2020 Jeep Gladiator Mojave | Suspension is Everything
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- We review the 2020 Jeep Gladiator Mojave truck, a new trim level to help compete against the Ford Raptor and Tacoma TRD. The updates to the Mohave include many suspension and chassis changes that we discuss. Will these updates make this one of the more desired midsized trucks in the segment? Other options are the Toyota Tacoma, Chevy Colorado, and Ford Ranger.
Gladiator Off-Road Testing:
• 2020 Jeep Gladiator Qu...
Outro Music - Alan Fowler Music - Shop
Index:
00:00 - 00:55 Intro
00:55 - 3:03 Interior and Audio Test Results
3:03 - 7:01 Mechanical - Changes to Suspension and Body
7:01 - 12:00 Changes to the Rear Suspension and Frame
12:00 - 11:54 Under the Hood and Towing
11:54 Final Thoughts - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Jack's been such a great addition to this channel. Mark was already one of the best perspectives in the automotive press, but the chemistry between the two of them really elevates the more recent SG reviews. And really, Jack is becoming a great presenter in his own right.
Agreed
Jack is starting to get his swing going. A little decrease in speaking pace would elevate his progress even more but you can't deny the enrichment brought by Jack
there is more quality and effort put into the b roll on savagegeese videos than some youtubers put into their entire video. i probably wont be in the market in for a new vehicle for a few years, but you bet your ass ill be watching every upload on this channel. love you guys. keep it up.
Reviews are shit though.
@hostile cool story bro.
"its not tough, it's whimsical"
I sense a disturbance, like the tens of thousands of the angry-eye jeep owners screaming in anger
I actually agree with this. That’s how I feel about my JK 2 door, I love its character. It’s by no means perfect and very much so with it’s bad catalytic converter, even so it’s hands down the vehicle that has the most personality I’ve ever owned and I love the damn thing, deficiencies and all.... why I’m willing to put up with those problems. I usually dump my cars before they develop issues, not this one, it’s been long paid off and not leaving my fleet.
DRIVING V6 THAT BURNS GAS LIKE V10
@@kennyduarte783 I went from a 2016 Subaru wrx to a 2008 2 door Jk and have ZERO regrets…I do miss the power windows though 😅
I’ve owned a lot of Jeep’s in different styles over the last 25 years and this one beats them all in ride , handling and style .
Love my Mojave!
They will sell 1, 000 of these on Nantucket. Our speed limit does not go above 45 mph. Half our roads are unimproved sand. Much like most of Massachusetts our paved roads are 50% potholes. And, we already have 1,000 Gladiators on the island. I look forwards to be side swiped on my bike by 20 of these each day. But that name is spelled wrong the model should be called Jeep Gladiator Madaket...because that is where 90% of these will be parked.
hilarious
@lincoln cool story bro.
Lol
We drive them out West too. There is life on the left side of the Appalachians...
I agree this is THE trim for most people. I even think it might be one of the best for forest workers. Daily commutes on dirt roads can get very old very fast and most of them end up in more expensive full size pickups that probably ride better but not much on bad roads. Lets face it, the rock crawling crowd isn't huge but the weekend warrior that likes to explore is. I only wish they made it in a shorter wheelbase version. Maybe a regular cab on a Wrangler Unlimited wheelbase or a regular 4 door Wrangler with much shorter bed. Its just too long for me. The type of off roading I do is such that when I decide to turn around the road is already pretty bad...in this you'd be reversing for miles before you could turn around.
I hope this is still around in 3-5 years. Kids out of car seats and just in small boosters. Trade out of our Ford Flex.
Just a friendly recommendation
If you can add the price as tested right at the beginning that would be much appreciated and thank you
I’ve seen them do it on other reviews they’ve made, I wonder why they didn’t include it for this review?
Starts $43k, can be optioned to $60k
That’s kind of the thing with Jeeps, it’s just so variable.... as in so many ways to option it out. I’m not sure about the Mojave in this case but if you want a bare bones example with crank windows, no A/C and a manual transmission, you can do so, or you could load it up with every option as well.
½ Ram + ½ Wrangler = 1 Rambler.
They may already own the name thru American Motors.
Yeah good point and that would be a great name.
In that case, you call it Ramgler!
They could build an ice cream truck and call it Nambler.
@@Dowlphin not omnomnombler?
@@tedpendagast579 Now that would be an interesting name for a change!
... Might also become a thing in the future when they run out of names.
... No, wait, they won't, because there will only be two brands left.
Since I’m a retired Chrysler employee I had help build Jeeps since Chrysler bought them, and have owned or leased ever Jeep that had been made. Just traded in my 2019 Ram Laramie for a 2021 Mojave and totally love it. I know the ride and the wind noice would be completely different and have no problem with that . The problem people have is they buy something they don’t want and will not accept what they have. I love the size of the Mojave because my wife and do gardening and we are alway getting plants, mulch, dirt, and other things for the home. Besides that I mainly use it as a daily diver and like the ride . I am looking forward to maybe fine some trails around Michigan where I can take the Mojave.
Just wanted to say how much I appreciate these reviews. I like that they are to the point, informative, and well thought out and put together. Keep doing what you're doing.
This makes so much sense. I’m not a huge off roader, but when I’ve done it, sand and high speed trails are a blast, and rock crawling is stress inducing misery. I don’t care if skid plates are designed for it, it’s not a fun sound. If tailoring it to high speed running also makes it better on road, all the better.
Mark and Jack, you are the men. Always enjoy when you guys team up for a review. Best TH-cam reviewers out there period!!!!
Wow! Jack as always dropping tha knowledge! Thanks for the info!
As always another awesome video! Love your reviews!
Great video guys ....... ..
Your video quality is getting better and better .. you two guys are a pleasure to watch plus the real-world review really gives someone a good perspective on what to buy.
Great video. Cool to see somebody get one up in the air and talk about the good stuff! Love the Mojave!
When the Mojave gets a Manuel but a Supra cant... 2020 worst year ever. Maybe its time to get a truck lol
When Toyota offers a manual on the Tacoma and not the Supra 😠☹️😤🤯🤬🤮
@@RestrictedHades well only one of those are made by Toyota, that might be the reason lol.
When the Mojave gets a Manuel, a Supra should get at least a Jose.
@@waynebrinker8095 lolol
@@waynebrinker8095 I prefer my Supra with Miguel
I’ve been waiting for y’all to tackle this
Another superb review. Thank you. We are sold.
Mark you and Jack are like a well oiled machine! I don't know why that sounded so dirty. As Always Excellent production values
Great video. Really enjoyed this one.
I am starting to enjoy your reviews more than many movies
Love it. Love all the JL/JT vehicles. Speaks to my soul
Excellent review!
To quote you guys, my Mojave Gladiator has character, there's a memorable experience with each drive, it's a whimsical driving encounter, and it immediately connects with my brain & my heart. I love how it hugs the road and corners in the turns. It's definitely a unique driving experience. I've only had my '21 Mojave 3 days, and it just connects with me. Mine had an original sticker price listed at $61,575; and I drove it away from the dealer lot for $43K, with only 33K miles. I'm Jeep-hooked in a very short period of time. Thanks for the video!
I bought my 22 Mohave after watching this video, I drove the Rubicon and the other models, they were scary on the highway, the Mohave I can drive 85 with one hand on the wheel and I live in maine were most of the paved roads are a bumpy mess, this handles them , like a dream, my f150 back end would jump all over the place.
I like what you all are saying about this vehicle. I wouldn't have thought that Mark would enjoy a vehicle as much as Jack S did. Now I am a happier viewer. (:
Great review
Patrolling in the Mojave almost makes you wish for a winter.
A nuclear winter
This is really smart and impressive from Jeep.
you guys deserve more subs
These things are everywhere now!! Saw 2 alone in a few mins yesterday at the Legoland Florida parking lot. It's the new cool "thing" to have atm.
Love my Gladiator and I came from the “cardboard” tacoma trd pro 6 speed manual. Had a built JK on 37’s and my Gladiator is already on 35’s. These things are beast and I still get better mpg then my taco!
This needs a Hemi to be the absolute desert runner!
Excited for the new off-road portion of the driving segment
Never thought id want a gladiator.. this trim seems the most logical fun u can have
Very disappointed I didn't see any footage of you guys sending it over some railroad tracks!
Also, I love this thing so much. I think you and Jack hit the nail on the head with it being unique and memorable. I drive a Toyota, and I bought it for much the same reason one would buy a KitchenAid mixer. It's not exciting, but you know it's going to last forever.
If I didn't need it to be a reliable daily driver for a few hundred K, and I had the coin, I totally would have gotten a Wrangler Rubicon instead.
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter
Your driving a Jeep your going to need plenty of mechanics available unless you have a well equipped shop but for nuclear winter I'd prefer an M35 truck.
I see you fellow Fallout fan. I appreciate you.
@@bryanmartinez6600
Me: What kind of mileage does the post-apocalyptic neo-classical m35 get?
You: No
Me: Pono...😎
@@soapbox187 - well with all the guns, ammo and troops you have stashed in your "barn" - unlimited?
It's difficult for me to wrap my head around the pricing of these vehicles. Loaded almost 60 grand? Jeez. I remember Mark talking about vehicle costs in his video on vehicle debt. Is this rig worth $800 /mo for 6 years (3.5%, $52000)? I just can't see it for a weekend dune buggy/truck. We have to get realistic here. Manufacturers are pricing these vehicles out of the reach of the average person.
Manufacturers and Dealers would really rather that their customers 'Lease' their vehicles for a 2 or 3 year term, and then return vehicle and lease another.
Consumerism....
And yet they're selling every one that they make.
Over priced beach 🏖 buggy
If you look at it as a truck only it is wildly overpriced. For someone who wants a Wrangler but with the additional tow/haul capability of a truck all in one vehicle, it sort of makes sense.
That's too much for too many years, yikes. That is one of the last vehicles I would spend that much on.
For a vehicle this size, a proper v8 should be the standard
Amen, at least the diesel is coming next year
I'd make the argument that it needs a V12 as standard, but then again, I'm touched in the head like OP.
@Robert Blackford Nope, But I've heard a Gen 2 Raptor in person and it sounds terrible just like everyone claims.
I have heard Turbo 4 bangers with more balls coming out of their exhaust pipes.
This will be my next vehicle. I need a truck for light duty home jobs, but I want the freedom of the Wrangler to take doors off and go off-roading on trails and camping. I think this looks better too than the other models with the hood scoop and slightly raised lift.
Thanks for another great review. Maybe, finally an acknowledgement by FCA that not everyone wants to rock crawl and put giant tires on their truck. Sometimes we want to just drive fast off-road. I would have been tempted by a Mojave edition had FCA not offered employee pricing for the other Gladiator models. Hopefully they offer (most of) the Mojave off road suspension separately as a lift kit.
I live in Northern Nevada....at first i was put off by the Gladiator. A friend has a Rubicon Wrangler that just plain sucks to drive on paved roads. Mojave is now in final competition for my next ride.
I never wanted a truck in my life. Ever.
After this video i still dont want.
But im impressed specially with the fact it comes with a manuel. You almost had me.
Manuel is my cousins name. He not coming with the truck unless you buy tacos.
@@eazy-333 💀😂
Can't wait to get me one. 😁
I think this will pretty quickly become the default off-road trim for the Gladiator. The Rubicon upgrades never made that much sense on something with a 140 in wheelbase, but the long wheelbase of the Gladiator makes it especially well-suited to the Mojave's "desert runner" setup, and, like you said, the Mojave's upgrades also make it a better daily than the Rubicon.
now if only FCA would give us a cheaper Gladiator work truck model with a 6.5 ft bed or bring back the Dakota it'd be all good.
if only FCA could make something that actually lasts past the warranty period, that'd be a start.
Supposedly they’re going to build a new Dakota on the platform of the Gladiator, supposed to start in the low $20,000 range
Joshua McCormick hope that’s true, but my 06 Dakota is still going so I’m in no hurry.
I think this is going to be my next Jeep. I'm currently driving a 2012 Jk that I love but I need an occasional truck and love the Gladiator. I think that the Mojave will take care of my needs, I do some wheeling but nothing super serious.
I can’t be the only one who realized they spelled Mojave wrong
I saw it right away
Car: *says Mojave written on it*
SG: imma just ignore that
KEKW
they spelled it how it sounds , personally i like it
@@valpanig I think he did it on purpose
This Jeep contains more "have" than other gladiators, which is why it was spelled Mohave. Kind of like the comedian MoNique, as she is more unique than most comedians.
To me the number one draw to the Mojave over all the other models of Gladiator is the extremely beefed up frame and shock mounts, this makes for a super strong truck for towing small to mid size travel trailers and SXS's, yet the jeep is still great for mild to medium trails offroad. I don't think your gonna bend this frame while towing or heavy hauling. If I was buying this I would add a hard side camper shell with roof top pop up sleeper its about 340 lbs. Perhaps an Overland AT Shell for desert camping in style. I would probably prefer the 5.7L V8 but the V6 appears to be adequate.
Oh my gosh, a vehicle with unique character! That's the key reason I don't enjoy pretty much any new vehicle, they have a lack of character.
The only Jeep truck I've driven, a Comanche SporTruck, road like a dream. It was the smoothest and flatest handling truck I've ever had the pleasure to drive.
Good reference to the Roman roads in a GLADIATOR
The Gladiator is a really special product from the Jeep brand. There isn't anything like it on the market today being a convertible truck with removable doors, windshield, and roof top that gives you that open air feeling/connectedness to your environment and the road around you, not to mention the insane off-road capability and character that Jeep is obviously known for.
Another fantastic review, SavageGeese. Keep up the good work, and I hope you and Jack are doing well during these challenging times.
Hey folks as always solid review and I have one of these in my sites but I wanted to ask, what is that intro guitar music?
I’d love to buy this one day.
Haven't seen many reviews that mention on road ride quality 👍🏻
No Doubt that the Jeep Gladiator is one of, if not, the BEST Off-Road Truck Money Can Buy.
However, Reliability will be the biggest question for the Gladiator. If this can be a long-lasting Off-Road Truck, then Jeep has a Winner.
Keep up the amazing videos, Geese!
I don't think Reliability will be _"the biggest question"_ - it's pretty much guaranteed to be near The Worst
Jeep was #26 out of 30 on the Most Reliable brands list
_"Unfortunately the same can’t be said, somehow, for the Jeep Wrangler, which anchored that brand down here, pulling it [down further] from 23rd place"_
Bullshit. I have 3 Promasters with this engine. 574,000, 540,000 and 310,000 miles. The engines are solid. The trans is known to be good. The rest of the truck is proven, and pretty basic and uncomplicated.
Kip Amore a vehicle is much more than an engine. Electronics, switches, hoses, computers...thousands of individually sourced parts.
@soundfx cool story bro.
@@kipamore you got lucky son but cool story bro.
I have offroad+ in my Rubicon JT so that feature is shared between both models. The Mojave allows its only locker to be used at higher speeds while the Rubicon has lockers F+R.
I noticed that comment mistake too. My JTR has OR+. It makes a noticeable difference too.
This can be yours for eighty four month financing with zero down, payments differed til October, zero percent interest for well qualifies buyers.
payments deferred until October, 2025!
Could be a winner!
the perfect vehicle to tackle the rugged terrain of the suburban parking lot
this is more up my alley. I love the raptor and ill never rock crawl in my life. seems like a solid move by jeep. looks good too.
It’s basically like getting a Ram 1500 Rebel but mid size and a Jeep. I’d be ok with this trim. When I off roaded my Silverado Z71, it handles what I threw at it and it only had an G80 locker (mechanical locker). I can’t imagine doing anything more than the rocky trails I’ve done in that truck.
Except for the engine. The Raptor gets the 450HP / 510T. If I test drove both I would choose the Raptor 10 out of 10 times.
Smarticus yeah the Raptor also has a much better interior
The raptor just out of the price range and this “sandy” market is tight. Not much there. I don’t hate the raptors at all
Before watching this video: "I would never buy this; why would anyone need this?"
After watching this video: "I need this."
lol - it all depends on what you need!
Could this help one forget about the problems with life, if only for a little while?
THAT IS WHY, YOU NEED...
This is what you need.
th-cam.com/video/snnrYpniUtg/w-d-xo.html
I was stuck in traffic on the LBJ freeway in Dallas in one of these and I was quite close to just hooking a hard right into the ditch and down the the access road. I had declined the rental insurance and that’s the only thing that stopped me. The truck would have done it no problem.
I slapped the kid g oem performance series coilovers on my 07 tacoma.
Changed the whole ride.
A lot of people don't know just how good these suspensions make the ride/cornering/
"Blasting buttholes"
Oooops, blast railroads....
Hope I made the right choice...looking forward to my Mojave that I ordered. Mine will have the 6-speed manual transmission though. Great video on the Mojave.
How do you like it so far? How about the stick shift?
@@aspe7187 Rides really nice. 6-speed is alot better than the old Jeep transmission. Reverse is where it should be and has a lockout so you can't accidentally hit it. Been a dream to drive.
Q: What do you call a smiling Roman Soldier with a hair stuck in his teeth??
A: A 'Glad-he-ate-her"...
...D,oh!!
Nice
Ooor. I am actually shopping for these and i have a super hard time deciding between the Mojave and Rubicon. Both are priced the same. But losing the front end locker seems like a big deal. Even though i dont see myself ever needing it…… is the ride in the mojave really that much better? The Rubicon has fox shocks too..
Mark the millennial makes cool car reviews
Are you guys going to review the 2020 Honda Passport?
If I could afford to purchase a second vehicle, the sole purpose of which was to serve as a recreational / utilitarian toy, this would be the one I'd probably get. It's something I would be able to enjoy year 'round, in all weather conditions.
Just a thought here but, I think a laser pointer would help viewers see what you're talking about. In The Shoppe segment is an example. I'm not suggesting something like this for anything more than when talking about under the vehicle. Seeing something highlighted whilst talking about it is helpful. Easy to get lost under there sometimes! Love you Gnarly Roosters!
Tires are in good condition, considering it's a 1927 model, but stylistically, it's definitely bang on-year. 😉
I been told steering wheel is very clumsy wiggles a lot is it true?
MoJave mo' problems, am I right folks?
Edit: I really hope they add the turbo 4 or diesel to this package because I just don't like v6s no matter how nice
it's needs the V8. I know everyone says that cause "powahhh" but in this type of truck, speed and power in sand is what's needed.
You can get the EcoD.
New diesel engines are usually dogshit due to very strict emissions in the U.S., also doesn't help that the 3.0L Ecodiesel is a fiat engine
An N/A V8 with no extra strain on engine components will inevitably last much longer than a turbo I4 that has all of the additional stress coupled with forced induction.
@@crittendon1000 yeah not needed 90% of these are going to be Mall Crawlers or Pavement Queens
What really sets the Mojave apart from the other Gladiators is the beefed up frame, its got a lot of added metal welded over the stress points, much better rig for towing than the rest, no slouch offroad either. This Mojave should put my 06 Tacoma to shame offroad. How come no Gator color in 2021??? I wanted Gator.
It has lower tow rating than others because the suspension is softer which makes it actually the worst for towing. Just like the raptor has a lower rating compared to other f150
10:04 want a comparison of open air motoring wind buffetting to GR Supra/z4 and to Ariel Atom.
Your comment was from "1 day ago" but the video is 6 minute old.
What?
@@jlang8213 I think it's patreon access
@@jlang8213 I get my early start thru Patreon-only access.
Would be interested if there is an OEM or aftermarket option to open the front part of the roof ...
Not sure I like the hard top, though. I guess it is quieter inside.
Sometimes those Arby's drive through lines can get rough.
Seriously though beefed up frame, comfortable long travel suspension. Sounds like a perfect daily driver to me.
The kind of vehicle for people who enjoying visiting their mechanic
I really wanted to like this thing when it came out, on paper it looked awesome, and I'm sure that it is.
But in person I just find it to look odd, I'm not sure if its the proportions, almost like the bed seems to long, or maybe the cab? I dunno.
I really liked the Comanche back in the day, imo they had the look dialed in really well.
Well, remember--the Comanche was a two-door, and this is a four-door, so that's what's going to sort of throw it off. I think it's proportions are fine for what it is, though I'd like a slightly longer(wider?) rear door.
@@lego4virgo I hear ya, and I understand the cab differences.
Maybe it will grow on me 🤷♂️
I dunno
Different strokes for different folks
There is one I see driving around here all the time. It’s one of the base models and the guy always has the top and doors off. It’s easily the most ridiculous thing I see driving around and that’s saying something.
Im restoring a Comanche right now
It looks like a model t from the rear. The bed is too narrow and too
Shallow.
This is totally off-topic, but if I wanted to search for more bluesy songs like the one in the intro what should I search for?
The spellling definitely had to be intentional haha. Good video. Shame that most of the buyers of this car are likely the same as the majority of the wrangler folks that buy them to roam shopping malls and not go off-road as designed.
So this is what the X Class aspired to be. So long.
In case you care Mark, I think 13 minutes is the perfect length for a video.
I would watch static shots of a 1986 Isuzu I-Mark in a junkyard...so long as you scored with music like 0:27 through 0:52
This video got me very interested in the Mojave. But then I started wondering how much for those shocks once replacement is due: around $1500 each 😲 (Part# 68465829AK and 68465846AK).
I know it is all about fun, but I tend to keep my vehicles forever and knowing that I have to pay close to $6k for shocks some day, that is a bit too much for me.
Jeeps in this trim level, are the cleanest things on the road.
Could you make a review on a 2020 Sequoia TRD Pro? With an additional Off road part where Jack will be putting dirt all over himself.
Is it possible to do a 1996-2000 Ford Explorer review
What's the song in about 0:40
I don't think I like the fake hood scoop. What's the payload of the mohave?
It would be great if they had a Wrangler with the Mojave trim
Offroad plus= For going over the drivethru curb at starbucks or supermarket parkingblock.
what's the song at 0:27 ?
Turbowski was here
Glad they finally got good Automatic transmissions in Chrysler products!
Mrwaffleandmilk the zf is used with a lot sports cars and is known as one of the best torque converter autos
" it has a ton of deficiencies and that's ok" .. given the year we have been having I will take that as a win :)
Where can I buy the Goose t-shirt?
Great video! However, the off road plus button is not exclusive to the Mojave. 2021 rubicon has it.
I think I will stick with my PT Cruiser with simulated walnut grain doors.
Nice combo
If you this style of truck. The ZR2s multi matic dampers are even better.