I'm over a year late to the party, but wanted to say thanks for the shout out at 25:25! I definitely encourage every Homelab-enthusiast to consider building their own DIY NAS. If you have unused parts laying around, that's the best way to go! But you also can't go wrong by building one on your own. You almost always will get more value out of DIY solution!
Great series, I played with FreeNAS originally on an old Althlon dual core I had sitting around. Didn't go well at first, but as soon as I swapped out the USB stick for an SSD (for the OS install), it was incredibly sturdy. Now I'm running it (now TrueNAS) on a old Xeon E5-1650v4, very happy.
I have used OMV for years, I like it. My HP Microserver did (does) not have enough juicy for good performance on TrueNAS Core, so I now use OMV until I beef up my NAS.
For a home NAS, it doesn't get any better than Unraid. The ability to pretty much use any combination of drive sizes and to be able to add drives over time is PRICELESS. The Docker integration makes everything very easy as well. For true data protection, ZFS (TrueNAS) is seriously God tier but you can't beat Unraid for home use.
I completely agree...with one caveat. They really need to get snapshots into unRAID. The lack of snapshots is the only reason I also have a ReadyNAS as a backup NAS is because it has the ability to use snapshots.
@@jlficken that's fair. I'm not sure a ton of home users are concerned with that though. I mean, they probably SHOULD be, but that's a different discussion. I've used Synology, Free/TrueNAS, plain ole Windows sharing and so many others but Unraid wins every time (for me).
@@arubial1229 I agree that most home users probably aren't even concerned about backups much less revision history. They've save my bacon at home and at work more than once over the years. The Recycle Bin app on unRAID does help close the gap as least as far as accidental deletes go. I tried FreeNAS a couple years ago but didn't care for it.
New fan here. Huge fan now? LOL. Been in IT for almost 20 years, but never had my own lab (was lucky to run enterprise grade stuff at the office and been able to learn from production environments). I do want to build my own lab now. Can't wait to build it out.
I use StableBit's Drive Pool on an Intel desktop. It runs on Win10 in the background. Last month I lost a drive, Drive Pool notified me and automatically removed the drive from the pool. The new drive got here last week and I will add it to the pool in a couple of days. Drive pool will take the new drive and balance the load among drives and life will go on. No data loss, no drama, and no down time.
Just a quick FYI .. I started listening to this as a playlist, and noticed they are listed in reverse order. Instead of beginning with the first episode, it begins with the latest one.
7:27 I've heard it called B.T.R.F.S. , Butterfs, Betterfs, Bee Yet fs... As long as you put the right amount of syllables in, it's going to get the point across. (Basically it's the Benedict Cumberbatch of file systems...)
I think you can have fun with homelabbing when you are not starting your career in IT or are older.... just saying... or homelabbing all through your life... it's like a habbit, hobby you can't shake... or way of life... tweaking away
Can Tom, Jay or anyone else in the the community answer a question for me? I have an LSI 9207-8i and an LSI 9211-4i. Both product pages say that they can control up to 256 devices. However, the LSI 9207-8i has two SFF-8087 connectors. Does this card still only control 256 devices or can it control 512? I doubt I'll ever get that many HDDs, but you never know lol.
The thing with software activation is: It gives me the feeling that I don't own the product. It is not mine. And with all this cloud or online users build in, I also get the feeling that not only the OS / device is not mine, but also my data is no longer mine.
Any thoughts on Microsoft's Storage Spaces and Resilient File System (ReFS)? I am surprised you didn't mention as they provide resiliency, redundancy, and bit-rot protection as well as many other metadata features.
Hey Guys, I know this video is old, however I have 2 (8 node Bramble cases) with 1 as an 8 node (Docker Swarm) and I have one that is a (Kubernetes Cluster with 2 masters and 6 workers).
Listening to this I got convinced I should get a Synology. Later I got convinced I should build a FreeNas box myself. For me: Synology: + power consumption + easy to start + expansion + one box / btrfs (good for backups if btrfs send is accessible) - some features require licens FreeNas: + in control (unlike ubiquity) + snapshotting sounds better on zfs. + can choose my own hardware. / maybe able to use a tape drive for backups?
Cult is a movement with followers obeying blindly its dogmas especially when they are not reasonable. If they do make sense and are backed up by reason then it's methodology.
I Love FreeNas I Ran It For Years & Zfs File System Is A Tank I Have Ran FreNas For Years Now But I Also Like & Run A Couple of UnRaid Servers as well (Very Easy Gpu Pass Through) With SSD Casheing Drives & 10 Gb But ZFS Is WAY Way Faster Even With 10Gb as a Mater of Fact 1Gb FreNas Is About Faster Than UnRaid With 10Gb ..Almost !
I'm over a year late to the party, but wanted to say thanks for the shout out at 25:25! I definitely encourage every Homelab-enthusiast to consider building their own DIY NAS. If you have unused parts laying around, that's the best way to go! But you also can't go wrong by building one on your own. You almost always will get more value out of DIY solution!
Great series, I played with FreeNAS originally on an old Althlon dual core I had sitting around. Didn't go well at first, but as soon as I swapped out the USB stick for an SSD (for the OS install), it was incredibly sturdy. Now I'm running it (now TrueNAS) on a old Xeon E5-1650v4, very happy.
I have used OMV for years, I like it. My HP Microserver did (does) not have enough juicy for good performance on TrueNAS Core, so I now use OMV until I beef up my NAS.
For a home NAS, it doesn't get any better than Unraid. The ability to pretty much use any combination of drive sizes and to be able to add drives over time is PRICELESS. The Docker integration makes everything very easy as well. For true data protection, ZFS (TrueNAS) is seriously God tier but you can't beat Unraid for home use.
I completely agree...with one caveat. They really need to get snapshots into unRAID. The lack of snapshots is the only reason I also have a ReadyNAS as a backup NAS is because it has the ability to use snapshots.
@@jlficken that's fair. I'm not sure a ton of home users are concerned with that though. I mean, they probably SHOULD be, but that's a different discussion. I've used Synology, Free/TrueNAS, plain ole Windows sharing and so many others but Unraid wins every time (for me).
@@arubial1229 I agree that most home users probably aren't even concerned about backups much less revision history.
They've save my bacon at home and at work more than once over the years.
The Recycle Bin app on unRAID does help close the gap as least as far as accidental deletes go.
I tried FreeNAS a couple years ago but didn't care for it.
know where to start a new soft and I didn't know how to switch from soft to . You are the best THANK YOU FOR NOT
Tom, FYI, at least in parts of Canada we say "zed" also :)
New fan here. Huge fan now? LOL. Been in IT for almost 20 years, but never had my own lab (was lucky to run enterprise grade stuff at the office and been able to learn from production environments). I do want to build my own lab now. Can't wait to build it out.
I love the show but please make jay louder or lower your volume, and tell jay to buy a better mic like yours ;)
I use StableBit's Drive Pool on an Intel desktop. It runs on Win10 in the background. Last month I lost a drive, Drive Pool notified me and automatically removed the drive from the pool. The new drive got here last week and I will add it to the pool in a couple of days. Drive pool will take the new drive and balance the load among drives and life will go on. No data loss, no drama, and no down time.
Just a quick FYI .. I started listening to this as a playlist, and noticed they are listed in reverse order. Instead of beginning with the first episode, it begins with the latest one.
Loving this Series! Thanks to you Both.
BTRFS stands for B-TRee Filesystem Butter FS is something that came out later.
7:27 I've heard it called B.T.R.F.S. , Butterfs, Betterfs, Bee Yet fs... As long as you put the right amount of syllables in, it's going to get the point across. (Basically it's the Benedict Cumberbatch of file systems...)
Really appreciate the video .I would like further demonstration on how to use actual tutorial in soft to make soft .
I think you can have fun with homelabbing when you are not starting your career in IT or are older.... just saying... or homelabbing all through your life... it's like a habbit, hobby you can't shake... or way of life... tweaking away
Awesome show. I would appreciate more Synology talk.
Awesome show!
You probably need to record audio tracks on both ends and mix them to get a decent podcast quality.
Can Tom, Jay or anyone else in the the community answer a question for me? I have an LSI 9207-8i and an LSI 9211-4i. Both product pages say that they can control up to 256 devices. However, the LSI 9207-8i has two SFF-8087 connectors. Does this card still only control 256 devices or can it control 512? I doubt I'll ever get that many HDDs, but you never know lol.
The thing with software activation is: It gives me the feeling that I don't own the product. It is not mine. And with all this cloud or online users build in, I also get the feeling that not only the OS / device is not mine, but also my data is no longer mine.
Any thoughts on Microsoft's Storage Spaces and Resilient File System (ReFS)? I am surprised you didn't mention as they provide resiliency, redundancy, and bit-rot protection as well as many other metadata features.
It's a close source less tested solution and would require dealing with an update system that breaks things randomly.
Fair enough. The cult is strong.
Hey Guys, I know this video is old, however I have 2 (8 node Bramble cases) with 1 as an 8 node (Docker Swarm) and I have one that is a (Kubernetes Cluster with 2 masters and 6 workers).
Nice
All hail cult leader Tom ... just kidding, I use ZFS and it does exactly what I need it to do therefore I must also be in a cult :)
Listening to this I got convinced I should get a Synology. Later I got convinced I should build a FreeNas box myself.
For me:
Synology:
+ power consumption
+ easy to start
+ expansion
+ one box
/ btrfs (good for backups if btrfs send is accessible)
- some features require licens
FreeNas:
+ in control (unlike ubiquity)
+ snapshotting sounds better on zfs.
+ can choose my own hardware.
/ maybe able to use a tape drive for backups?
I´d also call it b-tree-fs .. since it is a bi tree file system ;)
I guess I'm in the cult too. 3x TrueNas Core Machines.
Please keepmotnon TH-cam as well :)
Cult is a movement with followers obeying blindly its dogmas especially when they are not reasonable. If they do make sense and are backed up by reason then it's methodology.
Omg.. I missed the live
I Love FreeNas I Ran It For Years & Zfs File System Is A Tank I Have Ran FreNas For Years Now But I Also Like & Run A Couple of UnRaid Servers as well (Very Easy Gpu Pass Through) With SSD Casheing Drives & 10 Gb But ZFS Is WAY Way Faster Even With 10Gb as a Mater of Fact 1Gb FreNas Is About Faster Than UnRaid With 10Gb ..Almost !
Synology = qnap = readynas... nothing uniquely different between these.
jesus can't you edit this down or at least annotate instead of just podcasting??