To KaylAguas' review from anilist: "I realized that balancing your needs and the society's needs to be more important than anything else. Being too self-involved is not healthy and you grow distant from people, being too involved in society can cause you to lose your identity and meaning on why you live. Balance in my opinion is what makes a great person, too many or too little of anything can negatively affect oneself. Too little or too much freedom has detrimental effects on people."
Very true. We have to look at both ourselves, and everything around us, and decided if we feel it's balanced. Is working this job I hate worth the income it provides? Society says it must be that way, but what if it destroys the individual, making them worthless anyway? It's a balancing act that can sadly take a lifetime to perfect
Your video was so good, man! The only thing I got to say is that you might mistake anarchism (a system in which the decisions are taken by the population instead of an elite) with anomism (the abscence of laws and system). The two ideologies are often mistaken, but are really different in essence. Kougami himself answers to professor Saiga that anarchism is a denial of governing and authority, but is different from confusion and disorder. We could even argue that Makishima is more of an anomist than an anarchist, as he's taking out the power pyramid in entirety instead of trying to lower it nearer to all individuals.
Very thought provoking and in depth. This should be up in the millions in terms of views, more people should see this, it definitely deserves the attention.
I love dystopian fiction because of the variety they all have in the way they deal with problems and sometimes they form a mirror to our society and makes us question why things are the way they are. This was an awesome video covering one of my favourite aspects of the anime, thank you!
Thank you for watching, and for the nice comment! My favorite part of Psycho-Pass is for sure the way it's made me question and ponder my own reality, compared to the situation of 2112 Japan where things are exaggerated, and put those kinds of feelings front and center. It pins down those specific ideas and wraps them into everything, and it's downright amazing!
You've changed my mind on Akane Tsunemori. I never understood why she didn't shoot and kill Makishima, and I sided and rooted for Kogami for killing him, after all the atrocious things that the man had caused for society. But when you said that she didn't kill him because the act of killing him would incentivize other people to do the same, threatening society's safety as well as hers, which would destabilize the peace of the greater good of humanity, I totally understood her action! You just gave me a completely different view to her, and I'm so happy about that. I could tell in your final thoughts that you really enjoyed this anime, and I'm glad to have stumbled upon this video!
You deserve more views and likes! Your analysis is thorough and in-depth, Psycho-Pass is a gem capable of inducing critical thinking about various aspects of society in anyone who watches it.
This was really interesting! I watched Psycho-Pass from your recommendation and I'm so glad I did I absolutely loved it! Wanted to say thank you! I really liked Akane's philosophy watching through S1 and S2; but this helped me visualize why. I couldn't quite put my finger on it before lol.
You are right about Akane to most degree. Thing is it has been confirmed that she was born asymptomatic. Her mind naturally prevent her from going to extreme. There are real life cases like that. People with natural talent to always be composed. She was never capable of acting on revenge
Never did I thought I'd come across someone else whom Psycho Pass resonated so much on our modern day. My dude, that was sincerely, enjoyable to the fullest! Thank you!
I like the analogy you used with the roads people should be able to choose between their individual liberties or the safeties that society offers. The problem with sibyl is the fact that only a few get to actually make that choice while for mostly everyone else the choice is made for them.. and not even all of them get to enjoy it’s benefit. Kagari’s entire character is testament to the fact that a perfect system that protects everyone will not exist. I think it’s so easy for people like you and i to say they would give up their freedoms for a safer society but do you think Kagari would?
I think it's more about what freedoms we would give up for safety, since some must be discarded for any safety. I believe we have a good template in many modern societies, but the specifics are unrefined. Kagari didn't want to give up nearly all of his freedoms for safety, but that's not to say he wouldn't give up some of them
@@ProfessorViral Yes, I agree that the concept that one will have to sacrifice certain individual liberties for a society to function, unfortunately based on how sibyl works, progression and change is slow, too slow. It judges even young children before they can truly develop themselves. Basically, sorting people a normal, criminal etc. maintans the status quo and negotiating with sibyl as Akane had done, simply extends the suffering of those who didn't have a choice. Sibyl, based on how it operates, is a collection of outliers. The range is defined on what points those outliers are on a graph-just to visualize- and Akane falls within the scope (the area in between those predetermined points) that is why sibyl didn't integrate Akane into the system , but wanted Makishima. With the choices afforded to Akane by the collective (society and sibyl) she can make choices, deductions and conclusions similar to what the system does. The difference between Sibyl and Akane, is that Akane does consider her feeling and morals -which are predetermined by the environment- while Sibyl uses the same method, only that in order to maintain 'fairness', emotion isn't included in the equation. Sibyl is limited to its 'input' (spoilers) while Akane, as a human is limited to what she sees and experiences. Spoiler alert below Since Sibyl places a high priority in integrating minds wired differently (outliers) from its current selection, to expand the probabilities and the scope of the compromise it does. It does not and probably will not consider a 'normal' person's viewpoint -or a passing idea or thought that may be good for society, a good change - for a very long time up until a certain outlier gets integrated and that 'average' person's thinking/that passing thought gets within sibyl's scope through integration of an outlying individual. An outlier meaning those whose perspective is out of the bounds of the collective society, like Makishima. Akane is somewhat not fully outside the scope of the collective- just a bit out of the bounds after discovering society's flaws and Sibyl's secret- simply due the amount of choices sibyl's society afforded her, choices that weren't given to those like Kogari, -as a child- already condemned to a path before they could fully develop- mature. I'd like to see the differences it made from their experiences, both of them operating within the collective (Akane vs Kogari), of "The Damned vs. The Revered" -just to be dramatic, of one given privilege vs. one that didn't have a choice, both from the start. Unfortunately, Kogari's perspective wasn't explored that much before they killed him off, sibyl killed him unlike Akane, since sibyl knows there is no chance he'd let a system which flaws' deprived him of the choices he could've had as a child. The only thing that made him not go truly against the system was the belief that is the 'common good', and discovering sibyl, and if given the chance to comprehend how it works, he and a lot of other regular people, would not let or accept 'something flawed', marking them as a 'flaw'.
Just started watching this anime yesterday. I'm relatively new to anime and it's really deep. It just proves one thing I already knew: Deontology 👍 is better than utilitarianism 💩
I can feel your passion for the subject but it's just above my head. I can't truly internalize it the way you seem to have. I wish you a good day and thank you for making me think.
This is the reason I choose to be Kogami and not anyone else. The circumstances I was brought up under showed me only one thing to me in life: "So you sow,shall you reap" & "Nobody is going to cater to your needs, and you're not living for others, you're living for yourself." The graph was honestly pretty confusing but understandable and concise. Ever thought about it that even Psycho-Pass 2 touched this subject in a different manner? Kamui was more on the top right corner from Akane but still lesser than Makishima. The message WC also asks us what we are, what colour are you, what kind of person are you and maybe also that if you even know your place on which part of society you're contributing to? If I refer the graph you've made, it asks Sybil, Akane and all others what part of the graph they're in. Noticed that?
That was such a great breakdown between the 3 way dynamic of characters. Akane seems to get a lot of hate imo. Without her the story loses a whole dimension.
Hard agree; at first it's easy to overlook her, but Kogami and Makishima alone aren't a full story. She brings it all together into something more meaningful than just a rivalry
@@ProfessorViral It stand out in a intellectual sense, but at the same time is very clear to me the love and heart you put in this too. I can see thru your eyes in the video how much this anime touched you (and so it did to me, I should admit). Was beautiful to see this.
I watched psycho pass as a kid and as most kids I still had kind of a black n white preconceptions. I was so expecting the chars to overthrown sigma and all that jazz we are used to, just in the end for them ot go "all that bloodsheed would not be worth it" and I was so fucking puzzled and confused but also kept thinking about it after I was done with the episode until I a few days later I understood. Almost all midia has a moral to teach but I can point out very few who actually taugh me something new, psycho pass is one (promissed neverland is another)
Psycho Pass was the first anime that I can definitely say taught me something. I was older already, so I had some idea of the grey area already, but no series had ever told me to think about society, rather than just telling me something about it. And that I'll always love about it
Makishima reminds me of Ted Kaczynski which I thought was very interesting. Makishima and Kaczynski's philosophies seem so close. Their reasons for the anti tech sentiment differ but there is a lot of crossover in how their 'liberation' was to be realized.
I have a feeling psycho pass is basically just making fun of Japanese society on how almost everyone in them especially among the older populants are basically drones. It's also making fun of Japan's tendency to label everyone as a type a person.
It’s always baffled me when people under-appreciated Akane as a character and undermined her importance to the story. It wouldn’t be the masterpiece that it is without her in it, playing the part that she did. Tbf, it is not uncommon for female characters in anime to lack…depth, but in Akane’s case it can’t be further from the truth. I’ve always looked up to her and her worldviews, just as Kogami did btw, although he still chose a different path for himself.
I've concluded that we're screwed either way, whether we maintain the status quo or not. The status quo hinders change while chaos hinders stability. Guess that's life. Here's the excerpt from my rambling comment somewhere: "It is why slavery was readily accepted in some old civilizations but not with the current civilization we live in now -at least not in its common form. I'd say based on results, Akane is more individualistic (in her personal choices) since it is somewhat skewed towards the current status quo -which means no change or no development. To relate it to current society, I can only view it is that Akane and Makishima were born with privilege (like being born ultra rich: Top 1 percent in society), and both chose different paths. Makishima decided to affect the majority (based on his actions - which both enabled and k*lled/hurt people) while Akane decided to affect the minority (the people she encounters or meet), her actions maintained the status quo, given that the status quo also enabled and k*lled people (literally and figuratively-merely existing but not bring allowed to "live"). I won't go into Kogami cause my head hurts now. Everything is just speculation anyway. We're screwed either way and people will most likely choose to side with a philosophy that would benefit them personally - on the individual level- than what would actually benefit society (a future society so far away that they can't grasp). The cycle of chaos and order continues either way, and the time range for each part of the cycle may extend or shorten through the cycle. So society is screwed and will be screwed."
But is going against the wishes of society *really* the same exercising your own free will in a way that *limits* others? Society can exert all sorts of preferences for the way in which its constituents should behave where the consequences for failing those standards amounts to little more than the violation of an observers sensibilities. Majority rules is not maximal freedom, for homogenized groups often wish to prevent deviant behavior simply for their own psychological comfort. In this way there are many actions that disregard society’s will without limiting the freedom of those within the society.
I didn't look for it yet, but did you did the second season analysis of the Sybil and other aspects of their society? People tend to say it was bad, but I totally disagree, the second season goes WAY deeper into the Sybil system and how corrupted it were, how the scientists whom made it were beyond unethical and "outlaws" themselves, how all of their society is pretty much an illusion made to maintain an collapsed economy still running with societal control, also touched something that the series didn't before, which was the Zeitgeist, the real collective unconscious, the society spirit as Hegel once said, the OVAs goes even further showing how the Sybil went on to became imperialist and even show how it gain power within Japan using the other ministries problems, like they did with the economy as told in the second season, or how they did with the defense as told in the OVA, even so they went further to reach other countries in the intention of taking more power, I still don't get why ppl didn't like it...
Akane raises an interesting point about law being the collective wish for sustained peace, and I like how you expanded it. My issue with her line of thinking is that she seems to suggest that the law is mainly a product of this "wish" and not scripture created by and violently enforced by the Sibyl System and systems like it. Don't topple the system because right now the system is all that's holding society together. So Sibyl continues plodding along crushing the defenseless minority for the sake of the majority. A similar idea is discussed in Book 2 of the Three Body Problem. Humanity realizes that if the only way to survive extinction from an alien threat is to completely enslave it's people for production manpower - then it's better that the human race dies out then and there. There's things worse than death, and they're the atrocities we commit towards our fellow man, and in turn ourselves.
@@rafiuddinariffhan5470 Exactly. People are sacrificed for the apparent "greater good", but in reality that "greater good" is really just a believable narrative to maintain control. The "peace" in Psycho Pass is Sibyl's Peace, and any other system is a threat to that. Funny stuff.
Great video apart from the casual implication that anarchy is rampant destruction rather than simply the reliance on practical effort over social pressure through law. Anarchist societies can have laws and even courts, but citizens are not held to them under penalty of violence. Cooperation is voluntary, as anarchism is a moral philosophy rather than a solely anti-political ideology. Furthermore, just as consequences do not invalidate free will, laws do not invalidate anarchy. Laws do not prevent evil, healthy culture does. Anarchy is THE natural relationship of individuals with free will. The fact that someone will arrest or kill you for any odd reason is not an invalidation of anarchy, but a denial of it. Presuming the authority to rule another's life, whether through immediate violence of latent violence in support of a social system's laws, is fundamentally antithetical to anarchist moral principles which state it's a violation of a natural right to autonomy to use force against a peaceful other. Makishima is an immoral anarchist, but not because he is violent and disrespectful of social order. Rather, he believes that using social order as a pretext to abuse the free will of others is fundamentally evil, and he will commit evil to combat evil so that people can regain freedom of mind rather than a pretentious civil freedom that only allows for socially permissible expressions and actions.
This video is a good look at natural law vs man's law and the necessity of balance. See also: Mark Passio's Natural Law Seminar and Fake-ass Anarchists
Anarchy is not defined as no rules, but no RULERS. People have been engineered to associate an-archy with chaos. I get where you're going though. Meet people where they are.
another great video, though i guess i stand at the opposite side that you do, I lean more toward the lower right of individual will. I am well aware of the cost on an overall scale and the greater lose of my own life, but if I die living my life the way i want to i feel I would die happier than living a life society says i should and being generally unsatisfied and often times repulsed by.
There are many things about society that I dislike. I think while presenting us with many freedoms, they aren't all equal. Some are more costly, and based on our "collective standards" downright impossible. I think the focus on money and possessions does detract from some of the "true" human spirit. And, many other things. But, I guess I'm more like Akane. I see the sparks of change and growth within society, and want to push it to a place I see as better for everyone. I think we would lose so much exiting it, or discarding it. It will probably be personally worse for me, but for now that's the cost of living my life how I want to, in the hopes other can do so later without a high cost
@@ProfessorViral i don't understand the value in equality. people are different, they should be handled differently. as long as they have some say over what they have, it doesn't really matter what they start or end with. people will form their own laws, and will create their own systems to enforce it, and those who choose to be governed by them will flock towards them while leaving others. you can't trade liberty for safety, but you might gain the liberty to create your own safety with the help of others. societies exist for the individuals that make them, so why shouldn't those societies be allowed to fracture down to the individual level? that's my opinion, at least.
Akane cant be asymptomatic because that condition is essentially psychopathy meaning lack of ability to emphasize with suffering of others. Akane is the opposite of that, shes an Empath. The Yin to Sybil's Yang sorta thing.
here's my problem: Slavery was legal, the apartheid was legal, war IS always legal. Legality has nothing to do with the common will, it is about power. Is this also the price to" have a society?" And no, you can't just follow "real laws". The moment the state discovers you disobeying they will crush you.
Agree, the law typically skews toward power (although law typically originates from common will -sometimes it is the common will of the majority and sometimes it is just the common will of a minority) Maintaining the status quo hinders revision of said laws and only maintains the skewed path laws typically take - cause laws are made by skewed humans (Same with sybil-the input is still humans). As tragic as it is, war (chaos -collapse of society) gives way to regain free will simply because of its current nature. It is during times of chaos that new philosophies, new ideas and new morals are established. After chaos is a new kind of order (new laws - based on new common will). It is like a continuous cycle. It is why slavery was readily accepted in some old civilizations but not with the current civilization we live in now -at least not in its common (historical textbook) form. I'd say based on results, Akane is more individualistic (in her personal choices) since it is somewhat skewed towards the current status quo -which means no change or no development. To relate it to current society, I can only view it is that Akane and Makishima were born with privilege (like being born ultra rich: Top 1 percent in society), and both chose different paths. Makishima decided to affect the majority (based on his actions - which both enabled and k*lled/hurt people) while Akane decided to affect the minority (the people she encounters or meet), given that the status quo also enabled and k*lled people (literally and figuratively-merely existing but not being allowed to "live"). I won't go into Kogami cause my head hurts now. Everything is just speculation anyway. We're screwed either way and people will most likely choose to side with a philosophy that would benefit them personally - on the individual level- than what would actually benefit society (a future society so far away that they can't grasp). The cycle of chaos and order continues either way, and the time range for each part of the cycle may extend or shorten through the cycle. So society is screwed and will be screwed.
Psycho pass is good but I wouldn't say it's a pretty revolutionary anime for it's time I don't think so I mean there has been animes before that were probably more underrated and revolutionary
Netherlands: it is in society later good. We limit car traffic and make it less desirable to drive so that we don't have to have massive parking lots preventing people from cycling, because cars kill people and cycling doesn't Germany during the oil crisis: agreed, and it since cars came around 500 children every year started dying. So we will double down on against cars I'm for society myself
So in this context, "society" mostly resembles communism. Would consider myself more of a collectivist rather than an individualist. Though under these circumstances, i'd be advocating individualism. When the government dictates everything you do, earn, say and think. I'd be hardly against that form of totalitarianism. Nothing in nature is "equal". There's always gonna be someone who's better/worse than others. And people who deserve more than others. If you base everything around the bottom of society, that also means no one can get ahead. You end up punishing people who're putting in more effort than others. These rules also never apply to the people enforcing them. It has always ended in disaster, as we can see everytime something like that has been implemented in history.
Ahh, its clear you're thinking solely in concepts of capital gain. Providing for the most destitute regardless of effort does not equate to the most hardworking getting nothing in return except when you think of life revolving around capital such as money. Say for when volunteers (some of the most hardworking people out there) put their life on the line to smuggle asylum seekers out of a dangerous country. They receive negligible to no capital gain, and usually operate within non-profit organisations. Despite receiving no capital gain, they claim they are adequately rewarded in experience, emotional impact and most importantly, a sense of fulfilment and purpose. It's something you can only get by putting in the effort to fulfill your own concept of happiness. Concepts and even implementations of money-less societies have existed. In those societies is it correct to state those who put in effort are punished?? For that you would have to look into what the individual values, and what they are rewarded with even if it is abstract. Now, in terms of people being equal. Nobody is biologically or environmentally equal. People have various genetic illnesses, live in dangerous climates while others don't etc. But that is separate from treating people as equal. To treat them as equal is to understand how someone's conditions and nuances affect their actions and respond appropriately around that. In regards to "history" proving certain concepts ending in disaster (this applies to any concept), you have to remember many biases and factors are at play. For example, the western world heavily demonised communism as an ideology to the point it's blatant propaganda. Not saying communism is good as a whole, but it's clear that there is a lot of misinformation and generalisation. In this aspect, is it correct to say "history", that has been so heavily skewed by your own views, public opinion, manipulated by powers with a direct investment in making you see only one side of the argument, is a viable way to assess if something can't work? This doesn't even account for all the extraneous variables during the time of implementation. Would a concept that failed in the past work now because the conditions are different?? Does the implementation of a concept actually manifest the original intention?? You don't know, so you should stop saying general concepts don't work when you obviously don't fully understand them.
I've come to accept that the internet takes our information, just too many benefits and I don't think it harms my freedom that much. Some things are important to let society handle, so you have the freedom in safety. At the same time we can pretty much choose most paths that we want, almost too much is left to the imagination in my experience and things still seem to be safe.
The problem is who owns big tech and wht they want. That's the scary part. They don't care about us, they see us as cattle. And they will do whatever it takes to keep their power over us. It's not gonna be "beneficial" much longer. If you think something that doesn't align with their narrative, they can cut you out from society and starve you. Already doing that.
This helps me better define libertarianism as i believe in it. Maximizing human freedom without focusing on whats best for society beyond the end of not impeding on the freedoms of others, and not interested in equity. I think it a very human individualist approach, but as you point out to maximize freedom does mean to have laws that keep people safe and enable them to successfuly perform choices like travelling safely, acquiring goods etc.
I am afraid, you are chasing your own tail, metaphorically speaking. That chart is a complete mess based on purely hypothetical constructs without possibility of realization in a world of independent agents and causality. Therefore when generalizing from it, you are committing GIGO into the direction of you pre-conceived biases (your Akane-like idealism). Unfortunately I cannot check your explanation of positioning of Makishima as advertises window does not show. But I can guess and I do not necessarily disagree. But your placing of Kogami after describing the bottom-right corner is completely absurd. That is where the vulgar self-oriented criminals belong. Kogami follows law except where he is the one transcending it in the critical moment if it means saving lives, even at the cost of death or banishment. He has own moral code and will to follow it. He is much more like Makishima without psychopathic streak and more accepting of people who chose to live empty lives and their choice. The actual ideological extremes here are the Sybil and Makishima on the safety vs freedom scale. They represent the promises society seeks. Between Akane and Kogami, it's about willingness or ability to trespass a law (or autority's interpretation of it) in providing safety to society. It's about system's versus individual responsibility. Akane is not some perfect golden standard. Without Kogami, the system would not survive either. They represent the two legs the society stands on.
Why not make analysis video about death note series? You didn't make analysis video about death note series. So, please analysis death note series and make video, because I want to know your thoughts about death note series. And I like your videos, spacialy, those videos which analysis psycho-pass series season 1.
Benito Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile believed that freedom can only be achieved by being subordinate to the state. George Orwell criticized this in 1984.
Freewill as makishima sees it, is just a spoiled immature child aspiration...people shouldn't have the freedom to harm other just to use so called freewill...
That's where I've turned more to Akane's side over his. I think his idea is very important; that we must maintain key aspects of humanity or we'll lose ourselves. But, through his tests he asserts that his idea is true, and walks over other humans because he sees them as less worthwhile. Meanwhile Akane even agrees with him on some points, but recognizes his methods ignore balance or growth
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I've never seen someone talk about Psycho-Pass with so much passion, your videos are incredible man, keep up the good work 🔥🔥
I'm excessively passionate about the series 🤣 but, thank you, I'll do my best!
To KaylAguas' review from anilist:
"I realized that balancing your needs and the society's needs to be more important than anything else. Being too self-involved is not healthy and you grow distant from people, being too involved in society can cause you to lose your identity and meaning on why you live. Balance in my opinion is what makes a great person, too many or too little of anything can negatively affect oneself. Too little or too much freedom has detrimental effects on people."
Very true. We have to look at both ourselves, and everything around us, and decided if we feel it's balanced. Is working this job I hate worth the income it provides? Society says it must be that way, but what if it destroys the individual, making them worthless anyway? It's a balancing act that can sadly take a lifetime to perfect
@@ProfessorViral sibyl system maybe just a technlogical singularity
But what if I want to be distant from society in the first place for personal reasons like having different held values and beliefs and moralitys?
Thought-provoking. This analysis led me to discover depths to Psycho-Pass I wasn’t conscious of prior. Thank you for your hard work!
Thank you, I'm happy to hear that : D
Your video was so good, man! The only thing I got to say is that you might mistake anarchism (a system in which the decisions are taken by the population instead of an elite) with anomism (the abscence of laws and system). The two ideologies are often mistaken, but are really different in essence. Kougami himself answers to professor Saiga that anarchism is a denial of governing and authority, but is different from confusion and disorder. We could even argue that Makishima is more of an anomist than an anarchist, as he's taking out the power pyramid in entirety instead of trying to lower it nearer to all individuals.
Fair point; I appreciate the feedback! I'll keep that distinction in mind for future videos!
Very thought provoking and in depth. This should be up in the millions in terms of views, more people should see this, it definitely deserves the attention.
Thank you, it means a lot to hear that : ) But honestly, I'm just happy I get to share these thoughts to as wide of an audience as I already do!
I love dystopian fiction because of the variety they all have in the way they deal with problems and sometimes they form a mirror to our society and makes us question why things are the way they are. This was an awesome video covering one of my favourite aspects of the anime, thank you!
Thank you for watching, and for the nice comment! My favorite part of Psycho-Pass is for sure the way it's made me question and ponder my own reality, compared to the situation of 2112 Japan where things are exaggerated, and put those kinds of feelings front and center. It pins down those specific ideas and wraps them into everything, and it's downright amazing!
You've changed my mind on Akane Tsunemori. I never understood why she didn't shoot and kill Makishima, and I sided and rooted for Kogami for killing him, after all the atrocious things that the man had caused for society. But when you said that she didn't kill him because the act of killing him would incentivize other people to do the same, threatening society's safety as well as hers, which would destabilize the peace of the greater good of humanity, I totally understood her action! You just gave me a completely different view to her, and I'm so happy about that. I could tell in your final thoughts that you really enjoyed this anime, and I'm glad to have stumbled upon this video!
You deserve more views and likes! Your analysis is thorough and in-depth, Psycho-Pass is a gem capable of inducing critical thinking about various aspects of society in anyone who watches it.
Your deep dives deserve more views. Think you do a great job taking thought provoking anime and digging into them. Love Psycho-Pass.
Thank you, I'm always just happy to have what I do though : D
Also want to drop by that I love your energy in this vid and I can feel the passion and it made for an awesome experience!!!
Thank you, I'm glad it was : D
thank u for this! I always feel so enlightened whenever I watch your psycho pass videos
Thank you! It really does mean a lot to hear kind words like that : )
I never thought about it like that! I will probably watch that video again to grasp all of your points. Thank you for your analysis!
No problem, thanks for watching!
This was really interesting! I watched Psycho-Pass from your recommendation and I'm so glad I did I absolutely loved it! Wanted to say thank you! I really liked Akane's philosophy watching through S1 and S2; but this helped me visualize why. I couldn't quite put my finger on it before lol.
That's part of why I make these videos, so I'm happy it was able to do that for you. Thanks for the kind words : )
You are right about Akane to most degree. Thing is it has been confirmed that she was born asymptomatic. Her mind naturally prevent her from going to extreme. There are real life cases like that. People with natural talent to always be composed. She was never capable of acting on revenge
Confirmed where yo? Wasn't in season 2. Is there another season?
@@neryxeldra5093 there's a season 3 and a few movies or specials (?) But I don't remember her being confirmed asymptomatic
this isn't real, akane has always acted according to what's the best for society, that's why her numbers don't raise
S2 ending demonstrably proves that she's not criminally asymptomatic
@@knowledgeacquirer2931Can you remind how again? It's been a minute since I've seen it. Is this in the scene where her and Kamui are facing sybil?
Never did I thought I'd come across someone else whom Psycho Pass resonated so much on our modern day. My dude, that was sincerely, enjoyable to the fullest! Thank you!
Hey, thank you for the kind words! I'm always happy to spread some more Psycho-Pass love!
That part of Akane's speech reminded me of something my dad said to me as a kid in Nigeria: "Law was created for man, not man created for law"
I love your videos about Psycho-pass! Thank you very much for your work!
Hey, it's no problem! I'm glad you've enjoyed the videos : D
I like the analogy you used with the roads people should be able to choose between their individual liberties or the safeties that society offers. The problem with sibyl is the fact that only a few get to actually make that choice while for mostly everyone else the choice is made for them.. and not even all of them get to enjoy it’s benefit.
Kagari’s entire character is testament to the fact that a perfect system that protects everyone will not exist.
I think it’s so easy for people like you and i to say they would give up their freedoms for a safer society but do you think Kagari would?
I think it's more about what freedoms we would give up for safety, since some must be discarded for any safety. I believe we have a good template in many modern societies, but the specifics are unrefined. Kagari didn't want to give up nearly all of his freedoms for safety, but that's not to say he wouldn't give up some of them
@@ProfessorViral Yes, I agree that the concept that one will have to sacrifice certain individual liberties for a society to function, unfortunately based on how sibyl works, progression and change is slow, too slow. It judges even young children before they can truly develop themselves.
Basically, sorting people a normal, criminal etc. maintans the status quo and negotiating with sibyl as Akane had done, simply extends the suffering of those who didn't have a choice.
Sibyl, based on how it operates, is a collection of outliers. The range is defined on what points those outliers are on a graph-just to visualize- and Akane falls within the scope (the area in between those predetermined points) that is why sibyl didn't integrate Akane into the system , but wanted Makishima.
With the choices afforded to Akane by the collective (society and sibyl) she can make choices, deductions and conclusions similar to what the system does. The difference between Sibyl and Akane, is that Akane does consider her feeling and morals -which are predetermined by the environment- while Sibyl uses the same method, only that in order to maintain 'fairness', emotion isn't included in the equation.
Sibyl is limited to its 'input' (spoilers) while Akane, as a human is limited to what she sees and experiences.
Spoiler alert below
Since Sibyl places a high priority in integrating minds wired differently (outliers) from its current selection, to expand the probabilities and the scope of the compromise it does.
It does not and probably will not consider a 'normal' person's viewpoint -or a passing idea or thought that may be good for society, a good change - for a very long time up until a certain outlier gets integrated and that 'average' person's thinking/that passing thought gets within sibyl's scope through integration of an outlying individual.
An outlier meaning those whose perspective is out of the bounds of the collective society, like Makishima.
Akane is somewhat not fully outside the scope of the collective- just a bit out of the bounds after discovering society's flaws and Sibyl's secret- simply due the amount of choices sibyl's society afforded her, choices that weren't given to those like Kogari, -as a child- already condemned to a path before they could fully develop- mature.
I'd like to see the differences it made from their experiences, both of them operating within the collective (Akane vs Kogari), of "The Damned vs. The Revered" -just to be dramatic, of one given privilege vs. one that didn't have a choice, both from the start.
Unfortunately, Kogari's perspective wasn't explored that much before they killed him off, sibyl killed him unlike Akane, since sibyl knows there is no chance he'd let a system which flaws' deprived him of the choices he could've had as a child. The only thing that made him not go truly against the system was the belief that is the 'common good', and discovering sibyl, and if given the chance to comprehend how it works, he and a lot of other regular people, would not let or accept 'something flawed', marking them as a 'flaw'.
Just started watching this anime yesterday. I'm relatively new to anime and it's really deep. It just proves one thing I already knew: Deontology 👍 is better than utilitarianism 💩
Excellent video. This analysis is great, it highlights and explores aspects I failed to dig deeper into.
Thank you, I'm happy I was able to do so!
I can feel your passion for the subject but it's just above my head. I can't truly internalize it the way you seem to have. I wish you a good day and thank you for making me think.
No problem, thank you for the comment and kind words : )
This is the reason I choose to be Kogami and not anyone else. The circumstances I was brought up under showed me only one thing to me in life:
"So you sow,shall you reap" &
"Nobody is going to cater to your needs, and you're not living for others, you're living for yourself."
The graph was honestly pretty confusing but understandable and concise.
Ever thought about it that even Psycho-Pass 2 touched this subject in a different manner? Kamui was more on the top right corner from Akane but still lesser than Makishima. The message WC also asks us what we are, what colour are you, what kind of person are you and maybe also that if you even know your place on which part of society you're contributing to? If I refer the graph you've made, it asks Sybil, Akane and all others what part of the graph they're in. Noticed that?
That was such a great breakdown between the 3 way dynamic of characters. Akane seems to get a lot of hate imo. Without her the story loses a whole dimension.
Hard agree; at first it's easy to overlook her, but Kogami and Makishima alone aren't a full story. She brings it all together into something more meaningful than just a rivalry
This video was profoundly well craft. Congratulations ProfessorViral, not every day we have a video like this.
Thank you, I'm glad it was stand out : )
@@ProfessorViral It stand out in a intellectual sense, but at the same time is very clear to me the love and heart you put in this too. I can see thru your eyes in the video how much this anime touched you (and so it did to me, I should admit). Was beautiful to see this.
Your videos really deserve more views, this was really interesting!
Thank you! This one is a personal favorite of mine, so I'm glad you enjoyed!
I watched psycho pass as a kid and as most kids I still had kind of a black n white preconceptions.
I was so expecting the chars to overthrown sigma and all that jazz we are used to, just in the end for them ot go "all that bloodsheed would not be worth it" and I was so fucking puzzled and confused but also kept thinking about it after I was done with the episode until I a few days later I understood. Almost all midia has a moral to teach but I can point out very few who actually taugh me something new, psycho pass is one (promissed neverland is another)
Psycho Pass was the first anime that I can definitely say taught me something. I was older already, so I had some idea of the grey area already, but no series had ever told me to think about society, rather than just telling me something about it. And that I'll always love about it
It took me the longest amount of time to realize your room was animated
at 13:20 lets just say Akane is .... an Enlightened Centrist... 😃 i will show myself out
this is by far the best video i seen so far made by you 👍 keep it up i hope your channel grows bigger
Thank you! This one is one of my favorite videos I've ever produced, so I'm glad others like it as well!
Makishima reminds me of Ted Kaczynski which I thought was very interesting. Makishima and Kaczynski's philosophies seem so close. Their reasons for the anti tech sentiment differ but there is a lot of crossover in how their 'liberation' was to be realized.
I have a feeling psycho pass is basically just making fun of Japanese society on how almost everyone in them especially among the older populants are basically drones. It's also making fun of Japan's tendency to label everyone as a type a person.
It’s always baffled me when people under-appreciated Akane as a character and undermined her importance to the story. It wouldn’t be the masterpiece that it is without her in it, playing the part that she did.
Tbf, it is not uncommon for female characters in anime to lack…depth, but in Akane’s case it can’t be further from the truth. I’ve always looked up to her and her worldviews, just as Kogami did btw, although he still chose a different path for himself.
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she's just another useless female anime character lol nothing new
I've concluded that we're screwed either way, whether we maintain the status quo or not.
The status quo hinders change while chaos hinders stability.
Guess that's life.
Here's the excerpt from my rambling comment somewhere:
"It is why slavery was readily accepted in some old civilizations but not with the current civilization we live in now -at least not in its common form.
I'd say based on results, Akane is more individualistic (in her personal choices) since it is somewhat skewed towards the current status quo -which means no change or no development.
To relate it to current society, I can only view it is that Akane and Makishima were born with privilege (like being born ultra rich: Top 1 percent in society), and both chose different paths.
Makishima decided to affect the majority (based on his actions - which both enabled and k*lled/hurt people) while Akane decided to affect the minority (the people she encounters or meet), her actions maintained the status quo, given that the status quo also enabled and k*lled people (literally and figuratively-merely existing but not bring allowed to "live").
I won't go into Kogami cause my head hurts now. Everything is just speculation anyway.
We're screwed either way and people will most likely choose to side with a philosophy that would benefit them personally - on the individual level- than what would actually benefit society (a future society so far away that they can't grasp).
The cycle of chaos and order continues either way, and the time range for each part of the cycle may extend or shorten through the cycle. So society is screwed and will be screwed."
So Akane is really the queen of the hole anime, my god it's so true, Akane is the real equilibria
She very much so is; it's something often overshadowed by the amazing rivalry, but without her it's nowhere near as meaningful
Man I agonized on it too hard I am in mental turmoil.
Me writing every Psycho-Pass video lol
But is going against the wishes of society *really* the same exercising your own free will in a way that *limits* others?
Society can exert all sorts of preferences for the way in which its constituents should behave where the consequences for failing those standards amounts to little more than the violation of an observers sensibilities.
Majority rules is not maximal freedom, for homogenized groups often wish to prevent deviant behavior simply for their own psychological comfort.
In this way there are many actions that disregard society’s will without limiting the freedom of those within the society.
Good point and good over all video, but I think I would move the dot lower down, When and where can give people more free will we should always do so.
Fair, it's only though a compromise of every reasonable viewpoint that we reach the society for everyone
I didn't look for it yet, but did you did the second season analysis of the Sybil and other aspects of their society? People tend to say it was bad, but I totally disagree, the second season goes WAY deeper into the Sybil system and how corrupted it were, how the scientists whom made it were beyond unethical and "outlaws" themselves, how all of their society is pretty much an illusion made to maintain an collapsed economy still running with societal control, also touched something that the series didn't before, which was the Zeitgeist, the real collective unconscious, the society spirit as Hegel once said, the OVAs goes even further showing how the Sybil went on to became imperialist and even show how it gain power within Japan using the other ministries problems, like they did with the economy as told in the second season, or how they did with the defense as told in the OVA, even so they went further to reach other countries in the intention of taking more power, I still don't get why ppl didn't like it...
Ngl we are close approaching the year Psycho pass and is closer to it's future than before
Also Japan apparently has a tendency to label people as types. And you can see that in this anime
Akane raises an interesting point about law being the collective wish for sustained peace, and I like how you expanded it. My issue with her line of thinking is that she seems to suggest that the law is mainly a product of this "wish" and not scripture created by and violently enforced by the Sibyl System and systems like it.
Don't topple the system because right now the system is all that's holding society together. So Sibyl continues plodding along crushing the defenseless minority for the sake of the majority.
A similar idea is discussed in Book 2 of the Three Body Problem. Humanity realizes that if the only way to survive extinction from an alien threat is to completely enslave it's people for production manpower - then it's better that the human race dies out then and there. There's things worse than death, and they're the atrocities we commit towards our fellow man, and in turn ourselves.
Wait how is destroying defenseless minority gonna keep majority safe?
@@rafiuddinariffhan5470 Exactly. People are sacrificed for the apparent "greater good", but in reality that "greater good" is really just a believable narrative to maintain control. The "peace" in Psycho Pass is Sibyl's Peace, and any other system is a threat to that. Funny stuff.
Great video apart from the casual implication that anarchy is rampant destruction rather than simply the reliance on practical effort over social pressure through law. Anarchist societies can have laws and even courts, but citizens are not held to them under penalty of violence. Cooperation is voluntary, as anarchism is a moral philosophy rather than a solely anti-political ideology. Furthermore, just as consequences do not invalidate free will, laws do not invalidate anarchy. Laws do not prevent evil, healthy culture does.
Anarchy is THE natural relationship of individuals with free will. The fact that someone will arrest or kill you for any odd reason is not an invalidation of anarchy, but a denial of it. Presuming the authority to rule another's life, whether through immediate violence of latent violence in support of a social system's laws, is fundamentally antithetical to anarchist moral principles which state it's a violation of a natural right to autonomy to use force against a peaceful other. Makishima is an immoral anarchist, but not because he is violent and disrespectful of social order. Rather, he believes that using social order as a pretext to abuse the free will of others is fundamentally evil, and he will commit evil to combat evil so that people can regain freedom of mind rather than a pretentious civil freedom that only allows for socially permissible expressions and actions.
This video is a good look at natural law vs man's law and the necessity of balance.
See also: Mark Passio's Natural Law Seminar and Fake-ass Anarchists
Everything in moderation including moderation which is hard to follow becuz I don't know which should be moderate and which shouldn't be
Anarchy is not defined as no rules, but no RULERS. People have been engineered to associate an-archy with chaos. I get where you're going though. Meet people where they are.
another great video, though i guess i stand at the opposite side that you do, I lean more toward the lower right of individual will. I am well aware of the cost on an overall scale and the greater lose of my own life, but if I die living my life the way i want to i feel I would die happier than living a life society says i should and being generally unsatisfied and often times repulsed by.
There are many things about society that I dislike. I think while presenting us with many freedoms, they aren't all equal. Some are more costly, and based on our "collective standards" downright impossible. I think the focus on money and possessions does detract from some of the "true" human spirit. And, many other things. But, I guess I'm more like Akane. I see the sparks of change and growth within society, and want to push it to a place I see as better for everyone. I think we would lose so much exiting it, or discarding it. It will probably be personally worse for me, but for now that's the cost of living my life how I want to, in the hopes other can do so later without a high cost
@@ProfessorViral i don't understand the value in equality. people are different, they should be handled differently. as long as they have some say over what they have, it doesn't really matter what they start or end with. people will form their own laws, and will create their own systems to enforce it, and those who choose to be governed by them will flock towards them while leaving others. you can't trade liberty for safety, but you might gain the liberty to create your own safety with the help of others. societies exist for the individuals that make them, so why shouldn't those societies be allowed to fracture down to the individual level? that's my opinion, at least.
Good vid fam
Thanks!
Akane cant be asymptomatic because that condition is essentially psychopathy meaning lack of ability to emphasize with suffering of others. Akane is the opposite of that, shes an Empath. The Yin to Sybil's Yang sorta thing.
here's my problem: Slavery was legal, the apartheid was legal, war IS always legal. Legality has nothing to do with the common will, it is about power. Is this also the price to" have a society?"
And no, you can't just follow "real laws". The moment the state discovers you disobeying they will crush you.
law of physics is a literal slavery anway
Agree, the law typically skews toward power (although law typically originates from common will -sometimes it is the common will of the majority and sometimes it is just the common will of a minority)
Maintaining the status quo hinders revision of said laws and only maintains the skewed path laws typically take - cause laws are made by skewed humans (Same with sybil-the input is still humans).
As tragic as it is, war (chaos -collapse of society) gives way to regain free will simply because of its current nature. It is during times of chaos that new philosophies, new ideas and new morals are established. After chaos is a new kind of order (new laws - based on new common will). It is like a continuous cycle.
It is why slavery was readily accepted in some old civilizations but not with the current civilization we live in now -at least not in its common (historical textbook) form.
I'd say based on results, Akane is more individualistic (in her personal choices) since it is somewhat skewed towards the current status quo -which means no change or no development.
To relate it to current society, I can only view it is that Akane and Makishima were born with privilege (like being born ultra rich: Top 1 percent in society), and both chose different paths. Makishima decided to affect the majority (based on his actions - which both enabled and k*lled/hurt people) while Akane decided to affect the minority (the people she encounters or meet), given that the status quo also enabled and k*lled people (literally and figuratively-merely existing but not being allowed to "live").
I won't go into Kogami cause my head hurts now. Everything is just speculation anyway.
We're screwed either way and people will most likely choose to side with a philosophy that would benefit them personally - on the individual level- than what would actually benefit society (a future society so far away that they can't grasp).
The cycle of chaos and order continues either way, and the time range for each part of the cycle may extend or shorten through the cycle. So society is screwed and will be screwed.
With AI this is very important to consider in our future.
Psycho pass is good but I wouldn't say it's a pretty revolutionary anime for it's time I don't think so I mean there has been animes before that were probably more underrated and revolutionary
I can't fully understand. But I really love it!
I'm not always the best at explaining concepts fully, so that's likely on me. I'm glad you still enjoyed the video though : )
Psycho Pass is a great anime, even if rather disturbing. The recent movie was very good.
Netherlands: it is in society later good. We limit car traffic and make it less desirable to drive so that we don't have to have massive parking lots preventing people from cycling, because cars kill people and cycling doesn't
Germany during the oil crisis: agreed, and it since cars came around 500 children every year started dying. So we will double down on against cars
I'm for society myself
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The protector
The chaos
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Weird question but using the graphic of this video , where would you place Kiritsugu from Fate Zero but also Lelouch/Suzaku from Code Geass ?
definitely near the sybil system due to his philosophy of kill 1 to save 10, 10 for a 100
So in this context, "society" mostly resembles communism. Would consider myself more of a collectivist rather than an individualist. Though under these circumstances, i'd be advocating individualism. When the government dictates everything you do, earn, say and think. I'd be hardly against that form of totalitarianism. Nothing in nature is "equal". There's always gonna be someone who's better/worse than others. And people who deserve more than others. If you base everything around the bottom of society, that also means no one can get ahead. You end up punishing people who're putting in more effort than others. These rules also never apply to the people enforcing them. It has always ended in disaster, as we can see everytime something like that has been implemented in history.
Ahh, its clear you're thinking solely in concepts of capital gain. Providing for the most destitute regardless of effort does not equate to the most hardworking getting nothing in return except when you think of life revolving around capital such as money.
Say for when volunteers (some of the most hardworking people out there) put their life on the line to smuggle asylum seekers out of a dangerous country. They receive negligible to no capital gain, and usually operate within non-profit organisations. Despite receiving no capital gain, they claim they are adequately rewarded in experience, emotional impact and most importantly, a sense of fulfilment and purpose. It's something you can only get by putting in the effort to fulfill your own concept of happiness.
Concepts and even implementations of money-less societies have existed. In those societies is it correct to state those who put in effort are punished?? For that you would have to look into what the individual values, and what they are rewarded with even if it is abstract.
Now, in terms of people being equal. Nobody is biologically or environmentally equal. People have various genetic illnesses, live in dangerous climates while others don't etc. But that is separate from treating people as equal. To treat them as equal is to understand how someone's conditions and nuances affect their actions and respond appropriately around that.
In regards to "history" proving certain concepts ending in disaster (this applies to any concept), you have to remember many biases and factors are at play. For example, the western world heavily demonised communism as an ideology to the point it's blatant propaganda. Not saying communism is good as a whole, but it's clear that there is a lot of misinformation and generalisation. In this aspect, is it correct to say "history", that has been so heavily skewed by your own views, public opinion, manipulated by powers with a direct investment in making you see only one side of the argument, is a viable way to assess if something can't work?
This doesn't even account for all the extraneous variables during the time of implementation.
Would a concept that failed in the past work now because the conditions are different??
Does the implementation of a concept actually manifest the original intention??
You don't know, so you should stop saying general concepts don't work when you obviously don't fully understand them.
I've come to accept that the internet takes our information, just too many benefits and I don't think it harms my freedom that much. Some things are important to let society handle, so you have the freedom in safety. At the same time we can pretty much choose most paths that we want, almost too much is left to the imagination in my experience and things still seem to be safe.
The problem is who owns big tech and wht they want. That's the scary part. They don't care about us, they see us as cattle. And they will do whatever it takes to keep their power over us. It's not gonna be "beneficial" much longer. If you think something that doesn't align with their narrative, they can cut you out from society and starve you. Already doing that.
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This helps me better define libertarianism as i believe in it. Maximizing human freedom without focusing on whats best for society beyond the end of not impeding on the freedoms of others, and not interested in equity. I think it a very human individualist approach, but as you point out to maximize freedom does mean to have laws that keep people safe and enable them to successfuly perform choices like travelling safely, acquiring goods etc.
So i probably lay a bit south and east of your position
@@Thezedword12 drone are cool thing but maybe scary patrolling at massive city
I think Akane is criminally Asymptomatic
I am afraid, you are chasing your own tail, metaphorically speaking. That chart is a complete mess based on purely hypothetical constructs without possibility of realization in a world of independent agents and causality. Therefore when generalizing from it, you are committing GIGO into the direction of you pre-conceived biases (your Akane-like idealism).
Unfortunately I cannot check your explanation of positioning of Makishima as advertises window does not show. But I can guess and I do not necessarily disagree.
But your placing of Kogami after describing the bottom-right corner is completely absurd. That is where the vulgar self-oriented criminals belong.
Kogami follows law except where he is the one transcending it in the critical moment if it means saving lives, even at the cost of death or banishment. He has own moral code and will to follow it.
He is much more like Makishima without psychopathic streak and more accepting of people who chose to live empty lives and their choice.
The actual ideological extremes here are the Sybil and Makishima on the safety vs freedom scale. They represent the promises society seeks.
Between Akane and Kogami, it's about willingness or ability to trespass a law (or autority's interpretation of it) in providing safety to society. It's about system's versus individual responsibility.
Akane is not some perfect golden standard. Without Kogami, the system would not survive either. They represent the two legs the society stands on.
Why not make analysis video about death note series? You didn't make analysis video about death note series. So, please analysis death note series and make video, because I want to know your thoughts about death note series. And I like your videos, spacialy, those videos which analysis psycho-pass series season 1.
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@@deavin4293 This
There’s only so much chains us human can take off before life becomes a survival game,
That's the balancing act of society, go too far one way and it's barbarism
This is simply not true. Life was way more peaceful before states. This is just propaganda to make you believe you need the chains.
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Benito Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile believed that freedom can only be achieved by being subordinate to the state. George Orwell criticized this in 1984.
Akane is the representation of a true God or Jesus figure.
Freewill as makishima sees it, is just a spoiled immature child aspiration...people shouldn't have the freedom to harm other just to use so called freewill...
That's where I've turned more to Akane's side over his. I think his idea is very important; that we must maintain key aspects of humanity or we'll lose ourselves. But, through his tests he asserts that his idea is true, and walks over other humans because he sees them as less worthwhile. Meanwhile Akane even agrees with him on some points, but recognizes his methods ignore balance or growth
here's the thing: Killing someone means acting against their free will. So, this is a contradiction.
Those racists need to watch Psycho-pass and then this video.
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