I think Makishima is not only a villan in Psycho-Pass; in a certain sense he is also a protagonist. Makishima, Akane, and Kogami represent three different attitudes towards the Sybil system: rebellion, reform, and escape. They are equally important.
The three attitudes you describe are what shape their characters, their philosophies may better be categorized as post-structuralist libertarian (Makishima), Liberal Democrat (Akane) and maybe Deontologist (Kogami). I have studied philosophy and recently watched it again and I must say they are very complex characters, especially Kogami and Makishima, they reference so many traditions that you can't exactly pin point them, but that is part of what I think makes them so great.
Although it's quite notable how Makishima loses interest in the other antagonists, I've never realized till now about his facial expressions when talking to them. Loved the video!
@@ProfessorViral Your mind must be infinitely strong to withstand all those images over and over. If you are so hardcore on justice go solve a police case no one has, go to schools and help the bullied, go to prison and revise cases again and again. Do it actively, not just waiting for it to cross by.
No other ''villain' has come close to Makishima for me. Makishima's ideals are explained in a sympathetic manner, and the slow drip of his philosophy is character building done right. The writers knew exactly when to hit the climax button and make his perspective fully understood. On a side note, Makishima is a futuristic Ted Kaczynski, I would have lost my shit if they threw in a scene where Makishima was reading Technological Slavery.
When Makashima says only those who can kill from their own free will can judge him I believe there is a strong Nietzschean influence. Makashima has transcended society's values and determined his own. Only those who have done the same can judge him. Makashima despises humanity acting as sheep, not only completely being chained by societies ideals but further ceding personal ethics and decisions to some "AI" God, the ultimate opposite of determining one's own ideals and making one's own decisions. Imo he is still an evil guy but his consistent, coherent and impactful philosophy makes him a great antagonist, one we want to root for.
There is definitely Nietzsche in there, but there is so much more. There is Derrida and deconstruction, Foucault and discipline, Baudrillard and so much Continental philosophy.
Man what a great analysis. I love how you go into the minor details without over analyzing to the point where it sounds like bs. How you looked into his actions and a dialogue in conjunction really helped expose Makishima’s intentions and greater purpose.
unfortunately this misses the mark. the reason makishima kills the other antagonists isnt because he isnt giving them a chance to change, its because he's trying to change japan as a whole by giving them free will, he has no reason to waste his time on people that may or may not change because after sybil is gone they will ALL regain free will anyway. your mistake is you assume makishima and akane has similar values but they dont. makishima simply places no value on human life, that is all there is to it, if makishima and akane talked to each other, nothing would change because this isn't a contrast between their beliefs about free will, it's a contrast between their value of human life. in fact, this is shown perfectly in their first interaction. akane couldn't pass his test and shoot him because their perspective on humans simply had too great a gap for them to reach a understanding. and the reason they never have another "conversation" is because their wasnt anything more to discuss after she failed the test
The last segment of your analysis about Makashima's death and the quote "It was just an idea" just brings me the memories of the movie V for Vendetta where the main character believed that no matter how many people you kill and what evidence you snuff out of existence, ideas cannot be destroyed.
V for Vendetta is actually somewhat of a low-key guilty pleasure movie for me. It's cheesy and takes some weird turns, but I love V as a "hero" who's willing to mentally destroy those around him to accomplish his goal
@@ProfessorViral eventhough it overlooks a lot of points, some themes which are present makes you think, though they may not be presented very realistically. I think it is interesting that the whole reason society assigns a government to itself is to breed some sort of unity and to prevent us from just killing each other off by differences we find in others. The reason I believe the last scene was so impactful because people opposed what was not just a government but something that could be the only reason they could be united. So what we see is a large number of people putting aside their life, something they would want to protect at all costs, to an idea. That I believe is something impactful. Anywayss you are the first popular youtuber to have replied to my comment so thank you ^_^ and I really love a lot of your analysis and thoughts. Please keep doing what you do!
Very true point. Also, thank you for watching and commenting! I always like to respond because the discussion around points is my favorite thing about what I do, so I love to see what you all think, and talk to you about it as well. And, without you all I would just be a mad man talking to his wall about anime haha. But, I'll keep it up, don't worry! : D (also, sorry for the late second response, replies to comments I make are harder for me to find than fresh comments T_T )
Makishima was the best part of PP, I have a feeling that originally anime was his story, and when he died it was supposed to be the end (like most of good dystopia stories end with protagonist's death while the system continue to exist) but creators desided to milk franchise more...
PLEASE make more of these Psycho-Pass videos. I couldn't agree more that PP is one of, if not the most sophisticated anime ever made. Spot on analysis of Makishima and the series as well!
My thoughts exactly! S1 is amazing! I love the philosophical aspects of it. I was binge watching PP/S1 because it was so enthralling. The thought provoking questions Makishima raises and his food for thought makes PP outstanding and unique in the animesphere.
One thing I don't see people pointing out often is how similar his philosophy is to Akanes. In the first episode, Akane demonstrates her own ability to make choices based on her own free will by shooting Kogami. Some people would call her naive, but her optimism is never misplaced. If Akane's decision was a news article, there would be tons of comments criticizing her for not simply complying and shooting the woman who was a "potential danger to society", and that she "failed to put her emotions aside", but there's nothing illogical about what she chose. In fact, she's proven right by the end of the second episode when the woman she saved ended up recovering and being able to reintegrate herself into society. Just like Makeshima, Akane thinks for herself instead of letting preconceived notions cloud her judgment. However, Makeshima doesn't give people the chance to change. While Akane accepts the flaws of the people around her and believes that anyone can change and start to follow their own free will so long as they're alive (case in point, Ginoza, Mika, Kogami, etc), Makeshima thinks of them as basically already dead. This is just a personal theory, but I believe Makeshimas CC won't increase during his murders, because he believes that being enslaved by societies standards and/or your own preconceived notions is no different from already being dead. By my own arbitrary standards, I'd say Akane has the "superior" philosophy. It makes perfect sense that Kogami and Akane become more like each other, rather than Makeshima. I think it's pretty tragic that Makeshima never got to have a real conversation with Akane. He would've definitely appreciated the challenge to his previous way of thinking and maybe regret being so quick to judge her as naive, just like a lot of people did while watching psychopass for the first time.
It is an interesting note that Makishima dies without them ever really conversing, each having what they think of the other in mind, and not who they are. It's an interesting theory on Makishima's CC as well, it seems possible within the lore of the anime and criminally asymptomatic people being characterized as usually quite psychopathic. While I agree with Akane more than anyone else in the series, I have to say Makishima did see potential in people prior to discarding them. He's harsh and goes with his own whims at the end of the day, but I do believe he was looking for someone and something genuine at the start of his interactions
I've just seen another video analyzing psycho pass and it noted that makshima actually ended up appreciating Akane in the last episode where he's escaping and Akane behind him shooting with a regular gun rather than the dominator since it doesn't work on makshima, the truck in which is makshima collapsed and Akane passed out so makshima ran away... The question is why didn't he use Akane's gun to murder her? It wouldn't have taken time nor effort since she was already unconscious, he didn't kill her because he realised that Akane was the kind of citizen he wanted to see, the one who makes their own decision so he spared her life. I hope it makes sense
That's probably because they are both in certain ways liberal. Makishima is a sort of libertarian who does not believe the state should monopolize justice and make summary executions. He actually discards that "painter" girl probably because she symbolizes the rationalistic state (you can read Isaiah Berlin's two concepts of freedom if you want to understand this better). Akane on the other hand is a much more democratic liberal in the sense that she believes the state only has its authority to coerce people inasmuch as it protects the people's rights to peace, justice and liberty (especially peace and maybe least of all liberty).
I loved Makishima's character and I found his ideals intriguing, he just basically wanted the people to have their own sense of individuality or something similar. Sybil was ultimately the thing that hindered that and I think that is what displeased him. To have almost no one to question this system but himself only made that displeasement more prominent. He is an antihero in some way and I really loved his "rivalry" with Kogami.
@ProfessorViral Lelouch is an anti-hero, Johan Leibert is also one of the greatest villains in anime. I highly suggest Code Geass and Monster. I'd be happy if you make a vid about those, too.
@@kylacruz2888 Code Geass isn't very good though. Lelouch has the most op ability, which is pretty much limitless. Also, Lelouch is pretty much the opposite of Makishima. He controls people to do his bidding. Taking their free will away from them.
This is my favorite anime too! And Makishima might just be my favorite anime character of all time. I'm so glad to see someone else discussing this anime, and Makishima. I'd really love to see more Psycho-Pass videos from you. Perhaps one discussing Makishima's scene with Akane in Episode 11.
I'll take any excuse to talk more about Makishima haha. I don't have anything specific planned for the future, but I'm sure something will come to mind eventually, and likely will touch on episode 11 since it's such a prolific scene
Makishima Shogo is one of the best anime villains ever along with Lelouch vi Britannia and Light Yagami. I really wish people would talk about Psycho Pass more. It's one of the best anime out there. SPOILER AHEAD. BE WARNED! I really wished Makishima shogo didn't die in season 1 but they just had to keep bringing him back for little scenes here and there because he was just that good.
We need more villains like Makishima and the others you said as well. They make for some of the best anime. I actually just finished Code Geass season 1, and Lelouch definitely makes it, like Makishima does Psycho-Pass
I just finished ss1 of the anime and I was actually rooting for the villain...idk what that says about me or my character but i really wish he didn't die.😪
I feel like when Kogami said "I sure hope not" to Makishima's final question, he meant it more as dark humour/irony. As in "Will you ever find someone to replace me?" Kogami: "Well shįt I hope not, you've given me enough trouble already, the last thing I want is to have to chase down some other lunatic as bad as you!"
He will always be my favorite villain. I remember binging this when I was a teenager and agreed with his viewpoints. He left such a remarkable impression.
I just binged on psycho-pass 1 & 2 and the movie. (Thank you pandemic and crazy snow storm) I really love this anime! It really makes you think and I like the Minority Report vibes. I loved the first season. ❤️ I liked the second season even tho I missed Kogami and Makishima. It would be hard for any story to come back after that season one perfection! I never even heard of PP until I watched Terror in Resonance. I googled it and someone suggested PP. Thanks for the videos!
Yeah, this is about the best time to binge some anime. I hope you're doing okay with everything going on! But, I'm glad you liked Psycho-Pass and the videos as well! : D
Amazing video dude, you've gotten a sub from me. Finished Psycho Pass the other night and no other anime has been as thought-provoking or morally grey. An absolute masterpiece with no "good guy" or "villain." Sure, Makishima is painted as the antagonist to an extent, but if the anime were described as some guy fighting against the system in a dystopia, wouldn't the MWPSB be the antagonist? I just love how nothing about this show is morally clear and that there is no correct answer. Makishima is by far the best "villain" I have ever seen.
Finished it a couple of days ago, could not agree more with all of your statements, Kougami is my favorite from the anime personally but Makishima is close second definitely.
I loved Makishima the most. Akane was my second favorite after that professor and hacker. Hated kougami. He was too shallow and without conviction the more I repeated the show. Just a dog chasing something.
Phenomenal analysis. There’s so much to unpack about it. One of the most fascinating and well executed characters I’ve seen. I came across your channel recently and subbed, looking forward to the rest of your videos👍. Awesome vid
Psycho-Pass also became one of my fave anime after I watched it last year. I think it's really brilliant. The plot, soundtrack, world building, character development... my compliments to the chef! It made me think about things and sometimes I'm stuck in a dilemma. The only thing I hate about the anime is that they killed my boy Kagari. And yes, Makishima is the best villain of all time for me. 🤧
It's likely always going to be my number one anime. It does so much, so well, and in a neat and clean way. Every character develops not just into someone interesting, but someone interesting with respect to each other, the world, the plot, and even more. It really is A+ production
@@ProfessorViral thanks for the video! I love how you explained things without over analyzing. Are you, perhaps, a Philosophy or Psychology major? Looking forward to more Psycho-Pass video from you. 🤗
I can't say how many times i watch psycho pass season 1 i love the main. Antagonist and his logic he is so relatable to alot of people including myself
Makishima is a close second for me after Johan, both are great villains, I want to mention "Friend" from 20th Century Boys whose written from the same author of Monster, Naoki Urasawa
there was a lot of time from the last time i saw this anime. I forgot a lot of name. but Shogo Makishima, that name i will remebered like one of the best villain that i saw.
i mean.. is makishima really even a villain? he’s a little dark and twisted, yeah, but if the show was centred around him as the protagonist then people would see that sybil is the true villain.. also i just finished watching season 1 for a second time and i can’t stop crying??? sos
One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter. And since the Sybill system basically represents one of the worst dystopias (obviously just my opinion) he definitely is on the freedom fighter side for me.
Shogo AND the Sibyl System are BOTH the villain. Shogo is similar to The Hunger Game's character Coin in how she sees the evil system her society is trapped in, and seeks to free people from it. However, she goes about achieving this goal in a cruel fashion. In this way, Coin is to Snow as Shogo is to Sibyl. Evil vs. Evil, both are the villain.
I think Makashima is meant to be a representation of what Akane would/could be if she were on the other side of the law. Both of them always have a perfect psycho-pass, despite what happens to them/what they do. In fact, Makashima and others may be unique with them being criminally asymptomatic, but i think Sybyl is so scared of Akane because she has the power of the criminally asymptotic, but isn't actually a criminal/latent one herself, she's even more rare as far as we know. Whilst the Psycho-pass seems to judge her okay, it doesn't matter what she does, her hue is never clouded & it always remains at body temperature, even when shown images of a dead relative. If anybody else were to meddle the way she did/does, they'd get too stressed and get clouded. Similarly to that bitch inspector with the freckles that freaked out when she found out the truth. She licked the chief's boots and wagged her tail, but Akane remained herself and stood her ground, with an unchanging hue, despite initial stress & her shaking. I think her ability to remain herself amongst adversity is her strongest trait. Anyway, I went off topic. I think Akane & Makashima are two sides of the same coin, however, Kogami is the coin itself, or, if you like, the edge of the coin. He harbours the best qualities of both of them. Makashima is meant to represent a moral dilemma in my opinion. I believe it comes down to Actus Reus and Men's Rea (actions & intentions in cases of the law). In the case if murder, Actus Reus would be the physical act of killing. However, Men's Rea woild ve the intention. Killing without Men's Rea would be considered man slaughter, and result in a lesser sentence (just for anybody that doesn't know). Makashima embodies both of these. He purposely executed violent acts and terrorism, with intent to do exactly what happens. However, he represents what it's like to be a sociopath/psychopath. He has no empathy, he does not have the capability/capacity to feel love or empathy towards others, he feels nothing is wrong when he murders people due to it contributing to his lofty goals, or it being a case of sacrificing the few for the many. However, he is doing these things for an extremely good reason, as Sybyl is a sci-fi version of a dictator, more or less. He is challenging this dictator due to the fact he is aware that Sybyl cannot scan him, as in his head, killing isn't inherently a bad thing. With him being how he is, he makes the most of his "ability." People like this exist in the real world, too. When it comes to the detectives, Kogami embodies the part of the law that's concerned about Actus Reus, he does not forgive Makashima for his actions, and seeks judgement. Also, in the same scope, he also embodies Actus Reus himself, as he is aleays acting on impulse, and doing things to the extreme. However, in the same vain, Akane embodies Men's Rea, the intention. She understands Makashima is a terrible person for what he has done, and hates him. However, she doesn't want him dead, she just wants to do what she believes is right and carry out her own version of justice, moreso because she understands exactly why he is doing what he is. She is more concerned with having him taken in, getting answers from him, and also, stopping Kogami from killing him, as that would have him be labelled an actual criminal. Akane's intentions are what matter the most to her and others around her, as they are unique, and she approaches everything with rationale and fortitude, but isn't a loose cannon, like Kogami. However, the dilemma is, what is the right way to punish Makashima? Not only is he a sociopath, so he doesn't feel empathy, making what killing is for most, very different to him. But, also, what he is doing, he is doing for a very good reason. Society is opressed by a dictator, and he wants to investigate/stop/challenge it. From our perspective, there's little wrong with his overarching goal, as nobody likes a dictator. But, again, it would plunge society into chaos if he were successful, and he has dine terrible things. But, when you think about it, I think he only directly kills two people (may be more i have forgotten)... Other than that, he just incites people's inner will, and causes violence by proxy. So, there's the Men's Rea, but not the Actus Reus. When it comes down to his most heinous acts, he intends thek to take place, however, he either just observes, or, tags along. So, like i said, what would, in the real world, be the right way to punish somebody like this? Do they deserve to be executed, or, should they he locked up? This is my take on it anyway, I doubt the creators were thinking this when making it, but I believe it can certainly be interpreted this way.
Great analysis! I'm gonna watch your Kogami analysis now, as he's my favorite character in the entire franchise. :D I wonder if there's a list or something similar where all the intellectual and philosophical works that are being mentioned throughout season 1/the entire anime are listed? Would love to know!
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed! 😄 I know there's a list of the works Makishima references (on Anime News Network I think?), but I'm unsure if there's one for the entire anime
Hi and thanks for your fast reply! I actually found a solid goodreads list that contains nearly all the aforementioned works. I, obviously, ended up binging way more of your content :P. I'm personally wondering whether you have read/caught up on any of the books mentioned throughout the franchise, as it seems that PP is your favorite anime of all time :D
Kind of off topic, but I would absolutely love to hear a debate between the two greatest antagonists in anime- Makishima and Johan Liebert from Monster considering how similar, yet different they are
Johan doesn't Care about human life, he didn't need a dumb freewill philosophy to justify his killings unlike makishima, he wanted tenma to kill him because tenma believed that every single life is important...Johan wanted to die but only if the pure tenma, the only person who ever manifested love for Johan was the one pulling the trigger...people Say Johan was nihilist but it's not exact, he Cared about tenma so much...he wanted to corrupt his ideals...
@@ProfessorViral check Monster out, either watch the anime or read the manga, the great plot twists, the character reveals will keep you on edge, and Johan being the mystery of Monster, will keep you intrigued.
God damm, after watching many times I am understand points-(I think). Thanks for analysis, I like your analysis videos , because I think your analysis have point and valid reasoning. Not many TH-camrs make analysis videos with valid reasoning and observations of that a series(may be because those videos don't get enough or many views). So, thanks for your work
I would consider Makishima's alignment to be Chaotic Good. It might seem a strange choice to call such a cold blooded murderer Good but after taking time to think about why he spent so much time undermining people's belief in the Sibyl system it became clear that had he skipped that step, not exposing the flaws in the system and simply gone about destroying the foundation of it then that would have meant certain doom for all the brainwashed citizens who had no time to consider thinking for themselves. Ironically by using terrible criminals as pawns to expose the cracks in Sibyls enforcement it would have resulted in more people being prepared for the downfall of society. Of course bringing about the downfall of society is inherently comes with very terrible consequences, that is what accounts for Akane's resistance of his plan also being Good despite the fact that it requires upholding an Evil status quo. Because both sides are fighting with an ends justify the means mentality it can thus be stated objectively that the winning side is Good and the losing side is Evil, but on an individual level both Akane and Makishima are Good until somebody wins while the collective group they represent are both Evil.
Makishima is definitely up there definitely top 5 villians in anime but I'd say johan liebert (the monster) is the best villian in all of anime, and probably one of the best in all of fiction
Basically he's a critic looking at the fundamental flaws of an absolute doctrine adopted by a relative system. The system is made by and made out of the human mind. But human's don't understand itself half as well as our subconscious does. So he basically acknowledge there's things we don't understand and by taking this artificial truth as absolute, they've denied a core part of every individual. Many people are simply complacent and goes with the flock. But others are wired differently, like autism. They see differently, think differently, they're wired differently. So they see different patterns normal people can't.
New to your channel. I love your videos so far and this is the best breakdown of Makishima Shogo I have seen, but please, please, do something about the light glare bouncing off your glasses right into the camera. It's sensory murder for me. Stay cool ProfessorViral.
Makishima is the best character of psycho pass in my opinion, or at least he is one of the best villain anime world could ever have. His personality, ideology, qualities such as reading fiction novels are just amazing. His ideas were too extreme as well as his actions. But he is the kind of villain who is not much hateable.
The fact that he's a psychopathic killer who wants to destroy society with no plan for a better world, and is still as likeable as he is, is a testament to Urobutchers writing
Ever heard of Johan Liebert? Takasugi Shinsuke? Meruem? Sure, I agree. Makishima is like the villian who should be hero, and one of the best. But these guys are the G.O.A.Ts as well
Smartest psychopaths ever 1. Makishima Shogo 2. Hannibal 3. Johan Liebert There have been a lot of fictional characters described as psychopaths and incredibly smart and well read and ive watched them all. Makashima Shogo is the closest thing to a perfect psychopath.
@@ProfessorViral Sure, just a little info on both. Hannibal is the greatest villian/antagonist in the literature history, Sir Anothony Hopkins won an oscar for portraying Hannibal in the 91 (movie- silence of the lambs) also check out Hannibal TV series 2013, if you liked psycho pass you're gonna love it, lastly Johan Liebert is the principal antagonist in the anime Monster. Little slow story but great anime.
I see similarities between him and johan liebert from monster, just in the philosophical style of motive for their entire life, they probably differ greatly though, im not able to analyze it correctly right now, both good animes. Fate/Zero is my favourite anime of all though and it was written by the same author that made psycho pass.
These societies arent wrong in themselves, but they encapsulate a wide range of people. If you want to live in a Siybl world, go right head; if you prefer a monarchy, oligarchy, communism then fine. Just dont drag anyone along with you. I feel like if we could pick the type of society we prefer, people would be alot happier.
Just going through TH-cam videos for Psycho Pass now and you have tons of them. After listening to the first sentence of this video, I understand why. Should I watch season 2 and 3? I've heard mixed opinions
I think stopping at S1 is the best way to go. S2 is disappointing for trying to be the original with half the episodes, and S3 really changes into a different series, but then brings back elements of S1 for fanservice, giving a large cast without much for those tertiary characters to do. But, if you really like the world, there is MUCH more media post season one, that can be enjoyed if you're able to detach it from season one somewhat
@@ProfessorViral awesome, what a quick answer. As someone who is craving for more Psycho Pass I'll hold myself back and not tarnish the memory of a perfect show. Thank you
It was a downgrade to go from someone who acted on their own developed ideals, against their own benefit, to someone opting for revenge and also some ideal. Thanks for stopping back, and the kind words!
I used to think that Makishima was just a murder obsessed man who was a humanist on the side. That he did believe in free will, but only a specific kind. Sort of something like this: when he says he wants to see the splendor of man’s soul, he only meant that he wanted to see the dark side of people. I’ve rewatched PP, and I don’t think that’s entirely the case anymore. I still think he mostly means that he wants to see the dark side of man’s soul. However in this world, how many people are actually able to explore those sides? If at all? In PP’s world, people who even think of exploring the darker sides of their personality is rare. Most people on this world are happy, bland, cheerful, and just living like livestock without a care in the world. I sometimes wonder what Makishima would think of people with morals (in the show, we see him commit atrocities without a blink of an eye. Maybe he does have morals in some capacity since the people he kills are deemed worthless by him, but any morals he might have are likely few). What I mean by a person with morals is a person who accepts the dark sides of humanity, acknowledges that they aren’t all good and happy and definitely has dark thoughts, yet still empathizes with people and believes to give everyone (well, excluding people they believe are bad) a chance. In a nutshell, a person who loves and wants to protect humanity despite the atrocities we can commit. Would Makishima be impressed? Disgusted? Curious? I’m not really sure. Oh god this got long, but rambles usually do
That's a pretty bold claim my friend. Psycho pass is definitely a masterpiece, no doubt about that. However, the best anime ever made? While I can't deny it's in the running for that title, Steins;Gate is definitely it's strongest contender. Since we both have a fair amount of knowledge of both shows, I think it would be really fun to have a debate about their merits and flaws.
Johan Liebert is a another animal he's a abused child turn sociopath doing everything aimlessly kinda anarchistic. But on the other hand Makashima had clear goal and vision behind his action. While monster is a good anime Johan is not better villain then Makashima.
@@ProfessorViral it's been two years, you're missing out a gem, same happened to me until I finally decided that it was about time. and man the regret for not watching it sooner was too heavy
Excellent video! I loved your analysis of Makishima. Self reflection is something I try to avoid but Shogo hit a chord and introduced me to a different perspective. There's also a small bookworm bias there, ahah. ;) Definitely my favorite anime character so far. I'm looking forward to more of your content. Subbed! x
Thank you! I'm super happy to provide a bit more of your favorite character for you, he's for sure mine as well. I'm glad you decided to stick around as well, hope you like the other videos! : D
It's sad, that to find what he always wanted, a real connection and free will, he had to die at Kogami's hands. It wraps everything up so well, but so somberly
@@ProfessorViral That is an interpretation that i didn't think of. Interesting. But i think i felt 'sad' not because i liked his personality, or him being intellectual nor because he was morally good (which he was not of course). His ideals resonated with me - a person who values freedom above all else. And even though he was the antagonist - i felt his final course was the right one.
We all feel a (synthetic) sympathy for Makishima when he goes against Sibyl, we kind of want him to destroy the system, because I think we do appreciate just how right he is about the rationalistic state. It might make sense from a consequentialist point of view but it feels so fake, like a simulacrum of an ideal society.
I've only seen once (and in questionable quality I found on my phone). But I don't get how he can be 'disappointed' in their choices if that's what they really want to do. Wouldn't he still be tolerant of their limited goals? Even if they're not as high concept and ambitious as his? 🤔 idk, he just comes off as an a**hole to me
It's because what he's seeking is something greater than personal goals. Rikako only wants to imitate the success of her father, Masatake only wants comfort, and Senguji the thrill of death. They don't have a greater meaning to their actions, just themselves. Gu-sung is the one who receives his praise though, because he uses his ambition to try and change society. So, it's not really about doing what they want, but why they even want to do it
Your opinion on Senguji is completely off. When his hunt is interrupted and it finally becomes dangerous, that is the first and only time he shows any kind of interest and serious emotion. And he not only shows excitement, he very specifically states that he is not to be saved if he loses. Hes bored with the stale same hunts and wants the prey to be a danger, hes not looking for the safe boring kill, hes looking for the exciting factor of unpredictability. This is why Makishima actually goes to some lengths to get him to open up, albeit without much success as hes interested in whats inside the mans head.
That's a topic I could take either side of, but he does take the role of a villain against the main characters, so I do consider him one narratively at least
@@ProfessorViral There are many Great "villains" in anime with simillar formula to Makishima . Like Makoto Shishio from Rurouni Kenshin . Don''t remember the exact quote but Kenshin said something along the lines : We are just as evil to them as they were to us . They did what they truly believed in , and so do we , it's just a matter of perception .
psycho pass for me was one of those times where i wanted to chill and watch something without thinking to get super excited and confused, so makishima seemed just like a huge pissy bitch to me, hot fictional guys who do horrible things always annoy me, because it seems no matter what the fuck they do - people are still gonna piss their pants about hot hot and charismatic they are. guess i have to watch again now with my thinking glasses on with a more cool head
Police: hey u are under arrest Person: for what? Police: for thinking abt killing. Person: I just thought abt it out of anger it doesn't mean am going to do it. Police: Refuser to co- operate will lead to ur death. Person: am not Police: shots claims is self defense from a criminal. Logic of psycho pass
I think Makishima was right all along, kogami is the villain and akane is so bland, trying to be perfect, she imitates makishima's goal in the newest movie. It sucks he was shot and after him the plot kinda became dull and now they are wrapping it up several seasons later just that akane reaches the conclusion he did in s1
no one would want to be watched by Johan that's for sure, he's the monster himself, there's a reason why most of Monster characters are scared of him, even with the mention of him
I would have instantly said 100% before, but I always find myself becoming more like Akane over time. But, I think I would still push for more, like Makishima to at least hope the change came quicker
While I'm no expert on the term and it's implications, I think what makes me hold him in a high regard still is the fact that he didn't seek to set a new system in place, but simply rid the world of one he hated. You could argue he was vying for a "natural" system in it's place, but he never specifically outlines a goal other than what he believes to be the best interest for the concept of humanity. He openly admits he has no idea what lies on the other side of his plan
You do have a fundemental misunderstanding of the Sybil system. It doesn't actively oppress free will, it facilitates a path for each individual to lead a happy life. Also, if you read any beginner-level neuroscience, you'd seriously question what free will is & wether it's real or not. I recommend Robert Sapolsky's Introduction to Human Behavior course or Stanford's YT channel. Sybil is the good guys here, they're maximizing happiness, & they want to create a perfect society where every individual lives their best, they don't exhibit any kind of hunger for power or control. So, the outcome & the intent are good (although, the intent doesn't matter AT ALL) Makishima's philosophy is the one that's outdated. He's the one creating pain, killing people & regressing his country from humanity's scientific achievements in truley understanding ourselves Edit: Literally after posting this comment I see a recommended video of yours titled "Sybil,: Not The Evil One"... This is just sensationalism for you isn't it, you don't really care about that system
No, I can't say I care about Sibyl, since it's just a system from the anime. An anime I love every part of, but I won't say I care about Sibyl. It's clear from what's presented to us that Sibyl actively discourages free will. Not to mention its clear corruption, in overriding its own rulings and giving special treatment to a man who broke it's own ideals of safety. If you said we disagreed on ethical philosophy, I'd agree with you, because it's clear we're taking opposite stances. But I don't think I misunderstand the system. I'm also not talking about it for sensationalism, I just want to share content about an anime I love
@@ProfessorViral I see. It's not about just anime for me, it's the real world. A lot of neuroscientists explained how our current legal systems ignore almost 80 years of neuroscientific progress, driving most of humanity into misery & prohibiting actual progress. Maintaining this illusion of free will isn't the issue, writing laws based on that illusion & dictating people's lives is. I'm disappointed by your apathy since Psychopass is much more than anime to me, it's a promise (if things go well, in the long run)
@@Nylon-xj9ml Sibyl might facilitate a general fleeting happiness, but I believe where you are wrong is that this is the best state a human could achieve. It seems quite evident to me, and Makishima understands this at the very least, that humans should push for meaningfulness in there life rather than happiness. Only through struggle, strife, and conviction in their own choices can this be achieved by someone. Whether that is an illusion or free will is true is a somewhat irrelevant debate though due to the fact we really have no way of knowing. Now let me give you some leeway the Sibyl system works as a great suggestive tool, but fails as a executive body. Instead of being the god of the world it should simply be a tool used to make the citizens lives better.
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I think Makishima is not only a villan in Psycho-Pass; in a certain sense he is also a protagonist. Makishima, Akane, and Kogami represent three different attitudes towards the Sybil system: rebellion, reform, and escape. They are equally important.
The three attitudes you describe are what shape their characters, their philosophies may better be categorized as post-structuralist libertarian (Makishima), Liberal Democrat (Akane) and maybe Deontologist (Kogami). I have studied philosophy and recently watched it again and I must say they are very complex characters, especially Kogami and Makishima, they reference so many traditions that you can't exactly pin point them, but that is part of what I think makes them so great.
With the death of one ie makashima, psycho pass 2 nd 3 isn't the same..
I'm a simple woman, I see a Psycho-Pass video, I click like. Love this anime.
Glad I was able to give you a bit more Psycho-Pass! : D
Im simple to
I'm a simple man, I see someone make this joke, I click like. Love this meme 😆
You're a simple woman commenting on an anime that is not simple at all
Although it's quite notable how Makishima loses interest in the other antagonists, I've never realized till now about his facial expressions when talking to them. Loved the video!
I just totally fell in love with this anime
Same. I could watch it every month and probably never get bored of it
Agreed! It's masterful and has a wealth of soul
@@ProfessorViral Your mind must be infinitely strong to withstand all those images over and over. If you are so hardcore on justice go solve a police case no one has, go to schools and help the bullied, go to prison and revise cases again and again. Do it actively, not just waiting for it to cross by.
No other ''villain' has come close to Makishima for me. Makishima's ideals are explained in a sympathetic manner, and the slow drip of his philosophy is character building done right. The writers knew exactly when to hit the climax button and make his perspective fully understood.
On a side note, Makishima is a futuristic Ted Kaczynski, I would have lost my shit if they threw in a scene where Makishima was reading Technological Slavery.
Watch Monster
@@TheHellBoy05 I have not get but I will put that on my list !
Death note are like this bro
Griffith
@@st8vie282 Griffith is brilliant as well!
When Makashima says only those who can kill from their own free will can judge him I believe there is a strong Nietzschean influence. Makashima has transcended society's values and determined his own. Only those who have done the same can judge him. Makashima despises humanity acting as sheep, not only completely being chained by societies ideals but further ceding personal ethics and decisions to some "AI" God, the ultimate opposite of determining one's own ideals and making one's own decisions. Imo he is still an evil guy but his consistent, coherent and impactful philosophy makes him a great antagonist, one we want to root for.
There is definitely Nietzsche in there, but there is so much more. There is Derrida and deconstruction, Foucault and discipline, Baudrillard and so much Continental philosophy.
Man what a great analysis. I love how you go into the minor details without over analyzing to the point where it sounds like bs. How you looked into his actions and a dialogue in conjunction really helped expose Makishima’s intentions and greater purpose.
Thank you for the nice comment, and I'm glad you enjoyed! I'm also happy to see it didn't come off as over analytical, I was slightly worried there
unfortunately this misses the mark. the reason makishima kills the other antagonists isnt because he isnt giving them a chance to change, its because he's trying to change japan as a whole by giving them free will, he has no reason to waste his time on people that may or may not change because after sybil is gone they will ALL regain free will anyway. your mistake is you assume makishima and akane has similar values but they dont. makishima simply places no value on human life, that is all there is to it, if makishima and akane talked to each other, nothing would change because this isn't a contrast between their beliefs about free will, it's a contrast between their value of human life. in fact, this is shown perfectly in their first interaction. akane couldn't pass his test and shoot him because their perspective on humans simply had too great a gap for them to reach a understanding. and the reason they never have another "conversation" is because their wasnt anything more to discuss after she failed the test
Very good video, I wish more people would talk about psycho pass.
Thanks! I do to, it's such a great anime that has a lot to talk about as well
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The last segment of your analysis about Makashima's death and the quote "It was just an idea" just brings me the memories of the movie V for Vendetta where the main character believed that no matter how many people you kill and what evidence you snuff out of existence, ideas cannot be destroyed.
V for Vendetta is actually somewhat of a low-key guilty pleasure movie for me. It's cheesy and takes some weird turns, but I love V as a "hero" who's willing to mentally destroy those around him to accomplish his goal
@@ProfessorViral eventhough it overlooks a lot of points, some themes which are present makes you think, though they may not be presented very realistically.
I think it is interesting that the whole reason society assigns a government to itself is to breed some sort of unity and to prevent us from just killing each other off by differences we find in others. The reason I believe the last scene was so impactful because people opposed what was not just a government but something that could be the only reason they could be united. So what we see is a large number of people putting aside their life, something they would want to protect at all costs, to an idea. That I believe is something impactful.
Anywayss you are the first popular youtuber to have replied to my comment so thank you ^_^ and I really love a lot of your analysis and thoughts. Please keep doing what you do!
Very true point. Also, thank you for watching and commenting! I always like to respond because the discussion around points is my favorite thing about what I do, so I love to see what you all think, and talk to you about it as well. And, without you all I would just be a mad man talking to his wall about anime haha. But, I'll keep it up, don't worry! : D (also, sorry for the late second response, replies to comments I make are harder for me to find than fresh comments T_T )
I can hardly explain the feelings I get whenever I watch this anime. I love it so much.
Same here, I could talk about it all day!
Makishima was the best part of PP, I have a feeling that originally anime was his story, and when he died it was supposed to be the end (like most of good dystopia stories end with protagonist's death while the system continue to exist) but creators desided to milk franchise more...
Honestly I didn't even watch anything past S1. S1 was perfect and complete in my eyes
@@cajeb5396 tbf the film is good rest is mediocre
If we assume that what makes a piece of a series canon is the original author then the only true continuation there is, is the first movie.
PLEASE make more of these Psycho-Pass videos. I couldn't agree more that PP is one of, if not the most sophisticated anime ever made. Spot on analysis of Makishima and the series as well!
Thanks! I'm always searching for more to talk about with Psycho-Pass, so hopefully I'll have something new eventually!
There was a lot of thought that went into the first season.
100%. And with the compact focus of the anime it's all apparent as well, and nothing gets lost under the rest
My thoughts exactly! S1 is amazing! I love the philosophical aspects of it. I was binge watching PP/S1 because it was so enthralling. The thought provoking questions Makishima raises and his food for thought makes PP outstanding and unique in the animesphere.
One thing I don't see people pointing out often is how similar his philosophy is to Akanes.
In the first episode, Akane demonstrates her own ability to make choices based on her own free will by shooting Kogami.
Some people would call her naive, but her optimism is never misplaced. If Akane's decision was a news article, there would be tons of comments criticizing her for not simply complying and shooting the woman who was a "potential danger to society", and that she "failed to put her emotions aside", but there's nothing illogical about what she chose.
In fact, she's proven right by the end of the second episode when the woman she saved ended up recovering and being able to reintegrate herself into society.
Just like Makeshima, Akane thinks for herself instead of letting preconceived notions cloud her judgment.
However, Makeshima doesn't give people the chance to change. While Akane accepts the flaws of the people around her and believes that anyone can change and start to follow their own free will so long as they're alive (case in point, Ginoza, Mika, Kogami, etc), Makeshima thinks of them as basically already dead.
This is just a personal theory, but I believe Makeshimas CC won't increase during his murders, because he believes that being enslaved by societies standards and/or your own preconceived notions is no different from already being dead.
By my own arbitrary standards, I'd say Akane has the "superior" philosophy. It makes perfect sense that Kogami and Akane become more like each other, rather than Makeshima.
I think it's pretty tragic that Makeshima never got to have a real conversation with Akane. He would've definitely appreciated the challenge to his previous way of thinking and maybe regret being so quick to judge her as naive, just like a lot of people did while watching psychopass for the first time.
It is an interesting note that Makishima dies without them ever really conversing, each having what they think of the other in mind, and not who they are. It's an interesting theory on Makishima's CC as well, it seems possible within the lore of the anime and criminally asymptomatic people being characterized as usually quite psychopathic. While I agree with Akane more than anyone else in the series, I have to say Makishima did see potential in people prior to discarding them. He's harsh and goes with his own whims at the end of the day, but I do believe he was looking for someone and something genuine at the start of his interactions
@@ProfessorViral Makeshima could be really use a lesson or two on patience huh? Lol
I've just seen another video analyzing psycho pass and it noted that makshima actually ended up appreciating Akane in the last episode where he's escaping and Akane behind him shooting with a regular gun rather than the dominator since it doesn't work on makshima, the truck in which is makshima collapsed and Akane passed out so makshima ran away... The question is why didn't he use Akane's gun to murder her? It wouldn't have taken time nor effort since she was already unconscious, he didn't kill her because he realised that Akane was the kind of citizen he wanted to see, the one who makes their own decision so he spared her life. I hope it makes sense
That's probably because they are both in certain ways liberal. Makishima is a sort of libertarian who does not believe the state should monopolize justice and make summary executions. He actually discards that "painter" girl probably because she symbolizes the rationalistic state (you can read Isaiah Berlin's two concepts of freedom if you want to understand this better).
Akane on the other hand is a much more democratic liberal in the sense that she believes the state only has its authority to coerce people inasmuch as it protects the people's rights to peace, justice and liberty (especially peace and maybe least of all liberty).
I loved Makishima's character and I found his ideals intriguing, he just basically wanted the people to have their own sense of individuality or something similar. Sybil was ultimately the thing that hindered that and I think that is what displeased him. To have almost no one to question this system but himself only made that displeasement more prominent. He is an antihero in some way and I really loved his "rivalry" with Kogami.
Psycho-Pass really is the best shit ever. Makishima is such an interesting villain.
Agree 100% on this!
Shogo Makishima, Lelouch Lamperouge and Johan Leibert are my favorite anime characters
I've actually only seen Psycho-Pass out of those 3 anime, but if they have similar elements villain-wise I'll have to check them out!
@ProfessorViral Lelouch is an anti-hero, Johan Leibert is also one of the greatest villains in anime. I highly suggest Code Geass and Monster. I'd be happy if you make a vid about those, too.
Monster and code geass is just so amazing
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@@kylacruz2888 Code Geass isn't very good though. Lelouch has the most op ability, which is pretty much limitless. Also, Lelouch is pretty much the opposite of Makishima. He controls people to do his bidding. Taking their free will away from them.
This is my favorite anime too! And Makishima might just be my favorite anime character of all time. I'm so glad to see someone else discussing this anime, and Makishima.
I'd really love to see more Psycho-Pass videos from you. Perhaps one discussing Makishima's scene with Akane in Episode 11.
I'll take any excuse to talk more about Makishima haha. I don't have anything specific planned for the future, but I'm sure something will come to mind eventually, and likely will touch on episode 11 since it's such a prolific scene
Makishima Shogo is one of the best anime villains ever along with Lelouch vi Britannia and Light Yagami. I really wish people would talk about Psycho Pass more. It's one of the best anime out there.
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I really wished Makishima shogo didn't die in season 1 but they just had to keep bringing him back for little scenes here and there because he was just that good.
We need more villains like Makishima and the others you said as well. They make for some of the best anime. I actually just finished Code Geass season 1, and Lelouch definitely makes it, like Makishima does Psycho-Pass
I just finished ss1 of the anime and I was actually rooting for the villain...idk what that says about me or my character but i really wish he didn't die.😪
Sometimes you just gotta root for the villain. That's why I love morally grey anime so much haha
What about Johan Liebert from the anime,"Monster?"
@@HazbinCovenWitch bleh
I feel like when Kogami said "I sure hope not" to Makishima's final question, he meant it more as dark humour/irony. As in "Will you ever find someone to replace me?" Kogami: "Well shįt I hope not, you've given me enough trouble already, the last thing I want is to have to chase down some other lunatic as bad as you!"
He will always be my favorite villain. I remember binging this when I was a teenager and agreed with his viewpoints. He left such a remarkable impression.
I just binged on psycho-pass 1 & 2 and the movie. (Thank you pandemic and crazy snow storm) I really love this anime! It really makes you think and I like the Minority Report vibes. I loved the first season. ❤️ I liked the second season even tho I missed Kogami and Makishima. It would be hard for any story to come back after that season one perfection! I never even heard of PP until I watched Terror in Resonance. I googled it and someone suggested PP. Thanks for the videos!
Yeah, this is about the best time to binge some anime. I hope you're doing okay with everything going on! But, I'm glad you liked Psycho-Pass and the videos as well! : D
Amazing video dude, you've gotten a sub from me.
Finished Psycho Pass the other night and no other anime has been as thought-provoking or morally grey. An absolute masterpiece with no "good guy" or "villain." Sure, Makishima is painted as the antagonist to an extent, but if the anime were described as some guy fighting against the system in a dystopia, wouldn't the MWPSB be the antagonist? I just love how nothing about this show is morally clear and that there is no correct answer. Makishima is by far the best "villain" I have ever seen.
Finished it a couple of days ago, could not agree more with all of your statements, Kougami is my favorite from the anime personally but Makishima is close second definitely.
My rankings are swapped, but I'm 100% bias with Makishima haha
I loved Makishima the most. Akane was my second favorite after that professor and hacker. Hated kougami. He was too shallow and without conviction the more I repeated the show. Just a dog chasing something.
Phenomenal analysis. There’s so much to unpack about it. One of the most fascinating and well executed characters I’ve seen. I came across your channel recently and subbed, looking forward to the rest of your videos👍. Awesome vid
Thank you so much! I'm happy to see you enjoyed the video, and I'm glad you're sticking around : D
Shogo Makishima is to anime what Heath Ledger's Joker is to movies.
I don't know movies enough to know if this is good or bad honestly
@@ProfessorViral it’s good lol heath ledger is legendary
Psycho-Pass also became one of my fave anime after I watched it last year. I think it's really brilliant. The plot, soundtrack, world building, character development... my compliments to the chef! It made me think about things and sometimes I'm stuck in a dilemma. The only thing I hate about the anime is that they killed my boy Kagari. And yes, Makishima is the best villain of all time for me. 🤧
It's likely always going to be my number one anime. It does so much, so well, and in a neat and clean way. Every character develops not just into someone interesting, but someone interesting with respect to each other, the world, the plot, and even more. It really is A+ production
@@ProfessorViral thanks for the video! I love how you explained things without over analyzing. Are you, perhaps, a Philosophy or Psychology major? Looking forward to more Psycho-Pass video from you. 🤗
@@ProfessorViral Is S2 and S3 worth watching as compared to the OG.
I can't say how many times i watch psycho pass season 1 i love the main. Antagonist and his logic he is so relatable to alot of people including myself
I've watched season one way too many times at this point, so I feel haha
Makishima and Johan Liebert are my two favorite villains
I see this a lot, I for sure need to watch Monster sometime
@@ProfessorViral Monster is my favorite media ever, I must recommend it
@@josephyoseph lol we have the same favorite through Griffith up there aswell
Makishima is a close second for me after Johan, both are great villains, I want to mention "Friend" from 20th Century Boys whose written from the same author of Monster, Naoki Urasawa
Shogo Makishima is the best villain precisely because he isn't one.
Antagonist just doesn't have the same ring as villain for a title haha. But I'd drive hard for the "he was right" case
Villain and antagonist are different. He was an antagonist as he opposes the protagonist, and rather than a villain, he's more like an anti-hero.
I think Johann Liebert is the best villain.
To answer your last question, Ghost in the Shell is similar to Psycho-Pass. In fact, you can often see where Psycho-Pass draws inspiration from GitS.
That's for sure one I need to finally watch sometime then!
there was a lot of time from the last time i saw this anime. I forgot a lot of name. but Shogo Makishima, that name i will remebered like one of the best villain that i saw.
100%. I'll be 85 years old and still remember his name
i mean.. is makishima really even a villain? he’s a little dark and twisted, yeah, but if the show was centred around him as the protagonist then people would see that sybil is the true villain.. also i just finished watching season 1 for a second time and i can’t stop crying??? sos
also i really loved this video 🥺 start to finish, you did a great job
lol just had the same thought.. if it were from a different perspective the MWPSB and Sybil would be seen as the antagonist(s)
@@aidanriva9330 100%
One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.
And since the Sybill system basically represents one of the worst dystopias (obviously just my opinion) he definitely is on the freedom fighter side for me.
Shogo AND the Sibyl System are BOTH the villain. Shogo is similar to The Hunger Game's character Coin in how she sees the evil system her society is trapped in, and seeks to free people from it. However, she goes about achieving this goal in a cruel fashion. In this way, Coin is to Snow as Shogo is to Sibyl. Evil vs. Evil, both are the villain.
What a brilliant character analysis, you’re goddamn great at this !
Thank you, that means a lot 😁
I think Makashima is meant to be a representation of what Akane would/could be if she were on the other side of the law. Both of them always have a perfect psycho-pass, despite what happens to them/what they do.
In fact, Makashima and others may be unique with them being criminally asymptomatic, but i think Sybyl is so scared of Akane because she has the power of the criminally asymptotic, but isn't actually a criminal/latent one herself, she's even more rare as far as we know. Whilst the Psycho-pass seems to judge her okay, it doesn't matter what she does, her hue is never clouded & it always remains at body temperature, even when shown images of a dead relative. If anybody else were to meddle the way she did/does, they'd get too stressed and get clouded. Similarly to that bitch inspector with the freckles that freaked out when she found out the truth. She licked the chief's boots and wagged her tail, but Akane remained herself and stood her ground, with an unchanging hue, despite initial stress & her shaking. I think her ability to remain herself amongst adversity is her strongest trait.
Anyway, I went off topic. I think Akane & Makashima are two sides of the same coin, however, Kogami is the coin itself, or, if you like, the edge of the coin. He harbours the best qualities of both of them.
Makashima is meant to represent a moral dilemma in my opinion. I believe it comes down to Actus Reus and Men's Rea (actions & intentions in cases of the law). In the case if murder, Actus Reus would be the physical act of killing. However, Men's Rea woild ve the intention. Killing without Men's Rea would be considered man slaughter, and result in a lesser sentence (just for anybody that doesn't know).
Makashima embodies both of these. He purposely executed violent acts and terrorism, with intent to do exactly what happens. However, he represents what it's like to be a sociopath/psychopath. He has no empathy, he does not have the capability/capacity to feel love or empathy towards others, he feels nothing is wrong when he murders people due to it contributing to his lofty goals, or it being a case of sacrificing the few for the many. However, he is doing these things for an extremely good reason, as Sybyl is a sci-fi version of a dictator, more or less. He is challenging this dictator due to the fact he is aware that Sybyl cannot scan him, as in his head, killing isn't inherently a bad thing. With him being how he is, he makes the most of his "ability." People like this exist in the real world, too.
When it comes to the detectives, Kogami embodies the part of the law that's concerned about Actus Reus, he does not forgive Makashima for his actions, and seeks judgement. Also, in the same scope, he also embodies Actus Reus himself, as he is aleays acting on impulse, and doing things to the extreme.
However, in the same vain, Akane embodies Men's Rea, the intention. She understands Makashima is a terrible person for what he has done, and hates him. However, she doesn't want him dead, she just wants to do what she believes is right and carry out her own version of justice, moreso because she understands exactly why he is doing what he is. She is more concerned with having him taken in, getting answers from him, and also, stopping Kogami from killing him, as that would have him be labelled an actual criminal. Akane's intentions are what matter the most to her and others around her, as they are unique, and she approaches everything with rationale and fortitude, but isn't a loose cannon, like Kogami.
However, the dilemma is, what is the right way to punish Makashima? Not only is he a sociopath, so he doesn't feel empathy, making what killing is for most, very different to him. But, also, what he is doing, he is doing for a very good reason. Society is opressed by a dictator, and he wants to investigate/stop/challenge it. From our perspective, there's little wrong with his overarching goal, as nobody likes a dictator. But, again, it would plunge society into chaos if he were successful, and he has dine terrible things. But, when you think about it, I think he only directly kills two people (may be more i have forgotten)... Other than that, he just incites people's inner will, and causes violence by proxy. So, there's the Men's Rea, but not the Actus Reus. When it comes down to his most heinous acts, he intends thek to take place, however, he either just observes, or, tags along.
So, like i said, what would, in the real world, be the right way to punish somebody like this? Do they deserve to be executed, or, should they he locked up?
This is my take on it anyway, I doubt the creators were thinking this when making it, but I believe it can certainly be interpreted this way.
Truly ahead of its time
Great analysis! I'm gonna watch your Kogami analysis now, as he's my favorite character in the entire franchise. :D I wonder if there's a list or something similar where all the intellectual and philosophical works that are being mentioned throughout season 1/the entire anime are listed? Would love to know!
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed! 😄 I know there's a list of the works Makishima references (on Anime News Network I think?), but I'm unsure if there's one for the entire anime
Hi and thanks for your fast reply! I actually found a solid goodreads list that contains nearly all the aforementioned works. I, obviously, ended up binging way more of your content :P. I'm personally wondering whether you have read/caught up on any of the books mentioned throughout the franchise, as it seems that PP is your favorite anime of all time :D
Kind of off topic, but I would absolutely love to hear a debate between the two greatest antagonists in anime- Makishima and Johan Liebert from Monster considering how similar, yet different they are
From what I've heard, I do feel like when I finally see Monster I'll feel the same
Johan doesn't Care about human life, he didn't need a dumb freewill philosophy to justify his killings unlike makishima, he wanted tenma to kill him because tenma believed that every single life is important...Johan wanted to die but only if the pure tenma, the only person who ever manifested love for Johan was the one pulling the trigger...people Say Johan was nihilist but it's not exact, he Cared about tenma so much...he wanted to corrupt his ideals...
@@ProfessorViral check Monster out, either watch the anime or read the manga, the great plot twists, the character reveals will keep you on edge, and Johan being the mystery of Monster, will keep you intrigued.
Great video. Makashima is my hero
New subscriber ❤thanks for the video
God damm, after watching many times I am understand points-(I think). Thanks for analysis, I like your analysis videos , because I think your analysis have point and valid reasoning. Not many TH-camrs make analysis videos with valid reasoning and observations of that a series(may be because those videos don't get enough or many views). So, thanks for your work
No problem, I honestly worry a lot that my work is very surface level or basic, so comments like this do mean a lot : )
But what was Makishima talk about when, during the last episode, he said to Akane something like "I really wish you people would stop mocking us"?
I would consider Makishima's alignment to be Chaotic Good.
It might seem a strange choice to call such a cold blooded murderer Good but after taking time to think about why he spent so much time undermining people's belief in the Sibyl system it became clear that had he skipped that step, not exposing the flaws in the system and simply gone about destroying the foundation of it then that would have meant certain doom for all the brainwashed citizens who had no time to consider thinking for themselves.
Ironically by using terrible criminals as pawns to expose the cracks in Sibyls enforcement it would have resulted in more people being prepared for the downfall of society.
Of course bringing about the downfall of society is inherently comes with very terrible consequences, that is what accounts for Akane's resistance of his plan also being Good despite the fact that it requires upholding an Evil status quo.
Because both sides are fighting with an ends justify the means mentality it can thus be stated objectively that the winning side is Good and the losing side is Evil, but on an individual level both Akane and Makishima are Good until somebody wins while the collective group they represent are both Evil.
Wow what a great analysis thanks man!
No problem! Thanks for watching! : D
Agreeing with the intro already
I think since this video, I opened most of the Psycho-Pass ones by just saying some variation of 'I love it,' like here lol
I really liked your videos, thank you
He is one of my favorite villains of all times😍😍❤️❤️👌🏻👌🏻
Same here for sure!
@@ProfessorViral can you also do an analyse to the Mc from Psycho Pass S3?
oh so THATS why his hue is clear
Im not a big fan of psycho pass but i think makishima is one of the best ani/manga antagonist and my personal fav
Hey, that's fair! I'll admit my love for the anime is a bit of a skew for me haha
Makishima is definitely up there definitely top 5 villians in anime but I'd say johan liebert (the monster) is the best villian in all of anime, and probably one of the best in all of fiction
I still have to see Monster, since it's longer and harder to make a video on, but I will see it one day for sure!
@@ProfessorViral johan is best put as the antichrist given form
Massive W man, agreed 100%
@@ProfessorViral I recommend watching Monster, it's a great slow burn psychological dark thriller
This great video deserved a sub
Thank you! : D
@@ProfessorViral really in depth video of one the best antagonist
Basically he's a critic looking at the fundamental flaws of an absolute doctrine adopted by a relative system.
The system is made by and made out of the human mind. But human's don't understand itself half as well as our subconscious does.
So he basically acknowledge there's things we don't understand and by taking this artificial truth as absolute, they've denied a core part of every individual.
Many people are simply complacent and goes with the flock. But others are wired differently, like autism. They see differently, think differently, they're wired differently.
So they see different patterns normal people can't.
New to your channel. I love your videos so far and this is the best breakdown of Makishima Shogo I have seen, but please, please, do something about the light glare bouncing off your glasses right into the camera. It's sensory murder for me. Stay cool ProfessorViral.
Makishima is the best character of psycho pass in my opinion, or at least he is one of the best villain anime world could ever have. His personality, ideology, qualities such as reading fiction novels are just amazing. His ideas were too extreme as well as his actions. But he is the kind of villain who is not much hateable.
The fact that he's a psychopathic killer who wants to destroy society with no plan for a better world, and is still as likeable as he is, is a testament to Urobutchers writing
@@ProfessorViral Very true
I even wonder having Shogo Makishima and James William Moriarty as duo in an anime with an ideals that wants to change the flaws of society.
Ato, my man! Great video, but I’m worried about your mental health. You sound really passionate about all of these killers. Seek help fam
Ever heard of Johan Liebert? Takasugi Shinsuke? Meruem? Sure, I agree. Makishima is like the villian who should be hero, and one of the best. But these guys are the G.O.A.Ts as well
I've been meaning to watch Monster, but the episode count always intimidates me to watch another 12-24 😅
@@ProfessorViral It's alright don't sweat it😁
@@ProfessorViral you are truly missing out. Is on the same master philosophy/psychology level as Psycho Pass.
@@ProfessorViral it's a slow burn psychological dark thriller, it's goes very deep into the human psychology and the philosophy on life and death
everybody gangsta till u realise hinakawa has the same voice actor as makishima
WHAT
and Suzaku Kururugi from Code Geass and Giyuu from Demon Slayer
Smartest psychopaths ever
1. Makishima Shogo
2. Hannibal
3. Johan Liebert
There have been a lot of fictional characters described as psychopaths and incredibly smart and well read and ive watched them all. Makashima Shogo is the closest thing to a perfect psychopath.
I've actually never seen the series the others are from, but maybe I should broaden my horizons, if they're even somewhat comparable haha
@@ProfessorViral Sure, just a little info on both. Hannibal is the greatest villian/antagonist in the literature history, Sir Anothony Hopkins won an oscar for portraying Hannibal in the 91 (movie- silence of the lambs) also check out Hannibal TV series 2013, if you liked psycho pass you're gonna love it, lastly Johan Liebert is the principal antagonist in the anime Monster. Little slow story but great anime.
@@ProfessorViral Monster is one of the greatest shows ever and not just anime. And Makishima is kinda inspired by Johan.
He's not a psychopath. He's a sociopath. Huge difference.
I see similarities between him and johan liebert from monster, just in the philosophical style of motive for their entire life, they probably differ greatly though, im not able to analyze it correctly right now, both good animes. Fate/Zero is my favourite anime of all though and it was written by the same author that made psycho pass.
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex was similar to Psycho/Pass
These societies arent wrong in themselves, but they encapsulate a wide range of people. If you want to live in a Siybl world, go right head; if you prefer a monarchy, oligarchy, communism then fine. Just dont drag anyone along with you. I feel like if we could pick the type of society we prefer, people would be alot happier.
Just going through TH-cam videos for Psycho Pass now and you have tons of them. After listening to the first sentence of this video, I understand why. Should I watch season 2 and 3? I've heard mixed opinions
I think stopping at S1 is the best way to go. S2 is disappointing for trying to be the original with half the episodes, and S3 really changes into a different series, but then brings back elements of S1 for fanservice, giving a large cast without much for those tertiary characters to do. But, if you really like the world, there is MUCH more media post season one, that can be enjoyed if you're able to detach it from season one somewhat
@@ProfessorViral awesome, what a quick answer. As someone who is craving for more Psycho Pass I'll hold myself back and not tarnish the memory of a perfect show. Thank you
Came back to this review again. This review perfectly explains why Kamoui was such a fail. Kamoui was selfish and Makashima woulda frowned at him.
It was a downgrade to go from someone who acted on their own developed ideals, against their own benefit, to someone opting for revenge and also some ideal. Thanks for stopping back, and the kind words!
I used to think that Makishima was just a murder obsessed man who was a humanist on the side. That he did believe in free will, but only a specific kind. Sort of something like this: when he says he wants to see the splendor of man’s soul, he only meant that he wanted to see the dark side of people.
I’ve rewatched PP, and I don’t think that’s entirely the case anymore. I still think he mostly means that he wants to see the dark side of man’s soul. However in this world, how many people are actually able to explore those sides? If at all? In PP’s world, people who even think of exploring the darker sides of their personality is rare. Most people on this world are happy, bland, cheerful, and just living like livestock without a care in the world.
I sometimes wonder what Makishima would think of people with morals (in the show, we see him commit atrocities without a blink of an eye. Maybe he does have morals in some capacity since the people he kills are deemed worthless by him, but any morals he might have are likely few).
What I mean by a person with morals is a person who accepts the dark sides of humanity, acknowledges that they aren’t all good and happy and definitely has dark thoughts, yet still empathizes with people and believes to give everyone (well, excluding people they believe are bad) a chance. In a nutshell, a person who loves and wants to protect humanity despite the atrocities we can commit.
Would Makishima be impressed? Disgusted? Curious? I’m not really sure.
Oh god this got long, but rambles usually do
Urobuchi Gen, please write more!
^ This all the way
Love this anime ❤❤❤
That's a pretty bold claim my friend. Psycho pass is definitely a masterpiece, no doubt about that. However, the best anime ever made? While I can't deny it's in the running for that title, Steins;Gate is definitely it's strongest contender. Since we both have a fair amount of knowledge of both shows, I think it would be really fun to have a debate about their merits and flaws.
I remember thinking it was kind of boring when I watched it years ago. Should I rewatch it?
I would say for sure, but it is my favorite series of all time haha
Wouldn’t say he’s the best villain, Johan Liebert for me is clearly the best villain, although Makishima is a close second for me.
Johan Liebert is a another animal he's a abused child turn sociopath doing everything aimlessly kinda anarchistic. But on the other hand Makashima had clear goal and vision behind his action. While monster is a good anime Johan is not better villain then Makashima.
@@SharukhSaifi Johan did have a goal, it was to make the best person he had ever met, Dr Tenma into a monster to confirm his beliefs.
Liebert is unrealistic in his own world.
Liebert would be unrealistic in PP's world too.
I would put makashima just a smidge above johan but its can go ether way for me same with Griffith
@@jarlpirigan6434 He is realistic in many areas of his character
makishima is johan liebert-tier for sure
I'll watch Monster one day so I can understand the comparisons! I do want to watch it sometime
@@ProfessorViral it's been two years, you're missing out a gem, same happened to me until I finally decided that it was about time. and man the regret for not watching it sooner was too heavy
Excellent video! I loved your analysis of Makishima. Self reflection is something I try to avoid but Shogo hit a chord and introduced me to a different perspective. There's also a small bookworm bias there, ahah. ;) Definitely my favorite anime character so far. I'm looking forward to more of your content. Subbed! x
Thank you! I'm super happy to provide a bit more of your favorite character for you, he's for sure mine as well. I'm glad you decided to stick around as well, hope you like the other videos! : D
Johan sweeps
Shogo Makashimi is like a more intelligent and more justified version of the real world Unobomber. His philiosophy is incredibly similar.
The only Villain i was sad for, when he died
It's sad, that to find what he always wanted, a real connection and free will, he had to die at Kogami's hands. It wraps everything up so well, but so somberly
@@ProfessorViral That is an interpretation that i didn't think of.
Interesting.
But i think i felt 'sad' not because i liked his personality, or him being intellectual nor because he was morally good (which he was not of course).
His ideals resonated with me - a person who values freedom above all else.
And even though he was the antagonist - i felt his final course was the right one.
Didnt want to rewatch it again....... this was much quicker thanks
6:48
His death sence reminds of Light death sence
We all feel a (synthetic) sympathy for Makishima when he goes against Sibyl, we kind of want him to destroy the system, because I think we do appreciate just how right he is about the rationalistic state. It might make sense from a consequentialist point of view but it feels so fake, like a simulacrum of an ideal society.
well said!
Thanks!
I've only seen once (and in questionable quality I found on my phone). But I don't get how he can be 'disappointed' in their choices if that's what they really want to do. Wouldn't he still be tolerant of their limited goals? Even if they're not as high concept and ambitious as his? 🤔 idk, he just comes off as an a**hole to me
It's because what he's seeking is something greater than personal goals. Rikako only wants to imitate the success of her father, Masatake only wants comfort, and Senguji the thrill of death. They don't have a greater meaning to their actions, just themselves. Gu-sung is the one who receives his praise though, because he uses his ambition to try and change society. So, it's not really about doing what they want, but why they even want to do it
johan liebert
We need a video on Johan from this channel for sure.
So shogo is archetype of lucifer, an angel who fell for humans just so they can use their freewill and become original?
I'm not familiar with that myself, but it is mostly what he tried to be
Your opinion on Senguji is completely off. When his hunt is interrupted and it finally becomes dangerous, that is the first and only time he shows any kind of interest and serious emotion. And he not only shows excitement, he very specifically states that he is not to be saved if he loses.
Hes bored with the stale same hunts and wants the prey to be a danger, hes not looking for the safe boring kill, hes looking for the exciting factor of unpredictability. This is why Makishima actually goes to some lengths to get him to open up, albeit without much success as hes interested in whats inside the mans head.
Was Makishima really a villain . When you think about it Sibyl System is trully villainous one.
That's a topic I could take either side of, but he does take the role of a villain against the main characters, so I do consider him one narratively at least
@@ProfessorViral There are many Great "villains" in anime with simillar formula to Makishima . Like Makoto Shishio from Rurouni Kenshin . Don''t remember the exact quote but Kenshin said something along the lines : We are just as evil to them as they were to us . They did what they truly believed in , and so do we , it's just a matter of perception .
agree100
Thank you!
No doubt psycho-pass season 1 is the best anime ever made.
psycho pass for me was one of those times where i wanted to chill and watch something without thinking to get super excited and confused, so makishima seemed just like a huge pissy bitch to me, hot fictional guys who do horrible things always annoy me, because it seems no matter what the fuck they do - people are still gonna piss their pants about hot hot and charismatic they are. guess i have to watch again now with my thinking glasses on with a more cool head
Police: hey u are under arrest
Person: for what?
Police: for thinking abt killing.
Person: I just thought abt it out of anger it doesn't mean am going to do it.
Police: Refuser to co- operate will lead to ur death.
Person: am not
Police: shots claims is self defense from a criminal.
Logic of psycho pass
Boiled down a bit, but kind of 🤣
I love psycho -pass but I didn't enjoy the second season of psycho-pass
This is how I feel as well. I would list why, but I made a video long ago about that very topic haha
@@ProfessorViral I agree that Makishima is the best villain and you did amazing explained
I think Makishima was right all along, kogami is the villain and akane is so bland, trying to be perfect, she imitates makishima's goal in the newest movie.
It sucks he was shot and after him the plot kinda became dull and now they are wrapping it up several seasons later just that akane reaches the conclusion he did in s1
Best anima villain? Tell that to Johan.
I haven't seen Monster yet, but I will one day!
@@ProfessorViral I hope that day comes sooner, I regretted not checking out Monster sooner, and I was blown away when I finally watched it
I am never watching this anime after his death.
johan liebert is watching you
One day I'll fully understand the Monster references 🤣
no one would want to be watched by Johan that's for sure, he's the monster himself, there's a reason why most of Monster characters are scared of him, even with the mention of him
you are only talking about the first season right ?
Yep! Most of the Psycho-Pass videos here on the channel are 1st season exclusive
@@ProfessorViral obviously 😂😂
I love your video, but forgive me for laughing at the way you butchered Choi Gu-seong's name, I can't-
I'm terrible at pronunciation, but I do go off of online resources, so blame those 🤣
Makishima is a complex and evil character
I think I would be on Makishima side if he did not kill people
I would have instantly said 100% before, but I always find myself becoming more like Akane over time. But, I think I would still push for more, like Makishima to at least hope the change came quicker
I think Makashima is black pilled
While I'm no expert on the term and it's implications, I think what makes me hold him in a high regard still is the fact that he didn't seek to set a new system in place, but simply rid the world of one he hated. You could argue he was vying for a "natural" system in it's place, but he never specifically outlines a goal other than what he believes to be the best interest for the concept of humanity. He openly admits he has no idea what lies on the other side of his plan
You do have a fundemental misunderstanding of the Sybil system. It doesn't actively oppress free will, it facilitates a path for each individual to lead a happy life. Also, if you read any beginner-level neuroscience, you'd seriously question what free will is & wether it's real or not. I recommend Robert Sapolsky's Introduction to Human Behavior course or Stanford's YT channel. Sybil is the good guys here, they're maximizing happiness, & they want to create a perfect society where every individual lives their best, they don't exhibit any kind of hunger for power or control. So, the outcome & the intent are good (although, the intent doesn't matter AT ALL)
Makishima's philosophy is the one that's outdated. He's the one creating pain, killing people & regressing his country from humanity's scientific achievements in truley understanding ourselves
Edit: Literally after posting this comment I see a recommended video of yours titled "Sybil,: Not The Evil One"... This is just sensationalism for you isn't it, you don't really care about that system
No, I can't say I care about Sibyl, since it's just a system from the anime. An anime I love every part of, but I won't say I care about Sibyl. It's clear from what's presented to us that Sibyl actively discourages free will. Not to mention its clear corruption, in overriding its own rulings and giving special treatment to a man who broke it's own ideals of safety. If you said we disagreed on ethical philosophy, I'd agree with you, because it's clear we're taking opposite stances. But I don't think I misunderstand the system. I'm also not talking about it for sensationalism, I just want to share content about an anime I love
@@ProfessorViral I see. It's not about just anime for me, it's the real world. A lot of neuroscientists explained how our current legal systems ignore almost 80 years of neuroscientific progress, driving most of humanity into misery & prohibiting actual progress. Maintaining this illusion of free will isn't the issue, writing laws based on that illusion & dictating people's lives is. I'm disappointed by your apathy since Psychopass is much more than anime to me, it's a promise (if things go well, in the long run)
@@Nylon-xj9ml Sibyl might facilitate a general fleeting happiness, but I believe where you are wrong is that this is the best state a human could achieve. It seems quite evident to me, and Makishima understands this at the very least, that humans should push for meaningfulness in there life rather than happiness. Only through struggle, strife, and conviction in their own choices can this be achieved by someone. Whether that is an illusion or free will is true is a somewhat irrelevant debate though due to the fact we really have no way of knowing. Now let me give you some leeway the Sibyl system works as a great suggestive tool, but fails as a executive body. Instead of being the god of the world it should simply be a tool used to make the citizens lives better.