As a blue belt in brazilian jiu jitsu and an orange belt in krav maga, you're right! Street fighting is about quick thinking and tenacity. BJJ is a sport, and this is actually a great technique for the sport. From a self defense point of view, I wouldn't even resort to punches. Elbows, palm strikes and slamming the head into the ground while holding knee on belly position ready to defend against further attacks. Knee on belly gives you the ability to quickly stand up.
I used to think that way until I started learning in the Gi. Bjj is all about options, and learning with the Gi just expands your options. You may not encounter someone with a gi on the street, but jackets are possible. And most people wear jeans, there's lots of guard passing and sweeps that take advantage of holding the fabric of the pants. If you're wearing a jacket and your attacker isn't, you can still do an Ezekiel choke using your own sleeves. Like I said, options.
I've been using this since the day I found it and it is GOLD! Having that arm trapped gives my opponent such a sense of panic that whatever they were thinking or planning is completely shut down. All they can think of is "OMG! My arm! Give me back my arm!" lol But what I love the most about this technique is that there is an armbar situation half way through the move. And if it all fails, and you get tipped over, as long as you keep that arm wrap, you can swing your leg over it and you have a deep traingle already setup.
Draculino is an amazing teacher !!! I get his techniques with almost the first explanation he does. It's a sign that he has good teaching skills as well. Thank you for sharing
Thanks for this technique! The moves in the episode of "Rolled Up" with Professor Draculino were also great (especially the kimura from top half-guard) - but most impressive was listening to his philosophy on teaching - "It's my duty to ensure my students are better than me...because if they aren't, then the art doesn't evolve. And their students should be better than them, and so on." Incredibly positive and healthy attitude. Keep up the great work!
The IJF International Judo Federation call this Tomoe Jime (albeit this is a slight varient) The Kodokan Judo Institute name it kata juji jime,or in English "Half cross strangle." The varients without a uniform are hadaka jime or naked strangle or kote jime...
Yes. Kano sensei trained in Kito ryu jiujitsu, and also had teaching certificate in Tenjin Shin'yō-ryū. He popularized judo giving many jujitsu teachers jobs, in high schools coaching the new method (Kano Jujitsu or now known as judo) when jujitsu waas in decline due to modernisation pressures.
Please look up/research video on those schools to get a view of waht Japanese jujitsu forms looked like. It is very different to BJJ and judo in format.
As a BJJ practitioner I must say that it's all good. Gi....is good. No gi... is good. Rubber Guard is good in both i find, but so is traditional guard. Just learn everything and then there is no room for error no matter what your opponent is wearing. It all comes down to how much you really love the art.
For sure, for sure - they are both correct! They are just variations of the same choke so it's all good! Andre Galvao tried this choke many many times on Professor Ryron in their match a few months back.
-That is a very intricate choke. Lethal. Very similar to a lot of the Kali Dumog that I do with my students. I like the fact that the arm is completely trapped.
I used to think the same thing. I grew up in Florida, USA, where it is always warm and we wear short pants and tshirts everyday. Now I live in New York City, where it is often cold and men wear coats that would work the same as a gi. It can be good to know both, depending on where you live.
There's space between his head and Professor Draculino's groin, It might look like he can bite because of the gi but he cannot, he is completely immobilized. Even if he could it takes a pretty slight modification to take that away from him. You can also knee him in the face as you come around and or crossface with the knee/shin. Baseball chokes tend to black people out before they're all the way on. You'll probably have about a second or two after he completes it if you're really tough.
That's usually because most BJJ schools train more the sport side than the self-defense side. It's still there in the art, just not emphasized as much. If you watch Rener's video about Bjj in Self defense, he explains in depth the place of Bjj in a self-defense situation, keeping proper distance, staying off the ground, engaging multiple attackers, etc. It's the same thing for wrestlers though, they don't train locks as much and train more for the pin, but there's plenty of locks in the art.
After understanding what you meant by "GI" being General infantry, this makes more sense now, lol. In which case I agree with you. In a battlefield, you wouldn't stay on the ground, you'd do whatever you can to get off the ground and stay standing. Bjj still applies here though, concepts are the same, people just forget to train for these situations and only train the sport-side.
Very, very nice technique, I am going to drill that a 1000 times and see how it works for me. I am wondering if he also has an armlock the minute he puts his knee on the guy's chest?
odds are also he wont be wearing a thick winter jacket, but you should prepare for the worst and thats using hooks and leverage like in no-gi where your technique will work no matter what they are wearing
Don't worry about that. I've done countless and countless matches against BJJ practitioner, and they are always amazed of how quick they are taken out when you don't respect their rules. I've converted many of them to join my style when they realised how oppened they were in the BJJ ground positions, as they taking BJJ for self-defense purpose. The others, well, were only interrested in competitions, so weel they stuck with BJJ.
... ennemies on the battlefield, you have to end him quicly and the most efficiensly possible in order to keep the control of your surrounding and protect yourself. You can't afford to loose time by focusing 1 minutes on just one guy. Furthermore, the only one lying on the ground should always be your ennemy. The style taught to the american Gi was Kano's Judo-ryu Ju-jutsu, a school of Ju-jutsu that was totaly different from modern sport Judo. What have been taught to Gi is Ju-jutsu, my style.
The arm bar was well set up bear you're right. I guess it's going to be there if you lose grip for the choke and therefore have another option. I suppose in Gi ju jitsu choking out is lots of fun haha. Happy tapping m8!
I can get this choke sometimes, but what if they tuck their chin in really tight and block the choke? I can smash their jaw and crank their neck but I am not trying to be a jerk. Any advice on how to deal with that in a friendly practice?
your hands and forearms should be facing both sides of the opponents neck. the lapell should be facing the back of the head. if the opponent tuck his chin in, it shouldnt be a problem, because the choke is blocking his blood on it's way to the brain, by squeezing both sides of the neck, not the throat.
Some lapel chokes can put nasty pressure on the jaw at different angles, and, IF someone were to really lay into it, could possibly injure the jaw (i.e. dislocation or fractures) so there's often enough pressure/pain to warrant a tap in my experience. My point being that dropping the chin is not necessarily a good defense/idea for a couple reasons, one Lucas mentioned already that, dropped chin or not, their getting choked out. If you're getting choked--chin down or not--you screwed up a few steps ago, and it's time to tap out if you have no viable counter or escape. I generally know when I could really hurt my training partner by going overboard, so I err on the side of caution. Always glad to see folks ditching their pride and looking out for their training partners :)
We call that a tournament technique. In a tournament, as long as you stay in the rules you want to get the tap even if it means being a little bit of a jerk. But in class, you want to focus on best technique and not beat up your training partners too much :)
So, im watching videos on TH-cam and I have no idea how I ended up here, but that,s a really cool video by the way. Anyway, I do not know anything abotut martial arts, so I,m gonna ask a stupid question : is it legal to trap your oponent like with his gear like what he did with the dude's right arm?
+GB Neto Absolutely. In BJJ these are referred to as lapel or gi chokes, as the "suit" they are wearing is called a lapel or gi. The use of the lapel to not only control but threaten your opponent is a basic, initially learned skill, but as you can see with this choke, it is used in prevailing expert level attacks as well.
keep in the mind these techniques are done in such a way so as to be trainable and do not necessarily represent the way they would be done to an assailant. were we to train them that way we would quickly run out of training partners.
how much is it to join this school per month???? i have tried the free lesson back when you guys had the old location on Eldorado i just didn't have the time to join but i should now for this summer. i think they told me about $150 but i don't remember if that was with the gi included.
You can do a standing loop choke if someone's wearing a jacket. And I'd rather pull guard and sweep someone who knocked me down than get mounted and pounded.
Don't worry, I know my ground. I'm a practitioner of Ju-jutsu since 21 years, so I've done BJJ like ground fighting even before BJJ was cool (and I'm not in america, the Ju-jutsu in my country is as real as Gracie JJ, if you're interested I can tell you the story). What I was wondering is that if your army corp really taught you to take 1 minute in order to take out a guy on the ground. It's not batlefield ready. You can't afford to take so much time on the ground when there is others...
you have both of his arms trapped making it difficult for him to turn his shoulders and hips toward or away from you, so a shrimp/hip-escape would not be feasible. I would look into escapes from the crucifix position because your arms are trapped in much the same way
As a blue belt in brazilian jiu jitsu and an orange belt in krav maga, you're right! Street fighting is about quick thinking and tenacity. BJJ is a sport, and this is actually a great technique for the sport. From a self defense point of view, I wouldn't even resort to punches. Elbows, palm strikes and slamming the head into the ground while holding knee on belly position ready to defend against further attacks. Knee on belly gives you the ability to quickly stand up.
I used to think that way until I started learning in the Gi. Bjj is all about options, and learning with the Gi just expands your options. You may not encounter someone with a gi on the street, but jackets are possible. And most people wear jeans, there's lots of guard passing and sweeps that take advantage of holding the fabric of the pants. If you're wearing a jacket and your attacker isn't, you can still do an Ezekiel choke using your own sleeves. Like I said, options.
I've been using this since the day I found it and it is GOLD! Having that arm trapped gives my opponent such a sense of panic that whatever they were thinking or planning is completely shut down. All they can think of is "OMG! My arm! Give me back my arm!" lol But what I love the most about this technique is that there is an armbar situation half way through the move. And if it all fails, and you get tipped over, as long as you keep that arm wrap, you can swing your leg over it and you have a deep traingle already setup.
-I've watched this video at least ten times in the last two weeks. I really admire this guy's teaching style. A lot of control. Very precise.
I think that is the coolest choke I've ever seen. And I've forgotten what an awesome teacher Draculino is...
Draculino is an amazing teacher !!! I get his techniques with almost the first explanation he does. It's a sign that he has good teaching skills as well. Thank you for sharing
Very good detail and well explained with a strong voice to get the point across . Good teacher
This is still gold in 2019!!!
Try 2045 too
Old school still the best school
Thanks for this technique! The moves in the episode of "Rolled Up" with Professor Draculino were also great (especially the kimura from top half-guard) - but most impressive was listening to his philosophy on teaching - "It's my duty to ensure my students are better than me...because if they aren't, then the art doesn't evolve. And their students should be better than them, and so on." Incredibly positive and healthy attitude. Keep up the great work!
The IJF International Judo Federation call this Tomoe Jime (albeit this is a slight varient)
The Kodokan Judo Institute name it kata juji jime,or in English "Half cross strangle."
The varients without a uniform are hadaka jime or naked strangle or kote jime...
+All about JUDO that's because bjj comes from kodokan judo
I think you will find Jiujitsu started somewhere around the 16th century. Kokodan Judo was founded in 1882.
Yes. Kano sensei trained in Kito ryu jiujitsu, and also had teaching certificate in Tenjin Shin'yō-ryū. He popularized judo giving many jujitsu teachers jobs, in high schools coaching the new method (Kano Jujitsu or now known as judo) when jujitsu waas in decline due to modernisation pressures.
Please look up/research video on those schools to get a view of waht Japanese jujitsu forms looked like.
It is very different to BJJ and judo in format.
Amazing video Draculino - thanks for sharing!
As a BJJ practitioner I must say that it's all good. Gi....is good. No gi... is good. Rubber Guard is good in both i find, but so is traditional guard. Just learn everything and then there is no room for error no matter what your opponent is wearing. It all comes down to how much you really love the art.
this guy moves smooth as hell
really nice. Got to love Draculino
For sure, for sure - they are both correct! They are just variations of the same choke so it's all good! Andre Galvao tried this choke many many times on Professor Ryron in their match a few months back.
His movement is remarkable! I hope to one day be that fluid.
Awesome! I saw Professor Robin Gracie do this technique with a standing base as well! Both are tighter than you can imagine without feeling it.
This is such a cool move! Obrigado Draculino!!
Punches or palm strikes I would say is a matter of preference, but you're right about knee on belly being a good position for self defence.
So many details! Hope I get to train with you again Master!
-That is a very intricate choke. Lethal. Very similar to a lot of the Kali Dumog that I do with my students. I like the fact that the arm is completely trapped.
Damn that's brutal but perfectly executed, thanks for sharing.
I used to think the same thing. I grew up in Florida, USA, where it is always warm and we wear short pants and tshirts everyday. Now I live in New York City, where it is often cold and men wear coats that would work the same as a gi. It can be good to know both, depending on where you live.
good teaching love it...i love the baseball choke this is another awesome way to follow it on! thank you.
Draculino sou seu fã! Parabéns pelo trabalho!
Mother of god...jiu-jitsu tears, such a beautifull choke!
There's space between his head and Professor Draculino's groin, It might look like he can bite because of the gi but he cannot, he is completely immobilized. Even if he could it takes a pretty slight modification to take that away from him. You can also knee him in the face as you come around and or crossface with the knee/shin. Baseball chokes tend to black people out before they're all the way on. You'll probably have about a second or two after he completes it if you're really tough.
Beautiful ! Thanks for the post.
Grande mestre Draculino!!! Bom demais
That's usually because most BJJ schools train more the sport side than the self-defense side. It's still there in the art, just not emphasized as much. If you watch Rener's video about Bjj in Self defense, he explains in depth the place of Bjj in a self-defense situation, keeping proper distance, staying off the ground, engaging multiple attackers, etc.
It's the same thing for wrestlers though, they don't train locks as much and train more for the pin, but there's plenty of locks in the art.
1:22, "So I'm goona go over, BOOM!..." LOL. He is having so much fun teaching! That's what you need in a teacher.
Love the way these guys shhhpeak
Beautiful choke!!!
Draculino is sick!!!
After understanding what you meant by "GI" being General infantry, this makes more sense now, lol. In which case I agree with you. In a battlefield, you wouldn't stay on the ground, you'd do whatever you can to get off the ground and stay standing. Bjj still applies here though, concepts are the same, people just forget to train for these situations and only train the sport-side.
I love Draculino.
I cannot believe this video ONLY has 4.5K views.
I agree . .very sneaky!
Thanks, I'm going to try this next open mat :-)
thank you for sharing......good stuff
Beautiful. Looks like you could get a nice wrist lock on his trapped arm from there as well.
AWESOME!!!!!!
Very, very nice technique, I am going to drill that a 1000 times and see how it works for me. I am wondering if he also has an armlock the minute he puts his knee on the guy's chest?
great technique....im gonna try this on one of the guys i roll with and how it goes
"It's a bad one right here..." Love it!!!
never gets old :)
quem tem o conhecimento tem o poder né, parabéns sensei OSS
Who is Draculino's teacher? Respect. He teaches well. Ossu.
nice! first time I've seen a samurai choke. . . I love going north south, it's the easiest, especially when the other guy is very defensive
Great choke!
damn i hate missin out on this stuff!!! sweet technique/video dude, ill find a way up there soon.
Keep up the Awesome vids!
I like your videos. Great technique and very good explained. Only that loud noise of the camera (krr klck, krr klck) is a bit disruptive.
lol i was wondering what that sound was, is the camera made of thin crinkly plastic or something? Although it is kind of soothing tbh.
Awesome!
odds are also he wont be wearing a thick winter jacket, but you should prepare for the worst and thats using hooks and leverage like in no-gi where your technique will work no matter what they are wearing
that was a very complicated lapel choke. but effective
Brilliant!!
Wish you put out more no-gi videos
Damn. I feel im taking Professor Drac for granted with him in texas and not making the most of it.
Nice technique.
Most people say,too complicated techniques are forgotten
amazing
Don't worry about that.
I've done countless and countless matches against BJJ practitioner, and they are always amazed of how quick they are taken out when you don't respect their rules.
I've converted many of them to join my style when they realised how oppened they were in the BJJ ground positions, as they taking BJJ for self-defense purpose.
The others, well, were only interrested in competitions, so weel they stuck with BJJ.
im gunna use it in my upcomming tournament
... ennemies on the battlefield, you have to end him quicly and the most efficiensly possible in order to keep the control of your surrounding and protect yourself.
You can't afford to loose time by focusing 1 minutes on just one guy. Furthermore, the only one lying on the ground should always be your ennemy.
The style taught to the american Gi was Kano's Judo-ryu Ju-jutsu, a school of Ju-jutsu that was totaly different from modern sport Judo. What have been taught to Gi is Ju-jutsu, my style.
Good stuff!! I wish I lived near a Jits school!!
nice, very japanese in the choke and brazilian in the groundwork application.
Fala draculino ! Meu brother
The arm bar was well set up bear you're right. I guess it's going to be there if you lose grip for the choke and therefore have another option. I suppose in Gi ju jitsu choking out is lots of fun haha. Happy tapping m8!
awesome
I can get this choke sometimes, but what if they tuck their chin in really tight and block the choke? I can smash their jaw and crank their neck but I am not trying to be a jerk. Any advice on how to deal with that in a friendly practice?
Good point, I guess if I want to be nice I will just bring the pressure on slow
your hands and forearms should be facing both sides of the opponents neck. the lapell should be facing the back of the head. if the opponent tuck his chin in, it shouldnt be a problem, because the choke is blocking his blood on it's way to the brain, by squeezing both sides of the neck, not the throat.
Some lapel chokes can put nasty pressure on the jaw at different angles, and, IF someone were to really lay into it, could possibly injure the jaw (i.e. dislocation or fractures) so there's often enough pressure/pain to warrant a tap in my experience. My point being that dropping the chin is not necessarily a good defense/idea for a couple reasons, one Lucas mentioned already that, dropped chin or not, their getting choked out. If you're getting choked--chin down or not--you screwed up a few steps ago, and it's time to tap out if you have no viable counter or escape. I generally know when I could really hurt my training partner by going overboard, so I err on the side of caution. Always glad to see folks ditching their pride and looking out for their training partners :)
Squeeze and they will tap my friend
We call that a tournament technique. In a tournament, as long as you stay in the rules you want to get the tap even if it means being a little bit of a jerk. But in class, you want to focus on best technique and not beat up your training partners too much :)
What is the choke called where you take the lapel under the arm? I can't seem to find it anywhere.
bow and arrow?
So, im watching videos on TH-cam and I have no idea how I ended up here, but that,s a really cool video by the way. Anyway, I do not know anything abotut martial arts, so I,m gonna ask a stupid question : is it legal to trap your oponent like with his gear like what he did with the dude's right arm?
+GB Neto Yes it is. Its legal to play around with the uniform except for using the belt to choke
+GB Neto Absolutely. In BJJ these are referred to as lapel or gi chokes, as the "suit" they are wearing is called a lapel or gi. The use of the lapel to not only control but threaten your opponent is a basic, initially learned skill, but as you can see with this choke, it is used in prevailing expert level attacks as well.
thats a very detailed choke-plenty of steps
Thats a good move
BJJ going around the house as always.
keep in the mind these techniques are done in such a way so as to be trainable and do not necessarily represent the way they would be done to an assailant. were we to train them that way we would quickly run out of training partners.
Good!...Very good!...
OSS!
Yup, Gi jujitsu, Judo, Classic Jujutsu and of course Brazilian
You should show a way to do this with just a regular T shirt, I don't wear a gi and I would really like to try this.
Awesome move! :)
rodrigo you can use it in white.belt
Is this legal in a BJJ fight to use your opponents clothing to trap their arms or use it for chokes?
training for a for F2W thank you
how much is it to join this school per month???? i have tried the free lesson back when you guys had the old location on Eldorado i just didn't have the time to join but i should now for this summer. i think they told me about $150 but i don't remember if that was with the gi included.
You can do a standing loop choke if someone's wearing a jacket. And I'd rather pull guard and sweep someone who knocked me down than get mounted and pounded.
What a beautiful joke. It's like art.
Nice
veryyyy nice!
bravo!
Don't worry, I know my ground. I'm a practitioner of Ju-jutsu since 21 years, so I've done BJJ like ground fighting even before BJJ was cool (and I'm not in america, the Ju-jutsu in my country is as real as Gracie JJ, if you're interested I can tell you the story).
What I was wondering is that if your army corp really taught you to take 1 minute in order to take out a guy on the ground. It's not batlefield ready. You can't afford to take so much time on the ground when there is others...
One minute??? Uh, try 4 seconds.
cool)) thanks
muito bom !! oss
Thx for teh vid!
Ima try this without the Gi on the next SW class.
BOOOOOM !!
It's just an option. It's a tool in the toolbox. If the guy isn't wearing a gi or jacket, don't attempt to use this choke.
Difference between this and baseball choke?
you have both of his arms trapped making it difficult for him to turn his shoulders and hips toward or away from you, so a shrimp/hip-escape would not be feasible. I would look into escapes from the crucifix position because your arms are trapped in much the same way
sweet