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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ก.ค. 2022
- What does it mean to be you? Psycho-Pass explores the line between the natural and the artificial and uses it to ask you what it means to be a person.
An in-depth analysis of the philosophy, themes, characters, and basically every literary reference made in Psycho-Pass.
Psycho-Pass is one of my favourite anime of all time and it's the one I recommend to anyone who doesn't watch anime and most people do. One of the most intelligent, thought-provoking stories of our generation.
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I watched Psycho-Pass a year ago and Makishima shogo is my favorite villain hands down
And I listen to the op and ed every day while I workout such bangers
helllll yeah friend
@@v_glob7194CAUSE I FEEL~
Is he a villain though?
@odet_123 he is. His methods are wrong even if philosophical he's right. He admits so while killing Yuki saying only those who are fallen can judge his sins. He admits he's sinful and wrong but thought it was the only way to spread his message which is not true.
Excellent video! PsychoPass is my all-time favorite, and you nailed the explanations. I learned a ton I didn't know about the literary background of it, so thank you so much for that!
I've been working in IT for over 20 years, and the show resonates over and over with even current technological developments. Every year we get better and better at data processing, analysis, and prediction. We have analytic capabilities that would make Orwell spin in his grave. So far, our saving grace in that we've chosen not to go all-in on something Sibyl yet seems largely a matter of broaching a taboo, but occasionally that taboo gets chipped away at as a matter of necessity. Things could turn out far worse than Sibyl if we're not extremely careful. In that sense, I see Sibyl as almost an "optimistic" outlook. It has serious problems, but at least it provides some utility value to everyday people (even if it goes overboard to the point of becoming a fault).
Sorry if that came out sounding a bit like a disjointed rant, but a lot of thinking about this topic and it's really hard to explain without a totally separate 40 minute video or giant wall of text :D
thank you friend : D it's one of my favourites and it's the one i recommend to people
and absolutely, ai is starting to scare me more every year lol, especially when i see shit like dall-e and what it's doing. the fact that it screws up simple inputs reminds me that it's literally just imitating patterns but this shit is getting eerie
London has millions of cameras from a sp0oky Chinese company, including a *lot* of face-scanners. It's not as far as off even as that.
i think sibyl is good
it's been a year, how do you feel now, given the rapid progression of AI?
@@naadirbuffy7892 I still think a version of sibyl could happen, but (known) AI applications haven't really gone that direction. China's "Social credit score" system comes to mind since then; I don't know what kind of AI they might be using under the hood there. Training data still seems to be the main bottleneck for developing AI applications, so the thing to watch out for is organizations gathering both negative and positive correlations to criminal activity. I've seen improvements in doing more with existing data, or using it in different and creative ways, but needing data to train on in the first place is still a fundamental requirement. There has been some pushback, for example, on how to use scraped web data for AI training (in terms of data anonymization), and that is in tension with the fundamental limitations that would underpin Sibyl.
So I think the "taboos" are still largely holding, at least in the western world, and at least in terms of "plausible deniability" for orgs that might be breaking them. And despite the much better use of data that has developed, I still don't think it's possible to build Sybil without breaking the taboo of data deanonymization. Tweets are (largely) anonymous, but criminal records are not, so the moment a tweet is tied to a criminal record (or lack thereof), that taboo is still broken. It's difficult to engineer around a social problem, but we'll see I guess.
We truly live in a society
All jokes aside, this was a really insightful video. Psycho pass has been one of my favourites for a while, but while I thought to myself that I have somewhat a good grasp on what its trying to tell, I feel like I'm still missing something. You made me realize that Sibyl is not necessarily an "idealized" society, it is very akin to ours. Thanks a lot, cheers!
ayyy thank you friend : D
and i wouldn't say it's not idealized--i would think of it more of an extreme version of our society.
Or an dystopian utopia.
Or an utopian dystopia?
I was pretty appalled by the Orwellian horror that was the world of Psycho Pass. Kind of interesting is that it gave them an excuse to have an isolationist Japan to set this world in (wouldn't want any international incidents from tourists getting popped like blood balloons). I was especially appalled by the ending, though, in which the system is acknowledged to be corrupt, but the main character insists that she's going to somehow change the corrupt system from within. And then the sequel happened.
Season 2? Sorry I'm afraid psycho pass only has one season, just like the last Airbender only has one series and no movies.
hey i watched season 2 it was..........
okay
-i didnt make it through s3 though-
@WeebJail I would watch it if I were you. S3 was great, and the antagonist, Azusawa, is a great villian in his own right.
Most people give anything post s1 a lot of flak but personally I think it's a great example of world building. A lot of the themes from s1 continue on but are subtle, and take a more sociological approach.
The biggest gripe from critics is that many characters are replaced as the show progresses, but I mean hey, change is a part of life, right?
@@klam05 eh my biggest gripe was that each episode was an hour long but they still had 20 minutes worth of writing in them
@@WeebJail yeahh that's true the plot itself isn't the best
40 minutes about an anime series? YEAH, I LOVE THAT SH *T.
Excellent video dude, I watched Psycho-pass almost three years ago and I simply can't get over it. Watching and reading the different ways in which the series can be approached only makes me love it more, and it's a series in which even its soundtrack speaks (there's a video here on TH-cam in Spanish by Javier Altozano that analyzes the Psycho-Pass soundtrack, highly recommended for those who know Spanish, or just put on the automatic translation: the musical instruments transmit us the voices of its characters and that of the system, a noise that seeks to harmonize but finally overpowers. See it). Psycho-pass is a work that speaks to us between the lines, one can stay with the most superficial part that, for example, can make us think that Makishima was right and was a simple anarchist, or we can see beyond that, through its constant literary references and how these pass from the paper to the reality of his world (in a somewhat ingenious narrative resource). To my mind, the series is a work with deeply human characters. Makishima, even the system, don't cease to be human in essence either, and the denouement with Makishima couldn't have been better. I quite liked that you talked about the mistake with Makishima's ideal, I couldn't agree with you more, it's a mistake that even Akane falls for, which makes Makishima a failed (in a good way) and almost even tragic villain. You made me mostly understand the ending, as I did come to wonder why Makishima decided not to end Akane's life, when he perfectly could have done it as a last act of malice, although I also thought that maybe he didn't do it as a matter of time or because he saw some kind of connection between her and Kogami; finally I would like to add something else to the above, an incredible detail that happens before our faces but that maybe many didn't realize: Makishima left the gun there, he didn't take it with him, even on the chance that Kogami had more bullets (which he did), but why? Was it again a matter of timing, Was it just another test of his, if so? Or was it some kind of... Suicide? Keep in mind that this may have been the character's moment of greatest lucidity and perhaps the most significant thing he will actually choose in the end will be how he will die and by whom.
That ending stuck like fire in my head.... Simply splendid, magnificent. Makishima's last lines were nothing more than a self-projection of his own and a last gasp of a very human monster.
I could talk a lot more about the series, maybe someday I'll even dedicate a thesis to it haha, but for now that's enough. It's not a perfect series, not at all, but in the end the work will speak for itself. Thanks for the video
haha awesome : D the psycho pass soundtrack is seriously 10/10
id have to think about the gun thing more, but just off the top of my head, i think when he realizes that akane spent her last bullet to stop him, this is when he realizes that he might have been wrong and accepts the end of his life
It's very thought provoking and well put video on an anime that is criminally undertalked, however I think you somewhat misinterpret Makishima at times as this naturalist, extremist individualist, who would ideally prefer law of the jungle. If anything, this describes Kougami better. Makishima's last monologue showcases it the best, he isn't trying to force more individuality per se, he's only sick of the collective being such a fraud. If anything, he represents that exact collective, a humanist who believes your choices are inherintly meaningful not just because they come "more from you" but because our conscious will is our most special trait and the system gradually castrates it. His line about monkeys being able to draw is a good analogy, we empathize with what's too close to us to stay comfortable not doing so, hence his lack of empathy towards humankind without humanity i.e. capability of meaningful choices. However in the first one of 2014 added scenes, he straight up admits in internal monologue he seeks to understand and likes people in general. Also his final monologue is almost certainly caused by Kougami's callout to him at the end of ep 21. Makishima hates the inevitable isolation he was put through from birth, while at the same time refrecting the exact personality you'd expect from somebody who was judged as right by the god of his world. I also don't agree that Makishima thought he was wrong after trying to shoot Akane. He seemed like a definition of fullfilment when dying at the hand of Kougami - because it does prove his ideology right. One determinated enough man achieved what the self-proclaimed god with all it's servants could not; because he prioritizes his own choice, choice that gives meaning, meaning that gives power.
im always a little suspicious of things that were added in later haha. but i dont think i suggested he preferred the "law of the jungle" whatever that is. my point is that he's trying to bring out the natural self, but his mistake is that the natural self does not exist.
society does not castrate people's will. society is inseparable from the individual, is the point of the video.
@@WeebJail I said system, not society. Which Sybil most certainly does.
And I don't really see Makishima opposing "lack of self" as much as inepted souls. He doesn't see humans as overloaded with stuff that clouds their own, he sees their own as not complete anymore.
Granted, I don't disagree with main conclusions of your video, only with selected parts of the reasoning. In my opinion it had sometimes a little bit deadset approach on how to make Makishima antithesis of the "good answer". Is he devoid of empathy, unforgivable, narcissistic and occasionally somewhat hypocritical? Sure. But is he wrong purely philosophically? I don't think he missed the mark even a little.
And even ignoring my personal worldview, I think this is also what Urobuchi was going for with the ending. Makishima died happy, the only victor was the guy who said "fuck the system", Sybil is disappointed but still snarky and Akane, while portrayed as good, unique, developed and needed, is undeniably proven powerless. The more individual will and choice was displayed in their conclusions, the happier they were. Her view of "people protecting the law" is as beautiful as it is unrealistic thanks to human nature. I think that's exactly what's supposed to be big hitter here - how can a person acting so wrong, be so right? And the fact some viewers might get accustomed enough to think of Sybil as necessary evil in the end is borderline metacommentrary on conformity - viewer ending the anime being slightly more like citizen in it. Had the self been main concern of Makishima, he probably would've been a terrorist even in current era. But his obssessive mentioning of choice and soul being seen through by science, leads me to believe he's no real anarchist, he's specifically a walking cancelculture to Sybil and Sybil only, the second equally important villain who took away from humans something that was supposed to be inseparable from them. One of the components being dark impulses, that aren't just natural, they are objectively necessary, hence me saying their will got castrated. He loved and died as this amalgamation of human traits that should never be put aside, whatever they might be.
Because humanity isn't pretty. But even that mustn't be accustomed.
@@Reality-Distortion oh sorry that's the problem with having words like the system in english lol, that usually means society. but anyway, if you accept the main premise of my video, that society is inseparable from the individual, then you must accept that makishima is wrong because his worldview is incompatible with this idea.
as for the rest, i see two fundamental flaws in your reasoning:
1) people aren't happier making the choices they do. they avoid misery, but this and happiness are two very different things.
we can see this explicitly when kogari sets off to kill makishima--not because he wants to, not because he feels it would make him happy, but because he feels he must.
look at the people around the world of psycho pass and you'll see the ignorant are the happiest.
and if you look at makishima in the ending, he only comes to bliss at the moment right before his death. it's not his choices that gave him bliss in the end. it's acceptance of death that does.
2) nowhere does psycho pass suggest that dark impulses are either natural or objectively necessary.
one of the main points in my video is that the sibyl system creates these impulses in people to serve its own ends, but murder is neither a natural nor necessary part of society.
@@WeebJail1. It's not incompatible at all.
2. The anime proved that by having overdose of outside stimuli in their life making choice for them, they increasing problem of people turning into basically plants. So no, ignorance just bites them in the ass and choices are indeed necessary. Sybil was shown even covering info about this.
3. Intense desire and "just feeling like he must" are the exact same thing, there is literally no distinction.
4. His choices is what lead him to this death. His choices lead him to enjoy the game he called life. His choices led him to even feel content with Kogami killing him, because that's how he thinks things should work. Those who didn't abandon their will exert it at the cost of leaving behind the corrupted herd and it's member priveleges behind.
5. Yes, it absolutely does showcase they are necessary. You're identifying "dark impulses" extremely narrowly. What I'm referring to is psychological shadow archetype, which Sybil completely rejects by setting it's bar as low as 100. It's so unbelievably stupid that it even proved self destructive to the system itself. People that require dark thoughts for their job like therapists and police have to struggle to not become criminals just because they are doing their job as good as they can. They even turn out to be understaffed at one point. Another example: crowd of witnesses can't intervene into a public brutal beating because they either have to maintain their sterile mindset free of stress, fear and violence or because they are overly civilized animals, which is no different from a sick animal. Both being sickeningly pathetic fates.
Dark impulses have never been inherently evil, nor they are necessary evil, they are essential part of our being, a tool we will need as long as we exist.
@@Reality-Distortion 1. yes it is lol
2, 3, 4 you're confusing happiness with fulfillment and meaning. generally this is a prerequisite for happiness, but these aren't the same thing. again, it's the ignorant that require less fulfillment.
5. what you're describing is not dark impulses, but negative thoughts. agreed, this is part of normal human psychology and sibyl causes damage trying to suppress them, but what you were suggesting was that this is somehow inseparable from murder and violence. these are not even remotely the same thing.
Never seen Psycho Pass. But the OP and EDs are Top Tier.
its a fuckin baaaaaanger, easy 10/10 anime
@@WeebJail I might check it out, once I get the chance.
Btw if you don't mind me asking.. Have you gotten around to dipping your hand into the next few eps of DAL?
not yet haha!!
@@WeebJail I see. Hopefully you could manage to get back into it so you could at least finish Tohka's arc. (Ep 4) looking forward to seeing your overall thoughts afterward.
after 40 mins, I'm SO HAPPY how you ended this.
hahaha thank you friend
we truly live in a society
Great video. I really loved the conclusion and analysis of all the characters involved. One detail that you didn’t cover is how the helmets work. The helmets copy another person’s crime coefficient. It’s a metaphor for how we are a reflection of those around us who live in society and putting on the helmet is an attempt to separate the person society creates from their true self. The problem with this is that for a copy to exist there must be an original. Society is a simply a reflection of yourself. If Makishima had succeeded and everyone put on a helmet, then who would the helmets copy? If everyone hides their true self then how can you become more yourself and at that point, does it even matter.
oh that's a really good point i definitely could have discussed that too
Get this man a throne
now youre talkin my language
The book "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" makes it pretty clear that the androids killed people to get to Earth, though, and showed them torturing other living things (a scene involving pulling the legs off of a spider comes to mind) and illustrates pretty well why the lack of empathy is as important as it is.
the thing here is that they killed people for freedom. they didn't just randomly kill people lol
and for the spiders, i could be wrong but wasn't that just one of the androids?
great analysist i realised most of this the first time i watcht the anime and its great to see someone make such a good video about it
DUDE!! I really want to complement you on such insight and great analysis but i'm too stunned to speak
it's ok that's a common reaction to the presence of the king of weeaboos
title: never underestimate the viewer
Omg I love Psycho pass it's my favorite anime, Hello, my friend Ninlink (another Makise Kurisu's Simp hahaha) recommends me your channel, greatings ✨
ayyyyy we all simp for kurisu
Thank u so much for this video!!! I started watching psycho pass, just finished 2. season, and I’m so confused. After watching this the series make more sense to me now.
I liked the 2.season, it just made it more confusing than the 1. one.
season 2 was kind of bad, it was just season 1 again but not as good
interesting. Im actually planning on writing my own anime inspired by psycho pass, cyberpunk and the sort so these insights are helpful for me to shape the story
Yikes
like and a subscription great vid. This anime especially is the reason why i think animated shows have a place. Its like a painting with sound, maybe because it is. But you are not hindered by realism.
Its one of the shows a recommend to peopel who never watched an anime.
it's my first recommendation to normies
Just watched this as I finished season 1 and hour ago. Great video bro
there is no season 2 or 3
@@WeebJail not worth it?
@@rsh9410 s2 was just what if season 1 again but half as long and so without any of the development. s3 was like what if s1 again but dragged out,3 timed as long, or at least i think so i couldn't bring myself to finish it
Psycho Pass is also inspired by Project Itoh's books, Harmony and Genocidal Organ.
i think there's a shitload more references/inspiration, these are just all the books specifically discussed by the characters
Have you read chaos head?
If so I’d like to hear your thoughts
it's on the list :/
Amazing video
ty friend : D
Not sure if it was mentioned Tsunemori means Vigilant
technically that's not wrong per se, but see my explanation in the video
Did you see bakemonogatari? :3 i would love an analisis made by You. I think it is always a little missunderstood
And also love the video. Psycho pass is so dark and beautiful, i'll show this video to some friends, arigato!
ive never seen it but i totally should : o
and thank you friend i appreciate it : D
hi, looking for anime there is a girl communicate with her dead father through VR game he created .!
wasnt this an episode of yugioh
@@WeebJail Thank you for your answering my question, but it's not yugioh.
@@WeebJail In the movie or series, there is a scene where the father's daughter works at an organization that converts people's brains into artificial intelligence, similar to the concept in 'Ghost in the Shell,' but with a different storyline.
serial experiments lain?
I haven't seen 'Serial Experiments Lain' yet, but I appreciate the recommendation, and I'll definitely watch it. Thank you very much!
Such a good anime
seriously goated
A great series with a 10. Big brain asf.
Kinda cool the show is also kind of a thought experiment about whether a loving God would create thie world. Let a alone a hell for people. . . Makes no sense. But you'll get alot defender of that system. But garenteed they hate this system even though there literally isn't a difference.
🌟 𝓹𝓻𝓸𝓶𝓸𝓼𝓶
Season 2 was bad though
I thought the Yayoi episode was the worst part of the first season. Filler, almost. It fleshed out a character I didn't care about and made her less likable - because she didn't uphold her principles and ended up betraying her friend (which I don't think was even hinted at as a lover? I'm not sure where you got that from). I couldn't stand her after that, and kept wishing they had killed her off instead of the cool guy with the funny hair. I don't remember his name.
uh it's not stated if they were lovers are not but yayoi is very clearly in lesbians with her, if it wasn't obvious from the huge gay energy emanating from every scene with the two of them, particularly the nail scene, we're just explicitly shown that yayoi is gay when she sleeps with shion lol
@@WeebJail Oh... that makes a lot of sense. I always just kinda assumed those scenes were fan service and nothing more. Haha. Well, that still leaves it as a toss-up. Thanks for the video 👍
@@josephbrandenburg4373 ayy yw friend: D
Ugh why compare a masterpiece like psycho pass to a bland anti-socialist propaganda piece like 1984
uhhhhhhhhhhhhh because it's a really good book which is why psycho pass literally directly references it? psycho pass and the writers both clearly thought it was worth talking about so i talked about it lol
also for the record it's not anti socialist lol, orwell is pretty specifically anti-communist, specifically stalin and the ussr
Huh? How is 1984 anti-socialist? If you think being anti-authoritarian is anti-socialist then you're either a tankie or a conservatard lol.