremely fair in europe for sure it's on par with performance center S&W's and colt's, neither of which can even compare in quality and servicing to the spohrs
Hey James, Thanks a lot for the cool video! I really like to show you our new products at the IWA show in Nürnberg. See you in four weeks. We are at hall 3c - booth 106! See you soon - Thomas Spohr
I loves the aesthetics… so many revolvers look so similar to others. This has such a unique almost steampunk esquié style like the Chiappa Rhino… the price unfortunately means I’ll never own one 😢
It takes a guy from Germany to spell out that MIM trigger parts don't work. American Revolver makers have been saying for years MIM is just as good when it's not. To those who have experienced MIM part failures we know MIM is not suitable for duty use. He wasn't lying about 500 rounds before failure. I had one failure three separate times at around 350 to 500 round count. Same MIM part, same failure rate. Thanks Tomas Spohr for your words of wisdom and telling it like it is.
Say what you want about germans but when it comes to mechanical or mechanically inclined people engineering metallurgy they're unbeatable I don't really care for revolvers but they're awesome
I just received my 286 competition last week . put an ultra dot lt on it ( old eyes ) the finest revolver i have ever owned. It puts my SW 686 to shame. Sighting it in at a small indoor range 20 yard max, it shot 1 inch group unsupported with cheep factory 38 sp ammo single action. Was shooting 3 inch groups in fast double action
One suggestion and one question: (1) offer a 7-shot .327 federal magnum/.32 S&W Long chambering and (2) are the external dimensions more like a K frame or an L Frame?
size wise? Beefed up L frame with the forcing cone/barrel thickness of an N-frame (and also the weight of an N-frame) if the demand is there they most likely could develop a 7 shot .357 or even .327 fedmag, not sure how big the cylinder's gotta be for an 8 shot .32 H&R mag
Lot of ignorance on display regarding MIM manufacturing. There are tons of firearm applications where it shines far and beyond that of traditional forging and machining. The issue with MIM is failure due to poor quality control and protocols. However, once dialed in, MIM produces a part with consistent hardness and grain structure throughout. With the proper application, you can end up with a SUPERIOR part. MIM has its place and limitations as well.
Well, it's the same as how a $200k-plus Purdey doesn't really do anything that a £200 Turkish shotgun can't. High-end stuff has always been a market of its own.
I mean even if the gun is 4.5K it's still better looking and likely better made than Korth while coming in cheaper for equivalent models. Really nice stuff, can't wait to see the large frames!
James making me go broke....10mm CMMG Banshee. Berretta 1301 Mod2, now this damn revolver I cant live without. Thanks bro. Will work for food. And guns.
German craftsmanship is next level. They make incredibly complex watches and I’ve no doubt this revolver with all its balanced small parts and springs would be amazing. I own a Manhurin MR73 in .357/.38. I don’t see how you can improve on it but I haven’t handled one of these so who knows.
These start at 2,799.00 3 & 4 inch .357 add PVD black coating, a 9mm cylinder and 5 moon clips for 1,600.00 $4399.00 PLUS TAX. Rich mans concealed/open carry SIX SHOT REVOLVER! 3-inch Colt Python NIB 1,499.00. Doesn't take a rocket scientist boys.
James, at the last IWA you said you had a review copy but we never saw you post anything about it to my knowledge? Will we see a TFB review of these fine wheelguns in the near future?
Beautiful looking revolvers! Love that quick removal of the cylinder. Did eveyone catch tha fact that they cant carry guns in Germany so the safety factor of the transfer bar on a revolver isn't important. Then comes the price of nearly $4000.00. This isnt going to be a big seller here in the USA. Like the Korth German revolvers it's well built and attractive but very few here will ever buy 1.
I hear what you’re saying, but at my club I see a lot of shooters that have 4k into multiple ARs and have become comfortable with that kind of spending. They’re burned out on polymer and looking for more legacy possessions. I think these will do well in the same market as Korth and Manhurin.
@@Abledoggie42 It may sell in Europe but I guaranty this isn't going to make a profit here in the US. In Europe having far less guns that are much more expensive is more common than here. I've been to northern Europe several times and in Germany, Switerland, Norway, etc when someone says I'll bring my rifle normally means they have just 1. The same with I have a pistol (where legal). There are those that have more than 1 but they are forced to jump through so many hoops to have them and the cost is so great that most do not.
Worth every penny. I grew up on single action Colts when Colt was COLT! When they had actual gunsmiths who were handfitting and tuning each gun and were truth craftsman. I see a very similar spirit in these Spohr revolvers. I'm not in the market for a revolver like this right now, but I definitely aspire to something this fine.
These guys are gun smiths who were into tuning other revolvers (mostly S&W) into the most perfect match guns. Then at some point they thought, we could make the whole gun ourselves and get even better results for probably less costs. And they did. It's also to do with the fact that S&W revolvers are outrageously expensive in Germany because S&W basically ignores us and every S&W revolver has to be imported in small batches by gun shops. A standard off-the-shelf 686 is 1,500€ here
@@maximilianmustermann5763 that and it was just getting silly to import fully built 686's at the high prices imports command only to then literally yeet just about everything but the frame out of the gun to replace it with superior locally made parts...
@@KJ-ho6sb oh yeah. I was lusting after one of their delayed action 1911s years ago, but figured if I ever ponied up 20k I would probably just buy a transferable MG.
He does have a "cheaper" model for $2,699. Considering what it is, I think that price is fair. And by the way the less expensive model also doesn't have mim parts and is hand made in Germany. It's not like with some other companies where they offer an "entry" model that's made in China or something (I'm looking at you STP!)
I have a 20-year old S&W 686-5 with a 20-year old trigger job and it's still perfect, too! I guess yours would be all forged and no mim parts, but my 686-5 is actually the first series with mim parts. But the trigger is still perfect! It's like: wall - bang. No creep, nothing. The double action is also still very smooth.
@@maximilianmustermann5763 I don't buy into the MIM inferiority argument. If somebody prefers forged steel, etc., that's fine, but perhaps they should avoid all Ruger handguns because everybody who is anybody knows they will self-destruct due to their investment cast frames. Ditto for plastic Glock frames and sheet metal SIG P220 slides. Yes, I'm being facetious. Enjoy your 686; it is a fine revolver. I recently purchased one to complement my early model 586. I don't care for the HH, nor am I a huge fan of stainless steel, but I'd rather take it out in inclement weather than any blued handgun. They all serve a useful purpose.
You'll love these, basically perfected 686's without the budgetary constraints holding it down made and assembled by guys who've been tuning and customizing S&W's for decades
@@danmarcell3167 I mean the S&W action is pretty much the best in many aspects the MR-73 is a modified S&W action and basically an improved M19 without the budget constraints these Spohr's are a modified S&W action and basically improved S&W 686's without the budget constraints S&W's are by far the most common revolvers to get tuned for competition of all forms (now sure, the price has something to do with that but it's not like similar priced rugers are anywhere near as commonly used for that) both the MR-73 and spohr's are significantly better than any wheelgun S&W has and will ever make because they're basically just improved S&W's that don't have to be built to an affordable price point. That being said, S&W's original triple lock (1st model hand ejector .44) and Registered Magnum (The OG pre model 27 .357 wheelgun) where very much the equivalent of the MR-73/spohr back then and they're still amazingly well built guns by todays standards ironically S&W's best guns were the PC semiauto's from the 90's and early 2000's (952, PPC9, 945 PC) back when the performance center was an actual thing instead of another piece of nigh meaningless branding
4k is very high, but id imagine import fees have an impact there. Trigger design is interesting. However be curious to see the other models reviewed on here. To be noted as having MIM parts or not. Id imagine its why revolvers made before MIM are valued.
I can respect that kind of work and understand the price point. That will be a hard sell in the US though not just because of the price but because of the culture around revolvers here.
Wow, very nice. Of course, the price is putting this out of the reach of most folks unless you are an absolute aficionado and don't mind spending some 401K money on a revolver lol. Thanks for the report!
@@danmarcell3167 yeaaah when he mentioned 3800 euros at the end, convert to USD it’s definitely for guys that collect premium revolvers. That are incredible looking guns though. I’m happy they exist, but it’s out of my price range.
@@WalterRitchey I'm with you brother they look good and you can see they're made well but German taxes are higher than the US so I'm kind of wondering how much of that price is taxes compared to work
I'm not exactly sure why, but all the club30 tuned revolvers usually come with polygonal barrels, too. I suspect it's because of their 9x19 cross-compatibility or something? I always though polygonal barrels were just a practical thing for duty pistols because they're easier to clean and stuff. But for some reason all the club30 gun smiths seem to think that polygonal barrels are actually better for high-precision bulls eye guns, too.
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Next time James and hop are in Germany they should attend one of these gunsmithing club meetings and show the gun culture over in Europe
He should also talk about the average income of European gun owners and the hoops they have to jump through to enjoy shooting.
@@PerfectTangenton his personal channel he interviewed an Austrian lawyer on the topic
"the gun culture in Europe" 🤣 it's like 30 dudes meeting in a dark alley because the word gun basically means Nazi in Europe
1000% agree
I'd love to see that, I'd also love to see how one of these compares to a Beretta MR73!
We need a three way fight between Korth, Manurhin, and Spohr for the title of best revolver, bar none.
MR73 is so pretty
After that video James made it’s hard not to say mr73
I’d watch that
freedom arms
Dont forget about Rossi😂😂
As a S&W armorer I can say , they have beefed up and fixed every issue I would have addressed in the L frame, I will own one of these . So gorgeous
Mr. "Bwana", Appreciate the skill and wisdom of an armorer, but wasn't the "L" Frame S&W supposed to address the "drawbacks" of the "K" Frame, which was never designed for a steady diet of High-Pressure .357 Mags! Respt. yrs., Blsgs, gg
Yes......the cutaway version of a working model. Truly the work of a machinist who knows what he's doing. Fantastic! Who doesn't like to watch how things work?
These are incredible works of art. Family heirloom type stuff.
Much like Nazi war trophies!
Much like nazi war trophies!
Guy's voice is a dead ringer for Dr. Strangelove.
No fighting in the war room!
@@gabethomas8123”I wish we had one of them doomsday machines.”
I guess Peter Sellers deserves more credit than I thought he did for nailing his German accent.
"Mein Fuhrer, I can walk!"
@@spencereagle1118 😂
Toolless cylinder swap and adjustable spring tension is incredible.
Not really a new feature (korth/manurhin did those decades ago) but certainly valuable and highly convenient
imo the doubly adjustable spring tension is more valuable than the toolless cylinder swap outside of a couple of use cases (like when using big ISSF target grips that prevent case ejection or preventing the cylinder screw from walking) since adjusting mainspring and rebound spring weight on a normal S&W requires you to dissamble the gun and replace the springs and change them out until you find a set up that works (but might not work for certain primers)
whereas the cylinder swap is still silly easy on a S&W style gun (like my MR-73) because you literally just unscrew ONE screw that isn't covered by anything
The new Diamondback has toolless cylinder removal, apples/oranges I know, but my point is there's no real reason why most revolvers can't have both those features, at a fraction of the cost.
I feel like 8 shot revolvers need to be more of a thing. I've fired the Smith 327 in 357 mag and the 8 shot cylinder was not oversized by any means.
Agreed! Those are excellent rigs.
44 mag revolvers were never all that big
Well, mr spohr here said they were going to show a large frame at IWA so they might just come out with an 8-shot too....
While I agree the 627 is a marvelous firearm, it’s noticeably larger then my python when carrying it. Can’t go wrong either way, just depends on if you plan to attempt concealment.
Absolutely
Happy to see the renewed interest in top quality revolvers. Manurhin, Korth, Spohr, quality is not out of style. Those Nill grips are probably worth their own episode.
THAT is a badass revolver.
It's looks more like a Swiss watch that goes "BANG!"
Absolutely beautiful.
Thanks for sharing!
Believe me, swiss and germans know all about bangs, particularly circa 1933-1945
@@YungQueef yeah, they're no strangers to it, for sure... not historically speaking anyway
I need that 3 inch black one with wood grips. it just looks perfect.
Fantastic! I’ll never own one because of the cost. But I can appreciate the craftsmanship and beauty. Congrats to anyone else who can drop that kind of 💰 for one of these.
They have a "cheaper" model, the L562 4" for $2,699. I know it's not cheap, but I think the price is fair for what it is and way more realistic for most people than 3,800. Still a lot of money, of course. But I think it's fair for what is is and how it's made.
put 25 bucks a week into a jar for 3 years.
It's interesting to see someone apply the same level of technology folks use to develop semiautomatics to new revolvers.
German engineering is definitely one of my personal favorites. From Guns to tools/gunsmith-tools.
German/germanic (austria/switzerland) engineering really is great, so long as you don't have penny pushers ruining it by cost cutting (fortunately missing here)
His english was really good and this enthusiasm really showed. Seemed like a fine craftsman. If they only had an 8 shot 6 inch version!
They look super quality. Great they are coming here.
Drop dead gorgeous revolvers. Would be a really nice investment and heirloom
Absolutely stunning! With the grips and side panels off you get to see the beauty on inside and outside.
You got that last bit wrong, James. Rolls Royce are the Spohr of the automobile world !
Spohr is not even that expensive though. They have an entry-level model (the L562) for $2,699 or 2,449€ (in Germany) which is fair for a gun of that quality. I was looking into the L562 and the only reason I didn't buy it is because I got an extremely good deal on a used S&W 686 with a perfect trigger job. And the damn thing shoots so good now I can't justify spending more money on a Spohr. But I certainly would've bought Spohr instead of a new 686, which is around 1,500€ in Germany (off the shelf with no tuning)
@@maximilianmustermann5763 The pricing is extremely fair in europe for sure
it's on par with performance center S&W's and colt's, neither of which can even compare in quality and servicing to the spohrs
Hey James,
Thanks a lot for the cool video!
I really like to show you our new products at the IWA show in Nürnberg. See you in four weeks. We are at hall 3c - booth 106!
See you soon - Thomas Spohr
Are the grip made by Karl Nill?
I was gonna say it looks like a pimped out smith until I saw the internal parts 😮
Those are beautiful revolvers!
They totally nailed the design. It's modern but also classic. Much better than Korth design in my opinion!
So very nice. Quality you can almost feel from a screen.
I loves the aesthetics… so many revolvers look so similar to others. This has such a unique almost steampunk esquié style like the Chiappa Rhino… the price unfortunately means I’ll never own one 😢
Beautiful guns. Thanks for the review.
It takes a guy from Germany to spell out that MIM trigger parts don't work. American Revolver makers have been saying for years MIM is just as good when it's not. To those who have experienced MIM part failures we know MIM is not suitable for duty use. He wasn't lying about 500 rounds before failure. I had one failure three separate times at around 350 to 500 round count. Same MIM part, same failure rate. Thanks Tomas Spohr for your words of wisdom and telling it like it is.
I’ve never actually thought I would want to buy a revolver, but these are so nice
These look super well-designed and made.
Say what you want about germans but when it comes to mechanical or mechanically inclined people engineering metallurgy they're unbeatable I don't really care for revolvers but they're awesome
You should see the sheer number of German chemical and pharmaceutical inventions too.
OOF
As a first gen American (75% German, 25% Austrian), I approve of this message. 😁
I just received my 286 competition last week . put an ultra dot lt on it ( old eyes ) the finest revolver i have ever owned. It puts my SW 686 to shame. Sighting it in at a small indoor range 20 yard max, it shot 1 inch group unsupported with cheep factory 38 sp ammo single action. Was shooting 3 inch groups in fast double action
Absolutely beautiful revolvers.
I'm not sure that I will ever buy a Korth, but I WILL own a Spohr and a Manhurin revolver someday.
One suggestion and one question: (1) offer a 7-shot .327 federal magnum/.32 S&W Long chambering and (2) are the external dimensions more like a K frame or an L Frame?
size wise?
Beefed up L frame with the forcing cone/barrel thickness of an N-frame (and also the weight of an N-frame)
if the demand is there they most likely could develop a 7 shot .357 or even .327 fedmag, not sure how big the cylinder's gotta be for an 8 shot .32 H&R mag
They are obviously high quality & an heirloom piece to hand on down
That music at the end of the video sounds like the beat to Busta Rhymes "Put your hands where my eyes could see"
100% Artisan. He and his brand define the word artisan.
Wow! James was so nice to him. He must've been impressed!
Lot of ignorance on display regarding MIM manufacturing. There are tons of firearm applications where it shines far and beyond that of traditional forging and machining. The issue with MIM is failure due to poor quality control and protocols. However, once dialed in, MIM produces a part with consistent hardness and grain structure throughout. With the proper application, you can end up with a SUPERIOR part.
MIM has its place and limitations as well.
Incredible workmanship on something few care much about.
Well, it's the same as how a $200k-plus Purdey doesn't really do anything that a £200 Turkish shotgun can't. High-end stuff has always been a market of its own.
Absolutely beautiful
Sweet craftsmanship. I’ll definitely be checking in to these. Thanks for showing us the finer side of things as well as the affordable.
Great interview and product.
I was 100% on board until the 3,800 euro price tag. Insanity. Now I'm only 99.9% on board.
absolutely beautiful craftsmanship here, Tomas! love the stainless steel revolvers personally
Korth are sweet looking revolver’s especially the Mongoose 🇩🇪
Beautiful revolver. Price is on par for what it is.
I'd like to check one of these out. And I'm not a super big revolver guy.
I'm a revolver collector but not a distinguished collector but I'm just as happy to look at these all though they'll never be in my collection.
Those revolvers are absolutely gorgeous!
Amazing. A true work of art and tooling and overall craftsmanship.
I mean even if the gun is 4.5K it's still better looking and likely better made than Korth while coming in cheaper for equivalent models. Really nice stuff, can't wait to see the large frames!
James making me go broke....10mm CMMG Banshee. Berretta 1301 Mod2, now this damn revolver I cant live without. Thanks bro. Will work for food. And guns.
awesome advanced features for a revolver, i hope they will be available in the Philippines
These revolvers make me feel strange downstairs.
I like the extend cylinder release like what Korth did. Really cool pistols
That is a sweet piece of art!
German craftsmanship is next level. They make incredibly complex watches and I’ve no doubt this revolver with all its balanced small parts and springs would be amazing. I own a Manhurin MR73 in .357/.38. I don’t see how you can improve on it but I haven’t handled one of these so who knows.
And if you run out of ammo, it makes an excellent melee weapon!
Call of duty flash back
These start at 2,799.00 3 & 4 inch .357 add PVD black coating, a 9mm cylinder and 5 moon clips for 1,600.00 $4399.00 PLUS TAX. Rich mans concealed/open carry SIX SHOT REVOLVER! 3-inch Colt Python NIB 1,499.00. Doesn't take a rocket scientist boys.
Omg those are so damn gorgeous. I have a weakness for wheel guns
Classic German over-engineering. I love it.
James, at the last IWA you said you had a review copy but we never saw you post anything about it to my knowledge? Will we see a TFB review of these fine wheelguns in the near future?
$4000 for an ordinary revolver is nuts but Spohr isn't ordinary.
With this money you can 5 Ruger revolvers or 10 Taurus, and they are excellent revolvers.
Beautiful looking revolvers! Love that quick removal of the cylinder. Did eveyone catch tha fact that they cant carry guns in Germany so the safety factor of the transfer bar on a revolver isn't important. Then comes the price of nearly $4000.00. This isnt going to be a big seller here in the USA. Like the Korth German revolvers it's well built and attractive but very few here will ever buy 1.
Because nobody ever drops a loaded gun at the range?
I hear what you’re saying, but at my club I see a lot of shooters that have 4k into multiple ARs and have become comfortable with that kind of spending. They’re burned out on polymer and looking for more legacy possessions. I think these will do well in the same market as Korth and Manhurin.
@@Abledoggie42 It may sell in Europe but I guaranty this isn't going to make a profit here in the US. In Europe having far less guns that are much more expensive is more common than here. I've been to northern Europe several times and in Germany, Switerland, Norway, etc when someone says I'll bring my rifle normally means they have just 1. The same with I have a pistol (where legal). There are those that have more than 1 but they are forced to jump through so many hoops to have them and the cost is so great that most do not.
Makes me gag that he says Rolls-Royce instead of Maybach to a German gun maker lol
Beautiful workmanship
You can carry in CZK REP...😉
I’d love to have one. Starting a go fund me. 😅
They are beautiful.
Worth every penny. I grew up on single action Colts when Colt was COLT! When they had actual gunsmiths who were handfitting and tuning each gun and were truth craftsman. I see a very similar spirit in these Spohr revolvers. I'm not in the market for a revolver like this right now, but I definitely aspire to something this fine.
These guys are gun smiths who were into tuning other revolvers (mostly S&W) into the most perfect match guns. Then at some point they thought, we could make the whole gun ourselves and get even better results for probably less costs. And they did.
It's also to do with the fact that S&W revolvers are outrageously expensive in Germany because S&W basically ignores us and every S&W revolver has to be imported in small batches by gun shops. A standard off-the-shelf 686 is 1,500€ here
@@maximilianmustermann5763 that and it was just getting silly to import fully built 686's at the high prices imports command only to then literally yeet just about everything but the frame out of the gun to replace it with superior locally made parts...
Compare this to the Manurhin
Beautiful wheel guns. I would fork over a couple thousand for one. But 4k? Sheesh. I guess if you have to ask....
just wait until you see the korth pricing
@@KJ-ho6sb oh yeah. I was lusting after one of their delayed action 1911s years ago, but figured if I ever ponied up 20k I would probably just buy a transferable MG.
He does have a "cheaper" model for $2,699. Considering what it is, I think that price is fair. And by the way the less expensive model also doesn't have mim parts and is hand made in Germany. It's not like with some other companies where they offer an "entry" model that's made in China or something (I'm looking at you STP!)
500 shots and you have to do the trigger job again? I guess all my 40 year old tuned S&W revolvers were done wrong because they're still going strong.
I have a 20-year old S&W 686-5 with a 20-year old trigger job and it's still perfect, too! I guess yours would be all forged and no mim parts, but my 686-5 is actually the first series with mim parts. But the trigger is still perfect! It's like: wall - bang. No creep, nothing. The double action is also still very smooth.
@@maximilianmustermann5763 I don't buy into the MIM inferiority argument. If somebody prefers forged steel, etc., that's fine, but perhaps they should avoid all Ruger handguns because everybody who is anybody knows they will self-destruct due to their investment cast frames. Ditto for plastic Glock frames and sheet metal SIG P220 slides. Yes, I'm being facetious. Enjoy your 686; it is a fine revolver. I recently purchased one to complement my early model 586. I don't care for the HH, nor am I a huge fan of stainless steel, but I'd rather take it out in inclement weather than any blued handgun. They all serve a useful purpose.
My 686 no dash is still slinging em ...no problems
@@danmarcell3167
The MiM trigger parts were introduced in 91 ( 686-4) . I have an 88 686 which is not MiM
It's called a 'club'...because only a few people can afford one of these, entering you into the exclusive Spohr club!
I can’t help but compare the tech to the Astra revolvers from Spain. The refinements and quality on these are exquisite!
Todos los revolvers Alemanes están hermosos, y todos son muy buenos para tiro deportivo, defensa y cacería..!! Excelente video..!!
Just so well made , an object to behold , curious how gun laws work in German Swiss, Brit, Aus. Etc.
I love Revolvers. Big S&W fan.
These Spohr Revolvers look excellent.
When he had the action open and showing the internal parts you can see a lot of S&W inside it
You'll love these, basically perfected 686's without the budgetary constraints holding it down made and assembled by guys who've been tuning and customizing S&W's for decades
@@RobinVerhulstZ Jerry Miculek proved S&W does a much better job...
@@danmarcell3167 I mean the S&W action is pretty much the best in many aspects
the MR-73 is a modified S&W action and basically an improved M19 without the budget constraints
these Spohr's are a modified S&W action and basically improved S&W 686's without the budget constraints
S&W's are by far the most common revolvers to get tuned for competition of all forms (now sure, the price has something to do with that but it's not like similar priced rugers are anywhere near as commonly used for that)
both the MR-73 and spohr's are significantly better than any wheelgun S&W has and will ever make because they're basically just improved S&W's that don't have to be built to an affordable price point. That being said, S&W's original triple lock (1st model hand ejector .44) and Registered Magnum (The OG pre model 27 .357 wheelgun) where very much the equivalent of the MR-73/spohr back then and they're still amazingly well built guns by todays standards
ironically S&W's best guns were the PC semiauto's from the 90's and early 2000's (952, PPC9, 945 PC) back when the performance center was an actual thing instead of another piece of nigh meaningless branding
@@danmarcell3167for the cost of a SW they better do it better... Good grief
4k is very high, but id imagine import fees have an impact there. Trigger design is interesting. However be curious to see the other models reviewed on here. To be noted as having MIM parts or not. Id imagine its why revolvers made before MIM are valued.
Germany has higher tax rates so you're paying that too
Manurhin MR73?
Cool stuff ain’t cheap.
I can respect that kind of work and understand the price point. That will be a hard sell in the US though not just because of the price but because of the culture around revolvers here.
“It’s not a project” 🤣
As a revolver guy, I might get some of these.
That 3" is beautiful!
Part of a EDC thats for sure
Wow, very nice. Of course, the price is putting this out of the reach of most folks unless you are an absolute aficionado and don't mind spending some 401K money on a revolver lol. Thanks for the report!
This is insanely cool. I wonder if they will also bring carry revolvers to the US to compete with the J frame.
These will cost more than the Performance Center models of the J Frame and I'll stick with those
@@danmarcell3167 yeaaah when he mentioned 3800 euros at the end, convert to USD it’s definitely for guys that collect premium revolvers. That are incredible looking guns though. I’m happy they exist, but it’s out of my price range.
@@WalterRitchey I'm with you brother they look good and you can see they're made well but German taxes are higher than the US so I'm kind of wondering how much of that price is taxes compared to work
How do I get in line?
Look great. I won’t be spending over $4k on one tho.
He didn't mention his entry model, the L562. It says $2,699 on the US website. It looks fantastic, too.
This is a beauty
James, please review this revolver on the main channel maybe go through a course I wanna know all about that gun
Gorgeous beasts
Can anyone tell me if the 2011’s on the lower shelf in the video is also made by Spohr??? I would be interested in owning one of each.
I never thought a gun was worth $3K. Now I do.
Absolutely beautiful revolvers but I can't even afford to watch this video.
So it has polygonal rifling. Are hardcast lead rounds safe to fire? If not that's probably the biggest letdown I've heard in a long time.
I'm not exactly sure why, but all the club30 tuned revolvers usually come with polygonal barrels, too. I suspect it's because of their 9x19 cross-compatibility or something?
I always though polygonal barrels were just a practical thing for duty pistols because they're easier to clean and stuff. But for some reason all the club30 gun smiths seem to think that polygonal barrels are actually better for high-precision bulls eye guns, too.
@@maximilianmustermann5763yes it’s a German thing. It all started with Peter stahl pistols back in the 80ies
Damn- I’ve never been wanting a revolver till now 😍
I've never wanted a revolver. Hell, even if I did want one, in the UK I'm never going to get one -- but by God I lust after one of these guns.
2:58 in green on right side looks a lot like Karl Brügger, owner of B&T
Any chance these will get on the CA roster?