The Fall of The Roman Empire (1964)
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- Anthony Mann is my new favorite director. Most of his films examine the exhausted hero. I re-edited the end of the film. It's a masterpiece of filmmaking. I can relate to its fall.FART
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The parallels with our times are unmistakable.
BTW: just look at that elaborate set. Construction began on October 1, 1962, using 1,100 men who labored for seven months. About 400 art students and craftsmen throughout Spain worked on the statuary, tiles, frescoes, and details of the set. The reconstruction of the Roman Forum was constructed in Las Matas near Madrid. The entire set measured 1312 x 754 feet, which holds the record for the largest outdoor film set.
Agreed.
This is currently happening in real time...
Some of the best lines written in movie history here, spoken ( some in thought mode) by Sophia Loren:
"People of Rome! Cry out! Quickly run to your neighbors. Tell them .. The night is full of thieves; they have robbed us of our most precious treasures...of our pride, of our glory, of our wisdom, of our honor.
People of Rome! Cry out, "Death is in the air!"
They do not see. They do not hear. Only the jackals who are waiting in the darkness know. Only the vultures who are wheeling in the dark skies know.
Mourn! Mourn for the land that is no more!"
tiggergolah
Love it!! Brilliant!!
tiggergolah I have to agree
Yeah plenty of ham acting in this film.
Holy crap, that is one Hell of a downer ending. With the politicians literally bidding for the Roman Empire. It always struck me as one of the bleakest endings in movie history, because it really shows a society in decline and on the brink of ruin.
remind you of anything?
This actually happened after the death of Commodus. First, a general named Pertinax took power, but he was assassinated by the Praetorian Guard in short order for not giving them the bribe they had grown accustomed to receive with every new emperor. In order to get their money, the Guard then put the throne up for auction, and an auctioning match between Pertinax's father-in-law and a wealthy politician named Didus Julianus. The latter won the bidding match, offering 25,000 sestercii (the yearly pay of a Praetorian at the time was 6000-8000 sestercii) to each soldier. The Guard accepted, and declared Julianus as Emperor. In just over two months, Julianus was assassinated himself, as other Roman generals struggled to take power.
Tragedy is Pertinax might've been a fairly decent emperor, or at least a stabilising influence, after Commodus' reign. But the Praetorian Guard had a history of murdering rulers for their own selfish advantage, at the expense of the empire at large.
Not a fair synopsis. BTW, the DVD is digitally remastered. The movie has its faults but the screenplay is genius, though the ending could've been stronger dramatically (one may miss the contrast between Livius' walking out and the bidding war for the soul of Rome), and the acting is standard for 1964. True, there are better films for the 60s decade but one has to immerse oneself and give the film a chance to get the meaning and not just be in it for pure entertainment value. The negative commentators are too thoroughly modern and perhaps like being mesmerized by special digital effects and fall asleep by this type of movie's dialogue and course. All in all this film is impressive, if not for the most amazing set and interplay of elements that point to how a great State can fall. In the DVD's special features you will find some very interesting commentary. I was struck in my spirit in the second half of the movie at its coincidental relevancy to this age of a chaotic un-united America. If anything just let the narrator's last line sink in: "A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within."
I wonder how many of us have felt like Lucilla in those first moments of the clip.
Too bad they don't make moves lik this anymore, withe the huge cast of extras and the glorious, massive sets.
Gods of Rome
Your empire is dying
The land of the world has gone out! People of Rome
People of Rome!
Quickly Quickly run to your nighborhoods. Tell them
The night is full of thieves
They have robbed us Of our most precious treasures
Of our pride
Of our glory
Of our wisdom of our honor.
People of Rome
Cry out!
Death is near.
Commodus wasn’t even the maddest Roman Emperor, several before him and many after him were quite deranged. Elagabalus as an instance. But the bidding war at the end is largely accurate. Various regional governors proclaimed themselves Emperor and all came to nasty ends.
nah....only that fool rich senator didius julianus made a bidd and proclaimed emperor by the guards after the assasination of pertinax in late march 193 ad.. he lasted only three months or so on the throne.
Wow! What a great film! Most everyone in the burning scene has their chains hang low around them, except for one poor woman who you can see towards the right of the frame at 6:09. What did she do to deserve this punishment, fart up the dungeon? It would give her some comfort to be able to scratch her belly if she needs to as she burns.Thanks for posting! Anthony Mann is the mann! (sorry)
@imperatorcaesar100 "Gladiator" is absolutely inspired by this movie, not by real history. For example: In both movies Commodus is killed in a fight with a former military commander. In reality he was murdered by a wrestler in a bath.
I saw this first and always saw Gladiator as a cheap knockoff.
Brilliant javelin fight at the end. Very similar to Gladiator.
I agree Mann is a wonderful director.
comments are for limbs born yesterday
You ought to watch his Westerns.
For a sec I thought Christophor Plummer was dying then he got energy for a sec and I thought he was pretending but never mind
Oh how i would love just to be able to go back in time at the height of its power and just look at the city of Rome. The buildings, the circus maximus and everything else. Just to see.
I agree! Mann does NOT know how to make a BAD western and "Naked Spur" is probably his best, next to "Man of the West'.
I like Winchester '73 as well.
The scene of the fight is cut!
They do not see
They do not hear
Only the jackals are waiting in the darkness know
Only the vultures that are in black skies know.
Moan moan
for the land that is no more!
I liked this movie a lot, certainly its not the kind of movie they make by these days, its a different approaching...
By the way, i love those lines spoken by Sophia Loren at the first two minutes of this video... can someone tell me if the next transcription is right?:
i KNOW. I did some clever editing. lol. I want peep to support great filmmaking by BUYING the DVD not cheating on here. This was just to show clips of some amazing directing by Anthony Mann and to inspire peep to view the entire film on a bigger screen.
I love that the image is cropped to 2.76:1, Ultra Panavision. Hoping one day they'll re-release the film on Bluray in this format. Did you find an original clip in UP70 or did you crop the scope format print?
Just cropped the scope format print
Such a better ending than Gladiator, which was intended to rob us of all hope.
Great movie!...Sadly it parallels our times....Where do you think they got the thumb up/thumbs down from??
I noticed some similarities in storyline to Gladiator. Same beginning, same ending. Same characters. The character Maximus is different, but not much else. Plagiarism anyone?
Tim Hough Commodus does a bit better before losing and doesn't cheat with wounding and poison. Crazier in some ways but no Father Killer.
What’s Maria bartoromo doing there?
NOW THAT'S A FIRE!!!!!!
Dimitri Tiomkin's music is splendid. This music allways stayed in my mind since the lst time I saw this film.
I feel strange that Christopher Plummer is best known by The Sound of Music.
He is the best actor in this film, much better that Alec Guiness and others.
For me, Christopher Plummer and Joaquin Phoenix will be always and only Commodus.
sigh. while good intentioned, the idea of supporting this film through "DVD" sales is a losing battle - on both sides. The studios already made it's money on this & then some for years. They've made enough from ALL of us - anything they get from DVD sales of older films goes NOT towards preservation/restoration but towards cost overruns of FLOPS & stars that pocket millions fail upwards. Better off by uploading whole films to advance awareness! Want the film to have LIFE? SHOW IT! Forget DVD!
So agree.
Great film
Where did the fight scene go?
The Western Roman Empire survived until 476 AD (CE) and the Eastern Empire (Byzantine) survived another thousand years. There are other historical inaccuracies. Gaius Metellus Livius is obviously fictional, but had he actually lived, he would have either been a Metellus or a Livius--not both, since they were entirely different gentes (tribes)--and had he been adopted by the first from the second, he would have been Gaius Metellus Livianus. Or, by the second from the first, Gaius Livius Metellianus. Otherwise, the acting, writing, direction, design and cinematography are pretty much spot-on.
The point is made that it was the beginning of the end, which took a long time of corruption from within to make it eventually fall completely.
Some serious United States vibes going on there...
EXACTLY.
the senate speech . is the greatest speech ever written,
The United States is living this now.😭
@@Shogun459 I agree.
I don't understand Livius. At first, he sides with the Germanic tribe, and then he let them die.
I think it was simply too late.
Honey did you see how fast that fire spread? Tell me how would have you stopped it?
remind you of anything?
Wotan As I Die Destroy Rome Destroy Rome Attack You'll Never Drag Me Or My People Through The Streets Of Rome As Slaves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ballomar Has The Best Lines
...............GLADIATOR OR THE FALL.....?
wow. i cnt beleive dat. he would have done flavius well.
the uk is heading that way..
he is saying "destroy rome! destroy rome!"
Yes.
This really happende. No one could see. The guy had an RX767 Alien gun that he found on his backyard. That is why he won.
Excuse you!
The Eastern Roman Empire did not fall until the mid 1400s!
Yes. This film is about the western empire
Really sumptuous production and certainly intelligent but somehow it just doesn't work. It comes off as … corny.
Truss, Tories, are you all listening?
A poor film with good production values. Not very good history. But Christopher Plummer was simply excellent as Commodus, and Stephen Boyd was completely inadequate as LIvius. The part needed Heston but I read that he did not want to work with Loren again after El Cid. IMO, Plummer's performance is one of the best of that decade, which is saying something.
Doesn't Mitch McConnell have a cameo in this picture as a hand-wringing, cynical Roman Senator who leaks a trail of worm-infested, rectal mucus all over Rome?
It's just a silly term. Relax. lol.
The Americanus presitntus Donanads Truptus the last of a unitus Anericanus ..🇺🇸
My all time favorite sequence starts at 7:57. How prescient to 2020 US presidential politics where billionaires attempt to buy the office of the President. A disgrace. Aye, this is indeed how Empires fall...Be well.
Whites
Soon, the usa.
Coming Soon!
Welcome to the United Corporations of America 2012!
loool
... thus shall zionists empire!
Pre-1970 movie acting was a lot like stage acting. Over dramatized, over-animated, with too much emphasis on body language, facial expression, and over dramatized oration. Begs the question, 'how would these actors appear in todays modern movie making?
Ridiculous to make such a grand statement. Talk about over emphasis. Your whole statement is over the top. There's a great deal of shouting and scene tearing in todays films. Just like there is some great acting today. Dig a little deeper before striking down films and acting before 1970. I personally love early talkies until the code kicked in around 1935. Actors of that time literally INVENTED a type of acting never seen before. Its fascinating. One should respect that. You're missing out on great acting on film with no dialogue. That is the true essence of film acting. Films can try to be too clever with too many words. Film is a visual medium. Some of the greatest films,scenes, acting of the past have been done with no dialogue. Dig deeper, my friend.
You’re right! How can one dismiss actors of the past just because it’s different today?! It’s a bit of an idiosyncrasy ….
Are we also to ban Shakespeare for not using a “natural” language as we do today?
I enjoyed this film very much, in part because it does seem to be of another period, giving it a historical aura. There is grander, and a larger than life appeal.
Magnificent acting!
This movie sucks!!!!! I tried to watch it once - once. Sophie loren is so over the top. This ranks in my Top 10 Worst history movies of all-time.
But music is great. And Plummer's acting too.
Your opinion is totally erroneous ! ! ! For me, it's one of the BEST movies of all-time ! ! ! Not historically exact, of course, but a gigantic, spectacle and fantastic actors; and, as some old 1950s/1960s superproduction peplums, via the profoundness of dialogs, with fundamental political questions, very actual in our world of today. In this case, the integration of many different peoples (migrants ?) in an society. In Ben Hur (1959), the presence of Roman (American ?) Army in the Middle East. In the final scene of The Robe (1954), the hypothese that an entire civilisation can be wrong in his choices (the crucifixion of Jesus: the greatest error of Roman Empire ?) All these movies are better, more adults, that space operas.