I like using VMs, despite that I'm retired since 12 years after working 41 years in ICT. I use Virtualbox, because I run everything on my desktop. It saves money and the 3D acceleration is mostly working. I like to collect in a VM. the OSes I used in my past, so I have all Windows releases from 1987 (1.04) till 2023 (11 Pro) and all Ubuntu LTS Releases from 6.06 LTS to 22.04 LTS; the first 4.10 release and my first 5.04 release. I also have MS-DOS; DR-DOS; OS/2 Warp, FreeBSD 13.2 and around 40 Linux distros mostly flavors or derivaties of Ubuntu, but also Fedora 33 & 38; Manjaro; Debian 11.6 & 12; OpenSUSE 12.1; 15.4 & 15.5; Peppermint 3; 7; 9 & 10 and gOS 3.1.
Great show guys. I'm glad you mentioned how preferring one solution doesn't mean you hate the alternative. I think politicians and news media constantly pit one side against another when that is not the way the world works . The tech business especially shows that your best use case depends on your environment, your knowledge, your budget, etc. I appreciate you both acknowledging that. Thanks for your work .
I just love Proxmox and the backup cababilities provided by the Proxmox backup server. Even, if not everything runs smoothly in containers, with some configurations, even nested docker in lxc is easily possible
HP released an update for iLO4 which contains a HTML5 console. The advantage to the HP iLO over Dell is that there is only 1 model and the features are locked behind a generic license key. So no matter what iLO4 comes with your server you will have a remote console once you add in the license key. The dell idracs have actual hardware differences from what I know so If you buy one without the virtual console you will need to switch out the idrac module. However none of them compare to the open source Pi-KVM which is raspberry pi based and open source and can be attached to any comodity hardware so no need to buy motherboards with IPMI. It is also supports virtual media so its much better than tinypilot. Oh and you can attach one Pi-KVM to a kvm switch and control the buttons using the GPIO so you can remotely switch between servers.
I agree. They both do great work independent. As a team these guys are absolutely awesome! They bring humanity to IT and when we get to listen, all the added little bits of context from their experienced shared, enhances the experience for viewers. Thanks fellas.
Nothing about virt-manager? I think that's a notable program here even though it's not a type 1 hypervisor. Virtualbox was also mentioned. The pikvm is a good alternative to the tiny pilot raspberry pi KVM, it also lets you mount a virtual ISO image to install an OS, and it's completely open-source. On old HP Proliant servers you can crack the license key for the annoying java based iLO management interface btw.
You need idrac Enterprise to get video console (IPKVM). it's a perpetual license - Gen 13 and newer ship with the complete hardware, and you can upgrade the licenses to enterprise as a key.
Love both channels and have an interesting story about setting up my server. Had found an ancient HP Proliant DL360 G5 for a steal and planned to install and run XCP NG on it. Tried and tried but couldn't get it to install and boot. Issue is apparently with BIOS firmware that hasn't been updated in over 10 years and I was having trouble tracking down. Just for kicks I tried installing Proxmox and it worked great. Still want to find something to run XCP NG so I can build that skill, but Proxmox turned out to be the best option for this particular situation.
If anyone is interested, then OMV now has a kvm plugin, you need to enable testing repo and the install kvm. It very new, but will allow you to make vms. The developer is very active in the OMV forums
The only hypervisor I'd love to see get more attention and videos about is oVirt! It is awesome, it's like like vSphere, but in cool EDIT: Didn't see to the end yet 😅 The GUI is provided by the self hosted engine which is like Orchestra or vCenter. You can deploy it either via shared storage (gluster, NFS, ISCSI) but it can be run on a single host as well with gluster single host! EDIT: you might run into blacklisting issues when deploying the engine on gluster. You'll have to manually edit the /etc/lvm/lvm.conf. you'll find the line somewhere in the middle or a little lower. It begins with something like allow and a really long string. It's the wwn of the boot lvm drive. You'll either have to edit the line to not disable every other drive or add another regex to allow the devices or just put in |/dev/sdX| (you should rather use disk-by-id of course) I'd love to help anyone trying to set it up!
In my experience the built in backup system of proxmox is.... unreliable to say the least. Sometimes it fails so hard that I have to actually reboot my physical server, which is unacceptable. Hopefully their separate one is better.
Flashing Intel RAID card to IT mode is a pretty elementary affair, you've just got to do a bit of research and find instructions online that are easy to follow.
I like using VMs, despite that I'm retired since 12 years after working 41 years in ICT. I use Virtualbox, because I run everything on my desktop. It saves money and the 3D acceleration is mostly working. I like to collect in a VM. the OSes I used in my past, so I have all Windows releases from 1987 (1.04) till 2023 (11 Pro) and all Ubuntu LTS Releases from 6.06 LTS to 22.04 LTS; the first 4.10 release and my first 5.04 release. I also have MS-DOS; DR-DOS; OS/2 Warp, FreeBSD 13.2 and around 40 Linux distros mostly flavors or derivaties of Ubuntu, but also Fedora 33 & 38; Manjaro; Debian 11.6 & 12; OpenSUSE 12.1; 15.4 & 15.5; Peppermint 3; 7; 9 & 10 and gOS 3.1.
“Containerize all the things is not a great idea; some apps don’t work inside a container” - I remember when I was told this same thing about VMs...
Great show guys. I'm glad you mentioned how preferring one solution doesn't mean you hate the alternative. I think politicians and news media constantly pit one side against another when that is not the way the world works . The tech business especially shows that your best use case depends on your environment, your knowledge, your budget, etc. I appreciate you both acknowledging that. Thanks for your work .
I just love Proxmox and the backup cababilities provided by the Proxmox backup server. Even, if not everything runs smoothly in containers, with some configurations, even nested docker in lxc is easily possible
HP released an update for iLO4 which contains a HTML5 console. The advantage to the HP iLO over Dell is that there is only 1 model and the features are locked behind a generic license key. So no matter what iLO4 comes with your server you will have a remote console once you add in the license key. The dell idracs have actual hardware differences from what I know so If you buy one without the virtual console you will need to switch out the idrac module. However none of them compare to the open source Pi-KVM which is raspberry pi based and open source and can be attached to any comodity hardware so no need to buy motherboards with IPMI. It is also supports virtual media so its much better than tinypilot. Oh and you can attach one Pi-KVM to a kvm switch and control the buttons using the GPIO so you can remotely switch between servers.
Wow love the video, I need to sit down and listen again with a paper and pen.
Great partnership. I follow both for a very long time. Congrats for the initiative!
I agree. They both do great work independent. As a team these guys are absolutely awesome! They bring humanity to IT and when we get to listen, all the added little bits of context from their experienced shared, enhances the experience for viewers. Thanks fellas.
Nothing about virt-manager? I think that's a notable program here even though it's not a type 1 hypervisor. Virtualbox was also mentioned. The pikvm is a good alternative to the tiny pilot raspberry pi KVM, it also lets you mount a virtual ISO image to install an OS, and it's completely open-source. On old HP Proliant servers you can crack the license key for the annoying java based iLO management interface btw.
You need idrac Enterprise to get video console (IPKVM). it's a perpetual license - Gen 13 and newer ship with the complete hardware, and you can upgrade the licenses to enterprise as a key.
container performance comparison on proxmox vs xcp-ng vs esxi vs vanila kvm
Love both channels and have an interesting story about setting up my server. Had found an ancient HP Proliant DL360 G5 for a steal and planned to install and run XCP NG on it. Tried and tried but couldn't get it to install and boot. Issue is apparently with BIOS firmware that hasn't been updated in over 10 years and I was having trouble tracking down. Just for kicks I tried installing Proxmox and it worked great. Still want to find something to run XCP NG so I can build that skill, but Proxmox turned out to be the best option for this particular situation.
Brings up the issue, if used/old hardware, what are odds introducing easily hackable vulnerabilty, if not actually paying for a pre-hacked system?
Damnit I also missed the live show. This is awesome
If anyone is interested, then OMV now has a kvm plugin, you need to enable testing repo and the install kvm.
It very new, but will allow you to make vms.
The developer is very active in the OMV forums
The only hypervisor I'd love to see get more attention and videos about is oVirt! It is awesome, it's like like vSphere, but in cool
EDIT: Didn't see to the end yet 😅 The GUI is provided by the self hosted engine which is like Orchestra or vCenter. You can deploy it either via shared storage (gluster, NFS, ISCSI) but it can be run on a single host as well with gluster single host!
EDIT: you might run into blacklisting issues when deploying the engine on gluster. You'll have to manually edit the /etc/lvm/lvm.conf. you'll find the line somewhere in the middle or a little lower. It begins with something like allow and a really long string. It's the wwn of the boot lvm drive. You'll either have to edit the line to not disable every other drive or add another regex to allow the devices or just put in |/dev/sdX| (you should rather use disk-by-id of course) I'd love to help anyone trying to set it up!
Gah, missed it. Thanks to both of you for the great content! 👍
A promising series 😃
Great show I really enjoyed that!
My homelab is my company paid for AWS account.
better hope your company doesn't audit it's assets ever...
@@l00tur they give me a budget of $500 per month for my personal account. It benefits them since I learn more about the platform.
This seems really promising.
Will there be a rss feed for the classic podcast type?
Yes, that will be done soon along with a dedicated site.
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS Awesome - excited to see what might come from this partnership!
oVirt is what behind Red Hat Virtualization.
Indeed
Dammit I missed the live show.
looking for a reasonable motherboard for a nas, that has atleast 7 sata ports, any ideas
Why is this episode not available in the audio RSS feed? It starts at episode 2?
Weird, I will look into that.
In my experience the built in backup system of proxmox is.... unreliable to say the least. Sometimes it fails so hard that I have to actually reboot my physical server, which is unacceptable. Hopefully their separate one is better.
That's weird. It works for me using ZFS storage, maybe you have some weird error or missconfiguration. Could also maybe be a hardware error.
I have them on HP Elite Desk Mini G3 800s ( 8 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700T CPU, 32 gb of Ram) and (1) nuc6i7kyk 8 cores 32 gb core i7
I install ubuntu 18.04 on VirtualBox on Windows 10. Im disapointed as it only works with 1 CPU. Sigh!
Hibernation is usually broken on Ubuntu. Hibernation seems very reliable on Windows.
Flashing Intel RAID card to IT mode is a pretty elementary affair, you've just got to do a bit of research and find instructions online that are easy to follow.
fuck, im too late. AGAIN.....