Spot on with the payload- Glad you emphasized it. I'm probably gonna by the Mojave anyway but I hope prospective buyers understand the payload limitations before buying!
Good clip! I bought the Mojave thinkin' if I ever need to get away from LEOs, I could hit the trail & say "good bye!" & you brilliantly illustrated that fact.
I love this! I have a Mojave and this was one of the first things I did! The ride quality is SO impressive! We had a JKU before and would have died doing the same things! I was laughing and having a blast and my wife was screaming, DONT YOU BREAK MY NEW JEEP!!! Haha!
I LOVE my Gladiator Mojave! Had some real fun up in Utah recently with it. Awesome vehicle. It's the BEST vehicle I've ever driven in snow by far. Of course it's not a "Work truck". It's a do all Jeep truck.
I appreciate what you guys test regarding the payload ratings, but I guarantee that 99% of the general public will be overloading these trucks with a cab full of people and a trailer in tow or atv in the bed. Keep up the great content
We know it - you know it. But, we borrow these trucks from the manufacturers so we make it a rule to respect the stated limits. It's the right thing to do.
@@TruckKing Appreciate the hard work and videos! This last comment has me raising an eyebrow...payload on your specific gladiator is under 1200 lbs. With 1k lbs in the bed, doesn’t that leave less than 200 pounds for driver and passenger? Not much left for passengers!
@@bp8171 You are correct. Payload capacity includes what's in the truck bed and cab including people and gear. What you are describing would very likely be over payload capacity unless the driver and passenger weighed 200 points combined and had no gear. It's not a truck to be used to carry a lot of weight regardless of where it's located.
Love the video, Stephen. The Mojave package is the best all-around performer. You proved it in your video. Too bad you can't get the package in the JLU.
If you wanted to put down the cash getting equivalent suspension on a jlu can be done. Only negative is that if you want to lift a Mojave options are a bit limited without having to replace the shocks you payed thousands extra to get. A bit disappointing not getting the front locker but not a huge deal.
Nice review. The best way to measure suspension sag is to measure from the bottom edge of the rim to the fender lip. Otherwise tire compression/ground compression is skewing your measurement.
I really enjoyed the high speed footage. It looks like the suspension is indeed tuned nicely. If I tried that in my base Sierra, it would not go well at all. LoL.
THANK YOU for reviewing a manual transmission, and towing with it! My channel has a lot of videos with my JK in them, and some towing. I have the 6spd manual and love it. It did sound like that new 6spd had to dig a little deep for the torque, which is surprising, because I thought FCA made 1st gear taller in the JL than it is in the JK.
I just traded my Rubicon JT in for a Mojave and i love it... I dont crawl , i like a little speed on trails.. This dawgone Mojave knocked it outa the park as far as performance on the trails go at speeds!!
After driving the Rubicon and the Mojave, can the Mojave do slow trails and be fine? Maybe a dumb question, so maybe I should reword it, how capable is the Mojave off road without a front locker? I'm in Georgia and would love to take a Gladiator out to Colorado one day to run some passes but nothing super extreme. It would also be a daily driver around the Atlanta area and head to Florida beaches. Any recommendations would be appreciated, Rubicon or Mojave. Thank you, and love the work you do.
Thanks for the video, I have been driving a 2000 Jeep Wrangler since 2001 and have been leaning towards the Gladiator Mojave over the Rubicon due to the suspension and the fact that the majority of my driving will be on road. I also do enjoy off road driving but I cant spend that kind of money and a vehicle and then grind it over rocks.
Love your reviews Stephen. You talked me into a 4Runner a few years back when you took a TRD Pro through the ice. I ended up getting an Off Road Premium. Great Overland vehicle but quite underpowered. Traded that and got a 2015 Ram 2500 6.7 Cummins. I am quite happy with that. Keep up the good work!!
Steve, what was the on pavement ride like? The desert runners seem to be more compliant so I would think that the on road performance would be better than the standard Jeep suspension.
Even the 5.7 would be a great option and leave the set up as is with minor changes for the weight. The last thing we need is a another V8 option coming in at 70k+.
What about squeezing more power out of that V6 if you were to try to keep the weight to a minimum? Are turbochargers a recipe for disaster on the Pentastar?
I got a 2021 Mojave great ride. However the ride changed to a little nose heavy when I put a winch and after market bumper on it. Still figuring out how to fix ride without taking of winch and bumper
Figure out what amount of height you lost in the front. Then get closest front spacer lift to correct the geometry. Not perfect but best bet without spending a lot of money. There is some info on it on the gladiator forums. I have a JTR that I'm about to put King or Fox remote reservoirs on. Good luck with your Gladiator.
By adding winch and after market bumper (steel I presume?) you effectively permanently lowered the load capacity by that additional weight. Adding a front lift may correct the geometry but would not take away the fact that you changed front too back weight distribution and subtracted from the load capacity. Further I understand the reason why Jeep used a plastic front bumper and removed the rear underside bars was to lower the overall weight and thus not lower overall load capacity even more as well as affect performance with a higher overall weight. The Mojave has a finely tuned suspension probably best left stock, including the wheels and tires
I'm looking at the Mojave and the Rubicon. We are a family of 4 living in Puerto Rico, rough and curvy roads, lots of beach, camping, paddle boarding and want to tow a small boat but we don't do any rock crawling, just muddy trails but the vehicle WILL be a daily driver. Would you suggest the Rubicon or mojave?
From what I understand, the lower tow rating for the manual transmission is due to the clutch, it’s a bit weak. Also, if you spend most of your time on the highway the Mojave has a better ride than the Rubicon if that matters to anyone, this isn’t a Lincoln town car but either one will have a much better ride than the CJ5 I used to drive.
I feel like this is a great package except for one glaring issue and that is power. If you really do plan to take it out into the sand, you are going to notice how much the engine has to work to get that wheel speed up. It is by no means a deal breaker, but I do feel that for a vehicle of that size and weight, in the sand, this might actually be a bit of an issue. Now if they brought the 392 to this thing then we really would have the full complement. At that point I this truck to be a no brainer if you are looking for something smaller than a Raptor but built to haul buns off-road.
I think the 392 might take you too close to the edge, if you get my drift.Ive bumped my head enough times to remember I hit it just a little too fast.But it would sound fantastic with flowmasters.
Steve, I’d love to see some towing with a Gladiator Sport Auto Max Tow package. I have one but trying to decide if the extra expense of an aluminum trailer is needed. I’ll be towing roughly 4000lbs plus the trailer weight but only once or twice a year 200 miles one way. The Jeep website they set you up on listed my vin to tow 8000lbs, but I’d prefer to keep it under 7000.
Great coverage guys as always! I thought the JT was interesting in the beginning but I'm over it like many others out there. I have my JKU for offroad adventures and if I want a truck Im going to get a real truck with a Cummins Diesel that can do anything I throw at it...
I hope they add some more engine options down the line. My previous 4dr wrang had the 3.6 and power was just lacking. I would like to see the 3.0 ecodiesel and a 5.7 hemi option. I might make the switch then
The Jeep Gladiator Is A Must Off-Road Worthy. It Can Tow Between 2,000 LBS & 5,500 LBS Because The Tow Rating Is 7700 LBS Because Of The 4.10 Axle Ratio With A V6 & A Automatic Transmission If You Want To Tow With A Manual Transmission Get The Timberleaf Camper & The Lawnmower Hauler Because You Can Tow Between 990 LBS & 2500 LBS & It's Rated To Tow 4,000 LBS For The Sport Version & Then 4,500 LBS For The Rubicon & Then The Mojave Versions All For The Manual 🇺🇸.
The manual gladiators can tow better (rather notices a less of a drag) when going up hills than the automatics. You actually are supposed to go into manual mode and shift down when going up hills while towing with an automatic. At slower speeds, the Jeep can pull up steeper inclines than other half tons, however the other half tons will be able to go faster when they can pull up the same inclines. And most other companies that sell trucks try to beef up their tow ratings and payload ratings as much as possible and Jeep tries to underrate it, as they have a huge brand imagine they are trying to curate, and having a bunch of people who's Gladiators fail at towing their max ratings would be bad for the Gladiators image. I reckon you could probably go over 20% of the ratings given to Jeep, however I wouldn't personally. And weight distribution systems are a must due to the shocks in Jeep Wranglers or Gladiators. Keep in mind the weight suspension will minus about 20%-50% of the tongue weight on the truck, though only 10-25% of the total payload. So if your tongue weight is 500 lbs, and you add a 90 lb weight distribution hitch, the tongue weight will go up to 590 lbs, but only 295-472 lbs of that weight will go to the tongue. However about half of that will go to the front axles and the trailers axles. So the total payload added to the truck was 500 lbs, but now its 442.5-531lbs. So it can add a small amount of weight or remove some weight from the payload depending on how well its set up. You can further reduce the tongue weight and thus the payload being applied to the Jeep by violating the 40/60 rule, but you'll have to drive slower as now you are less stable and only should be done with a WDHitch. Also it may be worth it to detach the WDHitch when going at slow speeds on dirt roads. If you do this though make sure to store it in the back of the trailer. If its a travel trailer disconnect as much as you can and move it to the back.
Also getting the auxiliary setup prewired gives you a higher towing capacity when combined with engine cooling as now you can provide ample power to the trailers electronic breaks and your engine is able to take the extra stress of working hard. 4.10 axles obviously help too, and the max tow packages widened axles are the real sender. Adding less cushy springs, upgrading your axles and gears can make a mojave or rubicon tow more than a Sport Max Tow
Am I going to regret not getting the manual? I like manuals but never had one in a truck kinda sounds fun just don’t want it to be too much for everyday.
Do you guys think this would be viable for a forest worker? How does it compare to other mid size (ZR2 or TRD Pro) or full size (Rebel or AT4 or XT4) on high speed dirt roads.
@@badgerpa9 high speed desert runners also handle lower speed dirt roads well, plus I'd imagine it's nice to be able to drive fast on em if you want/need.
tbh going from my 08' tundra to the mojave. all i really lost was 1200lbs extra towing capacity. The payload is only 100lbs differ which is insane considering one is a midsize baja truck and the other is a fullsize work truck. I easily tow my 3500lbs A/T camper with my Mojave, and it really shines on the trail, something my Tundra really couldn't do despite being lifted and on 35s. TBH if i need more payload in the future im sure someone will offer HD springs or i can go with a modest 2in lift kit from Ironman 4x4 or Dobison with +800lbs dynamic capacity increase. however i have easily gotten 1800lbs in the bed with no issues as far as getting stuff from lowes to my house. However i wouldn't offroad with more than 350-450lbs of stuff in the bed, but thats more than enough for a good rooftop tent and other camping gear.
Any mildly serious towing over distance and some air bags in the back are a good modification. Weight distributing hitch as well. If your towing bigger stuff a bigger truck might be for you. Power wagon or another full size. Have to make some compromises for the Gladiator unless it gets a v8. I still think a Gladiator 2500 built on the power wagon chassis would be pretty slick.
For the size it does the job it’s designed to do ,I’m always wondering why people want a small truck with full-size specs ,that doesn’t make sense ,a compact truck or these days midsize truck compared to the earlier compacts in the 80s were designed for people doing light duty towing and hauling for the average weekend warrior ,full size trucks are designed more for the person that is looking for hauling and bigger loads (wider stance longer wheelbase bigger frame to help keep its manners when hauling and towing the bigger stuff a midsize really is it designed to do ) .you choose according to what fits your intended purpose .now they could add some power wagon features like stock winch maybe some 60s with 35 inch stock tires to improve off road capability. I drove a 88 ranger xtra cab with some 33s as my first truck and it did everything I asked of it for it’s designed purpose and I didn’t expect any more of it ,it was a dream to cruise around town because of its size and very rarely did I haul super heavy loads or tow large trailers with it .I enjoyed the ranger for 90 percent of my purposes then When needed I rented a full size when I needed full size capability ,what I said could be debated and I would expect it, I also put a 5.0 in that same ranger not so much to handle increased tow or payload but to have more pep with less strain for the 33s The dinky 6 couldn’t provide so there is some options that could improve on the gladiator like the current 6.4 they are dropping in the JL now but I wouldn’t expect full size tow and payload specs but more for effortless power to move up mountain passes and more torque through the soft stuff ,I wouldn’t mind seeing them widen the body a touch keeping with the same design and footprint with smaller flares to increase shoulder space in the interior a touch and give more room in the engine bay to increase possible upgrades as well as making easier to service the engine personally without having to move stuff to get to other things .I’m like tinkering with things and I always will say you can improve on anything to a point without losing the intended purpose but once you exceed that point it’s time to look at moving up in size if you needs to handle stuff past it’s design .
@@kevinclark4459 No argument with what your saying. If the gladiator had a v8 it would just be more fun. My first truck was an 03 Dakota with a 4.7 v8 and it was a blast. I have a gladiator and the v6 would best be described as adequate. Really just wish there was more torque down low. I will say, if they stay with 6 cylinders, I would love to see a new more powerful in-line 6. Modern 4.0 I guess.
@@WbrookS-jm2bj yea the Dakota was a perfect combo for size and the v8 was just the right amount of power for the size ,the 04 was the one I wanted after my ranger because of the disc rear brakes ,I had a few friends with the Dakota and I loved the 2nd gen ,it was my favorite and pretty reliable to boot ,but one thing that drives me to the gladiator is the top coming off and the straight axle up front ,they been throwing around the idea of the Dakota back and if they keep to a baby ram frame on body look with ifs in the front with the v8 option and a decent off road package then they might be able to grab a good market share of the midsize market with the Dakota being more of a traditional look and with the road manners a ifs offers ?and then the gladiators for the topless sfa simplicity ,durability’and articulation only a sfa can offer . Side of the spectrum .I don’t knock ifs front ends because I’ve had both and until now ifs has been the main setup for midsize/ compacts and have improved greatly over the years ,the old 4Runner I had at one time was the only one I think that had a sfa setup till the gladiator,but that Damn bulletproof 22r was great but longing for power big time lol . Ford is rumored to come out with a pickup version of the bronco but sadly I’m not a fan of turbos and I really feel they missed the mark that the fans wanted not dropping the 5.0 as a option .when and if they build the truck variant I hope they realize the mistake and give the bronco what it’s missing .
@@WbrookS-jm2bj The original Penta Star V6 series (introduced about 10 years ago) was designed from 3L to 4L but the 4L was dropped almost from the start for some reason.
Adding air bags would compensate for the drop but the softer springs and other suspension components aren't designed for additional weight. I would not do that but that's just me.
That high speed off-road run looked like so much fun! Just got a new Rubicon, but I gotta find a way to make my Jeep Liberty a higher speed off-roader. Great review!
I’m green as all get out when it comes to 4WD vehicles but why can’t the front sway bar be disconnected on this vehicle? I get that the Rubicon can disconnect electronically but what’s to stop someone from doing it the old fashioned way? Or is it a structural thing? Sorry if it’s a dumb ass question, I’ve always owned cars and never anything like a Jeep or other solid front axle vehicle.
@@TruckKing fair point. just got into my first Jeep, and it’s the Gladiator Mojave. Most of the wheeling in my area in Florida is mostly trail riding with the occasional blasting through mud, didn’t feel like I missed a LOT not getting the Rubi but I was just curious. Thanks for the quick response 👍🏼
They guys thanks for doing what you do, is there any chance of asking FCA to review a Willys gas engine model. At 75k cdn for a rubicon or Mojave and the limitation the both tune suspension for each model when useing it as a truck I am wondering if a lower trim like the willys is a better model
The lower trims seem to have higher payload ratings because they weigh less empty. Also the Max Tow package Option available on the Sport and Sport S will have the highest payload rating of any Gladiators.
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Probably one of the better Mojave reviews I’ve seen. They pushed it
Spot on with the payload- Glad you emphasized it. I'm probably gonna by the Mojave anyway but I hope prospective buyers understand the payload limitations before buying!
Good clip! I bought the Mojave thinkin' if I ever need to get away from LEOs, I could hit the trail & say "good bye!" & you brilliantly illustrated that fact.
I appreciate you guys really testing the Mojave and not just driving around town, great video!
Bought one, love my Mojave !
Awesome job guys - I love my Mojave so far, after about 4 months I have zero complaints and have had zero problems. Great review!
Our pleasure!
Awesome review. Exciting to see you push that Gladiator to do what’s intended! 💪
I love this! I have a Mojave and this was one of the first things I did! The ride quality is SO impressive! We had a JKU before and would have died doing the same things! I was laughing and having a blast and my wife was screaming, DONT YOU BREAK MY NEW JEEP!!! Haha!
I love mine as well! ✌️
I don’t care about rock crawling…
But high speed muddin’? Now we’re talking!
I LOVE my Gladiator Mojave! Had some real fun up in Utah recently with it. Awesome vehicle. It's the BEST vehicle I've ever driven in snow by far. Of course it's not a "Work truck". It's a do all Jeep truck.
I appreciate what you guys test regarding the payload ratings, but I guarantee that 99% of the general public will be overloading these trucks with a cab full of people and a trailer in tow or atv in the bed. Keep up the great content
We know it - you know it. But, we borrow these trucks from the manufacturers so we make it a rule to respect the stated limits. It's the right thing to do.
@@TruckKing Appreciate the hard work and videos! This last comment has me raising an eyebrow...payload on your specific gladiator is under 1200 lbs. With 1k lbs in the bed, doesn’t that leave less than 200 pounds for driver and passenger? Not much left for passengers!
@@bp8171 You are correct. Payload capacity includes what's in the truck bed and cab including people and gear. What you are describing would very likely be over payload capacity unless the driver and passenger weighed 200 points combined and had no gear. It's not a truck to be used to carry a lot of weight regardless of where it's located.
Best Mojave video so far. I love how much fun u had
I get a chuckle watching you driving the dirt with a smile from ear to ear. 👍🏼
😁
Love the video, Stephen. The Mojave package is the best all-around performer. You proved it in your video. Too bad you can't get the package in the JLU.
If you wanted to put down the cash getting equivalent suspension on a jlu can be done. Only negative is that if you want to lift a Mojave options are a bit limited without having to replace the shocks you payed thousands extra to get. A bit disappointing not getting the front locker but not a huge deal.
You guys make the best videos hand down! Love this channel!!
Thank you so much 😀
BAK FLIP Tonneau covers fold out of the way completely and are well.made.
Cool that you got the manual!
great video. You and Pops give me a different perspective on the Gladiator. Thanks
Glad to hear it!
That changed my opinion on the truck..I like it.
Listen here! You need to do more gladiator video!!!🤞🏾🙏🏾
Nice review. The best way to measure suspension sag is to measure from the bottom edge of the rim to the fender lip. Otherwise tire compression/ground compression is skewing your measurement.
Please do a Gladiator Rubicon vs. Mojave!!! Re-discovered you on TK. Subbed. Good work!!!
Happy to see you guys making that Mojave do more than offroading!
Thanks - we drive it the way the engineers intended.
I really enjoyed the high speed footage. It looks like the suspension is indeed tuned nicely. If I tried that in my base Sierra, it would not go well at all. LoL.
I would have bottomed out my tacoma like 500000 times lol
i haven't heard you giggle like that in a truck before. noted. giggle like a little girl test approved LOL.
He does get excited - you should have seen him as a little kid with a popsicle!
Pure joy like a kid on Christmas. I always get a smile when he goes full giggle.
Great review, excited to pick up my wife's new Mojave today!
Have fun!
THANK YOU for reviewing a manual transmission, and towing with it! My channel has a lot of videos with my JK in them, and some towing. I have the 6spd manual and love it. It did sound like that new 6spd had to dig a little deep for the torque, which is surprising, because I thought FCA made 1st gear taller in the JL than it is in the JK.
This was the best review ive seen on the Mojave thanks a bunch.
Glad it was helpful!
I just traded my Rubicon JT in for a Mojave and i love it... I dont crawl , i like a little speed on trails..
This dawgone Mojave knocked it outa the park as far as performance on the trails go at speeds!!
After driving the Rubicon and the Mojave, can the Mojave do slow trails and be fine? Maybe a dumb question, so maybe I should reword it, how capable is the Mojave off road without a front locker? I'm in Georgia and would love to take a Gladiator out to Colorado one day to run some passes but nothing super extreme. It would also be a daily driver around the Atlanta area and head to Florida beaches. Any recommendations would be appreciated, Rubicon or Mojave. Thank you, and love the work you do.
Great review. I like your technique. Oh, and I take delivery of my new Mojave last week.
Have fun!
Thanks for the video, I have been driving a 2000 Jeep Wrangler since 2001 and have been leaning towards the Gladiator Mojave over the Rubicon due to the suspension and the fact that the majority of my driving will be on road. I also do enjoy off road driving but I cant spend that kind of money and a vehicle and then grind it over rocks.
Love your reviews Stephen. You talked me into a 4Runner a few years back when you took a TRD Pro through the ice. I ended up getting an Off Road Premium. Great Overland vehicle but quite underpowered. Traded that and got a 2015 Ram 2500 6.7 Cummins. I am quite happy with that. Keep up the good work!!
Steve, what was the on pavement ride like? The desert runners seem to be more compliant so I would think that the on road performance would be better than the standard Jeep suspension.
softer yes, but wanders a bit more.
You don't get a jeep for pavement dude.
@@Apoc_Bone_Daddy People are daily driving these. On road is as important as off road.
@@Apoc_Bone_Daddy yet 98% of their use will be on pavement.
@@TruckKing I don't care abput wandering in a brick I have a 6th gen camaro for performance lol
Another 👍 for Stephen and his Dad. 🇨🇦💪🇺🇸
Awesome video!!!😎 Thank you Truck King and King Dad!!...I really enjoyed this!!!
And with the 6.4L Hemi it would be an actual desert runner.
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Americas most wanted 4x4 can take care of that for you
Even the 5.7 would be a great option and leave the set up as is with minor changes for the weight. The last thing we need is a another V8 option coming in at 70k+.
@@playnicebegoodtoothers6944 Yeah true. The Wrangler 392 is pretty crazy and expensive!
What about squeezing more power out of that V6 if you were to try to keep the weight to a minimum? Are turbochargers a recipe for disaster on the Pentastar?
I got a 2021 Mojave great ride. However the ride changed to a little nose heavy when I put a winch and after market bumper on it. Still figuring out how to fix ride without taking of winch and bumper
Figure out what amount of height you lost in the front. Then get closest front spacer lift to correct the geometry. Not perfect but best bet without spending a lot of money. There is some info on it on the gladiator forums. I have a JTR that I'm about to put King or Fox remote reservoirs on. Good luck with your Gladiator.
By adding winch and after market bumper (steel I presume?) you effectively permanently lowered the load capacity by that additional weight. Adding a front lift may correct the geometry but would not take away the fact that you changed front too back weight distribution and subtracted from the load capacity. Further I understand the reason why Jeep used a plastic front bumper and removed the rear underside bars was to lower the overall weight and thus not lower overall load capacity even more as well as affect performance with a higher overall weight. The Mojave has a finely tuned suspension probably best left stock, including the wheels and tires
I'm looking at the Mojave and the Rubicon. We are a family of 4 living in Puerto Rico, rough and curvy roads, lots of beach, camping, paddle boarding and want to tow a small boat but we don't do any rock crawling, just muddy trails but the vehicle WILL be a daily driver. Would you suggest the Rubicon or mojave?
Mojave should be plenty for what you're doing.
@@TruckKing thank you!!
You had so much fun on those high speed runs! Fun video to watch and informative. Great job!
Thanks for watching
My favourite truck, and Canadian channel!
Wow, thanks!
From what I understand, the lower tow rating for the manual transmission is due to the clutch, it’s a bit weak. Also, if you spend most of your time on the highway the Mojave has a better ride than the Rubicon if that matters to anyone, this isn’t a Lincoln town car but either one will have a much better ride than the CJ5 I used to drive.
People that get vics like these and worry about highway driving.
Man. That's major lol factor
Mine handles the pot holes and bumps really well! 👍
Great ride for a Jeep
Need those shocks on the Rubicon...
Can’t wait getting mine this week🥰
I feel like this is a great package except for one glaring issue and that is power. If you really do plan to take it out into the sand, you are going to notice how much the engine has to work to get that wheel speed up. It is by no means a deal breaker, but I do feel that for a vehicle of that size and weight, in the sand, this might actually be a bit of an issue. Now if they brought the 392 to this thing then we really would have the full complement. At that point I this truck to be a no brainer if you are looking for something smaller than a Raptor but built to haul buns off-road.
I think the 392 might take you too close to the edge, if you get my drift.Ive bumped my head enough times to remember I hit it just a little too fast.But it would sound fantastic with flowmasters.
More power is needed but the 392 is too heavy and would mess with vehicle dynamics. Ditto the 3L diesel
Finally, a high speed rough road Mojave review.
You tested this vehicle on what it was designed for. Great
That’s a sharp truck
JEEP Just Enough Energy Propelled
Just empty every pocket
@@devengudinas1649 good one
Great video as always!
I love when you push the limits
Just picked one up today- thanks for the vid- from Arizona this is gonna be the shit..
it amazes me how people worry what color the tow hooks are.i could really care less as long as i have some.
Isn't it kind of a tongue-in-cheek thing at this point?
@Air Force Juan sayyy whatttt
Steve, I’d love to see some towing with a Gladiator Sport Auto Max Tow package. I have one but trying to decide if the extra expense of an aluminum trailer is needed. I’ll be towing roughly 4000lbs plus the trailer weight but only once or twice a year 200 miles one way. The Jeep website they set you up on listed my vin to tow 8000lbs, but I’d prefer to keep it under 7000.
When we get a Max Tow package equipped model we'll definitely do it. In the meantime, we feel that overall it will tow higher weights well.
Super cool and great video fun and informative, superbly done
Great coverage guys as always! I thought the JT was interesting in the beginning but I'm over it like many others out there. I have my JKU for offroad adventures and if I want a truck Im going to get a real truck with a Cummins Diesel that can do anything I throw at it...
I hope they add some more engine options down the line. My previous 4dr wrang had the 3.6 and power was just lacking. I would like to see the 3.0 ecodiesel and a 5.7 hemi option. I might make the switch then
diesel is now available. Look for the review here on the channel.
@@TruckKing Oh cool thanks man!
The Jeep Gladiator Is A Must Off-Road Worthy. It Can Tow Between 2,000 LBS & 5,500 LBS Because The Tow Rating Is 7700 LBS Because Of The 4.10 Axle Ratio With A V6 & A Automatic Transmission If You Want To Tow With A Manual Transmission Get The Timberleaf Camper & The Lawnmower Hauler Because You Can Tow Between 990 LBS & 2500 LBS & It's Rated To Tow 4,000 LBS For The Sport Version & Then 4,500 LBS For The Rubicon & Then The Mojave Versions All For The Manual 🇺🇸.
6.4 Hemi is a must for this one
My 2020 TRD PRO GVW is only 900lbs! That's a couple of fat chicks!
No tow haul mode with automatic either
Can't wait to get mine. Just saving up for it right now.
The manual gladiators can tow better (rather notices a less of a drag) when going up hills than the automatics.
You actually are supposed to go into manual mode and shift down when going up hills while towing with an automatic.
At slower speeds, the Jeep can pull up steeper inclines than other half tons, however the other half tons will be able to go faster when they can pull up the same inclines.
And most other companies that sell trucks try to beef up their tow ratings and payload ratings as much as possible and Jeep tries to underrate it, as they have a huge brand imagine they are trying to curate, and having a bunch of people who's Gladiators fail at towing their max ratings would be bad for the Gladiators image.
I reckon you could probably go over 20% of the ratings given to Jeep, however I wouldn't personally.
And weight distribution systems are a must due to the shocks in Jeep Wranglers or Gladiators.
Keep in mind the weight suspension will minus about 20%-50% of the tongue weight on the truck, though only 10-25% of the total payload.
So if your tongue weight is 500 lbs, and you add a 90 lb weight distribution hitch, the tongue weight will go up to 590 lbs, but only 295-472 lbs of that weight will go to the tongue.
However about half of that will go to the front axles and the trailers axles.
So the total payload added to the truck was 500 lbs, but now its 442.5-531lbs.
So it can add a small amount of weight or remove some weight from the payload depending on how well its set up.
You can further reduce the tongue weight and thus the payload being applied to the Jeep by violating the 40/60 rule, but you'll have to drive slower as now you are less stable and only should be done with a WDHitch.
Also it may be worth it to detach the WDHitch when going at slow speeds on dirt roads.
If you do this though make sure to store it in the back of the trailer.
If its a travel trailer disconnect as much as you can and move it to the back.
Also getting the auxiliary setup prewired gives you a higher towing capacity when combined with engine cooling as now you can provide ample power to the trailers electronic breaks and your engine is able to take the extra stress of working hard.
4.10 axles obviously help too, and the max tow packages widened axles are the real sender.
Adding less cushy springs, upgrading your axles and gears can make a mojave or rubicon tow more than a Sport Max Tow
I thought the 6000 lb tow rating was on the High Altitude model. Not sure why it gets that but that’s what I found on keep website.
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likable canadian dude.
Still waiting for that Gladiator J6 concept that will never come.
Great review! You should bring your dad along more often!
Thanks! Will do!
That looked like so much fun. I was smiling from ear to ear hahaha I think I'm going to trade my tacoma in now. Thanks! Lmao
Great video Stephen. Keep up the good job.
So how would you say it does against the zr2? Both are basically set up for the same thing
Is there any way to increase the payload? Any aftermarket axle or suspension setup for increased payload?
Am I going to regret not getting the manual? I like manuals but never had one in a truck kinda sounds fun just don’t want it to be too much for everyday.
I got a rubicon, it goes on the beach just as fast as I want to go
Do you guys think this would be viable for a forest worker? How does it compare to other mid size (ZR2 or TRD Pro) or full size (Rebel or AT4 or XT4) on high speed dirt roads.
Every truck you named would work for sure. But, they are all different - you really have to go drive them - that's your homework!
A forest worker going high speed on a dirt road? They usually go as slow as the orange trucks.
@@badgerpa9 high speed desert runners also handle lower speed dirt roads well, plus I'd imagine it's nice to be able to drive fast on em if you want/need.
@@wolfgang_h3t really
It would work fine as long as it wasn't overloaded to exceed a relatively low load capacity rating.
tbh going from my 08' tundra to the mojave. all i really lost was 1200lbs extra towing capacity. The payload is only 100lbs differ which is insane considering one is a midsize baja truck and the other is a fullsize work truck. I easily tow my 3500lbs A/T camper with my Mojave, and it really shines on the trail, something my Tundra really couldn't do despite being lifted and on 35s. TBH if i need more payload in the future im sure someone will offer HD springs or i can go with a modest 2in lift kit from Ironman 4x4 or Dobison with +800lbs dynamic capacity increase. however i have easily gotten 1800lbs in the bed with no issues as far as getting stuff from lowes to my house. However i wouldn't offroad with more than 350-450lbs of stuff in the bed, but thats more than enough for a good rooftop tent and other camping gear.
Great review guys
Any mildly serious towing over distance and some air bags in the back are a good modification. Weight distributing hitch as well. If your towing bigger stuff a bigger truck might be for you. Power wagon or another full size. Have to make some compromises for the Gladiator unless it gets a v8. I still think a Gladiator 2500 built on the power wagon chassis would be pretty slick.
For the size it does the job it’s designed to do ,I’m always wondering why people want a small truck with full-size specs ,that doesn’t make sense ,a compact truck or these days midsize truck compared to the earlier compacts in the 80s were designed for people doing light duty towing and hauling for the average weekend warrior ,full size trucks are designed more for the person that is looking for hauling and bigger loads (wider stance longer wheelbase bigger frame to help keep its manners when hauling and towing the bigger stuff a midsize really is it designed to do ) .you choose according to what fits your intended purpose .now they could add some power wagon features like stock winch maybe some 60s with 35 inch stock tires to improve off road capability. I drove a 88 ranger xtra cab with some 33s as my first truck and it did everything I asked of it for it’s designed purpose and I didn’t expect any more of it ,it was a dream to cruise around town because of its size and very rarely did I haul super heavy loads or tow large trailers with it .I enjoyed the ranger for 90 percent of my purposes then When needed I rented a full size when I needed full size capability ,what I said could be debated and I would expect it, I also put a 5.0 in that same ranger not so much to handle increased tow or payload but to have more pep with less strain for the 33s The dinky 6 couldn’t provide so there is some options that could improve on the gladiator like the current 6.4 they are dropping in the JL now but I wouldn’t expect full size tow and payload specs but more for effortless power to move up mountain passes and more torque through the soft stuff ,I wouldn’t mind seeing them widen the body a touch keeping with the same design and footprint with smaller flares to increase shoulder space in the interior a touch and give more room in the engine bay to increase possible upgrades as well as making easier to service the engine personally without having to move stuff to get to other things .I’m like tinkering with things and I always will say you can improve on anything to a point without losing the intended purpose but once you exceed that point it’s time to look at moving up in size if you needs to handle stuff past it’s design .
@@kevinclark4459 No argument with what your saying. If the gladiator had a v8 it would just be more fun. My first truck was an 03 Dakota with a 4.7 v8 and it was a blast. I have a gladiator and the v6 would best be described as adequate. Really just wish there was more torque down low. I will say, if they stay with 6 cylinders, I would love to see a new more powerful in-line 6. Modern 4.0 I guess.
@@WbrookS-jm2bj yea the Dakota was a perfect combo for size and the v8 was just the right amount of power for the size ,the 04 was the one I wanted after my ranger because of the disc rear brakes ,I had a few friends with the Dakota and I loved the 2nd gen ,it was my favorite and pretty reliable to boot ,but one thing that drives me to the gladiator is the top coming off and the straight axle up front ,they been throwing around the idea of the Dakota back and if they keep to a baby ram frame on body look with ifs in the front with the v8 option and a decent off road package then they might be able to grab a good market share of the midsize market with the Dakota being more of a traditional look and with the road manners a ifs offers ?and then the gladiators for the topless sfa simplicity ,durability’and articulation only a sfa can offer . Side of the spectrum .I don’t knock ifs front ends because I’ve had both and until now ifs has been the main setup for midsize/ compacts and have improved greatly over the years ,the old 4Runner I had at one time was the only one I think that had a sfa setup till the gladiator,but that Damn bulletproof 22r was great but longing for power big time lol . Ford is rumored to come out with a pickup version of the bronco but sadly I’m not a fan of turbos and I really feel they missed the mark that the fans wanted not dropping the 5.0 as a option .when and if they build the truck variant I hope they realize the mistake and give the bronco what it’s missing .
@@WbrookS-jm2bj The original Penta Star V6 series (introduced about 10 years ago) was designed from 3L to 4L but the 4L was dropped almost from the start for some reason.
Adding air bags would compensate for the drop but the softer springs and other suspension components aren't designed for additional weight. I would not do that but that's just me.
I got admit i really enjoyed watching this review. 👍🏼
Glad to hear it!
That high speed off-road run looked like so much fun! Just got a new Rubicon, but I gotta find a way to make my Jeep Liberty a higher speed off-roader. Great review!
Most reviewers seem seem to dislike the low torque 3.6 with the manual, and the rev hang ? you guys thought it was good?
We thought it was enough
Good stuff!
Great review guys! Thanks for that!
Thanks for watching!
For everyday driver willys is the package to go
If anything, Jeep overbuilt the Mojave because they wanted it to handle the high speed off roading.
I can't think of too many places where I could use locally. Nice to see manual test.
Was steer wandering/looseness addressed by a recall?
I hope so. I just took delivery on mine and I definitely notice it!
@@djsin5254 Do you check for a recall on your steering box? I think there was one for the same issue on the Wrangler.
Great video
Thanks!
When did this video recorded, looks like summer. Good one anyway.
Late fall - we had to wait with it as we messed up the weight on the trailer and had to do again. Thought we explained that in the video - oh well,
My 21 mojave is raked.
Did you use your rear locker during the high speed course?
Great review 👍
Awesome review!
Thanks!
Jeep needs to up the HP to 300 or 350 TQ 400! to 420! Make the MPG at 30 then they'll might get some bites on people buying more of them!
I also want to ask about monthly payments on that Mojave thanks
Hasn't the wandering steering problem been fixed with a steel steering box?
not 24.3k Subs... Should be 243k
I’m green as all get out when it comes to 4WD vehicles but why can’t the front sway bar be disconnected on this vehicle? I get that the Rubicon can disconnect electronically but what’s to stop someone from doing it the old fashioned way? Or is it a structural thing?
Sorry if it’s a dumb ass question, I’ve always owned cars and never anything like a Jeep or other solid front axle vehicle.
Anything can be manually disconnected - problem is do you leave it off? Re-install when you hit pavement? Frankly, you'd probably only do that once.
@@TruckKing fair point.
just got into my first Jeep, and it’s the Gladiator Mojave. Most of the wheeling in my area in Florida is mostly trail riding with the occasional blasting through mud, didn’t feel like I missed a LOT not getting the Rubi but I was just curious. Thanks for the quick response 👍🏼
@@blackonefifty I live in the Souther US too. Do you still like it? Does the steering wander?
Interesting!
Nice review super like it
They guys thanks for doing what you do, is there any chance of asking FCA to review a Willys gas engine model. At 75k cdn for a rubicon or Mojave and the limitation the both tune suspension for each model when useing it as a truck I am wondering if a lower trim like the willys is a better model
The lower trims seem to have higher payload ratings because they weigh less empty. Also the Max Tow package Option available on the Sport and Sport S will have the highest payload rating of any Gladiators.