I didn't want to cover all the remembrance items because between all my other ranking videos they have been covered except for the Staff of the Great Beyond. I'll be making another video to rank all Seals and Staves where that will be included.
Why you’ll just say the staff is “mid” cause of incant scaling and pay no mind to the fact it makes the game more fun to play…. Cause that’s all you do with these rankings is brain dead meta hump based on numbers and not actually playing the game
This weapon was used by a nameless god king who united the land several ages ago, then was used by this guy to write a second legend. It is going on the wall in the shed, while the corrugated steel on a stick used by funny, tiny men is going in my hands, next to the discarded, rusting anchor of some ship.
Imagine if the boss hits 50% health and goes: "dammit, hey random henchman over there, give me your weapon" and then starts doing three times the damage
the fact that Messmer's spear gets number 1 speaks volumes on how shitty these weapons are. The Ash of War is amazing but everything else on that weapon is so fucking bad lmfao
@@andrei-cezarbleaje5519 my point is they’re the only two inherent str/int weapons in the entire dlc there’s literally no other ones and they literally shoot out beams of holy light and come from a version of a boss that has a holy god riding on his back like a cape. They should have faith scaling
One REALLY important thing about the sword lance is the status buildups from ash of wars is insane. 153 frost/bleed buildup per attack for a non-colossal weapon, plus piercing damage, is just absurd
I added hitbox to the 'first couple of swings' of Messmer's Assault. And it would be REALLY strong. Its doing literally twice as much dmg, from my testing. The reason is in the vanilla game one is not doing dmg, because the *firsr couple of swings' dont contain Invokebulletbehavior, and invokeattackbehavior. If these two things are missing it wont do any dmg. Thats a very simple explonation, but I dont wanna go into things.
The Staff from the Two Finger's Mother might be one of the best in the game. It has the unique ability to use both Sorceries and Incantation which makes any Int+Faith build so much better.
Looks to me like From went back to an older mentality with most of these weapons. In older titles, the only reason you'd use boss weapons was for the bit, because they were never the optimal choice *coughs in Faron Greatsword* , and always left you with an absurd stat spread. Frankly, we got plenty of OP cannon weapons with Ash of War to win, with the base game. These ones are meant to be cool and fun, as opposed to broken, and I like that.
I will never understand what FromSoft's problem is with boss remembrance weapons :D Like it's absolutely hilarious how bad they are, especially in this case where they get introduced with LGS, backhand blades, swift slash and the mighty chicken leg. Radahn's swords at least should have gotten the cross cleave move as one of their combos.
SPOILERS I feel like the no faith scaling makes sense lore wise for the greatsword of radahn, as the holy part of his attacks comes from miquella and not radahn himself.
Still don't know what's fromsofts fixation with giving boss weapons the most random requirements and split damage and make them not even scale properly for those
There’s an alternate universe where Radhan’s greatsword has a unique moveset, a stance ash of war, and faith scaling, and it’s the single greatest weapon ever
Regarding the greatsword of damnation, it should be noted that the DLC comes with a SIGNIFICANT amount of NPC encounters, especially when compared to the base game.
I've been doing tons of invasions with it. If this was a pvp tier list it would be #1 cause the grab is insane and can pull people out of any animation you can think of (messmer spear, hand of malenia, even swift slash if you time it right) and it has the claymore moveset which once you get good at it it is such a strong thing to play with
black flame tornado AoW trivializes all of these, even the npc sized/behaving bosses in the nameless mausoleums. they will roll into or just walk into the startup every time and don’t roll out of being knocked over by the end explosion. easy chain stagger to death every time with stamina regen tools. even in the group npc fights it’s disgusting
I will never understand why From makes the most boring weapons the best, while the crazy boss weapons that are far harder to get than just killing a basic enemy or just picking it up are mediocre
If you think about it, it's the same as life. You rarely meet the most beautiful person are also the most intelligent, most humble, and so on. So, game balance? Realistic reasons?
@@thepainphantom its not that deep bud, he's implying the harder the weapon is to obtain the stronger it should be rather than a random ahh blade you pick up from a rat's corpse next to a highway
@@tengkuhafiz4174 So that even casuals can play the game relatively easier and enjoying the game without having to beat the hard(est) bosses first. Game balance, how more players can enjoy playing the game (not just the "elitists"). It's a deep thinking from the devs perspective. While you're thinking only for yourself, the devs is thinking how inclusive the game would be for all kinds of players (or the majority of average).
@@thepainphantomThen just make the boss weapons the same level of strength as those easy to obtain weapons? There’s no reason that the boss weapons should be outclassed by normal weapons, and having them be unviable just gives the bosses less incentive to fight. They don’t have to be the better weapons, just dont have them be average at best
Straight up, I'm using it on a new character now, and it's so fun to use. It's doing good really early game, but I can already feel it dropping off hard.
My guess is that because radahn himself is not holy and is instead a more intelligence based boss with his gravity magic. He gets holy from miquella which we don’t have a miquella on our back. Don’t ask me y we get the skill tho, that’s just my thought at the reasoning behind the weird scalings
If I was them I would not have added Radahn weapons as a reward to begin with except replaced it with a very good talisman or incantation that is unique and not a reskin 🤮
@@DEMON_SUNGODTrue, we already have starscourge, if they were gonna readd it they should have made it faith based and a unique move set so it isn’t just a reskin
My question is why do we not get a gravity(str/int) version and the other being holy(str/faith) Base game we get gravity sure but the dlc could give us a better version I get the holy nuke perfect spell choice Give lords AoW to light+make it holy instead of int scaling, and make Lord's AoW become the meteor or the summon a bunch asteroids that act like a homing soul mass then
@RedDragonFlayer I feel like just for the 2 diff ashes of war on the sword they should be a stance to choose between both, and then we get radahn rp stance just holding both swords out like radahn himself
Why is FromSoft so afraid of making the player feel cool and powerful. The summation of basically all of these weapons is "looks cool, but is handily outclassed in every way by something you already have."
probably because they want to focus on balancing things around the pvp side of the game. which is to say they want everything weak or the pvp brainlets would whine and cry because they see even just 2 people using the same weapon or have to actually learn how to avoid something.
@@svartrbrisingr6141you say this but the absolutely disgusting abomination that is Quick Slash with its low FP cost, high distance coverage, ability to be charged, great Status application, ability to bypass shields with the delayed AOE slashes, fast animation, I-frames, and high poise damage in PvP exists
@@giantturtlecat2959seriously. Yet when I want a heavy, slow weapon with something that does less damage to have more hyper armor, it’s a resounding “no”
I agree it sucks. They want this game to feel like a full time job for no reason. And when you gain rewards, it is so mediocre you almost don't want to use what you JUST OBTAINED!
@@giantturtlecat2959 Meh, as long as it doesn't one shot people I don't see a problem. I also don't see why they can't nerf something specifically in PvP instead of across the board? Just make those broken things do less damage and stat proc to other players.
Fromsoft never learns. When tje most viable op stuff is still the overtuned bleed. They could have changed it or at least done the bare minimum of fixing status effects to not proc when rolled through. They don't have to try because these kids will buy the next one anyways. They really need to het their priorities straight since combat in thos game could have been finally good, and properly working. Instead they did nore weapons that are trash than focusing on less but better quality
@@theblackbaron4119 wouldnt say the weapons are trash since their entire moveset and animations are supercool, they definitely delivered quality. The problem is they were severely under tuned, and that really fucks up the sentiment of acomplishment after beating this dlc. (Radahns weapon is fucking trash, just the same weapon again, but for some reason its 2)
Spoilers. The gazing finger does holy damage because the mother of fingers is directly linked to the greater will. It is the intermediary between the will and the 2 fingers
@spaceman10th31 Then there comes the lore crazes, which there are more than you think of who will complain about the fact that the enemy is a holy being and its weapon is dealing magic dmg so they will start complaning bout that
@spaceman10th31 getting holy weapon from enemies from faction that is obviously holy-aligned is not 'bad design' it's called common sense. If you wanna complaint the damage is pathetic, feel free, but that's what we call badly balanced. Not badly designed. For someone who are very quick to label others, you sure are not that sharp.
Orphan of Kos is the one fight in bloodborne that has a distinct rhythm. Most of them are syncopated and erratic. I have issues with most bosses even on repeat playthrough but I never had a problem with Orphan
Rellana’s twin blades and both of Radahn Swords are gonna get buffed for sure, Rellana’s blades feels like the Int/Fth scaling are basically nonexistent (tested the AoW with minimal requirements and 50 on each and the damage barely increased) this weapon is definitely gonna get an increase on the scalings to like B and raw damage of skills too, and Radahn’s weapons are missing the scaling on faith to increase the holy damage, that damage is just pathetic and feels like using an AoW on minimal requirement
@@ToasterDsG didn’t say it in the best way (probably gonna edit to fix) but I meant that tested 55 Str/Dex with 50 Int/Fth against 55 Str/Dex with 16 Int/Fth
@@horrificbeauty1666 problem is that you have to stay still for a while to get the same damage that NaF does while being quick, generally skills where you take a while to execute you either do big damage or huge poise (or both) like Godslayer sword that can melt bosses, but the AoW of this weapon takes forever and does less damage than a single complete use of Solitary Moon Slash which is insanely quicker with lots more of poise dmg
@@horrificbeauty1666 its mostly because of him testing the weapons at rl150 instead of rl200 or even rl250. A lot of the dlc weapons feel like they're meant for higher levels than the arbitrary 150. For instance, the Putrescent cleaver has some of highest ar in class when hitting the soft caps for stats; the fact that theres multiple new spells that go far beyond the imposed soft caps just kinda tell you that the dlc is designed for higher level play. Rellana's twin blades go up to 1460 ar with 40 str and dex plus 60 in both int and fth straight up the best in its class in the dlc. Also reminder, there's multiple videos on here that prove that split damage isnt as bad at all anymore; many times just being overall better; especially if you abuse enemy weaknesses.
18:26 there is another helmet called the winged serpent helm which boosts fireknight and messmers skills but by 10% while messmers helm only boosts them by 3%. (tested it myself it gives a higher boost specific numbers are from wiki though)
With a DLC where throwing weapons are a new mechanic, why the hell doesn't the Putrescence Cleaver have that? It should've been a frostbite heavy boomerange attack that dropped goop and shit that left ghostflame on the ground.
@@somersaultinggiraffe1901bruh there are so many op builds and weapons in these games idk what you are complaining about. Also "artificial difficulty" just because you can't just mash the same button and ignore everything else in a fight doesn't mean the difficulty is artificial.
@somersaultinggiraffe1901 lmao they have good weapons and when they make "good weapons" as you put it, any challenge is removed from the game, mohgs spear is the best example of how broken they can end up being if they become lore accurate
@@rangopistacho6928 then idk, just make status effects proc later, or increase the bosses health, or make it so that bosses don't stand in one place like a deer standing in front of a 300 mph truck
I actually just hate when fromsoftware gives you the coolest and best bosses ever made, and the weapon you get from them ends up being one of the worst weapons in the game, like a freaking big ass stick (great club) is better than Radahn's Greatsword (Light and Lord) and not to note they don't even give us a new moveset, they just decided to put the regular ass power stance Ultra Greatsword moveset, this is the reason why I Bloodborne is one of my favorite games, every boss weapon you get feels so good because all of them have different movesets
They should have given those bosses weapons of the new weapon types, not a bunch of greatswords and weapons we already have better ones in the base game. Also feels like most of their skills are just too slow for most of the DLC bosses who are that aggressive imo.
So many broken weapons and spells in this DLC. 90% are broken in a way that makes them useless, and 10% are broken in a way that makes them super OP. Hopefully they patch this stuff soon so there are more than a handful of fun new things to use.
People just love to complain. If you remember DS1 & Bloodborne, they had the same 1/10 ratio of OP Meta vs generic weapon. Fact is, no other game in history has this many weapons, movesets and customizability. Balancing all these hundreds of weapons so that most of them are playable is a fantastical feat by itself
@@4Shaman Bloodborne was pretty good at having almost everything be at least on a level playing field. Saw-Cleaver/Spear and pizza cutter being outliers on the powerful side of things, and Tonitrus being... Well, Tonitrus. It's annoying in ER, especially in this dlc, where we got a lot of cool looking weapons and moves that are just mid at best, while your run of the mill real world looking weapons are goated out of their minds.
@@4Shamanthe only bloodflame spell we get in the dlc does not cause bleed buildup. It's more than just spells being unbalanced, some of them are broken for better or for worse
@@Toviyah1305 they are still so disappointing, like what was the need of making 2 identical swords but with different skills. If they really wanted so hard to make 2 pair of swords they could have done one related with int/magic and one related with faith/holy. So many option and they choose the weirdest and dumbest one
Not every weapon needs a unique moveset just a select few. Boss weapons have never been the best in fromsofts games but they should've been in Elden ring because they were amazing in ds3
Something cool you can try with the rellana sword is that since rellana’s sword can be on either hand, you can use the milady on the other hand with a focus on magic or fire depending on which hand you put the sword on , and you get the normal light greatsword powerstance moveset. So if you’re against an enemy who’s fire weak, you can put the sword on the left hand, and put a flame infusion milady on the right hand. Or if you prefer magic, you can infuse the milady with cold or magic and put it on the left hand, and you can still use the stance ash of war on the main hand with the magic half of rellana’s swords
@@jeremytewari3346 Yup! If you equip the weapon on the left hand and the milady on the right with a flame art, you’ll have 2 fire weapons instead of just 1 fire and 1 magic from powerstancing. Only caveat is that you cant use the rellana ash of war, but you can also just slap flame spear on the milady and now you’re gaming
@@benzoFE88 dope, always liked the twin swords but found them underwhelming, especially since bosses tend to be resistant to at least one of the two damage types, so that’s good to know!
@@foaduk9118 some of them are ok but the scaling is bad or the dmg of the weapon art/ash of war is bad for example the weapon hit does 2k dmg and the ,,explosion” just does 800 dmg
Hopefully or else I'm not buying another dlc. I love the dlc but the point is to have cool strong shit as well like how tf is the blasphemous stronger than all of these damn weapons combined, and it's from a gimmick fight?
This is my main concern with Elden Rind dlc. The best weapons in the game SHOULD be dlc weapons!!! We waited 2 years for me to throw everything aside just to keep using moonveil lol unacceptable! Release them overpowered and THEN adjust from there with nerfs!
@@PaulSmith-nb6mdcap moonveil will break your stance way faster than the magic attack on rellanas blade not to mention once you do the magic attack you’re locked in place and basically asking to get hit while moonveil shoots one wave and your free to dodge again
@@PaulSmith-nb6md No, the moonveil is definitely better than that wannabe Sword of Night and Flame. The Star-Lined Sword (which has a very cool movset) is unfortunately also inferior to the Moonveil. Luckily for int builds there is the ash of war "Carian Sovereignty", which works very well with the Claymore.
@@PaulSmith-nb6mdif you’re comparing the fun factor then sure. But moonveil is: >faster and with less end lag >has better general scaling >has bleed >is more flexible >has a more reliable moveset
I get what you are saying but moonveil is so simple that it’s just designed to be one of the best weapons in the game. Katanas are insane in elden ring compared to older souls games too
Radahns swords not having its own move set was the biggest boner killer ever bc i genuinely like the swords but dude they’re so ass and people who say they’re good are just coping ngl
the moveset part is unfortunate but i doubt they’ll leave the weapons damage and scalings as they are. i would be incredibly surprised if there wasn’t a balance patch with how bad most of the dlc weapons and spells are
@@sabbatize4182 not every weapon is good and not every weapon is practical either. I'll take the blasphemous blade over all of these any day of the week and the sad part is that it’s not even close.
With all I have seen in this DLC... Fromsoftware was just ALL OVER THE PLACE. They had a mix of great ideas poorly implemented, and poor ideas that benefitted us greatly.
@@glitchedporygon5426 Rellana's Cameo is mid tho. You're better off using only Shard and then picking a scorpion charm for the element because you won't have to wait around for the buff. They need to buff Cameo by another +10% damage, or make it give stances some hyper armor (which would be kinda OP, but idc, it would be freaking awesome if it did).
I wish Messmer's Spear was a halberd instead. Messmer himself uses it with so much agility and elegance, and weaves just as many swiping slashes into his moveset as thrusts. I love the AoW but the moveset feels like you're using a completely different weapon.
Heres the funny thing: In real life.. Spears even Heavy ones are very nimble weapons. I did HEMA for a few years with a focus on Spear to Spear combat :P I dont know why Fromsoft is insisting on Spears being such slow and sluggish weapons. Sure you wont swing it around like Mesmer or during the AoW in real life but these slow ass pokes are so infuriating to me xD
I am a bit confused as to why elden ring, especially the dlc, gives you so many holy weapons and incantations, but makes it the worst damage type in the game. Like I get the lore reasons but I figured at least the dlc would provide some bosses weak to holy damage.
I mean putrescent knight and midra are both very weak to holy, and only 2 boss are specifically resistant to holy (last boss and scadu avatar) so really not bad overall
@@Dorkyoo most of the bosses are weak to lightning to I'll tell you Knights lightning Spear with death knight set and lightning charm and other lightning buffs... Literally took about 3 fully charged casts to kill putrescent knight 😂
I've been using sacred relic sword for most of the dlc and I don't want to. When I first saw Rellana's AOW I was so excited to try it just to be disappointed aswell with messmers spear
One thing that Rellana's Twin Blade has going for them is the fact that as long as you start the stance R2 (the flaming tornado), the flaming pillars that come with it are going to erupt whatever happens. Helped me stagger ennemies and even bosses out of their animations or even take bosses down with me as a double KO.
Little bit of advice on Rellana's Twin Blades, the physical damage benefits the most from strength and dex while the ash of war benefits pretty much exclusively from faith and intelligence. On high faith and intelligence the ash of war hits like a Mack truck, I've seen the heavy L2 do well over 6K damage on an optimized build and the light L2 can hit even harder with the appropriate stats and talismans in place. It's definitely a weapon that requires an absurdly high level if you want to truly see it's power shine but once you do good god is it nigh unstoppable to anything and everything especially targets weak to magic or flame. I was testing it out on NG++ on my level 400 character and was just ripping through bosses and minibosses in the Lands of Shadow like they were made of wet tissue paper it's a beast
I played with a max magic dmg set up at 99 int and the light projectiles were just usable, but definetly not unstoppable or god-tier in damage. I wasn't soft-capping many stats (i had only 35 faith and 27 str), but i was on normal NG, so it should be even stronger there.
@@Spike2276 I've broken 8K with the full L2 light combo at close range, if I was making a continuous attack setup or a critical health setup I can easily see that breaking 12K in combo it goes hard
Greatsword of Radahn (Light) shouldve been replaced with (Gravity) has given the player the massive corkscrew attack with the ground slam follow up Radahn starts the fight with
Absolutely criminal the putrescense cleaver is not a hex weapon. Also, no ghost flame trailing you during spins? It's such a shame for such a cool looking weapon.
Rellana’s twinblades are mid… Literally the whole gimmick of the weapon is Int/Fth and does trash damage on my lvl 165 build with 50 Int and 72 Fth wasted potential 🤦🏿 damage scaling is laughable in Int/Fth
Beated all but the final boss with Rellana's twin blades. The basic moveset is just really cool and does decent damage. The weapon art does take it's time to come out and doesn't do that much damage to compensate but the fire attack it's good to stagger enemies like the jumping disk enemies or the Mesmer fire enemies. I'm just in love with the basic moveset. Sad that that's the only weapon in the list which gets a cool new moveset.
It’s not good. They need to remove the 15 second timer for that buff. It already takes long enough to gain the buff and it goes away after using the skill so I don’t understand why it needs a timer. It’s a holy twinblade so it wouldn’t even be an S tier even if they made that change. At least have it last 1 minute.
@@youwyGlad it’s not just me ha. Appreciate it. I mean bad enough have the bosses in the game have holy resistant to the nines, the buff being so hard to proc AND having a timer is wild.
@@youwyI was disappointed because I was so excited seeing the cut content weapon. Then I get it an try to test it on the potentates and they died before I could get close to level 2 with all their rolling. It sucks that most of the cool weapons are mid.
I was so fucking dissapointed when Poleblade of the Bud turned out to be less then mediocre. Greased weapons do more Rot, the AoW is trash and the dmg otherwise is fairly low. I dont know why they make innate Rot weapons so terrible :( The Moveset of the Glaive otherwise isnt even that good either.
Poleblade of the Bud was what I used to defeat Radahn since I wanted to try and force an arcane build. Perfume bottles wearn't working well for me since I never found rolling sparks. I ended up beating Radahn 2-handing the Bud and just trying to desperately learn to roll through his attacks. WIthout summons/ashes took me like 60-80 attempts and the scarlet rot never even went off during phase 2 since he was so resistant and I was playing safe so that whole idea went to waste. I really just wish the special did a lot more buildup and had hyper armour.
@@darthkarl99 probably not the case with putrescence cleaver, default frost weapons in Elden Ring have always been worse at applying frost then frost infused weapons by a substantial margin.
i wish more of the boss had weapons that were in the new weapon classes, there is just rellana and then they just spammed the same three classes that they always put the boss weapons in while all the new classes have like three weapons each. like romina could have given us a rot perfume bottle, or divine beast could have given some lightning bolt throwing weapon.
Honestly love that you get a choice of an ash of war or a talisman definitely one of the best remembrances in the game they should actually do more of that instead of giving us weak incants and shit weapons
Radhan's swords are my babies, they carried me through most of the base game as a STR boy. Just meet the INT requirement, go full STR and that's it and you still deals a lot with the AOW being amazing against small groups. The DLC ones are just its bastard and disabled children...
it really is disappointing. Some of the bosses are actually really cool but the weapons just don't match their energy at all. I feel like there isn't much to explore either, just a lot of empty areas. Compared to the base game and how much content there is, SOTE just isn't even worth the $40
Somthing also important to note with Spear of the Impaler, the charged heavy attack does a fire explosion, which is also possible while riding torrent. idk why but i find this weapons move set to actually be incredibly OP atm. not only is it a great spear, which means the new shield wall build is probably meta right now.
Not that far into the game but honestly have felt the same about most of the "Named" items including things like Rakshasa's Great Katana. Like why would I ever use that when I could use the normal Great Katana, get really good scaling off Heavy or Keen, give it a sick ash of war, AND buff it with bloodflame? If their ashes of war were really cool like Dryleaf then that would make up for the shortcomings but like you pointed out in this video, a lot of them are either totally mid or else have HUGE drawbacks
I think a lot of these can be quite easily fixed with just a couple numbers tweaks, like most of the dlc spells which just need better damage/speed/hyper-armour, but what really bothers me is the Radahn greatswords which are just weird and stupid, they really should get merged into one weapon, which just wont happen, and the fact that the final ER boss weapon is just copypasted Starscourde PGS is gotta be the saddest thing ever. But hey, never say never I guess.
Still can't believe we got a reused boss as a FINAL DLC boss, and we get armour that already exists (with different hairstyle) and 2 copies of weapon that already exist as a reward 🤣
I find it funny how the 2 weapons FightinCowboy hyped up are in the bottom 3. Dude just keeps showing the community how little he actually knows about the game as much as he makes out he knows everything.
After defeating Messmer, I immediatly thought I wanted that Spear. The way he moves with it, he style, the flow, it seemed like everything I wanted from one (I usually don't like Polearms because they feel kinda boring to me). I immediately got it, looked at it and Look how they massacared my Boy. Everything about the DLC is really good, but its a bit weird how the Ashes of War and the Base Weapons somehow outclass the Boss weapons. Aside from Rellanas Twinblades, I will never get tired of that.
@@nolis6637 what they do for Relanna is the same they to for Messmer, boss moveset in the ash of war, normal moveset for Relanna weapon is not the same moveset the boss has so i dont get the hate, personally I loved Messmer spear
I’m disappointed with every weapon they added in the dlc. There are some cool ones sure, but like 99 weapons or more and there’s none that I’m excited to do a build with. Some that look cool just suck. I feel like no cool weapons have good scaling at all. Idk maybe I haven’t seen everything but to me it seems lacking
How come Radahn's sword doesn't emit 7000 holy attacks that blind my opponents and poise stagger them to death every time I swing it? Doesn't work as advertised FROM
Well I am enjoying using rellana 's weapons. They are amazing no matter what anyone says. I am destroying several things with them and if my sorry ass can do that, then better players can do even better work
@@DEMON_SUNGODI think he means u can’t use these weapons at lvls lower than 120 and I agree too much requirements in diff categories n then some for dmg while trying to keep high endurance or vigor.
I wish the frost greataxe was better. The weapon is kind of big but since it’s a ridiculous curve it gives the weapon no reach. I feel like if you have a colossal weapon with low range then I expect above average damage to compensate for the downsides
I have a very special place in my heart for the sunflower because it was the weapon which got me the win against consort. Yeah the ash of war is useless because i used the charged attack tailsmans and physic also the holy physic. But not the holy scop because i found out that useing it consort 3 hit combo will one shot you. So using fully charged attacks can deal like 4k in his first phase and 2k or 3k in his second.
The Sword Lance saved my ass vs the final boss. Stuck bleed on it and hid behind my shield, haha. It kept me from having to spend a larval tear on a dex respec, so I appreciated it.
Now than the "grandiosity" of it has worn off a bit, man, Radahn being the final DLC boss was kind of a waste, huh? It was a nice bit of fanservice, and I think that, particle effects aside, they absolutely nailed the atmosphere. But considering the small list of extremely impactful characters they could have used (Godwyn, Gloam-Eyed Queen, or hell, just Miquella himself), Radahn seems like an odd choice -- and it's not like anything hinted at him ever being Miquella's "promised consort" in the vanilla game. His Remembrance weapons being absolute filler is the rotten cherry on top.
Dude, it's a sword LANCE. Ofc it's gonna share moves with the lance. And btw, the weapon is still top tier (it's definitely better than Messmer's spear, that's for sure) without the HTS running heavy. It's like getting served the best slice of cheesecake in the world, but you're just not happy about it because there wasn't a cherry on top. It's absolutely dominating in pvp as well. It has a guaranteed follow up on it's (hyper armor) heavy. Try putting cragblade on it, and check out the ridiculous amount of damage you can pump out with it. Genuinely one of the best weapons in the dlc.
Conclusion? They all kinda suck and appear non tested, which was expected given they patched and tweaked all weapons from the base game throughout it's lifecycle, and not just dmg, no no, they tweaked everything at everything, swing speed, recovery time, damage, range etc. They also tweaked almost all spells and all armors. Funny how this happened AGAIN :) And it's not just bad balancing in terms of weapons sucking, Solitary moonlight greatsword is...just disgusting, i am currently using it, it has A strength scaling and D in dex which is insane, and at my 23 dex and 65 strength it has 294 + 502 AR scaling, just disgusting, not even colossal weapons have that scaling, wanna know the most hilarious part? it also has 89% physical dmg negation while guarding =))) bro is better than most medium shields like what?
I didn't want to cover all the remembrance items because between all my other ranking videos they have been covered except for the Staff of the Great Beyond. I'll be making another video to rank all Seals and Staves where that will be included.
There will be a spirit ashes list?
I’ve been using messmer spear for PvP and also his spells it is amazing just constant pressure
Maternal staff is just lusats staff but doesn't have the extra fp usage debuff, very balanced
How would you compare staff of the great beyond to the other weapons?
Why you’ll just say the staff is “mid” cause of incant scaling and pay no mind to the fact it makes the game more fun to play…. Cause that’s all you do with these rankings is brain dead meta hump based on numbers and not actually playing the game
Fromsoft specialty making a random fodder mob weapon an s tier godly weapon and then making the coolest shit dropped from a main boss complete ass lol
This weapon was used by a nameless god king who united the land several ages ago, then was used by this guy to write a second legend. It is going on the wall in the shed, while the corrugated steel on a stick used by funny, tiny men is going in my hands, next to the discarded, rusting anchor of some ship.
Imagine if the boss hits 50% health and goes: "dammit, hey random henchman over there, give me your weapon" and then starts doing three times the damage
lmao Bloodfiend arm
The moment an oversized chicken wing is better than a legendary god slaying sword
@@aprinnyonbreak1290The bleed insane tho
the fact that Messmer's spear gets number 1 speaks volumes on how shitty these weapons are. The Ash of War is amazing but everything else on that weapon is so fucking bad lmfao
The radahn swords scaling really feels like they got to the end of the dlc and realized they didn’t put in any str/int weapons
i mean , the weapon being str/int makes sense .
@@andrei-cezarbleaje5519 my point is they’re the only two inherent str/int weapons in the entire dlc there’s literally no other ones and they literally shoot out beams of holy light and come from a version of a boss that has a holy god riding on his back like a cape. They should have faith scaling
@@mr.l3567 hmm,idk man they are the weapons of radhan the holy part of them is miquella's doing .
One REALLY important thing about the sword lance is the status buildups from ash of wars is insane. 153 frost/bleed buildup per attack for a non-colossal weapon, plus piercing damage, is just absurd
I added hitbox to the 'first couple of swings' of Messmer's Assault. And it would be REALLY strong. Its doing literally twice as much dmg, from my testing. The reason is in the vanilla game one is not doing dmg, because the *firsr couple of swings' dont contain Invokebulletbehavior, and invokeattackbehavior. If these two things are missing it wont do any dmg. Thats a very simple explonation, but I dont wanna go into things.
The Staff from the Two Finger's Mother might be one of the best in the game. It has the unique ability to use both Sorceries and Incantation which makes any Int+Faith build so much better.
Looks to me like From went back to an older mentality with most of these weapons. In older titles, the only reason you'd use boss weapons was for the bit, because they were never the optimal choice *coughs in Faron Greatsword* , and always left you with an absurd stat spread. Frankly, we got plenty of OP cannon weapons with Ash of War to win, with the base game. These ones are meant to be cool and fun, as opposed to broken, and I like that.
The final boss weapon being lousy is so in character for fromsoft lol
Such a missed opportunity not having the Radahn swords be 1 weapon with a stance skill + a unique moveset similar to the Ringed Knight Greatswords
Sword Lance gets the most status build up of any Heavy Thrusting Sword and Greatspear when infused.
Not having a faith scaling katana based of Bayle is such a missed opportunity
Why does Bayle have no remembrance to begin with?? He literally fucked up Placidusax up, and is one the best main bosses in the whole DLC
all these still kinda suck tho was disappointed
I will never understand what FromSoft's problem is with boss remembrance weapons :D
Like it's absolutely hilarious how bad they are, especially in this case where they get introduced with LGS, backhand blades, swift slash and the mighty chicken leg.
Radahn's swords at least should have gotten the cross cleave move as one of their combos.
Ah another greatsword with a cool ash of war that I'll never use because it looks ugly as hell.
So disappointed that it’s not just radahns fucking light speed ground rush that shit is so cool lol
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I feel like the no faith scaling makes sense lore wise for the greatsword of radahn, as the holy part of his attacks comes from miquella and not radahn himself.
i feel almost every single one of these weapons was made for pvp
Great sword of damnation should be placed in F tier for being so unbelievably disappointing why tf does the weapon not do any frenzied flame damage.
Still don't know what's fromsofts fixation with giving boss weapons the most random requirements and split damage and make them not even scale properly for those
I assume as some kind of internal joke they have going😅.
There’s an alternate universe where Radhan’s greatsword has a unique moveset, a stance ash of war, and faith scaling, and it’s the single greatest weapon ever
It does have unique moves where you swing the sword with the light beams youwy is just fat and didn't show them
Thete's an alternate universe where Radahn isn't the final boss and we have a better boss
@@thecatinthehatwithabat9903 Nah. Promised Radahn is cool.
@@thecatinthehatwithabat9903 Gloam eyes queen
In an alternate universe Youwy didn't test the weapons at the minority pvp community recommended level 150 and instead tested at higher levels.
Regarding the greatsword of damnation, it should be noted that the DLC comes with a SIGNIFICANT amount of NPC encounters, especially when compared to the base game.
Good point
the bowl cut bastard is getting skewered once again
Yeah that weapon carried me through the group fight
I've been doing tons of invasions with it. If this was a pvp tier list it would be #1 cause the grab is insane and can pull people out of any animation you can think of (messmer spear, hand of malenia, even swift slash if you time it right) and it has the claymore moveset which once you get good at it it is such a strong thing to play with
black flame tornado AoW trivializes all of these, even the npc sized/behaving bosses in the nameless mausoleums. they will roll into or just walk into the startup every time and don’t roll out of being knocked over by the end explosion. easy chain stagger to death every time with stamina regen tools. even in the group npc fights it’s disgusting
I will never understand why From makes the most boring weapons the best, while the crazy boss weapons that are far harder to get than just killing a basic enemy or just picking it up are mediocre
Fact.
It's just weird.
I mean, look at Messmer spear compared to a fireknight greatsword, it's almost funny.
If you think about it, it's the same as life. You rarely meet the most beautiful person are also the most intelligent, most humble, and so on. So, game balance? Realistic reasons?
@@thepainphantom its not that deep bud, he's implying the harder the weapon is to obtain the stronger it should be rather than a random ahh blade you pick up from a rat's corpse next to a highway
@@tengkuhafiz4174 So that even casuals can play the game relatively easier and enjoying the game without having to beat the hard(est) bosses first. Game balance, how more players can enjoy playing the game (not just the "elitists").
It's a deep thinking from the devs perspective. While you're thinking only for yourself, the devs is thinking how inclusive the game would be for all kinds of players (or the majority of average).
@@thepainphantomThen just make the boss weapons the same level of strength as those easy to obtain weapons? There’s no reason that the boss weapons should be outclassed by normal weapons, and having them be unviable just gives the bosses less incentive to fight. They don’t have to be the better weapons, just dont have them be average at best
The Battle of Mid (Please buff poleblade of the bud it's so cool I'm begging you)
Yes i want so much a buff!
Please buff the incantation too 😭 using butterflies is hype
ye if they made all the remembrance weapons like 10% better I don't think one single person would complain.
Straight up, I'm using it on a new character now, and it's so fun to use. It's doing good really early game, but I can already feel it dropping off hard.
Yeah i wish they would buff it, i love the look of it and the AoW is really cool to me, just sucks so much on dmg
The only thing I dislike with these rememberances is Radahns swords being 2 weapons for no reason and no scaling with faith.
Yeah I agree they should have way better faith scaling
My guess is that because radahn himself is not holy and is instead a more intelligence based boss with his gravity magic. He gets holy from miquella which we don’t have a miquella on our back. Don’t ask me y we get the skill tho, that’s just my thought at the reasoning behind the weird scalings
If I was them I would not have added Radahn weapons as a reward to begin with except replaced it with a very good talisman or incantation that is unique and not a reskin 🤮
@@chancefranklin3062my brother in christ the Sword literally shoots holy light
@@DEMON_SUNGODTrue, we already have starscourge, if they were gonna readd it they should have made it faith based and a unique move set so it isn’t just a reskin
Ah yes, best boss has best remembrance weapon.
My question is why do we not get a gravity(str/int) version and the other being holy(str/faith)
Base game we get gravity sure but the dlc could give us a better version
I get the holy nuke perfect spell choice
Give lords AoW to light+make it holy instead of int scaling, and make Lord's AoW become the meteor or the summon a bunch asteroids that act like a homing soul mass then
MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD!
@RedDragonFlayer I feel like just for the 2 diff ashes of war on the sword they should be a stance to choose between both, and then we get radahn rp stance just holding both swords out like radahn himself
My favorite is Midra
Wish all the weapons were as good as they looked cool
Why is FromSoft so afraid of making the player feel cool and powerful. The summation of basically all of these weapons is "looks cool, but is handily outclassed in every way by something you already have."
probably because they want to focus on balancing things around the pvp side of the game. which is to say they want everything weak or the pvp brainlets would whine and cry because they see even just 2 people using the same weapon or have to actually learn how to avoid something.
@@svartrbrisingr6141you say this but the absolutely disgusting abomination that is Quick Slash with its low FP cost, high distance coverage, ability to be charged, great Status application, ability to bypass shields with the delayed AOE slashes, fast animation, I-frames, and high poise damage in PvP exists
@@giantturtlecat2959seriously. Yet when I want a heavy, slow weapon with something that does less damage to have more hyper armor, it’s a resounding “no”
I agree it sucks. They want this game to feel like a full time job for no reason. And when you gain rewards, it is so mediocre you almost don't want to use what you JUST OBTAINED!
@@giantturtlecat2959 Meh, as long as it doesn't one shot people I don't see a problem. I also don't see why they can't nerf something specifically in PvP instead of across the board? Just make those broken things do less damage and stat proc to other players.
This lowkey makes me mad since they’re all super cool weapons but they aren’t great
Fromsoft never learns. When tje most viable op stuff is still the overtuned bleed. They could have changed it or at least done the bare minimum of fixing status effects to not proc when rolled through. They don't have to try because these kids will buy the next one anyways. They really need to het their priorities straight since combat in thos game could have been finally good, and properly working. Instead they did nore weapons that are trash than focusing on less but better quality
@@theblackbaron4119 wouldnt say the weapons are trash since their entire moveset and animations are supercool, they definitely delivered quality. The problem is they were severely under tuned, and that really fucks up the sentiment of acomplishment after beating this dlc. (Radahns weapon is fucking trash, just the same weapon again, but for some reason its 2)
Because they have to tune down everything because pvp crybabies
These are his rankings there are ways to make this these weapons work
They are great, the player base is just a bunch of whiney idiots that suck at the game
Spoilers. The gazing finger does holy damage because the mother of fingers is directly linked to the greater will. It is the intermediary between the will and the 2 fingers
Yeah idk why he questions the element of weapons. They are clearly that way because of Lore...
ALIENS
@spaceman10th31 Because it's a RPG. The entire game revolves around these aspects. I guess you don't really understand what that entails.
@spaceman10th31 Then there comes the lore crazes, which there are more than you think of who will complain about the fact that the enemy is a holy being and its weapon is dealing magic dmg so they will start complaning bout that
@spaceman10th31 getting holy weapon from enemies from faction that is obviously holy-aligned is not 'bad design' it's called common sense.
If you wanna complaint the damage is pathetic, feel free, but that's what we call badly balanced. Not badly designed.
For someone who are very quick to label others, you sure are not that sharp.
The Putrescence Cleaver give me orphan of koss PTSD...
The emotional damage is real
The movement is freaky
orphan of kos aint even bad. Promised consort radhan on the other hand... he can go do one
Orphan of Kos is the one fight in bloodborne that has a distinct rhythm. Most of them are syncopated and erratic. I have issues with most bosses even on repeat playthrough but I never had a problem with Orphan
Orphan was at least a fun fight
It is, in fact, our way to play Orphan of kos in Elden ring. Super cool weapon
Rellana’s twin blades and both of Radahn Swords are gonna get buffed for sure, Rellana’s blades feels like the Int/Fth scaling are basically nonexistent (tested the AoW with minimal requirements and 50 on each and the damage barely increased) this weapon is definitely gonna get an increase on the scalings to like B and raw damage of skills too, and Radahn’s weapons are missing the scaling on faith to increase the holy damage, that damage is just pathetic and feels like using an AoW on minimal requirement
The twinblades scale WAY better with faith and Int than Str and dex.
@@ToasterDsG didn’t say it in the best way (probably gonna edit to fix) but I meant that tested 55 Str/Dex with 50 Int/Fth against 55 Str/Dex with 16 Int/Fth
I only see the issue being, more people have been using the Rellana swords over NaF and I've seen bith pull comparable damage at same level
@@horrificbeauty1666 problem is that you have to stay still for a while to get the same damage that NaF does while being quick, generally skills where you take a while to execute you either do big damage or huge poise (or both) like Godslayer sword that can melt bosses, but the AoW of this weapon takes forever and does less damage than a single complete use of Solitary Moon Slash which is insanely quicker with lots more of poise dmg
@@horrificbeauty1666 its mostly because of him testing the weapons at rl150 instead of rl200 or even rl250. A lot of the dlc weapons feel like they're meant for higher levels than the arbitrary 150. For instance, the Putrescent cleaver has some of highest ar in class when hitting the soft caps for stats; the fact that theres multiple new spells that go far beyond the imposed soft caps just kinda tell you that the dlc is designed for higher level play. Rellana's twin blades go up to 1460 ar with 40 str and dex plus 60 in both int and fth straight up the best in its class in the dlc. Also reminder, there's multiple videos on here that prove that split damage isnt as bad at all anymore; many times just being overall better; especially if you abuse enemy weaknesses.
18:26 there is another helmet called the winged serpent helm which boosts fireknight and messmers skills but by 10% while messmers helm only boosts them by 3%. (tested it myself it gives a higher boost specific numbers are from wiki though)
ah yes, balance at last
Welcome to the DLC! Where the bosses are OP and their weapons are shit from a butt
💯💯💯
I mean I guess
@@PaulSmith-nb6md thank you for your bravery
“Are shit from a butt” implies that there are other places where shit comes out of. What secrets have you witnessed? 🤨
@@swift7842 Well, I think jellyfish's anus is also their mouth so there's that.
i dont care what you say about my giant sunflower. it got me to beat messmer. i fkn love this thing.
And you should continue to enjoy it.
@@youwy I absolutely will
Any tips? I have it at 10 and just got to messmer yesterday.
@@exalt2674Messmer requires 0 panic rolling, he will try to grab when you heal at a distance. Rolling through his spear combo worked best for me
Well, bonking dudes with a big flower is quite funny itself.
With a DLC where throwing weapons are a new mechanic, why the hell doesn't the Putrescence Cleaver have that? It should've been a frostbite heavy boomerange attack that dropped goop and shit that left ghostflame on the ground.
Fromsoft will never make good weapons because that will kill their artificial difficulty.
@@somersaultinggiraffe1901bruh there are so many op builds and weapons in these games idk what you are complaining about. Also "artificial difficulty" just because you can't just mash the same button and ignore everything else in a fight doesn't mean the difficulty is artificial.
@somersaultinggiraffe1901 lmao they have good weapons and when they make "good weapons" as you put it, any challenge is removed from the game, mohgs spear is the best example of how broken they can end up being if they become lore accurate
@@carlossssssss5492 oh I can't mash the same button and win? Explain magic builds then.
@@rangopistacho6928 then idk, just make status effects proc later, or increase the bosses health, or make it so that bosses don't stand in one place like a deer standing in front of a 300 mph truck
I actually just hate when fromsoftware gives you the coolest and best bosses ever made, and the weapon you get from them ends up being one of the worst weapons in the game, like a freaking big ass stick (great club) is better than Radahn's Greatsword (Light and Lord) and not to note they don't even give us a new moveset, they just decided to put the regular ass power stance Ultra Greatsword moveset, this is the reason why I Bloodborne is one of my favorite games, every boss weapon you get feels so good because all of them have different movesets
They should have given those bosses weapons of the new weapon types, not a bunch of greatswords and weapons we already have better ones in the base game. Also feels like most of their skills are just too slow for most of the DLC bosses who are that aggressive imo.
So many broken weapons and spells in this DLC. 90% are broken in a way that makes them useless, and 10% are broken in a way that makes them super OP. Hopefully they patch this stuff soon so there are more than a handful of fun new things to use.
And the 10% that are OP broken are the most basic-ass looking stuff. Classic Fromsoft.
People just love to complain. If you remember DS1 & Bloodborne, they had the same 1/10 ratio of OP Meta vs generic weapon.
Fact is, no other game in history has this many weapons, movesets and customizability. Balancing all these hundreds of weapons so that most of them are playable is a fantastical feat by itself
@@4Shaman Bloodborne was pretty good at having almost everything be at least on a level playing field. Saw-Cleaver/Spear and pizza cutter being outliers on the powerful side of things, and Tonitrus being... Well, Tonitrus.
It's annoying in ER, especially in this dlc, where we got a lot of cool looking weapons and moves that are just mid at best, while your run of the mill real world looking weapons are goated out of their minds.
@@4Shamanthe only bloodflame spell we get in the dlc does not cause bleed buildup. It's more than just spells being unbalanced, some of them are broken for better or for worse
@@Spike2276 iyo whats the most broken weapons that came out of the DLC? Either for PVE, PVP, or both?
13:50 The *Greatsword of Damnation’s Golden Crux* (The grab sequence) can be buffed by the *Dagger Talisman!*
Oh god, it already shreds in the coloseum with alexander shard alone, im about to make this so much worse
Only on invaders tho
it's like everything in the dlc is cool proportional to how inefficient ti is
Man, the Radahn swords are so disappointing. For how cool the final boss was they are so underwhelming
Full combo does 0 dmg compared to normal starscourge greatsword
Everything about the final boss is just so disappointing. I don't know what they were thinking.
@@cordyceps182nah just the swords
The Lord version of the sword is really good for PvP but that’s about it.
@@Toviyah1305 they are still so disappointing, like what was the need of making 2 identical swords but with different skills.
If they really wanted so hard to make 2 pair of swords they could have done one related with int/magic and one related with faith/holy.
So many option and they choose the weirdest and dumbest one
The glazing finger
That weapon looks like a pair of testicles
waltuh
„Why didn’t it get a unique moveset“. Sums up the dlc perfectly
Fact.
Not every weapon needs a unique moveset just a select few. Boss weapons have never been the best in fromsofts games but they should've been in Elden ring because they were amazing in ds3
Something cool you can try with the rellana sword is that since rellana’s sword can be on either hand, you can use the milady on the other hand with a focus on magic or fire depending on which hand you put the sword on , and you get the normal light greatsword powerstance moveset. So if you’re against an enemy who’s fire weak, you can put the sword on the left hand, and put a flame infusion milady on the right hand. Or if you prefer magic, you can infuse the milady with cold or magic and put it on the left hand, and you can still use the stance ash of war on the main hand with the magic half of rellana’s swords
A scholar and a saint, I will be trying this out immediately
I hadn't considered that before, thanks for the tip
Wait does it really work like that? I was under the impression that rellana’s basic sword was always magic and you only get the fire from two handing
@@jeremytewari3346 Yup! If you equip the weapon on the left hand and the milady on the right with a flame art, you’ll have 2 fire weapons instead of just 1 fire and 1 magic from powerstancing. Only caveat is that you cant use the rellana ash of war, but you can also just slap flame spear on the milady and now you’re gaming
@@benzoFE88 dope, always liked the twin swords but found them underwhelming, especially since bosses tend to be resistant to at least one of the two damage types, so that’s good to know!
I hope most of these weapons will be buffed
same. they are so disappointing
@@foaduk9118 some of them are ok but the scaling is bad or the dmg of the weapon art/ash of war is bad for example the weapon hit does 2k dmg and the ,,explosion” just does 800 dmg
I hope Radahn weapons get removed and fused into 1 weapon with Stance AoW, and we get new, proper 3rd reward
Think they're more bothered about nerthing stuff than boosting. Multiple things are absolutely busted in this dlc.
Hopefully or else I'm not buying another dlc. I love the dlc but the point is to have cool strong shit as well like how tf is the blasphemous stronger than all of these damn weapons combined, and it's from a gimmick fight?
This is my main concern with Elden Rind dlc. The best weapons in the game SHOULD be dlc weapons!!! We waited 2 years for me to throw everything aside just to keep using moonveil lol unacceptable! Release them overpowered and THEN adjust from there with nerfs!
Moonveil is trash compared to Rellana's twinblades
@@PaulSmith-nb6mdcap moonveil will break your stance way faster than the magic attack on rellanas blade not to mention once you do the magic attack you’re locked in place and basically asking to get hit while moonveil shoots one wave and your free to dodge again
@@PaulSmith-nb6md No, the moonveil is definitely better than that wannabe Sword of Night and Flame. The Star-Lined Sword (which has a very cool movset) is unfortunately also inferior to the Moonveil. Luckily for int builds there is the ash of war "Carian Sovereignty", which works very well with the Claymore.
@@PaulSmith-nb6mdif you’re comparing the fun factor then sure. But moonveil is:
>faster and with less end lag
>has better general scaling
>has bleed
>is more flexible
>has a more reliable moveset
I get what you are saying but moonveil is so simple that it’s just designed to be one of the best weapons in the game. Katanas are insane in elden ring compared to older souls games too
Radahns swords not having its own move set was the biggest boner killer ever bc i genuinely like the swords but dude they’re so ass and people who say they’re good are just coping ngl
They're not bad, every weapon is good if you make it good
@@sabbatize4182bad compared to their peers.
the moveset part is unfortunate but i doubt they’ll leave the weapons damage and scalings as they are. i would be incredibly surprised if there wasn’t a balance patch with how bad most of the dlc weapons and spells are
They have the move where you swing them around with light beams youwy didn't show it becuz he's STUPID
@@sabbatize4182 not every weapon is good and not every weapon is practical either. I'll take the blasphemous blade over all of these any day of the week and the sad part is that it’s not even close.
With all I have seen in this DLC... Fromsoftware was just ALL OVER THE PLACE. They had a mix of great ideas poorly implemented, and poor ideas that benefitted us greatly.
1:12 i just realized why the f fromsoft split Consort Radahn weapons into two instead combining the AOW into one as for stance type AOW lmao😂
Why? Didn’t understand honestly
Why?
Shard of Alex + Rellana talismans would be too good together?
@@glitchedporygon5426 sword of night and flame honest reaction:
@@glitchedporygon5426 Rellana's Cameo is mid tho. You're better off using only Shard and then picking a scorpion charm for the element because you won't have to wait around for the buff. They need to buff Cameo by another +10% damage, or make it give stances some hyper armor (which would be kinda OP, but idc, it would be freaking awesome if it did).
Im sitting 5 hours just to beat radahn and the only weapon i get is this😭😭😭😭
I wish Messmer's Spear was a halberd instead. Messmer himself uses it with so much agility and elegance, and weaves just as many swiping slashes into his moveset as thrusts. I love the AoW but the moveset feels like you're using a completely different weapon.
I picked the fucking thing with my dick reaching my forehead until I press R1 and it went like poke...poke...poke...end
yeah, you can realy feel the fact that mesmer was twice your size when using his spear, except with the ash of war for some reason.
Heres the funny thing: In real life.. Spears even Heavy ones are very nimble weapons. I did HEMA for a few years with a focus on Spear to Spear combat :P I dont know why Fromsoft is insisting on Spears being such slow and sluggish weapons. Sure you wont swing it around like Mesmer or during the AoW in real life but these slow ass pokes are so infuriating to me xD
Rellana's Twin Blades might be objectively meh, but in terms of style points it's S-tier.
It is t objectively meh. It is amazing.
I am a bit confused as to why elden ring, especially the dlc, gives you so many holy weapons and incantations, but makes it the worst damage type in the game. Like I get the lore reasons but I figured at least the dlc would provide some bosses weak to holy damage.
Compared to dark souls we really are missing skeletons.
I mean putrescent knight and midra are both very weak to holy, and only 2 boss are specifically resistant to holy (last boss and scadu avatar) so really not bad overall
@@Dorkyoo most of the bosses are weak to lightning to I'll tell you Knights lightning Spear with death knight set and lightning charm and other lightning buffs... Literally took about 3 fully charged casts to kill putrescent knight 😂
Bro doesn't realize like 90% of the dlc enemies are weak to holy damage 😂
Still running blasphemous blade for like 100 levels now.
I've been using sacred relic sword for most of the dlc and I don't want to. When I first saw Rellana's AOW I was so excited to try it just to be disappointed aswell with messmers spear
@@danni_pebisCrazy how npc and world weapons are better
No shit, its the most op weapon in the game. But it gets really old after a while
that sounds boring
pretty much every opportunity From had to give the player something cool they said "nah fuck 'em"
You guys ever think about how much everyone smells in the lands between i haven't seen not one shower 😂
Nah they literally got soap in the game you’re just not using it
@TheDewster69 I do unironically love the soap I like my maliketh armor set with no bloodstains at all times 🤣
The black knight armor talks about how bad it smells in the description so. Yeah it's probably awful lol.
Wearing clothes with the name soiled in it doesn't help.
Why do think they have so much perfume around?
One thing that Rellana's Twin Blade has going for them is the fact that as long as you start the stance R2 (the flaming tornado), the flaming pillars that come with it are going to erupt whatever happens.
Helped me stagger ennemies and even bosses out of their animations or even take bosses down with me as a double KO.
if its not fully off there are far less pillars than the whole combo
Little bit of advice on Rellana's Twin Blades, the physical damage benefits the most from strength and dex while the ash of war benefits pretty much exclusively from faith and intelligence. On high faith and intelligence the ash of war hits like a Mack truck, I've seen the heavy L2 do well over 6K damage on an optimized build and the light L2 can hit even harder with the appropriate stats and talismans in place.
It's definitely a weapon that requires an absurdly high level if you want to truly see it's power shine but once you do good god is it nigh unstoppable to anything and everything especially targets weak to magic or flame. I was testing it out on NG++ on my level 400 character and was just ripping through bosses and minibosses in the Lands of Shadow like they were made of wet tissue paper it's a beast
I played with a max magic dmg set up at 99 int and the light projectiles were just usable, but definetly not unstoppable or god-tier in damage. I wasn't soft-capping many stats (i had only 35 faith and 27 str), but i was on normal NG, so it should be even stronger there.
@@Spike2276 I've broken 8K with the full L2 light combo at close range, if I was making a continuous attack setup or a critical health setup I can easily see that breaking 12K in combo it goes hard
Greatsword of Radahn (Light) shouldve been replaced with (Gravity) has given the player the massive corkscrew attack with the ground slam follow up Radahn starts the fight with
Or the Meteor attack
Rellana's swords are good if you're 200+. I hope they get some adjustments in the future, though. I really like how the sword looks.
Absolutely criminal the putrescense cleaver is not a hex weapon. Also, no ghost flame trailing you during spins? It's such a shame for such a cool looking weapon.
Mohg has a better weapon than every boss in the DLC lol
Not wrong 😆
Rellana’s twinblades are mid… Literally the whole gimmick of the weapon is Int/Fth and does trash damage on my lvl 165 build with 50 Int and 72 Fth wasted potential 🤦🏿 damage scaling is laughable in Int/Fth
Beated all but the final boss with Rellana's twin blades.
The basic moveset is just really cool and does decent damage. The weapon art does take it's time to come out and doesn't do that much damage to compensate but the fire attack it's good to stagger enemies like the jumping disk enemies or the Mesmer fire enemies.
I'm just in love with the basic moveset. Sad that that's the only weapon in the list which gets a cool new moveset.
The damage is insane though lol
Waiting for tier list of all DLC weapons😏
The greatsword of radahn is so bad I almost thought it was bugged when I was using it
so basically near every boss weapon is just to flex with so nice looking animation but with everything else is BS?
Thoughts on Euporia? Been liking the move set, but the skill is crazy hard to activate on bosses. Not sure if I’m just using a bad build or something.
It’s not good. They need to remove the 15 second timer for that buff. It already takes long enough to gain the buff and it goes away after using the skill so I don’t understand why it needs a timer. It’s a holy twinblade so it wouldn’t even be an S tier even if they made that change. At least have it last 1 minute.
@@youwyGlad it’s not just me ha. Appreciate it. I mean bad enough have the bosses in the game have holy resistant to the nines, the buff being so hard to proc AND having a timer is wild.
@@youwyI was disappointed because I was so excited seeing the cut content weapon. Then I get it an try to test it on the potentates and they died before I could get close to level 2 with all their rolling. It sucks that most of the cool weapons are mid.
I was so fucking dissapointed when Poleblade of the Bud turned out to be less then mediocre. Greased weapons do more Rot, the AoW is trash and the dmg otherwise is fairly low. I dont know why they make innate Rot weapons so terrible :( The Moveset of the Glaive otherwise isnt even that good either.
Rate the DLC sites of grace next pls 🙏
Nearly all of the remembrance weapons in the base game were decent to top tier. Except for fire Giants Braid and Astels Bastard's Stars.
Thorn sorceries got 2 spells this expansion and one of them straight up chews the final boss for breakfast
Poleblade of the Bud was what I used to defeat Radahn since I wanted to try and force an arcane build. Perfume bottles wearn't working well for me since I never found rolling sparks. I ended up beating Radahn 2-handing the Bud and just trying to desperately learn to roll through his attacks. WIthout summons/ashes took me like 60-80 attempts and the scarlet rot never even went off during phase 2 since he was so resistant and I was playing safe so that whole idea went to waste. I really just wish the special did a lot more buildup and had hyper armour.
Yes a littel more hyper amour and higher rot build upp. its such a cool weapond art and i decided to get good with it besides its weakneses
@@matalden9363 or just functional arcane scaling. It has to be an oversight
I cna't hel;p but think they forgot that rot doesn't scale with arcane, maybe same for the putrescence thingy too.
@@darthkarl99 probably not the case with putrescence cleaver, default frost weapons in Elden Ring have always been worse at applying frost then frost infused weapons by a substantial margin.
i wish more of the boss had weapons that were in the new weapon classes, there is just rellana and then they just spammed the same three classes that they always put the boss weapons in while all the new classes have like three weapons each. like romina could have given us a rot perfume bottle, or divine beast could have given some lightning bolt throwing weapon.
Honestly love that you get a choice of an ash of war or a talisman definitely one of the best remembrances in the game they should actually do more of that instead of giving us weak incants and shit weapons
The worst thing about this is we basically have to cross our fingers and hope these weapons/spells get meaningful buffs in the coming weeks.
really love the reskinned star scourge greatsword with the int requirement and same animations we needed 3 :D
Radhan's swords are my babies, they carried me through most of the base game as a STR boy.
Just meet the INT requirement, go full STR and that's it and you still deals a lot with the AOW being amazing against small groups.
The DLC ones are just its bastard and disabled children...
@@jacktheripper7935 lol
it really is disappointing. Some of the bosses are actually really cool but the weapons just don't match their energy at all. I feel like there isn't much to explore either, just a lot of empty areas. Compared to the base game and how much content there is, SOTE just isn't even worth the $40
Somthing also important to note with Spear of the Impaler, the charged heavy attack does a fire explosion, which is also possible while riding torrent. idk why but i find this weapons move set to actually be incredibly OP atm. not only is it a great spear, which means the new shield wall build is probably meta right now.
Not that far into the game but honestly have felt the same about most of the "Named" items including things like Rakshasa's Great Katana. Like why would I ever use that when I could use the normal Great Katana, get really good scaling off Heavy or Keen, give it a sick ash of war, AND buff it with bloodflame?
If their ashes of war were really cool like Dryleaf then that would make up for the shortcomings but like you pointed out in this video, a lot of them are either totally mid or else have HUGE drawbacks
Rakshasas great katana gets hyperarmour
Fair enough haha though personally I don't feel like that makes up for its shortcomings
I think a lot of these can be quite easily fixed with just a couple numbers tweaks, like most of the dlc spells which just need better damage/speed/hyper-armour, but what really bothers me is the Radahn greatswords which are just weird and stupid, they really should get merged into one weapon, which just wont happen, and the fact that the final ER boss weapon is just copypasted Starscourde PGS is gotta be the saddest thing ever. But hey, never say never I guess.
Still can't believe we got a reused boss as a FINAL DLC boss, and we get armour that already exists (with different hairstyle) and 2 copies of weapon that already exist as a reward 🤣
Goated video goated streamer day 7
The spear is very nice for just running around the world with the throwing option when you wanna be a little bit lazy or you hate bows.
I use heavy thrusting swords constantly, sword lance is leagues above every other heavy thrusting sword
I find it funny how the 2 weapons FightinCowboy hyped up are in the bottom 3. Dude just keeps showing the community how little he actually knows about the game as much as he makes out he knows everything.
After defeating Messmer, I immediatly thought I wanted that Spear. The way he moves with it, he style, the flow, it seemed like everything I wanted from one (I usually don't like Polearms because they feel kinda boring to me).
I immediately got it, looked at it and Look how they massacared my Boy.
Everything about the DLC is really good, but its a bit weird how the Ashes of War and the Base Weapons somehow outclass the Boss weapons. Aside from Rellanas Twinblades, I will never get tired of that.
Mesmer spear skill is basically identical to Mesmer combo. I personally like it a lot
The spear does literally what he does in the fight lmao. Are you expecting from soft to give you boss movesets?
@@mercylavigne they do it for relanna, why not for Messmer ?
Back in my day the light combo moves were uniqued for boss weapons@mercylavigne
@@nolis6637 what they do for Relanna is the same they to for Messmer, boss moveset in the ash of war, normal moveset for Relanna weapon is not the same moveset the boss has so i dont get the hate, personally I loved Messmer spear
I’m disappointed with every weapon they added in the dlc. There are some cool ones sure, but like 99 weapons or more and there’s none that I’m excited to do a build with. Some that look cool just suck. I feel like no cool weapons have good scaling at all. Idk maybe I haven’t seen everything but to me it seems lacking
The Smithscript weapons get like 200 more damage on int and faith infusions than any other weapon in their class.
I really really liked the Midra fight and the whole aesthetic of the Manse. My favorite Elden Ring area and boss I think.
How come Radahn's sword doesn't emit 7000 holy attacks that blind my opponents and poise stagger them to death every time I swing it? Doesn't work as advertised FROM
The XBox One and PS4 couldn't handle it.
The one thing that disappointed me so much was how bad the remembrances were. They did so bad with them
Wdym
Severe overreaction 😂 they were as good as the base game
I can live with that because the fights were sick. Also we got already more than enough good stuff
What do u mean?
... they're literally like the base game tf you're on about.
A lot of the remembrance weapons feel like they're oriented for higher levels than 120-150.
Trust me they are not. I am a max level and they still suck.
Well I am enjoying using rellana 's weapons. They are amazing no matter what anyone says. I am destroying several things with them and if my sorry ass can do that, then better players can do even better work
@@DEMON_SUNGOD how tf are u max level. ong even at ng+7 , all rune buffs and doing the best rune farm it will take days to get enough runes
@foaduk9118 Been playing since day one and just kept levelling. I did the relic sword farm for almost 100 hours.
@@DEMON_SUNGODI think he means u can’t use these weapons at lvls lower than 120 and I agree too much requirements in diff categories n then some for dmg while trying to keep high endurance or vigor.
I wish the frost greataxe was better. The weapon is kind of big but since it’s a ridiculous curve it gives the weapon no reach. I feel like if you have a colossal weapon with low range then I expect above average damage to compensate for the downsides
I have a very special place in my heart for the sunflower because it was the weapon which got me the win against consort.
Yeah the ash of war is useless because i used the charged attack tailsmans and physic also the holy physic.
But not the holy scop because i found out that useing it consort 3 hit combo will one shot you.
So using fully charged attacks can deal like 4k in his first phase and 2k or 3k in his second.
Shadow sunflower is goated and I will not stand for this blasphemy
The Sword Lance saved my ass vs the final boss. Stuck bleed on it and hid behind my shield, haha. It kept me from having to spend a larval tear on a dex respec, so I appreciated it.
Now than the "grandiosity" of it has worn off a bit, man, Radahn being the final DLC boss was kind of a waste, huh? It was a nice bit of fanservice, and I think that, particle effects aside, they absolutely nailed the atmosphere. But considering the small list of extremely impactful characters they could have used (Godwyn, Gloam-Eyed Queen, or hell, just Miquella himself), Radahn seems like an odd choice -- and it's not like anything hinted at him ever being Miquella's "promised consort" in the vanilla game. His Remembrance weapons being absolute filler is the rotten cherry on top.
We are slowly approaching the DLC boss ranking video.
Dude, it's a sword LANCE. Ofc it's gonna share moves with the lance. And btw, the weapon is still top tier (it's definitely better than Messmer's spear, that's for sure) without the HTS running heavy. It's like getting served the best slice of cheesecake in the world, but you're just not happy about it because there wasn't a cherry on top. It's absolutely dominating in pvp as well. It has a guaranteed follow up on it's (hyper armor) heavy. Try putting cragblade on it, and check out the ridiculous amount of damage you can pump out with it. Genuinely one of the best weapons in the dlc.
The DLC weapons are so disappointing, how did they end up lower quality than the base game
Conclusion? They all kinda suck and appear non tested, which was expected given they patched and tweaked all weapons from the base game throughout it's lifecycle, and not just dmg, no no, they tweaked everything at everything, swing speed, recovery time, damage, range etc. They also tweaked almost all spells and all armors. Funny how this happened AGAIN :)
And it's not just bad balancing in terms of weapons sucking, Solitary moonlight greatsword is...just disgusting, i am currently using it, it has A strength scaling and D in dex which is insane, and at my 23 dex and 65 strength it has 294 + 502 AR scaling, just disgusting, not even colossal weapons have that scaling, wanna know the most hilarious part? it also has 89% physical dmg negation while guarding =))) bro is better than most medium shields like what?