The Untold Story of Sam Raimi's Cancelled Spider-Man 4 | Cutshort

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  • @Cutshort
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  • @kinjapleb4228
    @kinjapleb4228 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17560

    I hope Raimi realizes that people still haven't given up on Spider-Man 4.
    EDIT: 3 years after this comment, I just wanna say thank you to everyone who believed along side me. It wasn't Spiderman 4, but it was spectacular. Thank you.

    • @aaaaaaaaaaaadddd
      @aaaaaaaaaaaadddd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +733

      yes.. we're still hoping.

    • @tenshikn
      @tenshikn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +688

      It’s too late...sadly

    • @agusaris5031
      @agusaris5031 5 ปีที่แล้ว +486

      Too late, Toby dont want have a deal with Spider-Man stuff again

    • @misternicepool8639
      @misternicepool8639 5 ปีที่แล้ว +293

      @@agusaris5031 it's not to late there is always a chance if I meet Rami I will go like RAMI MAKE A SPIDERMAN 4 OR I WILL KILL HIM JK but I will tell him that make a spider man

    • @spiderleg648
      @spiderleg648 5 ปีที่แล้ว +246

      Not without Toby

  • @dusitn_
    @dusitn_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2817

    "Toby maguire will come back when we FIX THIS DAMN DOOR"

    • @evanpeltier
      @evanpeltier 5 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      I'm still not paying rent 😂😂😂😂

    • @rova1637
      @rova1637 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That caught me off guard lol

    • @thrashgamer368
      @thrashgamer368 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Toby maguir is dog shit

    • @ged1761
      @ged1761 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      No,he will come back when its PIZZA TIME

    • @waifiy4433
      @waifiy4433 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Edward HARRISON [12M3] don’t copy lines from my boi the cosmonaut variety hour

  • @memezoffuckery3207
    @memezoffuckery3207 2 ปีที่แล้ว +576

    Adult reviewers: Spiderman 3 was the worst Spiderman movie ever
    My 7 year old self: BEST SPIDER-MAN MOVIE EVER!

    • @brohdez8857
      @brohdez8857 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Dawg I loved that movie so much.

    • @mind-blowing_tumbleweed
      @mind-blowing_tumbleweed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Me at 26

    • @brnosnts
      @brnosnts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Litreally me hahahah the black spiderman suit was so badass

    • @everythingiseconomics9742
      @everythingiseconomics9742 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is so relatable.

    • @nikoloznasaridze6328
      @nikoloznasaridze6328 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      How can they say that? I'm an adult and I say Spider-Man 3 is levels above both TASM, Homecoming and FFH. No Way Home matches it only because of the crazy comeback things that happened, the plot of NWH is nearly weak, main Peter Parker is the only one who has a character development and the soundtracks are basic

  • @whisperofthebookworm5341
    @whisperofthebookworm5341 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2381

    Raimi did not deserve the hate he got for Spider-Man 3.
    He handled Sandman, Harry, and venoms influence perfectly.
    If he had saved Venom/Eddie as a villain for the next movie, it could have been perfect. Harry is proof that a story spanning multiple movies is very effective.
    This idea of characters evolving and a sub-plot building over an multiple movies paved the way for the MCU.

    • @SpaceMovie1992
      @SpaceMovie1992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Exactly !

    • @bighatastrea
      @bighatastrea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      It would've been a much cooler ending if they just left Venom as a cliffhanger, with the symbiont dripping down on Eddie and then a cut lmao

    • @IcyDiamond
      @IcyDiamond 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@bighatastrea Yeah I feel saving Venom for Spider-Man 4 would’ve been better

    • @TheBlueB0mber
      @TheBlueB0mber 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Raimi has been brought on to direct the next Dr. Strange movie so he's at least Spiderman adjacent. We'll see where they go with this whole multiverse malarkey.

    • @mlevins2973
      @mlevins2973 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Agreed, the "villain overload" makes Peter feel like he's spread too thin from all the enemies he's making, after Spiderman 2s internal battle ended with him deciding to fully devote himself to being a hero, 3 is sort of "is one hero enough"
      Actually gives stakes to Harry's change of heart too. Pete already showed he can defeat sandman alone

  • @Starwarsawesomeeu
    @Starwarsawesomeeu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4713

    “Don’t cancel it just give me a chance”
    “What about Spider-Man 4 did you give it a chance? Did you?”

    • @somedumbspammer4408
      @somedumbspammer4408 2 ปีที่แล้ว +258

      *_Raimi:_*_ "You took Spider-Man 4 from me. Fans loved it."_
      *_Sony:_*_ "No, they despised it. It would have been an embarrassment to them."_

    • @sotiris168
      @sotiris168 2 ปีที่แล้ว +145

      @@somedumbspammer4408 oh look at little sam raimi. Gonna cry?

    • @Strike-hopper
      @Strike-hopper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      Sony: what does it matter to you
      Raimi:everything! You son of ditch

    • @Starwarsawesomeeu
      @Starwarsawesomeeu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      All jokes aside To be fair it wasn’t Sony’s fault, Raimi like it said in the video stopped it

    • @abiyyufh1566
      @abiyyufh1566 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Sam Raimi: you don't know how much i sacreficed

  • @brym3452
    @brym3452 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3292

    Fans: We still need a Spider-Man 4
    SONY: GIVE ME RENT

    • @brennonh468
      @brennonh468 3 ปีที่แล้ว +136

      After you fix this damn door!

    • @the.comic_artst033
      @the.comic_artst033 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      You'll get your rent when you fix this damn door

    • @TheHumblePotato
      @TheHumblePotato 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      This made my day 😆

    • @themythicwaffle
      @themythicwaffle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      YOU’LL GET YOUR RENT WHEN YOU GIVE US OUR DAMN MOVIE!

    • @spud-man1048
      @spud-man1048 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I say fuck sony they are assholes

  • @nickymo
    @nickymo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1420

    Raimi SAVED spider-man 3. Look at how messy the Amazing Spider-man films turned out under the exact same pressure from sony and avi arad. its amazing how cohesive spider-man 3 is despite what Raimi was dealing with. I love the movie and he’s a class act.

    • @chaiam
      @chaiam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Agreed. Amazing 1 was alright but it was a facsimile which Marvel managed to avoid (instead making Spider-Man dependent on Iron Man which kind of ruined the whole idea of him being a solo hero but never mind) but Amazing 2 was a complete mess by the end. Still, as he made it, and called it awful he knows how good it could have been

    • @g.o.a.t5975
      @g.o.a.t5975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@trueirony2116 It's Emma Stone, not Emma Watson.

    • @retrokoh1507
      @retrokoh1507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@chaiam Honestly I didn't mind that he latched onto Iron Man in Homecoming. He latches onto a fellow Avengers member in each movie, which makes sense as he is the youngest and least experienced Avenger.
      I get that it may be a little more interesting if he were completely solo, and I agree with that, but I feel like there is a method to what they are doing.

    • @DrDanka69
      @DrDanka69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@chaiam yeah but now he isn’t iron man jr he will finally be the solo Spider-Man

    • @Pissoff56
      @Pissoff56 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The amazing Spider-Man movies weren’t bad

  • @Noodlekdoodle
    @Noodlekdoodle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +728

    “Spider-Man 3 was ruined by its villain overload.”
    *Spider-Man No Way Home with 5 villains: “I’m gonna put some dirt in your eye.”*

    • @vinnodhnaidu
      @vinnodhnaidu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      6... that's why they're called the sinister 6

    • @jaywood7501
      @jaywood7501 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@vinnodhnaidu they probably only said that cause only 5 are confirmed for now

    • @vinnodhnaidu
      @vinnodhnaidu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jaywood7501 that we know of

    • @Noodlekdoodle
      @Noodlekdoodle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@vinnodhnaidu Venom might be the 6th villain since it was confirmed in the Venom 2: Let There Be Carnage post credit scene.

    • @rayyanel-nafaty4227
      @rayyanel-nafaty4227 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      They're no the sinister six.
      The original sinister six comprised of:
      1. Doc Ock
      2. Vulture
      3. Mysterio
      4. Electro
      5. Kraven
      6. Sandman
      Lizard and the green goblin were never part

  • @causethisisthriller2729
    @causethisisthriller2729 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3967

    I find Sony's lack of faith in Raimi disturbing.

    • @nevermore7373
      @nevermore7373 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Liking solely for that username.

    • @playboikeemy2256
      @playboikeemy2256 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      they cannot hide forever

    • @Jaxzius
      @Jaxzius 5 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      I feel like they shouldn’t have pressured Raimi so much on Spider-man 3, it should’ve ended with the Symbiote merging with Eddie Brock. Venom should’ve been in the 4th one with a better story plot, possibly another villain like Vulture

    • @Jadesbrother
      @Jadesbrother 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I know right? Haven’t they seen the evil dead series?

    • @acewilson5898
      @acewilson5898 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Faith in the moron that disgraced the MCU? Lol ok bud. Seeing how he thought he made grown ass men look like legit high schoolers and made Tobey almost NOTHING to what Spidey truly is? What kinda shit you smoke? Durrrrrr organic webbing and he doesn't even talk during his "fights" yeah try again. Except don't. Raimi clearly has never read a comic book.

  • @timdecoursey287
    @timdecoursey287 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2993

    The most important thing I've learned from this is that Sam Raimi seems like a damn good guy.

    • @Spongebrain97
      @Spongebrain97 5 ปีที่แล้ว +232

      A guy who actually cares about the movies he's directing and isnt just doing it for money

    • @Welsh_Dragon756
      @Welsh_Dragon756 5 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      He is a phenomenal director. His evil dead trilogy is practically perfect and without the studio interference I would have expected the same of this one as well.

    • @kikirocy5390
      @kikirocy5390 5 ปีที่แล้ว +108

      I just fucking hate Sony and Avi Arad for ruining Sam Raimi’s vision for Spiderman 3 and 4. He’s one of my favorite directors and he is so underrated.

    • @KayceeJonesCKiwas
      @KayceeJonesCKiwas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@cgamerking9728 and even 6. Omygosh I hate sony

    • @tobejaison9781
      @tobejaison9781 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kikirocy5390 please don't use any bad words and please don't hate.

  • @Wcwhitelaw
    @Wcwhitelaw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +353

    As a kid in 2007 I thought Spiderman 3 was excellent, looking back as an adult I can definitely see why it would've confused and maybe upset the wider audience but at the same time I still really do enjoy the third installment to this day from both nostalgia and a part of me that still loves that bad ass black suit.

    • @inmyOWN_world
      @inmyOWN_world 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Same here. Watching it back then in my twenties and watching it just last week in my 30s I still loved it. But I am a Tobey maguire Spider-man fan! I love Sam Raimi's installments!!

  • @N3G4T3
    @N3G4T3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    "If a director doesn't love something, it's wrong of them to make it" now that's a quote the current industry needs to stand by.

    • @supagreatman2826
      @supagreatman2826 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey everyone I stream

    • @mauriciolandos4712
      @mauriciolandos4712 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The reason Star Wars sequel trilogy was so bad, and the reason the Mandalorian series so good

  • @ashleytuchin7693
    @ashleytuchin7693 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5814

    Wow, I've got a lot of respect for Sam Raimi: the studio screwed up his film, but he still accepts the blame. What a guy!

    • @BigK13372
      @BigK13372 6 ปีที่แล้ว +165

      Ashley Tuchin I know right. Especially when the video compared it to Josh Trank’s response to the studio screwing him over.
      Really shows the difference between a humble director who respects the source material, and a self center director who only cares about his own ideas.

    • @dangermartin69
      @dangermartin69 6 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      Unlike Hillary, who ruined her own campaign yet blames everyone else. Even does a book tour to do so.

    • @veradinx
      @veradinx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      False. I care that she refuses to accept any responsibility for her own failure.

    • @xVenom1976x
      @xVenom1976x 6 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Wykstrom no, not here, here nobody cares.

    • @eliascrooker7773
      @eliascrooker7773 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jonathan Parks stfusb

  • @DominatorPlayer
    @DominatorPlayer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15699

    Spider-Man 3 wasn’t even bad, i actually enjoyed it.

    • @mylesschaff6017
      @mylesschaff6017 4 ปีที่แล้ว +587

      dj ortiz me too. It’s my favorite movie

    • @ifisawyourreplyiwillanswerback
      @ifisawyourreplyiwillanswerback 4 ปีที่แล้ว +832

      dj ortiz yup plus we got bully Maguire from that

    • @Noah-Lach
      @Noah-Lach 4 ปีที่แล้ว +453

      I enjoy it too but the missed potential is painful.

    • @56ur4
      @56ur4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +487

      Adults think too much. I bet young people, say less than 20 like me back then would have loved Spider-man 3 when it came out. The argument should be: "Spider-man 3 should have been better"

    • @primenationgamer5710
      @primenationgamer5710 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      I just pretend that venom not there

  • @samlee6152
    @samlee6152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    I freakin LOVED spiderman 3 when I saw it as a kid, and I still do. I hope Sam Raimi knows that there are millions of people who absolutely love all three movies just like I do. He made spiderman a huge part of my childhood.

    • @Dropletsojoy
      @Dropletsojoy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Spiderman still belongs to Sony. It was a joint effort. Did you not see the Sony logo plastered everywhere

    • @jaleelkhaleeq
      @jaleelkhaleeq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      spiderman 3 was my fav one out of the 3

    • @Lassost
      @Lassost 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me too but Spider-man: Beyond The Spider-Verse first then next Spider-man 4 I think it

  • @triplesrank2314
    @triplesrank2314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I find it very interesting that Sam Raimi didn't attempt to deflect blame entirely by saying the production shouldn't have forced Venom into his script. Although he alludes to it as an issue, his still takes responsibility for his part in it. I think a heck of a lot more of him for that.

  • @foreignwun8585
    @foreignwun8585 5 ปีที่แล้ว +663

    It’s amazing how Toby has only aged with the advent of his beard.

    • @beanos3780
      @beanos3780 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      *Tobey

    • @advent6679
      @advent6679 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Me of his beard?

    • @ahnrho
      @ahnrho 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Absolutely.

  • @frnfission2728
    @frnfission2728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5051

    Bruce Campbell being mysterio would've been the perfect explanation for all his cameos

    • @NotSoRandom_
      @NotSoRandom_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +318

      Raimi is a visionary

    • @zekearmstrong3342
      @zekearmstrong3342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +149

      Sonofabitch you’re right! That would be such an awesome tie to the other movies

    • @therealrcg6838
      @therealrcg6838 2 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      That sounds more like the Chameleon than Mysterio

    • @rangedlime
      @rangedlime 2 ปีที่แล้ว +146

      “Helps maintain the illusion”. A lot of gravitas in that line lol

    • @JusttMike247
      @JusttMike247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@therealrcg6838 right

  • @ansumanmohapatra2978
    @ansumanmohapatra2978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    And now after watching No Way Home,I feel everything that happened in the past was necessary to lead to this magnum opus.

    • @ansumanmohapatra2978
      @ansumanmohapatra2978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And this time,venom wasn't stuffed in.

    • @supagreatman2826
      @supagreatman2826 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey everyone I stream

    • @ansumanmohapatra2978
      @ansumanmohapatra2978 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Red I said 'stuffed in' as in a villain.Ofc he was present,but the placement was apt. storywise.

  • @muhammadkashiftoor
    @muhammadkashiftoor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Spiderman 4 would've been great, I wish they make it in future with the same cast doesn't matter if they're older now, people would still go crazy for it just like they did for Logan!!

    • @robertrodriguez1287
      @robertrodriguez1287 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      1:45 Yeah also nobody else in the comics section aren't saying anything to Avi Arad he's to blame hate

  • @crunchtherest4931
    @crunchtherest4931 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2114

    I wish Spider-Man 4 wasn't cancelled

    • @chicken2695
      @chicken2695 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Same

    • @yesha8900
      @yesha8900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thank God it was cancelled

    • @adrianogarcia7704
      @adrianogarcia7704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Me too, but there's another super hero film coming, it's called Lizard Teen and a TH-cam channel called Ladnin Films is making it :)

    • @epicninjasenseidinosaurpup6957
      @epicninjasenseidinosaurpup6957 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      @@yesha8900 why are you glad it got cancled? It was defintely going to be better than amazing spiderman

    • @yesha8900
      @yesha8900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@epicninjasenseidinosaurpup6957 bcs i don't like Sam Raimi's Spiderman.. that's it

  • @original4fun
    @original4fun 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2993

    Sony - "Thank you for not wasting studios money"
    Also Sony - Wastes studios money on Amazing Spiderman

    • @mr.matrix4082
      @mr.matrix4082 5 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      I mean, Amazing Spider-man 1 was a good movie, 2 however.....

    • @Iconhulk
      @Iconhulk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@mr.matrix4082 It was awful

    • @Warionator
      @Warionator 5 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      Amazing Spiderman, in general, was awful.

    • @bowens9211
      @bowens9211 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      You kids don't know how to judge anything properly lol.

    • @nyirobiojulu3743
      @nyirobiojulu3743 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      original4fun I actually like the Amazing Spider-Man And 2

  • @yannisgodbout2636
    @yannisgodbout2636 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I still want a spider man 4

  • @SylvesterAshcroft88
    @SylvesterAshcroft88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    The vulture was awesome in Homecoming, I'm glad Sam Raimi's vision was at least partially fulfilled in the reboots.

  • @schmiddy1998
    @schmiddy1998 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1585

    I Just realised that when I have kids tobey maguire's spiderman is going to be the equivalent of cristopher reeves superman to them

    • @SwornHeresy
      @SwornHeresy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +134

      That means it'll still be enjoyable. Just don't get heart broken when you show it to your grand kids and it's like watching the Wizard of Oz to them.

    • @tylerbrousseau8021
      @tylerbrousseau8021 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I have an 11 month old so I hear ya!

    • @legoroan9866
      @legoroan9866 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      schmiddy1998 it is now

    • @Woogoo336
      @Woogoo336 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Haven't seen the newest reboot, but the old movies are actually good. The middle reboot, not so much. Just make sure your kids see the best movies first.

    • @mar_speedman
      @mar_speedman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Spider-man 1, Spider-man 2, Spider-man 3, MCU Spider-man, and then if the kids didn't get enough of Spidey, Amazing Spider-man 1, then 2.

  • @bbd4880
    @bbd4880 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4824

    Remember somewhere in some parallel universe they have spider-man 4

    • @sugaryheaven4089
      @sugaryheaven4089 4 ปีที่แล้ว +219

      And a third season of TSSM

    • @JourniBoy
      @JourniBoy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +188

      Don’t....don’t give me hope

    • @saltlord5276
      @saltlord5276 4 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      And pubg is the fortnite ripoff everyone hates

    • @bob97529
      @bob97529 4 ปีที่แล้ว +178

      Somewhere venom wasn't in Spider-Man 3 and it was actually well received

    • @ludvigtheholyblade259
      @ludvigtheholyblade259 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@JourniBoy 😂😂😂

  • @csgorookie
    @csgorookie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This happens when businessman meets with artist. Cudos to Tobey who is loyal to his friend.

  • @Meghnaaad
    @Meghnaaad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I seriously loved Spiderman 3. Every bit of it. I still watch it and still fall in love with Tobey and Raimi again.

    • @videomaker549
      @videomaker549 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ты че на английском настрочил

  • @Zapatozi
    @Zapatozi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2339

    Everytime I think about Spider-Man 4. My heart hurts even more. I remember myself being so hyped for the Lizard and Carnage to show up. I actually loved all the Sam Raimi's Spider-Man movies.

    • @Gavlon
      @Gavlon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Same I remember asking when spiderman 4 was coming out, hearing that they were making a reboot bummed me out, I'm glad they're doing better with the Tom Holland series though

    • @stitchowi
      @stitchowi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gavlon Yo i loved TASM 1

    • @tsresc
      @tsresc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And Black Cat and Vulture too.

    • @Charly608
      @Charly608 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I remembered always waiting and thinking wheres spiderman 4? Wasnt until 8 years later i realized it was canceled

    • @MiguelHernandez-rw1yf
      @MiguelHernandez-rw1yf 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zapatozi me too

  • @LosTimeNeos
    @LosTimeNeos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +908

    Studio interference is actually the worst series killer of all time.

    • @pieinyourfacestreax5138
      @pieinyourfacestreax5138 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I feel like Watchmojo just said this😂

    • @olechristianhenne6583
      @olechristianhenne6583 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thats why making independed films and video

    • @PJBoy
      @PJBoy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bring tobey maguire back
      www.change.org/p/make-spider-man-4-with-tobey-maguire

    • @Mr.v
      @Mr.v 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Tommy Davis tobey was never a good spider-man or peter parker. i was 12 when the movie came out, at the time i was already very much into comics, and when i saw tobey was peter parker i was very disappointed

    • @ShredShady
      @ShredShady 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Mr.v Tobey Maguire's Peter Parker played so well based off the original comics, Sam Raimi handled so well on his character.

  • @user-bx2nd2ko4x
    @user-bx2nd2ko4x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I remember sitting around with my friends and fantasizing about what we would see in the 4th movie. Most of us thought we would see Carnage from the 1994 cartoon on the big screen, since our assumption was based on the idea that if they introduced Venom, the next antagonist was going to be Carnage, which made sense in those days. We discussed all sorts of possibilities, like more violence and blood and stuff, considering that Carnage had weapons that could cut off body parts. Unfortunately, that movie was canceled, and at that point I didn't even know about it due to lack of information, so we kept discussing our ideal movie until someone said, "Don't you know that the movie has been canceled?" When we heard this news, I was devastated because it felt like something precious had been taken from me. A few years later it turned out they were going to reboot the movies, so that last hope was lost. Boy do I miss the good old days when we used to predict the plots of upcoming movies and bet on it.

  • @milad_mofrad
    @milad_mofrad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    14 years later and some people like myself still have hope for Spider-Man 4 💔

    • @alanamcmillian5810
      @alanamcmillian5810 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ikr! I don't care if the actors are older now! I want to see it happen!

  • @brandonp2211
    @brandonp2211 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1194

    I'm pissed we didn't get a 4 Tobey was great in my opinion

    • @Ash12241991
      @Ash12241991 5 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @Edward HARRISON [12M3] actually no, Tom is garbage, disney Spiderman is all happy jolly with no worries

    • @DriveCancelDC
      @DriveCancelDC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      ​@Edward HARRISON [12M3] "I consider things born before I was born to be old" Then you're a dumb twat, enjoy your failure of a life if you go forward with that mentality. Wasted enough time even replying to such a dumb fucking comment so feel free to @ me but I'm not coming back to read any of your nonsense.

    • @eclipsedbtc
      @eclipsedbtc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the best spiderman

    • @eclipsedbtc
      @eclipsedbtc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@Ash12241991 finally somebody got it

    • @illupo300
      @illupo300 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Luke dude chill out it’s spider man lmao but yeah tobey is the best

  • @caseytodd7632
    @caseytodd7632 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1164

    It always came across like Raimi was actually more passionate about making Spider Man 4 than he was with #3. I really wish we could have seen what he had in mind.

    • @DrewLSsix
      @DrewLSsix 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Casey Todd The mess of 3 is what drove the passion over 4.

    • @cellblocknine5385
      @cellblocknine5385 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Casey Todd We DID see what he had in mind. Did you not watch the video?

    • @captainbeastwinger4940
      @captainbeastwinger4940 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He was passiont sm3 wouuldve vulture but sony said no sandman avi arad pushed venom

    • @raulcruz650
      @raulcruz650 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Casey Todd why Sami did carnage in the four one

    • @mysticalace1337
      @mysticalace1337 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Spider-Man 4 would’ve been interesting with Carnage

  • @MrBrown36706
    @MrBrown36706 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I remember reading *SOMEWHERE that one of the plot lines of Spider-Man 4 would’ve been the Daily Bugle being bought out by Adrian Toomes. I believe Raimi has also stated that Felicia Hardy always would’ve become Black Cat had the movie been made. I don’t know how convincingly fearsome Malkovich would’ve made the Vulture, I think Ben Kingsley would’ve been a much better fit. To hear that Raimi and Jeffrey Henderson thought this would’ve been the best Spidey movie yet makes it even more tragic it got cancelled. Raimi in particular really seemed like he had one more great Spider-Man movie left to make, but for whatever reason, I think Sony were gonna go with their reboot regardless. I remember when I learned that we would not be seeing another Tobey Maguire Spider-Man film, nothing has left me feeling more crushed to this day.

    • @williscri
      @williscri 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My dad is trying to get my hopes up, telling me THERE WILL be a Spider-Man 4, but everyone knows thats a lie.

    • @MrBrown36706
      @MrBrown36706 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@williscri Yes sadly despite the fact fans have never given up hope, it probably won’t happen. However, I would not be opposed to Marvel adapting the unmade scripts into comic book form. DC have had a good run recently of continuing the story of Michael Keatons Batman in comic form, why not have more stories for Tobey in comic book form. Garfield could have a similar treatment!

    • @williscri
      @williscri 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrBrown36706 What about spider-man 4 actually gets some comics, and if theres positive reviews, sam remi makes it the movie

    • @acouchchip_3589
      @acouchchip_3589 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I want a Patrick Stewart vulture really. Margot Robbie can play Felicia Hardy/ Black Cat because in the comics, Peter and Felicia have an age difference. Bruce Campbell is Mysterio, according to Raimi. I also would like the Punisher maybe as IDK?

  • @Writing4Jesus247
    @Writing4Jesus247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I wish they would have stopped interfering with Sam and let him have full control. I would have loved a Spider-Man 4, but thanks so much for uploading this! I've always loved Vulture, and those feather daggers are incredible.

  • @jamesasui
    @jamesasui 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2144

    In alternate universe there’s a incredible Spider-Man 4 movie.....

    • @existencedefieslogic9658
      @existencedefieslogic9658 6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      jamesasui great comment!

    • @Lemuel928
      @Lemuel928 6 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Spectacular,not amazing.

    • @TheSenji
      @TheSenji 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      or a poopy spiderman 4

    • @TheSenji
      @TheSenji 6 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      or a spiderman 4 game

    • @SinbadComics
      @SinbadComics 6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Is that the universe that has the incredible Spider-Man 1-3?

  • @Cytron1515
    @Cytron1515 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4781

    Honestly I would rather have watched Spiderman 4 than the rebooted Amazing Spiderman.

    • @vespertil10
      @vespertil10 5 ปีที่แล้ว +132

      I think into the spider verse is Spider-Man 4

    • @spikypikachu1162
      @spikypikachu1162 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Agreed

    • @__stendo__7554
      @__stendo__7554 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Me too bruh i haven’t watched any of the reboots

    • @internet4115
      @internet4115 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I had no idea til i watched it in the theatres 🙈

    • @pieinyourfacestreax5138
      @pieinyourfacestreax5138 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@tobeybills7237 children.....wow. I would like you to explain to the children how these "children comics" kill off every beloved character in the Marvel universe in Deadpool Kills The Marvel Universe and Thanos Wins comic, how Thanos erases half the universe in Infinity War, and how the heroes become zombies in the Marvel Zombies comic.

  • @OfentseMwaseFilms
    @OfentseMwaseFilms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The Song at the End is Fire🔥🔥🔥

    • @robertrodriguez1287
      @robertrodriguez1287 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      1:45 I can't believe nobody in the comics section aren't saying anything to Avi Arad he's to blame hate interfered Sam put Venom in that Sam doesn't no Venom he doesn't care about
      Spider-Man 3 was meant Sandman and Harry Osborne is the new Goblin but Avi Arad ruined it and ruined Sam's Spider-Man 3 trilogy
      If Sam just had creative control with Spider-Man 3 like he did with the first and second it would have been awesome then Sam would have made Spider-Man 4 2011

  • @gildonario
    @gildonario 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I always liked spider man 3, specially as a kid, because of the special effects, and I still think it's a really good movie, I never understood the hate, and the fact that we never got a forth really disappoints me

    • @real_gamer7652
      @real_gamer7652 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I always thought sony cancelles After the 3rd But no they wanted to continue but raimi felt that he couldnt Deal the movie until middle of 2011

  • @thesnuffersnothers2425
    @thesnuffersnothers2425 5 ปีที่แล้ว +264

    Knowing that I’ll never get to see Bruce Campbell as an overweight Mysterio is the worst kind of pain.

    • @bluearcher1559
      @bluearcher1559 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Snuffer Snothers I feel it every day

    • @PJBoy
      @PJBoy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bring tobey maguire back
      www.change.org/p/make-spider-man-4-with-tobey-maguire

    • @sugaryheaven4089
      @sugaryheaven4089 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And now we're gonna see Jake Gyllenhaal as Mysterio in Far From Home

  • @diggledigloto8630
    @diggledigloto8630 6 ปีที่แล้ว +733

    I still want to see spiderman 4

    • @JJ-zo7jv
      @JJ-zo7jv 6 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      Diggle Digloto I’d pay triple for a ticket. I’ve never wanted to see a sequel more than Spider-Man 4.

    • @lilharry999
      @lilharry999 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Jason Jampsh same

    • @tempjohn3510
      @tempjohn3510 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      homecoming was not that bad (but yeah spiderman 4 would of been great)

    • @ernestazure2420
      @ernestazure2420 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same

    • @spiderdudeproductions
      @spiderdudeproductions 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Temp John
      Homecoming was awesome!Tom was better then tobey.No offence tobey likers..

  • @JazzyJac
    @JazzyJac 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Imagine a spider man movie where Sam reimi had full control on which villans he wanted in the movie and without the studio pressing him into putting a villain he didn't know or like? That would be cool

  • @cindywhite4951
    @cindywhite4951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I enjoyed all of his spider man movies and I wish he would make a spider man 4

  • @45a11
    @45a11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2012

    when i saw this movie as a kid i had no idea who venom was, so i had nothing to be let down about, so, i adored venom in this movie, i thought a dark reflection of spider-man was awesome, and the monstrous look of venom had me enthralled, and the emo peter parts were just hilarious to me. definitely my favourite out of the trilogy

    • @youtubesworstyoutuber7482
      @youtubesworstyoutuber7482 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      sorry about your wife leaving

    • @cyanidemonkey3957
      @cyanidemonkey3957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Same

    • @tiyaskun
      @tiyaskun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Same

    • @45a11
      @45a11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@tiyaskun it’s ok we tracked her down and now she’s nice and happy in my subterranean lair away from all the people

    • @BurgoYT
      @BurgoYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Same, this is the one I remember from when I was a kid so I may be biased, but I don’t care, it’s enjoyable to me

  • @itsrockitt
    @itsrockitt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1157

    I enjoyed part 3 🤷‍♂️ sure it wasn't the best but I liked it.

    • @andrejz8954
      @andrejz8954 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      I actually liked it more than 2 I think.

    • @koichi5518
      @koichi5518 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @Voition_Light You really like shitty movies huh

    • @abovethelaw4417
      @abovethelaw4417 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Spider-Man 3 is awesome

    • @elpeluca7780
      @elpeluca7780 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think it was the most interesting and the one with more potential, seeing how pathological narcissism took control of every character (even Peter), seeing that being a superhero has an ugly side. Flint Marko had the potential to be the most interesting character, but then Venom happened.
      Watch this:
      th-cam.com/video/UD0cNRsJugg/w-d-xo.html

    • @Spongebrain97
      @Spongebrain97 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If u judge it as a comedy and forget all about the previous movies then ita enjoyable. But that fact that the harry plotline is almost completely thrown away and Venom is inappropriately present makes it suck and not a worthy sequel to spiderman 2

  • @justinclark397
    @justinclark397 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The Vultress thing is weird to me because I remember reading an interview once where Raimi said that Felicia Hardy would’ve been the Black Cat in Spider-Man 4 and not an entirely new character. Maybe Raimi changed his mind on the Vultress thing or maybe that aspect just got mixed up by her working for him.

  • @gonzacollao
    @gonzacollao 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I still can't believe that Sony forced Marc Webb to commit the SAME mistake that made Spider-Man 3 fail.

  • @victorq281
    @victorq281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1633

    Sam Raimi didnt attack fans or insult them when they all complained about Spiderman 3. Great guy.

    • @darthjarjarthewise8051
      @darthjarjarthewise8051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      Because he knew that damn movie needs to be fixed

    • @JonStark117
      @JonStark117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Like Rian Johnson…? You’re totally right!😂

    • @SnyderBro2029
      @SnyderBro2029 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JonStark117 Wait when did he do that?

    • @SnyderBro2029
      @SnyderBro2029 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Give me context and a video and source instead of saying it btw

    • @SirJayington3rd
      @SirJayington3rd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Still love spiderman 3, it's far from perfect, was nothing to do with rami, studio interference! Emo Peter Parker is perfect, remember it's Peters idea of being cool, and he's not at all because Peters a nerdy kid from queen's

  • @Sawcon2004
    @Sawcon2004 5 ปีที่แล้ว +581

    I’m really upset I never got to see Bruce Campbell as Mysterio now

    • @popcornfarts761
      @popcornfarts761 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Idk if you're being sarcastic, but in all honesty that doesn't sound bad at all lol

    • @Godrocksandyousuck
      @Godrocksandyousuck 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      That would have been hilarious

    • @Welsh_Dragon756
      @Welsh_Dragon756 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I know right. It sounds like the perfect casting. I'm not sure though if because of his cameos in the previous movie he would have had to keep the helmet on and just use his voice or they could have gone with mysterio's original back story and made him a struggling actor which would explain the reason he's had so many different jobs around NY throughout the trilogy. That actually could have been a brilliant way to go with it

    • @swa1884
      @swa1884 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      God

    • @Sawcon2004
      @Sawcon2004 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dan Otto is never be sarcastic about Bruce Campbell, I genuinely feel cheated since I didn’t get to see that lol

  • @KillerTacos54
    @KillerTacos54 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve seen this video show up in my recommendations so many times but never got around to watching it for whatever reason. Now that I have, I’m really glad that you did, and I’m thankful to learn so much. It really is such a heartbreaking story 😭

  • @vhshorrormovies1978
    @vhshorrormovies1978 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Raimi didn't even want to involve venom. The studio forced him too, then got mad at him for not doing something he didn't even want to do well enough.

    • @Grigoris_
      @Grigoris_ ปีที่แล้ว

      to be fair, Sam Raimi tried to do something interesting with Eddie Brock in his film, as film adaptations go, I prefer Topher Grace instead of Tom Hardy

  • @batmite2783
    @batmite2783 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1304

    The original Spider-Man will always hold a special place in my heart.

    • @ALEKSR000
      @ALEKSR000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The Nicholas Hammond series?

    • @crazexd1614
      @crazexd1614 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@CJSloth17 baby really?

    • @dragonfly8341
      @dragonfly8341 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What with Nicholas Hammond? ;)

    • @deanthy3rdofengland96
      @deanthy3rdofengland96 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@CJSloth17 tf you mean he cried when Ben died, Harry died and that's about it.

    • @poptarts1455
      @poptarts1455 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      SamuraiSloth bruh ton Holland cries more than Tobey

  • @MrDrElectricon
    @MrDrElectricon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    If Peter just went home and painted the kitchen, none of this would have happened.

    • @ericj2007
      @ericj2007 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      MrDrElectricon too funny 😂

    • @reydanny6-792
      @reydanny6-792 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gold Raven Because, in the first Spider-Man Movie. Uncle Ben told Peter that they will be painting the kitchen when Peter comes back. But he was late, and Uncle Ben and Aunt May thought that Peter was acting’s weird/strange.

    • @reydanny6-792
      @reydanny6-792 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gold Raven But who knows it was just a reference from the Movie, he was just made a reference from the movie.

    • @jinenkariya
      @jinenkariya 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel it everyday

    • @theguywhowentthere3346
      @theguywhowentthere3346 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      If Peter got the landlord to FIX THIS DAMN DOOR, none of this would've ever happened.

  • @theedwardian
    @theedwardian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    The secret to characterizing Venom is that he's actually two characters. Venom is a duo of two self-interested personalities who on their own aren't that destructive but together they enable each other and the responsibilities are diffused between the two of them.

  • @Busher50
    @Busher50 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fun fact: Spider-man 3 is the only superhero film I've seen where cinema goers clapped at the end

  • @franciscorojas7731
    @franciscorojas7731 6 ปีที่แล้ว +549

    Makes me hate Sony and Amy Pascal even more and I didn’t think that was humanly possible.

    • @yaboi_rob69420
      @yaboi_rob69420 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      PakoTCB fuck Amy Pascal

    • @preyfan
      @preyfan 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      PakoTCB
      Forgive them. It will free you.
      I also recommend everyone this video : God Source does not Take Sides - if you're 'taking sides' you've been 'Sidelined'

    • @OttoVonGarfield
      @OttoVonGarfield 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      SHE is the one who complains about sam wasting money XD The irony is so rich, it might even make Sony money, but then again, maybe not.

  • @thoeer913
    @thoeer913 3 ปีที่แล้ว +392

    SONY: Give me rent
    Fans: You'll get your rent when give us damn Spiderman 4.

    • @alabamakid5063
      @alabamakid5063 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      YAS

    • @CJ-42070
      @CJ-42070 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BlueFoxDA well, where's the link?

  • @CThom18
    @CThom18 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Anyone here after No Way Home? Technically this could of occurred as we saw future Tobey Spidey who is now (married?) with MJ (and might be with kids)

  • @patrickkelley872
    @patrickkelley872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always liked sp3 tbh can’t believe we were this close to getting a 4th

  • @knatspray
    @knatspray 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1972

    Even after being forced to put a character he didn’t understand into his movie, he still managed to create a fluent and well woven story. I’m the kind of person to overlook a movies flaws if it’s worth doing so. Spider-Man 3 was a great movie! :D

    • @poppychalupa9390
      @poppychalupa9390 2 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      If they didn’t force him into putting venom and just allowed him to make Spider-Man 3 in his own vision. And giving him time to bring venom into Spider-Man 4, thus giving him time to study venom and understanding the character more the whole reboot would’ve probably never happened :/

    • @flashergoldpower15
      @flashergoldpower15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@poppychalupa9390 right if they hadn’t pushed in the book venom venom could’ve literally been added in like a fifth Spiderman movie when they were just be about Spiderman and venom .and it kind of sucks because if they only wasn’t so adamant about it they would’ve let Raimi did the vision of three and if three did well I’ll grab let’s make the Spiderman 4 and 5 know? Man it’s just it’s so strange coming back like six years later for me and hearing about that Sony is that you know.

    • @poppychalupa9390
      @poppychalupa9390 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@flashergoldpower15 yeah kinda sucks would’ve loved to see where Spider-Man 4 and 5 would’ve been. I love Andrew Garfield but those 2 movies were just not that great.

    • @flashergoldpower15
      @flashergoldpower15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@poppychalupa9390 I feel like for the amazing Spiderman series, then making a third one about spider verse and literally bringing back one from a dead year from now we just wouldn’t sit right with me. The fact is and I still stand by that movie should’ve just been about Spider-Man and electro. save goblin for three and build up the sinister six

    • @vinomsnake
      @vinomsnake 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly. Please see this:
      th-cam.com/video/bkRRMOcmgoc/w-d-xo.html
      Venom was meant to be the "drug" Peter used, and got addicted to, all the while hurting people. Eddie Brock becomes the careless reckless version of Peter who doesn't give a shit.

  • @MisterX867
    @MisterX867 6 ปีที่แล้ว +514

    In SM3 Sony should've just had that scene where Eddie Brock becomes Venom an after credits scene.

    • @joeyzapata6786
      @joeyzapata6786 6 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Yup, they tried to do way too much.

    • @StaticBlaster
      @StaticBlaster 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I agree. The venom transformation should have been a post-credits scene and venom should have been played by someone muscular like john cena. topher grace sucks ass.

    • @saneiplushie
      @saneiplushie 6 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      I kinda like the idea, in the end, when Eddie transfer into Venom, he roars in front of the screen and end it with a black screen, finally end credits rolls

    • @DownfallDarkness
      @DownfallDarkness 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      +ELECTROSHOCK!!!!! I agree, Topher Grace did suck ass. If they were just gonna use any readily available skinny actor at the time to play Venom, they should've used Mark McGrath, he would of done great & could've actually used the opportunity to jump from music to acting full-time, because he was already very well known & would've fit the role of an Eddie Brock very well.
      Speaking of WWE wrestlers and someone muscular like John Cena though, I think they should've gotten Test (R.I.P) to play Venom. Dude was like 6'7 and fucking jacked in 2006. The guy even had some of those resemblances of Marvel's Eddie Brock from the comic books/cartoons. Would of made for a great Venom.

    • @georgecervantes5778
      @georgecervantes5778 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe ....or True or Aye

  • @sumitmalla1039
    @sumitmalla1039 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I still remember watching Spider-Man 3, I waiting 2 hours outside a cd shop just to get a hand on the movie, and till this day I still believe this was an amazing movie.

  • @Pwn3dbyth3n00b
    @Pwn3dbyth3n00b 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Meanwhile No Way Home has 6 Villians. One of which stays in Mexico the entire movie

  • @TigerGoblin
    @TigerGoblin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +882

    In some alternate universe, raimi got to do his movies as he wished and the series continued well into the 2010s. Finally, Toby's Spidey would join the cast of civil war, having the greatest cinematic crossover ever and landing the film above 2 billion $

    • @checksoverstripes2498
      @checksoverstripes2498 6 ปีที่แล้ว +148

      Yaniv Avizrats this would've been epic as fuck

    •  6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Yaniv Avizrats eh, if you rewatch the movies without nostalgia clogging your eyes, they're a little dated. Tobey's Spider-Man was actually pretty selfish and only helped when he was forced to because it directly affected him. Basically, he was a reactive character instead of a proactive character like Tom is.

    • @tobesxd
      @tobesxd 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That would not get that above two million, nor would it help much at all. Most fans are crossovers.

    • @renegaderaida526
      @renegaderaida526 6 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      Bob Pickleson You're a little dated

    • @iloveketchup20
      @iloveketchup20 6 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      bob pickleson
      The human spider chad will always be better than virgin spider-boy

  • @mr.b2960
    @mr.b2960 5 ปีที่แล้ว +524

    Don’t understand the hate of 3. I loved it as much as all the others. Still would like to see 4 with Toby.

    • @cjhepburn7406
      @cjhepburn7406 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I think it should still happen. Didn't they have two Bonds out @ the same time. They should just call it Rami's Spider-Man 4. Kristen's gotta be involved tho.

    • @devilshooter126m8
      @devilshooter126m8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      if venom wasn't shoved in there it would have been pretty good.

    • @thekiller7994
      @thekiller7994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Many people hated Spiderman because of Venom, cgi, and that god awful emo dance scene

    • @ultrabigfella
      @ultrabigfella 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cjhepburn7406 I love James Bond, but no one has cared about him in a long time. With the MCU having a Spider-Man and Sony's Venom, this movie, if it even would be made, would have to be made after The Venom Trilogy (it'll probably be a trilogy, with Carnage being the villian of 2 and all the colored symbiotes being the villian of 3) and after Phase 5 of the MCU which will probably be the last. By them, Tobey will be to old to play him. It won't happen.

    • @cjhepburn7406
      @cjhepburn7406 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ultrabigfella I hate Venom.

  • @perseusvlasov367
    @perseusvlasov367 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Still a lot better than many present day hero movies.

  • @LILSLB
    @LILSLB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We should be very grateful that we got 3 spidermans, we finally got to see all three of them in one Movie

  • @nixonsmith7379
    @nixonsmith7379 5 ปีที่แล้ว +315

    Toby maguire has the best reflexes on portraiting spider man
    I want spiderman 4!!!!!

    • @brandonwood3306
      @brandonwood3306 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      NiXoN Smith I think your right and wrong at the same time he was by far the best peter Parker but his Spider-Man wasn’t 100%

    • @d4_yep37
      @d4_yep37 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Brandon Wood true but Sam raimi really wanted to make this the best Spider-Man movie ever which implies he didn’t give it his 110% on the previous movies. He probably would have put a lot more effort into this film in terms of writing and getting Spider-Man right. Plus, the quips Spider-Man made in Spider-Man 3 were pretty good.

    • @Beanie-Sandals
      @Beanie-Sandals 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      *portraying

  • @jamesknight5860
    @jamesknight5860 4 ปีที่แล้ว +478

    I agree on Sony should have stayed back and let Sam Raimey did his thing.
    Come Back Tobey MacGuire!!!!

    • @leeeverett8690
      @leeeverett8690 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      *maguire*

    • @C7mondo
      @C7mondo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed

    • @Caincooba
      @Caincooba 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don't worry he's back on boss baby

    • @Arnoldthegoat454
      @Arnoldthegoat454 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aidan Bramlett Allen *its a joke*

    • @DarkShadic9632
      @DarkShadic9632 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well, Sam’s directing Doctor Strange 2 now, which is most likely about the multiverse, so Tobey could be brought to the MCU

  • @isaiah7640
    @isaiah7640 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Restore the raimiverse

  • @Yoshiroo019
    @Yoshiroo019 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    What if after spiderman no way home, if both tobey and andrew are in it, then they can make a series for both of them following the aftermath of no way home, giving them a proper ending to their story

  • @yeviellcorrea5912
    @yeviellcorrea5912 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1915

    Spiderman 3 was my childhood. I don't care what people think, I loved that movie. Fight me
    Edit: I wrote this when I was still in high school and now that I'm in college I still havent changed my mind
    Also, Thank you all for the likes lmao

  • @-c-s-j-2504
    @-c-s-j-2504 6 ปีที่แล้ว +336

    I wished I could have seen Spider-Man 4

    • @danleevlogs03
      @danleevlogs03 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Chris Shootah Me Too

    • @bra5081
      @bra5081 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      it could be worse. You could have been a fan of the Amazing Spiderman series and waiting for story about the revelations about his father to get concluded :p

    • @johnharbinger4637
      @johnharbinger4637 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you did! most of the Vulture ideas were in Homecoming

    • @-c-s-j-2504
      @-c-s-j-2504 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂 lol

    • @palmtoptiger1405
      @palmtoptiger1405 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tobey makes Spiderman work the others not so much but I would pay to watch it even buy the Movie after I watch it

  • @ka850411
    @ka850411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love Sandman's story, he's one of the villain that has the most depth even till this day!

  • @JohnnyNagaSins
    @JohnnyNagaSins 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bully Maguire: You'll have Spiderman 4 till you fix this damn door!!!

  • @Cooper-gr2uk
    @Cooper-gr2uk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1240

    Spider-Man 3 isn't that bad.
    Change my mind.

    • @z3bb374
      @z3bb374 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Big black men in suit

    • @jackhoward10
      @jackhoward10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      Don't get me wrong I enjoy the movie, but it's definitely the weakest of the trilogy

    • @ericrowe1412
      @ericrowe1412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      I am surprised people considered it bad.

    • @Ballerz24
      @Ballerz24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      I actually liked it as a kid and I can sit down and rewatch it at my age now and still like it

    • @corsoedisspysik2781
      @corsoedisspysik2781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Emo Parker

  • @Cowabungas
    @Cowabungas 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2274

    I bet the Spider-Man 4 script is hidden in Area 51. Who's in?

    • @drewthewalker8679
      @drewthewalker8679 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I think so too

    • @BoyonMoon-bs9ms
      @BoyonMoon-bs9ms 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I need to eat Mister Aziz's pizza before we go to Area 51, it makes me stronger bro you should take some too!

    • @BoyonMoon-bs9ms
      @BoyonMoon-bs9ms 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Mr.Ditkovich Are you the real one? From Twitter?

    • @pokerface4
      @pokerface4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Raimi fans Assemble

    • @FoxNationTrapMusic
      @FoxNationTrapMusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BoyonMoon-bs9ms mr

  • @pangolothian
    @pangolothian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'd pref3r a different storyline than the c lists plus Vulture, but I'll take anything if it means we eventually still see a Spiderman 4 by Raimi with Toby.

  • @pterodactylman136
    @pterodactylman136 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sam Riami's spiderman fight scene choreography was the coolest hands down. I would have loved to see his vulture fights

  • @swiftbl4de336
    @swiftbl4de336 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1210

    Sony: don't waste our money. Then they make amazing Spider-Man

    • @ofc_b4nk138
      @ofc_b4nk138 5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      SWIFT BL4DE 😂😂 fuck Sony

    • @terolehikoinen6497
      @terolehikoinen6497 5 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      The Amazing Spider-Man was a joke. And the second one? Let's not even go there.

    • @seanmeredith7573
      @seanmeredith7573 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@terolehikoinen6497 that's funny, because people would argue that spider-man 3 was by far the worst. That both the amazing spider-mans did 100% better than spider-man 3. Honestly, the amazing spider-mans weren't terrible but they were no where near good either. The recent reboot might be going somewhere, where we finally get a personality that is somewhat similar to the comics. Even tho toby McGuire didn't have the comic book personality, he still did an amazing job being spider-man.

    • @terolehikoinen6497
      @terolehikoinen6497 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Yea I just read about it, whereas I think Spider-Man 3 was great. I don't understand why 3 villains were too much, of course it was for Spidey but Harry swallowed his pride to help his friend and I thought it ended well(not for Harry). I haven't read the comics much so there might be a reason people don't like them but all the Batmans ain't the same either and I dunno why should it be automatically reason for hate. I just watch them as movies of my favourite superheros and Raimi's movies we're by far better IMO. I didn't like Garfield - not sure if it was he's fault - and I definitely didn't like the CGI in second. Somehow for me it looked like they didn't have enough money for the film. Tom Holland seems a good Spider-Man but Tobey just somehow nailed the "friendly neighborhood Spider-Man" attitude so well(not with the symbiote of course). But it's just my opinion. :)

    • @seanmeredith7573
      @seanmeredith7573 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@terolehikoinen6497 agreed

  • @RK-ln6kg
    @RK-ln6kg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2551

    Toby Maguire was the first to make marvel comics popular on-screen. He will always be the best spider man ever.

    • @ryanleach3153
      @ryanleach3153 5 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      You mean Wesley Snipes

    • @michaelwolfe9496
      @michaelwolfe9496 5 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      @@ryanleach3153 Blade is awesome, but all three films together only made about half the money the first Spiderman made. Plus did the mainstream audience back then even know Blade was based on a comic book?

    • @popcornfarts761
      @popcornfarts761 5 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Blade was definitely the first marvel movie to blow up. Whether the mainstream audience knew it was Marvel or not is irrelevant. X-Men came out before Spider-Man as well. Spider-Man may have made more money, but definitely wasn't the first

    • @nitishsaxena1372
      @nitishsaxena1372 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He would always be my Spider-man!

    • @goldenchase3848
      @goldenchase3848 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      He was not the first. X men (maybe even Blade) was first. The movie helped but it surely wasn't first. If you like the movie then great! *But don't act like its the only reason why all these other Marvel movies exist now*

  • @Alex_Penjamin
    @Alex_Penjamin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the Flamingosis in the background 👌👌👌

  • @mystery900jk9
    @mystery900jk9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tobey was a savage in Spider-Man 3, brought his side piece to the restaurant while MJ was working.

  • @charlesgorman4919
    @charlesgorman4919 6 ปีที่แล้ว +543

    While i love Raimi's honesty, Sony is the one to blame.

    • @alexfurnas1263
      @alexfurnas1263 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I think I can see where Raimi's coming from there, it genuinely doesn't seem to come across as glossing over the studio interference (especially since everybody knows about it anyway). He just narrows his perspective to what was under his control. The director couldn't stop Sony/Arad from inserting Venom into the movie, but he then has control over how he handles that insertion. It's a tall order of course, but a filmmaker like Raimi who clearly holds himself to a very high standard will absorb the blame for failing to spin the situation into gold. Class act, that guy

    • @juanfranciscocosta5387
      @juanfranciscocosta5387 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You cannot spell SONY without Y. Whyyyy, goddammit

  • @md03250
    @md03250 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1435

    Just rewatched Spider-Man 3. It honestly isn’t even that bad.

    • @gamerman4985
      @gamerman4985 5 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      The Absolutely Guy it’s alright not horrible don’t know why it has so much hate

    • @hazardmilk7259
      @hazardmilk7259 5 ปีที่แล้ว +121

      same i like it better than homecoming

    • @cellblocknine5385
      @cellblocknine5385 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It was meh.

    • @maxmiller9422
      @maxmiller9422 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Ikr. Its pretty good

    • @maxmiller9422
      @maxmiller9422 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Homecoming doesnt have enough action.

  • @JDkn
    @JDkn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Bully maguire was the best thing to happen to movies, without venom we wouldn’t get the bully.

  • @Nerpson
    @Nerpson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sony: Let's reboot the franchise
    Raimi: Oh you can't do this to me... YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I SACRIFICED??

  • @3myr08
    @3myr08 5 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Spider-Man 3 didn’t RUIN the Raimi trilogy, it just made it darker. And sure it was the worst out of the three but still it ain’t that bad

    • @IROCK80551
      @IROCK80551 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      For me. What killed that movie was like the ending scenes where Sandman and venom joined together and kidnapped marry jane. On top of the news castings that they had in the movie. It made it super corny for me.

    • @kingzingo1784
      @kingzingo1784 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I SAID!!! I didn't like it as much as the other two but it wasn't necessarily BAD.

  • @victorrippe3088
    @victorrippe3088 5 ปีที่แล้ว +698

    I think Spider-Man 3 was amazing. I don’t get why ppl don’t like it

    • @elpeluca7780
      @elpeluca7780 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Watch this, really interesting take on the trilogy:
      th-cam.com/video/UD0cNRsJugg/w-d-xo.html

    • @jadejappy3505
      @jadejappy3505 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Dont trust critics

    • @wolverineiscool7161
      @wolverineiscool7161 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      you're kidding right...they made it so bad, emo dancing peter...poor choice of villains, sandman was never gonna work...way too comical for a movie that's already lighthearted, disservice to venom...they handled it so poorly and also chose the worst actor for playing the venom role. The plot sucked...they made peter so whiney and needy

    • @raymondmadrid
      @raymondmadrid 5 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@wolverineiscool7161 emo dancing peter was the best

    • @caim95able
      @caim95able 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@raymondmadrid Exactly, it was meant to sound hilarious. I am amazed that people can't understand that it wasn't meant to be taken seriously

  • @gavinvictoria6157
    @gavinvictoria6157 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the music !!!

  • @okccitizen4400
    @okccitizen4400 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These were awesome and need more films of this Spider-Man universe

  • @kev1589
    @kev1589 5 ปีที่แล้ว +300

    It's Sony's fault not Sam Raimi

    • @sgthabluedevil3269
      @sgthabluedevil3269 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Its da fans fault

    • @Outwardpd
      @Outwardpd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lets be real, it is kind of both. Sony is obviously going to want a Venom movie, Raimi is the one that overloaded everything by overestimating what he could accomplish. If Raimi had just taken the L and produced a Venom only movie it probably would've been amazing even if he was a little bit lacking on Venom knowledge.

  • @AwesomeAj44
    @AwesomeAj44 5 ปีที่แล้ว +208

    It’s so hard for me to like the new Spider-Man when my whole childhood was Sam Raimi’s trilogy. I don’t think Tom Holland is a bad choice for the character and I don’t think his movie was bad but I just am very sad not seeing Tobey in the role anymore. Wish I could have seen the 4th movie go out with a bang 😔

    • @rainyrei707
      @rainyrei707 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same

    • @mrigaming3838
      @mrigaming3838 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same @That One Dude im 10 and ive been only watching sam raimi since I was 3 literaly

    • @dacarly1330
      @dacarly1330 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That One Dude I wish homecoming had a good soundtrack though

    • @dacarly1330
      @dacarly1330 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it's me Sans Undertale I like Nickel back😂I grew up on them

    • @parlayphresh3062
      @parlayphresh3062 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Toby old as shit now dude

  • @peshiii97
    @peshiii97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So basically it failed because Sony won't let Raimi do his job, to "direct" the movie. Well played Sony.

  • @AzorAhaiReborn
    @AzorAhaiReborn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i still remember a friend at school sayin that spider man 4 would happen and the villain was carnage

  • @mori1bund
    @mori1bund 5 ปีที่แล้ว +347

    Sony's Amy Pascal said "Thank you for not wasting the studio's money" to the guy who gave them 3 cash cows,
    then went on to waste a lot of the studio's money. ^^
    When arrogance and stupidity go hand in hand, you know you are at Sony... :-)

    • @dtxspeaks268
      @dtxspeaks268 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Add 4 since you the games based off the three films and Friend or Foe that had elements of the Raimi trilogy in it.

    • @LunarEdge7
      @LunarEdge7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Glad it's not just me who got irked by this. Well I got pissed as well. Fuck you Sony.

    • @Handle...This.
      @Handle...This. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Sony should just stick to games and electronics and that Amy Pascal bitch needs to go eat a 🥒

    • @ahnrho
      @ahnrho 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Put off by that as well.

    • @ahliang
      @ahliang 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kevin feige has his fair share of that Amy poison too.

  • @dilltaskermusic1407
    @dilltaskermusic1407 6 ปีที่แล้ว +414

    Amy Pascal at 8:14 - "Thank you for not wasting the studio's money... We're planning to do that with the Ghostbusters reboot."

    • @_chemicalbeat_
      @_chemicalbeat_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Broken Drummer 😂😂😂

    • @mechajay3358
      @mechajay3358 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Broken Drummer She obviously knows crap.

    • @KRALTAIR47
      @KRALTAIR47 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      So dumb

    • @frankmillerboi6928
      @frankmillerboi6928 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Fuck amy !

    • @swag858
      @swag858 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Broken Drummer She's a stupid bitch.

  • @Dark80s71
    @Dark80s71 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this video aged like fine wine. You're bang on when you said these were important films