BYD Han 1000 km challenge
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Thank you for your honesty Bjørn. And thank you for keep doing these 1000 km challenges. I know it must be exhausting. But I find these to be the most valuable of all your reviews. So please don’t stop these. 😅 The arctic trips and Sunday drives look great, and I love to see them also, but they don’t add the same value for a potential buyer as the 1.000 km challenge. So perhaps consider cutting these instead of 1000 km. 🙏🏻 Cheers from Copenhagen.
Repetitive or not, I really like the 1000 km challenges. As you say, it's the real test if software and hardware are up to trans-european trips. Really relevant for people in The Netherlands that like to travel 1000-1500km single trip with their cars.
Just did it last Friday. Drove from the Netherlands to Italy with my Model 3 SR+ (1220 km one way). Would not have done it with a lot of other cars that Bjorn has tested in this price range. The 1000 km challenge really helped solidify that Tesla is the best choice in their class.
@@nielsvandenkieboom5034 , Nice car for the job. Really low consumption and fast charging does the job. I have a 2019 M3 LR DM. In two weeks we will drive to France and Spain with our folding trailer attached. As we do in The Netherlands 🙂. Even that is really easy if cars charge fast. Even with 295wh/km reference consumption at 110 km/h. Still perfectly doable.
@@ronaldjanssen105 Exactly! And it’s not like I held back on the Autobahn. Of course I also had to test out top speed and even then consumption was only 220 Wh/km on average. Mine is a 2021 with the heatpump so maybe that helped with cooling everything so I didn’t rapidgate either.
@@nielsvandenkieboom5034 I drive once a month back and forth to Vienna (1200KM) with a cupra Born. Doable but not ideal due to "slow charging", No awaiting the KIA EV6 GT , then I can shave off 120 Minutes thanks to ultra fast charging
That reaction speed on the display unit is about ten times faster than on my VW id3!
cause its an android tablet its running straightup android
@xoc The Chinese just didn't have to reinvent the wheel like VW :)
That's maybe why VW fired their whole software department.
I watch all of your videos Bjørn, and the videos i appreciate the most is the 1000 km challenge. That is because it shows the true nature and capabilities of a car. It is the ultimate test if a car is crap or not.
CONGRATULATION to 300.000 Subs!!! Keep on the excellent work! Greeting from Germany
“This car is very good at Han-shaking” 😂
Congratulations to the 300k subscribers. You deserve many more.
Indeed
Horsepowerhour is the best hour.
We need an Atto 3 1000km challenge!
The 1000km challenges are my favourite videos. I know they must take a toll on you Bjorn, but know they are really appreciated.
I think Han is on an older platform. I wonder how BYD Seal compares
I love 1000km challenge, thats my favourite episodes :)
I'm very into technology and the 1000 km challenge is our favorite type of video and then the interiors! We love that too! :D
Looking forward for the Artic Circle trip wintertime with Byd Tang 😅
The digging holes look like perfect fit for teslas fabric built charger delivered on the concrete plate. Just digg and drop down in the hole...saw it at best in tesla
Great video Bjorn as usual. I don't know if you can pull this off but one thing I know is important to some drivers is the ability to tow a trailer and go short distances with it. A small U-Haul trailer or a pop-up camper type thing. It would be good to know what that does to the range on these EV's. Just a suggestion. Anyway, thanks for what you do on this channel. All the best.
~$40k in China but €72k in Norway... WTF
72k in whole europe basically, i dont know who is going to drop that much on this
Taxes called V.A.T and also the price of shipping and the service center
Prices in China are also usually already with subsidies deducted. And most non-china models are completely different, because of regulations (safety).
"ABC, avoid buying chinese." That's cold. lol.
Cold? It was a warm tip. Lol
Best ABC ever “Avoid Bying Chinese” 😂😂😂
Avoid BYD Charging
So true 😂
Tesla for the win!
@@manfredo4287😂 right😂
Nio is the best🎉
Cool new haircut 👍🏻
Not an encouraging sign for high delta in the battery temperature management. This could lead to early battery failure.
See how these charge in an Australian summer 🤣🤣🤣
Atto 3 has been around in Australia for quite a while.
Can't wait till you get your hands on a Tesla Model Y with the BYD Blade battery to see if it "rapidgates" too!!!
If it rapid gates there I would hate to see how it would cope here in Australia
In Thailand it is usually 40-45°C in summer.
@@bjornnyland 35-40 is hot enough for me, but since 45 is about the temp it was throttling it wouldn't work that well in Thailand.
00:45 The seats can not fold is a KO criteria.
Never heard of this "overheat" in China.
Does this mean LFP batteries are more prone to rapid gate?
BYD has some work to do.
Just bring up the temperature threshold that is all. One parameter change in a sofware update. Simple
It‘s 2023 and one of the biggest EV manufacuturers manage to build a car, that rapid gates because of a too hot battery 🙈🥸
Makes me wonder if it's not only due to obviously inferior bms tech vs say tesla. But also that they cut corners on the cooling system because lfp is so allegedly superior in regards to thermal runaway? Then you look at tesla catl&byd lfp pack charging, no comparison really. 🤔
Maybe the Han was made by interns and not the real engineers 😆
Can't imagine, that BYD is not able to build a better system. They know their tech for years 🤷♂
Hi, what is the app you were using to show all those technical information? Thx
I think I mentioned Car Scanner in the video?
@@bjornnyland Thanks, actually, I'm a 2022 BYD Han AWD owner from China, I kept experiencing this output power limit issue driving on the highway during summertime, I had no idea what was wrong with it until I watched this video, looks like they really need to improve the cooling system for the battery, hopefully, they can make that happen in the next gen. By the way, have you experienced the same issue on the other EVs? like model 3 and y, or other Chinese EVs?
Please test the ,,new" Model 3 LR RWD that is now available again and a first with the new battery and RWD.
That should really be a top scorer
How hard is it to make a fast charging car that do not rapidgate or coldgate?
Makes me wonder how Tesla can achieve those great speeds with the BYD blade battery.
You really need to get your hands on a MIG MY RWD and take it on a longer trip with multiple charging breaks.
First class thermal management, that's how.
@@RobertPuklin I agree but how much of the TM happens in the battery itself? How the cooling can reach the cells.
You can have the best CPU cooler in town but If CPU itself has no paste under the heatspreadder it’s all for nothing.
@@RobertPuklin Yep! Thermal management and the overheating discussions came up again recently when Ford, GM and other automakers announced they will join the Tesla Supercharger network. Tesla's thermal management during charging, operation, and it's HVAC is heads and shoulders above the rest (see @WeberAuto and @MunroLive vids on supermanifold/heat pump - AI assisted tech/creation!). Thermal management in all these areas is critical to succeed in the BEV segment (and be safe!). Elon has offered to share tech in this area with legacy auto makers, as it is not as easy to implement as some think (also as we see here in this @bjornnyland vid).
Because byd provides lifetime warranty for its battery in China,the charging speed of its car is conservative
Alien technology 😉
What means: "social score" and what does it have to do with charging?
300K!
Привет. Фары работают как на мерседесе multi beam ?
Keep seeing a camo EV driving around the port area of Bangkok. Chunky looking sedan body, not sure which upcoming car it is tho
🙌I like the BYD style. It’s modern and simple. Me gusta mucho
So no 1000km challenge tonight ? 😔
Unfortunately not. We're on a family trip to Kristiansand with EQS SUV 450 4Matic.
would be interesting to compare with blade battery in Model Y, i hope you get a chance to do 1000 km with it
agree. How much difference does it make with same battery but different control system
So many new cars barely doing any better than a Kia Niro. 👀 Long way to go...
Niro is 25 minutes slower which is actually quite a lot. Most EVs today can charge at 120-150 kW but Niro can only peak at only 80 kW. That's not gonna cut it in 2023.
@@bjornnyland I mean all cars are dated since GAC released Aion V plus this month 10-80% in 8 mintes.
@@agemmm is that the same one they demonstrated back in summer 2021 on a 480kw charger?
@@4literv6 ye
When are you going to test Dacia Spring?
Bjørn always answers that with: „After it’s available in Norway”
I want to go to Speckerod, Speckerod, Speckerod! It's on my bucket list!
Driving from Gothenburg airport to stromstad next week..
When does it hit (around) 800v? Noticed only 500~589 volt
It doesn't.
7:57 New energy in Chinese is 新能源, that is meaning of EV from my understanding 😊
Lost in translation?
@@bjornnyland From some Chinese website they believe EVs are also known as new energy vehicles because they primarily rely on new energy sources rather than traditional fossil fuels. Conventional cars rely on internal combustion engines fueled by petroleum, while electric vehicles use electric motors powered by battery-stored energy. Electric vehicles can be charged by plugging them in or by utilizing regenerative braking, among other methods, and charging can utilize electricity from renewable sources such as solar or wind power. Due to their use of new energy as a power source, electric vehicles are commonly categorized as new energy vehicles, representing a more environmentally friendly and sustainable transportation option.
Han shake! 🤣
which app do you use on the smartphone to access live car data?
Car Scanner
BYD 。。👍👍
15:55 I am happy for you, I can fall asleep just as fine, but I bet some people will be upset.
Ten degrees difference between the battery cells looks not good for battery reliability and durability.
That's nothing. Kia and Hyundai has 12 degrees delta. Toyota bZ4X has 18 degrees delta.
22:34 ❤
thermal runaway if doesn’t rapid gate
The reaaon of fogging problems with EVs are quite clear.
Fossil car's AC used to 'overcooling' and then heating up again to make SLIGHTLY COOL AIR.
This way once the air hits about 4C°, they dissipate most of their humidity.
On EVs?
They have to save energy, so if they need little cooling, they just slightly chill down the air.
That's why the coming-out air from vents are so foggy.
No, that's not how it works.
Why is average energy unknow? The graph on screen should indicate something
It shows for the past 50 km only.
Do you know how many Teslas caught fire
Byd is nice car..
BYD needs to do a Hyundai and set up a European R&D centre, if they’ve not done so already.
Reason? European know shit about designing a electric power train and drivers interfacing system for smart viechle. VW just close their European shop and out source their EV sofware over to their Chinese division.
It seems that Chinese cars are very conservative when it comes to charging speeds and battery temperatures. Hopefully they last longer than other cars
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Some of the Chinese cars look quite nice but there is something about the attention to detail that makes me wonder where else they cut corners in a more hidden way(BMS, Safety features, etc.).
Then most of those companies are quite financially unstable and you never know if the relationship with China will sour further.
The only reason I would see buying a Nio or BYD over Tesla would be a significantly better price but they don’t even offer that(comparable models). And the cheap new Tesla will be a great addition.
MY is unbeatable at the moment but doesn’t fit on my hydraulic garage thing. So waiting for the updated M3 to replace my current M3.
It doesn't make sense that you believe Chinese companies are cutting corners meanwhile the tesla you trust has 95% of components made by Chinese suppliers and notorious for poor quality in the world best ev market.
@@leiyue1411 I disagree. Yes, there is lots of great quality stuff produced in China but most of those things(except maybe DJI and some others) are still designed out of China and subject to quality control processes/standards of global players.
It’s those little things like software(chargingspeed shown in hp, annoying warning sounds, lackluster menus and translations) as well as hardware things(like rusting bolts on new cars) that absolutely push me away as a consumer. Now the Han even rapidgates in 2023.
One way to still be competitive would be a much better price but here they also don’t deliver yet in Europe.
If I get a Tesla, Korean or EU car with comparable specs for the same or better price, I’d personally never chose a BYD, Nio or XPENG. The last two might not even be around in a year or two.
And re Tesla quality. I drove Ford, BMW and Mercedes cars for twenty years and I’m happy with my Tesla. Same are friends who own one. Even my 70+ year old dad likes to drive it so much that he’ll pick up his MY RWD this Thursday. The quality is absolutely sufficient.
Must be a Tesla, made in the Shanghai factory, if it had no problems
@@taiwanstillisntacountry Yep, good cars coming out of Giga Shanghai!
Grünheide a very close 2nd in quality but have some other advantages like less hard plastic and better suspension.
Taiwan is a country! 😉
Do you poor guy knows where all the parts of eu built cars come from?
Glory to the British-Raj.
18:20 😀
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I guess they should change their name to "CYD" - Crush Your Dreams
What happened to Burn Your Dreams?
He news han "
Hei Bjørn. Jeg lurer på en ting. Jeg ladet en polestar 2 på tesla supersjarmerende på Ullevål. Jeg sto der i cirka 10 min og fikk ladet opp 11kwh. Og ble trukket 45 kr cirka. Senere ser jeg at tesla supersjarmerende har trukket 100kr. Vet du noe om hva som hende til at det ble til 100kr
Bjorn is not Tesla support. Want Tesla support, contact Tesla support. ❤
Why don't they put active cooling onto the battery? Makes no sense to me... It's almost as if Han Solo built this car... :p
It has active cooling. It pulls 5 kW for AC.
Truly a game-changer in the world of electric vehicles. 🔋⚡
Horsepower hour per 100 km 😂😂😂
Hp*h / 100 Km 😂😂
@bjorn did you see the graveyard of cars in China from byd because of the subsidies?
byd不仅成坟场还要破产了🤣
How bankrupt ? (Not everyone reads Chinese)🫤
🤔22:09 are you carefully referring to 🔋-🔥s happening in Chaina, which south-african chap 'serpentza' shows on his channel? 🤔
No
Hello guys. I have a Han that i drove 24500Km already and i have a lot of problems. Big one is the AC sometimes is not working once the car is overheating and once you have up to 30C. Another problem is on raining, the car is not so safe anymore; i have only 1GB data into the car which is goes to 0 after few days using Spotify; after that on the gps you don't see anymore fast chargers on the GPS....really crap; the car return to BYD Belgium already 2 times without fixing much things. If someone have some troubles like me please tell me. Much appreciate your help and Bjorn work also!!!!
What do you mean when you say that car isn’t safe during the rain ? I was thinking of getting the Seal but I start to reconsider it.
Hey, please tell us more. 😊
On the rain is not keeping the road so good. I have also an AC problem in the summer while is stay or drive in sun the ac is stopping working. I had to stop the engine and start again.
I'll spend more money for food waiting for Chinese EV charging 😂
BYD was the leader in China before the pandemic, 2018 2019ish when they refreshed Tang and introduced Han. Then they stopped innovating and letting people pay for the Chinese patriotism. Now what left is only made in China. I’ve test driven Yangwang U8 already… don’t think it’s any better than model x in that price range
U8 vs model Y. They don't even deserve to be compared. Totally different kind of vehicles. Grow up.
@@jameel3031 he said model x not y. Also isnt the u8 a hybrid anyway?
@@4literv6 sry but. Whatever. Tesla cannot be compared with U8. he is just a Tesla fan ,though I appreciate his choice but don't need to criticize something for being Chinese. When all over the world using billions of devices made in china. Car industry here improved immensely over last few years.
Yes I guess its both versions a hybrid and pure ev too.
@@jameel3031 try looking in the mirror you are doing the exact same thing from my perspective anyway.
Let your model x test in water. and 360 turn.
Charging performance kinda low ... 👎
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Hmm, that hot battery is worry-some. This would be an explanation for exploding BYD cars/batteries in China.
This is the fake news that the lithium iron phosphate used by BYD blade batteries is the safest in the world
Don't bye
Bye bye
Why dont you use voiceover Ai, so you shoot one Video and overlay it with your thai voice, so you Safe time and dont have to shoot Eversthing twice?
Because it's not the same.
These Chinese EVs will literally burn in southern Europe, with an average of 30C-42C during summer months.
I think it gets pretty hot in China as well. Have not seen any polar bears in Honk Kong.
@@philipperapaccioli2868 Southern Europe has a dry hot salty atmosphere during the summer months. With ~300 sunny days in of the year. Total different climate in comparison to humit climate in East Asia.
Ooh yeah in the middle east it goes 45c to 53c in summer tesla survived but dont know about this byd
garbage in garbage out 😀
12:50 looks an Australian outback or an african landscape
Nice pretty car., but.... Byd go home 😂
BYD has massive problems with burning batteries in China. It looks like the vehicles weren't carefully designed to be rushed to market.
No they don't. BYD has a massive problem with serpentza captain apartheid and a few other anti Chinese ytubers using BYD to make his always false fabricated racist anti Chinese content for his western audience which crave it even though hes videos always ends up being pure garbage not corresponding to reality.
'massive problem' care to quantify that?
@@ensteffo 🤡🤡🤡
They have with hybrid model getting recalled, they still have less accidental fire than tesla,
This is a kind of fake news that smears the fact that BYD lithium iron phosphate blade batteries are the safest batteries in the world
That you have it boys and girls, the Tesla killa...
Yup except as with all the other so called competition to tesla? It should be worded as just another one that tesla killed. 😀
BYD Han is the car that has been burning with flames in China.
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Just use AI to translate the video in Thai. Use your time for the analyses.
Nope. Bad idea.
I'm not sure I would want my family or myself in a BYD after the huge amount of reports of battery fires in China, airbags not deploying in crashes and bad construction.
Seriously, I would not buy BYD after what I have seen.
On the banana box test,when he opened the hood the charger mounting bolts are rusted already
@@s.kxx1956 There's a reason Warren Buffett is selling tonnes of BYD shares, he's not a stupid man, when the real coverage of BYD fires cause havoc in the West the company will be worthless.
Shares have dropped 12% in BYD as a result.
We should wait for our friend Sandy Munro &c. to tear it down and look under the hood.
Its not a huge amount of reports. Its a huge amount of propaganda from a ytuber serpentza captain apartheid which makes his living making up false click bate to get western anti Chinese nationalists to click on his videos even though they are fabrications.
我在中国没看到你说的不良报到 ，如果真的有 byd也不会月销21万辆 ！
Keep in mind though that for this test it was very warm outside and this BYD model is a very cheap model
No it wasn't. Most driving was done around 20-25 C. That's optimal for lots of reasons. Also, it was a bit wet at times, which should also help with cooling.
It's just last generation charging experience. Optimus before the nerf would have spanked the living dreams out of this car with charging. And that was a long ass time ago.
15-24 celsius is as far from "very warm", than 72000 € from very cheap. Or was this sarcasm? I never know nowdays...
I should add /s 🌚
@@deurkl you got me there 😂
Build your dictionary lol
Warm tip!
Everyone should do their OWN research about BYD catching FIRE
Another Chinese car with weird infotainment, no folding rear seats…, slow charging… 🥱🥱🥱🥱