The biggest sin committed by Snyder's DC movies was deleting Henry Cavill's charm. Watch that guy in interviews! He is a genuinely perfect choice for Superman and he was directed in a way that eliminated the natural charisma that radiates from him. Seriously, he's pretty charming.
As you got to the underwear bit, I was struck by the thought “Joel Schumacher understood this point. He understood how important it was to add levity, silliness, dorkiness, to not take oneself too seriously.” And I miss him even more now, because if he were still alive, I’d start a riot to see him and Snyder, forced to make a DC movie together, with exactly equal amounts of control. It would create the perfect movie. Plus, the documentary of the behind the scenes would be amazing too.
The problem with Schumacher was the total 180° that was done with the franchise and gawdaweful writing. If the writing been just a *bit* better and the shift not so hard it would've been better received. People REALLY liked Burton's edge lord Batman. But he was well written
8:10 that put perfectly. I absolutely hate the whole "Superman couldn't possibly be a nice person with so much power" narrative I've seen a lot of, some of it even making it's way into mainstream media (Homelander). The whole point of Superman is that he IS a good person, despite his power, it's what makes him a good role model.
its what makes him an interesting fictional character but id argue his power is not part of what makes him a good role model and as we all should known in the real world absolute power corrupts absolutely. we should strive to be as helpful and as kind as superman not as stronk.
It's not necessarly that Kal-El wouldn't be a nice person with his power, it's that most other people wouldn't be. Not to mention most of time when we see "Evil Supermen" in media it's showing you what would have happened had Clark not been raised in a loving enviornment that shaped him into the hero he is. Homelander was raised in a lab and treated like a subject, Omni-Man was raised by a planet of conqurers. The only one who can be compared to the upringing of Clark is Brandon from Brightburn and even then he was being influenced by outside alien forces, even though that plot kinda sucked.
@@wesleywyndam-pryce5305yeah, Superman just radiates friendly energy while the evil version of him you know they look familiar but something is off with them and it is unsettling and unnerving.
16:35: *THANK. YOU.* I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS AND NO ONE SEEMS TO LISTEN. You can’t assume your audience knows the characters onscreen when you’re introducing them. *Especially* when you’re doing a supposedly alternative take on said character.
@Ryan Richards which would be an almost valid point if the Snyderverse was an Elseworlds story and not an adaptation. Elseworlds stories are experiments with characters to examine how they would function in a different setting, like an alternate future like Kingdom Come, a different time period like Gotham by Gaslight, or even a different region like Red Son. In any case, there’s a clear distinction that this is not the story we know. But apart from that, if you’re reading an Elseworlds comic, it’s a safe assumption that *you probably already read comics.* The problem, like Scott says, is that Snyder wants to have it both ways. He wants to make his own moodier versions of these characters while also expecting you to have enough knowledge of them already to fill in the gaps in storytelling. It’s contrived and lazy character writing.
@@supermagnumable his vision of what? Of already established characters. That is called an adaptation. I swear I yet have to meet one Snyder fan that is not at the same time completely obnoxious or condescending while saying something absolutely ignorant or stupid.
oh so THATS why he was named that. It was because he was originally a detective in the comics. ... honestly its baffling that they kept it so long. They thought up the great name of Mindhunter and just slapped it on one of the evil batmen instead of the character who has needed a rebrand for years.
@@Fanatic_Foremem Also I feel like the fact that he is the (or one of the, Ms. Martian) member of his species left in the universe should probably be reflected in his codename. I know Superman has that too, but "Everyone on Krypton, a fake planet, is dead" doesn't have quite the same ring as "all the cliche Martians from the 50s, *they're dead*"
A "manhunter" is a detective, J'onn was originally called "Manhunter from Mars" and he was published in Detective Comics, he's a detective, his name means he's a detective; and I hate that writers forgot that and make it scary
It would be like if he was called the Martian Dick. Nobody calls detectives that anymore, so it wouldn't make s wer nse if he called himself that anymore with that explanation.
@@DylweedWasTaken11 that's not what I meant, I meant he's a fucking detective and I'd like it if someone focused on that instead of making convulated explanations for his name
@@DylweedWasTaken11 I'd produce a movie titled Martian Dick, but that would absolutely not be R-rated, we are so going for NC-17. Full frontal martian nudity, this is what we need, this is what Hollywood needs.
Martian Manhunter is my favourite superhero. I like he idea that he can fit in a noir story, or a world ending story equally well. A common vulnerability means a normal thug with a 2 penny pack of matches is a threat but he is also powerful enough to go toe-to-toe with the likes of Black Adam
Dude, all that stuff you said about the author's responsibility to communicate properly, that was 100% accurate. I'm a writer myself, and I pride myself on writing stories with deep ideas that are understood easily without rubbing it in the reader's face. Writing is a careful craft, where you have to linger on important ideas, not hide them behind a bunch of obtuse language, yet also not exposit every detail. That's the real way you can tell a good writer from a bad one.
The irony of the “reader must do all the work” mentality is what is a story but a form of communication? If the message isn’t clear aren’t you failing at that communication?
The Strongman trunks were never lame to me, just a mystery of costume origin and the assumption that it was to keep his "super bits" from showing through the spandex till i found out what it was inspired by.
@@Samantha_yyz Doesn't he have boxers in a lot of adaptations? Idk. I mainly think of the films, New 52 and such where they did just all blue with maybe a red belt, it's a nice idea but it does look like something's missing, I don't know if I'd think that if that had just been Superman's design from the beginning though.
This might be the only video on the internet that utilizes James Joyce's 'Ulysses' to advocate for wearing red underwear on the outside. Scott, my dude, you are a World Champion for this one. Amazing work. Three cheers for approachable, silly Superman!
I would personally have preferred if we got the underpants in the real film... I think the trunks are an important part of the character, this is a good fix. superman is a big softboi himbo and I love him. he is just a big wholesome boy.
@Zac Adkins yeah yknow it's a basic rule of art. Break up colours to make a design more readable. It also makes a character less named by giving them a clear shirt, trousers, boots deviding line.
@@ianleex6874 yeah you are Technically right. The trunks don't change the characters. When done well the red belt can be just as effective at breaking up the colours and can also look really good. I think Superman is a character bound by wholesome optimism and the trunks would be/are a great encapsulation of the character in our current year. All the other trinity heroes have changed a lot, Batman wears armor now to protect his body and the classic blue cape and cowl of before are long gone. Wonder woman no longer has the leotard and now wears the skirt to show her more amazonian warrior side that has been adopted over the years. The trunks while silly looking give off an aloofness to the man of Steel. A fact that he knows its a little silly but the cape and trunks have a way of putting folks at ease. It adds a hopeful youthful innocent look to him that just makes me smile. When all these other heroes end up rejecting some of their design elements in favour of a more realistic look superman still rocks a pair of red trunks.
Honestly, the scene you described sounds awesome, it would have been amazing to see. Kind of wish we did. Also, Superman being a big smiling dork is kind of like the perfect description of him.
Loved the video. The reason there isn't a scene showing the suit powering him up is because the producers didn't accepted the black suit in pre-production, but Snyder wanted to make it anyway, even if Cavill wasn't going to shoot any new scenes
@@dignerds With our hero still in muted colors, and continuing from Scott's point that in Snyder League blue=evil black=good it's the battle Superman pretty much loses while the US military attacks him as well Zod's army. In the final battle, where Superman wins and the military is working with him it's all dark with only one dramatic lighting moment for Supes to get a power boost.
@@jedisuperman5 actually in the comics they break up the color balance to keep superman looking like, well, superman. Too much blue there lead to a chain of design changes to where he looks more vilainous. They might not be needed but the red does need to be distributed in a way that works in a similar matter and design teams are just making work harder on themselves by removing that element from his design.
@@Roper122 Batman used to have trunks. Flash's eye-holes have changed, the green on green Lantern's costume no longer covers his crotch like trunks, Shazam's cape is longer, Robin lost the pixie boots, etc. I could go on. Costumes are tweaked over time. Why are the trunks so vital to some people's perception of Superman? Hell, the 'S' itself has evolved!
I loved your Bob Ross video, it made me cry. And I cried knowing your painting was just for you and that we'd never see it and I'm tearing up now when you trolled us. Thank you for your work.
I thought you were going to say Superman shows up in the black suite but with a red cape. That would be kinda neat, combineing the human and the kryptonian suits together.
Hanging the painting above the set is probably the best thing I've seen yet, Absolutely petty and I love it. I'm glad you arnt compromising on that promise to yourself scott. 👍 Glad to see you back in action!
I mean you can just assume he used it to absorb more sun and become stronger. But they should have had him wearing his normal suit under his street clothes at the end of the movie
@@kdub3288 I mean......It would’ve made the future scenes where he’s evil seem more legit if he was in his red and blue suit like in the vision that Cyborg had and Batman’s first and second nightmare.
When you walked away from your tea in the intro I immediately said "nooooo". out loud. Thankfully my dad (only other person in the room) is in a zoom call so is sufficiently distracted as to not have noticed. (that bit also reminded me to drink my own tea, which is sitting on my desk by my hand and yet I STILL forget to drink)
Superman is the dad we think can do everything, will always be there when we need him, but will still get silly and goofy to make us smile. Your video, as always, is so on point.
*I love the story you made; I would change one thing.* *Instead of the morning sun powering Supes, it makes him aware of who he is. He apologizes and has a fast chat with Bruce, he hugs Lois, and finally he flys away into the sunrise. We see the JLA fighting and losing, cut to superman basking next to the sun with his eyes closed reflecting on his fathers words. We see Batman cry out "Clark!". Supermans eyes open in an instant and fly to earth in seconds through meteors, leaves a vapor trail in the atmosphere, and smashes through the evil fortresses wall.*
Personally I would have him power up, fight the League a little bit. Then, he rises into the air, prepares to heat vision his buddies, then he looks around, sees his city, his friends, his girlfriend, realizes what he's doing, and kinda... wordlessly recoils at how he's acting, then flies away
22:24 is such a brilliant way to explain why most school required reading is so insufferable. We spend so long trying to analyze the difficult, confusing, and complex book when it really could just be badly written. The themes and morals take so much analysis to understand that it’s really just bad writing
24:45 That revelation actually made me burst out laughing. The setup and the way you said it, and then I thought "Well... Yeah.. I guess that does fix it." and then I literally burst out laughing.
Oh wow, that's actually a great solution! I always thought that Superman being shirtless in the movie was only because, well, people love a shirtless beefcake like Henry Cavill. If his burial suit could be shed off of him, why the heck did his pants stayed on? Again, because we just were assumed to come to see Superman because it's Henry Cavill. A beautiful guy, indeed, but hm... 🙃
My take on the black suit is that it was supposed to be a sort of juxtaposition to the Man of Steel scene. While yes, that suit was framed as something that would lead to tragedy, here it is actually flipped on its head and is instead being used to bring hope, cause that’s what Superman does. Dude could probably rock up to a battle in his pajamas and he’d still invoke a feeling of hope. Snyder also pointed out that the black suit was meant to actually represent Superman’s character arc, where he felt as though he needed to earn the red and blue suit that his father entrusted to him. It was apparently going to take two movies before he got the classic suit back which would’ve been symbolical of the Man of Steel we all know and love being truly back. Unfortunately, it seems unlikely that we’ll be getting to see that due to Warner having 0 interest in the Synder verse, which is kind of unfortunate but I’m still happy we at least got to see the Synder cut at all.
I thought you were going to lean the painting backwards against the wall... or reveal that it was superman with red trunks the whole time! My favorite internet troll right here.
Zack snyder said that "His black suit represents where Superman is in the storyline of his character. He needs to do some work before he can work his way back into the classic red and blue". Basically saying that since Superman has been reborn after failing to be the earth's protector, he needs to earn his way back into the red and blue. ALSO, Superman's red and blue suit still has a giant hole in the middle sooooo he needed a costume change anyway. 🤷🏾♂️
I love watching you again, we missed you. Aside from the video, wich is excellent content, I wanna point out the extreme production value overhaul this channel got. I loved the editing, I loved the photography, everything was amazing. Thanks for making quality content for us stranger nerds on the internet!
The way I read into the whole black suit was more of a change in superman where he decides "he's not gonna die again holding back" and instead when its needed he won't hold back to protect himself and the ones he loves
This is such a good analysis of Superman. I've been saying for a long time that his greatest power isn't his strength, but his ability to inspire others. And yeah, his costume is a huge part of that. His black suit worked for his resurrection in the comics, sure, but the red and blue with always be the colors of optimism and joy. Another great video, Scott. You knocked it out of the park once again! Also oh my god I was not prepared for that painting twist at the end.
I’m so glad to see you’re back and doing comic book-related videos again! I’ve missed your content and I’m stoked to hear you talk nerd to me on a regular basis!
What I think the intended idea was that 1. As suggested in the ship scene, it represented both his human and Kryptonian sides. It symbolized Humanity through the black (as stated in the book he read). Meanwhile, black also symbolizes the Kryptonian heritage, meaning black symbolizes both human’s humanity and Krypton at once. 2. The other part is that at this point in his character arc, I get the sense that all he wants to do is be who he really is, pure like the black suit. The Red and Blue was chosen by Jor-El to be a symbol of hope on his new world. But perhaps Superman is no longer trying to be this godly symbol for everyone to look up to. He seemed to be fighting with that idea in Batman V Superman, and now that he has died in order to achieve that ideal, it is no longer the center of importance for him. In contrast to that, the Justice League’s purpose in bringing him back was because he was a symbol of hope and, well, muscle power. They still saw him as that but Kal-El didn’t. He still wanted to do what was right, save the planet but also represent that he is the cross of both heritages. A symbol of his innermost identity, but perhaps not be the ultimate symbol of hope. 6. Lastly I’ll also say that in Man of Steel, Kal-El’s nightmare suit and Zod’s zuits both being black could perhaps not exactly be a symbol of Krypton but of their goals to keep or restore their respective cultures. For Zod Black represented his people, but all he wanted was his people back to give himself a sense of purpose. The black represented his connection to restoring his species. Kal-El wore black to represent humanity in the time of Earth’s genocide, showing his struggle to keep human kind alive. Again, being symbolic of the innermost intentions of these characters.
I felt EXACTLY the same when watching the movie. The color of his suit is logically reversed. He should be wearing a black version of the suit in the end credits nightmare sequence, and a red and blue suit in the rest of the movie. It's the ONE thing that the Joss version got right.
Scott!! Love to see a 40 minute NerdSync video pop up. One thing though, for some reason looking at the thumbnail, I thought this wouldn’t be a regular video, but more of a podcast highlights thing (by the way, bring back the Nerdsync podcast). Maybe it’s the lower border, I don’t know
Your videos genuinely make me so happy. I get so excited when I see this channel in my notifications. Your bob ross video was probably in my top 5 TH-cam videos of all time.
I'd be ok with the black suit if the film explained why he needed it. He walked past a red and blue suit, but chose the black. Why? The film never explains it and he honestly didn't need it. He technically came back at full power so what's the need to regenerate?
A cool visual technique for showing the ability of the Recovery suit would be if it retains it’s slightly shiny appearance in lower light, but turns completely matte black and almost formless like Vantablack in direct sunlight. Showing that it activated to absorb ALL light that hits it and allowing none to escape, like a black hole! Then later on during the end of the movie the fight takes place in partial light or night time so the suit could look normal and Hollywoo shiny again. That would be pretty dope, especially if the ‘S’ glowed a tiny bit or something… I also agree on ditching the cape unless it was obvious that the cape acted as extra surface area for sunlight.
I just realized something. Why Superman was so aggressive when he was brought back. The motherbox is explained as restoring someone or something to a previous point, in this case restoring Superman to right before his death. And Superman was in the middle of battle when he died. So he's being restored to that point.
34:12 Going to assume that I fully fell for the misdirect. I was expecting you to say the Black suit, but adding the red cape to have the hybrid approach. Well played :D
At 34:12, I thought this was going in a different direction. The most recent visual was Clark as a child, playing superhero while wearing jeans and a tshirt. You say Superman shouldn't wear his black suit during the climax. "Instead, he's wearing his classic red and blue costume with one small addition..." First, I was thinking the change was that his costume would have been made by Martha. That's a classic part of Superman's mythos that got lost in this adaptation, and it would have been a way to combine Clark's Kryptonian heritage with his Earth culture. Then I was thinking that maybe the costume he gets from Martha could be a T-shirt with jeans and a cape, a throwback to that scene in Man of Steel and a reference to the times Superman wore a T-shirt as his "costume" in the comics. But then you made it about silly briefs. Everyone's always talking about these damn silly briefs.
I think that the suit represents the endurance of hope most of all. In the dark of the whole suit, the dark and the fear that can bring someone down, however, you can still see the symbol of El, the symbol of hope. That even in the darkest of moments hope can still live in those moments. Zods suit is all black while that little speck of white on Clarks made all the difference in the belief that times would get better. That one day people could look at today and say it's a good day without reservation.
I don’t know… that’s a pretty dark suit. Can’t really make out the S. I think they just wanted the brownie points. Pandering is pandering. Not always down for good reasons but eh. What are you gonna do?
@@AnimatedTerror It's a silver S against a black background, any more shiny and it would have stood out like a sore thumb. I think it was done just right.
Meh.🤷♀️. The S doesn't become a symbol of hope just because it was exposited. There's nothing throughout the DCEU that _shows_ that it is a symbol of hope. We are only told so. Through all the many movies all we hear is people complaining about Superman .
As a Snyder-bot I really enjoyed this video. I always love how you approach things you dislike or such and it's always fun and in good faith. I really dig your rewrite idea a LOT
the initial script that had the black suit probably also had some context for it. that wasnt what got shot because wb wanted bright and colorful superman. so when zack retroactively added in the black suit, he wasn't able to add in that reasoning. mainly because henry wasn't available for reshoots.
Personally, even though there wasn’t much to imply the significance of the black suit in the film, I liked to see its significance in the crest on the chest of the suit. Sure, most of the suit is black and has more of a darker feel to it, but the crest of the House of El stands out so much more to me in comparison to the traditional red and blue. Because it is a bright silver color against the deep black of the suit, the literal symbol of hope stands stronger than before, especially and conveniently in a time where sections of the world have that giant, silver symbol planted on structures for everyone to see. It also somewhat reminds me of an explanation for the symbol of the Kingdom Come suit, where the red of it cuts through the darkness behind it as a further symbol of hope. Also, I think that the change Scott made was pretty genius. I will say that I am unsure how Lois would have acquired the black suit to bury him in or why the suit with the classic trunks would stand out to Superman (regardless of how great and cheesy that design choice would be), but I think it would work really well to hit pretty much every check mark the fans wanted. Black suit after death, it greatly increases the absorption of sunlight, and it ends with the traditional red and blue suit. Overall great video, and glad to see Scott with his first video of 2021 almost halfway through the year!
The black suit represents his humanity because his grave was marked with a silver S on a black background (unlike his dark vision costume which was wholly black so it’s not the same suit). It represents his humanity because it represents the fact that he is not invincible like everyone believes. It shows everyone that even he can die, just like them. It contrasts the power of his Kryptonian side with the mortality of his human side. To be clear I don’t know that Zack meant it this way, but that’s how I see it and it makes sense to me.
You're incredibly astute. That's exactly what Snyder intended as per an interview with Esquire magazine: ESQ: Except for when they do. True. What's the story behind Superman's black suit? Snyder: It comes from Death of Superman of course. But I'm also into this Robert Bly book The Red, White, and Black. The white of naivety, the red of anger, and the black of humanity. I just felt like the black suit is really symbolic of that as well.
so do you really think he's strong enough to make a difference? oh yes he can make a difference alright. but its not just how strong he is. he has this incredible feeling about him. when he's around you feel like everything is going to be okay. and with him it always is
You know... I really do love that there’s so many people who love Superman the same length that I love him. He honestly gives me so much hope that I can truly do something, do ANYTHING in life, accomplish ANYTHING. Superman has made an impact in my life, maybe not as big as Spider-Man, but he still truly gives me hope and has changed my life, in a positive manner. Plus he’s also an entire immigrant story, so the fact that some people don’t catch that honestly upsets me since literally anyone can see themselves as Clark. Like how there will be a black Superman soon, which honestly I’m excited about because more representation for the black community. And if anyone says, “why make it political?” I will drop kick you in the throat. I digress; Superman gives me hope, and the trunks on the outside is iconic and should be used again.
18:46 While Superman may be powerful enough to take down the league seconds after he's brought back to life, he didn't know what was happening. I know that you brought up that he was disoriented and was still powerful, but I believe there's more to it. After getting his memories back and talking with Lois and Martha, he says that the league brought him back for a reason. Now, he has no idea what's going on and is going into battle blind against someone who may pose a serious threat against Earth. Superman knew this was a code red emergency if the league wanted to bring him back to life. So, he has to make sure that he's bringing in enough extra strength to make sure that he could help the league win.
Quality and thoughtful analysis as always, Scott. This is why I cannot unsubscribe from you, No matter how long it takes you to make a video! Really happy to hear your thoughts on this. Please keep up the good work.
Here's how I view the costume. It's mainly black to symbolize that the Justice League perceive their situation as utterly hopeless, with the only silver (white) part being the symbol of hope. It's important that the S is the only silver part to give the feeling that even in the darkest, most helpless times there can be a bright beam of hope. In other words, Superman is hope (the silver house of El logo) and the Apokolips army are despair (darkness or blackness).
Steppenwolf in this movie reminds me of Magog in Kingdom come. Who was described as an excessive and ugly rob liefeld design. Steppenwolf came straight from the 90s with his spikes. He’s just missing a massive amount of pouches
The black suit in Man of Steel isn't identical to the one in Justice League. The S is more prominent, pops more because of its silver shade. You know where else we see this? On Superman's military coffin in BvS and on the giant banner in London in Justice League. This Silver S with a black backdrop is how humanity chose to remember him. I thought that's why he chose the suit 🤷🏼♂️ I thought it represented the version of him that humanity finally accepted.
Honestly I agree with Scott on this one. As much in loved seeing the black suit as a comic fan but the narrative context for it wasn't there so I was confused when he didn't just use the readily available red and blue.
Damn, kind of wish THIS video was 4 hours long...
I am certain the true higher-ups at NerdSync meddled with his artistic vision!
#releasethescottcut
Someone please send NerdSync's video to Zack Snyder
@@wisespidey I'd be down to watch a 6 hour long SnyderCut2.0 feat. NerdSync :)
How to play NerdSync in Dungeons and Dragons when?
This video was trash
The biggest sin committed by Snyder's DC movies was deleting Henry Cavill's charm. Watch that guy in interviews! He is a genuinely perfect choice for Superman and he was directed in a way that eliminated the natural charisma that radiates from him.
Seriously, he's pretty charming.
Idk that vision sequence seemed pretty happy to me...
I love the you made an account just for this joke.
@@Geck0GC what do u mean? Everyone knows that is zods official account
@@spadessongs your right my bad
How's the neck
Did you find him?
As you got to the underwear bit, I was struck by the thought “Joel Schumacher understood this point. He understood how important it was to add levity, silliness, dorkiness, to not take oneself too seriously.”
And I miss him even more now, because if he were still alive, I’d start a riot to see him and Snyder, forced to make a DC movie together, with exactly equal amounts of control. It would create the perfect movie.
Plus, the documentary of the behind the scenes would be amazing too.
When Schumacher gets the DC franchise better than you there’s a problem lol
Lmao, Joel Schumacher did not understand any of that, he was competely terrible.
The problem with Schumacher was the total 180° that was done with the franchise and gawdaweful writing.
If the writing been just a *bit* better and the shift not so hard it would've been better received. People REALLY liked Burton's edge lord Batman. But he was well written
8:10 that put perfectly. I absolutely hate the whole "Superman couldn't possibly be a nice person with so much power" narrative I've seen a lot of, some of it even making it's way into mainstream media (Homelander). The whole point of Superman is that he IS a good person, despite his power, it's what makes him a good role model.
its what makes him an interesting fictional character but id argue his power is not part of what makes him a good role model and as we all should known in the real world absolute power corrupts absolutely. we should strive to be as helpful and as kind as superman not as stronk.
It's not necessarly that Kal-El wouldn't be a nice person with his power, it's that most other people wouldn't be. Not to mention most of time when we see "Evil Supermen" in media it's showing you what would have happened had Clark not been raised in a loving enviornment that shaped him into the hero he is. Homelander was raised in a lab and treated like a subject, Omni-Man was raised by a planet of conqurers. The only one who can be compared to the upringing of Clark is Brandon from Brightburn and even then he was being influenced by outside alien forces, even though that plot kinda sucked.
@@wesleywyndam-pryce5305 Most of my favorite superman stories are about him doing good things in nonsuperpowered ways.
@@wesleywyndam-pryce5305yeah, Superman just radiates friendly energy while the evil version of him you know they look familiar but something is off with them and it is unsettling and unnerving.
16:35: *THANK. YOU.* I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS AND NO ONE SEEMS TO LISTEN.
You can’t assume your audience knows the characters onscreen when you’re introducing them. *Especially* when you’re doing a supposedly alternative take on said character.
@Ryan Richards which would be an almost valid point if the Snyderverse was an Elseworlds story and not an adaptation. Elseworlds stories are experiments with characters to examine how they would function in a different setting, like an alternate future like Kingdom Come, a different time period like Gotham by Gaslight, or even a different region like Red Son. In any case, there’s a clear distinction that this is not the story we know. But apart from that, if you’re reading an Elseworlds comic, it’s a safe assumption that *you probably already read comics.*
The problem, like Scott says, is that Snyder wants to have it both ways. He wants to make his own moodier versions of these characters while also expecting you to have enough knowledge of them already to fill in the gaps in storytelling. It’s contrived and lazy character writing.
@@PhantomLantern2814 Snyder’s movies were never adaptations lol they were HIS VISION
@@supermagnumable his vision = his adaptation. Making it sound more pretentious doesn’t change that it’s an adaptation.
@Ryan Richards he's willfully ignorant to what you're trying to say. Just ignore him. It still should have been explained In universe.
@@supermagnumable his vision of what? Of already established characters. That is called an adaptation.
I swear I yet have to meet one Snyder fan that is not at the same time completely obnoxious or condescending while saying something absolutely ignorant or stupid.
Martian Manhunter would only make sense if he was supposed to be a detective.
oh so THATS why he was named that. It was because he was originally a detective in the comics.
... honestly its baffling that they kept it so long. They thought up the great name of Mindhunter and just slapped it on one of the evil batmen instead of the character who has needed a rebrand for years.
@@Fanatic_Foremem Also I feel like the fact that he is the (or one of the, Ms. Martian) member of his species left in the universe should probably be reflected in his codename. I know Superman has that too, but "Everyone on Krypton, a fake planet, is dead" doesn't have quite the same ring as "all the cliche Martians from the 50s, *they're dead*"
In spanish, he is called "Martian Detective" "Detective Marciano".
Weren't you really hoping for detective Pikachu though
He is
A "manhunter" is a detective, J'onn was originally called "Manhunter from Mars" and he was published in Detective Comics, he's a detective, his name means he's a detective; and I hate that writers forgot that and make it scary
It would be like if he was called the Martian Dick. Nobody calls detectives that anymore, so it wouldn't make s wer nse if he called himself that anymore with that explanation.
@@DylweedWasTaken11 that's not what I meant, I meant he's a fucking detective and I'd like it if someone focused on that instead of making convulated explanations for his name
@@DylweedWasTaken11 I'd produce a movie titled Martian Dick, but that would absolutely not be R-rated, we are so going for NC-17. Full frontal martian nudity, this is what we need, this is what Hollywood needs.
Martian Manhunter is my favourite superhero. I like he idea that he can fit in a noir story, or a world ending story equally well. A common vulnerability means a normal thug with a 2 penny pack of matches is a threat but he is also powerful enough to go toe-to-toe with the likes of Black Adam
That bird sang beautifully... 😦😢
Dude, all that stuff you said about the author's responsibility to communicate properly, that was 100% accurate. I'm a writer myself, and I pride myself on writing stories with deep ideas that are understood easily without rubbing it in the reader's face. Writing is a careful craft, where you have to linger on important ideas, not hide them behind a bunch of obtuse language, yet also not exposit every detail. That's the real way you can tell a good writer from a bad one.
The irony of the “reader must do all the work” mentality is what is a story but a form of communication? If the message isn’t clear aren’t you failing at that communication?
I always love these videos, but "Alien McHumanmurderer" freaking got me! Really awesome points though, great video!
I laughed so hard at this.
Scott must be a MSTie.
Gristle McThornbody!
The Strongman trunks were never lame to me, just a mystery of costume origin and the assumption that it was to keep his "super bits" from showing through the spandex till i found out what it was inspired by.
I've always liked it to, and when I learned it's origin I found it all the more interesting
I don't like them but I have no idea what to possibly replace them with.
@@expendableindigo9639 boxers instead of briefs? Lol
@@Samantha_yyz Doesn't he have boxers in a lot of adaptations? Idk. I mainly think of the films, New 52 and such where they did just all blue with maybe a red belt, it's a nice idea but it does look like something's missing, I don't know if I'd think that if that had just been Superman's design from the beginning though.
That's how it should be, the kryptonian suit is form fitting even around his junk, so he has to wear the trunks to appeal to earthly insecurities.
"Exposed brick! I finally made it as a TH-camr!"
Whoah, why is that so scarily accurate?
i will never not appreciate the green light off screen that makes it look like the green lantern is glowing that on you
"I AM LYING TO YOU!"
This might be the only video on the internet that utilizes James Joyce's 'Ulysses' to advocate for wearing red underwear on the outside. Scott, my dude, you are a World Champion for this one. Amazing work. Three cheers for approachable, silly Superman!
The tea isn’t spilled, it’s being made properly now…
I would personally have preferred if we got the underpants in the real film... I think the trunks are an important part of the character, this is a good fix. superman is a big softboi himbo and I love him. he is just a big wholesome boy.
Sadly, Zack made it so that his Superman would feel weird with them, even after resurrecting.
@Zac Adkins yeah yknow it's a basic rule of art. Break up colours to make a design more readable. It also makes a character less named by giving them a clear shirt, trousers, boots deviding line.
Trunks has nothing to do with the character. Let alone nothing important. It’s just silly tradition that people are stuck on because nostalgia
@@ianleex6874 yeah you are Technically right. The trunks don't change the characters. When done well the red belt can be just as effective at breaking up the colours and can also look really good.
I think Superman is a character bound by wholesome optimism and the trunks would be/are a great encapsulation of the character in our current year. All the other trinity heroes have changed a lot, Batman wears armor now to protect his body and the classic blue cape and cowl of before are long gone. Wonder woman no longer has the leotard and now wears the skirt to show her more amazonian warrior side that has been adopted over the years. The trunks while silly looking give off an aloofness to the man of Steel. A fact that he knows its a little silly but the cape and trunks have a way of putting folks at ease. It adds a hopeful youthful innocent look to him that just makes me smile. When all these other heroes end up rejecting some of their design elements in favour of a more realistic look superman still rocks a pair of red trunks.
@@ianleex6874 Did you watch the video?
Honestly, the scene you described sounds awesome, it would have been amazing to see. Kind of wish we did.
Also, Superman being a big smiling dork is kind of like the perfect description of him.
I would add Superman being slightly skeletal(like after getting nuked in BvS) until he gets some sunlight.
@@ranwolf76 like in Flashpoint? I'm not extremely familiar with the comics, but I know he was remarkably thin in the alternate timeline there.
@@dcbandit that works too
@@dcbandit and idiots keep crying that “Snyder doesn’t understand Comic Books”
Loved the video. The reason there isn't a scene showing the suit powering him up is because the producers didn't accepted the black suit in pre-production, but Snyder wanted to make it anyway, even if Cavill wasn't going to shoot any new scenes
Snyder just wanted a suit to match his color grading.
Lmfao
I grade his colors a D-.
The Smallville fight in MOS was daylight and in full standard color.
@@dignerds With our hero still in muted colors, and continuing from Scott's point that in Snyder League blue=evil black=good it's the battle Superman pretty much loses while the US military attacks him as well Zod's army. In the final battle, where Superman wins and the military is working with him it's all dark with only one dramatic lighting moment for Supes to get a power boost.
40:05, that cape flapping is perfection
Superman and Lois showed a Superman with red trunks. It looked good and showed how approachable and kind hearted, Clark/Superman really is.
Enough with the red trunks. They are NOT necessary.
@@jedisuperman5 actually in the comics they break up the color balance to keep superman looking like, well, superman. Too much blue there lead to a chain of design changes to where he looks more vilainous. They might not be needed but the red does need to be distributed in a way that works in a similar matter and design teams are just making work harder on themselves by removing that element from his design.
Then they ditched it when the flashback ends.
@@jedisuperman5 Neither is the cape - but both are Superman.
@@Roper122 Batman used to have trunks. Flash's eye-holes have changed, the green on green Lantern's costume no longer covers his crotch like trunks, Shazam's cape is longer, Robin lost the pixie boots, etc. I could go on. Costumes are tweaked over time. Why are the trunks so vital to some people's perception of Superman? Hell, the 'S' itself has evolved!
This was a fantastic examination of the importance of costuming in visual media.
No it wasn't
@@kal-elofkrypton252 Clark you have to admit you aren't the *most* fashionable superhero.
They used the black suit because it's cool. Lol
I loved your Bob Ross video, it made me cry. And I cried knowing your painting was just for you and that we'd never see it and I'm tearing up now when you trolled us. Thank you for your work.
This guy is so good at what he does
NerdSync has uploaded his 1st video this year :D
Can't wait for the next one in 4 months
We all know it's coming like september. But I'm willing to wait for it (wait for it, wait for it).
I love how when Scott tells a story his eyes truly show the emotion the story brings
We've missed you, you wonderful nerd!
❤
I thought you were going to say Superman shows up in the black suite but with a red cape. That would be kinda neat, combineing the human and the kryptonian suits together.
Whenever I hear a loud bird at my window I always yell the Mary Poppins line. "Quiet! You're giving the master a headache."
So perfect. I'm adopting that
That's brilliant! I’ll have to use that more often! ❤️
Can't believe you didn't mention "You should probably move" when listing the improvements, that was the largest improvement to the film by far
Hanging the painting above the set is probably the best thing I've seen yet, Absolutely petty and I love it. I'm glad you arnt compromising on that promise to yourself scott. 👍 Glad to see you back in action!
What an incredible change, I too thought the black suit didn't really fit the purpose of the story
Someone needs to send this video to Zack Snyder
Yeah, it's a really good idea. Too bad you cant go back in time to make changes like these. Would definitely made the movie just a little bit better.
I mean you can just assume he used it to absorb more sun and become stronger. But they should have had him wearing his normal suit under his street clothes at the end of the movie
@@kdub3288 I mean......It would’ve made the future scenes where he’s evil seem more legit if he was in his red and blue suit like in the vision that Cyborg had and Batman’s first and second nightmare.
Just like in the comics, it's used to power up.the sun's rays into.his body
When you walked away from your tea in the intro I immediately said "nooooo". out loud. Thankfully my dad (only other person in the room) is in a zoom call so is sufficiently distracted as to not have noticed.
(that bit also reminded me to drink my own tea, which is sitting on my desk by my hand and yet I STILL forget to drink)
Superman is the dad we think can do everything, will always be there when we need him, but will still get silly and goofy to make us smile.
Your video, as always, is so on point.
"Forget you even made tea and that bums you out" really hit me in the ADHD
*I love the story you made; I would change one thing.*
*Instead of the morning sun powering Supes, it makes him aware of who he is. He apologizes and has a fast chat with Bruce, he hugs Lois, and finally he flys away into the sunrise. We see the JLA fighting and losing, cut to superman basking next to the sun with his eyes closed reflecting on his fathers words. We see Batman cry out "Clark!". Supermans eyes open in an instant and fly to earth in seconds through meteors, leaves a vapor trail in the atmosphere, and smashes through the evil fortresses wall.*
Personally I would have him power up, fight the League a little bit. Then, he rises into the air, prepares to heat vision his buddies, then he looks around, sees his city, his friends, his girlfriend, realizes what he's doing, and kinda... wordlessly recoils at how he's acting, then flies away
22:24 is such a brilliant way to explain why most school required reading is so insufferable. We spend so long trying to analyze the difficult, confusing, and complex book when it really could just be badly written. The themes and morals take so much analysis to understand that it’s really just bad writing
24:45 That revelation actually made me burst out laughing. The setup and the way you said it, and then I thought "Well... Yeah.. I guess that does fix it." and then I literally burst out laughing.
Same 😂
Oh wow, that's actually a great solution! I always thought that Superman being shirtless in the movie was only because, well, people love a shirtless beefcake like Henry Cavill. If his burial suit could be shed off of him, why the heck did his pants stayed on? Again, because we just were assumed to come to see Superman because it's Henry Cavill. A beautiful guy, indeed, but hm... 🙃
My take on the black suit is that it was supposed to be a sort of juxtaposition to the Man of Steel scene. While yes, that suit was framed as something that would lead to tragedy, here it is actually flipped on its head and is instead being used to bring hope, cause that’s what Superman does. Dude could probably rock up to a battle in his pajamas and he’d still invoke a feeling of hope. Snyder also pointed out that the black suit was meant to actually represent Superman’s character arc, where he felt as though he needed to earn the red and blue suit that his father entrusted to him. It was apparently going to take two movies before he got the classic suit back which would’ve been symbolical of the Man of Steel we all know and love being truly back. Unfortunately, it seems unlikely that we’ll be getting to see that due to Warner having 0 interest in the Synder verse, which is kind of unfortunate but I’m still happy we at least got to see the Synder cut at all.
I thought you were going to lean the painting backwards against the wall... or reveal that it was superman with red trunks the whole time! My favorite internet troll right here.
Zack snyder said that "His black suit represents where Superman is in the storyline of his character. He needs to do some work before he can work his way back into the classic red and blue". Basically saying that since Superman has been reborn after failing to be the earth's protector, he needs to earn his way back into the red and blue. ALSO, Superman's red and blue suit still has a giant hole in the middle sooooo he needed a costume change anyway. 🤷🏾♂️
it doesnt have a giant hole, it's right behind him when he chooses the black suit
Cool story
Wish that was in the movie
@@BaithNa Oh, you're one of those "tell me don't show me" kind of guys.
The Batman Very Superman reference made me so happy. I’ve been watching your stuff for so long and will continue to do so!
13:30 Batman very Superman. Haven’t heard that in a long time. Now I miss the Nerdsync podcast all over again.
Great video by the way!
SCOTT, I 100% thought they should have just had his black suit on when he was in his casket under his funeral suit. I’ve thought of this many times.
It's too bad. It would've been perfect.
I love watching you again, we missed you. Aside from the video, wich is excellent content, I wanna point out the extreme production value overhaul this channel got. I loved the editing, I loved the photography, everything was amazing. Thanks for making quality content for us stranger nerds on the internet!
The massive bait at the end! Btw you Bob Ross video was awesome.
The way I read into the whole black suit was more of a change in superman where he decides "he's not gonna die again holding back" and instead when its needed he won't hold back to protect himself and the ones he loves
Ok that tea joke would’ve been my bi awakening if I wasn’t already bi.
My English heart is all aflutter.
I don't know what this means but I am thumbing up this comment anyways
@@thepokekid01 facts
Right? Scott is so cute!
@@unigenius 34:26 Yes Scott, this works really really well for me.
You have the best sense of humor. And are a master story teller.
love seeing more youtubers use the 2:1 aspect ratio. i find it very satisfying as in between 16:9 and 2.15:1 and it looks really good on phones
Missed an opportunity for 4:3, but I agree
Classic Scott! I've missed you! But you take your time, I will always be waiting patiently for every one of your videos.
This is such a good analysis of Superman. I've been saying for a long time that his greatest power isn't his strength, but his ability to inspire others. And yeah, his costume is a huge part of that. His black suit worked for his resurrection in the comics, sure, but the red and blue with always be the colors of optimism and joy. Another great video, Scott. You knocked it out of the park once again!
Also oh my god I was not prepared for that painting twist at the end.
I’m so glad to see you’re back and doing comic book-related videos again! I’ve missed your content and I’m stoked to hear you talk nerd to me on a regular basis!
Yay Scott’s back! Time to take a break from my homework
Homework is over rated
Did you finish it?!
What I think the intended idea was that
1. As suggested in the ship scene, it represented both his human and Kryptonian sides. It symbolized Humanity through the black (as stated in the book he read). Meanwhile, black also symbolizes the Kryptonian heritage, meaning black symbolizes both human’s humanity and Krypton at once.
2. The other part is that at this point in his character arc, I get the sense that all he wants to do is be who he really is, pure like the black suit. The Red and Blue was chosen by Jor-El to be a symbol of hope on his new world. But perhaps Superman is no longer trying to be this godly symbol for everyone to look up to. He seemed to be fighting with that idea in Batman V Superman, and now that he has died in order to achieve that ideal, it is no longer the center of importance for him.
In contrast to that, the Justice League’s purpose in bringing him back was because he was a symbol of hope and, well, muscle power. They still saw him as that but Kal-El didn’t. He still wanted to do what was right, save the planet but also represent that he is the cross of both heritages. A symbol of his innermost identity, but perhaps not be the ultimate symbol of hope.
6. Lastly I’ll also say that in Man of Steel, Kal-El’s nightmare suit and Zod’s zuits both being black could perhaps not exactly be a symbol of Krypton but of their goals to keep or restore their respective cultures. For Zod Black represented his people, but all he wanted was his people back to give himself a sense of purpose. The black represented his connection to restoring his species. Kal-El wore black to represent humanity in the time of Earth’s genocide, showing his struggle to keep human kind alive. Again, being symbolic of the innermost intentions of these characters.
Scott, your storytelling abilities are what makes me love watching your videos and listening to Late to the Party!
I love you Scott, that painting gag at the end was perfect.
Every time you say Steppenwolf I always sing a little Magic Carpet Ride.
🎶I can show you the world... ;P
@@jblue1622 Booooo! ;)
I felt EXACTLY the same when watching the movie. The color of his suit is logically reversed. He should be wearing a black version of the suit in the end credits nightmare sequence, and a red and blue suit in the rest of the movie. It's the ONE thing that the Joss version got right.
Why is the algorithm burying this?? Great job!
Because it's sponsored and you're being click-baited.
@@kal-elofkrypton252 Most videos have sponsors...
What's the clickbait here, exactly?
Scott!! Love to see a 40 minute NerdSync video pop up. One thing though, for some reason looking at the thumbnail, I thought this wouldn’t be a regular video, but more of a podcast highlights thing (by the way, bring back the Nerdsync podcast). Maybe it’s the lower border, I don’t know
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO MAKE THIS VIDEO! THANK YOU SCOTT!
Thanks Scott, the picture placement is perfect!
Your videos genuinely make me so happy. I get so excited when I see this channel in my notifications. Your bob ross video was probably in my top 5 TH-cam videos of all time.
And this one was another great one.
I'd be ok with the black suit if the film explained why he needed it. He walked past a red and blue suit, but chose the black. Why? The film never explains it and he honestly didn't need it. He technically came back at full power so what's the need to regenerate?
One addition to this is I'd have him show up in a brighter more colorful costume
A cool visual technique for showing the ability of the Recovery suit would be if it retains it’s slightly shiny appearance in lower light, but turns completely matte black and almost formless like Vantablack in direct sunlight. Showing that it activated to absorb ALL light that hits it and allowing none to escape, like a black hole!
Then later on during the end of the movie the fight takes place in partial light or night time so the suit could look normal and Hollywoo shiny again.
That would be pretty dope, especially if the ‘S’ glowed a tiny bit or something… I also agree on ditching the cape unless it was obvious that the cape acted as extra surface area for sunlight.
Man that was actually a really good take on how the movie could’ve went and I am 100% on board with that idea! Really good video man!
I just realized something. Why Superman was so aggressive when he was brought back. The motherbox is explained as restoring someone or something to a previous point, in this case restoring Superman to right before his death. And Superman was in the middle of battle when he died. So he's being restored to that point.
34:12 Going to assume that I fully fell for the misdirect. I was expecting you to say the Black suit, but adding the red cape to have the hybrid approach. Well played :D
At 34:12, I thought this was going in a different direction. The most recent visual was Clark as a child, playing superhero while wearing jeans and a tshirt. You say Superman shouldn't wear his black suit during the climax. "Instead, he's wearing his classic red and blue costume with one small addition..." First, I was thinking the change was that his costume would have been made by Martha. That's a classic part of Superman's mythos that got lost in this adaptation, and it would have been a way to combine Clark's Kryptonian heritage with his Earth culture. Then I was thinking that maybe the costume he gets from Martha could be a T-shirt with jeans and a cape, a throwback to that scene in Man of Steel and a reference to the times Superman wore a T-shirt as his "costume" in the comics.
But then you made it about silly briefs. Everyone's always talking about these damn silly briefs.
A 40 min Scott vid right before I go for my daily Pokémon go walk? Yes please and thank you!
I think that the suit represents the endurance of hope most of all. In the dark of the whole suit, the dark and the fear that can bring someone down, however, you can still see the symbol of El, the symbol of hope. That even in the darkest of moments hope can still live in those moments. Zods suit is all black while that little speck of white on Clarks made all the difference in the belief that times would get better. That one day people could look at today and say it's a good day without reservation.
I don’t know… that’s a pretty dark suit. Can’t really make out the S.
I think they just wanted the brownie points. Pandering is pandering. Not always down for good reasons but eh. What are you gonna do?
@@AnimatedTerror It's a silver S against a black background, any more shiny and it would have stood out like a sore thumb. I think it was done just right.
Meh.🤷♀️. The S doesn't become a symbol of hope just because it was exposited. There's nothing throughout the DCEU that _shows_ that it is a symbol of hope. We are only told so.
Through all the many movies all we hear is people complaining about Superman .
The real reason snyder wanted this movie in monochrome was to camouflage the black suit
As a Snyder-bot I really enjoyed this video. I always love how you approach things you dislike or such and it's always fun and in good faith. I really dig your rewrite idea a LOT
I mean, he could come back with a green with purple or pink with yellow suit and I'd just be happy to be getting to see any color at all.
the initial script that had the black suit probably also had some context for it. that wasnt what got shot because wb wanted bright and colorful superman. so when zack retroactively added in the black suit, he wasn't able to add in that reasoning. mainly because henry wasn't available for reshoots.
Personally, even though there wasn’t much to imply the significance of the black suit in the film, I liked to see its significance in the crest on the chest of the suit. Sure, most of the suit is black and has more of a darker feel to it, but the crest of the House of El stands out so much more to me in comparison to the traditional red and blue. Because it is a bright silver color against the deep black of the suit, the literal symbol of hope stands stronger than before, especially and conveniently in a time where sections of the world have that giant, silver symbol planted on structures for everyone to see. It also somewhat reminds me of an explanation for the symbol of the Kingdom Come suit, where the red of it cuts through the darkness behind it as a further symbol of hope.
Also, I think that the change Scott made was pretty genius. I will say that I am unsure how Lois would have acquired the black suit to bury him in or why the suit with the classic trunks would stand out to Superman (regardless of how great and cheesy that design choice would be), but I think it would work really well to hit pretty much every check mark the fans wanted. Black suit after death, it greatly increases the absorption of sunlight, and it ends with the traditional red and blue suit. Overall great video, and glad to see Scott with his first video of 2021 almost halfway through the year!
The black suit represents his humanity because his grave was marked with a silver S on a black background (unlike his dark vision costume which was wholly black so it’s not the same suit). It represents his humanity because it represents the fact that he is not invincible like everyone believes. It shows everyone that even he can die, just like them. It contrasts the power of his Kryptonian side with the mortality of his human side.
To be clear I don’t know that Zack meant it this way, but that’s how I see it and it makes sense to me.
You're incredibly astute. That's exactly what Snyder intended as per an interview with Esquire magazine:
ESQ: Except for when they do. True. What's the story behind Superman's black suit?
Snyder: It comes from Death of Superman of course. But I'm also into this Robert Bly book The Red, White, and Black. The white of naivety, the red of anger, and the black of humanity. I just felt like the black suit is really symbolic of that as well.
Time to fix the suit to make Superman’s suit suit him
hearing batman very superman in the first nerdsync video i came back to this channel to was so amazing
I've watched all his videos, but I've forgotten the reference.
@@expendableindigo9639 Same
@@expendableindigo9639 it’s from their podcast like 5 years ago lol
so do you really think he's strong enough to make a difference?
oh yes he can make a difference alright. but its not just how strong he is. he has this incredible feeling about him. when he's around you feel like everything is going to be okay. and with him it always is
I laughed so hard when you put up the painting 😂. 10/10 joke in a 10/10 video!
Missed you a lot Scott! Thanks for always being so witty, precise and wonderfully charismatic for these videos.
Having a progress bar on your ads is godly and I wish everyone did it
You know... I really do love that there’s so many people who love Superman the same length that I love him. He honestly gives me so much hope that I can truly do something, do ANYTHING in life, accomplish ANYTHING. Superman has made an impact in my life, maybe not as big as Spider-Man, but he still truly gives me hope and has changed my life, in a positive manner. Plus he’s also an entire immigrant story, so the fact that some people don’t catch that honestly upsets me since literally anyone can see themselves as Clark. Like how there will be a black Superman soon, which honestly I’m excited about because more representation for the black community. And if anyone says, “why make it political?” I will drop kick you in the throat. I digress; Superman gives me hope, and the trunks on the outside is iconic and should be used again.
18:46 While Superman may be powerful enough to take down the league seconds after he's brought back to life, he didn't know what was happening. I know that you brought up that he was disoriented and was still powerful, but I believe there's more to it. After getting his memories back and talking with Lois and Martha, he says that the league brought him back for a reason. Now, he has no idea what's going on and is going into battle blind against someone who may pose a serious threat against Earth. Superman knew this was a code red emergency if the league wanted to bring him back to life. So, he has to make sure that he's bringing in enough extra strength to make sure that he could help the league win.
Quality and thoughtful analysis as always, Scott. This is why I cannot unsubscribe from you, No matter how long it takes you to make a video! Really happy to hear your thoughts on this. Please keep up the good work.
Here's how I view the costume. It's mainly black to symbolize that the Justice League perceive their situation as utterly hopeless, with the only silver (white) part being the symbol of hope. It's important that the S is the only silver part to give the feeling that even in the darkest, most helpless times there can be a bright beam of hope. In other words, Superman is hope (the silver house of El logo) and the Apokolips army are despair (darkness or blackness).
I appreciate the 1440p, Scott!
Steppenwolf in this movie reminds me of Magog in Kingdom come. Who was described as an excessive and ugly rob liefeld design. Steppenwolf came straight from the 90s with his spikes. He’s just missing a massive amount of pouches
Now all we need is his hair subtlety forms an 'S'
This is soo good Scott especially for someone like me who has zero (0) interest in DCCU.
Scott: a small thing that bothered me
Also Scott: a 43 minute long video on the small thing!
Totally
Scott: MORE SHIRTLESS SUPERMAN
Also Scott: Instead of being resurrected shirtless, his clothes are disintegrated
The black suit in Man of Steel isn't identical to the one in Justice League. The S is more prominent, pops more because of its silver shade. You know where else we see this? On Superman's military coffin in BvS and on the giant banner in London in Justice League. This Silver S with a black backdrop is how humanity chose to remember him. I thought that's why he chose the suit 🤷🏼♂️ I thought it represented the version of him that humanity finally accepted.
Honestly I agree with Scott on this one. As much in loved seeing the black suit as a comic fan but the narrative context for it wasn't there so I was confused when he didn't just use the readily available red and blue.
always brightens my day when you upload. thank you for all the hard work!!!
Scott, you have the best videos. So thoughtful. Really documentaries!