How would Iran be different to what it is now if it had remained Sunni? Early Modern History Playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLiPhmAD3I2JwdVOt4lI39d3XENLktUgP5.html
Most of the polymaths in the Islamic golden age were Persians. Whether they were Sunni or Shia, Persians always contributed to Islamic civilisation. Polymaths such as Ibn Sina , Al- Biruni , Al- Khwarizmi , Al- Razi, Al Tusi, Tabari and Al Ghazali and so many others were all Persian.
@@pantrywarriors9577 Do you guys know anything beside lol? you mean crying out load? Quran is written by judeo-sunni 70 years after the Prophet's assassination. There was no concept of GOD until the last few centuries, there was a Good and Bad concept. Thanks to Shias and Persians, Islam was created after martyrdom of Prophet Mohammad and virtually all his decedents in Karbala. Christianity was born after the martyrdom of Eesa Messiah (aka Jesus). Jens/Jews/Zionists Martyred the most powerful and untouchable men Eesa Messiah and prophet Mohamad and virtually all his descendants, then forced everybody to remain silent and submit to them by fasting and bowing to them 5 times a day. Sunni (Farsi word: سلطنتی or سلطانی) means royal lineage or monarchy. Hashem is a title in Farsi حاکم, it means the ruler or governor for a particular time and place. Hashemite is (حاکمان) the collection of the governors. The assassination of prophet Mohammad and the massacre of Karbala which was planned and executed by the Hashem of that time Yazid (same as Yazidis) made them the landlord of Kaaba in Mecca, it was owned by prophet Mohammad and his brothers. Shia شاهد witnesses [of assassination of the prophet and the Karbala massacre] was born. The current Hashem can be seen in the TH-cam video "Documentary on the two holy mosques" at 1:52 time.
There is a curious parallel between the Sunni/Shia struggle in Iran and the Catholic/Protestant conflict in England (and elsewhere) during the same period - both ending around 1600 with successful conversion to the newer faith.
Its the use of aristotelian thinking, instead of the more mystical Platonism, applied to islamic religious philosophy and Christian religious philosophy, that shift in influence can be seen paralleled in Protestant philosophocal developpment both in Germanic and English territories at about thw same time. This also affected the approaches to religious and political thought, as could be perceived in the difference in say The Spanish contra reforma vs anglo germanic reform, and how it affected the regions colonized by each religious approach. The differences between latin american ex colonies and British excolonies. This is all a working hypothesis of mine that I have been developping thru decades of study.
@@aminrodriguez4707 actually a greater paralel would be shia did to islam what St Paul did to christianity. great scholars such as manzoor numani have written about this. St Paul (Rabbi Saul) "converted" to christianity after he realised murdering them wont kill the new monotheistic religion so he wrote book s and influenced it from the inside. and instead of being 1 God the new religion of Christ the messiah turned into 3 in 1 In fact St. Luke who wrote a bible was a student of Rabbi Saul. The furthur the authors of the bible are from the birth of Christ the more pro son of God they are.
Shia means followers, We are followers of Ali (AS) and ahlul bayt (prophet's family).
Shia started from famous history of Ghadeer also recored in sunni books where Prophet (SAWW) says who call me Moula, Ali is his moula. When prophet (SAWW) died, abu bakr, + umer + other powerful people in saqifa made themselves caliph while Ali was unaware and was busy in greaving of Prophet's death. When sahabas (RA) saw it, they knew about GHADEER and so did not gave bayah to abu bakr. Even Ali didnot gave baya to abu bakr UNTIL ISLAM WAS IN DANGER. Not to forget abu bakr killing of sahabas in the crime that they denied paying their zakath even it was not zakath time. Then abu bakr and umer came to Ali's house, and hurted daughter of Prophet, Bibi Fatima (SA) who died along with Her child due to that incident. Another SUNNI HADITH: Where it even says that daughter of Prophet (SAWW) stopped even seeing abu bakr and umer until She died. DONT YOU GUYS THINK, Why grave of Prophet's daughter is STILL UNKNOW until day of today ?? Among other things.
1:06 Persia before the Safavids 1:24 Beginning of Safavid rule Qizilbash (Early Safavid army) Shah Ismail I (first Safavid ruler) 5:26 Religious persecution 7:53 Migration of Shia scholars to Persia & a comparatively moderate approach 10:12 Shia identity in Safavid dynasty
Great topic to talk about! Turks first encountered the caliphate but learnt more about islam from the Persians. Most of the Islam related words that we use today stems from the Persian language. For example we don't say Salat. We use Namaz.
Turkic tribes allied themselves with Arab caliphate and attacked Sassanian Iran, so Turkic people have been in touch with Islam a lot earlier than Iranians have and their conversions was done smoothly, with less problematic issues because Turkic people were all shamans and had no specific religion with no specific set of rules to make them resist Islam (as opposed to Iranians who were originally Zoroastrians, Crhistians, Jews, Agnostics etc).
Very interesting, because for the first 1000 years, Persia produced many famous Sunni scholars. Shia as a majority sect. has only been in Iran for approximately 400-500 years. They have been Sunnis longer than they have been Shias.
Iran become a dumb nation when shiaism forcefully introduced to them. You see in western world, majority of Iranians are athiest because of shia beliefs that is contrary to Islam
@@hojboj3222 the Muslim scholars of Persian/Farsi/ Iranian descent were Imam Abu Hanifa, imam Bukhari, imam Ghazali Tusi, great sufi masters like Bayazid Bistami, Abu Hasan Kharaqani, Abu Ali Farmedi, great poets Rumi, Saadi Shirazi, Hafiz, Omar Khayyam, Abdul Rahman Jami. The list is too long. ALL SUNNI PERSIANS.. I am an educated Sunni, sufic, Muslim in UK. There are fanatics in all countries, Iran has its large share. ORIGINAL IRANIANS WERE SUNNI - simple fact, forced by Safavis by the sword.....
@Ottoman Foundation Trust I think Iran and Turkey has always been mixed population of Sunni and Shia until the Ottoman (Sultan Salim) & Safavid THEY BOTH FORCED CREED BY THE SWORD
Safavid dynasty was Iranian Empire of Kurdish Iranic origin there ancestry Firuz-Shah Zarrin-Kolah , Sadr al-Dīn Mūsā and Safi-ad-din Ardabili they all are Shah Ismail ancestors who are all Kurdish origin there flag lion and sun flag which was Iranian flag with more 3000 years history was 100 percent Iranian Empire the name of the Safavid kings use to be finish by Persia like Abbas I of Persia also know Shah Abbas The Great who killed many Turkic people in Iran the dynasty if you don't know history don't open your mouth read 1 book about Safavid dynasty before you open your mouth read this one Safavid Iran: Rebirth of a Iranian Empire that very famous book about the Safavid dynasty of PERISA they were very good form at killing Turkic peoples Shah Ismail killed 80,000 Azeri in Tabriz and many Turkic peoples in Central Asia force them to eat dead body Shah Abbas The Great was the master of killing Turkic people he killed the Turkic in Iran army it is clear that they was IRANIAN everyone know that turkic propaganda will not work
@@brightburnedits4278 they won't admit it, brother. If it was possible for them to manipulate the whole world, they would've claimed the starting point of humanity, Hazrat Adam (a.s) to be of Turkic origin too. 😂
I don't hold any grudge against them, but some of their claims are so delusional and without any evidence. Like they claim Azerbaijanis to be of Turkic descent, Azerbaijan's language and culture is derived from the Turkic languages and cultures but their genealogy doesn't match with them, there was a study carried out sometime ago which lead to the conclusion that genetically Azerbaijanis were mostly Persian and only some of them had a few percent of Turkic genes among them but more Kurdish and Persian (Iranic). You can check the study of genes I'm talking about, because i have forgotten the name particularly, but I'm damn sure it's still available there, you should check that. I think it can be easily found if searched.
I'm from South Lebanon (Jabal Amil), and family lore has it that my ancestors were amongst the scholars that migrated to Persia. My grandfather even wrote a book about this called التشيّع بين جبل عامل وإيران (Shiism between Jabal Amel and Iran). It's a shame that appart from Shias few Lebanese are aware of this history despite the enormous impact it had on modern history
Salam brother, my great grandfather actually came from Jabal Amil and came to Kashan a town in central Iran to preach. It's so good to hear from you ♥️♥️♥️
Passing Imamat down from father to son is generally true, but the next imam isn't necessarily the son of the present imam. For example, the second imam was Hasan ibn Ali (PBUH) and the third imam was Husayn ibn Ali (PBUH), and they were brothers. Despite Imam Hasan's had many sons,
@@ammsarmerchn2841 an imam is designated from birth. Imam Ali al sajad the son of Imam Hussain a.s had an older brother (Ali al akbar) but Ali al akbar was not the Imam regardless of age
You see the logo.It is a Sunni Islamic channel.what they want say omar send islam to iran With peace (Historians say he slaved thousands of iranian women and raped them)but Ismael forcibly converted millions of people to Shiism with a small group.
Now that you've covered how Iran became predominantly Shi'a Islamic country, will you do about Egypt and Sicily but in reverse too? After all, the Fatimids and the Kalbids were Shi'a dynasties but the peoples remained largely Sunni for those who are Muslims.
The Fatimids were Ismai’li not Ja’fari, they ruled Egypt but they never forced shi’ism on the population like Shah Ismail did. They ruled over a majority Sunni population and didn’t do much to change the demographics.
The Fatimids cared more about Arabisation of Egypt than Shia'sm of the population. You have to remember North Africa was never Arab. The Arabisation processes took centuries.
@ICE may I ask which concepts make the Ismailis not muslims? I know Nizaris don’t follow the Shariah, although this is disputable, but Bohras offer prayers 5 times a day
@@IsmailBae-l9h Bohras are like Nizari Ismaili’s in that they adhere to “seven pillars of islam.” This is against the many hadiths in support of five and the centuries long consensus. Nizaris not following the Shariah isn’t a matter of dispute, aside from the fact that they also follow seven pillars, they give their “Agas” Zakat even though they are not of the ones prescribed in the Quran, and instead of hajj they visit the “Aga.” This is cult worship and shirk (associating partners with Allah).
If the first Safavid shah let himself be seen as the 12th imam how did the Safavids explain the fact that Judgement Day didn't happen during his lifetime? Great video by the way! Thanks.
@@hmmm3210 quite early on in Islam alot of splinter sects had leaders who claimed too be the Mahdi alot of the time it was just political, basically of all these sects don't exist today
Indeed, when Isma‘il captured Tabriz in 1501 he proclaimed himself in pre-Islamic Iranian political terms as Padishah-i Iran. In using the Persian term “Padishah,” to describe his status in “Iran,” he was repeating pre-Islamic Iranian political and geographical/political terminology that had only recently been revived by the Il-Khanid Mongols and used also by the Aq Quyunlu. His invocation of these terms suggests he thought of himself as a political heir of hismatrilineal relatives, the Aq Quyunlu. The ancient term “Iran” had fallen out of use following the Arab-Muslim invasions and had not been used by the Caliphs, or their successors, the Samanids, or the many Turkic dynasties that succeeded them. A final irony of Isma‘il’s use of the term “Iran,” or in one of his poems the phrasemulk-i ‘Ajam, the “state” or “kingdom of Iran,” is that even though Tabriz, Azerbaijan, and Mesopotamia represented provinces of the pre-Islamic Shahanshahs, the “kings of Kings” of Iran, there is no evidence that Isma‘il imagined himself to be reconstituting a new Iranian empire; rather he planned to establish a messianic Shi‘i state on Aq Quyunlu foundations. Within the decade following his capture of Tabriz in 1501, Isma‘il occupied the geographic center of the pre-Islamic Achaemenid and Sasanian Iranian empires. He did so, though, with Oghuz tribes whose knowledge of the Shah-nama and the glories of pre-Islamic Iranian kingship was almost certainly limited to inchoate oral traditions. Isma‘il was reconstituting the Aq Quyunlu state in these conquests, and like that of the Aq Quyunlu, the ultimate focus of his ambitions was eastern Anatolia, where his father and grandfather and he himself had proselytized among the Turks. Dale, S. (2009). The rise of Muslim empires. In The Muslim Empires of the Ottomans, Safavids, and Mughals (New Approaches to Asian History, pp. 48-76). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. doi:10.1017/CBO9780511818646.005
@ICE Taghe-khosrow was a famous place during history for Iranians and also Arabs mentioned this building as what remains from Sasanians also the heart land of persians was the modern pars province of Iran and Teasphon was an imperial city made by Phartians not their homeland...... also i have to mention that Safavids took control of Baghdad several times that's why people of south Iraq are Shia Muslims. I don't wanna say that Safavids consider themselves as something like pre-islamic Iranian kings but they wanted to show their Identity like pre-islamic kings
If put it simply Safavids State as Iran (Persia) is an historical construction. Ismayil was Azerbaijani (Turkoman). Even his poems (divan) are written in Azerbaijani, and these poems can be easily understood by nowadays Azerbaijani. Ismayil was more interested in conquering Eastern Anatolia (Turkoman area) than so-called Persia because there were Turkic population. Safavids' aristocracy, ruling and military class were predominantly Turkic (Azerbaijani), there were little room for Persians indeed.
@ICE Azeri is English word for Azerbaijani nation, and I am not talking about small Iranian ethnos (Azeris), but about Azerbaijani Turkic Nation whose self-name is simply Türk. There is history as a science for such problems and no one besides persian nationalists think that Azerbaijani Turkic People are iranians.The Safavid state, with its tribal organization, both played a crucial role in the Turkification of the Azerbaijani provinces, and turned Turkic into a ubiquitous language in Iran. Because the governors appointed to govern the provinces were sent to them along with the tribes. It will not be a mistake to classify or praise the Safavid state as the state that had the largest number of Turkic elements of culture among all the states of Turkic origin in this area.
I am not a Muslim. But, I feel really sad to see that a very tolerant, open-minded and a scholarly group of people have turned into a society which is intolerant to knowledge. Most of the early day scholars didn't come from the West. They came from Middle East. Thanks for creating this video.
Being a Sunni Muslim and I was nourish in a sunni family never heard and teach from my parents to curse any of the companion of the beloved Prophet Muhammad SAW. Infact I was teach that the family of the Prophet was one of the pious and God loving people , his Companions where also a God loving people Indeed there was a a difference between the companion of Prophet Muhammad but cursing was not an option I was taught .we as a sunni Muslims belive in 10 pious companion of beloved Prophet Muhammad SAW who was granted paradise by Prophet Muhammad SAW when he was alive , Hazrat Ali and whole of his family was among them , in every Friday prayer we sunii send blessing to the family of Prophet and his companion so where from the verge of hatred comes in Shia.
Anyone who met/saw Prophet S and said he accepted Islam is called Sahaba (definition) and we all have to obey them. Now Allah is talking about Monafeqin in Quran. Then, please exclude Monafeqin from the list or we will obey the devil rather than the true Sahaba. besides, why these so-called 10 pious companions fought each other to the dead. which one was the devil and which one was innocent?
@Saied Akbar Ahmady they Sahaba are the common people they are not the representative from the God just like messenger of God , with every Prophet their was an angel name Jibrael who reveal the message of God to this messenger , but companion of the Prophet Muhammad SAW was not spiritually connect with God like the messenger of God , so they were not aware about the matter of Unseen with this result their was a confusion create among them after the death of beloved Prophet Muhammad SAW , they fought with each other but we were inform by the Beloved Prophet Muhammad SAW that those 10 companion were the pious one whom Allah granted Jannah we are just obeying the commandments of beloved Prophet Muhammad, rest Allah know about their intentions they are themselves accountable for their deeds we are for our self , so instead of searching their fault and cursing them make our own action right , every individual is accountable for his deeds on day of Judgment we are not accountable for the thing which companion did..
That Hadith of the promised 10 to jannah is fake. It was fabricated. You as a Sunni can see it for yourself, as the list the names come in is exactly the order of the caliphs that ruled after the prophets death. The only problem is that the prophet selected Ali as his successor, so how would that order of him being 4th in that Hadith makes sense??? Sunni Islam is not the true path, it has been manipulated with and changed since after the prophet left this world. Shias have stayed true to the prophets words which is to follow the Quran and the teaching of his ahlul bayt. May Allah guide you
Shia means followers, We are followers of Ali (AS) and ahlul bayt (prophet's family).
Shia started from famous history of Ghadeer also recored in sunni books where Prophet (SAWW) says who call me Moula, Ali is his moula. When prophet (SAWW) died, abu bakr, + umer + other powerful people in saqifa made themselves caliph while Ali was unaware and was busy in greaving of Prophet's death. When sahabas (RA) saw it, they knew about GHADEER and so did not gave bayah to abu bakr. Even Ali didnot gave baya to abu bakr UNTIL ISLAM WAS IN DANGER. Not to forget abu bakr killing of sahabas in the crime that they denied paying their zakath even it was not zakath time. Then abu bakr and umer came to Ali's house, and hurted daughter of Prophet, Bibi Fatima (SA) who died along with Her child due to that incident. Another SUNNI HADITH: Where it even says that daughter of Prophet (SAWW) stopped even seeing abu bakr and umer until She died. DONT YOU GUYS THINK, Why grave of Prophet's daughter is STILL UNKNOW until day of today ?? Among other things.
the anceint name of afghanistan was The Great khurasan ,that iran and pakistan and central asia was part of it, afghans kings such Mahmoud of ghaznawey ,tha ghouri dynasty , the Hotakeys and Ahmad shah abdali etc ruled iran for centries , iran had not had its own gouvernment for 950 years ,its ruled by other nations , such Arabs , Afghans , Uzbeks etc
@@ashvazdanghe the anceint name of afghanistan was The Great khurasan ,that iran and pakistan and central asia was part of it, afghans kings such Mahmoud of ghaznawey ,tha ghouri dynasty , the Hotakeys and Ahmad shah abdali etc ruled iran for centries , iran had not had its own gouvernment for 950 years ,its ruled by other nations , such Arabs , Afghans , Uzbeks etc
The Samanid Empire (Persian: سامانیان, romanized: Sāmāniyān) also known as the Samanian Empire, Samanid dynasty, Samanid amirate, or simply Samanids) was aempire,[8] from 819 to 999. The empire was centred in Khorasan and Transoxiana; at its greatest extent encompassing modern-day Afghanistan, huge parts of Iran, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and parts of Kazakhstan and Pakistan. Four brothers-Nuh, Ahmad, Yahya, and Ilyas-founded the Samanid state. Each of them ruled territory under Abbasid suzerainty. In 892, Ismail Samani (892-907) united the Samanid state under one ruler, thus effectively putting an end to the feudal system used by the Samanids. It was also under him that the Samanids became independent of Abbasid authority.
Another note to add, Uzun Hasan of the Bayandir tribe (Ak koyunlu) conquered Iran under Shia Islam long before the Safavids and he also cooperated with them and laid the foundations for Shia Islam in Persia
most iranians these days are either atheists or christians, the people resent the gov so much that are basically on the policy of any friend of the gov is my enemy or even anyone they like or look alike, i think fed up would be an understatement to the situation of the people but hey, we love you too! no matter what our gov decides to do or say we love all of the people around the world(excluding teenagers with nazi fetish ofc😂)
This is really a complicated topic. No true Muslim would avoid respecting the prophet or his family. But this was taken to an extreme by the Shia proponents and unfortunately utilized as a political ploy. I feel sad for Iran
I would suggest you have look at the history of when Hassan Ibn Ali grandson of Prophet S signed a treaty with Mawia ibn Abu Sofyan to stop cursing Ali but he didn't comply with it and the whole Muslim community for hundreds of years was cursing Ali. This is while Ali was just like the prophet S himself according to many ayats of the Quran. Have a look into the translation of the following words that al-Shāfiʿī, the head of 4th Sunni school said about Ali. علی حبه جنة قسیم النار والجنة وصی المصطفی حقا إمام الانس والجنة
@@saiedakbarahmady1850 I thought Umar Ibn Abd Azis put an end towards the vile tradition and his successor Hisham Ibn Abd Malik despite his alleged rivalry with Imam Jafar as sadiq do not continue Umayyad cursing of Ali.
The Samanid dynasty was founded by Saman Khuda, an 8th-century noble whose descendants, the House of Saman, later became rulers of Persis region, that is the Samanid Empire. He was a Dehqan from the village of Saman in Balkh province, in present-day northern Afghanistan.[12] The earliest appearance of the Samanid family appears to be in Greater Khorasan rather than Transoxiana.[13] In some sources, the Samanids claimed to be descended from the House of Mihran of Bahram Chobin. It has been claimed that the House of Saman belonged to the Oghuz Turks, although the veracity is unlikely.[13] Originally a Zoroastrian, Saman Khuda converted to Islam during the governorship of Asad ibn Abdallah al-Qasri in Khorasan,[14] and named his oldest son as Asad in the governor's honour.[15] In 819, the governor of Greater Khorasan, Ghassan ibn Abbad, rewarded the four sons of Al-Qasri for their aid against the rebel Rafi ibn al-Layth. Nuh ibn Asad received Samarkand; Ahmad ibn Asad received Farghana; Yahya ibn Asad received Tashkent, and Ilyas ibn Asad received Herat.[14]
The Zoroastrians who came to India are called the Parsis or Iranis. They have integrated with the local population very well. Many Parsis like Ratan Tata, Dadabhai Navroji, Jamshetji Tata, Sam Manekshaw and many others have given immense contributions to India. Respect to Iranian brothers from Bharat.
The Samanid dynasty was founded by Saman Khuda, an 8th-century noble whose descendants, the House of Saman, later became rulers of Persis region, that is the Samanid Empire. He was a Dehqan from the village of Saman in Balkh province, in present-day northern Afghanistan.[12] The earliest appearance of the Samanid family appears to be in Greater Khorasan rather than Transoxiana.[13] In some sources, the Samanids claimed to be descended from the House of Mihran of Bahram Chobin. It has been claimed that the House of Saman belonged to the Oghuz Turks, although the veracity is unlikely.[13] Originally a Zoroastrian, Saman Khuda converted to Islam during the governorship of Asad ibn Abdallah al-Qasri in Khorasan,[14] and named his oldest son as Asad in the governor's honour.[15] In 819, the governor of Greater Khorasan, Ghassan ibn Abbad, rewarded the four sons of Al-Qasri for their aid against the rebel Rafi ibn al-Layth. Nuh ibn Asad received Samarkand; Ahmad ibn Asad received Farghana; Yahya ibn Asad received Tashkent, and Ilyas ibn Asad received Herat.[14]
How would the house of saman belong to the oghuz turks when the oghuz turks only migrated to iran in the 11th century, which is way after the samanids? What a stupid thing to say…
The Persians a lot of important key figures that helped shape, and develop Sunni Islam as we know it today. Imam Muslim was a Persian who was born in Nishapur Iran, and died there, and is buried there today. Ibn Sina wrote a biography before he passed talking about his Persian roots, and identity, and went back to Iran before he died to buried there. Ghazali, Al Bukhari were also Persians, and actually Bukhari means "heater" in Persian, and his family name "Bardizbah" is old Persian name. Bukhari's family converted from Zoroastrianism to Islam, and there are many more prominent scholars that were Persian. When the Persians became Shia, the top scholars of Shi'ism were Persians as well.
In iran before safavid empire many shia Muslims lived in shia cities like qom, kashan, north of iran,sabsevar,rey,... Safavid with help of these shia people successfully converted other persian people to shia islam. Its a fact that many historian ignored it.
@@middleeastrenwarriormen1017 no the Shi'a sect formed in Iraq . Although the region of Iraq had a significant Arab presence prior to the Islamic conquests it isn't a part of Arabia according to most .
Allahumabarik, exactly, Rasullallah (SAW) created the Sunnah but wasn’t Sunni, and Ali followed the Sunnah, and wasn’t Shia, they were both Muslims, submitted to the one Allah
The Sunnah Itself is Manmade , Mo was Man Himself , And God knows only if he ever existed , because in Those time Religion was the way to Gather people and Holy Places was the Big Business….Quran is Written 100 yrs after death of Mohamed ,So to claim He was Enlighmtened and Passed The knowledge but Wrote it after 100 Years sounds fishy…Think about it , Don’t beleieve blindly ,You have a Brain use it,,,,,❤❤
Yet these strange Shia consider themselves followers of Ahl al Bayt. From Ali and Fatima to Al Hasan and Al Hussain, these were all MUSLIMS completely separate from the strange and scary rituals of the Shia today
@@DonkeyEMakesYouWiserNowIslam is the religion of brought by Muhammad rasulallah (peace be with him) Twelver Shi’ism is the religion brought by the people of Kufa from their guilt of betraying Hussain at Karbala. Almost immediately the Kufan’s started beating themselves and the Shia continue to this day. Yeah, they’re raving over Hussain’s martyrdom - yet Hussain lived for 21 years after the martyrdom of Ali - did he ever Rave or beat himself over his father’s martyrdom? Never. Make it make sense. So who and what are these clowns even following, because it’s not Ahl al Bayt.
If Iran was Sunni Muslim the reality of Muslim world will change completely Persians Sunni Muslim has contributed so much to islam even so they are now shia I love iran
Safavids were definitely one of the most interesting Iranian dynasties! It would be interesting to see a video about Abbas the Great as he changed Safavid Iran alot!
Shia means followers, We are followers of Ali (AS) and ahlul bayt (prophet's family).
Shia started from famous history of Ghadeer also recored in sunni books where Prophet (SAWW) says who call me Moula, Ali is his moula. When prophet (SAWW) died, abu bakr, + umer + other powerful people in saqifa made themselves caliph while Ali was unaware and was busy in greaving of Prophet's death. When sahabas (RA) saw it, they knew about GHADEER and so did not gave bayah to abu bakr. Even Ali didnot gave baya to abu bakr UNTIL ISLAM WAS IN DANGER. Not to forget abu bakr killing of sahabas in the crime that they denied paying their zakath even it was not zakath time. Then abu bakr and umer came to Ali's house, and hurted daughter of Prophet, Bibi Fatima (SA) who died along with Her child due to that incident. Another SUNNI HADITH: Where it even says that daughter of Prophet (SAWW) stopped even seeing abu bakr and umer until She died. DONT YOU GUYS THINK, Why grave of Prophet's daughter is STILL UNKNOW until day of today ?? Among other things.
Before this iranian empire many Iranian empires were shia like Iranian buyid dynasty that conquer abbasid cqliphate Or Iranian qarmatians that conquer Arabia they were shia
@@brightburnedits4278 Buyids were never able to conquer the Abbasid Caliphate. During the Siege of Baghdad Seljuks launched an invasion onto persia putting an end to the Buyid Dynasty and also saving the Abbasids
I would argue that Iran becoming Shia has done a lot in preserving a sense of original cultural identity distinguishing the Shia Persians from the Sunni Arabs. A consequence of the Islamic conquest back in the 7th century I believe was the assimilation and forcing of arab culture language and tribal structures on many non Arab groups in the Middle East such as the Coptic Egyptians Assyrians and the Berbers.
The Ottomans were the other reason for that. They were the main and most hated enemy by the Persians, which resulted in them losing and then gaining back Tabriz multiple times. The Ottomans were sunni, so they became Shia.
The Safavids main reason wasn't religious or cultural. It was political and ideological! They were enemies with the Ottomans. It's also important to mention that although the Safavids espoused Persian culture, they weren't ethnic Persians. They came from the Azerbaijani regions of Iran...Even in today's Iran, the main Clerics (including the supreme leader) and top politicians come from the Azeri regions. The current leaders of today's Iran are neo-Safavids! They are ideologically and religiously the same! Everything Iran is doing in the middle east is a continuation of the Safavid project that started 500 years ago.
Berbers are not Middle Eastern, they had their own distinct North African culture and tribal identity centuries before they were conquered by the Muslim Arabs
A common Zionist distortion of history. Iran has always been multi cultural and multi ethnic with different groups living in tribes that occasionally side with a shah. The shah and the tribal leaders typically had a close relationship and it goes back for centuries and one of the reasons why many of them defected was due to a caste system in place by magi priests.
Yes, culture makes religion impure. That's why in Islam religion is NUMBER ONE above culture and nationalism. At the end, no one asks your culture when you died
While Kasravi argues that the Safavids were indigenous inhabitants of Iran (i.e., Indo-European rather than Turkic), various early editions of Safvat al-Safa call Sheykh Safi al-Din 'Pir-i Turk', or 'Master/Guide of the Turks'. Later scholars, on the other hand, postulate various other possibilities for the family's ethnic and linguistic background, including Arab and Kurdish. Safavid chronicles begin their narrations of the origins of the Safavids with Safi, who was burning with the love of God' even at a young age and was known for his inquisitive nature. 26 He was not only wise and fluent in six languages (Turkish, Arabic, Persian, Mongolian, Kurdish and Gilani), but also showed signs of 'blessed ness' as the ancestor of a dynasty that would rule the entire time and place. Matthee, R. (Ed.). (2021). The Safavid World (1st ed.). Routledge. pp.18
You failed to mention that North and Northwest Iran were already of the Shia faith. Tabriz itself is the oldest city to convert to Twelver Shi'ism. Even the Qara Qoyunlu Turkic dynasty which was based in Tabriz was twelver Ja'fari shia. Tabriz and northwest Iran were Shia since the time of Buyids.
@@jihadi-against-oppression Nope, you can look into the history of QaraQoyunlus kind sir. They were a Shia majority dynasty based in Tabriz. The major Sunni populations were in central and southern Iran. Most of Iraq was Sunni at the time but North, North west Iran and Caucasus (Azerbaijan) were majority Shias.
My family probably descends from one of those Shia scholars who moved into Iran after the conversion. From what i understand 14 generations ago my ancestor moved into a tiny mountain pass town near Shiraz, in Fars. It probably helped that there was at least some intermarriage with iranian people. From a dna test I had it turns out i have some markers from Iran, but a lot from the Arab world too. Of course, my dad left the country during the revolution, and settled in India, and got married to my mum, later having kids and all. Both respected each other, so although not allowed by either of their faiths, they had a secular marriage. Neither converted. Also, i was sent to catholic school, because neutral territory. Ive never been to Iran, and the plan is to visit next year around Nowruz. It would be nice to see the resting place of many of my ancestors and eat the food that ive heard stories about for decades, amkngst other things. I have never really considered myself as belonging to any particular faith as i was blasted with 5 different ones in my childhood. Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Christianity and slight smattering of Zoroastrian all played their hand. As far as the split goes, everyone knows that the umah is not faring that well under the current Hindu- fundamentalist government in India. I for one would hardly be surprised if i was being lynched because there hage been quite a few already. Sadly, the hatred persists, be it indian vs indian, hindu vs muslim, and shia vs sunni. Im pretty sure that anyone whose plan was to lynch you would not make any distinction about which sect you come from over here. A circumcised male is considered the enemy, regardless of whether they are a child or an old man. Under such circumstances, one would imagine that this hatred would reduce. Even for the sake of survival, that is not yet happened. If even the threat of genocide wont make people band together, i don't know what will. Ill end on a happy note though, a Sunni muslim friend of mine once came over to visit and to seek advice from my late father. "Uncle", he said, "I need some advice." "Yes?" "Uncle i have fallen in love with a Shia girl. What should i do?" "Matam" (Mourning) My dad replied. Hey, if life doesn't make you laugh youre clearly not getting the joke. And if a Karbalayi Sayid can laugh at the sectarian divide, maybe we could all do with a chuckle or two.
you are right, the time has changed yet the circumstances remain the same, just as you are afraid of being lynched, many Hindus are afraid of you lot. we worry about the things that might trigger you to take up swords and behead us, we worry about the fact that this religion have gangs in certain states where they try to convert the girl from her religion with false pretext of marriage. the list will go on my friend and i could write paragraphs about why the Ummah is not faring well in India. Maybe some scets are just not supposed to mingle, because all that brings is bloodshed and well well, History of the Ummah has been so very red indeed.
“Prior to the Safavids, Persia was not known for its Shia scholars” (8:16) Hmmm really? Some major Shia scholars who had fundamental roles and happen to be Persian: Shaykh Tabarsi, Shaykh Tusi, Ibn Babawayh, Muhammad ibn Ya'qub al-Kulayni etc
@@turan_kaya my friend….🙄please talk about things that you have the knowledge to not embarrass yourself. Clearly you have no idea who these people are…and nor about the Shia and “Islam in Persia”
You're taking it way out of context, there was obviously shia scholars in Iran however Persia was known as a place of deep rooted sunni scholarship hence why many of the greatest sunni scholars were actually of Persian descent
@@adamheydari I totally agree that many Sunni scholars were from Persia, but this doesn’t imply that it wasn’t also known for its Shia scholars! Persia was the place for all kinds of Islamic scholarship, from the most famous Muslim mathematicians, philosophers, and even Arabic grammarians like Sibawayh, you can find Persian scholars!
@@mohsen6274 before the safavid conquest and the forced conversation of the population, Persia was in fact NOT known for shia scholars. It was a deeply sunni place.
@@AliAli-kg7od Agreed bro but. What Ahl e Bait said Shia ,Sunni all have different versions of that . That's why focusing more on Quran is much better .
The first Shi'a was Hazrat Salman Farsi R A, and many Persians were shia in kufa and persia at the Time of Hazrat Ali A S. but majority was non Shia. When Imam Ali Reza A S went to Khorasan , the Persians accepted the true faith of Islam (leaving the political Nawasibi Deen) after learning , understanding the TRU DEEN through his speaches and debates. The third wave of Shiaism was in IRAN when Mangol king Khuda Banda appointed The great Scholer Sheikh Tusi R A as the chief Qazi, after he crushed the anti SHIA Ulema in debates. In his time more then half of Iran was Shia. Rest were converted by Debates during SAFAVI PERIOD and still till today it is an ongoing process.
I think it very much speaks to the overall cultural influence of Persia and how different places received it, i.e. South Asians receiving it through the adoption of (Sunni) Islam under the Persian empire whilst in Lebanon, it mainly comes from the close relationship with Iran that started out with that movement of scholars from Jabal Amel (which is majority Shi'a) so as a result, you see that culturally, South Asian Muslims regardless of sect (but are by a vast majority Sunni) resemble Shi'as in Lebanon more than the Sunnis in Lebanon (and I guess this is true for other parts of the fertile crescent but idk for sure)
Brother, Persian Influence only came in Lebanon in the 80s or by some in the end of 70s during the Lebanese civil war and the the Israeli occupation of Lebanon. I don't think that there is any authentic sources that claims any Persian Influence in Lebanon. But it was there in that region way before Islam during the Archemanid, Sassanid Empires, etc. When the whole of Iran, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Iraq, Syria,Jordan, Lebanon, Palestine and parts of Saudi Arabia were under the rule of early Persian empires.
@@shortclips4267 he’s an idiot don’t listen to him the first shias we’re literally from south of Lebanon I can’t remember which Imamع but a couple of his companions were literally exiled in sham in Lebanon specifically lol
"Mulla Salih Qazvini, writing about Isfahan toward the end of Safavid rule, reveals through an anecdote a sense of resentment against non-Muslims in power. He relates that a crazy man (majnun) from Isfahan complained to a general (emir) that in this town only the religiously impure (najis) had authority, rather than human beings. The general responded: ‘Indeed, the impure are the ones riding horses and donkeys, and me I am walking on foot’.The reference here to the impure is to non-Muslims, most probably Armenians and Georgians, who prevailed publicly in Isfahan, distinguishing themselves through their status that allowed them access to horses". Page - 47, The Slaves of the Shah.
Excellent clear coverage of history, thank you. Can you please do a video about the history of the Armenians and the Persians, we are very close to each other, and once, we had the same faith, Zoroastrianism until we accepted Christianity in 302 AD, the Persians remained Zoroastrians until the Arab conquest of Persia, carried out by the Rashidun Caliphate from 633 to 654 AD.
That's because Armenia was ruled by a Parthian Ascarid nobility from Persia. Armenia became first kingdom to embrace Christianity under Tridates IV, I guess. Armenians and Georgians were essential ethnic components of Safavid empire, when the Safavid kings tried to remove center of power from Turkic Qizalbash, who were often intriguing against each other.
At 03:18 - - - - > Just to point out Iman Hassan is not the father of Imam Hussain therefore succession is not from father to son (not even to the eldest child in all circumstances) but rather to one specific male from the linage.
Imam Hassan is the older brother of Imam Hussein both sons of Ali the cousin and son in law of Mohamed (Saw). Imam Hassan and Iman Hussein are the grand sons of Mohamed (Saw). Imam Hussein was killed in the battle of Karbala Iraq. Imam Hassan died in Medina Saudi Arabia. In old Arabic times succession was from father to eldest son. If the eldest son dies the succession goes to the second eldest son.
Iranian Persians stand out in my mind as a people whose culture is imprisoned by their leaders. They are the descendants of people whose technological superiority allowed them to rule a vast empire, whose art and culture was high above its contemporaries. The art coming out of Iran, now, makes it's way through heavy censorship and with little or no financial support from state sources, and it is stunning how good it is. Many of us in the US don't bother to know the distinction between the Persians and Arabs, between Shia and Sunni. Even then, what we see of Persian Shia culture stands out above their neighbors in the Middle East.
We persian were once america of our time from cyrus the great to parthians and to sasanian zoroastrian empires but then islam comes at the doorstep of persia(iran) and completely changes the history for us. 14 centuries of arab savage islamic culture ruined great persia to the ground but we the new generations of iran are learning abour our background and we will do our best to get our true zoroastrian persian identity back. for the info this video does now show how much shah ismail the creator of shia in iran tortured and killed many people and forced shia on everyone just like ummayad and abasid arab dynasties that forced sunni islam on iranians by sword and blood 14 centuries ago.
@@bletwort2920Were they forced to change their religion? Or aren't they still allowed to practice whatever they want? Because Islam said that Muslims are allowed to kill and rape anyone who doesn't accept Islam or preaches native religion. And it's still going on. Persians today are persecuted and harrased even tortured and killed for what they wear or many simple things like that, especially women because women are nothing in Islam but a breeding ground for giving birth to more Muslim soldiers. You know, there is a little difference between abandoning a religion, and humiliating and genociding a nation by the hands of other nation under the cover of religion (Islam). Which by the way is a religion that is represented by a prophet that married 7 years old child and engaged in more than 45 wars!
Thank you 👍🙏 Unfortunately we are stuck in middle east which is poisoned by the disease of Islam. And Islamic caliphates have killed millions of us throughout this 14 centuries. Islam preaches child- marriage, murder and torture and rape of non-believers and native nations. That's how they spreaded their religion. And my poor people were two times persecuted and got mass-killed and mass-raped throughout history, once by the hands of Sunni Muslmis when Omar conquered Persia in battlefield, second time by the hands of Shia Muslims and Seyyed Mullahs from within! And all of those Islamic nonsense are a cover for Arab colonialism and abusing and humilating other nations especially Persians.
We Iranians are no longer Muslims and are disillusioned with the religion; we are neither Shia nor Sunni; we are Zoroastrians. However, we respect Arabs and Muslims who show us respect.
I am persian muslim historically I was zartosh but it doesn't mean I practice that religion now, because that's old religion when we were misguided after islam preached to us by salman farsi we accepted and became muslim thanks to God
Your not zero Astrian you were misguided and living g in the dark ages who worshipped stones and planets. You can't hate education and guidance. If you don't like civilisatio and humanity that was bought and taught to you by Islam then feel free to worship the sun. No one care, but don't speak for everyone who don't represent your thoughts. You can't even respect women. If you want to be civilised or zero Astrian learn to respect women
Well done lads! Added fun fact, the Institution for Learning, had so much knowledge contained in it, due to scholars coming from near and far, to exchange, shares ideas, what they had seen in the world, literature, economics, political, medical, agriculture, science, basic cultural differences- fabrics, cooking utensils...to this day, I still refer to Iran as Persia, out of old habits, certainly not being disrespectful...I'm NY 1962 Toms very British/Brazilian future wife MD, Veteran, Middle East & Cont. of Africa
The earliest report on cannibalism in this case comes from the Tarikh-i Shah Isma`il va Shah Tahmasb-I Safavi ( sometimes know also as Zayl-I habib al-siyar) of Khwandamir`s son Amir Mahmud, completed around 1550. Mahmud writes that after the rout, Shah Isma`il was presented with enemy who had been captured alive and he asked them about Shibani Khan`s fate. They said that he had not escaped and a search of the battlefield would likely turn up his body. In Mahmud`s words: When Ismail`s bloody-minded warriors of faith (ghaziyan) heard this from two commanders, they began an intensive search. After much rummaging, they found the body, bearing no wound or cuts, under a pile of slain Uzbeks. They immediately severed the head and brought it to the victorious king, but when he saw this he demanded the whole malice-filled body. Sword-girding countries immediately presented the body, and the brave hero first struck its belly three times with his sword and then said: whoever among our sincere soldiers (qurchiyan-I kasir al-ikhlas) and special servants (mulaziman-I kasir al-ikhtisas) lovesout imperial head (sar-navvab-I humayun-I ma) should partake of the flesh of this enemy. Truthful people present at the event have reported that such a crowd then rushed in upon the body of that impure being that a number of people were injured. Those were far from the body purchased morsel of flesh from those who were near and consumed them. The way they ate this raw, impure (haram) meat, caked with dirt and blood, surpassed the relish with which starving hemp addicts must wolf down the roasted meat of a fattened lamb in moments of being beset by hunger and the cravings of their drug habit.
Holy shiite this sent me down a rabbit hole. Dunno about Ismail himself partaking in the feast, but I did read about the "Chegins" and how they attack and eat anyone like a dog should the Shah point them to it.
@@hisholiness4537 It was not Shah Ismail but Shah Abbas I. The most detailed report on these cannibals comes from Junabadi`s Rawzat al-safaviyya (completed in 1626: Another squad among the types of people (used to instill fear) was under the command of the chief herald Malik Beg Isfahani and was known as chigiyyin (from Turkish cig, war or uncooked), or those who ear raw meat. These people were also a tool for torturing and making (the king`s) fury. They would take each person among a group of condemned people one by one and would proceed to bite off and swallow their noses and ears. This was followed by using teeth to cut off the victims` other organs, which were also eaten, until all the condemned were gradually stripped of their lives. This squad also wore a distinctive dress, marked by bulky, tall hats with no turbans that sat a small measure down on their heads and were adorned on the sided with brunches of cranes and owls` feathers. Most members of the two groups appointed to torture the condemned were tall, massive men with terrible faces.
@@hisholiness4537 The first source to mention cannibalism is the Lubb al-tavarikh, whose author, Sayyid Yahya Qazvini (d. 1555), states that he was accompanying the Safavid army during the expedition. According to Qazvini, Chulavi prepared to defend himself from the assault by gathering his garrisons into reliable forts, but Isma`il was able to eliminate the front guard of the defenses at the forts of Gulkhandan and Firuzkuh quite easily. Chulavi’s domains were, at this time, host to remnants of the Aqquyunlu Turkic federation, the rulers of Iran prior to the rise of the Safavids, who were aiding him in the hope of reversing their earlier defeat at Ismaºil’s hands. An Aqquyunlu commander named Murad Beg Jahanshahlu and Chulavi decided to ensconce themselves in the fort of Usta, resorting to self-preservation in the face of the advancing army. Safavid forces were unable to capture this fort until a month later, when a scheme was devised to divert the river that passed through the fort and was its water supply. The garrison capitulated in the face of thirst and, at this point, Qazvini writes simply that the victors “cooked Murad Beg on fire and the revengeful soldiers devoured his flesh.”
many many many researches about shia islam have gone the wrong direction because they recognize Safavid dynasty as the main reason for that matter, but they always fail to see two other very huge reasons: first: cruelty of sunny arab kalifs and kings vs kindness of Muhammad pbuh Ali pbuh and his childeren toward Iranians , and second: presence of Ali ibn Musa pbuh the eighth imam in their country Iran
Shah Ismail was a baby when his father got killed. His mother was a Greek Princess Martha. Greeks hated Ottomans who also killed her husband. She moves with baby Ismail to Shiraz Iran. There Ismail was taught and raised by this one Shia scholar and at later years of Ismail he was moved by this scholar to Northern part of Iran to acquire farther training in Shia school of thought and that’s when everything in Shah Ismail began to turn Iran to Shia. In his writings and poems he declared himself as 12th Immam that Shias were waiting for him for centuries.
@@dacostaayimolou8273 there’s no such a thing as the end of the world. It’s an end of an era and beginning of the new era. Sort of like for example the end of high school is a beginning to go to university the end of university is a beginning to a new job etc.
They may have been Iranians or Turks, or even of Kurdish or Arabic origin, but their appeal was religious rather than ethnic or tribal. Devotion to the Safavid order was widespread among the Türkmen tribes of Azarbayjan and Anatolia. Safavid followers wore a distinctive red turban and were known as Qizilbash, or “red-heads.” The Safavid order was both Sufi and Shiite in orientation, and it is thanks to the Safavids that Iran is a Shiite country today. Religious overtones aside,in most other respects theirs was a typical turkish dynasty. As late as the 1660s and 1670s, a Frenchman at the Safavid court could still write: “Turkish is the language of the armies and of the court; one speaks nothing but Turkish there, as much among the women as among the men, throughout in the seraglios of the great; this comes about because the court is originally of the country of this language, descended from the Türkmens, of whom Turkish is their native tongue. Jeroen Duindam (2016). Dynasties: A Global History of Power, 1300-1800. Cambridge University Press. p. 136. ISBN 978-1-107-06068-5.
Safavids also had many tendencies to the pre-Islamic past of Iran. And showing great interest in Shahnameh. And they put a name from ancient Iran that was in Shahnameh on their children's day.
so why all these turkish turkmen devoted thier sultanate to establish and flourish persian cutlure and language?? and please name one turkish person on sience or a poem in that era.
Shia means followers, We are followers of Ali (AS) and ahlul bayt (prophet's family).
Shia started from famous history of Ghadeer also recored in sunni books where Prophet (SAWW) says who call me Moula, Ali is his moula. When prophet (SAWW) died, abu bakr, + umer + other powerful people in saqifa made themselves caliph while Ali was unaware and was busy in greaving of Prophet's death. When sahabas (RA) saw it, they knew about GHADEER and so did not gave bayah to abu bakr. Even Ali didnot gave baya to abu bakr UNTIL ISLAM WAS IN DANGER. Not to forget abu bakr killing of sahabas in the crime that they denied paying their zakath even it was not zakath time. Then abu bakr and umer came to Ali's house, and hurted daughter of Prophet, Bibi Fatima (SA) who died along with Her child due to that incident. Another SUNNI HADITH: Where it even says that daughter of Prophet (SAWW) stopped even seeing abu bakr and umer until She died. DONT YOU GUYS THINK, Why grave of Prophet's daughter is STILL UNKNOW until day of today ?? Among other things.
Oh so killing sunnis to save them from getting killed?Is this your logic?Your name suggests you are hindu.Never make comments with half knowledge on Islamic history ever again.Now Iranians dont follow Islam because they were forced to be extreme Shias unfortunately.
As a atheist l don’t believe in any God but l find religion…particularly a religion where millions are prepared to die for it fascinating..excellent video by the way !.
Great informative video! The point of Ulema leaving the region is very important, because in Egypt under Ubaidids (So-called Fatimids) ulema took great role in defence of Sunni Islam.
According to historians,[18][19] including Vladimir Minorsky[20] and Roger Savory, the Safavids were of Turkicized Iranian origin:[21] From the evidence available at the present time, it is certain that the Safavid family was of indigenous Iranian stock, and not of Turkish ancestry as it is sometimes claimed. It is probable that the family originated in Persian Kurdistan, and later moved to Azerbaijan, where they adopted the Azari form of Turkish spoken there, and eventually settled in the small town of Ardabil sometimes during the eleventh century.
1. Shah Abbas' famous palace historian Iskender Bey Muneshi (1560-1634) notes that Sheikh Safi is called a Turkish youth in his work. In this work, it is stated that during the trip to Shiraz, Persian sheikhs called Sheikh Safi as a Turkish youth. Emir Abdullah addresses Sheikh Sâfî as follows: -O Turkish youth! Thanks to your diligence, diligence and high deeds, your grace has reached our eyes until now. According to the same work, Persian sheikhs are not the only people who call Sheikh Sâfî a Turkish youth. Sheikh Zahid Geylani also mentions Sheikh Safi as a Turkish youth. 1666-1694 `` There is a work called / Silsiletü'n-Neseb-i Safevîyye / written on the lineage of the Safavids. Its author is Hüseyin Zahidî, son of Pizade Şeyh Abdal, descendant of Sheikh Zahid, who is the leader of Sheikh Safi. In both parts of this valuable work, Şeyh Sâfî was known as the Turkish piri. It is understood from the sources that the native language of Sheikh Sâfî in the black magazine, which is considered one of the main books of the Safeviyye order, is Turkish. It is clearly stated in the Kara Mecmua, which is considered as one of the main books of the Safeviyye order, that the native language of Sheikh Sâfî is Turkish and that his followers speak in this language. The famous safvetü's-Safa, on the other hand, introduces himself as the Turkish son of Sheikh Sâfî, Turk. “Pire Ahmed perniki Germrûdi told from Mevlana İsma'il (rh.a); he said: I was in the presence of Mawlana Izzeddin Merağı (rh.a.) and the sheikh (pbuh). He was busy with nice words. That twitter said, 'O community of caliphs! Pray to Hace Sadrettin that the throne of Sheikh Zahid and me, Turkoglu Turk, has won the throne for himself with his own power. '' The same event is described in the Turkish translation of Safvetü's-Sâfâ in Sheikh Sâfî tezkiresin: “Pire Ahmed of Bernik narrated; Who should be from Mawlana Ismail? He said: Marağalu Mevlana Izzeddin was the servant of Hazret-i Sheikh (k.s.) and His Holiness Sheikh (k.s.) was busy in the language-pezir word. In the middle of the word he said: Caliphs! Please pray to Hace Sadrettin who was the son of a Turk who took the throne of Sheikh Zahid and my menu place. '' There is an anonymous safevi history book written in Persian in 1675-76 AD: / Târih-i Alemara-yı Shah İsma'il / In this work, Eminüddin Cebrail, the father of Sheikh Safi, the ancestor of Shah Ismail and the founder of the Safavid order, is referred to as the Turkish dervish. Some of the Safavid sources recorded Turkish youth for the ancestor of Shah Ismai, Sheikh Safi. In his work titled Füthât-ı Şahî, heratlı İbrahim Emini, who is the historian of the Palace of Shah İsmail, is referred to as a Turkish piri and Turkish youth from Sheikh Sâfî.
@@IAm-xt2kp Shah abbas insulted turks safavid was iranian deal whit it scholars that Safavids originated in Iranian Kurdistan and moved to Iranian Azerbaijan, settling in Ardabil in the 11th centuryZ. V. Togan, "Sur l’Origine des Safavides," in Melanges Louis Massignon, Damascus, 1957, III, pp. 345-57] . Accordingly, these scholars have considered the Safavids to be of Kurdish descent based on the origins of Sheykh Safi al-Din and that the Safavids were originally a Iranic speaking clan [Heinz Halm, Shi'ism, translated by Janet Watson. New Material translated by Marian Hill, 2nd edition, Columbia University Press, pp 75] [Ira Marvin Lapidus. "A History of Islamic Societies", Cambridge UniversityPress, 2002, p. 233] Tapper, Richard, FRONTIER NOMADS OF IRAN.
Thanks & Jazaak Allah for giving this comprehensive overview of Shi'a in Iran. Imam Ja'afar and Imam Raza did not explicitly propagate any separate sect of Shi'a under various Abbasid caliphs. Yet, Shi'a sect identity continued in various pockets of Abbasid realm, right through the Turkic resurgence under Zangis and Seljuqs. Can you also do a ptogramme on that earlier evolution of Shi'a?
You can find a translation dating from 1831 by Frederik Rosen here of Al-Khawarizmi’s Algebra. The author’s preface says things like: “Praise be to God for his bounty … He sent Mohammed … with the mission of a prophet … My confidence rests with God, in this as in every thing, and in Him I put my trust … May His blessings descent upon all the prophets and heavenly messengers!” This doesn’t seem like the words of someone who was coerced into the religion. Nor was this type of writing expected at the time. Al-Khwarizmi was one of the scholars of the House of Wisdom, and it wasn’t even required that those who were at the House of Wisdom be Muslim. For example, Hunayn ibn Ishaq was an Arab Christian and a prominent translator and physician, and he certainly wasn’t forced to convert.
we know and we are proud of it . there is no way to be a Sunni and Iranian at the same time. areas that resisted the Arab invasion converted to Shia islam from the start . Shia areas like north of Iran became the heartland of Persian culture. even ferdowsi was a Shia . Iran would have died without Shia
@@sina-alavi1962 Lmao say that to the Tajiks who are Sunni Persians in North Afghanistan. Thanks to the Pashtuns the Safavids couldn’t get that far 😂 You can’t take the fact that shiism came to Iran by force. You are commenting on an academic video specifically about this subject and you still deny and tell yourself lies to sugarcoat what happened. Iran was always sunni and will become sunni again no doubt. You talk of ferdowsi, a poet who praised Umar (ra) in his shanahma, but I can speak of Ibn sina, Rumi, ghazali, Hafez, shirazi, Al Biruni, Al Razi, rudaki, Jami, I could go on about Irans great sunni legacy but no mr Alavi over here says otherwise 😭😭😂😂😂🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️💀💀💀💀💀😭
@@zccau2316 ok for a logical debate will be a logical answer . Shia history in Iran started at north . in gilan and Mazandaran. only two areas that survived the Arab invasion . they became Shia by choice not by blade and also the cities like qom and rey that retained autonomy by paying higher taxes became Shia from the start . and about the poem that are claimed to be from ferdowsi . they are proven to be fake . and added later . also ibn sina was a Shia . he is hated in older Sunni sources just read a little about how he was treated . and just look at how al razi was called a Zindiq and treated so badly by Sunnis . claim of them being Sunni just appeared after they became popular in Europe. and most importantly the most anti-Iranian Iranian u mentioned .imam Muhammad Ghazali. let just look at his writings in kimia e saadat. "Rather, Nowruz and Sadeh should not be mentioned and no one should name it, so a group of Salaf said that they should fast so that they do not eat those foods, and the night of Sadeh should not be lit so that they do not see fire at all. It was and should not be that the name of this day was branded in any way" the original text is old and hard to translate if u want I will send the Persian text for you. this is the great Sunni legacy u call . Sunni era in iran is not a sign of pride for us even this year's Nowruz was banned by many Sunni Tajik imams in Afghanistan . religious shias are highly patriotic in every country they live but religious Sunnis always end up rejecting their national identity like what ISIS did . I will wait for a answer if u have one.
@@sina-alavi1962 Shia Iran has not accomplished even a tenth of Sunni Iran in any field. Your entire modern culture is just larping and stealing Sunni Persian history .
@@hmmm3210 first of all study a little more. trash talking with likes of u is beneath me. represent a solid argument and I will respond accordingly and not a single Muslim country can claim that Iran is a slacker nation . we are the only hope for successful Islamic world .who is even trying to fight the western influence except us ? just tell me what have Sunni nations done in last century except getting fatter every day and doing less work than the days before it. what u have to scold us with ? what will u have without oil? all of u cant survived one week without American help .even if we accept your glorious Sunni history what about now? what you Sunnis have to take pride in the recent generations?
the Kurdish are mostly SUNNI , I use to work in Iraq, Qurdish there are Sunni and looks very cordial and happy looking people, and almost looks like North Indian.
A lot of Mughal stuff is "borrows" severely from Iran. The Mughals had the money, Iran had the experts. Spending was easy. Unless I'm mistaken the Nizams were shia for a long time, and so they borrowed from Iranian culture. Hyderabad (India) has one of the largest Iranian-Indian communities in modern India, and the food is also remarkable.
*THIS COMMENT SECTION* : 1-Sunnis who cope and say Iran should become Sunni again 2- Shias who cope and deny Shah Ismail ever did any persecutions 3-Iranians xoping about Safavids being Turkic 4-Turks coping about Safavids being called Kurdish in this video *THE REALITY* : Most of Southern and central Iran used to be *Sunni* when Safavids came to power. Persecutions against minority religions *did* happen. The *Shia* faith existed in Iran long before but it was continuously persecuted by Umayyad and Abbasid caliphs. *Qara Qoyunlus* were the first major Shia state to rise to power in Iran since the *Buyids* and they were a Turkic speaking tribe who strengthened Shia faith in Northern and North Western Iran (Tabriz and Hamedan) until Safavids came to power and declared Shi'ism the *official* religion. The origin of Safavids is still debated but many believe his father Sheikh safi ad-din ardabili was a Sufi Kurd, so he was of Kurdish *ORIGIN* but doesn't mean he *Identified* as a Kurd. Ethnicity and Genetics are not the same and he was highly ispired by the QaraQoyunlus that he converted to the Shia faith and avenged them by destroying theif Rival "Aq Qoyunlu" after Qara Qoyunlus were defeated. He also spoke Azerbaijani Turkish, made mutiple poems in Azeri Turkish and called himself a *TURK* with no evidence of him ever speaking *Kurdish* .
May Allah reward you my brother, you are so knowledgeable I liked your other comment I swear the part where the guyy side “iran never produced famous shia scholars prior to Safavids” I cringed so hard the owner of this channel isn’t really knowledgeable. Shaykh Al Tusi (Rh) Buyid era almost 500 years before Safavids Shaykh Saduq (RH) also buyid era and finally thiqat al Islam al shaykh al kulayni (RH) also near buyid era all big scholars before Safavids even existed
Indeed, you're right But then again, the differences between the Shi'a majorities and Sunni majorities are ultimately menial compared to differences between Catholicism-Orthodoxy-Protestants in Christianity, Rabbinical-Samaritan-reformed in Judaism, Theravada-Mahayana-Vajrayana in Buddhism, whatever the hell of the sects and offshoots of Hinduism has and other examples of non-Islamic Faiths Sunnis and Shi'as can ultimately could potentially reconciliates better, could working in pragmatic politics better, while have more than often to prays in congregations alongside celebrates major Islamic Holidays together than any other denominations, schools and sects of other Religions
sooo much ignorance, havent even wikipediaed irans history! iranian people always resented the sunni overlords.irans history in full of shia rebellion against sunni tyrannical rulers.maziar, babak, Gharen, abumoslem,Ya'qub ibn al-Layth al-Saffar, hassan sabbah,ziarids,buyids,Khurshid of Tabaristan,Alid dynasties of northern Iran ,etc mostly shia rebellion.iranians mostly protected their identity through shia islam and persian language
This is literally modern propaganda to legitimise the current regime lol . The Iranian Sunnis were also persianate and didn't arabise anything. Fyi the Sunni revolt against the Shia oppression in the east of the empire is what created Afghanistan so your one dimensional bs doesn't hold up.
@@hmmm3210 yes i know,irans regime is cruel and the thing i wrote helps its propaganda but that doesnt mean its wrong,please Wikipedia the examples i made and you will be informed.
@@whiteholeeducationcenter you think as an iranian i dont know anything about irans history that i should Wikipedia these points,how many examle did i make? Are you assuming that all of them is wrong.did you search all the real sources and figur out that the wikipedia is wrong?what made me angry was the least the video maker and his team could do is wikipedia the history and they didn't
Prophet Mohammed(PBUH) in his lifetime had said many great things about Ali(S.A.) as per authentic Hadith, Ali(S.A.) was in forefront to win many important battles of Islam, a scholar & loyal member of Ahlulbait or the first family of Prophet Mohammed(PBUH) Ali(S.A.) was the chosen one & blessed by Almighty Allah as the successor of Prophet Mohammed(PUBH)
No matter what the history of Iran was, we have to admit that these Shias have done more for Palestinians than any other Muslim nation. No matter if its in Lebanon or Yemen. Despite having little technologically advanced weapons, their resistance against zionist have embarrassed Muslim countries from Turks all the way to Saudi Arabia.
Those that created the theology of the Sunni sect were 90% Persian imams (Imam Bukhari, Imam Muslim, Imam Tirmidhi, Imam Abu Hanifa, Imam Hanbali, Imam Sajistani, Imam Abu Dawwod, Imam Ghazali...). Those that created the theology of Shiaism are all Arab Imams with the first convert to Islam Imam Ali and are in Prophet Mohamad's family (Imam Ali, Imam Hassan, Imam Hussein & the rest of the 12 imams).
How would Iran be different to what it is now if it had remained Sunni?
Early Modern History Playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLiPhmAD3I2JwdVOt4lI39d3XENLktUgP5.html
Or how different would Iran be had it never converted to Islam at all?
@@McVaySwifty the iran iraq war was initiated by saddam hussain and pretty sure he was an atheist at that time
@@briang813 probably still fighting against colonialism of britain USA and russia
real q is: can it become sunni again?
early time Islam in Iran was almost Sunni not Shia
Most of the polymaths in the Islamic golden age were Persians. Whether they were Sunni or Shia, Persians always contributed to Islamic civilisation. Polymaths such as Ibn Sina , Al- Biruni , Al- Khwarizmi , Al- Razi, Al Tusi, Tabari and Al Ghazali and so many others were all Persian.
They were all pretty much sunni. Let's be honest.
@@yorgenibnstrangle3072 nah
@@AfG_313 are you shia??
@@yorgenibnstrangle3072
They were all Muslims.
AND just that matters
@Proxy there is no Sunni in Islam either
Excellent work as always!
A pleasure collaborating with you again!
Thank you man, the pleasure was all mine!
@@HikmaHistory good videos but a lot of detail regarding the time during the imams was missed out
Watch "Massacre of Karbala: A Historical Analysis - Dr. Yasir Qadhi" 10th Nov 2013, Jabraeil جان بری means "lifetaker, life cutter, assassin.
@ No lol don’t watch that, watch Ammar nakshawani
@@pantrywarriors9577 Do you guys know anything beside lol? you mean crying out load?
Quran is written by judeo-sunni 70 years after the Prophet's assassination.
There was no concept of GOD until the last few centuries, there was a Good and Bad concept.
Thanks to Shias and Persians, Islam was created after martyrdom of Prophet Mohammad and virtually all his decedents in Karbala. Christianity was born after the martyrdom of Eesa Messiah (aka Jesus).
Jens/Jews/Zionists Martyred the most powerful and untouchable men Eesa Messiah and prophet Mohamad and virtually all his descendants, then forced everybody to remain silent and submit to them by fasting and bowing to them 5 times a day.
Sunni (Farsi word: سلطنتی or سلطانی) means royal lineage or monarchy. Hashem is a title in Farsi حاکم, it means the ruler or governor for a particular time and place. Hashemite is (حاکمان) the collection of the governors. The assassination of prophet Mohammad and the massacre of Karbala which was planned and executed by the Hashem of that time Yazid (same as Yazidis) made them the landlord of Kaaba in Mecca, it was owned by prophet Mohammad and his brothers. Shia شاهد witnesses [of assassination of the prophet and the Karbala massacre] was born. The current Hashem can be seen in the TH-cam video "Documentary on the two holy mosques" at 1:52 time.
There is a curious parallel between the Sunni/Shia struggle in Iran and the Catholic/Protestant conflict in England (and elsewhere) during the same period - both ending around 1600 with successful conversion to the newer faith.
Its the use of aristotelian thinking, instead of the more mystical Platonism, applied to islamic religious philosophy and Christian religious philosophy, that shift in influence can be seen paralleled in Protestant philosophocal developpment both in Germanic and English territories at about thw same time.
This also affected the approaches to religious and political thought, as could be perceived in the difference in say The Spanish contra reforma vs anglo germanic reform, and how it affected the regions colonized by each religious approach. The differences between latin american ex colonies and British excolonies. This is all a working hypothesis of mine that I have been developping thru decades of study.
@@aminrodriguez4707 *neoplatonism
@@aminrodriguez4707 actually a greater paralel would be shia did to islam what St Paul did to christianity. great scholars such as manzoor numani have written about this. St Paul (Rabbi Saul) "converted" to christianity after he realised murdering them wont kill the new monotheistic religion so he wrote book s and influenced it from the inside. and instead of being 1 God the new religion of Christ the messiah turned into 3 in 1 In fact St. Luke who wrote a bible was a student of Rabbi Saul. The furthur the authors of the bible are from the birth of Christ the more pro son of God they are.
Shia means followers, We are followers of Ali (AS) and ahlul bayt (prophet's family).
Shia started from famous history of Ghadeer also recored in sunni books where Prophet (SAWW) says who call me Moula, Ali is his moula.
When prophet (SAWW) died, abu bakr, + umer + other powerful people in saqifa made themselves caliph while Ali was unaware and was busy in greaving of Prophet's death. When sahabas (RA) saw it, they knew about GHADEER and so did not gave bayah to abu bakr. Even Ali didnot gave baya to abu bakr UNTIL ISLAM WAS IN DANGER.
Not to forget abu bakr killing of sahabas in the crime that they denied paying their zakath even it was not zakath time.
Then abu bakr and umer came to Ali's house, and hurted daughter of Prophet, Bibi Fatima (SA) who died along with Her child due to that incident.
Another SUNNI HADITH: Where it even says that daughter of Prophet (SAWW) stopped even seeing abu bakr and umer until She died.
DONT YOU GUYS THINK, Why grave of Prophet's daughter is STILL UNKNOW until day of today ??
Among other things.
@@syedbaqir2687 no, you are from the nawasib, not the followers of Ahl al bayt, your forefathers were amongst the killers of Al Hussain ( a.s )
1:06 Persia before the Safavids
1:24 Beginning of Safavid rule
Qizilbash (Early Safavid army)
Shah Ismail I (first Safavid ruler)
5:26 Religious persecution
7:53 Migration of Shia scholars to Persia & a comparatively moderate approach
10:12 Shia identity in Safavid dynasty
Qizilbashs are 🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿
can you not
@@Can_I_sleep_without_depressionqizilbash are mixed in origins. Many different ethnic groups
I have not seen a more accurate and helpful explanation of this part of history. Explains alot. Thank u❤️
Glad you enjoyed it!
Well you not read much then. This biased history from veiled sectarian bigot
@Engineer Manufacture what load of ignorant rubbish by sectarian bigot
@Engineer Manufacture The level of your true intellect. Insults is that all you got filthy akhlaq you sectarian bigot
So now you realised Shia is a innovation and bidah' rite ? And it is the very same thing that prophet Muhammad pbuh warned us often !!!
Great topic to talk about! Turks first encountered the caliphate but learnt more about islam from the Persians. Most of the Islam related words that we use today stems from the Persian language. For example we don't say Salat. We use Namaz.
Turkic tribes allied themselves with Arab caliphate and attacked Sassanian Iran, so Turkic people have been in touch with Islam a lot earlier than Iranians have and their conversions was done smoothly, with less problematic issues because Turkic people were all shamans and had no specific religion with no specific set of rules to make them resist Islam (as opposed to Iranians who were originally Zoroastrians, Crhistians, Jews, Agnostics etc).
Namah plus Aaj..prayers for today..Iran was heavily influenced with hindostan
@@zyT175 truth is that most of the language sciences and races originated from Hindostan..to the chagrin of others
agnostics iran and turkic help in the invasion of sasanid empire. you are very funny dude@@marmary5555
you know name hindostan is persian @@ango586
Very interesting, because for the first 1000 years, Persia produced many famous Sunni scholars. Shia as a majority sect. has only been in Iran for approximately 400-500 years. They have been Sunnis longer than they have been Shias.
Iran become a dumb nation when shiaism forcefully introduced to them. You see in western world, majority of Iranians are athiest because of shia beliefs that is contrary to Islam
Name the scholars
@@hojboj3222 the Muslim scholars of Persian/Farsi/ Iranian descent were Imam Abu Hanifa, imam Bukhari, imam Ghazali Tusi, great sufi masters like Bayazid Bistami, Abu Hasan Kharaqani, Abu Ali Farmedi, great poets Rumi, Saadi Shirazi, Hafiz, Omar Khayyam, Abdul Rahman Jami. The list is too long.
ALL SUNNI PERSIANS..
I am an educated Sunni, sufic, Muslim in UK.
There are fanatics in all countries, Iran has its large share.
ORIGINAL IRANIANS WERE SUNNI - simple fact, forced by Safavis by the sword.....
@@ottomanfoundationtrust they are religious scholars
@Ottoman Foundation Trust I think Iran and Turkey has always been mixed population of Sunni and Shia until the Ottoman (Sultan Salim) & Safavid THEY BOTH FORCED CREED BY THE SWORD
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Love your worldbuilding videos pal
Thank you my man!
Safavid dynasty was Iranian Empire of Kurdish Iranic origin there ancestry Firuz-Shah Zarrin-Kolah , Sadr al-Dīn Mūsā and Safi-ad-din Ardabili they all are Shah Ismail ancestors who are all Kurdish origin there flag lion and sun flag which was Iranian flag with more 3000 years history was 100 percent Iranian Empire the name of the Safavid kings use to be finish by Persia like Abbas I of Persia also know Shah Abbas The Great who killed many Turkic people in Iran the dynasty if you don't know history don't open your mouth read 1 book about Safavid dynasty before you open your mouth read this one Safavid Iran: Rebirth of a Iranian Empire that very famous book about the Safavid dynasty of PERISA they were very good form at killing Turkic peoples Shah Ismail killed 80,000 Azeri in Tabriz and many Turkic peoples in Central Asia force them to eat dead body Shah Abbas The Great was the master of killing Turkic people he killed the Turkic in Iran army it is clear that they was IRANIAN everyone know that turkic propaganda will not work
@@brightburnedits4278 lmao cope
@@CataciousAmogusevic kid pls.
the number of turkish special forces in the comments is greater than the ottoman forces that fought the safavids
LOL
Turks are the king of the claiming. Safavid was never turk they was true iranians whit kurdish origin it is clear.
@@brightburnedits4278 they won't admit it, brother. If it was possible for them to manipulate the whole world, they would've claimed the starting point of humanity, Hazrat Adam (a.s) to be of Turkic origin too. 😂
@@haadihassan7922 Exactly😆😆😆😂
I don't hold any grudge against them, but some of their claims are so delusional and without any evidence. Like they claim Azerbaijanis to be of Turkic descent, Azerbaijan's language and culture is derived from the Turkic languages and cultures but their genealogy doesn't match with them, there was a study carried out sometime ago which lead to the conclusion that genetically Azerbaijanis were mostly Persian and only some of them had a few percent of Turkic genes among them but more Kurdish and Persian (Iranic). You can check the study of genes I'm talking about, because i have forgotten the name particularly, but I'm damn sure it's still available there, you should check that. I think it can be easily found if searched.
I'm from South Lebanon (Jabal Amil), and family lore has it that my ancestors were amongst the scholars that migrated to Persia. My grandfather even wrote a book about this called التشيّع بين جبل عامل وإيران (Shiism between Jabal Amel and Iran). It's a shame that appart from Shias few Lebanese are aware of this history despite the enormous impact it had on modern history
Yes in my city in iran some of iranians have jabal amili ancestors. Their family name is Amelil or jabal Amili
Salam brother, my great grandfather actually came from Jabal Amil and came to Kashan a town in central Iran to preach. It's so good to hear from you ♥️♥️♥️
@@alijafari1008 ❤️🌹❤️
So cool
@Engineer Manufacture this IS true .i know some Iranien they tell me same History . iranien IS nationlist country
Passing Imamat down from father to son is generally true, but the next imam isn't necessarily the son of the present imam. For example, the second imam was Hasan ibn Ali (PBUH) and the third imam was Husayn ibn Ali (PBUH), and they were brothers. Despite Imam Hasan's had many sons,
The reason why Hussain became imam was because hasans kids were too young.
@@ammsarmerchn2841 an imam is designated from birth. Imam Ali al sajad the son of Imam Hussain a.s had an older brother (Ali al akbar) but Ali al akbar was not the Imam regardless of age
You see the logo.It is a Sunni Islamic channel.what they want say omar send islam to iran With peace (Historians say he slaved thousands of iranian women and raped them)but Ismael forcibly converted millions of people to Shiism with a small group.
@@ammsarmerchn2841 Imam Javad become Imam when he was 8 years old
I cant understand what you want to say, can you say it more clear
Now that you've covered how Iran became predominantly Shi'a Islamic country, will you do about Egypt and Sicily but in reverse too? After all, the Fatimids and the Kalbids were Shi'a dynasties but the peoples remained largely Sunni for those who are Muslims.
The Fatimids were Ismai’li not Ja’fari, they ruled Egypt but they never forced shi’ism on the population like Shah Ismail did. They ruled over a majority Sunni population and didn’t do much to change the demographics.
The Fatimids cared more about Arabisation of Egypt than Shia'sm of the population. You have to remember North Africa was never Arab. The Arabisation processes took centuries.
@ICE thank you for this information. Also yes I agree with you, Ismaili is not Islam.
@ICE may I ask which concepts make the Ismailis not muslims? I know Nizaris don’t follow the Shariah, although this is disputable, but Bohras offer prayers 5 times a day
@@IsmailBae-l9h Bohras are like Nizari Ismaili’s in that they adhere to “seven pillars of islam.” This is against the many hadiths in support of five and the centuries long consensus. Nizaris not following the Shariah isn’t a matter of dispute, aside from the fact that they also follow seven pillars, they give their “Agas” Zakat even though they are not of the ones prescribed in the Quran, and instead of hajj they visit the “Aga.” This is cult worship and shirk (associating partners with Allah).
If the first Safavid shah let himself be seen as the 12th imam how did the Safavids explain the fact that Judgement Day didn't happen during his lifetime? Great video by the way! Thanks.
No its just a propaganda against shah ismail
The almohads started off with a claim of being the Mahdi so I wonder about that too.
@@advisor8387 history= propaganda apparently
@@hmmm3210 quite early on in Islam alot of splinter sects had leaders who claimed too be the Mahdi alot of the time it was just political, basically of all these sects don't exist today
Because twelver shia Islam is a later innovation of the faith. The original shias are the zaidis shias.
Indeed, when Isma‘il captured Tabriz in 1501 he proclaimed himself in pre-Islamic Iranian political terms as Padishah-i Iran. In using the Persian term “Padishah,” to describe his status in “Iran,” he was repeating pre-Islamic Iranian political and geographical/political terminology that had only recently been revived by the Il-Khanid Mongols and used also by the Aq Quyunlu.
His invocation of these terms suggests he thought of himself as a political heir of hismatrilineal relatives, the Aq Quyunlu. The ancient term “Iran” had fallen out of use following the Arab-Muslim invasions and had not been used by the Caliphs, or their successors, the Samanids, or the many Turkic dynasties that succeeded them.
A final irony of Isma‘il’s use of the term “Iran,” or in one of his poems the phrasemulk-i ‘Ajam, the “state” or “kingdom of Iran,” is that even though Tabriz, Azerbaijan, and Mesopotamia represented provinces of the pre-Islamic Shahanshahs, the “kings of Kings” of Iran, there is no evidence that Isma‘il imagined himself to be reconstituting a new Iranian empire; rather he planned to establish a messianic Shi‘i state on Aq Quyunlu foundations.
Within the decade following his capture of Tabriz in 1501, Isma‘il occupied the geographic center of the pre-Islamic Achaemenid and Sasanian Iranian empires. He did so, though, with Oghuz tribes whose knowledge of the Shah-nama and the glories of pre-Islamic Iranian kingship was almost certainly limited to inchoate oral traditions.
Isma‘il was reconstituting the Aq Quyunlu state in these conquests, and like that of the Aq Quyunlu, the ultimate focus of his ambitions was eastern Anatolia, where his father and grandfather and he himself had proselytized among the Turks.
Dale, S. (2009). The rise of Muslim empires. In The Muslim Empires of the Ottomans, Safavids, and Mughals (New Approaches to Asian History, pp. 48-76). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. doi:10.1017/CBO9780511818646.005
Who on this sacred earth are you. Great stuff, thank you.
@ICE Taghe-khosrow was a famous place during history for Iranians and also Arabs mentioned this building as what remains from Sasanians also the heart land of persians was the modern pars province of Iran and Teasphon was an imperial city made by Phartians not their homeland...... also i have to mention that Safavids took control of Baghdad several times that's why people of south Iraq are Shia Muslims.
I don't wanna say that Safavids consider themselves as something like pre-islamic Iranian kings but they wanted to show their Identity like pre-islamic kings
If put it simply Safavids State as Iran (Persia) is an historical construction. Ismayil was Azerbaijani (Turkoman). Even his poems (divan) are written in Azerbaijani, and these poems can be easily understood by nowadays Azerbaijani. Ismayil was more interested in conquering Eastern Anatolia (Turkoman area) than so-called Persia because there were Turkic population. Safavids' aristocracy, ruling and military class were predominantly Turkic (Azerbaijani), there were little room for Persians indeed.
@ICE Azeri is English word for Azerbaijani nation, and I am not talking about small Iranian ethnos (Azeris), but about Azerbaijani Turkic Nation whose self-name is simply Türk. There is history as a science for such problems and no one besides persian nationalists think that Azerbaijani Turkic People are iranians.The Safavid state, with its tribal organization, both played a crucial role in the Turkification of the Azerbaijani provinces, and turned Turkic into a ubiquitous language in Iran. Because the governors appointed to govern the provinces were sent to them along with the tribes. It will not be a mistake to classify or praise the Safavid state as the state that had the largest number of Turkic elements of culture among all the states of Turkic origin in this area.
Padishah used by ottomans and mughals too its not only Persian name
Thank you brother! Fantastic job.
I am not a Muslim. But, I feel really sad to see that a very tolerant, open-minded and a scholarly group of people have turned into a society which is intolerant to knowledge. Most of the early day scholars didn't come from the West. They came from Middle East. Thanks for creating this video.
Being a Sunni Muslim and I was nourish in a sunni family never heard and teach from my parents to curse any of the companion of the beloved Prophet Muhammad SAW. Infact I was teach that the family of the Prophet was one of the pious and God loving people , his Companions where also a God loving people Indeed there was a a difference between the companion of Prophet Muhammad but cursing was not an option I was taught .we as a sunni Muslims belive in 10 pious companion of beloved Prophet Muhammad SAW who was granted paradise by Prophet Muhammad SAW when he was alive , Hazrat Ali and whole of his family was among them , in every Friday prayer we sunii send blessing to the family of Prophet and his companion so where from the verge of hatred comes in Shia.
Their hatred has came from envying the Islamic conquest of Iran. Dont you see why they celebrate the assassination of Caliph Umar?
Anyone who met/saw Prophet S and said he accepted Islam is called Sahaba (definition) and we all have to obey them. Now Allah is talking about Monafeqin in Quran. Then, please exclude Monafeqin from the list or we will obey the devil rather than the true Sahaba.
besides, why these so-called 10 pious companions fought each other to the dead. which one was the devil and which one was innocent?
@Saied Akbar Ahmady they Sahaba are the common people they are not the representative from the God just like messenger of God , with every Prophet their was an angel name Jibrael who reveal the message of God to this messenger , but companion of the Prophet Muhammad SAW was not spiritually connect with God like the messenger of God , so they were not aware about the matter of Unseen with this result their was a confusion create among them after the death of beloved Prophet Muhammad SAW , they fought with each other but we were inform by the Beloved Prophet Muhammad SAW that those 10 companion were the pious one whom Allah granted Jannah we are just obeying the commandments of beloved Prophet Muhammad, rest Allah know about their intentions they are themselves accountable for their deeds we are for our self , so instead of searching their fault and cursing them make our own action right , every individual is accountable for his deeds on day of Judgment we are not accountable for the thing which companion did..
That Hadith of the promised 10 to jannah is fake. It was fabricated. You as a Sunni can see it for yourself, as the list the names come in is exactly the order of the caliphs that ruled after the prophets death. The only problem is that the prophet selected Ali as his successor, so how would that order of him being 4th in that Hadith makes sense??? Sunni Islam is not the true path, it has been manipulated with and changed since after the prophet left this world. Shias have stayed true to the prophets words which is to follow the Quran and the teaching of his ahlul bayt. May Allah guide you
Don't take this the wrong way, but the hatred is very mutual.
Interesting - effectively it seems the existence of Afghanistan as an independent state separate to Iran is a consequence of this religious split.
Afghanistan has been separated forcefully by Britain from Iran for protection of India as British colony.
Shia means followers, We are followers of Ali (AS) and ahlul bayt (prophet's family).
Shia started from famous history of Ghadeer also recored in sunni books where Prophet (SAWW) says who call me Moula, Ali is his moula.
When prophet (SAWW) died, abu bakr, + umer + other powerful people in saqifa made themselves caliph while Ali was unaware and was busy in greaving of Prophet's death. When sahabas (RA) saw it, they knew about GHADEER and so did not gave bayah to abu bakr. Even Ali didnot gave baya to abu bakr UNTIL ISLAM WAS IN DANGER.
Not to forget abu bakr killing of sahabas in the crime that they denied paying their zakath even it was not zakath time.
Then abu bakr and umer came to Ali's house, and hurted daughter of Prophet, Bibi Fatima (SA) who died along with Her child due to that incident.
Another SUNNI HADITH: Where it even says that daughter of Prophet (SAWW) stopped even seeing abu bakr and umer until She died.
DONT YOU GUYS THINK, Why grave of Prophet's daughter is STILL UNKNOW until day of today ??
Among other things.
@@syedbaqir2687 So??
She is Here in SAUDI ARABIA 🇸🇦.
She is Qureshi and Quraish were Saudis not Shia Iraqi.
the anceint name of afghanistan was The Great khurasan ,that iran and pakistan and central asia was part of it, afghans kings such Mahmoud of ghaznawey ,tha ghouri dynasty , the Hotakeys and Ahmad shah abdali etc ruled iran for centries , iran had not had its own gouvernment for 950 years ,its ruled by other nations , such Arabs , Afghans , Uzbeks etc
@@ashvazdanghe the anceint name of afghanistan was The Great khurasan ,that iran and pakistan and central asia was part of it, afghans kings such Mahmoud of ghaznawey ,tha ghouri dynasty , the Hotakeys and Ahmad shah abdali etc ruled iran for centries , iran had not had its own gouvernment for 950 years ,its ruled by other nations , such Arabs , Afghans , Uzbeks etc
The Samanid Empire (Persian: سامانیان, romanized: Sāmāniyān) also known as the Samanian Empire, Samanid dynasty, Samanid amirate, or simply Samanids) was aempire,[8] from 819 to 999. The empire was centred in Khorasan and Transoxiana; at its greatest extent encompassing modern-day Afghanistan, huge parts of Iran, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and parts of Kazakhstan and Pakistan.
Four brothers-Nuh, Ahmad, Yahya, and Ilyas-founded the Samanid state. Each of them ruled territory under Abbasid suzerainty. In 892, Ismail Samani (892-907) united the Samanid state under one ruler, thus effectively putting an end to the feudal system used by the Samanids. It was also under him that the Samanids became independent of Abbasid authority.
Another note to add, Uzun Hasan of the Bayandir tribe (Ak koyunlu) conquered Iran under Shia Islam long before the Safavids and he also cooperated with them and laid the foundations for Shia Islam in Persia
Children of Shah Ismail still does the same work in Syria.
Lol
My Favorite Persians Ferdousi ,Al Khwarizmi were Sunni Muslim
You maybe Shia Today Iran but we love you From A Sunni Muslim
Ferdowsi was Shia (Ithna ashar or ismaili or Zeydi) or Zoroastrian not sunni,Toos was Shia city at that time
most iranians these days are either atheists or christians, the people resent the gov so much that are basically on the policy of any friend of the gov is my enemy or even anyone they like or look alike, i think fed up would be an understatement to the situation of the people but hey, we love you too! no matter what our gov decides to do or say we love all of the people around the world(excluding teenagers with nazi fetish ofc😂)
Yes
@@Pansistanishut up shia liar!
Ferdowsi was shia . If you really love him you have to read shahname then you will see how much he loved imam ali
This is really a complicated topic. No true Muslim would avoid respecting the prophet or his family. But this was taken to an extreme by the Shia proponents and unfortunately utilized as a political ploy. I feel sad for Iran
I would suggest you have look at the history of when Hassan Ibn Ali grandson of Prophet S signed a treaty with Mawia ibn Abu Sofyan to stop cursing Ali but he didn't comply with it and the whole Muslim community for hundreds of years was cursing Ali. This is while Ali was just like the prophet S himself according to many ayats of the Quran. Have a look into the translation of the following words that al-Shāfiʿī, the head of 4th Sunni school said about Ali.
علی حبه جنة
قسیم النار والجنة
وصی المصطفی حقا
إمام الانس والجنة
@@saiedakbarahmady1850 I thought Umar Ibn Abd Azis put an end towards the vile tradition and his successor Hisham Ibn Abd Malik despite his alleged rivalry with Imam Jafar as sadiq do not continue Umayyad cursing of Ali.
Just a little correction is that, before Safavids shiism did exist in Iran, just that with the Safavids it became heavily politicized
Love it! Thank you Hikma for teaching the world 🫡
Actually Iran also had a big population of zoroastrians in that time which have been killed or exilied or converted to shia.
The Samanid dynasty was founded by Saman Khuda, an 8th-century noble whose descendants, the House of Saman, later became rulers of Persis region, that is the Samanid Empire. He was a Dehqan from the village of Saman in Balkh province, in present-day northern Afghanistan.[12] The earliest appearance of the Samanid family appears to be in Greater Khorasan rather than Transoxiana.[13] In some sources, the Samanids claimed to be descended from the House of Mihran of Bahram Chobin. It has been claimed that the House of Saman belonged to the Oghuz Turks, although the veracity is unlikely.[13] Originally a Zoroastrian, Saman Khuda converted to Islam during the governorship of Asad ibn Abdallah al-Qasri in Khorasan,[14] and named his oldest son as Asad in the governor's honour.[15] In 819, the governor of Greater Khorasan, Ghassan ibn Abbad, rewarded the four sons of Al-Qasri for their aid against the rebel Rafi ibn al-Layth. Nuh ibn Asad received Samarkand; Ahmad ibn Asad received Farghana; Yahya ibn Asad received Tashkent, and Ilyas ibn Asad received Herat.[14]
Yes, only Indians care about Zoroastrianism so much because of their Aryan fascism sentiment
Yes,there was a mass genocide of that community and some flee to other countries like India…Zoorastrians are still there in India….
The Zoroastrians who came to India are called the Parsis or Iranis. They have integrated with the local population very well. Many Parsis like Ratan Tata, Dadabhai Navroji, Jamshetji Tata, Sam Manekshaw and many others have given immense contributions to India. Respect to Iranian brothers from Bharat.
The Samanid dynasty was founded by Saman Khuda, an 8th-century noble whose descendants, the House of Saman, later became rulers of Persis region, that is the Samanid Empire. He was a Dehqan from the village of Saman in Balkh province, in present-day northern Afghanistan.[12] The earliest appearance of the Samanid family appears to be in Greater Khorasan rather than Transoxiana.[13] In some sources, the Samanids claimed to be descended from the House of Mihran of Bahram Chobin. It has been claimed that the House of Saman belonged to the Oghuz Turks, although the veracity is unlikely.[13] Originally a Zoroastrian, Saman Khuda converted to Islam during the governorship of Asad ibn Abdallah al-Qasri in Khorasan,[14] and named his oldest son as Asad in the governor's honour.[15] In 819, the governor of Greater Khorasan, Ghassan ibn Abbad, rewarded the four sons of Al-Qasri for their aid against the rebel Rafi ibn al-Layth. Nuh ibn Asad received Samarkand; Ahmad ibn Asad received Farghana; Yahya ibn Asad received Tashkent, and Ilyas ibn Asad received Herat.[14]
Bax e Rey rise up
How would the house of saman belong to the oghuz turks when the oghuz turks only migrated to iran in the 11th century, which is way after the samanids? What a stupid thing to say…
@@Alborzhakimi7010Turks aren’t very intelligent 😂
Samangan Afghanistan the place the people you talking about
Is there a book you'd recommend on this subject? Or can you please mention a source you used? I'm interested in the subject.
The Persians a lot of important key figures that helped shape, and develop Sunni Islam as we know it today. Imam Muslim was a Persian who was born in Nishapur Iran, and died there, and is buried there today. Ibn Sina wrote a biography before he passed talking about his Persian roots, and identity, and went back to Iran before he died to buried there. Ghazali, Al Bukhari were also Persians, and actually Bukhari means "heater" in Persian, and his family name "Bardizbah" is old Persian name. Bukhari's family converted from Zoroastrianism to Islam, and there are many more prominent scholars that were Persian. When the Persians became Shia, the top scholars of Shi'ism were Persians as well.
In iran before safavid empire many shia Muslims lived in shia cities like qom, kashan, north of iran,sabsevar,rey,...
Safavid with help of these shia people successfully converted other persian people to shia islam.
Its a fact that many historian ignored it.
Thank you for the information, jazakum Allah 🤲
shiite itself comes from Arabia not Persia
@@middleeastrenwarriormen1017 yes. Shia and islam came from arabia. But most olama(scholars )of shia and sunni islam came from persian peoples
@@middleeastrenwarriormen1017 no the Shi'a sect formed in Iraq . Although the region of Iraq had a significant Arab presence prior to the Islamic conquests it isn't a part of Arabia according to most .
Yes the fact is they had minority ruled states empires too but were NOT a major in any of their states in Iran till the safavid calamity.
When Our beloved Prophet was alive, there was no sunni and Shia. This is man made for political reasons
Allahumabarik, exactly, Rasullallah (SAW) created the Sunnah but wasn’t Sunni, and Ali followed the Sunnah, and wasn’t Shia, they were both Muslims, submitted to the one Allah
The Sunnah Itself is Manmade , Mo was Man Himself , And God knows only if he ever existed , because in Those time Religion was the way to Gather people and Holy Places was the Big Business….Quran is Written 100 yrs after death of Mohamed ,So to claim He was Enlighmtened and Passed The knowledge but Wrote it after 100 Years sounds fishy…Think about it , Don’t beleieve blindly ,You have a Brain use it,,,,,❤❤
Yet these strange Shia consider themselves followers of Ahl al Bayt.
From Ali and Fatima to Al Hasan and Al Hussain, these were all MUSLIMS completely separate from the strange and scary rituals of the Shia today
@@PLayAshEFF72 What would they think of the raves at Karbala
@@DonkeyEMakesYouWiserNowIslam is the religion of brought by Muhammad rasulallah (peace be with him)
Twelver Shi’ism is the religion brought by the people of Kufa from their guilt of betraying Hussain at Karbala. Almost immediately the Kufan’s started beating themselves and the Shia continue to this day.
Yeah, they’re raving over Hussain’s martyrdom - yet Hussain lived for 21 years after the martyrdom of Ali - did he ever Rave or beat himself over his father’s martyrdom? Never. Make it make sense.
So who and what are these clowns even following, because it’s not Ahl al Bayt.
If Iran was Sunni Muslim the reality of Muslim world will change completely Persians Sunni Muslim has contributed so much to islam even so they are now shia I love iran
I'm Persian Sunni muslim
@@seyedmohammed3575 Love Iranian Muslim's from Pakistan. Big fan of Persian Islamic culture and architecture.
@@seyedmohammed3575you're a seyyed which means you're descendant of an Arab not Persian.
Safavids were definitely one of the most interesting Iranian dynasties! It would be interesting to see a video about Abbas the Great as he changed Safavid Iran alot!
Safavid Empire who controls iran ❗
@@ml-ls9lh they didn't control it. it was their homeland.
@@ml-ls9lh safavid was never turk it was iranian dynasty of kurdish origin
Shia means followers, We are followers of Ali (AS) and ahlul bayt (prophet's family).
Shia started from famous history of Ghadeer also recored in sunni books where Prophet (SAWW) says who call me Moula, Ali is his moula.
When prophet (SAWW) died, abu bakr, + umer + other powerful people in saqifa made themselves caliph while Ali was unaware and was busy in greaving of Prophet's death. When sahabas (RA) saw it, they knew about GHADEER and so did not gave bayah to abu bakr. Even Ali didnot gave baya to abu bakr UNTIL ISLAM WAS IN DANGER.
Not to forget abu bakr killing of sahabas in the crime that they denied paying their zakath even it was not zakath time.
Then abu bakr and umer came to Ali's house, and hurted daughter of Prophet, Bibi Fatima (SA) who died along with Her child due to that incident.
Another SUNNI HADITH: Where it even says that daughter of Prophet (SAWW) stopped even seeing abu bakr and umer until She died.
DONT YOU GUYS THINK, Why grave of Prophet's daughter is STILL UNKNOW until day of today ??
Among other things.
@@parsarustami774 😂😂 SAVEFİD GREAT AZERBAİJAN EMPİRE
Twelfth imam arrived in 1844 in Persia. Recently a Yemeni figured this out by himself and was imprisoned for years. I pray others figure it out too. ❤
Before this iranian empire many Iranian empires were shia like Iranian buyid dynasty that conquer abbasid cqliphate Or Iranian qarmatians that conquer Arabia they were shia
Absolutely
Also Ilkhanate shah Olijiatu converted to shia Islam
Also Daylamites
@@2000rira buyid dynasty was iranic daylamit
@@brightburnedits4278 Buyids were never able to conquer the Abbasid Caliphate. During the Siege of Baghdad Seljuks launched an invasion onto persia putting an end to the Buyid Dynasty and also saving the Abbasids
@@brightburnedits4278 "Dabuyid" was Zoroastrian in Tabaristan and were related with Sassanids, they had blood of Sasan.
I would argue that Iran becoming Shia has done a lot in preserving a sense of original cultural identity distinguishing the Shia Persians from the Sunni Arabs.
A consequence of the Islamic conquest back in the 7th century I believe was the assimilation and forcing of arab culture language and tribal structures on many non Arab groups in the Middle East such as the Coptic Egyptians Assyrians and the Berbers.
The Ottomans were the other reason for that. They were the main and most hated enemy by the Persians, which resulted in them losing and then gaining back Tabriz multiple times. The Ottomans were sunni, so they became Shia.
The Safavids main reason wasn't religious or cultural. It was political and ideological! They were enemies with the Ottomans. It's also important to mention that although the Safavids espoused Persian culture, they weren't ethnic Persians. They came from the Azerbaijani regions of Iran...Even in today's Iran, the main Clerics (including the supreme leader) and top politicians come from the Azeri regions. The current leaders of today's Iran are neo-Safavids! They are ideologically and religiously the same! Everything Iran is doing in the middle east is a continuation of the Safavid project that started 500 years ago.
Berbers are not Middle Eastern, they had their own distinct North African culture and tribal identity centuries before they were conquered by the Muslim Arabs
A common Zionist distortion of history. Iran has always been multi cultural and multi ethnic with different groups living in tribes that occasionally side with a shah. The shah and the tribal leaders typically had a close relationship and it goes back for centuries and one of the reasons why many of them defected was due to a caste system in place by magi priests.
Yes, culture makes religion impure. That's why in Islam religion is NUMBER ONE above culture and nationalism. At the end, no one asks your culture when you died
It was educating even for me as an Iranian!
Same me, Filip sent me????Excellent material, Gracias!!!
Thanks Amin!
Amazing job 👏 love it.
While Kasravi argues that the Safavids were indigenous inhabitants of Iran (i.e., Indo-European rather than Turkic), various early editions of Safvat al-Safa call Sheykh Safi al-Din 'Pir-i Turk', or 'Master/Guide of the Turks'. Later scholars, on the other hand, postulate various other possibilities for the family's ethnic and linguistic background, including Arab and Kurdish.
Safavid chronicles begin their narrations of the origins of the Safavids with Safi, who was burning with the love of God' even at a young age and was known for his inquisitive nature. 26 He was not only wise and fluent in six languages (Turkish, Arabic, Persian, Mongolian, Kurdish and Gilani), but also showed signs of 'blessed ness' as the ancestor of a dynasty that would rule the entire time and place.
Matthee, R. (Ed.). (2021). The Safavid World (1st ed.). Routledge. pp.18
@ICE Mate, stop spreading propaganda
Ardabili would beg to differ.
You failed to mention that North and Northwest Iran were already of the Shia faith. Tabriz itself is the oldest city to convert to Twelver Shi'ism. Even the Qara Qoyunlu Turkic dynasty which was based in Tabriz was twelver Ja'fari shia. Tabriz and northwest Iran were Shia since the time of Buyids.
Iran, Azerbaijan, southern iraq (except najaf, Karbala) all were sunni region before safavids
@@jihadi-against-oppression Nope, you can look into the history of QaraQoyunlus kind sir. They were a Shia majority dynasty based in Tabriz. The major Sunni populations were in central and southern Iran. Most of Iraq was Sunni at the time but North, North west Iran and Caucasus (Azerbaijan) were majority Shias.
@@jihadi-against-oppression Safavid based iranians
@@aliazarmehralparslan6067 what’s your opinion on second Rashidun Caliph “Umar”
Shi'a was only confined to the royal family back then
Cuse we iranian love imam Ali(ع) .
Mostly high sunni clerks are Persian Imam Abu Hanifa bukhari Imam Muslim
Great work 👍🏼 Thank you 💐
My family probably descends from one of those Shia scholars who moved into Iran after the conversion.
From what i understand 14 generations ago my ancestor moved into a tiny mountain pass town near Shiraz, in Fars.
It probably helped that there was at least some intermarriage with iranian people. From a dna test I had it turns out i have some markers from Iran, but a lot from the Arab world too.
Of course, my dad left the country during the revolution, and settled in India, and got married to my mum, later having kids and all. Both respected each other, so although not allowed by either of their faiths, they had a secular marriage. Neither converted. Also, i was sent to catholic school, because neutral territory.
Ive never been to Iran, and the plan is to visit next year around Nowruz. It would be nice to see the resting place of many of my ancestors and eat the food that ive heard stories about for decades, amkngst other things.
I have never really considered myself as belonging to any particular faith as i was blasted with 5 different ones in my childhood. Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Christianity and slight smattering of Zoroastrian all played their hand.
As far as the split goes, everyone knows that the umah is not faring that well under the current Hindu- fundamentalist government in India. I for one would hardly be surprised if i was being lynched because there hage been quite a few already.
Sadly, the hatred persists, be it indian vs indian, hindu vs muslim, and shia vs sunni.
Im pretty sure that anyone whose plan was to lynch you would not make any distinction about which sect you come from over here. A circumcised male is considered the enemy, regardless of whether they are a child or an old man. Under such circumstances, one would imagine that this hatred would reduce.
Even for the sake of survival, that is not yet happened.
If even the threat of genocide wont make people band together, i don't know what will.
Ill end on a happy note though, a Sunni muslim friend of mine once came over to visit and to seek advice from my late father.
"Uncle", he said, "I need some advice."
"Yes?"
"Uncle i have fallen in love with a Shia girl. What should i do?"
"Matam" (Mourning)
My dad replied.
Hey, if life doesn't make you laugh youre clearly not getting the joke. And if a Karbalayi Sayid can laugh at the sectarian divide, maybe we could all do with a chuckle or two.
you are right, the time has changed yet the circumstances remain the same, just as you are afraid of being lynched, many Hindus are afraid of you lot. we worry about the things that might trigger you to take up swords and behead us, we worry about the fact that this religion have gangs in certain states where they try to convert the girl from her religion with false pretext of marriage. the list will go on my friend and i could write paragraphs about why the Ummah is not faring well in India.
Maybe some scets are just not supposed to mingle, because all that brings is bloodshed and well well, History of the Ummah has been so very red indeed.
Great video ! I have always wondered when Iran took that drastic turn into Twelver Shiism. Any books you can recommend on the matter ?
Converting Persia from Rula Abisaab
Anything written by Dr. Rosemary Stanfield-Johnson. Iranian/Islamic history is her specialty.
" the drastic turn" was caused by Shah Ismail, who forcefully converted large parts of former sunni persia into shia.
@@turan_kaya exactly, forced conversion to shiasm in iran same as the forced conversion to Catholicism in Spain/Portugal both are war crimes.
Even the Mongols tried to convert the Iranians to Buddhism, but eventually became Shiite Muslims themselves
May Allah curse those who curse the Rashidun Khalifas!
right like Muawiya who cursed Imam Ali
May allah curse umar uthman and abu bakr
@@lemortedbrian6070 but Ali Radiallahuanhu never cursed the Khulafa infact he love them and participate in every affairs
How about fck allah?
Aameen
“Prior to the Safavids, Persia was not known for its Shia scholars” (8:16)
Hmmm really? Some major Shia scholars who had fundamental roles and happen to be Persian: Shaykh Tabarsi, Shaykh Tusi, Ibn Babawayh, Muhammad ibn Ya'qub al-Kulayni etc
Wow in 700 years Islam in Persia and you could barely name 7 names
@@turan_kaya my friend….🙄please talk about things that you have the knowledge to not embarrass yourself. Clearly you have no idea who these people are…and nor about the Shia and “Islam in Persia”
You're taking it way out of context, there was obviously shia scholars in Iran however Persia was known as a place of deep rooted sunni scholarship hence why many of the greatest sunni scholars were actually of Persian descent
@@adamheydari I totally agree that many Sunni scholars were from Persia, but this doesn’t imply that it wasn’t also known for its Shia scholars! Persia was the place for all kinds of Islamic scholarship, from the most famous Muslim mathematicians, philosophers, and even Arabic grammarians like Sibawayh, you can find Persian scholars!
@@mohsen6274 before the safavid conquest and the forced conversation of the population, Persia was in fact NOT known for shia scholars. It was a deeply sunni place.
Informative video. These topics needs to be taught more often. Like the background music 🎶
Long live the Alhulbyt. Prophet Muhammad pbuh said I will leave you with two things and that’s the Quran & the Alhulbyt.
Shia Sunni Abadi all are brothers.
اني تارك فيكم خليفتين كتاب الله و عترتي اهل بيتي
💓💓🙏
@@AliAli-kg7od
Agreed bro but.
What Ahl e Bait said Shia ,Sunni all have different versions of that .
That's why focusing more on Quran is much better .
@@whiteholeeducationcenter I respect u💓💓🙏 opinion,,, that was why I posted the Hadith firstly
The first Shi'a was Hazrat Salman Farsi R A, and many Persians were shia in kufa and persia at the Time of Hazrat Ali A S.
but majority was non Shia.
When Imam Ali Reza A S went to Khorasan , the Persians accepted the true faith of Islam (leaving the political Nawasibi Deen) after
learning , understanding the TRU DEEN through his speaches and debates.
The third wave of Shiaism was in IRAN when Mangol king Khuda Banda appointed The great Scholer Sheikh Tusi R A as the chief Qazi, after he crushed the anti SHIA Ulema in debates. In his time more then half of Iran was Shia.
Rest were converted by Debates during SAFAVI PERIOD and still till today it is an ongoing process.
Those who call out to ali (ra) for help instead of Allah, are doing clear shirk.
@@user-yp7ke4et7o Those who do not call Ali A S for help are enemy of Islam and are muafiq, and there mothers are responsible for there enimity.
Exactly, Ali never endorsed. Ali would be disgusted at the fact people call upon him for help.
Shirk shirk shirk Al akbar
I think it very much speaks to the overall cultural influence of Persia and how different places received it, i.e. South Asians receiving it through the adoption of (Sunni) Islam under the Persian empire whilst in Lebanon, it mainly comes from the close relationship with Iran that started out with that movement of scholars from Jabal Amel (which is majority Shi'a) so as a result, you see that culturally, South Asian Muslims regardless of sect (but are by a vast majority Sunni) resemble Shi'as in Lebanon more than the Sunnis in Lebanon (and I guess this is true for other parts of the fertile crescent but idk for sure)
There is no Persian cultural influence to Lebanon. You have no idea what you’re talking about
Brother, Persian Influence only came in Lebanon in the 80s or by some in the end of 70s during the Lebanese civil war and the the Israeli occupation of Lebanon. I don't think that there is any authentic sources that claims any Persian Influence in Lebanon. But it was there in that region way before Islam during the Archemanid, Sassanid Empires, etc. When the whole of Iran, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Iraq, Syria,Jordan, Lebanon, Palestine and parts of Saudi Arabia were under the rule of early Persian empires.
Lmfaoooooooooo WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT LMFAO LOL 🤣 bro delete this shit because you are very very off with your claim.
@@shortclips4267 he’s an idiot don’t listen to him the first shias we’re literally from south of Lebanon I can’t remember which Imamع but a couple of his companions were literally exiled in sham in Lebanon specifically lol
@J C Islam is a hypocritical religion which is based on lies. Both both Sunni and Shia demonic follow demonic Islam.
As a Turkish sunni I have such a hard time understanding this.
Me too same problem here brother
"Mulla Salih Qazvini, writing about Isfahan toward the end of Safavid rule, reveals through an anecdote a sense of resentment against non-Muslims in power. He relates that a crazy man (majnun) from Isfahan complained to a general (emir) that in this town only the religiously impure (najis) had authority, rather than human beings. The general responded: ‘Indeed, the impure are the ones riding horses and donkeys, and me I am walking on foot’.The reference here to the impure is to non-Muslims, most probably Armenians and Georgians, who prevailed publicly in Isfahan, distinguishing themselves through their status that allowed them access to horses". Page - 47, The Slaves of the Shah.
Thank you so much for this
Excellent clear coverage of history, thank you. Can you please do a video about the history of the Armenians and the Persians, we are very close to each other, and once, we had the same faith, Zoroastrianism until we accepted Christianity in 302 AD, the Persians remained Zoroastrians until the Arab conquest of Persia, carried out by the Rashidun Caliphate from 633 to 654 AD.
That's because Armenia was ruled by a Parthian Ascarid nobility from Persia. Armenia became first kingdom to embrace Christianity under Tridates IV, I guess. Armenians and Georgians were essential ethnic components of Safavid empire, when the Safavid kings tried to remove center of power from Turkic Qizalbash, who were often intriguing against each other.
Even before zoroastrianism you guys were mitraist another iranian religion
The Historical Dictionary of Iran, 2nd Edition, by Dr. John H. Lorentz.
Thank you for the lesson. Peace.🌷
At 03:18 - - - - > Just to point out Iman Hassan is not the father of Imam Hussain therefore succession is not from father to son (not even to the eldest child in all circumstances) but rather to one specific male from the linage.
Imam Hassan is the older brother of Imam Hussein both sons of Ali the cousin and son in law of Mohamed (Saw). Imam Hassan and Iman Hussein are the grand sons of Mohamed (Saw). Imam Hussein was killed in the battle of Karbala Iraq. Imam Hassan died in Medina Saudi Arabia. In old Arabic times succession was from father to eldest son. If the eldest son dies the succession goes to the second eldest son.
Iranian Persians stand out in my mind as a people whose culture is imprisoned by their leaders. They are the descendants of people whose technological superiority allowed them to rule a vast empire, whose art and culture was high above its contemporaries. The art coming out of Iran, now, makes it's way through heavy censorship and with little or no financial support from state sources, and it is stunning how good it is. Many of us in the US don't bother to know the distinction between the Persians and Arabs, between Shia and Sunni. Even then, what we see of Persian Shia culture stands out above their neighbors in the Middle East.
We persian were once america of our time from cyrus the great to parthians and to sasanian zoroastrian empires but then islam comes at the doorstep of persia(iran) and completely changes the history for us. 14 centuries of arab savage islamic culture ruined great persia to the ground but we the new generations of iran are learning abour our background and we will do our best to get our true zoroastrian persian identity back.
for the info this video does now show how much shah ismail the creator of shia in iran tortured and killed many people and forced shia on everyone just like ummayad and abasid arab dynasties that forced sunni islam on iranians by sword and blood 14 centuries ago.
The West also abandoned their own religions and adopted Christianity.
@@finix7419Kudos to you my brother 👍 Happy to see my Persian compatriots are rising once more.
@@bletwort2920Were they forced to change their religion? Or aren't they still allowed to practice whatever they want? Because Islam said that Muslims are allowed to kill and rape anyone who doesn't accept Islam or preaches native religion. And it's still going on. Persians today are persecuted and harrased even tortured and killed for what they wear or many simple things like that, especially women because women are nothing in Islam but a breeding ground for giving birth to more Muslim soldiers. You know, there is a little difference between abandoning a religion, and humiliating and genociding a nation by the hands of other nation under the cover of religion (Islam). Which by the way is a religion that is represented by a prophet that married 7 years old child and engaged in more than 45 wars!
Thank you 👍🙏 Unfortunately we are stuck in middle east which is poisoned by the disease of Islam. And Islamic caliphates have killed millions of us throughout this 14 centuries. Islam preaches child- marriage, murder and torture and rape of non-believers and native nations. That's how they spreaded their religion. And my poor people were two times persecuted and got mass-killed and mass-raped throughout history, once by the hands of Sunni Muslmis when Omar conquered Persia in battlefield, second time by the hands of Shia Muslims and Seyyed Mullahs from within! And all of those Islamic nonsense are a cover for Arab colonialism and abusing and humilating other nations especially Persians.
Excellent summary
We Iranians are no longer Muslims and are disillusioned with the religion; we are neither Shia nor Sunni; we are Zoroastrians. However, we respect Arabs and Muslims who show us respect.
I am persian muslim historically I was zartosh but it doesn't mean I practice that religion now, because that's old religion when we were misguided after islam preached to us by salman farsi we accepted and became muslim thanks to God
Stop spreading lies mossad, your just cursed because of murdering the grandson of the Holy prophet
Your not zero Astrian you were misguided and living g in the dark ages who worshipped stones and planets. You can't hate education and guidance. If you don't like civilisatio and humanity that was bought and taught to you by Islam then feel free to worship the sun. No one care, but don't speak for everyone who don't represent your thoughts. You can't even respect women. If you want to be civilised or zero Astrian learn to respect women
"We" Speak for yourself ❤
Well you better show our religion respect if you want respect
The safavids were Persian and Kurdish mix and qizilbash was a mixture of many different ethnic groups not just turks.
Love seeing the same images I use in my videos. Brings back memories.
Hey man, shoot me an email!
Thank you so much, interesting.
Thanks!
Well done lads! Added fun fact, the Institution for Learning, had so much knowledge contained in it, due to scholars coming from near and far, to exchange, shares ideas, what they had seen in the world, literature, economics, political, medical, agriculture, science, basic cultural differences- fabrics, cooking utensils...to this day, I still refer to Iran as Persia, out of old habits, certainly not being disrespectful...I'm NY 1962 Toms very British/Brazilian future wife MD, Veteran, Middle East & Cont. of Africa
The earliest report on cannibalism in this case comes from the Tarikh-i Shah Isma`il va Shah Tahmasb-I Safavi ( sometimes know also as Zayl-I habib al-siyar) of Khwandamir`s son Amir Mahmud, completed around 1550. Mahmud writes that after the rout, Shah Isma`il was presented with enemy who had been captured alive and he asked them about Shibani Khan`s fate. They said that he had not escaped and a search of the battlefield would likely turn up his body. In Mahmud`s words:
When Ismail`s bloody-minded warriors of faith (ghaziyan) heard this from two commanders, they began an intensive search. After much rummaging, they found the body, bearing no wound or cuts, under a pile of slain Uzbeks. They immediately severed the head and brought it to the victorious king, but when he saw this he demanded the whole malice-filled body. Sword-girding countries immediately presented the body, and the brave hero first struck its belly three times with his sword and then said: whoever among our sincere soldiers (qurchiyan-I kasir al-ikhlas) and special servants (mulaziman-I kasir al-ikhtisas) lovesout imperial head (sar-navvab-I humayun-I ma) should partake of the flesh of this enemy. Truthful people present at the event have reported that such a crowd then rushed in upon the body of that impure being that a number of people were injured. Those were far from the body purchased morsel of flesh from those who were near and consumed them. The way they ate this raw, impure (haram) meat, caked with dirt and blood, surpassed the relish with which starving hemp addicts must wolf down the roasted meat of a fattened lamb in moments of being beset by hunger and the cravings of their drug habit.
Holy shiite this sent me down a rabbit hole. Dunno about Ismail himself partaking in the feast, but I did read about the "Chegins" and how they attack and eat anyone like a dog should the Shah point them to it.
@@hisholiness4537 It was not Shah Ismail but Shah Abbas I. The most detailed report on these cannibals comes from Junabadi`s Rawzat al-safaviyya (completed in 1626:
Another squad among the types of people (used to instill fear) was under the command of the chief herald Malik Beg Isfahani and was known as chigiyyin (from Turkish cig, war or uncooked), or those who ear raw meat. These people were also a tool for torturing and making (the king`s) fury. They would take each person among a group of condemned people one by one and would proceed to bite off and swallow their noses and ears. This was followed by using teeth to cut off the victims` other organs, which were also eaten, until all the condemned were gradually stripped of their lives. This squad also wore a distinctive dress, marked by bulky, tall hats with no turbans that sat a small measure down on their heads and were adorned on the sided with brunches of cranes and owls` feathers. Most members of the two groups appointed to torture the condemned were tall, massive men with terrible faces.
@@hisholiness4537 The first source to mention cannibalism is the Lubb al-tavarikh, whose author, Sayyid Yahya Qazvini (d. 1555), states that he was accompanying
the Safavid army during the expedition. According to Qazvini, Chulavi prepared to defend himself from the assault by gathering his garrisons into reliable forts, but Isma`il was able to eliminate the front guard of the defenses at the forts of Gulkhandan and Firuzkuh quite easily. Chulavi’s domains were, at this time, host to remnants of the Aqquyunlu Turkic federation, the rulers of Iran prior to the rise of the Safavids, who were aiding him in the hope of reversing their earlier defeat at Ismaºil’s hands. An Aqquyunlu commander named Murad Beg Jahanshahlu and Chulavi decided to ensconce themselves in the fort of Usta, resorting to self-preservation in the face of the advancing army. Safavid forces were unable to capture this fort until a month later, when a scheme was devised to divert the river that passed through the fort and was its water supply. The garrison capitulated in the face of thirst and, at this point, Qazvini writes simply that the victors “cooked Murad Beg on fire and the revengeful soldiers devoured his flesh.”
Allahu Akbar. May they all rot in hell.
@@salmanahmadabbasi6791Why are you cursing them? Are you a Sunni Muslim?
The Turkish and bakui people are hard trolling in the comments section. Cringe af
Bakui people xDddd
Majusi cope
@@aykhanimran1362 average turk🤘🐴😂
@@brightburnedits4278 come back when you have your own state 🤣🤣🤣
@@aykhanimran1362 what you can do except stealing others history??hhaha i bet that half of your dna is greek or iranic you are not even 10%turk lol
@@brightburnedits4278 why would we steal history when it's already rich?
Name a fully independent ethnically Persian state after Sassanids I dare you
Persian, iraqi and Spanish muslims were the most significant Contributers in ISLAMIC GOLDEN AGE.❤
and the most oppressed too, spanish ones were the most lucky ones
many many many researches about shia islam have gone the wrong direction because they recognize Safavid dynasty as the main reason for that matter, but they always fail to see two other very huge reasons:
first: cruelty of sunny arab kalifs and kings vs kindness of Muhammad pbuh Ali pbuh and his childeren toward Iranians , and second: presence of Ali ibn Musa pbuh the eighth imam in their country Iran
Correct brother also don't forget Iraqi scholar Alamma Al Hilli RA debated with Sunni Iranians scholar which he spread shia.
The Persians to this day can't stomach the fact their mighty sophisticated empire was conquered by camel and goat herders.
Keep living in your world of ignorant bliss.
Mashahallah. Great.
Good message and good job.
Very nice video
But still i did not understood why safavid changed from Sufism to shiaism ?
That's a slightly different topic, difficult to pinpoint through scholarship tbh but perhaps it'll be the subject of a future video
@@HikmaHistory i will be oblidged to see that vidoe of yours
Shah Ismail was a baby when his father got killed. His mother was a Greek Princess Martha. Greeks hated Ottomans who also killed her husband. She moves with baby Ismail to Shiraz Iran. There Ismail was taught and raised by this one Shia scholar and at later years of Ismail he was moved by this scholar to Northern part of Iran to acquire farther training in Shia school of thought and that’s when everything in Shah Ismail began to turn Iran to Shia. In his writings and poems he declared himself as 12th Immam that Shias were waiting for him for centuries.
@@Dera9791 so if he is 12 imam, we should have alredy haf the end of the world , so why it did mot happen..maybe because he was not the 12th imam?
@@dacostaayimolou8273 there’s no such a thing as the end of the world. It’s an end of an era and beginning of the new era. Sort of like for example the end of high school is a beginning to go to university the end of university is a beginning to a new job etc.
They may have been Iranians or Turks, or even of Kurdish or Arabic origin, but their appeal was religious rather than ethnic or tribal. Devotion to the Safavid order was widespread among the Türkmen tribes of Azarbayjan and Anatolia. Safavid followers wore a distinctive red turban and were known as Qizilbash, or “red-heads.” The Safavid order was both Sufi and Shiite in orientation, and it is thanks to the Safavids that Iran is a Shiite country today.
Religious overtones aside,in most other respects theirs was a typical turkish dynasty.
As late as the 1660s and 1670s, a Frenchman at the Safavid court could still write: “Turkish is the language of the armies and of the court; one speaks nothing but Turkish there, as much among the women as among the men, throughout in the seraglios of the great; this comes about because the court is originally of the country of this language, descended from the Türkmens, of whom Turkish is their native tongue.
Jeroen Duindam (2016). Dynasties: A Global History of Power, 1300-1800. Cambridge University Press. p. 136. ISBN 978-1-107-06068-5.
They were iranians.
And a typical turkish dynasty you call..all of those were persianised..even the semi turkish ghaznavids and saljuks. Safavids? Iranian to their bone.
Safavids also had many tendencies to the pre-Islamic past of Iran. And showing great interest in Shahnameh. And they put a name from ancient Iran that was in Shahnameh on their children's day.
so why all these turkish turkmen devoted thier sultanate to establish and flourish persian cutlure and language?? and please name one turkish person on sience or a poem in that era.
Shia means followers, We are followers of Ali (AS) and ahlul bayt (prophet's family).
Shia started from famous history of Ghadeer also recored in sunni books where Prophet (SAWW) says who call me Moula, Ali is his moula.
When prophet (SAWW) died, abu bakr, + umer + other powerful people in saqifa made themselves caliph while Ali was unaware and was busy in greaving of Prophet's death. When sahabas (RA) saw it, they knew about GHADEER and so did not gave bayah to abu bakr. Even Ali didnot gave baya to abu bakr UNTIL ISLAM WAS IN DANGER.
Not to forget abu bakr killing of sahabas in the crime that they denied paying their zakath even it was not zakath time.
Then abu bakr and umer came to Ali's house, and hurted daughter of Prophet, Bibi Fatima (SA) who died along with Her child due to that incident.
Another SUNNI HADITH: Where it even says that daughter of Prophet (SAWW) stopped even seeing abu bakr and umer until She died.
DONT YOU GUYS THINK, Why grave of Prophet's daughter is STILL UNKNOW until day of today ??
Among other things.
Great piece! Now I know why Shias and sufis are so close to eachother in many countries like pakistan, Iraq, Algeria, Lebanon.
TLDR: Forced conversion to save them from Ottoman conquest + Insulated nation surrounded by mountains.
Although they were defeated by the ottomans and their capital taken
@@Omer1996E.C including ismail's wife🤣
no it just divided the Muslim world again and the safavids were fighting only Muslims their allies were europeans
@@starcapture3040 indeed
Oh so killing sunnis to save them from getting killed?Is this your logic?Your name suggests you are hindu.Never make comments with half knowledge on Islamic history ever again.Now Iranians dont follow Islam because they were forced to be extreme Shias unfortunately.
As a atheist l don’t believe in any God but l find religion…particularly a religion where millions are prepared to die for it fascinating..excellent video by the way !.
lamo its something after death most people got fucked in their life there is no peace in this world
Explain how the universe started without the existence of God. Go ahead
Well at least we know you don’t do crossfit, aren’t a vegan, and aren’t from Minnesota or you would have insisted on telling us that stuff, too.
@@IbnKiran Ur brain can’t comprehend the science behind it. U r unevovled monkey. Go and enjoy the fairy tales. 😂😂😂
Great informative video! The point of Ulema leaving the region is very important, because in Egypt under Ubaidids (So-called Fatimids) ulema took great role in defence of Sunni Islam.
According to historians,[18][19] including Vladimir Minorsky[20] and Roger Savory, the Safavids were of Turkicized Iranian origin:[21]
From the evidence available at the present time, it is certain that the Safavid family was of indigenous Iranian stock, and not of Turkish ancestry as it is sometimes claimed. It is probable that the family originated in Persian Kurdistan, and later moved to Azerbaijan, where they adopted the Azari form of Turkish spoken there, and eventually settled in the small town of Ardabil sometimes during the eleventh century.
1. Shah Abbas' famous palace historian Iskender Bey Muneshi (1560-1634) notes that Sheikh Safi is called a Turkish youth in his work. In this work, it is stated that during the trip to Shiraz, Persian sheikhs called Sheikh Safi as a Turkish youth.
Emir Abdullah addresses Sheikh Sâfî as follows:
-O Turkish youth! Thanks to your diligence, diligence and high deeds, your grace has reached our eyes until now.
According to the same work, Persian sheikhs are not the only people who call Sheikh Sâfî a Turkish youth. Sheikh Zahid Geylani also mentions Sheikh Safi as a Turkish youth.
1666-1694 `` There is a work called / Silsiletü'n-Neseb-i Safevîyye / written on the lineage of the Safavids. Its author is Hüseyin Zahidî, son of Pizade Şeyh Abdal, descendant of Sheikh Zahid, who is the leader of Sheikh Safi. In both parts of this valuable work, Şeyh Sâfî was known as the Turkish piri.
It is understood from the sources that the native language of Sheikh Sâfî in the black magazine, which is considered one of the main books of the Safeviyye order, is Turkish.
It is clearly stated in the Kara Mecmua, which is considered as one of the main books of the Safeviyye order, that the native language of Sheikh Sâfî is Turkish and that his followers speak in this language.
The famous safvetü's-Safa, on the other hand, introduces himself as the Turkish son of Sheikh Sâfî, Turk.
“Pire Ahmed perniki Germrûdi told from Mevlana İsma'il (rh.a); he said: I was in the presence of Mawlana Izzeddin Merağı (rh.a.) and the sheikh (pbuh). He was busy with nice words. That twitter said, 'O community of caliphs! Pray to Hace Sadrettin that the throne of Sheikh Zahid and me, Turkoglu Turk, has won the throne for himself with his own power. ''
The same event is described in the Turkish translation of Safvetü's-Sâfâ in Sheikh Sâfî tezkiresin:
“Pire Ahmed of Bernik narrated; Who should be from Mawlana Ismail? He said: Marağalu Mevlana Izzeddin was the servant of Hazret-i Sheikh (k.s.) and His Holiness Sheikh (k.s.) was busy in the language-pezir word. In the middle of the word he said: Caliphs! Please pray to Hace Sadrettin who was the son of a Turk who took the throne of Sheikh Zahid and my menu place. ''
There is an anonymous safevi history book written in Persian in 1675-76 AD: / Târih-i Alemara-yı Shah İsma'il /
In this work, Eminüddin Cebrail, the father of Sheikh Safi, the ancestor of Shah Ismail and the founder of the Safavid order, is referred to as the Turkish dervish.
Some of the Safavid sources recorded Turkish youth for the ancestor of Shah Ismai, Sheikh Safi.
In his work titled Füthât-ı Şahî, heratlı İbrahim Emini, who is the historian of the Palace of Shah İsmail, is referred to as a Turkish piri and Turkish youth from Sheikh Sâfî.
@@IAm-xt2kp Shah abbas insulted turks safavid was iranian deal whit it
scholars that Safavids originated in Iranian Kurdistan and moved to Iranian Azerbaijan, settling in Ardabil in the 11th centuryZ. V. Togan, "Sur l’Origine des Safavides," in Melanges Louis Massignon, Damascus, 1957, III, pp. 345-57] . Accordingly, these scholars have considered the Safavids to be of Kurdish descent based on the origins of Sheykh Safi al-Din and that the Safavids were originally a Iranic speaking clan [Heinz Halm, Shi'ism, translated by Janet Watson. New Material translated by Marian Hill, 2nd edition, Columbia University Press, pp 75] [Ira Marvin Lapidus. "A History of Islamic Societies", Cambridge UniversityPress, 2002, p. 233] Tapper, Richard, FRONTIER NOMADS OF IRAN.
@@brightburnedits4278 Tarihi-Alem-ârâ-yi-Abbasi
Islam is a hypocritical religion which is based on lies. Both both Sunni and Shia demonic follow demonic Islam.
@@IAm-xt2kp lol shah abbas killed qizilbash generals. Your whole post is propaganda
Iranians are steadfast and intelligent. They are not corrupt like Sauds. Glad Iran is Shia, and they follow Hassan and Hussain (ra)
Muslims follow the Prophet (PBUH). Your comment right here shows how deviant your beleif is.
Muslim supposed to follow the Quran and Sunnah?
From then we didn't saw any scientific from Shai Iran
very interesting overview, combined with eye catching images
SALAM THANKS SO MUCH MOST PEOPLES DONT NO ABOUT THIS
BEAUTIFUL INFORMATION IF YOU CAN CAN YOU MAKE PART 2?
THANKS AGEIN...
Thanks & Jazaak Allah for giving this comprehensive overview of Shi'a in Iran.
Imam Ja'afar and Imam Raza did not explicitly propagate any separate sect of Shi'a under various Abbasid caliphs. Yet, Shi'a sect identity continued in various pockets of Abbasid realm, right through the Turkic resurgence under Zangis and Seljuqs.
Can you also do a ptogramme on that earlier evolution of Shi'a?
What does it matter Shia or Sunni by force before that Zoroastrians were converted by force too into Islam
Did your mum see that?
You can find a translation dating from 1831 by Frederik Rosen here of Al-Khawarizmi’s Algebra.
The author’s preface says things like: “Praise be to God for his bounty … He sent Mohammed … with the mission of a prophet … My confidence rests with God, in this as in every thing, and in Him I put my trust … May His blessings descent upon all the prophets and heavenly messengers!”
This doesn’t seem like the words of someone who was coerced into the religion. Nor was this type of writing expected at the time. Al-Khwarizmi was one of the scholars of the House of Wisdom, and it wasn’t even required that those who were at the House of Wisdom be Muslim. For example, Hunayn ibn Ishaq was an Arab Christian and a prominent translator and physician, and he certainly wasn’t forced to convert.
So the Safavids basically forced converted Persia and Persians to become Shia by sword? Wow if only Iranians nationalists knew this
we know and we are proud of it . there is no way to be a Sunni and Iranian at the same time. areas that resisted the Arab invasion converted to Shia islam from the start . Shia areas like north of Iran became the heartland of Persian culture. even ferdowsi was a Shia . Iran would have died without Shia
@@sina-alavi1962 Lmao say that to the Tajiks who are Sunni Persians in North Afghanistan. Thanks to the Pashtuns the Safavids couldn’t get that far 😂
You can’t take the fact that shiism came to Iran by force. You are commenting on an academic video specifically about this subject and you still deny and tell yourself lies to sugarcoat what happened. Iran was always sunni and will become sunni again no doubt.
You talk of ferdowsi, a poet who praised Umar (ra) in his shanahma, but I can speak of Ibn sina, Rumi, ghazali, Hafez, shirazi, Al Biruni, Al Razi, rudaki, Jami, I could go on about Irans great sunni legacy but no mr Alavi over here says otherwise 😭😭😂😂😂🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️💀💀💀💀💀😭
@@zccau2316 ok for a logical debate will be a logical answer . Shia history in Iran started at north . in gilan and Mazandaran. only two areas that survived the Arab invasion . they became Shia by choice not by blade and also the cities like qom and rey that retained autonomy by paying higher taxes became Shia from the start .
and about the poem that are claimed to be from ferdowsi . they are proven to be fake . and added later .
also ibn sina was a Shia . he is hated in older Sunni sources just read a little about how he was treated .
and just look at how al razi was called a Zindiq and treated so badly by Sunnis . claim of them being Sunni just appeared after they became popular in Europe.
and most importantly the most anti-Iranian Iranian u mentioned .imam Muhammad Ghazali.
let just look at his writings in kimia e saadat.
"Rather, Nowruz and Sadeh should not be mentioned and no one should name it, so a group of Salaf said that they should fast so that they do not eat those foods, and the night of Sadeh should not be lit so that they do not see fire at all. It was and should not be that the name of this day was branded in any way"
the original text is old and hard to translate if u want I will send the Persian text for you.
this is the great Sunni legacy u call . Sunni era in iran is not a sign of pride for us even this year's Nowruz was banned by many Sunni Tajik imams in Afghanistan . religious shias are highly patriotic in every country they live but religious Sunnis always end up rejecting their national identity like what ISIS did . I will wait for a answer if u have one.
@@sina-alavi1962 Shia Iran has not accomplished even a tenth of Sunni Iran in any field. Your entire modern culture is just larping and stealing Sunni Persian history .
@@hmmm3210 first of all study a little more. trash talking with likes of u is beneath me.
represent a solid argument and I will respond accordingly and not a single Muslim country can claim that Iran is a slacker nation . we are the only hope for successful Islamic world .who is even trying to fight the western influence except us ? just tell me what have Sunni nations done in last century except getting fatter every day and doing less work than the days before it.
what u have to scold us with ? what will u have without oil? all of u cant survived one week without American help .even if we accept your glorious Sunni history what about now? what you Sunnis have to take pride in the recent generations?
THANKS FOR THIS INFORMATIVE VIDEO
The first shia was Jew Abdullah ibn Saaba. The Shias prophet is a Jew.
❤❤❤❤ imam Ali ❤❤❤❤
Ali is Muslims mola as what prophet said in ghadir
Allah (SWT) is our mawlana as said in the last ayah of Surah Al-Baqarah.
@@JohnSmith-gv7qm
yes Allah is our mola
11:45 that word "Omar Koshan" literally means "Omar Killing" in Persian
Can you do a video explaining why kurds in Iran is Sunni!
the Kurdish are mostly SUNNI , I use to work in Iraq, Qurdish there are Sunni and looks very cordial and happy looking people, and almost looks like North Indian.
Because they are mountain people and the safavids were not able to forcefully convert them. Same for the afghans.
Half of iranian kurds are shia.
@@advisor8387
More like 10to 15% l would say
@@advisor8387
More like 10to 15% l would say
The City Hyderabad (Deccan) structure was drafted from Isfahan City Persia
A lot of Mughal stuff is "borrows" severely from Iran. The Mughals had the money, Iran had the experts. Spending was easy.
Unless I'm mistaken the Nizams were shia for a long time, and so they borrowed from Iranian culture.
Hyderabad (India) has one of the largest Iranian-Indian communities in modern India, and the food is also remarkable.
@@rustomkanishka Mughals were mixed race individuals Persian, Turkic, Indian (Rajput race). So they mixed these cultures too.
@@AntiFurryJihad as am I :)
@@rustomkanishkaso indian muslims never had there own original ideas always copied from others ?
Excellent work.
*THIS COMMENT SECTION* :
1-Sunnis who cope and say Iran should become Sunni again
2- Shias who cope and deny Shah Ismail ever did any persecutions
3-Iranians xoping about Safavids being Turkic
4-Turks coping about Safavids being called Kurdish in this video
*THE REALITY* : Most of Southern and central Iran used to be *Sunni* when Safavids came to power. Persecutions against minority religions *did* happen. The *Shia* faith existed in Iran long before but it was continuously persecuted by Umayyad and Abbasid caliphs. *Qara Qoyunlus* were the first major Shia state to rise to power in Iran since the *Buyids* and they were a Turkic speaking tribe who strengthened Shia faith in Northern and North Western Iran (Tabriz and Hamedan) until Safavids came to power and declared Shi'ism the *official* religion. The origin of Safavids is still debated but many believe his father Sheikh safi ad-din ardabili was a Sufi Kurd, so he was of Kurdish *ORIGIN* but doesn't mean he *Identified* as a Kurd. Ethnicity and Genetics are not the same and he was highly ispired by the QaraQoyunlus that he converted to the Shia faith and avenged them by destroying theif Rival "Aq Qoyunlu" after Qara Qoyunlus were defeated. He also spoke Azerbaijani Turkish, made mutiple poems in Azeri Turkish and called himself a *TURK* with no evidence of him ever speaking *Kurdish* .
Finally an intelligent and constructive comment lmao. Shame that those really interesting topics always attract the worst people
May Allah reward you my brother, you are so knowledgeable I liked your other comment I swear the part where the guyy side “iran never produced famous shia scholars prior to Safavids” I cringed so hard the owner of this channel isn’t really knowledgeable. Shaykh Al Tusi (Rh) Buyid era almost 500 years before Safavids Shaykh Saduq (RH) also buyid era and finally thiqat al Islam al shaykh al kulayni (RH) also near buyid era all big scholars before Safavids even existed
Finally, a correct comment with rightly throwing shades on the right place and the right time
Keep lying shia
I'm Muslim! I'm not Sunni or Shia. We as Muslims are not supposed to form sects.
Indeed, you're right
But then again, the differences between the Shi'a majorities and Sunni majorities are ultimately menial compared to differences between Catholicism-Orthodoxy-Protestants in Christianity, Rabbinical-Samaritan-reformed in Judaism, Theravada-Mahayana-Vajrayana in Buddhism, whatever the hell of the sects and offshoots of Hinduism has and other examples of non-Islamic Faiths
Sunnis and Shi'as can ultimately could potentially reconciliates better, could working in pragmatic politics better, while have more than often to prays in congregations alongside celebrates major Islamic Holidays together than any other denominations, schools and sects of other Religions
Interesting. TQ for sharing.
sooo much ignorance, havent even wikipediaed irans history! iranian people always resented the sunni overlords.irans history in full of shia rebellion against sunni tyrannical rulers.maziar, babak, Gharen, abumoslem,Ya'qub ibn al-Layth al-Saffar, hassan sabbah,ziarids,buyids,Khurshid of Tabaristan,Alid dynasties of northern Iran ,etc mostly shia rebellion.iranians mostly protected their identity through shia islam and persian language
This is literally modern propaganda to legitimise the current regime lol . The Iranian Sunnis were also persianate and didn't arabise anything. Fyi the Sunni revolt against the Shia oppression in the east of the empire is what created Afghanistan so your one dimensional bs doesn't hold up.
@@hmmm3210 yes i know,irans regime is cruel and the thing i wrote helps its propaganda but that doesnt mean its wrong,please Wikipedia the examples i made and you will be informed.
Iran used to be overwhelming sunni. Then the twelve cult came in and violently converted people.
@@nimarezaei8312
Any one can edit Wikipedia it's not that much of a legitimate source of knowledge
@@whiteholeeducationcenter you think as an iranian i dont know anything about irans history that i should Wikipedia these points,how many examle did i make? Are you assuming that all of them is wrong.did you search all the real sources and figur out that the wikipedia is wrong?what made me angry was the least the video maker and his team could do is wikipedia the history and they didn't
Prophet Mohammed(PBUH) in his lifetime had said many great things about Ali(S.A.) as per authentic Hadith, Ali(S.A.) was in forefront to win many important battles of Islam, a scholar & loyal member of Ahlulbait or the first family of Prophet Mohammed(PBUH) Ali(S.A.) was the chosen one & blessed by Almighty Allah as the successor of Prophet Mohammed(PUBH)
No matter what the history of Iran was, we have to admit that these Shias have done more for Palestinians than any other Muslim nation. No matter if its in Lebanon or Yemen. Despite having little technologically advanced weapons, their resistance against zionist have embarrassed Muslim countries from Turks all the way to Saudi Arabia.
Proud people I think... And smart.
Those that created the theology of the Sunni sect were 90% Persian imams (Imam Bukhari, Imam Muslim, Imam Tirmidhi, Imam Abu Hanifa, Imam Hanbali, Imam Sajistani, Imam Abu Dawwod, Imam Ghazali...).
Those that created the theology of Shiaism are all Arab Imams with the first convert to Islam Imam Ali and are in Prophet Mohamad's family (Imam Ali, Imam Hassan, Imam Hussein & the rest of the 12 imams).
Appreciated George for your kind information. Long live your beautiful libnan.
LOL 😂
Ali r.a and his sons were Sunnis..
They were not like these blade runner shias
@@Real_Gigachaddi
The first Shias were Arabs.
Facts. Majority of them are from Khorasan.
Persian imams😂😂😂
None of them is from persian 😂😂
Imam Bukhari is a Uzbek 😂
Thanks for this insightful presentation.