Good video. I have a 21 gladdy willys sport with the diesel. Almost 15k miles and no issues. Fuel milage is outstanding. Highway driving I have averaged 31mpg and city has been 25mpg average.
Curious how you got 7000 towing capacity on a Rubicon when they are rated at 4500? According to the dealer you can’t get a max tow package on a Rubi. I have a 23 Gladiator Rubicon
The 6 speed manual transmission with the 3.6 gas engine and 4.10 gears is rated at 4,500 lbs towing. The 8 speed auto transmission with the 3.6 gas engine and 4.10 gears is rated at 7,000 lbs towing.
Holy crap as many have said this is by far one of the most informative and informational videos on any subject I have ever watched. I watched it for the exact purpose it is titled for but wow the information you put out is so very good. You answered every question I had about towing with my gladiator. Thank you.
@@chrisdonohue3305 What the hell? Why do auto manufacturers make us consumers buy their trim levels? I want to be able to buy any trim level with the EcoDiesel.
Great review and content. Love the closing statement. It is a Jeep, with more towing/payload than a wrangler. It's not a towing truck. That's why us Jeep guys love it. It works for what we use it for. Thanks for the great video.
This is an incredibly informative video. Well done. I had a Gladiator Rubicon - and you're exactly right about the fun factor and the personality. You're also spot-on about the modifications negatively impacting towing. I added a 3.5" lift and 37" tires. It made towing a 22 ft. Airstream thru the mountains in CA - just awful. I wanted to upgrade trailers too - which made the Gladiator a deal-breaker. I traded it in for a 3/4 ton diesel. Anyway - excellent content.
I have a Gladiator sport S max tow and i use it to tow my camper. The camper is 4800 dry weight and about 6000 loaded up. I have no issues towing it. Get a good brake controller and weight distribution hitch with sway control. I live in hilly upstate NY and the gladiator does great. It is no speed demon but it does the job just fine.
I have a Gladiator Overland that tows a 20 ft. Rpod. We went to the Steens Or, Nevada desert, the CA coast and my driveway which has an area of 12% grade. Absolutely no problems.
So I just brought a 3500 pound camper and my gladiator overland is rated at 6000 pounds tow capacity. Keeping in mind my Glad is totally stock. I had a weight distribution hitch and trailer brake controller system installed at the dealer. I just brought it home for a two hour drive with some slight grades, and I experienced the high rpm’s you speak of and it made me a little nervous. It left me feeling I was taxing the engine too much. The tranny did seem to adapt quite well without the tow/drive mode. It was quite stable as far as the general driving experience though. I can definitely see the gas mileage will go down. BUT your video did instill more confidence in its towing ability. Thank you! I will keep it!
I have a 21 gladiator rubicon ecodiesel with over 50000 kms on it now. I have had no problems with the engine yet. I also plow snow with it and I'm not very nice to it, come pair to most people im sure. I am doing a dpf delete on it this week just to open it up more and get better fuel mileage. I'm fairly happy with it. Once all the emissions are delete I'm sure it will run way better.
Jeep should pay you for making this video. It is detailed an honest, and in the end, give people enough confidence to make the purchase if they were on the fence about it like me. Thanks.
Great info! I’m was a full time rv’er in a 41 ft motorhome hauling my 2-door Rubi in a 24’ enclosed car hauler. Because of not being able to get into the national forest campgrounds and always having to pay extra storage fees, I’ve decided to downsize! Yes, it’ll be a huge change but will allow me to go places that I really want to go to! Trailer sizes and weights that the 4-door unlimited can haul just aren’t large enough for me to live in full time!! The Gladiator will give me more options and allow me to continue my off-road adventures which is what I love to do!!!! Thanks again!
I have a 2021 sport just bought a mini max flex 25’8” live in Florida sure hope it works for me. But this is one of the best educational type honest videos regarding the capabilities of a gladiator that I’ve watched yet,thank you sir!!
Thanks for the helpful video! Low end torque is absolutely crucial. Whenever anyone talks about towing without talking about low end torque, I shake my head and say “Let’s pull the reigns back on this horse. Low end torque comes first.” I learned that when towing animals and set pieces for my productions across the French alps.
@@BigRockMoto I’d love to take my expertise from the theatrical stage to the virtual stage. Many life lessons learned from handling animals, performers, equipment, and outdoor adventure! Thank you for reading every comment, as you mention above. Attention to detail is truly the mark of a great artiste!
I've watched a lot of your videos about mid and full size trucks you've owned, they are great. Extremely thorough...hope you don't evaluate my house or truck one day!
Motor Trend had problems, but I had no problem even without the weight distribution hitch that Jeep recommends when towing over 2k lbs. In my testing it really performed quite well at 4,600 feet of elevation.
I chose the Gladiator for towing my 3.5k lb boat for lots of reasons. Most of which you touched on. I tow, primarily, from the Michigan/Ohio areas north bound into Canada and Minnesota border waters. I don't deal with many huge hills or grades. Nonetheless, big wind is often an issue. I chose the overland high altitude w/the pentastar and 3:73 gears. This combo affords me 20 mpg when not towing the boat vs: 14 mpg while towing. The Gladiators off road abilities are why I chose it over the Ford Ranger. If the Canadian border ever reopens, I will be able to easily reach obscure destinations within the wilderness with relative assuredness of getting in and out safely. Although my driving conditions differ greatly from the ones depicted in this video, the same amount of "homework " was necessary ensuring that the correct vehicle was purchased.
This has to be the most informative video I have seen to date on this truck. You answered every question I had. I have a sport max tow on order and will be pulling a little Casita on the beach at Padre Island. It would weigh 3000 max . I always go half capacity so it doesn't push the truck that much.
Great review, thanks for all your effort here! My wife was over in Anza earlier this year for a photo shoot. I think the one grade you did you mentioned Anza. We live over in SE Arizona.
Gearing makes a big difference in the JL/JT. The 8 speed is a nice compensator but when you put in real work, there's no denying the mechanical advantage of proper gears.
I have a 2023 Jeep Grand Cherokee L. Payload is stated as 1200 pounds, but if you subtract curb weight from GVWR it actually comes out around 1700 pounds of net carrying capacity. Not sure why the difference. Tire load ratings and GAWR's are not exceeded. I double checked my curb weight at the CAT scale and it was spot on the specifications. I use the higher number and double check everything on CAT when we head out with the trailer, including GCWR. Nice videos!
I found your channel recently, thank you. You're knowledgeable, well written, well filmed and so far, (6 videos in) i don't find you to be biased. I enjoy your cadence, pacing, editing, information and quality. Great job. Take my thumbs and sub... AND COMMENTS!
You summed me up at the very end. My wife has a wrangler and I have a 2500 chevy diesel. Along with other vehicles, I'm trying to downsize the amount of vehicles I have, but still have the vehicle that I can use for work and fun. We have a 22ft trailer that weighs 5000lbs wet. Based on what you said, I'm confident the gladiator will do what we want. Thanks for the video. I'm located near temecula so it was cool seeing you drive through Anza.
A rear camera when ever is a life saver I just bought a new trailer at the ass end of deer season 3 days left and the deers fell off and the is to the instant rear Camera I saw my deers rolled out somehow Got my deers back and more importantly prevented a wreck Worth every penny they are
Well gotta give ya respect sir👍 You seem to pretty much hit the nail on the head pretty squarely. The Gladiator is the ultimate jeep truck toy. Its not designed for serious towing but it can do it decently enough compared to its competition. And thats just a plus when such a capable off road machine can also do regular truck stuff pretty decently. If I could afford one I might give a Gladiator a try. But at my budget Ill have to happily stick with my used 2008 Nissan Frontier crew cab SE 4x4 long bed with 358,000 miles on it. Maybe after I get the Frontier to 600K there will be a used Gladiator out there I could afford. If not Ill just buy another awesome Frontier.
Well this definitely answered my towing questions. My main worry was about getting out of my driveway pulling our 18' car trailer loaded up with the 2 Can-Am Maverick Trails. Going from a F-350 to a Gladiator will be like night and day. Thanks for all your work on such a comprehensive video.
I am towing a 23-foot Airstream with a Jeep Grand Cherokee with the same 3.6L V6 and have similar issues. My max torque is at 4000 RPM. Cruise control runs about a gear or two too high to get RPM's under 2000 RPM for better fuel economy. This probably puts a lot of stress on the motor and transmission. In Auto mode without cruise control it still seems to favor higher gearing on climbs so I was manually shifting down to get above 3000 RPM. There is no Tow/Haul mode, but I found Sport mode sort of works for that. It favors lower gears to keep RPM's up and holds them longer on climbs. My temps typically run under 210 degrees unless I really ramp up the RPM's. A key consideration is not just tow capacity, but also GCVWR which is the total allowed combined weight of everything. I can't fully load my trailer without exceeding the Jeep's GCVWR with everyone onboard. Watch your tongue weights, payloads, and axle ratings. Use a weight distribution hitch and check everything at a CAT scale. Happy towing!
This is exactly what I needed as I’m looking into a similar size trailer but I want to be able to unhitch and explore in a jeep vs a giant (to me) truck. Actually I wanted a bigger trailer but I think I’m gonna go with 20 ft, 5000 GVWR for that reason. I’ll let you know how it goes! Thank you again!!!
I watched The Fast Lane Truck towing 7,000 pounds up a (Colorado) mountain yesterday with a gasoline max towing Gladiator. That ended all consideration of the vehicle for me. It was pushed all over the place on the way down (but not really commented on) and maxed 45mph on the way up. With a lack of the brake controller a couple of years ago, it all added up to towing misery. I am still looking for another Jeep or Toyota. EDIT : But after watching your video, it's more reassuring. I just retired last year and the idea of driving more slowly and maybe not using freeways hadn't even occurred to me. In the past (not towing) a 1,000 mile trip was a 1-day trip. Even with a trailer I wouldn't have imagined taking more than 2 days. IDK, I still don't believe the 7,650 GVWR max towing. I want to see the new 2024 Ford Ranger and how that tows and maybe I will wait for the new 2025 4Runner. But thanks for an alternate view of Gladiator towing.
Thank you for making this video. I have the exact same gladiator as you (same color even) except I don't have any customizations. Just the stock Rubicon tires. My family and I two parents and three children ages 9-16 (mentioned because of weight) pulled a 3200# box trailer filled with a 1500# meyers manx and two motorcycles weighing 300# along with other gear from Colorado to Bend Oregon over I70 and back on I80. Total trailer weight was 5,600#. My tongue weight was 700# (I was able to roll the dune buggy back and forth to achieve the tongue weight I wanted). People were about 700# and we had 100# if gear in the back of the truck, so I violated the truck carrying capacity by 300#. The box trailer has a large profile too so we violated the frontal area requirement in the jeep manual. I was able to do this because of this video. I bought the brake controller and weight distribution hitch and watched the gauges the whole way. The only two issues were that the engine is underpowered as you mention and a differential lock warning light. We could only do 65 mph on the interstates so we got passed by everyone including big trucks (speed limit is 80 mph for most of the way). Also, at 65 mph we were between 3500 and 4500 rpm mostly with jumps to 5500 (though I tried not to have those for too long) and so were getting around 9mpg for average the whole way. The second issue of the warning light seems to be common and seems to be just a faulty sensor. People have had this and the jeep dealers just replace the sensor. I am going to take mine in next week and will see. Thanks again for this video. without it I would not have even attempted this trip which was awesome and we were able to motor bike and dune buggy in multiple states along the way.
I have a MAX TOW Sport S and tow a 19' travel trailer that comes in around 3800 pounds (add in a bed full of stuff and a passenger as well). No problems at all. Completely stock save for some helper airbags to level the ride when towing. Use a weight distributing hitch with sway control bar. Tows just as well as my GMC Canyon with max tow did, maybe a little better as the transmission doesn't search around for the right gear as much as the Canyon did.
Outstanding video…don’t have a gladiator but do have a 2022 Canyon and feel like this video is still applicable. Haven’t towed with mine yet but came to the same conclusion at you for trailer size and weight …under 5k for weight and 18-22 feet, preferably tandem axle as well.
I have a Gladiator Sport, tow package, 6000lb capacity, and I tow an RPod 153. It is 3024 dry, load between 500-700 cargo total weight-me, wife, dog, fresh water, tools, grill, hitch weight, etc. Get 14.5mpg which is a real disappointment. Thought I would get 16-17. It tows real easy, handles the weight with ease, I keep my fresh water tank at half full. Use a Curt Spectrum brake controller. Went small for easy tow. I am going to slightly increase tire size from stock junk 31.5” to 32.5” and go a little more aggressive tread. All in all, pretty happy. I guarantee you will underestimate your weight. Take no chances and weigh your whole rig.
14-15 MPG towing a camper and that much cargo is SPECTACULAR. I've told many moderate and old school setups. It is very difficult to get to that number pulling decent camping trailer and weights. You are lucky.
I have a 2021 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon, I have towed our pontoon boat, works great, abused it once,towing a 29’ toy hauler empty. It did it, but I would say I was at its limits.
Really appreciate your information and explanations on towing with the Gladiator. We have a 2020 Gladiator Sport S....basic except for the heavy duty tow pkg. We live in Kansas City, MO and have been looking at the Lance 1685. We have watched your vids on the Lance products also. Nice work, we look forward to more.
Glad to help. A suggestion - consider getting the 1985, the crawl over bed on the 1685 is not my favorite thing. However I think you will be pushing your truck to tow it...
2020 JTR, 3.6, 2.5 mopar lift, 37's. Going back to 35's. 1. Did you consider manual shifting in the high revs? Then again, why mess with tuning? 2. I can see the WDS working for your config. Based on my research (my trailer 4800 loaded) a WDS poses a greater risk of bending the trailer frame. 3. I took the leap of faith with wireless b.c. Thanks so much for this video!
I recently traded my Rebel for a Gladiator Rubicon. A couple of things that hit me after the trade, a LOT less room and not much different MPG. I recently took my Gladiator on a 6 hour road trip, just put on a Smittybuilt XL tent and awning, Go Rhino bed rack, and have a Decked system in the bed, I got about 17-18 mpg going through mountainous areas of Alabama and Georgia. I also notice the lack of low end torque in the V6 after having the V8 in the Ram. Other than that, I love the Gladiator, I take it overlanding, love the doors and roof can come off. Very capable vehicle if you are planning on doing any off-roading in it
THANKS PAL YOU JUST SAVED ME ALOT OF MONEY. AFTER WATCHING YOUR VID I WILL JUST KEEP MY RAM 1500 WITH TOW PKG. I LOVE THE JEEP 2 DR.GLDIATOR IT REMINDS ME OF THE SCRAMBLER. BUT SADLY IT DOESN'T FIT MY NEEDS.......AGIAN THANKS I OWE YOU A BEER👍
Great video! Very informative and you did a good job laying out the pros and cons. I have a Sport S Max Tow set to arrive this month and am trading in a Ram 1500.
Thanks for the info. I have a Sport S mad tow and am looking for a trailer. You confirmed my thinking that I should stay close to 4000# and about 24’ , we like to go to the Sequois, those grades are killer
I have a Rubicon Launch Edition and pull a 10’ dump trailer with a John Deere 1025R loaded and use a wireless brake controller. The wireless I like because I don’t have to search for the button can keep in my hand. I agree with the motor reviving on inclines but the gladiator is such a versatile vehicle I don’t mind the limits of this truck. I’m pulling about 5700lb.
Thxs for the info looking into a travel trailer as well for my Jeep gladiator Rubicon and this was a gem of a video to watch. Probably costed you a fortune to make this video with the cost of gas right now, checks in the mail to help out lol.
Great video with solid advice. I purchased a 2019 Ford F150XLT 3.5 Ecoboost with max tow - including mirrors, larger 36 gal tank, etc. To be honest, this is my first Ford product. I grew up in a Toyota household and have always driven a Toyota. The only reason I went with a Ford was mainly due to the fact that I have a 3800 lb trailer I tow from time to time. My 08 4Runner V6 just couldn't keep up. In owning the truck for the last 4-5 months, I'm just not very impressed with the quality Ford provides at this price point. Originally, I really wanted to get a Gladiator... but it didn't really make sense when looking at the numbers on paper when comparing it to the F150. I've heard opinions all over the place with these mid-size trucks, when it comes to towing.
I just bought a 2020 Gladiator Sport S, 3 inch lift and 35 inch tires and 3.73 gears, for towing a 20 foot R Pod. I previously had, for 8 years, a 2013 JK with the 3.6 pentastar engine. So I am familiar with the engine and driving ( not towing ) steep grades in the western US. The first thing I am doing to it is putting 4.88 gears in it to help compensate for the lack of torque. I looked at tuners, superchargers, etc and it all seemed to came back to first having the right gearing..
Great information about the Gladiator. We are considering towing our 22 foot micro minnie winnebago which is the same size and weight as your Lance. We live in Florida and don't have nearly the amount of elevation that you have out there. So, we would be well within the limits. Also, we Love Jeeps - have owned a few and currently have a Grand Cherokee that is working but would really rather have a Gladiator -
We tow a small ~2500lb travel trailer with our Wrangler Diesel (non-Rubicon), and it’s a great combo. I barely notice the weight behind and no screaming gas engine, the diesel rarely even needs to downshift. We typically get about 20mpg pulling. I’m looking to add a Gladiator to the stable and having a very hard time locating a diesel in the config I want, so I may have to get a gasser. Thanks for the video which gives some of the pros and cons of that choice.
@ndjedinak I am considering a Wrangler or (maybe) Gladiator and am very much interested in the EcoDiesel. For now I would only be using it to tow an approximately 2200lb pop up. I was wondering if you have had any issues with your Wrangler Diesel? And did you make the switch to the Gladiator?
Hey, Josh! I ended up with a Ram 1500. Predictably, it pulls great. But we still pull out travel trailer with the EcoDiesel Wrangler on occasion, zero problems it’s a great setup. No issues with the Wrangler. We’re still enjoying it!
@@Antwort2und40 Thanks for the info, I have always towed heavier trailers with half ton, 3/4 ton or 1 ton trucks. Little apprehensive about switching to a midsize truck or wrangler. Although I would probably only use it to tow my pop up about 2200lbs, keep my F150 for my larger stuff.
You must be an engineer -- the detail level of your information is off the charts on all of your videos, but presented in an easily digestable manner. Thanks!
Great video! I love all the details and info. Will definitely be watching more of you. Btw, you can go into your steering wheel menu and have the gear you're in displayed in the automatic mode, without having to go into manual. My trailer is 4k dry and my wife hates the high revs of the engine. 🤙
Great informative video. Just bought my 2022 Willys Gladiator, and this video covered all the questions I had. Bought mine because I am a Jeep gut and into the fun factor. It's nice to know I can do some towing with it. Looking into a smal camper for a family of 4 to take into the NC mountains.
The Jeep Rubicon has GCWR (gross combined weight rating) of 12450#. This is the maximum weight of the truck, it’s passengers, it’s options, it’s payload and your trailer weight. The truck weights 5072#, out of the factory doors, and for most manufacturers this includes the driver at 200# so now start adding the other passengers plus your payload (ie the weight of your bed rack system, the tent if you left it on, your new tires etc etc). My suggestion is to go get it weighed with just you in it, this way you know your weight. Now subtract all this from the 12450# this is what your maximum trailer weight is, I’d put good money it’s no where near the 7000#, I’d take a guess at just over 6000#. 7000# towing capacity is the driver only, no cargo, no wife, no kids, no dogs, no upgrades. When it comes to towing people look at the numbers like they are carved in stone. I can tow 7000# AND I can haul 1250# AND load me and my 4 buddies in the cab. Then they complain about their trucks towing capacity because they’ve overloaded it by several thousand pounds. This is compounded by RV dealerships that don’t care if your overloaded as long as you buy the biggest trailer possible. Please be careful when your towing, an overloaded truck is a dangerous vehicle to be on the road. I know in some states and here in Canada, if you are in an accident and found out that you are overloaded you can be charged.
Great, in-depth video. Thanks for sharing your opinions on towing capacity, and providing real-world examples. I'm in the middle of doing a towing series on the Wrangler JL (an even worse towing vehicle). One of the videos i'm going to do is to compare the v6 to the 4C turbo when towing. Just wondering if you've ever towed with the 4C turbo on the gladiator and if it perfored better at elevation than the Penestar?
For a mid size truck, the Gladiator is great (in most configurations). Obviously it will be lacking compared to most any full size truck. But same holds true for a full size F-150 compared to a F-350. Its all relative.
That truck needs a hemi and towing performance would almost double. I don't mean you could tow more than current ratings, just that it would just be a much better experience towing the same loads. You'd lose a bit more payload, but not as much as with the ED. I got rid of my grand cherokee due to poor towing, it had the same pentastar but for long term durability I would not trust towing your load in your conditions on a regular basis.
Outstanding video. I have a Ram Rebel and I’m looking to trade it in for a Gladiator. I do have a 31’ camper that I’d have to get rid of due to the towing ability. I could make it work, but I don’t think it’d be wise. The best and most informative idea on the net-thank you!
I recently traded my Rebel for a Gladiator Rubicon. A couple of things that hit me after the trade, a LOT less room and not much different MPG. I recently took my Gladiator on a 6 hours road trip, just put on a Smittybuilt XL tent and awning, Go Rhino bed rack, and have a Decked system in the bed, I got about 17-18 mpg going through mountainous areas of Alabama and Georgia. You will also notice the lack of low end torque in the V6 after having the V8 in the Ram. Other than that, I love the Gladiator, I take it overlanding, love the doors and roof can come off. Very capable vehicle if you are planning on doing any off-roading in it. I have some videos on my channel if you want to see how I did my Gladiator up.
@@BigRockMoto I think you’re probably right, but a dozen times a year for 40-50 miles round trip should do it well. I feel that is what these trucks are designed for in the first place.
This is great to watch. I just ordered the sport S because of the Max Tow package and 410 axle ratio. We maximized every other option. I plan to put 35’s on it before it leaves the dealer. Hopefully we made a good decision. We have a very heavy boat but are in Fl where it’s flat. Let me know any thoughts.
Great video. I thought about getting a Gladiator but got a 2021 Taco 4x4 instead. I ll be pulling a 15’ Lance that weighs 2,400 lbs this Spring. Got the sway bar, break controller and still have stock tires but I want to get a little bigger ones after the summer. Thanks for your time in making the vid maybe I’ll see ya out in the desert 🌵 sometime (my daughter goes to CSUSD and we’re in Nor Cal).
my experience with Tacoma’s says don’t go up more than 1 size in diameter without regearing. Also buy the absolute lightest wheels you can. The rear brakes are barely adequate stock
Great Video! Fantastic job breaking everything down. Very informative. I’ve been struggling with wanting the Gladiator for towing my new camper in spite of the fact that the towing capacity is so poor. I already own a nicely modified jeep and I just told my wife that it was just like an expensive toy after receiving such disappointing trade in value (trading it, I would end up basically giving away at least $15k worth of upgrades). I still want the Gladiator because when I get to my destination I want the option to be able to unhook and off road or whatever. So, I may be willing to sacrifice or compromise. Still on the fence. Just looked at a really nice F150 Lariat. Far greater towing capacity and much more room and luxury. Anyway, still considering but I find myself waffling constantly. I’m in Illinois but my intention is to travel out west (Colorado, Arizona, Montana, Oregon, Utah, California). Your video pretty much answered most of my questions and concerns. Thank you
Perfect timing for this video, thanks! Very thorough and you covered all the points I was concerned about. I bought a 2021 Gladiator Rubicon and now looking for a trailer to tow with it. Considering the Tab(Nucamp) 400 Boondock or Lance 1575.
Suggest you check out the Rockwood GeoPro 15TB at 2800 lbs hitched up with the Blue Ox sway bars. I pull mine with the F150 5.0 10 speed with trailer mode. Drives like a dream.
On TFL on the Ike, FULLY loaded, that was where they said the issue with the transmission was, not having tow haul. It wasn't great at engine breaking...
Just came across your channel and first video I've watched. Great video and very informative! I have a Ram 1500 currently and have a 17' travel trailer which I tow occasionally in Colorado. Was thinking of getting a gladiator and this video was exactly what I was looking for! Thanks. Great looking Gladiator!
Thanks for another excellent video. I have a 2021 RAM Rebel with the Gen 3 Eco-Diesel. That engine and truck continue to amaze me. I just got over 16 mpg towing our 24ft. Kodiak (~5000 lbs loaded) from Joshua Tree to Vista, CA. We also went up Berdoo Canyon Rd. while we were there, but I'm sure your rig would get up that trail without blinking an eye. Just goes to show, it's all trade offs (off-road, on-road). I only have 2600 miles on the truck though, so reliability is TBD...
Great video on towing with JT. Totally agree that towing with mid size pickup is limited, although you show that it can be done within reason. Problem I have is that MT gets very little attention. I am so disappointed I could not get max tow on sport s mt. I buy my cars for a purpose and being in NE I have little need for rubi. Sport is plenty for beach, mud and snow driving. My off-road is rather gentle, consisting of getting through some beat up dirt roads on the way to fishing or hunting. Now towing was never my priority as I like to go fast and my ATV fits in the bed which is awesome, but max tow on prior jeep kept me in much better shape when 4x4 went on (also mt). I may look into re-gearing if it is not a brain surgery and cost is within reason, same time will add rear lockers. It is still beyond me why Jeep cannot configure my factory order the way I want it.
I own a 2019 Canyon Elevation 4x4 and a 2021 Silverado, I pull a ski boat weighs 3600lbs gross, Canyon has the 3.6 and the Silverado has the 4.3......they both pull pretty good but the wider stance of the full-size makes it more pleasurable. The back end of the Canyon can get squirrley sometimes.
I have a 2021 Mojave and have towed a 12 ft cargo trailer 1800 miles from the midwest to Oregon. Averaged 8 MPG...The truck tows actually pretty well. In the mountains in the west the engine is very underpowered. It always feels like the engine is going to explode...That said I also tow a 19ft teardrop trailer approx 2500 lbs., just needs more power.
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Good video. I have a 21 gladdy willys sport with the diesel. Almost 15k miles and no issues. Fuel milage is outstanding. Highway driving I have averaged 31mpg and city has been 25mpg average.
Should of gotten a hemi v8
Curious how you got 7000 towing capacity on a Rubicon when they are rated at 4500?
According to the dealer you can’t get a max tow package on a Rubi. I have a 23 Gladiator Rubicon
The 6 speed manual transmission with the 3.6 gas engine and 4.10 gears is rated at 4,500 lbs towing.
The 8 speed auto transmission with the 3.6 gas engine and 4.10 gears is rated at 7,000 lbs towing.
Holy crap as many have said this is by far one of the most informative and informational videos on any subject I have ever watched. I watched it for the exact purpose it is titled for but wow the information you put out is so very good. You answered every question I had about towing with my gladiator. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
@@BigRockMoto
Why would you buy a Rubicon (gasser) for mostly highway/towing needs? You should've bought the Mojave EcoDiesel version.
@@travelinman482 you can't get the Mojave with the diesel
@@chrisdonohue3305
What the hell? Why do auto manufacturers make us consumers buy their trim levels? I want to be able to buy any trim level with the EcoDiesel.
@@travelinman482 agreed
This is one of the most informative videos I have ever watched. Good job!
Glad it was helpful!
This was a very well thought out production. I am glad I watched it.
Thank you very much. This was extremely honest and helpful as I’m making g a decision about moving from my F150 w/ 36 halon tank to a Gladiator
Great review and content. Love the closing statement. It is a Jeep, with more towing/payload than a wrangler. It's not a towing truck. That's why us Jeep guys love it. It works for what we use it for. Thanks for the great video.
Right on
Probably never tow with my Gladiator but your videos are super informative and fun to watch. Thanks for all you do.
Glad you like them!
A really level-headed and detailed guide. I don't even tow and I enjoyed watching it.
I’d recommend regearing to a 4:88 if you’re keeping the 35s and towing. I believe it’d help you out a lot.
"regearing to a 4:88"? Do you speak english? Or did you mean "1488"? Because THATS something I can get behind.
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4:88 is correct. That means the drive shaft turns or spins 4 almost 5 times for every one tire revolution 4.8:1
Lol wtf@@calypsohandjack9278
This is an incredibly informative video. Well done. I had a Gladiator Rubicon - and you're exactly right about the fun factor and the personality. You're also spot-on about the modifications negatively impacting towing. I added a 3.5" lift and 37" tires. It made towing a 22 ft. Airstream thru the mountains in CA - just awful. I wanted to upgrade trailers too - which made the Gladiator a deal-breaker. I traded it in for a 3/4 ton diesel.
Anyway - excellent content.
I wish I could have both the gladiator and the 3/4 ton diesel!~
Yup...
I’m considering a Gladiator for my family of 5. This is super helpful! We would probably tow a small gear trailer in the range of 2,500 to 3,500lbs.
I have a Gladiator sport S max tow and i use it to tow my camper. The camper is 4800 dry weight and about 6000 loaded up. I have no issues towing it. Get a good brake controller and weight distribution hitch with sway control. I live in hilly upstate NY and the gladiator does great. It is no speed demon but it does the job just fine.
Wait, the Max tow does *not* come with an integrated brake controller? Really?!
I have a Gladiator Overland that tows a 20 ft. Rpod. We went to the Steens Or, Nevada desert, the CA coast and my driveway which has an area of 12% grade. Absolutely no problems.
Thanks. RPod seems like a great match for the gladiator
I also have a Overland and tow a Rpod but have the ecodiesel engine. No problems at all with the setup.
I forgot to mention that my payload capacity is 1,209 and this is on the door sticker
The Surveyor Legend 19BHLE or RBLE is also a great matchup with the Overland. Its 3800 dry and 4950 loaded. .
Right on the money! Couldn't have had a more accurate and honest opinion backed by real facts. Great Job!
Much appreciated!
I have a 2021 Gladiator Overland and absolutely love it! The ride is great and I tow a 4400lb camper. It will do it but it does rev high.
What did you pay for it? They're $72xxx CDN where I'm from .... so costly
So I just brought a 3500 pound camper and my gladiator overland is rated at 6000 pounds tow capacity. Keeping in mind my Glad is totally stock. I had a weight distribution hitch and trailer brake controller system installed at the dealer. I just brought it home for a two hour drive with some slight grades, and I experienced
the high rpm’s you speak of and it made me a little nervous. It left me feeling I was taxing the engine too much. The tranny did seem to adapt quite well without the tow/drive mode. It was quite stable as far as the general driving experience though. I can definitely see the gas mileage will go down. BUT your video did instill more confidence in its towing ability. Thank you! I will keep it!
I have a 21 gladiator rubicon ecodiesel with over 50000 kms on it now. I have had no problems with the engine yet. I also plow snow with it and I'm not very nice to it, come pair to most people im sure. I am doing a dpf delete on it this week just to open it up more and get better fuel mileage. I'm fairly happy with it. Once all the emissions are delete I'm sure it will run way better.
Jeep should pay you for making this video. It is detailed an honest, and in the end, give people enough confidence to make the purchase if they were on the fence about it like me. Thanks.
Great info! I’m was a full time rv’er in a 41 ft motorhome hauling my 2-door Rubi in a 24’ enclosed car hauler. Because of not being able to get into the national forest campgrounds and always having to pay extra storage fees, I’ve decided to downsize! Yes, it’ll be a huge change but will allow me to go places that I really want to go to! Trailer sizes and weights that the 4-door unlimited can haul just aren’t large enough for me to live in full time!! The Gladiator will give me more options and allow me to continue my off-road adventures which is what I love to do!!!! Thanks again!
I have a 2021 sport just bought a mini max flex 25’8” live in Florida sure hope it works for me. But this is one of the best educational type honest videos regarding the capabilities of a gladiator that I’ve watched yet,thank you sir!!
This is an "outstanding" video for anyone considering buying this vehicle. Great job!
Excellent video. I tow a large pop up camper and was concerned. He covered every issue I had questions about.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for the helpful video! Low end torque is absolutely crucial. Whenever anyone talks about towing without talking about low end torque, I shake my head and say “Let’s pull the reigns back on this horse. Low end torque comes first.” I learned that when towing animals and set pieces for my productions across the French alps.
Perhaps we can do a video where you can share your experiences with towing livestock around Europe and Russia. Cattle are quite heavy
@@BigRockMoto I’d love to take my expertise from the theatrical stage to the virtual stage. Many life lessons learned from handling animals, performers, equipment, and outdoor adventure! Thank you for reading every comment, as you mention above. Attention to detail is truly the mark of a great artiste!
I've watched a lot of your videos about mid and full size trucks you've owned, they are great. Extremely thorough...hope you don't evaluate my house or truck one day!
Great video, I can say after having the eco diesel now for several years it's one of the best engines I've had
Love this channel!
Great thoughtful information to the point with no BS or fluff.
One of the very best channels out there IMHO.
I wish every video was this informative!! Thank you for answering all of the questions I had!
Motor Trend had problems, but I had no problem even without the weight distribution hitch that Jeep recommends when towing over 2k lbs. In my testing it really performed quite well at 4,600 feet of elevation.
I chose the Gladiator for towing my 3.5k lb boat for lots of reasons. Most of which you touched on. I tow, primarily, from the Michigan/Ohio areas north bound into Canada and Minnesota border waters. I don't deal with many huge hills or grades. Nonetheless, big wind is often an issue. I chose the overland high altitude w/the pentastar and 3:73 gears. This combo affords me 20 mpg when not towing the boat vs: 14 mpg while towing. The Gladiators off road abilities are why I chose it over the Ford Ranger. If the Canadian border ever reopens, I will be able to easily reach obscure destinations within the wilderness with relative assuredness of getting in and out safely. Although my driving conditions differ greatly from the ones depicted in this video, the same amount of "homework " was necessary ensuring that the correct vehicle was purchased.
cool thank you for sharing
My Gladiator is the same spec as yours. My camper is Forest River No-Bo 168, an off road camper 3500 lbs fry !
This has to be the most informative video I have seen to date on this truck. You answered every question I had. I have a sport max tow on order and will be pulling a little Casita on the beach at Padre Island. It would weigh 3000 max . I always go half capacity so it doesn't push the truck that much.
You won't have any problem with that.
Great video! You have answered so many questions I’ve had about the Gladiator! Your honest thorough reviews are appreciated! Well Done Sir! 👏
Awesome honest review. You pointed out all the good and not so good about the gladiator. Good job!!!
Great review, thanks for all your effort here! My wife was over in Anza earlier this year for a photo shoot. I think the one grade you did you mentioned Anza. We live over in SE Arizona.
Gearing makes a big difference in the JL/JT. The 8 speed is a nice compensator but when you put in real work, there's no denying the mechanical advantage of proper gears.
Well done, one of few videos that stresses that BOTH towing and payload are very important.
I have a 2023 Jeep Grand Cherokee L. Payload is stated as 1200 pounds, but if you subtract curb weight from GVWR it actually comes out around 1700 pounds of net carrying capacity. Not sure why the difference. Tire load ratings and GAWR's are not exceeded. I double checked my curb weight at the CAT scale and it was spot on the specifications. I use the higher number and double check everything on CAT when we head out with the trailer, including GCWR. Nice videos!
I found your channel recently, thank you. You're knowledgeable, well written, well filmed and so far, (6 videos in) i don't find you to be biased. I enjoy your cadence, pacing, editing, information and quality. Great job. Take my thumbs and sub... AND COMMENTS!
You summed me up at the very end. My wife has a wrangler and I have a 2500 chevy diesel. Along with other vehicles, I'm trying to downsize the amount of vehicles I have, but still have the vehicle that I can use for work and fun. We have a 22ft trailer that weighs 5000lbs wet. Based on what you said, I'm confident the gladiator will do what we want. Thanks for the video. I'm located near temecula so it was cool seeing you drive through Anza.
Very informative video the best one I’ve seen so far on Gladiator towing! Thank you!! I’m still wishing for a 5.7L Hemi in this vehicle!
That would be a good motor for this truck!
Well now they went all out and gave us a 392 Hemi 😂
Or an updated 4.7L V8 that's better at towing than the 3.6L Pentastar but more fuel efficient than the 5.7L Hemi.
I had a lot of questions about towing with this vehicle but none now. Very comprehensive.
Great video! I've got the 3.0L and I'm anxious to see well it tows.
Got a tow video?
A rear camera when ever is a life saver I just bought a new trailer at the ass end of deer season 3 days left and the deers fell off and the is to the instant rear Camera
I saw my deers rolled out somehow
Got my deers back and more importantly prevented a wreck
Worth every penny they are
Wow, awesome tutorial on the gladiator. Thank you and blessed travels.
Well gotta give ya respect sir👍 You seem to pretty much hit the nail on the head pretty squarely. The Gladiator is the ultimate jeep truck toy. Its not designed for serious towing but it can do it decently enough compared to its competition. And thats just a plus when such a capable off road machine can also do regular truck stuff pretty decently. If I could afford one I might give a Gladiator a try. But at my budget Ill have to happily stick with my used 2008 Nissan Frontier crew cab SE 4x4 long bed with 358,000 miles on it. Maybe after I get the Frontier to 600K there will be a used Gladiator out there I could afford. If not Ill just buy another awesome Frontier.
Great info. Thanks for the in depth pros and cons and the comparison between stock and 35" tires of 17" rims was a bonus.
Well this definitely answered my towing questions. My main worry was about getting out of my driveway pulling our 18' car trailer loaded up with the 2 Can-Am Maverick Trails. Going from a F-350 to a Gladiator will be like night and day.
Thanks for all your work on such a comprehensive video.
I am towing a 23-foot Airstream with a Jeep Grand Cherokee with the same 3.6L V6 and have similar issues. My max torque is at 4000 RPM. Cruise control runs about a gear or two too high to get RPM's under 2000 RPM for better fuel economy. This probably puts a lot of stress on the motor and transmission. In Auto mode without cruise control it still seems to favor higher gearing on climbs so I was manually shifting down to get above 3000 RPM. There is no Tow/Haul mode, but I found Sport mode sort of works for that. It favors lower gears to keep RPM's up and holds them longer on climbs. My temps typically run under 210 degrees unless I really ramp up the RPM's. A key consideration is not just tow capacity, but also GCVWR which is the total allowed combined weight of everything. I can't fully load my trailer without exceeding the Jeep's GCVWR with everyone onboard. Watch your tongue weights, payloads, and axle ratings. Use a weight distribution hitch and check everything at a CAT scale. Happy towing!
This is exactly what I needed as I’m looking into a similar size trailer but I want to be able to unhitch and explore in a jeep vs a giant (to me) truck. Actually I wanted a bigger trailer but I think I’m gonna go with 20 ft, 5000 GVWR for that reason. I’ll let you know how it goes! Thank you again!!!
I watched The Fast Lane Truck towing 7,000 pounds up a (Colorado) mountain yesterday with a gasoline max towing Gladiator. That ended all consideration of the vehicle for me. It was pushed all over the place on the way down (but not really commented on) and maxed 45mph on the way up. With a lack of the brake controller a couple of years ago, it all added up to towing misery. I am still looking for another Jeep or Toyota.
EDIT : But after watching your video, it's more reassuring. I just retired last year and the idea of driving more slowly and maybe not using freeways hadn't even occurred to me. In the past (not towing) a 1,000 mile trip was a 1-day trip. Even with a trailer I wouldn't have imagined taking more than 2 days. IDK, I still don't believe the 7,650 GVWR max towing. I want to see the new 2024 Ford Ranger and how that tows and maybe I will wait for the new 2025 4Runner. But thanks for an alternate view of Gladiator towing.
Thank you for making this video. I have the exact same gladiator as you (same color even) except I don't have any customizations. Just the stock Rubicon tires. My family and I two parents and three children ages 9-16 (mentioned because of weight) pulled a 3200# box trailer filled with a 1500# meyers manx and two motorcycles weighing 300# along with other gear from Colorado to Bend Oregon over I70 and back on I80. Total trailer weight was 5,600#. My tongue weight was 700# (I was able to roll the dune buggy back and forth to achieve the tongue weight I wanted). People were about 700# and we had 100# if gear in the back of the truck, so I violated the truck carrying capacity by 300#. The box trailer has a large profile too so we violated the frontal area requirement in the jeep manual.
I was able to do this because of this video. I bought the brake controller and weight distribution hitch and watched the gauges the whole way. The only two issues were that the engine is underpowered as you mention and a differential lock warning light. We could only do 65 mph on the interstates so we got passed by everyone including big trucks (speed limit is 80 mph for most of the way). Also, at 65 mph we were between 3500 and 4500 rpm mostly with jumps to 5500 (though I tried not to have those for too long) and so were getting around 9mpg for average the whole way. The second issue of the warning light seems to be common and seems to be just a faulty sensor. People have had this and the jeep dealers just replace the sensor. I am going to take mine in next week and will see.
Thanks again for this video. without it I would not have even attempted this trip which was awesome and we were able to motor bike and dune buggy in multiple states along the way.
That's a big trailer and I think 🤔 that truck did pretty good 👍 THANKS for sharing 👌
I have a MAX TOW Sport S and tow a 19' travel trailer that comes in around 3800 pounds (add in a bed full of stuff and a passenger as well). No problems at all. Completely stock save for some helper airbags to level the ride when towing. Use a weight distributing hitch with sway control bar. Tows just as well as my GMC Canyon with max tow did, maybe a little better as the transmission doesn't search around for the right gear as much as the Canyon did.
awesome thanks for sharing
Outstanding video…don’t have a gladiator but do have a 2022 Canyon and feel like this video is still applicable. Haven’t towed with mine yet but came to the same conclusion at you for trailer size and weight …under 5k for weight and 18-22 feet, preferably tandem axle as well.
Great video. Thanks for all the time & effort you took to share good info with us.
Made for fun 1st, towing 2nd.
I have a Gladiator Sport, tow package, 6000lb capacity, and I tow an RPod 153. It is 3024 dry, load between 500-700 cargo total weight-me, wife, dog, fresh water, tools, grill, hitch weight, etc. Get 14.5mpg which is a real disappointment. Thought I would get 16-17. It tows real easy, handles the weight with ease, I keep my fresh water tank at half full. Use a Curt Spectrum brake controller. Went small for easy tow. I am going to slightly increase tire size from stock junk 31.5” to 32.5” and go a little more aggressive tread. All in all, pretty happy. I guarantee you will underestimate your weight. Take no chances and weigh your whole rig.
14-15 MPG towing a camper and that much cargo is SPECTACULAR. I've told many moderate and old school setups. It is very difficult to get to that number pulling decent camping trailer and weights. You are lucky.
👍👍 That was definitely a two thumbs up review. Thanks!
Thank you
I have a 2021 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon, I have towed our pontoon boat, works great, abused it once,towing a 29’ toy hauler empty. It did it, but I would say I was at its limits.
WOW ... SURPRISED -- THAT NO JOGGERS .. PASSED YOU
Really appreciate your information and explanations on towing with the Gladiator. We have a 2020 Gladiator Sport S....basic except for the heavy duty tow pkg. We live in Kansas City, MO and have been looking at the Lance 1685. We have watched your vids on the Lance products also. Nice work, we look forward to more.
Glad to help. A suggestion - consider getting the 1985, the crawl over bed on the 1685 is not my favorite thing. However I think you will be pushing your truck to tow it...
2020 JTR, 3.6, 2.5 mopar lift, 37's. Going back to 35's.
1. Did you consider manual shifting in the high revs? Then again, why mess with tuning?
2. I can see the WDS working for your config. Based on my research (my trailer 4800 loaded) a WDS poses a greater risk of bending the trailer frame.
3. I took the leap of faith with wireless b.c.
Thanks so much for this video!
This was an amazing video! I have a 2021 2dr Rubicon but it’s nice to see what my engine and transmission combo could be capable of.
Love the video so glad you did the Borrego grade that’s my go to trial place for a new trailer or truck.
I recently traded my Rebel for a Gladiator Rubicon. A couple of things that hit me after the trade, a LOT less room and not much different MPG. I recently took my Gladiator on a 6 hour road trip, just put on a Smittybuilt XL tent and awning, Go Rhino bed rack, and have a Decked system in the bed, I got about 17-18 mpg going through mountainous areas of Alabama and Georgia. I also notice the lack of low end torque in the V6 after having the V8 in the Ram.
Other than that, I love the Gladiator, I take it overlanding, love the doors and roof can come off. Very capable vehicle if you are planning on doing any off-roading in it
thanks for your honest review on your Jeep Gladiator. have fun and a safe drive.
Thanks you too
THANKS PAL
YOU JUST SAVED ME ALOT OF MONEY.
AFTER WATCHING YOUR VID I WILL JUST KEEP MY RAM 1500 WITH TOW PKG.
I LOVE THE JEEP 2 DR.GLDIATOR IT REMINDS ME OF THE SCRAMBLER.
BUT SADLY IT DOESN'T FIT MY NEEDS.......AGIAN THANKS I OWE YOU A BEER👍
Taking mine out with a trailer next week!
Great video! Very informative and you did a good job laying out the pros and cons. I have a Sport S Max Tow set to arrive this month and am trading in a Ram 1500.
Awesome, thank you!
One thing you should add on the trailer is a TPI system to keep track of your tire pressure
Thanks for the info. I have a Sport S mad tow and am looking for a trailer. You confirmed my thinking that I should stay close to 4000# and about 24’ , we like to go to the Sequois, those grades are killer
I have a Rubicon Launch Edition and pull a 10’ dump trailer with a John Deere 1025R loaded and use a wireless brake controller. The wireless I like because I don’t have to search for the button can keep in my hand. I agree with the motor reviving on inclines but the gladiator is such a versatile vehicle I don’t mind the limits of this truck. I’m pulling about 5700lb.
thanks for sharing
Thxs for the info looking into a travel trailer as well for my Jeep gladiator Rubicon and this was a gem of a video to watch. Probably costed you a fortune to make this video with the cost of gas right now, checks in the mail to help out lol.
I'll watch for the check!
Great video with solid advice.
I purchased a 2019 Ford F150XLT 3.5 Ecoboost with max tow - including mirrors, larger 36 gal tank, etc. To be honest, this is my first Ford product. I grew up in a Toyota household and have always driven a Toyota. The only reason I went with a Ford was mainly due to the fact that I have a 3800 lb trailer I tow from time to time. My 08 4Runner V6 just couldn't keep up.
In owning the truck for the last 4-5 months, I'm just not very impressed with the quality Ford provides at this price point. Originally, I really wanted to get a Gladiator... but it didn't really make sense when looking at the numbers on paper when comparing it to the F150. I've heard opinions all over the place with these mid-size trucks, when it comes to towing.
I just bought a 2020 Gladiator Sport S, 3 inch lift and 35 inch tires and 3.73 gears, for towing a 20 foot R Pod. I previously had, for 8 years, a 2013 JK with the 3.6 pentastar engine. So I am familiar with the engine and driving ( not towing ) steep grades in the western US. The first thing I am doing to it is putting 4.88 gears in it to help compensate for the lack of torque. I looked at tuners, superchargers, etc and it all seemed to came back to first having the right gearing..
Great information about the Gladiator. We are considering towing our 22 foot micro minnie winnebago which is the same size and weight as your Lance. We live in Florida and don't have nearly the amount of elevation that you have out there. So, we would be well within the limits. Also, we Love Jeeps - have owned a few and currently have a Grand Cherokee that is working but would really rather have a Gladiator -
we picked the Sport package over the Rubicon because the Sport had a better towing package.
We tow a small ~2500lb travel trailer with our Wrangler Diesel (non-Rubicon), and it’s a great combo. I barely notice the weight behind and no screaming gas engine, the diesel rarely even needs to downshift. We typically get about 20mpg pulling. I’m looking to add a Gladiator to the stable and having a very hard time locating a diesel in the config I want, so I may have to get a gasser. Thanks for the video which gives some of the pros and cons of that choice.
@ndjedinak I am considering a Wrangler or (maybe) Gladiator and am very much interested in the EcoDiesel. For now I would only be using it to tow an approximately 2200lb pop up. I was wondering if you have had any issues with your Wrangler Diesel? And did you make the switch to the Gladiator?
Hey, Josh! I ended up with a Ram 1500. Predictably, it pulls great. But we still pull out travel trailer with the EcoDiesel Wrangler on occasion, zero problems it’s a great setup. No issues with the Wrangler. We’re still enjoying it!
@@Antwort2und40 Thanks for the info, I have always towed heavier trailers with half ton, 3/4 ton or 1 ton trucks. Little apprehensive about switching to a midsize truck or wrangler. Although I would probably only use it to tow my pop up about 2200lbs, keep my F150 for my larger stuff.
You must be an engineer -- the detail level of your information is off the charts on all of your videos, but presented in an easily digestable manner. Thanks!
Wow, thanks!
Great video! I love all the details and info. Will definitely be watching more of you. Btw, you can go into your steering wheel menu and have the gear you're in displayed in the automatic mode, without having to go into manual. My trailer is 4k dry and my wife hates the high revs of the engine. 🤙
Great informative video. Just bought my 2022 Willys Gladiator, and this video covered all the questions I had. Bought mine because I am a Jeep gut and into the fun factor. It's nice to know I can do some towing with it. Looking into a smal camper for a family of 4 to take into the NC mountains.
The Jeep Rubicon has GCWR (gross combined weight rating) of 12450#. This is the maximum weight of the truck, it’s passengers, it’s options, it’s payload and your trailer weight. The truck weights 5072#, out of the factory doors, and for most manufacturers this includes the driver at 200# so now start adding the other passengers plus your payload (ie the weight of your bed rack system, the tent if you left it on, your new tires etc etc). My suggestion is to go get it weighed with just you in it, this way you know your weight.
Now subtract all this from the 12450# this is what your maximum trailer weight is, I’d put good money it’s no where near the 7000#, I’d take a guess at just over 6000#. 7000# towing capacity is the driver only, no cargo, no wife, no kids, no dogs, no upgrades.
When it comes to towing people look at the numbers like they are carved in stone. I can tow 7000# AND I can haul 1250# AND load me and my 4 buddies in the cab. Then they complain about their trucks towing capacity because they’ve overloaded it by several thousand pounds. This is compounded by RV dealerships that don’t care if your overloaded as long as you buy the biggest trailer possible.
Please be careful when your towing, an overloaded truck is a dangerous vehicle to be on the road. I know in some states and here in Canada, if you are in an accident and found out that you are overloaded you can be charged.
Great post thank you. I do cover a lot of that in my video on towing which is on my channel.
@@BigRockMoto thanks. I saw your other video on towing capacities after I’d posted this comment. I hope people go check it out. 👍👍👍
Great, in-depth video. Thanks for sharing your opinions on towing capacity, and providing real-world examples. I'm in the middle of doing a towing series on the Wrangler JL (an even worse towing vehicle). One of the videos i'm going to do is to compare the v6 to the 4C turbo when towing. Just wondering if you've ever towed with the 4C turbo on the gladiator and if it perfored better at elevation than the Penestar?
For a mid size truck, the Gladiator is great (in most configurations). Obviously it will be lacking compared to most any full size truck. But same holds true for a full size F-150 compared to a F-350. Its all relative.
yep
ya thats what the video said 4 times. thanks for repeating that for me
That truck needs a hemi and towing performance would almost double. I don't mean you could tow more than current ratings, just that it would just be a much better experience towing the same loads. You'd lose a bit more payload, but not as much as with the ED. I got rid of my grand cherokee due to poor towing, it had the same pentastar but for long term durability I would not trust towing your load in your conditions on a regular basis.
I agree
Outstanding video. I have a Ram Rebel and I’m looking to trade it in for a Gladiator. I do have a 31’ camper that I’d have to get rid of due to the towing ability. I could make it work, but I don’t think it’d be wise. The best and most informative idea on the net-thank you!
I recently traded my Rebel for a Gladiator Rubicon. A couple of things that hit me after the trade, a LOT less room and not much different MPG. I recently took my Gladiator on a 6 hours road trip, just put on a Smittybuilt XL tent and awning, Go Rhino bed rack, and have a Decked system in the bed, I got about 17-18 mpg going through mountainous areas of Alabama and Georgia. You will also notice the lack of low end torque in the V6 after having the V8 in the Ram.
Other than that, I love the Gladiator, I take it overlanding, love the doors and roof can come off. Very capable vehicle if you are planning on doing any off-roading in it. I have some videos on my channel if you want to see how I did my Gladiator up.
I tow my boat with an Xterra and it does great, I’m sure this would suit me fine with either engine. Thank you for sharing.
the 3.6 jeep will rev a bit more than the 4.0 in your nissan. My dad has a frontier.
@@BigRockMoto I think you’re probably right, but a dozen times a year for 40-50 miles round trip should do it well. I feel that is what these trucks are designed for in the first place.
This is great to watch. I just ordered the sport S because of the Max Tow package and 410 axle ratio. We maximized every other option. I plan to put 35’s on it before it leaves the dealer. Hopefully we made a good decision. We have a very heavy boat but are in Fl where it’s flat. Let me know any thoughts.
I have a 2022 gladiator and I tow my 18’6” Tahoe boat with no problem
Great video. I thought about getting a Gladiator but got a 2021 Taco 4x4 instead. I ll be pulling a 15’ Lance that weighs 2,400 lbs this Spring. Got the sway bar, break controller and still have stock tires but I want to get a little bigger ones after the summer. Thanks for your time in making the vid maybe I’ll see ya out in the desert 🌵 sometime (my daughter goes to CSUSD and we’re in Nor Cal).
Cool thanks
my experience with Tacoma’s says don’t go up more than 1 size in diameter without regearing. Also buy the absolute lightest wheels you can. The rear brakes are barely adequate stock
Great Video! Fantastic job breaking everything down. Very informative. I’ve been struggling with wanting the Gladiator for towing my new camper in spite of the fact that the towing capacity is so poor. I already own a nicely modified jeep and I just told my wife that it was just like an expensive toy after receiving such disappointing trade in value (trading it, I would end up basically giving away at least $15k worth of upgrades). I still want the Gladiator because when I get to my destination I want the option to be able to unhook and off road or whatever. So, I may be willing to sacrifice or compromise. Still on the fence. Just looked at a really nice F150 Lariat. Far greater towing capacity and much more room and luxury.
Anyway, still considering but I find myself waffling constantly. I’m in Illinois but my intention is to travel out west (Colorado, Arizona, Montana, Oregon, Utah, California).
Your video pretty much answered most of my questions and concerns.
Thank you
Perfect timing for this video, thanks! Very thorough and you covered all the points I was concerned about. I bought a 2021 Gladiator Rubicon and now looking for a trailer to tow with it. Considering the Tab(Nucamp) 400 Boondock or Lance 1575.
Suggest you check out the Rockwood GeoPro 15TB at 2800 lbs hitched up with the Blue Ox sway bars. I pull mine with the F150 5.0 10 speed with trailer mode. Drives like a dream.
Nice review. I’ve been looking at f-150 but I’m now seriously looking at this new Gladiator. Plus there are a few out there vs Fords right now.
i love mine
Just curious how the downhill was. I'd be more worried slowing and stopping then getting up the hill. I'd love to hear your thoughts.
On TFL on the Ike, FULLY loaded, that was where they said the issue with the transmission was, not having tow haul. It wasn't great at engine breaking...
Just came across your channel and first video I've watched. Great video and very informative! I have a Ram 1500 currently and have a 17' travel trailer which I tow occasionally in Colorado. Was thinking of getting a gladiator and this video was exactly what I was looking for! Thanks. Great looking Gladiator!
All I can say is this informative video is excellent !
All I will tow with mine is a small utility trailer, just in town.
Excellent video. It answered all my questions, and more. Thank you.
After hearing about airbags versus load leaveling hitches, i will go with the latter.
Thanks for another excellent video. I have a 2021 RAM Rebel with the Gen 3 Eco-Diesel. That engine and truck continue to amaze me. I just got over 16 mpg towing our 24ft. Kodiak (~5000 lbs loaded) from Joshua Tree to Vista, CA. We also went up Berdoo Canyon Rd. while we were there, but I'm sure your rig would get up that trail without blinking an eye. Just goes to show, it's all trade offs (off-road, on-road). I only have 2600 miles on the truck though, so reliability is TBD...
I was so close to buying that exact truck. Nice choice
@@BigRockMoto I used your velcro solar controller mount idea! Thanks for saving me from overthinking THAT issue!
forced induction is looking pretty fine.... pretty darn fine right now 🤩
I am thinking about a supercharger
@@BigRockMoto Magnuson?
Thank you for the work you put into this. It has been really helpfull.
Great video on towing with JT. Totally agree that towing with mid size pickup is limited, although you show that it can be done within reason.
Problem I have is that MT gets very little attention. I am so disappointed I could not get max tow on sport s mt. I buy my cars for a purpose and being in NE I have little need for rubi. Sport is plenty for beach, mud and snow driving. My off-road is rather gentle, consisting of getting through some beat up dirt roads on the way to fishing or hunting. Now towing was never my priority as I like to go fast and my ATV fits in the bed which is awesome, but max tow on prior jeep kept me in much better shape when 4x4 went on (also mt). I may look into re-gearing if it is not a brain surgery and cost is within reason, same time will add rear lockers. It is still beyond me why Jeep cannot configure my factory order the way I want it.
I own a 2019 Canyon Elevation 4x4 and a 2021 Silverado, I pull a ski boat weighs 3600lbs gross, Canyon has the 3.6 and the Silverado has the 4.3......they both pull pretty good but the wider stance of the full-size makes it more pleasurable. The back end of the Canyon can get squirrley sometimes.
I have a 2021 Mojave and have towed a 12 ft cargo trailer 1800 miles from the midwest to Oregon. Averaged 8 MPG...The truck tows actually pretty well. In the mountains in the west the engine is very underpowered. It always feels like the engine is going to explode...That said I also tow a 19ft teardrop trailer approx 2500 lbs., just needs more power.