Playing as Hades and all pasts in Hades 2 Secret
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Hearing how polite Hades was really speaks to how terrified he is of his dad. Seeing his abuser in his home, where he should be safe, where his family should be safe, has to be horrifying.
the abuser you saw die, most importantly.
@@thebaseandtriflingcreature174one you helped kill, no less!
Not just abuser also technically killer as he did try killing him and his siblings by eating them when they were born
@@dudesayshi2191 Honestly as weird as it is to say, it’s more fucked up that it WASN’T an attempted murder.
Kronos was under no belief that it would kill them, he knew they were immortal, and wanted them *gone.*
I always thought Kronus and Chronos were different entities but yeah, seeing your abuser in your home hurts on a core level
"It turns out spite is a powerful motivator..........blood sacrifices also helped" That line goes hard ngl.
Zagreus spilled titan blood in Tartarus repeatedly. where chronos happened to be, and apparently also got blood sacrifices. It had to be Zagreus! He accidentally revived Chronos
@undeadinside3571 Probably shouldn't have upgraded all those weapons... But then again they were fun to use
@@undeadinside3571 In Zag's defense, He didn't know he existed
@@scarlightemperor3410 he probably knew. Hades himself thought Chronos was gone for good, so Zagreus might've assumed the same
@@undeadinside3571What if that's why he isn't in Hades 2? What if Chronos had been locked so that he can use the blood to heal and wake up the other titans?
Oh so the narrator IS Homer (author of the illiad & Odessy not the simpson) that was a pretty popular fan theory & they just have Melinoë name drop him like that? Figured they would have kept the mystery for a bit longer but ok, it is a funny gag still
It was rather strongly hinted at with the poet bust in Hades 1 - nice to see it confirmed
need a mod that replaces him with Homer Simpson
The fact that Melinoe can call him out is hilarious to me
That made me smile
I can't get over she broke through the fourth wall to tell him to be quiet
The idea of playing as Hades for the cutscene was so foreign to me that I sat for a solid minute after Hecate left, thinking that the game had glitched out.
Apparently your case is so common that the developers have added a cue now.
@@Jaymaxair Oh they did? nice, it looks like it happened to everyone, me included
@@rinzler1767 It is funny because i got the scene after they added the cue but got distracted and didn't even notice what the cue was, still realize i could control Hades inmediately though.
Chronos even manages to bring down nyx the same goddess that Zeus is afraid of 😨
Its Zeus father ofc he can bring down nyx
@@parasitone0814Well, she is older than even Gaia, so still a bit surprising
Chronos didn't need to fight her, how could night come if the day is never ending? Chronos simply froze night it self, meaning she can never come, if he unfroze her, he most likely get his ass handed to him.
@@Fourtytwo4242 a surprise attack in the most unpredictable times, Nyx fell last probably because she's still outside of Hades room which allowed Hades to sent Melinoe away with Hecate. But the confusing part is how Nyx doesn't know that Chronos had escaped from Tartarus?
I think because it was the price of resurrecting zagreus in event pregame. Nyx told about in first game she had to pay price to fates and using a lot power for saving zagreus. She has never told as what was the price...
Hecate playing Hide and Seek with baby Mel is adorable! I thought at first she was going to be the Hades of the game, aka the strict no nonsense abusive parent, but this completely swayed my opinion, I love her!
chronos looks like a buissness man trying to sell me relestate in egypt
He is probably just as evil.
@@berkhero3006nonono nothing is more evil then THAT
Linkara would have field day with that
Timepiece salesman
Seeing how Hades interacted with Chronos makes me think Zag inherited his good-nature from him more than what the two is willing to admit.
seeing how chronos says that Hades now has a beard and more muslces, it makes me think that Hades looked alot like zagreus when he was younger.
Smol Melinoe got me having baby fever and I don't even have a womb.
Fostering or adopting a puppy or kitten will work.
The one thing doesn't make sense is Chronos managing to capture Nyx. She is teh oldest strongest being in that room. Though even gods can be taken by suprise I suppose
Night relies on Time I suppose, given Time is what Chronos is, the Night herself needs him to exist otherwise only day would exist, I dunno, that's how I imagine it goes?
The very story of Chronos (well, Cronos, originally) proves that principle doesn't work. The opposite happens time and time again. Titans were laid low by the gods, who were their descendants (although they were helped by Gaia). Gods, like Ares and Aphrodite, can be hurt by mortals - like Diomedes, who wounded both in the Trojan War (although he was helped by Athena). A demi-god like Achilles was killed by Paris, a mortal (although helped by Apollo). Age and power don't make any being invincible, in Greek mythology. But we can notice that in all these cases, there was some external divine help... so the main question is: who is helping Chronos ?
@@bokarndiaye323The only possible primordial I can see assisting Chronos is Tartarus itself.
Chaos has been neutral in all things, including creation itself and I assume only help’s because it’s a bit of amusement, Nyx is captured. While Gaia helped Chronos take down Uranus, she did later help Zeus and the others take down Chronos so I doubt she would help later. Uranus got castrated by Chronos so no love there, and Eris is very connected to Nyx, along with Eros being connected to Aphrodite and thus the other Olympians.
Plus that’s where his shred body was sent to, so that’s my plausible hypothesis, plus it’d be interesting to see Tartarus the God appear for once, rather than just the location.
@@bokarndiaye323 The gods were outright said to be even stronger than the titans hence why they lost, and were also helped by the cyclops who forged their weapons (Zeus's lightning bolt, Hades' helmet of invisibility and Poseidon's trident), and the 100 arms giants who threw basically entire mountains at them by virtue of being able to throw a hundred rocks at once. And here, well Hades outright said he never expected to see his father again, so he had the element of surprise which always help, and yeah he might have some help, and also tries to get help from the Fates themselves, but who knows how well that will fare. Probably not well for him. If he gets help, it would be interesting to see it coming from other titans, like Atlas or Hyperion, if you can get help from Sysiphus in the first game he probably could get Atlas's help in the second. We already saw Selene, so who knows.
@@Karomix3 Other Titans could be interesting, yeah - although I do still think that the presence of Arachne (mortal, hubris, punished), Hercules (mortal, hubris, punished), Icarus (mortal, hubris, punished), plus the several other witches (like Medea, who is mortal), can paint an interesting theme of mortals' ability to best gods. My personal theory: we know from Hades 1 that Zagreus died at birth - the flames of his feet died out, which drove Persephone to flee to the surface. My guess is that *this didn't happen to Melinoe.* We've never seen her die like her brother, and be carried to the Styx: only return to shadow. And she thrives on the surface, when Zagreus felt drained. My theory ? She's the first living goddess of the Underworld.
Melinoe: Homer stop teasing me and help me find Hecate
Announcer: D'OH!
Hades's portrait larger than usual
you know what else is larger
MY MOM
3:30 @@toastee5421
comedically large hades
Chronos said blood sacrifices also helped revive him? And he was in tartarus... Was the blood Zagreus spilled directly related to reviving chronos?! Did Zagreus revive chronos by winning too much in the 1st game?!
well blood sacrifices so i assume it meant the worshippers we found in the game sacrificing themself
@@jvdjevovdhe7613 that could be it too, but i just thought titan blood would be much more potent, or at least speed it up
So hypnos has been asleep for years considering he was there when melinoë was still a child
just another great way to show that despite how media perceives hades, he really is a good guy
and works with olympus. he's with olympus, not against them like movies, books and shows say.
the actual villains in greek mythology are the titans
The villains in Greek mythology are *ALL NON-HUMANS*
The gods are evil shit heels that ruin lives for fun. Hades is one of the least awful of them though, that is for sure.
He is not with olympus but he isn’t agaisnt them either he is neutral at most
Well the gods in Greek myth also represent what humans( at the time) shouldn't be like and/act like. With the gods having more human traits
Nah every god sucks in one way or another. It just so happens that some versions portray Hades as not being as big of a jerk as the others, and it just so happens that the Titans are even worse. The gods only look good by comparison, but Zeus for example was straight up a r*pist who punished his own victims for not acting the way he wanted them to. The thing with Hades is that some media portrays him as evil because he's the god of the underworld, which some people associate with Satan.
Disney really had to go and make Hades a villain. He had nothing to even do with the struggles the real Heracles went through. That was entirely Hera and Zeus. Like, she even made him kill his wife and children! Keep my boy Hades out of this Disney.
It’s very interesting that Chronos looks so angelic. In the non-canonical book of Enoch, there were the Watchers. They fallen angels that fathered the nephalim and were imprisoned just like the Titans in Greek Myth. I wonder if the makers of the game wanted to make a reference or connection. Let’s see what other games they have in mind in the future. 😊
Can't wait for them to make a roguelike about _"the bible"_
@@jackson3475it takes place during the period of time between the crucifixion and the resurrection, where Jesus has to go down to hell, and save souls, only this time, Jesus comes armed with a sword!
I get more ancient Egyptian vibes from him. Which feels appropriate since he historically had a presence in ancient Egypt.
@@vincentgeiszler3749 wow. Really? Could you tell me more about that? How was Chronos in Egypt?
@@viridianacortes9642 Ancient Greece had a presence in egypt, and some of it's culture moved to greece
tiny melinoë is the cutest thing ever
The fact that Chronos has to assure people he hasn't vored anyone.
yet
The past scenes make the bath scene with Odysseus weird af
They zeus look gay too.
@@harshvardhanjha4611 You must be new to Greek Mythology.
Don't statter him then😂@@joshrobins130
Not really, if you hook up with a god/immortal, they are ALWAYS old enough to watch you grow up. That just happened to be the literal case here lol.
it was normal back then to bathe in front of everyone lol.
I guess even Hades will make the casual mistake of mixing Chronos and Kronos up with each other
Well, if this Chronos was the primordial god, little could have been done.
I think it's not a mistake so much as an intentional fusion in this case, besides even in the classical era that confusion happened so its hardly that big a deal.
Even back then, things got mixed up. One or more gods could be highly regarded in one greek city, and be obscure or downright unknown in another, a single god could have lots of nicknames, two or more gods be the same in one tradition and not in another, it's a mess. I'd say it's much simpler and better for the story they're telling for it to be this way.
This feels more like an intentional fusion rather than a mix up
The narrator is Homer? *oh wow*
*oh wow*
Quite a step up from working for mr. Burns
It wss quite a common assumption in the fandom, now it's been confirmed
It appears Homer learned the art of the Stanley Parable
Hypnos rockin that hair and look!
Hades's loud footsteps in this scene always amused me. THUMP THUMP
Ok if Homer is the narrator now I MIGHT play the game
God the way Chronos's voice lowers when he says "I have not Eaten them or anything"
HYPNOS GOT A NEW LOOK OH YEAH!
hypno's: "honk shoo honk shoo"
the fans: "YEAAAHHHHH HYPNOSSSSS 🗣️🗣️🗣️"
I love baby Melinoe, what about baby Zagreus?
man can't get over how kid Mel is so DAMN cute
Chronos design, voice, omg he is just perfect
Hecate is so cute with mel
Good god the chronos character art is so sick.
I think any game depicted Chronos doesn't exactly hit the spot tbh.
In GoW he was a colossal brute and here just a scrawny creep. He doen't really emit the mystic timelessness as Chaos did in first game.
Not gonna lie hades kinda looks or has the frame of father baulder from bayonetta
im sorry .... Hypnos!!?
Funny cause hades would be stronger then his father so to look weak against his father is interesting. And Nyx would body him since even zeus is afraid of her.
Well, it did take all 3 brothers to take down their father, so it’d make sense hades by himself would he weaker than Chronos
@@ROYaaaal789 actually 7 olympus vs. the titans, and it was a long battle, but in the end, the new gods defeated the Titans and zeus cut cronos up and after all that the new games became more powerful then the titan so hades could easily defeated his father alone. But the fact Nyx the primordial goddess who Zeus was afraid of lost to cronos is a shocker.
Well Chronos did hold Hades’ own wife, son and his “employees” hostage, and Hades can be considered one of the more humane gods of Greek mythology.
@@caesarseizure1625 interesting. Of course, they'd neft mythology characters for the plot of the story. In the myth, Hades would beat his father, but in the game, he fears him. Heck, even god of war got it right.
@@Leviathan1000Yeah, because you are thinking about Kronos, Titan of the Harvest.
Hypergiant fused Chronos, a Primordial Concept(Time Itself), with Kronos, Titan and father of the Olympians.
Technically speaking, both Nyx and Hemera, the concepts of Night and Day, are subjected to Time. Since Kronos was turned from merely a Titan to a Primordial Concept, it makes sense he was able to overpower Nyx
Wait wait wait, how is nyx in that situation? I am not well aware of what is going on with hades nor with the mythology itself but can someone explain to me how that happnes. From what I know Choros while powerfull can't compare to Nyx or even Gaia. Btw why does Chronos looks like an egpyt god minus the animal head, what is going on?!
Cronos has the power of plot. He would've gotten his ass handed to him so i guess he had to freeze her
my assumption was he paused time around her first and foremost, hence why she's in a different room. surprise time stop can be very effective on even the strongest beings. though how she is remain frozen after a while is another matter... maybe he's suspended her in a prison of eternal day?
as for his egyptian look, sands of time and all that y'know? plus the egyptian mythology is older than the greek, so could be referencing how he dressed like them cause that was "the hip thing with the kids" at the time.
Time is still a more powerful force than night. Without time, the cycle of day and night might as well not exist
Because Hypergiant decided to fuse the Primordial Chronos, time itself, and Cronus/Cronos/Kronos the Titan of the Harvest. Whose only claim to time where the agricultural seasons
Since Hypergiant gave him this boost, it makes sense he could overpower Nyx. After all even the Night and Day (Nyx and Hemera) are subject to time itself
@@godsplayingfieldi definitely got the feeling that he was supposed to look more egyptian just because it predates the olympians, just like he does
Bruh, the princess broke the fourth wall.
Weren't Kronos and Chronos two separate beings?
Yeah but people can make mistakes and stuff
the game hasnt been always 100% accurate and there has been many confusing discrepancies. but worrying about discrepancies and conflicting sources can only take you so far. might as well fuse the two and craft a new story from the source material without changing the major understanding of it too much. though your mileage may vary.
When did you get the Hades cutscene ?! I only had the « Tiny Melinoe » one 😭
When she becomes playable in smite I'm playing her
Who is that? Melinoe? Nyx? Or Hecate in Smite 2?
Is Chronos trying to do what Kratos did in God of War 2?
I wonder why Melinoe lost her left hand?
Wait, what’s the timeframe between the games?
Melinoe's young face really doesn't match the body
Hades was gods-awful to his son and he gets forgiven and now acts like he loves his family. I don’t get it
It bothers me so damn much that in Chronos=Kronos in this game.
I imagine the actual Chronos is like "the fuck I do?" After Chaos and everyone is mad at him after Kronos did all his bs
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I would like to imagine Hades summoning his weapon as he talks to Chronos.
I’m surprised Hades treats his Father aka the being who ate him and his siblings, with such respect.
I don't think it's respect. More like fear.
You know, part of me wonders what chaos is doing in all of this, since he's alive and all, couldn't he stop his own great grandson?
Chaos is the supreme creator. No matter who wins in this petty squabbles, his creations will ultimately continue to exist.
@@NP3GAyeah, but he’s still friends with Nyx and Zag
@@SoggySub Nyx is their daughter. And Zag (Although I'm sure chaos finds him amusing) is basically another small god, one of many chaos probably met over time.
@@NP3GA well, he’s close with Nyx then, and he did like Zag, even if it was more of a small interest.
Chaos cannot exert much influence in the universe, or they would damage reality itself just by manifesting
"I havent *eaten* them or anything" is the most messed up line in the world