Great video. But can I add a comment. (Speaking as 2000 hour real world pilot) the use of flaps in the video needs a few comments. All aircraft have a speed at which it is structurally safe to lower flaps (Vfe) you should not lower flaps above this speed. Different aircraft have different Vfe. But the way you can work it out if you haven’t looked it up in the pilot handbook is to look at the airspeed indicator. See there is a green arc and toward the lower end of the speed there is also a white arc. The top of the white arc is Vfe - the highest speed at which it is safe for the aircraft to lower the flaps. I haven’t flown a C152 for about 20 years and I forget what the Vfe is and watched the video on my phone so it was a bit hard to see what speed was marked in the airspeed indicator. But what I could see was that flaps were applied while the airspeed was above the white arc so way too high. So the pilot should pull back on the throttle first, raise the nose and wait for airspeed to bleed off till you reach Vfe before applying any flaps. The use of sequential multi stages of flaps is not usually used in small General Aviation aircraft. Sequential stated flaps is for heavy stuff like airliners etc. The usual pattern of use in GA is there is a flap stage for normal landing, a stage for cross wind landings and a stage for short field landings. The pilot decides what type of landing is going to be used and the appropriate stage is applied in one hit at the time of initial application and then it’s not changed for the rest of the landing. That tech I would accept isn’t cast in stone and maybe gets taught differently in different places but the Vfe speed and not applying any flaps till reaching Vfe is universal and necessary to stop damage to control surfaces and cables. But other wise very useful video. Cheers
Thank you for such an excellent video. I'm on my 1st week of playing it on my new xbox & this simulator is brilliant but overwhelming. You're much better at explaining it than the Training modules in it. I can't wait for helicopters next year on my xbox version. Thank you again 👍
Training Vid: Trim is the way we have level and smooth flight. Okay now, use trim to level your plane at 5,500 ft and 80 knots airspeed. Ok not quite, but you’ll get better.
Love your videos and they are perfect for me because I also have the Logitech Attack 3 joystick since 2007 which I never used. Back then we didn't have tutorials like this so I never learned how to configure it. It's been sitting in the box it came in since then. You are the best. Thank You.
Awesome video, very helpful, thanks for sharing. I am struggling with the MSFS training routines. The last one on the take off and landing section dictates to maintain a climb rate of 75knt to reach an alt of 6000 or whatever. I have spent countless hours trying but always fail this first leg. Can trim be used to maintain a climb rate on take off?
Thank you, very informative video on trim which is an area usually not covered to this extent (particularly in regard to vertical speed instrument). I usually have to go into external view to look at the Trim control, but now this should be much less. Would be nice if you could provide some detail on the Trim control visible in external view instruments vs what you have shown in this video. Thanks again
@Huddison, I know this is an older video (they've made further changes to the software since this was made), but I was wondering how you manage trim with the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro? I don't mean which buttons, since those are subjective/personal choice; I mean how do you actually get trim to *work*? I've tried several different button configurations, played with settings, sensitivity, etc., and the trim wheel on the MSFS2020 instrument panel is in fact moving --- but the trim WILL NOT HOLD. As soon as I let go of the yoke, the plane starts to descend and the trim percentage starts dropping. I've seen on numerous online forums, including the MSFS2020 forum, people having this exact same issue, even with fancier yoke setups like the Logitech G Flight Yoke System with Throttle Quadrant, Saitek, etc. Since you used a simple Logitech flight stick for this video, I was curious to know if you managed to get trim working (i.e. make it stick, not just adjust and then quit), and if so, how? In other words, if this were cruise control in a car (which I use constantly), it would be like getting the car to the desired speed, pressing the cruise control button, taking your foot off the gas, and the car's speed starts dropping just as if you'd never pressed the cruise control button. (even though a moment before, it registered that you did) If you have any advice, it would be greatly appreciated!)😀 p.s. I'm a newbie to flight sims, only just purchased MSFS2020 four days ago as of the time of this post, and also bought the Logitech Extreme that same day, so I'm brand-new to that controller as well.
No the trim will remain at the setting you adjusted it to. You aircraft will either descend or climb though, depending whether you push or pull your joystick.
@@Huddison in the video, u teach use the nose landing gear to first touch the ground. However I watch many other aircraft like boeing, airbus, use the left and right wing landing gears to touch the ground. Thats meaning of the nose is in upward direction at the last min of landing on the ground
@@user-mfsc-2024 That's because I'm in a light aircraft, like the Cessna 172 and can get away with that type of landing. You are correct: generally you want to 'Flare' the aircraft - i.e. the back wheels touch down first and then bring the nose of the aircraft down gently on the runway.
Hello from Qatar.. watch the video ... the trim portion is not working good with me as my joystick buttons are malfunctioning so I am using key board. ... is throttle is promotional to trim????
You should trim so that you are at or near level flight (not climbing or descending) and use your throttle with light adjustments, to get you to that level.
Thank you very much for this short but indeed very informativ lession regarding trimming.
Thanks for the compliment :)
Great video. But can I add a comment. (Speaking as 2000 hour real world pilot) the use of flaps in the video needs a few comments. All aircraft have a speed at which it is structurally safe to lower flaps (Vfe) you should not lower flaps above this speed. Different aircraft have different Vfe. But the way you can work it out if you haven’t looked it up in the pilot handbook is to look at the airspeed indicator. See there is a green arc and toward the lower end of the speed there is also a white arc. The top of the white arc is Vfe - the highest speed at which it is safe for the aircraft to lower the flaps. I haven’t flown a C152 for about 20 years and I forget what the Vfe is and watched the video on my phone so it was a bit hard to see what speed was marked in the airspeed indicator. But what I could see was that flaps were applied while the airspeed was above the white arc so way too high. So the pilot should pull back on the throttle first, raise the nose and wait for airspeed to bleed off till you reach Vfe before applying any flaps. The use of sequential multi stages of flaps is not usually used in small General Aviation aircraft. Sequential stated flaps is for heavy stuff like airliners etc. The usual pattern of use in GA is there is a flap stage for normal landing, a stage for cross wind landings and a stage for short field landings. The pilot decides what type of landing is going to be used and the appropriate stage is applied in one hit at the time of initial application and then it’s not changed for the rest of the landing. That tech I would accept isn’t cast in stone and maybe gets taught differently in different places but the Vfe speed and not applying any flaps till reaching Vfe is universal and necessary to stop damage to control surfaces and cables. But other wise very useful video. Cheers
Fantastic additional comments! Many thanks 👍
Helpful video suggests how to depart and land nicely using minimal flight sim controls. Thank you so much!
Most welcome.
Fabulous flight and tutorial on using trim and landing. Very informative! Windsor Castle looks great!!
Thanks and the Castle really does with this new update!
That video is invaluable for beginners like me, and the comments from John Martin too. Thanks!
Happy it's useful to you.
Thank you for such an excellent video. I'm on my 1st week of playing it on my new xbox & this simulator is brilliant but overwhelming. You're much better at explaining it than the Training modules in it. I can't wait for helicopters next year on my xbox version. Thank you again 👍
That's a great compliment, thanks Frank 😊
Training Vid:
Trim is the way we have level and smooth flight.
Okay now, use trim to level your plane at 5,500 ft and 80 knots airspeed.
Ok not quite, but you’ll get better.
Love your videos and they are perfect for me because I also have the Logitech Attack 3 joystick since 2007 which I never used. Back then we didn't have tutorials like this so I never learned how to configure it. It's been sitting in the box it came in since then. You are the best. Thank You.
Very much appreciated feedback; thank you ;)
Thanks so much for sharing your tips.
Always, my pleasure ;)
Awesome video, very helpful, thanks for sharing. I am struggling with the MSFS training routines. The last one on the take off and landing section dictates to maintain a climb rate of 75knt to reach an alt of 6000 or whatever. I have spent countless hours trying but always fail this first leg. Can trim be used to maintain a climb rate on take off?
Trim might help, if that particular lesson allows it. Also FLC mode, which allows you to set a specific rate of climb.
Thank you, very informative video on trim which is an area usually not covered to this extent (particularly in regard to vertical speed instrument).
I usually have to go into external view to look at the Trim control, but now this should be much less.
Would be nice if you could provide some detail on the Trim control visible in external view instruments vs what you have shown in this video.
Thanks again
I shall bear this in mind, for future vids.
@@Huddison thank you
@Huddison, I know this is an older video (they've made further changes to the software since this was made), but I was wondering how you manage trim with the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro? I don't mean which buttons, since those are subjective/personal choice; I mean how do you actually get trim to *work*? I've tried several different button configurations, played with settings, sensitivity, etc., and the trim wheel on the MSFS2020 instrument panel is in fact moving --- but the trim WILL NOT HOLD. As soon as I let go of the yoke, the plane starts to descend and the trim percentage starts dropping.
I've seen on numerous online forums, including the MSFS2020 forum, people having this exact same issue, even with fancier yoke setups like the Logitech G Flight Yoke System with Throttle Quadrant, Saitek, etc. Since you used a simple Logitech flight stick for this video, I was curious to know if you managed to get trim working (i.e. make it stick, not just adjust and then quit), and if so, how?
In other words, if this were cruise control in a car (which I use constantly), it would be like getting the car to the desired speed, pressing the cruise control button, taking your foot off the gas, and the car's speed starts dropping just as if you'd never pressed the cruise control button. (even though a moment before, it registered that you did)
If you have any advice, it would be greatly appreciated!)😀
p.s. I'm a newbie to flight sims, only just purchased MSFS2020 four days ago as of the time of this post, and also bought the Logitech Extreme that same day, so I'm brand-new to that controller as well.
Have a quick check in your 'Assistance options\Piloting' and ensure you turn off AI assistance (particularly Trim assistance).
Book landing right there! Alto I haven't read any pilots book.
Thanks mate 😊
If i pull/push the joystick after a trim, will the trim be resetted ?
No the trim will remain at the setting you adjusted it to.
You aircraft will either descend or climb though, depending whether you push or pull your joystick.
@@Huddison in the video, u teach use the nose landing gear to first touch the ground.
However I watch many other aircraft like boeing, airbus, use the left and right wing landing gears to touch the ground. Thats meaning of the nose is in upward direction at the last min of landing on the ground
@@user-mfsc-2024 That's because I'm in a light aircraft, like the Cessna 172 and can get away with that type of landing.
You are correct: generally you want to 'Flare' the aircraft - i.e. the back wheels touch down first and then bring the nose of the aircraft down gently on the runway.
Hello from Qatar.. watch the video ... the trim portion is not working good with me as my joystick buttons are malfunctioning so I am using key board. ... is throttle is promotional to trim????
You should trim so that you are at or near level flight (not climbing or descending) and use your throttle with light adjustments, to get you to that level.