1000cc First Motorcycle at 24? | Is it a good idea?
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- As I make lots of videos about helping people getting on motorcycles and the fact people are getting into riding a lot at the moment I have been asked a few times. Can I get a 1000cc at 24 and is it a good idea? Here are more logical and opinion-based thoughts on it.
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From a 50cc scooter to a h2. LET'S goooooo
At 84, I'm heading down the CCs not up lol. Down to 600 at the mo & in a couple of years time, I'll be pedaling my grandson's trike😂
Mad respect
I got my GSXR 1000 because i wanted one for years. Started on a 125, then 750. The biggest difference i found is that the 1000 it's incredibly violent when hard on the power, then near the top it takes off again, it's just relentless. It's caught me out a few times but got away with it, and i think it has made me a better, smoother rider. Respect the bike and pick your moments.
125's man. They are utter garbage and need binning off lol. I hated mine with a passion
Spicy: “There isn’t a moment you can ride without seeing a single car. You know, it’s chockablock, nonstop. Everywhere you look, CARS!”
*Looks down road on the left*
No cars. 😂
from 0:00 to 2:31 there was only one car moving
I have a weird theory. How about, as a general rule, you should have 1cc for every day's riding that you have completed. So you would need about 3 years experience before getting a 1000cc bike. Of course I'm mental. 😆
Haha I like it not sure it fully works and the first 50 is going to be tricky haha
@@spicy110 you have to opt into the first 50 by a bicycle :D
Good idea getting up to the 125cc would be interesting though
ride for 8 months now you're ready for a 250
This video has just come out and I've just spent the morning insuring and taxing my first "big" bike, a 1992 Suzuki GSX600F after getting my license last week ( I'm 26). I've spent just under 3 years riding a 125 and the thought of trying to ride a 1000cc right now on the road just seems crazy. I'm sure there are people who can manage it but I'd bet they are very far and few between. Love the videos keep it up!
easy to ride a 1000cc. Seriously. Just take your time and get used to it maybe in a quiet car park first. If you try screwing it and being valentino rossi around town, you'll end up coming off the thing, probably. Like any bike when you first jump on, you are not too violent on the throttle until you're used to the bikes power, same thing applies to 1000.
You’re so right Spicy, my last three bikes have been 1000cc or bigger, yeah you can accelerate hard in second gear but before you’re grabbing for third you’re already way over the national speed limit and having to ease off.
true. 750 is ample these days for riding. I have a zxr750 and tbh, round town im barely out of 2nd. It's also quick as fook so you get lots of power too if you get a chance.
I passed my test and bought an 08 R1. The throttle works both ways
Yes I know your reply was 2 years ago.. Anyhow at what age and how on earth did you insure it.
34 and a zx9r is easily £2100 annual or £230 a month. 😢
I'm 'old skool' ... Riding a 750 plus bike is like watching a VCR and then pressing the fast forward button, and still taking in and understanding the information presented to you enough to, essentially, keep you alive... The acceleration from a bigger bike can be an addictive adrenaline rush...
"Don't ride faster than your angels can fly"... Ogri... Always stuck with me.
It's a good idea to 'work up to' a quicker bike... In my experience & opinion... Nice work Spicy.
Bob on!
To give some perspective on this and i agree 100% with this video.
I passed in 2019 aged 40 and bought a GSXR600. was nervous and it was very very fast to ride, i rode about 2K miles on it and did a 4 day tour of wales on it as well with luggage, this was less than a year after riding. i sold it because i was fed up with the screaming noise of it.
roll onto to 2020 and i bought an L6 GXSR1000 and dear god the difference is mind bending, i rode if for 500 miles before opening it up properly in the gears. i was biulding speed and not thrashing it.
first time i tried it , 1st gear and 85mph and its crazy fast, second time i tried it was through 2nd 3rd and 4th, and it scared me a bit, front wheel lifts all the way through and your eyes do blur and you can't process what is happening around you. you can't focus and it can catch you out.
I'm glad I started on a 125cc, why? It's very forgiving for rev matching gear changes. I locked up my rear tyre on my 125cc a few times, which was okay as it was a lighter bike. It also gave me an understanding how the cluch, gears & movability worked. I was only 19 when i done my cbt (prior experience was a 110cc dirtbike for 4 years). Now yes, after i'd say a year i got quite board of my 125cc as i'd need to pin the throttle just to keep up with traftic on a dual carriageway. Still, going around county roads and just being out. Was a blast, you'd never see silly speeds on a contry road or at least you shouldn't & that's a big reason i'd point someone to a 400-700cc.
Honestly, you don't need a 1000cc a 700-900cc is plenty unless you also wanna do track days. 700-900CC will easily do 130+MPH then easily do 0-60 in less then 4 seconds. Remeber aswell higher cc = higher insurance costs especially at 24.
Totally agree spicy have a Honda cb1300 all the torque in the world but some of the best times of riding was 100% on a 125cc 👍🏻
Keep it going bud 👌🏻
Nice video, Spicy. I agree. You could also mention how bloody uncomfortable it is crawling around at 30/40mph on a 1000cc bike. Bike hates it. Body hates it.
Very true, my limited knowledge of riding my fireblade so far tells me it literally is only comfortable tucked in at high speeds otherwise you generally need to constantly squeeze your knees on the tank and brace your core to take weight off your wrists, slow manoeuvres are also a pain due to the short turning radius!
I remember watching you when you had 10k subs back in the day! Nice to see you growing still loving the videos.
Great video and subject. As an older geezer about to start on his biking journey, I guess I'm in a similar position as a 24yo about to do their direct access, only with 37years car driving experience, and as I passed my test the year before you were born I can testify to the increase in traffic! I wouldn't say that the standard of driving has improved over the years either. It's just no fun for me on four wheels anymore.
Anyhoo, I got all that need for speed driving out of my system a long time ago, so the idea of a 1000cc sports bike is completely wasted on me....that and I don't think my old knackered eyeballs could cope focusing on anything fast enough at ridiculous speeds! Just give me something that I can pootle around on for the sheer joy of riding and I'll be happy 😁 As you say, you only know you, your abilities and what floats your boat vehiclewise.
I'll probably always be an advocate of moving up the CC's. 125 is a great starter. Its limitations will curb a rider's excesses until he or she tames them, and then they can move up. The most accidents and deaths come in that early age range, and a 125 gives time for the experience to buil
I own a 1000cc powerful MT10. Honestly the best bike I've ever owned but I'm glad I didn't go there in the early days. If you think you lack self control and are impulsive then maybe fast motorcycles aren't for you.
I was thinking that especially when he said you can have more fun on a 125 than a 600 or 1000 I was like WTF is he talking about
Personally i think its a bit pointless get a 1000cc sports bike because the roads in this country are shockingly bad.
Great vid!
Another thing to consider for an absolute first motorcycle... you WILL crash it even if it's a little crash. I dumped my 125 3 times before I finally realised there was something I needed to do to improve my safety while keeping up the speed. Dumping the 125 wasn't as bad as a big bike. cheaper also. Should not get a 600+ for your first bike. Second bike I believe is fine considering what Spicy has said :)
Im 45....... i went from CBT to direct access to a GSXR1000 within 27 days. (Passed all first time)
I've never regretted it. Have respected it from the get go. Yes the bike is utterly insane. Go with what you feel.
Not everyone is the same i get that. A younger person may not feel at all comfortable so each to their own on what u feel happy with.
Stay safe all.
How long ago did you pass?
@@spicy110 earlier this year. Covered roughly 1000 miles already. Its not a lot but all experience.
I firmly believe buy what your happy with, be it what cc you buy. Everyone one is different.
But this "oh no you can't own a 1000 for a first bike" is utter rubbish.
I agree, very dependent on the person and their mentality. The statement of not starting on a liter bike is very true for some people and on average the younger they are the more likely they will be one of the "not a good idea" ones. However, it is also true you can come to great damage on a 125cc. So again down to each person but the average still rings true as you are less likely to be doing 140mph on a 125cc haha
There is also a huge difference between let's say an entry level Ninja 650 and 636. I think many misconceive the differences between CC too, which as we know, can as in the example; mean very different BHP and power delivery
From a ybr125 to a ybr125. Living the dream spicy🤣
All good and sensible comments.
It's funny too how some bikes seem to egg you on to go faster. Others, shout 'nothing to prove' and slowing down makes you appreciate the wonderful countryside - even with all those horses, cars, tractors and runners!
I remember going from 350LC to a CB900 (age 20)- it was a life saver. I was always going too fast on the LC because an LC only came alive at 6000rpm, so you kept it on the boil for that 6-9K power band. The CB900 was easy going, went faster than the LC in speed terms, but was for me a safer bike to ride because it didn't encourage silliness. These days I look at a bike's torque figure, not the bhp number.
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I have a 2004 GSXR600 as a first bike, it's been absolutely fine, the big difference between it and a 1000 is the 1000 has power across the rev range and a lot more low down torque, the 600 needs to be revved, that said it does spin up very quick and gets mental in the power bands (one at 7K and another at 11K), it will pull like a train up to 150, so if you are reckless with the throttle you will get into trouble. Mostly i'm happy just to cruise about on it then pick my moments carefully.
K4 club!
Well said
Everyone should experience having a thousand at least once in their life.
I currently ride a 125 I've had more 125's than any other engine sizes I've had 600's, 750's and 1 1100. The 125 does everything I need it to do and I can ride it to its full potential pretty much all the time it's fun. As for a 24yr old getting a litre sports bike as a 1st bike bad idea really bad idea.
Honestly you are right in what you say it’s all about the rider, I am just going from an lxr125 to a VFR800 and I knew what I was getting in to if I don’t respect the bike and take it easy till I get myself in the trouble very fast . It’s all about the build up and the person who is riding
Another thing that might be worth mentioning is relative performance of bikes. My old boss, for example, learnt to ride in the 70s then didn't ride for years between the mid-80s and the year 2000. He returned to "only" a 650cc and wondered why the person handing over the bike at the dealership wasn't too keen on him riding it home on a cold, wet and rapidly darkening day after hearing he hadn't ridden for about 16 years. As he headed home he realised why, since the "smaller" bike felt hugely more powerful than the "bigger" bikes he'd ridden in his youth.
The sound of a V-Twin 1000 is the reason I got one.
I'm 25 now. Did my DAS at 24 and was so happy i could finally get my GSXR1000. £10k for the bike i could afford no problem... the insurance of £2.7k-£3.7k i could not. Instead got a Street Triple and really really learned how to rag about on that thing. THANK GOD i didn't start on a 1k machine, because now when i get on one i feel so much more confident. I prob learned a lot of things i never would have if i had jumped straight to the "biggest fastest bikes". Equally, i have learned speed is nothing to do with bike capacity and more to do with rider... I must admit i am a bit stupid and a bit of a fast boi but 675cc doesn't stop me from obliterating most litre bikes i see on the street in 'spirited races'.
😂😂😂😂 the 1000cc riders must be shit then or pissed....you abliterate most 1000cc riders on the street lol on you're little 675 😂😂😂 race down country roads with a good strong 1000cc superbike rider you will get absolutely schooled 25-26 years old lots to learn
You talk some bullshit how can bike capacity have nothing to do with speed and more to do with the rider what's your 675 got 100bhp at the rear ....1000cc zx10r gen4 190bhp nearly twice as much. Mate a good 1000cc rider would absolutely smoke you on your 675 no question fck knows who you been racing
All the points you make in this video are well thought out and sensible. HOWEVER.... as a rider who has spent 30 years working up to a 1000cc bike you will never convince me it's safe to give a young person with minimal experience such a vehicle. Learn your craft first on a smaller bike, which in my opinion starts when you have qualified to ride it, not before. Near misses / accidents are the ultimate learning tool and you're better off having them on a 125 than a GSXR750!
I do not disagree at all, but I have learnt people will do it anyway so at least offer some sane advise. haha
I agree with you totally. Advertising has convinced everyone they need MORE of everything. Where I live everyone rides 1250 GS bikes which are great for touring Europe 2 -up but none of them actually do that so it’s just massive overkill.
Quite an interesting video in regards to my situation. I'm currently 23 and will be 24 in January and plan on doing the direct access course. Me and my Dad plan on doing the NC500 in the summer of next year. I've been looking at different bikes to buy for that trip and came across the Honda NC700/750 (budget is between £2000-£3000). The problem I found though is that the bike itself would be fantastic for touring and commuting due to its torquey engine and great mpg but once I finish the trip I'd be left with a bike that is purely for touring and commuting. It redlines at around 7000rpm (car territory) which is hardly something you can ring out on a backroad so I decided to look into sports/naked bikes, etc with the ability to add creature comforts for the trip. Having watched your video I'm now content that I don't need a big 1000cc bike and am looking into getting a 600cc. Specifically I'm looking at a Honda Hornet (I also understand the Yamaha XJ6 is also a good choice).
The choice of bikes for younger riders is shit these days. I went RG125F (destricted of course), FZR250 (45hp), CBR400(60hp), VFR400 (best bike ever - 60hp) and then went up a 100hp ZX6R. I own a RC390 (not sure why) and 43hp is too slow to be stuck on for any length for time. What we need is a 60hp 400cc class again. You'd be amazed how fast the old 400s are compared to modern A2 bikes.
You can kill yourself on any bike tbh. I almost died on a 125 and destroyed one of the others head on into a car. Cornerspeed is king! (except when you run wide)
Well said buddy 👏
I think buying a 1000cc as a first bike is just natural selection really
Yes, if you're short of the required brain cells to be classed as normal😂
Great video as always. I got a zx6r a1p as my first bike mainly because I’ve always wanted one but I’m also 6’4 and I needed something that would carry my frame. I’ve crashed it once and rebuilt it twice and wouldn’t want anything bigger
I’m also 6’4 how comfortable is the zx6r I’m looking at them
I been riding Suzuki 125cc for 3 an a half years on provisional license before I passed my test last year and bought myself a Kawasaki Z800 as my first big bike I have to say the Z800 I got has plenty power, and also a heavy bike weight 230kg and I can handle very well. I almost near crash saveral time as I approach junction and roundabout too fast but like you said on video bigger bike need more breaking distance to stop. Im still getting use to my bike. Its a fun riding bike but I wouldn't recommend to jump to 1000cc straight away if you have no experience riding bike before or you have a few months on 125. Bigger bikes are not forgiving.
Totally agree, fully depends on the person. I went from the adrenaline 125 to a bandit 1200. Started advanced training as soon as I got it. Managed to do Cadwell on it the same year
I had the best times on my DT125lc. as your Bike gets bigger, so does your responsibility.
I have a Bandit 1200 and a GSXR1000K5, they are serious Bikes(100 and 165 whp).
Don't scoff at the Bandit(100hp) it can out-run most vehicles on the road.
Whereas the Gixxer(pronounced 'ji xx er') is like a missile, compared to most Bikes.
I know Bikes have moved on since 2005 with some SuperBikes having a claimed 200+ bhp.
But, my point is, don't be in a rush to go as fast and as big as you can as soon as you can, have fun getting there.
RIDE SAFE and see you out there.
1000cc One THOUSAND SII SEE fast af boy
I did my cbt on a cb500f which I found strange but enjoyed it, I was doing my das 32. I then did my full license on a z650 and had my 30yro cb750 nighthawk sat waiting for me at home. I'm now 2 years into riding and still learning but have moved to a blackbird. What an animal for me it's so much easier to ride than the smaller bikes as it's a bigger framed bike and there's no need to wring it's neck to get gone. But I'm fully aware of the power and speed that it has. Don't think I would have been too bad at 24 but probably would have taken more risks than I do now
It 100% depends on the bike.
I passed my DAS last week, Straight onto a 800cc cruiser, But it just bops along the road nicely, plenty of power... However the SV650's i rode during my lessons were STUPID fast compared to it.
i genuinely think the CB1000r (2019) is the easiest to ride, most docile, never need to put your feet down, "don't think about anything and just ride it" bike that i've ever had. Obviously, if you're a ham fisted chimp with it you won't be riding it for very long, but it's very easy to ride it correctly. If someone wants to go from learning straight to something big, they should actually talk to their instructor about it, learn what techniques you develop with bigger bikes, and ride the learner bikes like that. Don't drop your wrist when applying the throttle, roll it between your finger and thumb while keeping the brake covered, that stuff.
1000 superbike a personal teleportation device, think about it and you are there, but new riders can't handle that
Initial thoughts before watching this video is no . I will now watch the video 😆
Up to the riders maturity. The funny thing is the bike is so powerful that you’re not used to it scaring you into submission. You end up respecting it and the roads a lot more knowing how quickly it is to get into trouble.
So let me give my $.02 on buying one, as I went down this path. I'm a bit reckless by nature, I know that. I started riding at around 21 or so. At first I stayed away from liter bikes because I wanted something more beginner friendly (but not a 250), I started with a GSX-750F (Katana), which isn't really "beginner" but it's more up-right and touring than a GSX-R, R6, etc. I rode that for like 1 or 1.5yr before I wanted to upgrade. I didn't want to upgrade because of lack of power, I wanted FUEL INJECTION, and once I got a taste of it on my friend's CBR600 I knew I needed fuel injection. So I bought an R1. I made the decision after saying as you did, the bike isn't going to go faster than I twist the throttle, and I am a bit reckless by nature this was not the case with my GSX, I was always very responsible.
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With the R1 I wasn't as responsible. The power is so addicting, after I found out you can go 100mph in 1st gear and dust virtually anything on the road, it was like crack to me. The UK is a bit more condensed than the US, here in the US, there's lots of places to wind out liter bikes if you don't live in a city (I lived in a college town). I became drastically less responsible while riding that. 150, 160 on 2-lane main roads, but those never really had close calls related to outright speed, as I saved that for major roads, highways, etc., all the close calls came from acting too fast and not thinking about the power, like cracking the throttle too hard in the wet and getting load of wheel spin & shit like that.
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Anyway, that went on for 1yr or so, and nothing happened, I just grew out of it. A Porsche driver told a friend I was riding with I was going to get myself killed if I keep riding as I was, and I was falling in love with my girlfriend at the time (now wife), and eventually just simmered out and grew the fuck up. Thankfully didn't take some accident and injury for that to happen.
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So yea, the long and short of that long-winded story is basically that I *was* responsible on 2-wheels, until I got a liter bike, then I went very irresponsible for a year, and luckily no bad came of it. That all being said, if I buy a sport bike again, I'd buy a liter bike hands down. The torque from down low is great compared to a 600 which requires a bit more revs to start pulling hard.
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What would I recommend? I don't think you can ask a 16 or 20 or 24 year old to "know themselves" very well and know how responsible they are, that comes with age when you look back. So I'd recommend not buying it as a first bike. Buy a 500cc or similar. You can upgrade later when you're a bit more experienced. Buy an old 500 Ninja or something and you can sell it in 1 yr for the exact price you bought it for. Get all those 1st drops out on that thing.
For uk road riding, the most fun I have is on 125s or 250s, much bigger bikes just feel like you are cruising at low revs everywhere. I think the new Kawasaki 400rr will be an absolute blast to ride around on uk roads. Unless you're taking your bikes on tracks or regularly risking losing your license, 600 or 1000 sports bikes aren't going to be nearly as fun because you'll never get to redline them.
😂😂😂😂 never get to redline a 1000cc lol 😂😂😂 sorry bud you are assuming everyone doesn't open there bikes up now then. I have a zx10r and redline on quite roads
125,'s are mopeds 1000cc and 600cc are great fun....a 400cc bike people would get bored in 1 month
Does not matter what you want, it is the "impact" that you will make.
Very true but it's not my place to say no do not do that. People will do what they want after all....most of the time!
Another quality vid Spicy. Looks lovely at 1440p btw. From my experience I went from a 125 to a 500 then onto a 650 and then onto a 120hp street triple, now I ride a more relaxed 900 street twin. Looking back In hindsight I would suggest missing out the 500 and go straight to the 650 save yourself some money. Personally the street triple is all I would ever need on the road it was extremely fast and would certainly give me the tunnel vision that you were talking about so I never felt the urge to ride a 1000cc, as you would have to be a pretty experienced rider to even use all of a street triple on the road. My advice is keep it sensible a light nibble bike with something like a 650 will be plenty fast enough to learn on but at the same time give you enough of a thrill. Besides there aren’t many 1000cc sports bikes that can get away from me even on my street twin through the twisties. 😉
Great vid as always! Really good way to describe the speed blur
"there's a green blur and a grey blur, it's best to try and stay on the grey blur' - Joey Dunlop describing racing on IOM -TT
I’m 43 and doing my CBT next month. I have no intention of getting a 1000cc bike. Despite the fact, that I’m confident that I’m old enough not to ride like a lunatic. (Hopefully) 😬
Good choice. You're a long time dead🤔
I want a 1000cc because of two reasons. 1) the new s1000rr is the best looking bike i have ever seen. 2) the bigger the engine, the longer it lasts
I'm doing my DAS next month on the 28th I have already got a sv 1000 but I have got 9 years experience on 125cc on road and 4 years off road on a kx 500/cr450f but I still know it will take me a long time to be able to fully understand what I have between my legs. Only got my bike as my dad and uncle have the same bike and will be nice to see old bikes out for a meet up every month or so btw nice vid buddy
Im 56 and have just downgraded from a 600 to a 250, the reason is the weight of the 600 i have bad knees and i was alway worried that i was going to drop it
Yes, and it not just knees. At 84, I find that pushing my 600 around a bit of a chore. Fine when it's on the roll, as are most bikes, but it's easy to get caught out having to manhandle it. I will be very reluctant to let my 4 potter go but, age catches up with all of us, if you're lucky lol.
@@barriewilliams4526 I have lost count the number of time i had nearly dropped the 600 just moving it from my drive, so i did a straight swap for the 250
This is why I stick with V-twins you can use the power on the road.
I think it also depends massively on what type of bike you want. If you want a H2 at 24 then I think no it’s probably not a good idea. But if you want something like a VStrom 1000 then that’s probably more manageable. I’m not saying you can’t get in the same trouble and crash just as easy, but the same CC bike puts out around half of the power of the H2.
Yes I would agree if you are going to get a 1000, something like that would be "better" but they are still bloody fast!
Mmmmm 1st bike (18 years old) 750cc, 2nd bike (19 Years old) 1000cc, followed but a 250GP race bike, then another and another but I think I may be bad example.... ;-P But I am still riding a 1000cc still at 60 ;-)
I recently bought a zx6r, i have yet to see its max speed, but frankly I don't need to. Yeah its fast and all that but I also wanna ride it tomorrow. First thing a colleague at work asked was if i will be tuning it. Yeah ill be tuning it. Changing the brake pads and brakelines and some good tires (2nd hand buy). He laughed at me. Hope he never buys a bike. Moral of the story: tires and brakes are your lifeline, keep those in check and use your brain, and i think one could ride any bike.
And then you go on r/MotoUK and an R6 is a beginner bike, an SV650S is boring and anyone doing any kind of full throttle pull on any bike at any speed is scum of the Earth and should be banned from driving. They all ride 1000s but I wonder why. What is there to do on a 1000 anyway that a smaller bike can't do if you abide by the law? General consensus seems to be that 600s are more fun on the track so it doesn't make sense.
I am here for my pennies worth. At 35yr old I decided I needed to fulfil that urge of owning a motorbike. So, I saved my arse off and even each month bought a piece of safety kit in no particular order helmet, jacket, gloves etc. Then I went on to do a Direct access course taking in to account I hadn't ever held a license for a motorbike before. Course completed first time round and all is well. Now I get asked "what was your first bike?". In my head I had already agreed that buying a 1000cc bike for my first bike was just a very stupid mentality to have. So, I went out and limited myself to a 600cc and in the end I bought a 2004 600GSXR. The response to this was still "are you mad a 600cc for your first bike?". My answer was very simple you pass that test on a 600cc and as Spicy mentions not all 600cc are the same. So, the 600cc Honda CB is quite different to the Suzuki 600GSXR but not all that much different a few extra BHP here and there. I love my choice in bike and I have loads of fun when I am out on it, safe fun. There is no thinking I am Rossi or Marquez, only ride to your own potential. As I have learned my own bike there is a fuller understanding of the capabilities I have and the bike has. These are two completely different factors. Basically, what I am trying to say is a 600cc is enough to have fun, learn more. A 1000cc for a first bike is EGO over understanding of what you are actually getting yourself into.
Build up your experience and roadcraft, and move uo through the different power levels. Jumping onto a 1000cc with little experience is asking for trouble in my op.
Yer I'm on a 125cc atm and that's enough for me rite now thanks for the info and food for thought haha love the videos as always..
Other exception are people who only want to do trackdays.
They can start on a 1000cc, because their learning curve is based on trackdays and professional guidance (most of the time).
Honestly it’s maturity like you say, let natural selection do the rest
YES !
i agree with you . i own a blackbird just now . you can lose your licence in second easy . and another thing , big bikes are very heavy and not so good at low speeds .
Thanks spicy, getting my direct access and then getting on a h2! jokes aside, i actually have a cb650r and love it - plenty enough power for me for now, i'll look at something bigger and more comfortable for when I want to tour. ps loved your hyabusa vids
Wasn't unheard of back when I passed my test in 1985 at 17.
Smaller bikes are easier to insure and keep running by the seems of things aswell as some smaller bikes also seem easier to park in some spaces not to mention filtering seems easier. Riding to the limit of the bike also seems more fun on a smaller bike that to your limit on a bigger bike.
The people who go for 1000cc as their first bike, despite the good advice of experienced riders are exactly the ones who shouldn't get one. Then there is always this argument of "I don't want to buy a 400 or a 600 just to sell it after a year and buy the 1000 anyways" Why not!? like seriously? You don't have to buy a new bike and spend $9K on it,...in fact, you shouldn't buy a new bike as a first bike, because you're going to drop it in some slow speed maneuver and that's a fact. Go for a used bike in the $3K range. You will save on insurance, you will gain experience and, much more important(!), You will know what you really want when it's time to upgrade. You won't even lose money on it, because you saved on insurance, gas and will still be able to sell it for $2.5k or more after a year or two of ownership. Bikes hold their value, especially if they're looked after and have ABS. I'm telling you, you will be scared sh!tless of a 1000cc if it is your first bike and you will progress so much slower. I can't talk you out of it but if you have the slightest doubt in your mind, do yourself a favor and just testride something like a Ninja 650 before you make your decision.
I'm getting a 1000cc bike because I'm 6'8" and anything smaller is too small. :(
Of course some people don't get that.
No one needs a 1000cc when it comes to sports bikes. Moto GP riders have got in trouble with sponsors because they refused to ride the manufacturer’s 1000cc bikes on the road
I think you are dead right., Ive always followed your advice i went from a 125 to a sv650s mini twin bike an it was horrendously too quick to ride. i reckon a duke 390 would be the best thing after a 125
I personally went 50cc 4 gears manual bike to a 600cc sportbike (was a '02 ninja 636). If you're smart about it it's neither terrifying nor difficult, but that i think is a very personal matter
i have a 125 cruiser (chinese bike) and despite what everyone says i absolutely love it. iv only had minimal problems which every bike to my understanding have.
I got my 600cc with direct access at 32 years old the insurance was £560 fully comp.
I wish
My bike shits fire when I want it to. 90% of the time that is not a feasible option. However, I would argue it gets me out of trouble when required and allows me to stay with traffic flow etc etc.......but I am 41😂
I went from a 125 to a 750 without many problems. I’ve had the bike for a year and never needed to red line any gear. If you use a litre bike to its full potential, you’ll lose your licence or life. I’m extremely happy I went for a 750:over a 600 though. Having a litre sports bike is a big flex though.
That's a different story because you learn your clutch control and balance on the 125. I wouldn't want to learn clutch control and balance on a heavy 1000cc with a snappy throttle. That being said I think 125's are dangerous in other ways because they struggle to do the speed limit in some situations, make overtaking dangerous and encourage you to maintain your speed around bends instead of slowing down. I think learners should start on a 250/300 and then ride whatever they want after a test.
@@6Twisted You'll learn all that through cbt, mod 1, mod 2. Litre sports bike are roughly same weight as a Gladius 650 which a lot of training schools use. If you don't have an understanding of torque, bhp & what different cc bikes can do after all your training, then you shouldn't be on a bike at all imo. If Americans can jump on litre bikes with just their basic training, most people in the UK can with the correct training.
Im fancying a Honda NT650v Deauville..... unfortunately they don't make it in a 125cc.....it comes in 650cc or 700cc for the newer model.
I'm 30 and my job depends on keeping my licence clean. So speed limits are my friend.
Its dependant alot on the mentality of the rider to not twist the throttle like a smaller bike. I've been riding a 125 for close to two years and about to do my full test. I've rode 750cc bikes and big cruisers on private land and feel comfortable with how they pick up speed and stop. If someone wants to get a big bike right away just think would you drive a Bugatti Chiron just after your car test? Another great vid spicy
loved the bottom ref ..."slap it down "
So glad someone got it
I got a CBR600F bike when I was 24 (my first bike). Insurance dropped when I was 25 a few weeks later. After riding for a few years I switched to a CBR1100XX. In my opinion the 1100 is easier and more relaxing to ride. I don't have to thrape the bejesus out of it.
I questioned my buying of a 750 and having it in the shed before I'd done my mods and yes I experienced the dot in the distance and everything else a blur lol but with the right attitude towards the extra power it's all good 😎
Thank you for an excellent video
Pretty much any modern bike of any type is relatively friendly to ride at "legal" speeds - it's the going round the corners that's the trick... 100mph down the autobahn for hours on end is a yawn - try that in the Peak District, result is heavy fine/prison/death...
I did my test at 17 and went straight from a 250cc to 900cc zx9r, I had been riding from 5 years old 6 months later i was on a z13000
would i recommend it hell no unless your experienced, i lost 7 mates in the first 6 months all because of speed thats why cbt's were brought in because of all the road deaths
great advice as always buddy
I have a full licence but I still ride 125 as it does wat I need and even tho I have my licence I had a big accident on a 300cc and since then my cloaar and shoulder cannot take the strain anymore with bigger bikes
Girls on Instagram go from nothing to H2’s then again they ride for 3 days a year 😂😂
Riding a grom like rossi is the way to go.
Had 1 year on my cbt,,now got me kawasaki er5,500cc,i gota say the power difference is huge and the insurance not much more than my 125,down to my age,,il have this for a year or two,,learn and ride then look to upgrade,mines paid for and no extra monthly payments,,my advice move up in steps,better for you better for your wallet👍
Personaly I don't see the point of these powerful bikes on public roads,you never get to use all that power.
Hey, I'm 25 and thinking about getting my licence but no idea what cc to go for as I know nothing about bikes, any recommendations will be welcomed
Had my little 125 on a cbt for almost a year now, plan on doing my tests this summer then getting something around the 400cc range, and im a chilled 39 year old.
Started on a 125 moved on to a 700cc supermoto looking for a 600cc sportsbike next where in the uk are you?
I also think that you only get experience over time. As boring as it sounds. Riding a 1000cc fast and safely in areas that allow for it a little better takes time. I know this having had a friends young brother kill himself when he moved from a 250cc to 1000cc after he passed his test years ago. He completely messed up a corner on a country B road and his life was over. You need to have a lot of mental control to deal with a 1000cc like a Fireblade.
My 1st bike was a FZS1000 no problem all you have to remember is you can lose your license so much faster than a 600cc, also oddly the insurance on my fzs1000 was cheaper than my sv650
I would say get a 300-600cc easier to ride then a 125cc can chill and ride 1000cc is a death wish to ride at the start
On the german Autobahn (Highway) u could use the power XD
I own a cbr600rr its insane but as a 50 something i have the restraint to audit my behavior..... If you would like to do a bit on if a 600cc bike is good as a starter you may come and borrow my bike for a day and show people how absolutely insane a 600rr is.... I live near you so hit me up if you want too 👍